September 21, 2025 • 8 mins
Logan Savory looks at why the Southland Stags have hit a wall in the NPC.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome back to the Muster. The music is Ride Stewart,
the song is do your Thing on Sexy. In reality
it should be Roning Keating's life is a roller coaster,
especially if you're a Stags rugby fan. After the highs
of about three weeks ago winning the ram Freely Shield,
all of a sudden it's all gone, Peaked Tong, It's
all gone the other way. Logan Savrey's on the line
from the South and Triviune to try and dissect what
(00:29):
the hell is going on with the Stags at the moment,
Sam Good Afternoon. Three weeks on the Stags have conceded
about one hundred and eighty odd points, scored about forty odd.
It's not a pretty picture.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
No, We've had the highs in the last of thaws
and sports. That's all in the space of three weeks.
You know, I've said to a lot of people when
we eat, like get to win the Shield. That was
one of the better performances I've seen from the South
and thing, given the conditions, what was at stake, the
way that defended, and then as I said in the Cans,
(01:00):
to get the job done on an attack as well. To
go from that to what I thought that the Canterbury
game was disappointing. Obviously just got bullied in that game,
but the Counties game really stood out. Got sixty odd
points put around on one of the worst performances I've
probably seen. That Wellington game felt like it was probably
(01:21):
brewing and unfortunately that's three pretty scary losses on the
trot there.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
But how could it go so wrong in the matter
of a couple of weeks effectively one hundred what are
we two hundred and forty minutes of rugby and they've
all been as atrocious as each other. You can understand Canterbury, yes,
had the hangover having this shield. There's a bit of
grace there the Counties and Wellington at the weekend. Yes,
Wellington had all wecks as well other things in the equation.
(01:48):
But there's no way and how there are seventy five
side against us?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
No, that's right? For whatever reasons, they're getting split up
the middle and defensively and what was their strength and
those ones they've a bar of plenty and wha kado
is there now turned into a weakness defensively. Look to
be honest, I think the two guys that carried two
(02:12):
only two guys, but two of the key guys that
carried the team, and that those ones that have a
bay of plenty or even before that man or two
and then the Sheldwin Kato were obviously SAMESSI two po
toy Lower and fellow to a penny, and I think
in particular without SUBMISSI two po ty Low against Wellington,
we were exposed. He does so much defensively and then
(02:35):
on tack gets them across the line, and unfortunately the
other guys didn't fill the avoid and we're exposed. Look
there there, Wellington All Blacks played very well as well.
Wasn't the case when the Workado had the All Blacks
Kyle Preston I thought was outstanding. But I'm saying that
South and let him run and dictate terms. So look,
(02:58):
really disappointing to be for you.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Is it a coaching issue with the Stags?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Perhaps?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Look, I mean I'm not inside the camp well well enough,
but I would I wouldn't think. Look, I think there's
some there's some good work being Dan Scott. He did
a really good job defensively as a defense new defense coach.
Initially obviously things have changed there. Can you put that
all down to the coaching when they when he did
(03:26):
such a good job defensively there. Attack wise, it's James
Wawlson's in charge of that. They've showed glimpses, but only
obviously in the last few weeks scored forty one points.
Nathan White, I don't know him well enough, but there's
some some pretty good raps of what he did under
the tutelage of Steve Vans and then and Ian Foster
(03:48):
at Toy out of a Blitz. So I think it'd
be a bit coll just to put it.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Down to coaching, because arguably this is going back to
the days of nineteen ninety eight ninety eight. In a
couple of games at the start, then it all went
down whole ninety nine. They had to draw against the
Targo and that was the lot for the year.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, I think what you're right. I mean that ninety
eighth season was absolutely terrible, but they were terrible light
throughout that season. What the frustrating thing is this season
is they've shown glimpses with those three games in Arraw
that they won that first half against man or two.
We've probably got a bit of an under indicator that
when they're not on on, but to go from what
(04:30):
they've what they've managed to do in those three games,
show some real defensive resolve. But then what we're what's
played out in the last three games. That's the biggest
concerning thing is that they're not just terrible across the board.
They've showed glimpses of what they can do, but for
whatever reasons, they're not able to back that up week
(04:53):
in week out. They've obviously we had a bit of
their depth exposed. You know, I look at like like
Sean with who's playing big minutes, playing week in week out.
