October 12, 2025 • 9 mins
Murray Cockburn of Mainland Minerals talks Spring fertiliser options.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Welcome back to the muster on Hakanui, joined in studio
by Murray kober And of Mainland Minerals. He requested the
music today and what Mary wants he gets and Murray,
good afternoon. Hysteria by def live at any particular reason.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Oh, it's one of those songs that I just remember
is that when I was going through school, you know,
it was just one of those ones that was really
popular in and everyone was under it.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
So it was a great bit of music of the time.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Playing it in the Sanyo tape recorder.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Or yeah, the JBC can set recorder got given from
a Christmas present one time.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Trying to tell the yager generation these days about winding
out getting the pencil tape. They'll never get.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
It, start and turn it over and start again.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
All part of the fun. Mainland Minerals. Since we spoke
last time, we've seen a bit of a change and
the growth patterns and the likes. But you guys, it's
a busy time of year.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yeah, definitely. I was just looking at that growth.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I was coming up from Tiana today, Andy, and it's
just I mean, Tianne is pretty much skunked out at
the moment, but there's some you can see it's starting
to move. But the further you get down towards Gore,
you know, down that Belpha back Kingston crossing back Struck Road,
there's there's aye some really really good tucker there. So
it's it's good to see. And I see the saw
temps are sitting there the last four days just under
(01:23):
eleven degrees, just sitting there out of Tama there, and
that's outstanding. You know, we've got next got two big
rainfall sort of steel forecasts for next week and later
today and then I think on the weekend. But other
than that, just a wee bit of dri drizzly rain
and it's just good sort of warm growing conditions so kept.
I think three or four days of sunshine amongst that too, hopefully,
(01:44):
which is what we need.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
And that's a big thing at the moment, I suppose,
isn't it just China when when you've had a slower
start the spring, trying to get the tucker to move on,
But quality tucker at that too.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Absolutely, and that's what we had a lot of guys
at the moment that are using the ignite in which
is just something we've been just promoting. We but lately,
it's just it's got the quicken and quick and slow
nightegen and sulfur, and that's really important this time of
the year. You're wanting some tuckerheadio. It's just it's key
to get those two nutrients going. Particularly you've got your
(02:14):
pea levels, it's still relatively okay. It's just trying the
young grasses in particular, the clovers aren't really producing that
natural nights gen with you know, takes a while to
get that natural nightch and production up to about the
first eighteen months.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
To two years, so you really need to bridge that gap.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
With some artificial nights gen. And as much as we
don't like using artificial night gen, it's actually a really
important thing. Otherwise you end up getting hohole lot of
weeds and stuff in your young grasses, and that sort
of defeats the purpose of what you've done with your crops.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
It's sort of about having those tools in the toolbox though.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Oh absolutely dead right.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
So the other thing we sort of talk about this
time of the year is extega your saw testing done.
It's something that knowing what the detail is of the
major nutrients and trace elements. It's really really important to
to understand that picture first across your farm and then
jigsaw your farm up and then apply the different nutrients
(03:05):
to the different areas without going paddock by paddock, but
just trying to get into sort of two or three
groups of fertilizer application and really important to do that. Also,
thinking back the last couple of years with the economics
of farming and the sheep and beef guys, I know
a lot of my clients have been sort of backed
right off, and now it's time to really Now we
(03:27):
got that weather in front of us, it's really time
to get that fertile and get it cranking. So get
that value out of your pastures that you've got in
front of you and the cheapest way of growing tuckers
on your farm.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
But put the right nutrients on you get the best results.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
When you're talking to cockies at the moment, and they've
been hesitant because of the season, especially the sheep and
beef since you'll be noticing though a lot more sword
testing and there are regimes gone back to how it was.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Definitely the intentions there any but I think there's definitely
been a bit of people just waiting to see what
hits the deck with the numbers, numbers of lambs on
the deck, and how well, uh, you know, health health
things lock anyone's a week but sort of well, you know,
it all looks positive. But let's just make sure we've
got those animals that that we can finish. That's and
and and I do the same thing. I think, I
(04:12):
think it's good thinking. But but but at some point
you've just got to make that call and go right
on into it.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
We've got the numbers. Things are looking good. We have
got good meat meat and even wolves looking even better,
isn't it. So so it's it's bloody good. The land
and and and B side of things is awesome. So
so make the most of it. But but if you're
going to finish so as quickly, you want to make
sure that you're putting that that newture down there into
those pastures, and and and also don't forget those little
(04:41):
egg sort of spark plugs making sure that those those
trace minerals are up to speed as well. And it's
it's often a big overlook thing. You can have everything
else pumping, but if you haven't got that those trace
minerals likes you lib them for and then for animal health,
you're going to have your copper and your zinc and
and boron's really really important, cobalt and selenium of course,
(05:04):
so and sometimes manganese can be an issue as well.
