November 23, 2025 • 8 mins
Jon Pemberton reflects on his year as a Nuffield Scholarship recipient.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
John Peabot and farms at means he's fairy and joins
us this afternoon and the Sergeant Dan farming round up
of course, sanks to Sergeant Dan stock food here and
Gord John O, good afternoon, how saints.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, good endings. Have your weekend?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Had a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Actually we went and cut out a heaver of Christmas
shopping Saturday morning.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Did in the afternoon, I went.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
To watch Kelley play a bit of cracket down there
and obviously with Koy Kulley and yesterday it was pretty cool.
Went out there, helped to mate with some weaning, and
the young fellow came out there and yeah, went home
and I was pretty much just coughing up dried up
sheep dung for the next five hours.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
But that's just what you do. It was good fun.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Reminding the old days, mate, Oh.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
It does absolutely. But look, you talk about technology.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Off the cuff, and oh man, the way hand piece
evolution has come around, especially from the days of having
a big digging plant. You've got a number eight wire
strung up and just dragging it along, and you've got
cords and you might have bolshy twodies or something dragged
the down troube and drag you the length of the race,
but not anymore. You just got a listy empowered hand piece.
Just have it in your pocket and just go through
(01:15):
the mob and didn't and dagg as you please. It
was revolutionary.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Yeah, yeah, I've just recently we've got a heap of cheap,
cheap feelings for titlets and the only fences on a
on a new property and it's got four or five
k's a sheep being eaving to do.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Fencing.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
I find is quite I quite enjoy it. And but no, Milwaukee,
you've got a got a quite a cool week contraption
of just an electric paired staple gun. That's sort of
been my early Christmas present.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
It's been fantastic yourself.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
How things been. We haven't spoken for a while and
quite a bit as occurred.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, so I managed to get back. I was on
my GP. It was supposed to be a five week
truck and.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
That got scuffled when we got to Italy with the
storm in south and just resources getting stretched a bit
hard at home. So sort of made it last minute,
called a hop on a planet. So there's femine rubbish
coming the following week.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
So that was sort of the clinch and the decision
really shot home.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Two weeks at home, got caught up on things, and
then I had a messy away and have a week
in Victoria, Australia with the meatback up the crew. That
was your last week of travel. It was really good.
I've never done Australia before and just really enjoyed the
business we've visited and just the diversification of Victoria. Really
I was very surprised, you know, it was quite random
(02:37):
seeing vineyards in the corner of Sarah cropping farms and
there was olive grows and a lot of right through
to market access from those farmers. They weren't just selling
commodities went through JBS. One of the milling plants are
processing north of two hundred thousand a year of feed.
(02:58):
A lot of that's going into the the pigs and
chickens and that was fascinating too. A lot of peg
farms help me now under a very sort of being
managed under the Bawler system that we have in zeal And,
where the process is like JBS owns the feet owns
the pegs, the farmer owns the infrastructure and the farmer
(03:19):
manages it.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
While that line of finishing.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Those waners happens, and I thought, there, it's actually a
quite interesting model to be run. And I guess probably
the takeaway as I saw was the scale of arable
over there. Family succession want to be a challenge. I
lot to us keep building the businesses rather than making
sure that there were ring fencing properties as they went.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
They just sort of kept building on mass. But also
a lot of people just.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Wanting to come home and drive the tractor with audosteer
and all the toys. No one was actually willing to
roll up their sleeves and get some pig sure or
cashit on the elbows because that's where I saw the
opportunity for young farmers was to get back into the
livestock game. That's where the return seemed to be, but
just didn't seem to They were saying they weren't making
(04:10):
two They were sort of battling with some of the profits.
But maybe those haven't battled enough yet to shift that
that thinking.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
So it's a mindset with the younger people as such.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I think so yeah, I think I think there's a
huge opportunity for the cropping farmer over bed and the
great livestock system within his farm gate. You know that
the price of fertilizing inputs, they kept saying, was what
was making things tough. Well, if they had the livestock
system with inside the gate that their feed could go
directly into, then that they sort of create the loof
of nutrients, wouldn't they. So yeah, I just yeah, huge
(04:42):
opportunity over that's for sure. But you know, there was
certainly some innovation happening. Most guys had a large shed
on their farm and they spent half their time building
stuff and adapting stuff rather than going and buying especialized
bit of equipment.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
So it was.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yeah, it did kind of remind me of what we
would have done maybe thirty years ago in New Zealand
before we had access to European markets for that gear
a bit cheaper what we have now. But there's still
pretty cool stuff coming out and seeing what they were
achieving in that space.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
With all this travel, you must be sick of the
side of airports.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Yeah. I threw the passport and the drawer the other
day and I think, yeah, it'll be at least six
months before that comes out again, if not a year.
