October 19, 2025 • 9 mins
Nick Bewley of Newstalk ZB looks ahead to the NPC Final between Otago and Canterbury.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome back to the muster on Hakanuid Now if you're
looking for hardy, easycre rams, the Fiveview Ram Open Day
is happening on Thursday, October the thirtieth from one PU
onwards at five Yew which is thirteen eighteen Waitahuna West Road,
Lawrence Finding Rodney's, Rodney Texas and stuff Texas on display,
take the IVF, have a yarn, go and talk about
(00:27):
your Ram options for next season. That's with the five
View Ram Open Day happening Thursday, October the thirtieth. As
we catch up with the news dogs MBS Nick Bewley, Nick,
good afternoon. Do you need a few rams to graze
the stadium of yours when it finishes up next week?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Might do? Actually, Andy here, good afternoon, tou. There's a
little bit of uncertainty around the future of our elongated
temporary stadium at Addington, whether it's going to return to
I don't know, a sort of recreational use for the community,
or whether it we'll just go the highest bidder and
we'll see some more medium density housing shoot up in
(01:03):
that area of christ Church. But yeah, the time being,
well the decision makes swept around that. After this Provincial
Final at the weekend between Cannabury and Otagia. We might
take a couple of rams to keep the field in
good shape.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
The Polo Projects Stadium, how will it be remembered in
christ Church because we never forget, well, we never forget
what Lancaster Park was like. But this has been a stadium.
But I suppose has served its purpose in between Takaha.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, I think it's going to have quite a confused legacy,
if you're like or a conflicting legacy, because let's face it,
Without it, where would the Crusaders and where would Canterbury
Rugby have gone? Rugby Park their training base. There has
been the odd game there, but it's far too small,
so they needed somewhere to go. They couldn't return to
(01:49):
Lancaster Park course. So it has served a really important purpose.
Since the earthquakes in twenty eleven, however, I think there's
been increasing stration, particularly given the delays to the new
stadium which will finally open in April next year, and
the match day experience that you do have in Addington.
(02:10):
Let's not forgetting it. It is sort of held together
by scaff and the like, and it rattles and it's
pretty tough going, particularly in winter. So yeah, I think
there won't be many people who will miss it. But
I think on the whole people will remember it as
serving a really important purpose because, as I say, without it,
(02:33):
I don't know what it would mean the Crusaders and
cannab we probably have to go play at a bunch
of different clubs around the region just to have home games.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Kenterbury versus Otago in the NPC Final, it's a remake
of two thousand and one where redo, I should say
both teams arguably and pretty good form. Well they're in
the final, so it goes about saying but this match
could actually be defined as a classic. For my opinion,
I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah. I was very fortunate to commentate the Cannabury Otago
Ranfilly Shield game about a month or so ago on
gold Sport and that was an absolute barn berner, a
targo of course getting the job done. They came back
late and won that one by I think it was
two points in they might have been thirty eight thirty six,
held onto the Ranfilly Shield and locked that away for
the summer. I think it's two teams who go about
(03:21):
their style of rugby in slightly different ways. For Canterbury,
it's all about a suffocating defense and dominance up in
the carry, the clean and the collision through their forward pack.
As we saw on the weekend Hawks they were you know,
they were there or thereabouts in the first half, but
just completely blind away in the second, whereas Otago, I
(03:44):
think almost everyone's second team by the sounds of things
around the office and grossier dandy. The way they're going
about the style of rugby, very entertaining product. They're willing
to shift the ball attack from deep within their own half.
They've got this incredibly exciting young halfback that everyone's talking
about Dylan Pledger, and the open side flanker to Lucas
(04:05):
Casey I think is a serious talent, and then molded
with some real experienced players like your Jonah Nerekis and
Sam Gilbert. So I think it sets up really nicely.
