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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Matt Taylor is part of the Beef and Lamb Southern
Farmer Council. He farms up at Lawn Peak in northern
South and joins us this afternoon. Good afternoon, Matt, Welcome
to the program.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, Andy, good after Andy. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yeah, it makes it suns out, guns out, not quite
to that degree, but you're based up at Lawn Peak
near Gars. Soon it sounds as though that snow was
slowly disappearing.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Look, we don't envy the spa industry. There's so much
on the top. So it's what's what's going to keep
the river running for the Summer's going to be interesting.
But oh look Stone on August, I'd rather have it
now in October.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, the ski industry in Queenstown, they'll be suffering at
the moment of it.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah. She looks pretty deer when over go out the hill,
shifting bloody balls up the hill and kind of looks
look up towards Cornea. The only really see the main
trails up there at the moment.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well, just every season is different from the last one.
Matt now up there at lawn Peak though, like I say,
you're part of the Beef and Lambs Southern Farmer Council.
It was a good week shindig last Friday nights and
Matt Ward I had him on the program on Tuesday show.
He was a Beef and Lambs Scholarship winner as well.
He just oozes positivity for the sector. It's what you
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want to see.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah, it's quite inspiring for the future, isn't it. But
I think you know, my role as an employee here
is to make sure I get more passionate people, people
that are more passionate and smarter than me involved in
my business. And if there's an industry you can get
those kind of people that are been are smarter than
the Because it come for him coming through. I think
we've got a pretty good future going forward. I thought
(01:45):
you did pretty well corralling the bloody the panel there
on Friday night and it was Yeah, Robbie and Nigel
made a few good points here.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Couldn't I It was fascinating. It was all about the
positivity of sector and talking about technology in the way
it's advancing. But look, Matt, you're part of the farm
of Research group there of Beef and Lamb. When you
talk about technology, a big one as well as AI
and now it's not artificial inseminations to keep saying it
is artificial intelligence and by the day it is just growing.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, it's when you think about what implication it has
for the society in general. Like I think the Economic
Forums come out and said it's going to be eighty
five million jobs will disappear in the next two years.
That's worldwide. But you know when we went back to
the two thousands and we had the Internet coming through
and we didn't know what all these people were going
to do. But you know, we seem to be busier
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than what we were for the Internet come around. But
you know, as far as it goes with egg and
sheep and beef, Beef and Lamb's got quite a cool
AI search engine come out called Bella, So you can
search all the old research papers and it's it's not
looking at the whole web, it's just looking at the
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Zealand eccentric research papers. You can type in a question
there about Jesus, why did I scan this, or any
question you want and it will come back to answer.
So let's pretty called tech.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
There yourself, Matt, are you quite happy to embrace this technology?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I think we're going to get left behind, to be fair,
to give you an example, like you know, in the
last five years, we're all caught up on you beyond
meats and order investment into alternative proteins. But you know,
the total investment worldwide that the alternative foods in the
last twelve years has been about nine percent, and worldwide
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we've spent about sixty over sixty percent into market and
retail systems. But I'm not talking about these zalainists worldwide.
So you know, the application of blockchain and AI and
robotics to get us further down that value chain and
get us closer to the market and get some more
of that value back to us, it's pretty exciting. It's look,
(04:02):
it's I think the jobs that are kind of be
really under threat of those kind of intellectual roles. Like
I was wandering and advertise the other day and we
just threw a couple of phrases and some scenery and
it come back with a half a minute ad of
our country farming, and there was AI the voice over everything.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Like copywriting, writing ads and the likes everything's up for grabs.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Bluddy yeah, bloody eyes. Like if you're an account for
a lawyer, like you know, an AI can go and
draft up an agreement. It's all coming. So where where
we playing agriculture? Little bit more hands on? Yeah, it's
just the whole data sovereignty. But we creep a lot
of data on farm and interpreting it. And I think
a lot of guys, you know, a lot of other
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outfits see more value in that data we click than
what we do. So if we can get AI in
there and make some really smart as soon as be Yeah, look,
I think it's something to be get excited about, not
to fear.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
What do you think of the biggest negatives around AO? Though, Matt?
We talk about the positives, but surely there's got to
be a downside to this, and a lot we say
we talk about jobs. What else?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Oh well, look it's you've got all that dystopian future stuff,
haven't you? That you terminator and the special thing about
humans that were sentient and we've you know, we've got
imagination and you know, whether it's AI is ever going
to replicate that creative side of it, I don't know.
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But bloody, you know, and agriculture can beat is like
it's it's skill, but there's also a bit of creative
to you. It's a complicated system when you so, yeah,
I don't know. It's the displacement of jobs is going
to be interesting. And you know how people are going
to earn money in the future, and that whole displacement
(05:54):
of jobs. Yeah, just from a society point of view,
it's going to be yeah, personating to watch.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I'm telling The other night they had an article about
the robot Olympics. I think in China, I don't think
anything so bizarre in my life.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, well, to give you one. In America, they've got
it's called mcflippers. All this robot and AI does as
flotburgers at McDonald's or any fast food outflue. I'm trying
to remember. I think that will make two hundred million
dollars more proper for fast food, almost two hundred It
was a big number in America every year, just by
getting rid of that one person that was minimum wage
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in the kitchen fucking burgers put a robot in there.
But you know, when you think about that, that means
instead of a company paying out wages they've got to
take on debt to do the capital investment. So where's
all that money going to come from? And yeah, just fascinating.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Do you think they've become a time and a place
in agriculture where even labor units will be under threat
due to AI?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah, well we're saying a little bit with Collins, now,
aren't we. Like come, you know, we've got the shepherd
collars up the hill and eventually, you know, if we
could wrap some AI around that where we could measure
the residuals feed residuals pre and post from a satellite,
and then AI interpreted it and went off and said, oh,
your feace needs to be dropped, or some way of
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measuring growth rates on those balls up the hill. You know,
it takes a little bit of that human facture out
of it us both and just like, yeah, gett a
bit more out of that system.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Absolutely, you're scared. You think that things are going to
end up Matt, Hey, we better leave it there. But
really interesting insight regarding technology. You enjoy the afternoon. Hopefully
the drive the ground drives out for you.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
What some and.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Matt Taylor fascinating insight regarding AI as well. What was
that figure? Eighty five million jobs gone and they're not
foreseeable and they're not too foreseeable future.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
There is it?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
A sporting gury Nathan Burdon, he's still got a job
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