Just that you just learned to tune out like, it's
surprising how well you can adapt, Like when they came
back from Italy. You know, I was sort of went
to bed at eight o'clock one night and got up
back up at four the next and didn't really suffer
(05:36):
from the too much from the jet leg And yeah,
it's amazing condition your south to all those flights and
not affect you too much.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
So that pretty much concludes your nothing, your commitments.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yeah, so that's all my travel done, and now I'm
just going to sit down a knuckle out a solid
report at the end and that what's included that is
a fifty minute presentation at the by an your Nuffield
conference of the Cargo happening end of February coming so
(06:10):
for the big months between field Day's Lamb Day and
that conference happening. So it'll be quite cool get to
host a few Nowfield friends down in the cargo while
that's all happening at the end of February, So it'd
be great.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So would you recommend people going for the Noffield Scholarship
as such, Johno, based on.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Your yet, Yeah, absolutely. I think anyone that is looking
for is inquisitive and looking for answers and thinks that
they might have a curly one that no one's really
looked at. Absolutely put your hand up for the twenty
twenty seven round. And even even if that feels like that,
(06:49):
it's a too big a leafing commitment. Just looking to
the Raw Leaders programs, I've got the Barely Chain Tour
which happens in start of March from memory, sorry Jenuy
actually in the January, and that that goes through the
Kiwi Fruit Apple's red meat dairy sectors of New Zealand
(07:10):
from the farm.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
To the consumer.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
That's run the North Island over over a week to
nine days. Then itself is a really great place to
connect with people. But it's a full on the long days,
but you get so much out of it and it
really helped me with my approach and enough who I
was traveling. But yeah, the Ray Leaders program. If people
would just want to see how they can grind and develop,
(07:34):
just look into His zeal And Rule Leaders and there's
a number of different programs there to help people with
the growth their business and personal growth.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Good on you, John, I always appreciated your time on
the muster. This is the last time we chat for
twenty twenty five dear or say it so you and
the family enjoy the festive season and we'll chat in
twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah mate, myke Bum and Tiana this summer.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Cheers, John Pemberton, thanks for Sage and dan Stock Foods
based here in Gore. Eric Roy is up next in
the political segment for a Monday afternoon
John Peabot and farms at means he's fairy and joins
us this afternoon and the Sergeant Dan farming round up
of course, sanks to Sergeant Dan stock food here and
Gord John O, good afternoon, how saints.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, good endings. Have your weekend?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Had a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Actually we went and cut out a heaver of Christmas
shopping Saturday morning.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Did in the afternoon, I went.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
To watch Kelley play a bit of cracket down there
and obviously with Koy Kulley and yesterday it was pretty cool.
Went out there, helped to mate with some weaning, and
the young fellow came out there and yeah, went home
and I was pretty much just coughing up dried up
sheep dung for the next five hours.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
But that's just what you do. It was good fun.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Reminding the old days, mate, Oh.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
It does absolutely. But look, you talk about technology.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Off the cuff, and oh man, the way hand piece
evolution has come around, especially from the days of having
a big digging plant. You've got a number eight wire
strung up and just dragging it along, and you've got
cords and you might have bolshy twodies or something dragged
the down troube and drag you the length of the race,
but not anymore. You just got a listy empowered hand piece.
Just have it in your pocket and just go through
(01:15):
the mob and didn't and dagg as you please. It
was revolutionary.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Yeah, yeah, I've just recently we've got a heap of cheap,
cheap feelings for titlets and the only fences on a
on a new property and it's got four or five
k's a sheep being eaving to do.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Fencing.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
I find is quite I quite enjoy it. And but no, Milwaukee,
you've got a got a quite a cool week contraption
of just an electric paired staple gun. That's sort of
been my early Christmas present.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
It's been fantastic yourself.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
How things been. We haven't spoken for a while and
quite a bit as occurred.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, so I managed to get back. I was on
my GP. It was supposed to be a five week
truck and.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
That got scuffled when we got to Italy with the
storm in south and just resources getting stretched a bit
hard at home. So sort of made it last minute,
called a hop on a planet. So there's femine rubbish
coming the following week.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
So that was sort of the clinch and the decision
really shot home.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Two weeks at home, got caught up on things, and
then I had a messy away and have a week
in Victoria, Australia with the meatback up the crew. That
was your last week of travel. It was really good.
