November 20, 2025 • 8 mins
Morgan Greene of NS Vets looks at animal health issues as Spring gets near its end.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Musters Animal Health segment brought to you by any Fits
adding value through practical advice and service.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
No gimmicks, no patience, total bit care. Morgan green Of
in his fits, joins us on the Muster this afternoon.
Good afternoon, Morgie, Calvin Harris. They'll take you back to
your beats to days.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I was just thinking the same thing and that, Yeah,
that could cause that goes back away a wee while now,
doesn't it. So yeah, all things that are in the
memory banks, certainly I don't think the body would be
able to corp with some of the stuff that we
did back then.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Now certainly does now in his fits, of course, you
guys are the we catch up with you on a
regular basis. How things have been lately?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Oh, the things it's been taken along. We've been pretty busy,
but we would expect to be this time of year.
You know, it just sort of looks like next couple
of weeks things are just beginning to slow down a
wee bit, which is what we would expel. You know.
We're most people now will be through their first round
of AB and yeah, guys will be starting into the
(01:10):
second round. So we're we're just doing a few lace
non cycling cows. You know, I guess animals that haven't
come up in that first three weeks for most people,
hopefully the numbers aren't too big, and I think in
general they haven't been. You know, Submission rates in general
have been pretty good. Probably just a little bit worried
about what conception rates might be like just because cows
(01:33):
are still producing a heck of a lot of milk
at the moment. You know, I think from that point
of view, From a production point of view, things in
general have been really really good, So you know, it's just, yeah,
just making sure the conception rates are up to scratch.
And obviously, you know, one of the things that people
can do is maybe come in with some early scans
just to make sure that you know they are on
(01:54):
track from the point of view of yet. Look, if
cows haven't come back on heat, that yes, they are
in calf, rather than they have gone into what people
call a phantom stage, which is those animals that have
a heat and then don't subsequently have a heat and
you think they're in cast but they're not. So that's
just something to keep in the back of your mind.
If you think that non return rates are actually way
(02:16):
better than potentially.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
What they should be.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
You know, it may be a good thing, but equally
it may be a bad thing just because you know,
cows have been producing milk really really well. So it's, yeah,
just something to keep an eye on. Otherwise, here there
be some people will be just about to put bulls out,
both in the beef situation and for dairy guys, especially
if they're coming in with sort of four weeks of AB. Yeah,
(02:40):
there's a lot of people have rather than doing six
weeks of AB as they have done in the past,
maybe do four weeks but using sex semen. And then
of course obviously we have a lot of people using
technology so that most of them are AB all the
way through. But it's yeah, just making sure that you
have checked the bulls out, that everything is you know,
that they're fitting, healthy and able to work. And obviously
(03:04):
if you are noticing problems with bulls, getting them out
of the herd, because they're just likely to prevent some
of the healthier bulls from working, and just keeping a
real close eye on them rotating them around, especially in
the dairy situation and in the beef situation. Just make
sure that you know there's no injuries. We see a
lot of those at this time of year, you know,
(03:25):
lamenesses and fractured penises, that sort of thing. So it's just, yeah,
keeping a real close eye on things as you normally would,
just making sure that the bull team is working the
way that should do because if it's not, yeah, it
won't be so good at the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
And every thing you said before about production possibly hampering
conception rights, what's the big concern here.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Oh, look, it's you know, from the point of view
of energy in versus energy out. When cows are producing
a lot of milk, there's a whole load of energy
going into producing that, and so you know, it's how
that energy is partitioned within the cow. And we will
often say that when production is really really good, reproduction
(04:09):
can be impacted, and likewise we'll get it the other
way around. You know, we can get seasons where production
is pretty poor for whatever reason, and then actually reproduction
ends up being really really good. So it's just how
that energy is partitioned within the cow. You know, we
are getting to the point of a year where keeping
the energy levels into the cow becomes a bit more
(04:30):
of a challenge. Purely and simply because grass goes to seed,
so the quality drops off. You know, they may be
eating the same amount, but the actual quality that's in there,
or in fact, a lot of the time what happens
is the NDS or the neutral detergent fiber in the
grass that increases as the grass hardens a wee bit
and they actually don't feel like eating quite as much
(04:52):
as what they should, so they feel full quicker and
therefore don't eat as much either. So yeah, keeping grass
quality under control is really really important, you know. And
obviously we have a situation this year where when payout
is up, people are inclined to use a lot more
supplement in the shed compared to maybe what they might
normally do, and that drives milk production. So high protein
(05:15):
drives milk production, and it's just, uh, yeah, it's just
keeping an eye on those things. You know. Obviously high
production is a good thing. I'm not saying it's not,
but it's just trying to get that balance right between
production and reproduction, and that's easier said than done.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Is there a bit of a concern with blight, possibly
a lot of cliver cliver explosion due to the rhyme
we've head nail when so timt is being in the
early times.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Oh, look, absolutely it's always a bit of a concern.
