December 18, 2025 • 6 mins
Morgan looks at drenching and how farming routines have changed around this.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
God the Muster's Animal health segment with Innis vits adding
value through practical advice and service, no gimmicks, no potions,
total vet care.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
It's time to catch out with Morgan Green of Northern
South and VITZ, official animal health advisors to the Muster. Morgan,
good afternoon, How are you good afternoon?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
And they know I'm doing well. Thanks, How are you
pretty good?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
As we look outside and just looking at the drop
in temperature and it sounds like it's that way over
the next couple of days. But from a VITZ perspective,
how have we been over the past couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Oh, look, things have been taken along pretty well to
be fair, and certainly been very busy doing seakalegg counts
on lambs and people obviously wanting to know what their
status is. And definitely people are checking so much more now,
which is great to see both prior to drenching and
post drenching as well. So you know, if we went
(00:57):
back a few years ago, probably people were very much
in the routine of giving a pre winning drench and
by just doing that, and probably some of that was
based on our advice at the time. You know, if
we went back probably fifteen twenty years ago, was very
very common that we were actually see collect counting prior
to drenching. And so we've sort of come around full
(01:19):
circle a wee bit, which is yeah, which is which
is really good. So people are just making more informed decisions. Yeah,
I guess sometimes some of the challenge can be around,
right for drenching, Now, when when's our next draft going
to be? You had different mobs to one mob maybe
need to be drenched and another mob doesn't, and how
(01:39):
do we manage all of that? So yeah, there's always
some good conversations we had around it and just trying
to come up with a plan that's both practical but
also sensible. So yeah, look, plenty of those conversations happening.
We're into scanning of the of heifers at the moment,
and so AI heifers that have begin doing a wee
bit of that been trickling in and sort of certainly
(02:02):
a little bit of that, and of course a few
days the next week prior to the Christmas break doing
a little bit of phantom scanning in cows as well.
We don't really push a huge amount of that where Yeah,
I guess one of the things as well. If you
do come across a cow that has been mated and
is not pregnant, now what are your options around that
(02:23):
and is it actually worthwhile depending on the individual animal,
trying to trying to fix that situation. So that again,
that's individual conversations around farmers there. And yeah, once once
we get into early January, we'll start into the cow
scanning in a big way, and yeah, we'll carry on
into the new year. We've sort of yeah, obviously some
(02:46):
of the people will have a little bit of a
breakover over Christmas in the new year, over the set days,
but otherwise it's business as usual for us, not like
you Andy, who I believe has got quite a good
breakover over the next few weeks.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
It's a company directed Morgan.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
You know, it's very different situation to people that are
involved in farming. And ye know, from the point of
view of you kind of get a bit a bit annoyed.
And when you hear all the talk about all these
long holidays that people are able to take, when when
you're slogged away, but look, it's it's it's one of
those things. And then you know, I hope most people
(03:22):
can get a bit of time off and enjoy the
couple of days and you know, I know, cows still
need to be milked and stuff needs to be shifted
and looked after and all of that. But you know,
it's just one of those things at this time of year,
it has has to be done. All of those jobs
need to be done and you know, but at the
same time, the people to get a few hours where
they're able to enjoy you know, a bit of Christmas
(03:43):
spirit and yeah, a bit of time at some stage.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
How come in a phantom pregnancies and kettle.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Oh look reasonably common. So by a phantom pregnancy, I
mean you know, a cow has been mated and you
and then she does not come back on the heat.
So it'd very much be individual variation between farms. You know,
many different reasons for it. You certainly higher producing cows
(04:10):
if they're not being said as well as what they
possibly should be or could be, that can be a
bit of an issue. And you know, high producing cows
it's always a bit of a challenge this time of
year with grass quality not being quite the way it
should be at times. You know, so they they're mateed,
you think they're in calf because they haven't come back
and then they're not. So yeah, I guess I've I
(04:33):
haven't looked at our exact figures on that what those
numbers are, but you know, it's always a wee bit
of a challenge at times, and as there are individual
farm variations there as well. But it's yeah, it's more
it's a frustrating thing.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Because fandom pregnancies are a thing in dogs as well.