So so just looking at what are those limiting factors
across that what what I call the other half of
the wine barrel. We can look at half the wine
barrel as the major new chance. The other half is
the trace minerals, and you want to make sure that
if there's a big deficit there, then you can have
some major issues as well with finishing animals.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Social media it's a great way to get your messaging
out these days. You've got Lisa in here running around
with the camera as well. Not that that's intimidating or anything,
but look, it's all about getting in message out there.
You'll be on TikTok, no doubt, murray tick what tak
top tack? There's something you put in your mouth?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, no, no, I'm not very good on social media
at all. So it's something that we've we've always wanted
to figure out how do we do But it's a
bit better in that area. So we've got yeah, we've
got Lisa on board here and she's done a bit
of video on here today, sort of behind the scenes stuff,
So it's yeah, it's sort of how do you get
your message across, how to get your story across of
(06:02):
what you actually do and what's the genuine side of
what Mainland Minerals does and how we care for our
farmers and that that's a I see that social media
is a real avenue to do that, and it's and
so far we've done extremely well. It's the short short
time we've been doing it, and we've got a couple
of other young guys that have been helping us out,
real real cool young guys up and Wanaka that are
(06:22):
just sort of I think it's a year year thirteen
if they were stayed at school. They just they just
start their own company up there and they're out doing
all the social media stuff and these ad campaigns and stuff,
and it's it's actually really really cool. So I'm learning
lots about it at the moment, and yeah, the views
and stuff have been amazing and it's quite it's quite interesting.
I just time will tell us how that translates into
(06:42):
growing the business, But at the moment, it's it's gone
extremely well.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, Instagram.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Some great reels on Instagram. You'll find that out.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
All I know.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
All I know is my kids. I keep telling them
don't do doom scrolling. That's about the only way I
know on Instagram is that, right? You just sit there
and keep watching stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Fleck. Now, you guys have got some awesome sayings here.
You're only as good as you do it. That resonates
in a whole lot of ways, and a lot of
people talk about that, but the other one here as well.
We're not just about fertilizer. We're about helping farmers get
the most out of every paddock. You know, just shortened
to the point, but relevant to what you're trying to achieve, right.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah, absolutely, it's.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, we want to we want to get as much
out of that farm as we can, and that that
foot of soil under your feet is just the most
important thing. And if you don't fully understand it, and
you don't, well, if you're just getting the same recommendations
each year and you're just putting superphosphate on and it's
the same recommendation, and you sit there and you go,
I've just spent all those tens of thousands, sometimes hundreds
(07:42):
of thousands of dollars and I've ticked the box. What
are you actually missing out on? And that's the real
key thing. You've got to make sure you get those
those details right and have a good grasp it. And
so you so because at the end of the day,
you are only as good as that dirt that is
performing under your feet. So so get it, get stuck in,
get good people around you. And I think we also
talk about we talk about sort of products and fertilized
(08:04):
and knows to be guilty of this, you know, but
it's actually the service from your reps.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
You want bloody good.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Reps that know their stuff and they can really help
you get to the bottom of things and and and
rip that information out of the soul so you understand
the details and you put the right fertilizer on to
meet those deficits. And it can be compaction, it can
be different other things that you're not thinking about. You
just looking at the soul test. So you need someone
that's got a lot of experience around the table.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
That's what we have.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Mainly we have a good bunch of people down to earth,
good people. They really know what they're talking about. And
then you can get the most out of you dirt,
then you can get the most out of your profit
and loss. And then you can also know and you
sleep well at night that you've been responsible for the
environment as well.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Mainly minerals. People want to get in touch. How do
they do it?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Probably just the website mainly minerals dot com or if
you want to give us a call three two eight
three double zero four.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Good on your mara. Always good to catch.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Up, eh, thanks Andy.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Murray Cobra and I've mainly minerals. You know the same.
You're only as good as your diret. Always got to
catch up with the team as it is. Next with
Penny Simmons, MP from the Cargo and Minister for the Environment.