We probably do tend to see it a little bit
earlier on than now, but absolutely it's you know, we
do have conditions that are pretty ideal for growing clover,
and once you're growing clover, the risk of float is
certainly there and you know, probably as big a risk
(06:01):
for beef cows as anything else, especially if they're moving
into into new pedducks that can be a risk. And
obviously the other thing once we get into a few
weeks time is you know, going on to new grass
paddocks and just being aware of the amount of weeds
that can be in there. So you know, in particular
the likes of spurry and yr and fat hen may
(06:22):
contain oxalates which can bind calcium. So we can often
see luke fever symptoms when cows go on to new grass.
So it's just been aware of that too.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Regarding the right we were talking about a kid to
finish up the avays, arguably the bait teams planning against
whales on Sunday morning. You're Irish team, You've got the
box there's going to be a hell of a game
and it will be a big mountain to climb if
you had to win.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Oh look, yeah, I'm not holding out a whole lot
of hope, to be honest. But that said, there was
certainly much improved performance by Ireland against Australia last week.
I do think Australia may have been half you know,
halfway on the plane home already. I think their second
half performance was pretty poor, but some of it was
(07:05):
The Irish performance was a lot better. I think Ireland,
you know, a few weeks ago, were deservedly beaten by
the All Blacks. They performed really really poorly in that game,
which to be fair, was probably not unexpected. There was
a number of guys that was actually their first game
of the season, so you know, it's a time of
year where it's a bit difficult. The Lions tour, there
was obviously a lot of Irish on that and then
(07:26):
they had an extended break after that competition. But you know,
for the Australians last week, they've been going hard at
it for a long time and you know, I think
it's you know, they've played something like fifteen sixteen tests
this year. I think it's you're throwing super rugby as well,
and it's it's not that easy to keep the body
up and probably in a lot of cases keep the
(07:46):
mind up as well. Look, I think in All Black
d or an E team would probably beat Wales. At
the moment, I think they're they're pretty poor. They're a
shadow of their former cells. The Welsh Rugby Union seems
to be in a bit of disarray. You know, there's
a lot going on behind the scenes there by all accounts.
So look, it would be nice to see well shrugby
back in a stronger place, but I think there are
(08:07):
a good few years away from that happening. So I
would fully expect the All Blacks, as you say, even
though it's a B team, to have a pretty handy
winner at the weekend.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Okay, Morgie to be sweat to get in touch with
the time at indeas Fits.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Oh look, just pick up the phone, give us a call.
At Riversdale it's two zero two five six three six,
and in Tiana it's two four nine seven zero three nine,
And yeah, look we're available twenty four to seven three
sixty five.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Morgan Green of India's Fits always appreciate your time and
enjoy the weekend.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Thanks Andy, you too, have a good one.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Morgan Green of Vedias fits animal health advisors to the Master.
We're a well a way, Murmy Nixt. We're going to
catch up with Warren Ross. He's been velveting. Today. We'll
see other situations being from Wolf's perspective.