We had a look a couple of years ago, had
that heaven.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah, and that's that's more a pseudo pregnancy, which is
probably a slightly different thing in that in the hormone
cycle of the bitch is very very different to the cows.
The cows who just keep should keep cycling naturally if
they're not pregnant, whereas with bitches, because they have essentially
(05:13):
the majority of them come on heat twice a year,
it does work a little bit differently. So if they're
if they don't, if they're not mated, sometimes the body
can be tricked into thinking they are.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Pregnant, and so they can produce milk, they can nest,
they can do all sorts of things like that and
actually not be pregnant. And it's kind of an evolutionary
thing where they you know, we're the top top bitch
in the pack. She actually had the ability to be
able to foster some of her pups off onto some
of the other some of the other females who in
(05:44):
the pack, who are then able to look after them.
And that's kind of an evolutionary thing that has that
has happened.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
So clinic las over the holiday season, what's happening, Morgan.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Just closed for the stat days. Otherwise we're we're open
as per normal and close for the status is, but
there's always somebody on call. So twenty four to seven,
so riversale enneck is two zero two five, six, three
six and ten now two four nine seven zero three nine.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Good on your Morgan Green of videos fits. We appreciate
having you guys on board and catching up every couple
of weeks all the time. They enjoy the fist of season.
It's do it all again next year.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, no, absolutely we will. And obviously the happy Christmas
to everybody and all the best for twenty twenty six.
And yeah, have a good break yourself, and and we'll
catch up in the new year.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Morgan Green of innis fits remembering text cheer well all
one word s h E A s h E A
w E l L to five, double O nine. Go
on the draw to win two oil skin vists plus
a goodie bag from Ellen and Tam Sheerway on New Zealand,
who coincidentally we've cheered up. We cheer them up. We
have a chat next
God the Muster's Animal health segment with Innis vits adding
value through practical advice and service, no gimmicks, no potions,
total vet care.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
It's time to catch out with Morgan Green of Northern
South and VITZ, official animal health advisors to the Muster. Morgan,
good afternoon, How are you good afternoon?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
And they know I'm doing well. Thanks, How are you
pretty good?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
As we look outside and just looking at the drop
in temperature and it sounds like it's that way over
the next couple of days. But from a VITZ perspective,
how have we been over the past couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Oh, look, things have been taken along pretty well to
be fair, and certainly been very busy doing seakalegg counts
on lambs and people obviously wanting to know what their
status is. And definitely people are checking so much more now,
which is great to see both prior to drenching and
post drenching as well. So you know, if we went
(00:57):
back a few years ago, probably people were very much
in the routine of giving a pre winning drench and
by just doing that, and probably some of that was
based on our advice at the time. You know, if
we went back probably fifteen twenty years ago, was very
very common that we were actually see collect counting prior
to drenching. And so we've sort of come around full
(01:19):
circle a wee bit, which is yeah, which is which
is really good. So people are just making more informed decisions. Yeah,
I guess sometimes some of the challenge can be around,
right for drenching, Now, when when's our next draft going
to be? You had different mobs to one mob maybe
need to be drenched and another mob doesn't, and how
(01:39):
do we manage all of that? So yeah, there's always
some good conversations we had around it and just trying
to come up with a plan that's both practical but
also sensible. So yeah, look, plenty of those conversations happening.
We're into scanning of the of heifers at the moment,
and so AI heifers that have begin doing a wee
bit of that been trickling in and sort of certainly
(02:02):
a little bit of that, and of course a few
days the next week prior to the Christmas break doing
a little bit of phantom scanning in cows as well.