This is the master
Welcome back to the muster on Hakanui, joined in studio
by Murray kober And of Mainland Minerals. He requested the
music today and what Mary wants he gets and Murray,
good afternoon. Hysteria by def live at any particular reason.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Oh, it's one of those songs that I just remember
is that when I was going through school, you know,
it was just one of those ones that was really
popular in and everyone was under it.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
So it was a great bit of music of the time.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Playing it in the Sanyo tape recorder.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Or yeah, the JBC can set recorder got given from
a Christmas present one time.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Trying to tell the yager generation these days about winding
out getting the pencil tape. They'll never get.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
It, start and turn it over and start again.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
All part of the fun. Mainland Minerals. Since we spoke
last time, we've seen a bit of a change and
the growth patterns and the likes. But you guys, it's
a busy time of year.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yeah, definitely. I was just looking at that growth.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I was coming up from Tiana today, Andy, and it's
just I mean, Tianne is pretty much skunked out at
the moment, but there's some you can see it's starting
to move. But the further you get down towards Gore,
you know, down that Belpha back Kingston crossing back Struck Road,
there's there's aye some really really good tucker there. So
it's it's good to see. And I see the saw
temps are sitting there the last four days just under
(01:23):
eleven degrees, just sitting there out of Tama there, and
that's outstanding. You know, we've got next got two big
rainfall sort of steel forecasts for next week and later
today and then I think on the weekend. But other
than that, just a wee bit of dri drizzly rain
and it's just good sort of warm growing conditions so kept.
I think three or four days of sunshine amongst that too, hopefully,
(01:44):
which is what we need.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
And that's a big thing at the moment, I suppose,
isn't it just China when when you've had a slower
start the spring, trying to get the tucker to move on,
But quality tucker at that too.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Absolutely, and that's what we had a lot of guys
at the moment that are using the ignite in which
is just something we've been just promoting. We but lately,
it's just it's got the quicken and quick and slow
nightegen and sulfur, and that's really important this time of
the year. You're wanting some tuckerheadio. It's just it's key
to get those two nutrients going. Particularly you've got your
(02:14):
pea levels, it's still relatively okay. It's just trying the
young grasses in particular, the clovers aren't really producing that
natural nights gen with you know, takes a while to
get that natural nightch and production up to about the
first eighteen months.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
To two years, so you really need to bridge that gap.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
With some artificial nights gen. And as much as we
don't like using artificial night gen, it's actually a really
important thing. Otherwise you end up getting hohole lot of
weeds and stuff in your young grasses, and that sort
of defeats the purpose of what you've done with your crops.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
It's sort of about having those tools in the toolbox though.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Oh absolutely dead right.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
So the other thing we sort of talk about this
time of the year is extega your saw testing done.
It's something that knowing what the detail is of the
major nutrients and trace elements. It's really really important to
to understand that picture first across your farm and then
jigsaw your farm up and then apply the different nutrients
(03:05):
to the different areas without going paddock by paddock, but
just trying to get into sort of two or three
groups of fertilizer application and really important to do that. Also,
thinking back the last couple of years with the economics
of farming and the sheep and beef guys, I know
a lot of my clients have been sort of backed
right off, and now it's time to really Now we
(03:27):
got that weather in front of us, it's really time
to get that fertile and get it cranking. So get
that value out of your pastures that you've got in
front of you and the cheapest way of growing tuckers
on your farm.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
But put the right nutrients on you get the best results.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
When you're talking to cockies at the moment, and they've
been hesitant because of the season, especially the sheep and
beef since you'll be noticing though a lot more sword
testing and there are regimes gone back to how it was.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Definitely the intentions there any but I think there's definitely
been a bit of people just waiting to see what
hits the deck with the numbers, numbers of lambs on
the deck, and how well, uh, you know, health health
things lock anyone's a week but sort of well, you know,
it all looks positive. But let's just make sure we've
got those animals that that we can finish. That's and
and and I do the same thing. I think, I
(04:12):
think it's good thinking. But but but at some point
you've just got to make that call and go right
on into it.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
We've got the numbers. Things are looking good. We have
got good meat meat and even wolves looking even better,
isn't it. So so it's it's bloody good. The land
and and and B side of things is awesome. So
so make the most of it. But but if you're
going to finish so as quickly, you want to make
sure that you're putting that that newture down there into
those pastures, and and and also don't forget those little
(04:41):
egg sort of spark plugs making sure that those those
trace minerals are up to speed as well. And it's
it's often a big overlook thing. You can have everything
else pumping, but if you haven't got that those trace
minerals likes you lib them for and then for animal health,
you're going to have your copper and your zinc and
and boron's really really important, cobalt and selenium of course,
(05:04):
so and sometimes manganese can be an issue as well.