Musters Animal Health segment brought to you by any Fits
adding value through practical advice and service.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
No gimmicks, no patience, total bit care. Morgan green Of
in his fits, joins us on the Muster this afternoon.
Good afternoon, Morgie, Calvin Harris. They'll take you back to
your beats to days.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I was just thinking the same thing and that, Yeah,
that could cause that goes back away a wee while now,
doesn't it. So yeah, all things that are in the
memory banks, certainly I don't think the body would be
able to corp with some of the stuff that we
did back then.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Now certainly does now in his fits, of course, you
guys are the we catch up with you on a
regular basis. How things have been lately?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Oh, the things it's been taken along. We've been pretty busy,
but we would expect to be this time of year.
You know, it just sort of looks like next couple
of weeks things are just beginning to slow down a
wee bit, which is what we would expel. You know.
We're most people now will be through their first round
of AB and yeah, guys will be starting into the
(01:10):
second round. So we're we're just doing a few lace
non cycling cows. You know, I guess animals that haven't
come up in that first three weeks for most people,
hopefully the numbers aren't too big, and I think in
general they haven't been. You know, Submission rates in general
have been pretty good. Probably just a little bit worried
about what conception rates might be like just because cows
(01:33):
are still producing a heck of a lot of milk
at the moment. You know, I think from that point
of view, From a production point of view, things in
general have been really really good, So you know, it's just, yeah,
just making sure the conception rates are up to scratch.
And obviously, you know, one of the things that people
can do is maybe come in with some early scans
just to make sure that you know they are on
(01:54):
track from the point of view of yet. Look, if
cows haven't come back on heat, that yes, they are
in calf, rather than they have gone into what people
call a phantom stage, which is those animals that have
a heat and then don't subsequently have a heat and
you think they're in cast but they're not. So that's
just something to keep in the back of your mind.
If you think that non return rates are actually way
(02:16):
better than potentially.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
What they should be.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
You know, it may be a good thing, but equally
it may be a bad thing just because you know,
cows have been producing milk really really well. So it's, yeah,
just something to keep an eye on. Otherwise, here there
be some people will be just about to put bulls out,
both in the beef situation and for dairy guys, especially
if they're coming in with sort of four weeks of AB. Yeah,
(02:40):
there's a lot of people have rather than doing six
weeks of AB as they have done in the past,
maybe do four weeks but using sex semen. And then
of course obviously we have a lot of people using
technology so that most of them are AB all the
way through. But it's yeah, just making sure that you
have checked the bulls out, that everything is you know,
that they're fitting, healthy and able to work. And obviously
(03:04):
if you are noticing problems with bulls, getting them out
of the herd, because they're just likely to prevent some
of the healthier bulls from working, and just keeping a
real close eye on them rotating them around, especially in
the dairy situation and in the beef situation. Just make
sure that you know there's no injuries. We see a
lot of those at this time of year, you know,
(03:25):
lamenesses and fractured penises, that sort of thing. So it's just, yeah,
keeping a real close eye on things as you normally would,
just making sure that the bull team is working the
way that should do because if it's not, yeah, it
won't be so good at the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
And every thing you said before about production possibly hampering
conception rights, what's the big concern here.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Oh, look, it's you know, from the point of view
of energy in versus energy out. When cows are producing
a lot of milk, there's a whole load of energy
going into producing that, and so you know, it's how
that energy is partitioned within the cow. And we will
often say that when production is really really good, reproduction
(04:09):
can be impacted, and likewise we'll get it the other
way around. You know, we can get seasons where production
is pretty poor for whatever reason, and then actually reproduction
ends up being really really good. So it's just how
that energy is partitioned within the cow. You know, we
are getting to the point of a year where keeping
the energy levels into the cow becomes a bit more
(04:30):
of a challenge. Purely and simply because grass goes to seed,
so the quality drops off. You know, they may be
eating the same amount, but the actual quality that's in there,
or in fact, a lot of the time what happens
is the NDS or the neutral detergent fiber in the
grass that increases as the grass hardens a wee bit
and they actually don't feel like eating quite as much
(04:52):
as what they should, so they feel full quicker and
therefore don't eat as much either. So yeah, keeping grass
quality under control is really really important, you know. And
obviously we have a situation this year where when payout
is up, people are inclined to use a lot more
supplement in the shed compared to maybe what they might
normally do, and that drives milk production. So high protein
(05:15):
drives milk production, and it's just, uh, yeah, it's just
keeping an eye on those things. You know. Obviously high
production is a good thing. I'm not saying it's not,
but it's just trying to get that balance right between
production and reproduction, and that's easier said than done.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Is there a bit of a concern with blight, possibly
a lot of cliver cliver explosion due to the rhyme
we've head nail when so timt is being in the
early times.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Oh, look, absolutely it's always a bit of a concern.