Is obviously that you know the regional history and too
old foes Cannabury are targeting, and a lot of familiarity
too between the two teams. You think James Lynch's who's
(04:28):
part of the Canterbury coaching staff. He captain Otago played
almost his entire professional career down in Dunedin. And then
you've got first year Otigo head coach Mark Brown who's
based up here in christ Church and was formerly a
Cannabury NPC co coach with Reuben Thorn. So there's a
lot on the line. It all shapes really nicely for
(04:49):
the Saturday I just hope there's a bumper crowded. Last
time I checked this morning, six thousand tickets already pre sold,
which would I reckon exceed the crowd that was there
on Saturday night for that semi final. So if we
can get north of ten thousand, that's got to be
the hope. They can fit about fifteen thousand in there
would be great to see that sold outside pop up
(05:11):
before Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Now you gave me the tip earlier out of the
season back around Dylan Pledge duram watching him explode onto
the scene the way that he has. But why has
he missed out on selection for the av for the
New Zealand A side.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah it's a good question, isn't it Because for mine,
he already, even though he hasn't played Super rugby, would
have to be one of the top six half backs
in the country. It's an interesting balancing act. This All
Blacks fifteen, This New Zealand B side, if you like,
given its coach by Jamie Joseph, who will also be
Dylan Pledge's super rugby coach for the Highlanders in season
(05:45):
twenty twenty six. So the official line was that Dylan
Pledger is still very young in his rugby journey. The
preference for the Jamie Joseph and the preference for all
the way up for the All Blacks coaches is that
Dylan Pledges of full super raby preseason under his belt
back home and is ready to fire from the word
(06:07):
going super rugby next year. I kind of understand it,
but sometimes you know, if we cast our minds all
the way back to a young Richie McCoy who didn't
play super rugby before he played for the All Blacks,
just came straight off an MPC campaign, sometimes he just
got to look at talent and say, if you're old enough,
you're good enough. And for me at least I would
have loved to see him board the plane next week
(06:29):
on that All Blacks fifteen tour alas we're going to
see him in this NPC final on Saturday, and we're
going to hear his name for a long time to come.
I don't want to put too much pressure on the
young man, but for me anyway, Andy, we're two years
out from a World Cup. We've got a fantastic half
back already the All Blacks and Cameron Royguard. But it
would not shock me Dylan pledged by that point be
(06:51):
twenty two years old for that World Cup in Australia.
If he's in the mix already, such as his talent
and the rise already from the New Yelling under twenty
ranks to completely dominating NPC level, I can see them
just shooting the lights out in super rugby and going
all the way to being a very good All Black.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Just finally, the Black camps against England playing short form
at the moment before the fifty over variety kicks off
sooner than later. But unfortunately the weather gods aren't playing
ball as they aren't around the country in a lot
of instances at the moment. And I don't know, scheduling
cricket for New Zealand and October seems a bit bizarre.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, They're hands are tight, are a little bit, aren't they? Andy?
Where you know that's such as the dominance and proliferation
of franchise T twenty cricket around the country, around the world,
I should say, you know they're struggling to sort of
fit in around those schedules in terms of getting marquee
nations like Australia and England. But you're absolutely right. Yeah,
(07:47):
it's a real risk and reward dance to schedule any
cricket in October, such as the volatility of the weather.
We've found that here in christ Church a Saturday night's
game of course being abandoned by run Chase there for
the black Cats tonight, the forecast I am pleased to
say it looks slightly bitter, there is the odd chance
of a shower, but we should get in all of
(08:10):
or if not, just a couple of minor disruptions for
the second T twenty. But you would hope down the
line we can get back to it genuinely being a
summer of.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Cricket, Nick Buy, we can hear your commentaries on gold
Sport for the final time. You're probably taking the red
or gun with you on Saturday, taking that seat home
with you. You deserve and mate all the best for
the call.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Thank you, Eddie, you be very lucky this year with
a Super Rugby Final with the Crusaders and now an
NBC Final here and christ Church as well. Cannot wait.
It should be a doozy laugh out loud with a
proud because life on the land can be a laughing matter.
Brought to us by sheer well data working to help
(08:49):
the livestock farmer.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
What's iris and stays out all night Hettio furniture good
and finally as well, just shout out to the way
keek a man who under lang Shield and Gold for
the first time in twenty five years. So well done, guys.
That's us for the afternoon. I mean youbew it we
hear about this alliance. Result tomorrow will be all over it.