In an ideal world, he probably wouldn't be playing eighty
minutes every week, but he just needs to at the
moment he's going to have to continue to probably for
(05:14):
the last two games as well. Now, yeah, look, there's
plenty of plenty of problems.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
The irony being with the way the Renfrelly Shell Renfree
Shields playing musical chairs. If Harbor gets up this week
and Lort Harbor has been terrible this year, the bottom
of the table with the donut, if they will beat
a tiger, the Stag's yet the last challenge. It's the
irony of this whole competition, which on the whole, let's
be honest, the NPC has been harder to pack than
a broken nose, which has been brilliant.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Oh, it's been a great competation. I absolutely loved this
year's competition. Obviously the last three weeks as a as
a Stags fan has been a little painful, but in
general the competition has been great and looks often did
play their partner too when they won those three games
in a row and included the shield that we was
a talk of the competition there for a bit, but
generally the fact that in a sports competition you want
(06:04):
team you want to front up each week knowing or
not knowing who's going to win a game, and there's
a lot of that across the board and I think
that's that's brilliant fas to say, But I've been one
of the real standout stories of this this season what
they've done. They've really struggled in recent years, but they've
(06:24):
just turned the turned the corner there playing some really
good rugby, got a bit of good a bit of
resolve about them, and bathfully deserve that victory the other
day and the glory of of around fairly.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Shield one Yeah, Targo is taking all the boxes at
the moment, kind of against the grain because they've had
some lean years as well, truth be known. But this
year everything's just coming up mettlehouse for them.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, they've got some guys there that we're probably finding
their feet at the MPC level and previous previous years
that are starting to stand up. I've obviously got some
good leaders in that team, Sam Gill, but you know
that I've got a new coach that's obviously doing a
good job and Mark Brown and I found a bit
(07:08):
of a breakout star on Lucas Casey on the on
the flank there who's who's sort of taken the competition
by storm. And Hare's couple of tries on the in
the Renfallly Sheld wind will go down in history.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Now, good on you say, I've always appreciate your time.
And Antler's up for Friday. We need all the help
we can give them, Eh.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Hey, Look, we haven't got a hand on the Clark
doing with a cap which has been played for over
the last few years. So let's just uh, let's just
fring as cross fro an absolute upset and get the
job done.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
This this Friday night, get on your say, I appreciate
your time as always.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Thank laugh out loud with ad proud because life on
the land can be a laughing matter. Brought to us
by sheer Well Data working to help the livestock farmer.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Blake walks into a bar, sits down in orders the bear.
As he set the beer, he heard a sour voice say,
nice tie. Looking around, he noticed that the bar was
empty except for himself and the bartender. A few SIPs later,
the voice said, beautiful shirt. At this, the man called
the bartender over, mate. It must be losing my mind
to keep hearing these voices saying nice things. And he's
not a soul in here but you and me. It's
(08:17):
a peanuts, answered the bartender. Say what, the man questioned,
that's right, you heard me. It's a peanuts. He says
the complimentary Well leave it there for the afternoon. Thanks
for your company, I mean, demure. This has been the
muster on hock, and now he thinks for Peter's genetics
see tomorrow
Welcome back to the Muster. The music is Ride Stewart,
the song is do your Thing on Sexy. In reality
it should be Roning Keating's life is a roller coaster,
especially if you're a Stags rugby fan. After the highs
of about three weeks ago winning the ram Freely Shield,
all of a sudden it's all gone, Peaked Tong, It's
all gone the other way. Logan Savrey's on the line
from the South and Triviune to try and dissect what
(00:29):
the hell is going on with the Stags at the moment,
Sam Good Afternoon. Three weeks on the Stags have conceded
about one hundred and eighty odd points, scored about forty odd.
It's not a pretty picture.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
No, We've had the highs in the last of thaws
and sports. That's all in the space of three weeks.
You know, I've said to a lot of people when
we eat, like get to win the Shield. That was
one of the better performances I've seen from the South
and thing, given the conditions, what was at stake, the
way that defended, and then as I said in the Cans,
(01:00):
to get the job done on an attack as well. To
go from that to what I thought that the Canterbury
game was disappointing. Obviously just got bullied in that game,
but the Counties game really stood out. Got sixty odd
points put around on one of the worst performances I've
probably seen. That Wellington game felt like it was probably
(01:21):
brewing and unfortunately that's three pretty scary losses on the
trot there.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
But how could it go so wrong in the matter
of a couple of weeks effectively one hundred what are
we two hundred and forty minutes of rugby and they've
all been as atrocious as each other. You can understand Canterbury, yes,
had the hangover having this shield. There's a bit of
grace there the Counties and Wellington at the weekend. Yes,
Wellington had all wecks as well other things in the equation.
(01:48):
But there's no way and how there are seventy five
side against us?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
No, that's right? For whatever reasons, they're getting split up
the middle and defensively and what was their strength and
those ones they've a bar of plenty and wha kado
is there now turned into a weakness defensively. Look to
be honest, I think the two guys that carried two
(02:12):
only two guys, but two of the key guys that
carried the team, and that those ones that have a
bay of plenty or even before that man or two
and then the Sheldwin Kato were obviously SAMESSI two po
toy Lower and fellow to a penny, and I think
in particular without SUBMISSI two po ty Low against Wellington,
we were exposed. He does so much defensively and then
(02:35):
on tack gets them across the line, and unfortunately the
other guys didn't fill the avoid and we're exposed. Look
there there, Wellington All Blacks played very well as well.