We probably do tend to see it a little bit
earlier on than now, but absolutely it's you know, we
do have conditions that are pretty ideal for growing clover,
and once you're growing clover, the risk of float is
certainly there and you know, probably as big a risk
(06:01):
for beef cows as anything else, especially if they're moving
into into new pedducks that can be a risk. And
obviously the other thing once we get into a few
weeks time is you know, going on to new grass
paddocks and just being aware of the amount of weeds
that can be in there. So you know, in particular
the likes of spurry and yr and fat hen may
(06:22):
contain oxalates which can bind calcium. So we can often
see luke fever symptoms when cows go on to new grass.
So it's just been aware of that too.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Regarding the right we were talking about a kid to
finish up the avays, arguably the bait teams planning against
whales on Sunday morning. You're Irish team, You've got the
box there's going to be a hell of a game
and it will be a big mountain to climb if
you had to win.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Oh look, yeah, I'm not holding out a whole lot
of hope, to be honest. But that said, there was
certainly much improved performance by Ireland against Australia last week.
I do think Australia may have been half you know,
halfway on the plane home already. I think their second
half performance was pretty poor, but some of it was
(07:05):
The Irish performance was a lot better. I think Ireland,
you know, a few weeks ago, were deservedly beaten by
the All Blacks. They performed really really poorly in that game,
which to be fair, was probably not unexpected. There was
a number of guys that was actually their first game
of the season, so you know, it's a time of
year where it's a bit difficult. The Lions tour, there
was obviously a lot of Irish on that and then
(07:26):
they had an extended break after that competition. But you know,
for the Australians last week, they've been going hard at
it for a long time and you know, I think
it's you know, they've played something like fifteen sixteen tests
this year. I think it's you're throwing super rugby as well,
and it's it's not that easy to keep the body
up and probably in a lot of cases keep the
(07:46):
mind up as well. Look, I think in All Black
d or an E team would probably beat Wales. At
the moment, I think they're they're pretty poor. They're a
shadow of their former cells. The Welsh Rugby Union seems
to be in a bit of disarray. You know, there's
a lot going on behind the scenes there by all accounts.
So look, it would be nice to see well shrugby
back in a stronger place, but I think there are
(08:07):
a good few years away from that happening. So I
would fully expect the All Blacks, as you say, even
though it's a B team, to have a pretty handy
winner at the weekend.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Okay, Morgie to be sweat to get in touch with
the time at indeas Fits.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Oh look, just pick up the phone, give us a call.
At Riversdale it's two zero two five six three six,
and in Tiana it's two four nine seven zero three nine,
And yeah, look we're available twenty four to seven three
sixty five.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Morgan Green of India's Fits always appreciate your time and
enjoy the weekend.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Thanks Andy, you too, have a good one.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Morgan Green of Vedias fits animal health advisors to the Master.
We're a well a way, Murmy Nixt. We're going to
catch up with Warren Ross. He's been velveting. Today. We'll
see other situations being from Wolf's perspective.
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