So so just looking at what are those limiting factors
across that what what I call the other half of
the wine barrel. We can look at half the wine
barrel as the major new chance. The other half is
the trace minerals, and you want to make sure that
if there's a big deficit there, then you can have
some major issues as well with finishing animals.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Social media it's a great way to get your messaging
out these days. You've got Lisa in here running around
with the camera as well. Not that that's intimidating or anything,
but look, it's all about getting in message out there.
You'll be on TikTok, no doubt, murray tick what tak
top tack? There's something you put in your mouth?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, no, no, I'm not very good on social media
at all. So it's something that we've we've always wanted
to figure out how do we do But it's a
bit better in that area. So we've got yeah, we've
got Lisa on board here and she's done a bit
of video on here today, sort of behind the scenes stuff,
So it's yeah, it's sort of how do you get
your message across, how to get your story across of
(06:02):
what you actually do and what's the genuine side of
what Mainland Minerals does and how we care for our
farmers and that that's a I see that social media
is a real avenue to do that, and it's and
so far we've done extremely well. It's the short short
time we've been doing it, and we've got a couple
of other young guys that have been helping us out,
real real cool young guys up and Wanaka that are
(06:22):
just sort of I think it's a year year thirteen
if they were stayed at school. They just they just
start their own company up there and they're out doing
all the social media stuff and these ad campaigns and stuff,
and it's it's actually really really cool. So I'm learning
lots about it at the moment, and yeah, the views
and stuff have been amazing and it's quite it's quite interesting.
I just time will tell us how that translates into
(06:42):
growing the business, But at the moment, it's it's gone
extremely well.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, Instagram.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Some great reels on Instagram. You'll find that out.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
All I know.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
All I know is my kids. I keep telling them
don't do doom scrolling. That's about the only way I
know on Instagram is that, right? You just sit there
and keep watching stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Fleck. Now, you guys have got some awesome sayings here.
You're only as good as you do it. That resonates
in a whole lot of ways, and a lot of
people talk about that, but the other one here as well.
We're not just about fertilizer. We're about helping farmers get
the most out of every paddock. You know, just shortened
to the point, but relevant to what you're trying to achieve, right.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah, absolutely, it's.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, we want to we want to get as much
out of that farm as we can, and that that
foot of soil under your feet is just the most
important thing. And if you don't fully understand it, and
you don't, well, if you're just getting the same recommendations
each year and you're just putting superphosphate on and it's
the same recommendation, and you sit there and you go,
I've just spent all those tens of thousands, sometimes hundreds
(07:42):
of thousands of dollars and I've ticked the box. What
are you actually missing out on? And that's the real
key thing. You've got to make sure you get those
those details right and have a good grasp it. And
so you so because at the end of the day,
you are only as good as that dirt that is
performing under your feet. So so get it, get stuck in,
get good people around you. And I think we also
talk about we talk about sort of products and fertilized
(08:04):
and knows to be guilty of this, you know, but
it's actually the service from your reps.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
You want bloody good.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Reps that know their stuff and they can really help
you get to the bottom of things and and and
rip that information out of the soul so you understand
the details and you put the right fertilizer on to
meet those deficits. And it can be compaction, it can
be different other things that you're not thinking about. You
just looking at the soul test. So you need someone
that's got a lot of experience around the table.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
That's what we have.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Mainly we have a good bunch of people down to earth,
good people. They really know what they're talking about. And
then you can get the most out of you dirt,
then you can get the most out of your profit
and loss. And then you can also know and you
sleep well at night that you've been responsible for the
environment as well.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Mainly minerals. People want to get in touch. How do
they do it?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Probably just the website mainly minerals dot com or if
you want to give us a call three two eight
three double zero four.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Good on your mara. Always good to catch.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Up, eh, thanks Andy.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Murray Cobra and I've mainly minerals. You know the same.
You're only as good as your diret. Always got to
catch up with the team as it is. Next with
Penny Simmons, MP from the Cargo and Minister for the Environment.
This is the master
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