Enjoy the afternoon, stay wrapped up, See you tomorrow with
(09:14):
my hell
Welcome back to the muster on Hakanuid Now if you're
looking for hardy, easycre rams, the Fiveview Ram Open Day
is happening on Thursday, October the thirtieth from one PU
onwards at five Yew which is thirteen eighteen Waitahuna West Road,
Lawrence Finding Rodney's, Rodney Texas and stuff Texas on display,
take the IVF, have a yarn, go and talk about
(00:27):
your Ram options for next season. That's with the five
View Ram Open Day happening Thursday, October the thirtieth. As
we catch up with the news dogs MBS Nick Bewley, Nick,
good afternoon. Do you need a few rams to graze
the stadium of yours when it finishes up next week?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Might do? Actually, Andy here, good afternoon, tou. There's a
little bit of uncertainty around the future of our elongated
temporary stadium at Addington, whether it's going to return to
I don't know, a sort of recreational use for the community,
or whether it we'll just go the highest bidder and
we'll see some more medium density housing shoot up in
(01:03):
that area of christ Church. But yeah, the time being,
well the decision makes swept around that. After this Provincial
Final at the weekend between Cannabury and Otagia. We might
take a couple of rams to keep the field in
good shape.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
The Polo Projects Stadium, how will it be remembered in
christ Church because we never forget, well, we never forget
what Lancaster Park was like. But this has been a stadium.
But I suppose has served its purpose in between Takaha.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, I think it's going to have quite a confused legacy,
if you're like or a conflicting legacy, because let's face it,
Without it, where would the Crusaders and where would Canterbury
Rugby have gone? Rugby Park their training base. There has
been the odd game there, but it's far too small,
so they needed somewhere to go. They couldn't return to
(01:49):
Lancaster Park course. So it has served a really important purpose.
Since the earthquakes in twenty eleven, however, I think there's
been increasing stration, particularly given the delays to the new
stadium which will finally open in April next year, and
the match day experience that you do have in Addington.
(02:10):
Let's not forgetting it. It is sort of held together
by scaff and the like, and it rattles and it's
pretty tough going, particularly in winter. So yeah, I think
there won't be many people who will miss it. But
I think on the whole people will remember it as
serving a really important purpose because, as I say, without it,
(02:33):
I don't know what it would mean the Crusaders and
cannab we probably have to go play at a bunch
of different clubs around the region just to have home games.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Kenterbury versus Otago in the NPC Final, it's a remake
of two thousand and one where redo, I should say
both teams arguably and pretty good form. Well they're in
the final, so it goes about saying but this match
could actually be defined as a classic. For my opinion,
I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah. I was very fortunate to commentate the Cannabury Otago
Ranfilly Shield game about a month or so ago on
gold Sport and that was an absolute barn berner, a
targo of course getting the job done. They came back
late and won that one by I think it was
two points in they might have been thirty eight thirty six,
held onto the Ranfilly Shield and locked that away for
the summer. I think it's two teams who go about
(03:21):
their style of rugby in slightly different ways. For Canterbury,
it's all about a suffocating defense and dominance up in
the carry, the clean and the collision through their forward pack.
As we saw on the weekend Hawks they were you know,
they were there or thereabouts in the first half, but
just completely blind away in the second, whereas Otago, I
(03:44):
think almost everyone's second team by the sounds of things
around the office and grossier dandy. The way they're going
about the style of rugby, very entertaining product. They're willing
to shift the ball attack from deep within their own half.
They've got this incredibly exciting young halfback that everyone's talking
about Dylan Pledger, and the open side flanker to Lucas
(04:05):
Casey I think is a serious talent, and then molded
with some real experienced players like your Jonah Nerekis and
Sam Gilbert. So I think it sets up really nicely.