Wasn't the case when the Workado had the All Blacks
Kyle Preston I thought was outstanding. But I'm saying that
South and let him run and dictate terms. So look,
(02:58):
really disappointing to be for you.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Is it a coaching issue with the Stags?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Perhaps?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Look, I mean I'm not inside the camp well well enough,
but I would I wouldn't think. Look, I think there's
some there's some good work being Dan Scott. He did
a really good job defensively as a defense new defense coach.
Initially obviously things have changed there. Can you put that
all down to the coaching when they when he did
(03:26):
such a good job defensively there. Attack wise, it's James
Wawlson's in charge of that. They've showed glimpses, but only
obviously in the last few weeks scored forty one points.
Nathan White, I don't know him well enough, but there's
some some pretty good raps of what he did under
the tutelage of Steve Vans and then and Ian Foster
(03:48):
at Toy out of a Blitz. So I think it'd
be a bit coll just to put it.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Down to coaching, because arguably this is going back to
the days of nineteen ninety eight ninety eight. In a
couple of games at the start, then it all went
down whole ninety nine. They had to draw against the
Targo and that was the lot for the year.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, I think what you're right. I mean that ninety
eighth season was absolutely terrible, but they were terrible light
throughout that season. What the frustrating thing is this season
is they've shown glimpses with those three games in Arraw
that they won that first half against man or two.
We've probably got a bit of an under indicator that
when they're not on on, but to go from what
(04:30):
they've what they've managed to do in those three games,
show some real defensive resolve. But then what we're what's
played out in the last three games. That's the biggest
concerning thing is that they're not just terrible across the board.
They've showed glimpses of what they can do, but for
whatever reasons, they're not able to back that up week
(04:53):
in week out. They've obviously we had a bit of
their depth exposed. You know, I look at like like
Sean with who's playing big minutes, playing week in week out.
In an ideal world, he probably wouldn't be playing eighty
minutes every week, but he just needs to at the
moment he's going to have to continue to probably for
(05:14):
the last two games as well. Now, yeah, look, there's
plenty of plenty of problems.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
The irony being with the way the Renfrelly Shell Renfree
Shields playing musical chairs. If Harbor gets up this week
and Lort Harbor has been terrible this year, the bottom
of the table with the donut, if they will beat
a tiger, the Stag's yet the last challenge. It's the
irony of this whole competition, which on the whole, let's
be honest, the NPC has been harder to pack than
a broken nose, which has been brilliant.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Oh, it's been a great competation. I absolutely loved this
year's competition. Obviously the last three weeks as a as
a Stags fan has been a little painful, but in
general the competition has been great and looks often did
play their partner too when they won those three games
in a row and included the shield that we was
a talk of the competition there for a bit, but
generally the fact that in a sports competition you want
(06:04):
team you want to front up each week knowing or
not knowing who's going to win a game, and there's
a lot of that across the board and I think
that's that's brilliant fas to say, But I've been one
of the real standout stories of this this season what
they've done. They've really struggled in recent years, but they've
(06:24):
just turned the turned the corner there playing some really
good rugby, got a bit of good a bit of
resolve about them, and bathfully deserve that victory the other
day and the glory of of around fairly.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Shield one Yeah, Targo is taking all the boxes at
the moment, kind of against the grain because they've had
some lean years as well, truth be known. But this
year everything's just coming up mettlehouse for them.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, they've got some guys there that we're probably finding
their feet at the MPC level and previous previous years
that are starting to stand up. I've obviously got some
good leaders in that team, Sam Gill, but you know
that I've got a new coach that's obviously doing a
good job and Mark Brown and I found a bit
(07:08):
of a breakout star on Lucas Casey on the on
the flank there who's who's sort of taken the competition
by storm. And Hare's couple of tries on the in
the Renfallly Sheld wind will go down in history.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Now, good on you say, I've always appreciate your time.
And Antler's up for Friday. We need all the help
we can give them, Eh.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Hey, Look, we haven't got a hand on the Clark
doing with a cap which has been played for over
the last few years. So let's just uh, let's just
fring as cross fro an absolute upset and get the
job done.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
This this Friday night, get on your say, I appreciate
your time as always.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Thank laugh out loud with ad proud because life on
the land can be a laughing matter. Brought to us
by sheer Well Data working to help the livestock farmer.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Blake walks into a bar, sits down in orders the bear.
As he set the beer, he heard a sour voice say,
nice tie. Looking around, he noticed that the bar was
empty except for himself and the bartender. A few SIPs later,
the voice said, beautiful shirt. At this, the man called
the bartender over, mate. It must be losing my mind
to keep hearing these voices saying nice things. And he's
not a soul in here but you and me. It's
(08:17):
a peanuts, answered the bartender. Say what, the man questioned,
that's right, you heard me. It's a peanuts. He says
the complimentary Well leave it there for the afternoon. Thanks
for your company, I mean, demure. This has been the
muster on hock, and now he thinks for Peter's genetics
see tomorrow
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