We don't really push a huge amount of that where Yeah,
I guess one of the things as well. If you
do come across a cow that has been mated and
is not pregnant, now what are your options around that
(02:23):
and is it actually worthwhile depending on the individual animal,
trying to trying to fix that situation. So that again,
that's individual conversations around farmers there. And yeah, once once
we get into early January, we'll start into the cow
scanning in a big way, and yeah, we'll carry on
into the new year. We've sort of yeah, obviously some
(02:46):
of the people will have a little bit of a
breakover over Christmas in the new year, over the set days,
but otherwise it's business as usual for us, not like
you Andy, who I believe has got quite a good
breakover over the next few weeks.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
It's a company directed Morgan.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
You know, it's very different situation to people that are
involved in farming. And ye know, from the point of
view of you kind of get a bit a bit annoyed.
And when you hear all the talk about all these
long holidays that people are able to take, when when
you're slogged away, but look, it's it's it's one of
those things. And then you know, I hope most people
(03:22):
can get a bit of time off and enjoy the
couple of days and you know, I know, cows still
need to be milked and stuff needs to be shifted
and looked after and all of that. But you know,
it's just one of those things at this time of year,
it has has to be done. All of those jobs
need to be done and you know, but at the
same time, the people to get a few hours where
they're able to enjoy you know, a bit of Christmas
(03:43):
spirit and yeah, a bit of time at some stage.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
How come in a phantom pregnancies and kettle.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Oh look reasonably common. So by a phantom pregnancy, I
mean you know, a cow has been mated and you
and then she does not come back on the heat.
So it'd very much be individual variation between farms. You know,
many different reasons for it. You certainly higher producing cows
(04:10):
if they're not being said as well as what they
possibly should be or could be, that can be a
bit of an issue. And you know, high producing cows
it's always a bit of a challenge this time of
year with grass quality not being quite the way it
should be at times. You know, so they they're mateed,
you think they're in calf because they haven't come back
and then they're not. So yeah, I guess I've I
(04:33):
haven't looked at our exact figures on that what those
numbers are, but you know, it's always a wee bit
of a challenge at times, and as there are individual
farm variations there as well. But it's yeah, it's more
it's a frustrating thing.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Because fandom pregnancies are a thing in dogs as well.
We had a look a couple of years ago, had
that heaven.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah, and that's that's more a pseudo pregnancy, which is
probably a slightly different thing in that in the hormone
cycle of the bitch is very very different to the cows.
The cows who just keep should keep cycling naturally if
they're not pregnant, whereas with bitches, because they have essentially
(05:13):
the majority of them come on heat twice a year,
it does work a little bit differently. So if they're
if they don't, if they're not mated, sometimes the body
can be tricked into thinking they are.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Pregnant, and so they can produce milk, they can nest,
they can do all sorts of things like that and
actually not be pregnant. And it's kind of an evolutionary
thing where they you know, we're the top top bitch
in the pack. She actually had the ability to be
able to foster some of her pups off onto some
of the other some of the other females who in
(05:44):
the pack, who are then able to look after them.
And that's kind of an evolutionary thing that has that
has happened.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
So clinic las over the holiday season, what's happening, Morgan.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Just closed for the stat days. Otherwise we're we're open
as per normal and close for the status is, but
there's always somebody on call. So twenty four to seven,
so riversale enneck is two zero two five, six, three
six and ten now two four nine seven zero three nine.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Good on your Morgan Green of videos fits. We appreciate
having you guys on board and catching up every couple
of weeks all the time. They enjoy the fist of season.
It's do it all again next year.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, no, absolutely we will. And obviously the happy Christmas
to everybody and all the best for twenty twenty six.
And yeah, have a good break yourself, and and we'll
catch up in the new year.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Morgan Green of innis fits remembering text cheer well all
one word s h E A s h E A
w E l L to five, double O nine. Go
on the draw to win two oil skin vists plus
a goodie bag from Ellen and Tam Sheerway on New Zealand,
who coincidentally we've cheered up. We cheer them up. We
have a chat next
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