Is obviously that you know the regional history and too
old foes Cannabury are targeting, and a lot of familiarity
too between the two teams. You think James Lynch's who's
(04:28):
part of the Canterbury coaching staff. He captain Otago played
almost his entire professional career down in Dunedin. And then
you've got first year Otigo head coach Mark Brown who's
based up here in christ Church and was formerly a
Cannabury NPC co coach with Reuben Thorn. So there's a
lot on the line. It all shapes really nicely for
(04:49):
the Saturday I just hope there's a bumper crowded. Last
time I checked this morning, six thousand tickets already pre sold,
which would I reckon exceed the crowd that was there
on Saturday night for that semi final. So if we
can get north of ten thousand, that's got to be
the hope. They can fit about fifteen thousand in there
would be great to see that sold outside pop up
(05:11):
before Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Now you gave me the tip earlier out of the
season back around Dylan Pledge duram watching him explode onto
the scene the way that he has. But why has
he missed out on selection for the av for the
New Zealand A side.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah it's a good question, isn't it Because for mine,
he already, even though he hasn't played Super rugby, would
have to be one of the top six half backs
in the country. It's an interesting balancing act. This All
Blacks fifteen, This New Zealand B side, if you like,
given its coach by Jamie Joseph, who will also be
Dylan Pledge's super rugby coach for the Highlanders in season
(05:45):
twenty twenty six. So the official line was that Dylan
Pledger is still very young in his rugby journey. The
preference for the Jamie Joseph and the preference for all
the way up for the All Blacks coaches is that
Dylan Pledges of full super raby preseason under his belt
back home and is ready to fire from the word
(06:07):
going super rugby next year. I kind of understand it,
but sometimes you know, if we cast our minds all
the way back to a young Richie McCoy who didn't
play super rugby before he played for the All Blacks,
just came straight off an MPC campaign, sometimes he just
got to look at talent and say, if you're old enough,
you're good enough. And for me at least I would
have loved to see him board the plane next week
(06:29):
on that All Blacks fifteen tour alas we're going to
see him in this NPC final on Saturday, and we're
going to hear his name for a long time to come.
I don't want to put too much pressure on the
young man, but for me anyway, Andy, we're two years
out from a World Cup. We've got a fantastic half
back already the All Blacks and Cameron Royguard. But it
would not shock me Dylan pledged by that point be
(06:51):
twenty two years old for that World Cup in Australia.
If he's in the mix already, such as his talent
and the rise already from the New Yelling under twenty
ranks to completely dominating NPC level, I can see them
just shooting the lights out in super rugby and going
all the way to being a very good All Black.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Just finally, the Black camps against England playing short form
at the moment before the fifty over variety kicks off
sooner than later. But unfortunately the weather gods aren't playing
ball as they aren't around the country in a lot
of instances at the moment. And I don't know, scheduling
cricket for New Zealand and October seems a bit bizarre.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, They're hands are tight, are a little bit, aren't they? Andy?
Where you know that's such as the dominance and proliferation
of franchise T twenty cricket around the country, around the world,
I should say, you know they're struggling to sort of
fit in around those schedules in terms of getting marquee
nations like Australia and England. But you're absolutely right. Yeah,
(07:47):
it's a real risk and reward dance to schedule any
cricket in October, such as the volatility of the weather.
We've found that here in christ Church a Saturday night's
game of course being abandoned by run Chase there for
the black Cats tonight, the forecast I am pleased to
say it looks slightly bitter, there is the odd chance
of a shower, but we should get in all of
(08:10):
or if not, just a couple of minor disruptions for
the second T twenty. But you would hope down the
line we can get back to it genuinely being a
summer of.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Cricket, Nick Buy, we can hear your commentaries on gold
Sport for the final time. You're probably taking the red
or gun with you on Saturday, taking that seat home
with you. You deserve and mate all the best for
the call.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Thank you, Eddie, you be very lucky this year with
a Super Rugby Final with the Crusaders and now an
NBC Final here and christ Church as well. Cannot wait.
It should be a doozy laugh out loud with a
proud because life on the land can be a laughing matter.
Brought to us by sheer well data working to help
(08:49):
the livestock farmer.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
What's iris and stays out all night Hettio furniture good
and finally as well, just shout out to the way
keek a man who under lang Shield and Gold for
the first time in twenty five years. So well done, guys.
That's us for the afternoon. I mean youbew it we
hear about this alliance. Result tomorrow will be all over it.
Enjoy the afternoon, stay wrapped up, See you tomorrow with
(09:14):
my hell
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