I've never done Australia before and just really enjoyed the
business we've visited and just the diversification of Victoria. Really
I was very surprised, you know, it was quite random
(02:37):
seeing vineyards in the corner of Sarah cropping farms and
there was olive grows and a lot of right through
to market access from those farmers. They weren't just selling
commodities went through JBS. One of the milling plants are
processing north of two hundred thousand a year of feed.
(02:58):
A lot of that's going into the the pigs and
chickens and that was fascinating too. A lot of peg
farms help me now under a very sort of being
managed under the Bawler system that we have in zeal And,
where the process is like JBS owns the feet owns
the pegs, the farmer owns the infrastructure and the farmer
(03:19):
manages it.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
While that line of finishing.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Those waners happens, and I thought, there, it's actually a
quite interesting model to be run. And I guess probably
the takeaway as I saw was the scale of arable
over there. Family succession want to be a challenge. I
lot to us keep building the businesses rather than making
sure that there were ring fencing properties as they went.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
They just sort of kept building on mass. But also
a lot of people just.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Wanting to come home and drive the tractor with audosteer
and all the toys. No one was actually willing to
roll up their sleeves and get some pig sure or
cashit on the elbows because that's where I saw the
opportunity for young farmers was to get back into the
livestock game. That's where the return seemed to be, but
just didn't seem to They were saying they weren't making
(04:10):
two They were sort of battling with some of the profits.
But maybe those haven't battled enough yet to shift that
that thinking.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
So it's a mindset with the younger people as such.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I think so yeah, I think I think there's a
huge opportunity for the cropping farmer over bed and the
great livestock system within his farm gate. You know that
the price of fertilizing inputs, they kept saying, was what
was making things tough. Well, if they had the livestock
system with inside the gate that their feed could go
directly into, then that they sort of create the loof
of nutrients, wouldn't they. So yeah, I just yeah, huge
(04:42):
opportunity over that's for sure. But you know, there was
certainly some innovation happening. Most guys had a large shed
on their farm and they spent half their time building
stuff and adapting stuff rather than going and buying especialized
bit of equipment.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
So it was.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yeah, it did kind of remind me of what we
would have done maybe thirty years ago in New Zealand
before we had access to European markets for that gear
a bit cheaper what we have now. But there's still
pretty cool stuff coming out and seeing what they were
achieving in that space.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
With all this travel, you must be sick of the
side of airports.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Yeah. I threw the passport and the drawer the other
day and I think, yeah, it'll be at least six
months before that comes out again, if not a year.
Just that you just learned to tune out like, it's
surprising how well you can adapt, Like when they came
back from Italy. You know, I was sort of went
to bed at eight o'clock one night and got up
back up at four the next and didn't really suffer
(05:36):
from the too much from the jet leg And yeah,
it's amazing condition your south to all those flights and
not affect you too much.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
So that pretty much concludes your nothing, your commitments.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yeah, so that's all my travel done, and now I'm
just going to sit down a knuckle out a solid
report at the end and that what's included that is
a fifty minute presentation at the by an your Nuffield
conference of the Cargo happening end of February coming so
(06:10):
for the big months between field Day's Lamb Day and
that conference happening. So it'll be quite cool get to
host a few Nowfield friends down in the cargo while
that's all happening at the end of February, So it'd
be great.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So would you recommend people going for the Noffield Scholarship
as such, Johno, based on.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Your yet, Yeah, absolutely. I think anyone that is looking
for is inquisitive and looking for answers and thinks that
they might have a curly one that no one's really
looked at. Absolutely put your hand up for the twenty
twenty seven round. And even even if that feels like that,
(06:49):
it's a too big a leafing commitment. Just looking to
the Raw Leaders programs, I've got the Barely Chain Tour
which happens in start of March from memory, sorry Jenuy
actually in the January, and that that goes through the
Kiwi Fruit Apple's red meat dairy sectors of New Zealand
(07:10):
from the farm.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
To the consumer.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
That's run the North Island over over a week to
nine days. Then itself is a really great place to
connect with people. But it's a full on the long days,
but you get so much out of it and it
really helped me with my approach and enough who I
was traveling. But yeah, the Ray Leaders program. If people
would just want to see how they can grind and develop,
(07:34):
just look into His zeal And Rule Leaders and there's
a number of different programs there to help people with
the growth their business and personal growth.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Good on you, John, I always appreciated your time on
the muster. This is the last time we chat for
twenty twenty five dear or say it so you and
the family enjoy the festive season and we'll chat in
twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah mate, myke Bum and Tiana this summer.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Cheers, John Pemberton, thanks for Sage and dan Stock Foods
based here in Gore. Eric Roy is up next in
the political segment for a Monday afternoon
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