September 24, 2025 • 9 mins
Sean Molloy looks at the pork industry which seems to be in a good place at the moment.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This interview brought to you by Agriss into South Branches
in Lawnville, Gore, Cromwell, Milton and ranfully dropped by your
local Agress into South Branch today a way out to
Sheffield this afternoon on the muster to catch up with
their pig farming correspondent Sean malloy. He's faced at Sheffield, Sean,
Good afternoon. How's everything up in Kennery, Thesavo.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yeah, good, thanks Andy, yess. Sunshining and not a lot
of winds, so we're happy now.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I believe up there has been the polar opposite weather
that what we've had down here in the Deep South.
You guys have been having hideous North Westers for weeks
on their temperatures going into twenty five plus degrees.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, it's been pretty warm and yeah, a really strong winds,
so we're all getting a bit getting a bit sick
of it. And she's dried things out a week bit too.
So yeah, wondering what sort of season we're going to
get now.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Well, we spoke to you a couple of months ago.
What's the season been like since then? Shawn?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, we started out pretty wet and the very start
of winter and we thought, oh should here he goes
it's going to be a wet winter. But that was
sort of it, really, and it's been. It's been fairly dry.
Really been a nice winter, so yeah, I can't complain
on that front. And carving has been brilliant.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
As far as grasscovers and everything you're reckon, you're getting
starting to get a little bit on the dry side.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, mate, Just things haven't kicked away, you know, I
think that. Yeah, that wind's been so hard out I
think people just it's just allway a bit tight to
feed at the moment. We haven't really kicked away but
the irrigation and that's back on now. But in these
big winds you've got to be a bit brave to
face them out of the breeze and let them run,
(01:44):
Otherwise the money en up with them upside down. So yeah,
it's a bit of a double edged sword.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So these winds have started earlier than previous seasons.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
No, it's pretty typical at this time of year. You
normally normally get a couple of three weeks of heavy winds,
just that sort of spring spring equinox sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Now, as far as the pork side of things, there
like we say, you've got a piggery up there. Everything
seems to be ticking over pretty well.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, yep, no, we're going pretty good. Thanks. Yeah, the
price has been flat right through last twelve months, so
yeah we're yeah, it's going pretty good. But trying to
get a few cost pictures in that now, so I'm
just got to be a bit mindful of that. But no,
we're in pretty good heart.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
So on farm inflation starting to kick in again, is
that what you're saying?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, just bits and pieces. A you're still that inflation
pressure of the year, I think A. So yeah, it's
not that much fun.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
As far as pricing for pork, we were to be
at the moment for kilo, we're.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Well, it depends what size you're selling them. We sell
bigger ones. We're sort of about five five thirty five
wikilo and if they're a bit smaller than you might
be up to five sixty five sevening.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
So just on a whole, the industry seems to be
in reasonable heart then, all things considered, because you are
a smaller industry in New Zealand as.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Well, Yeah, absolutely we are. But no, in general we're
pretty good. But you know, every time We've talked about
this for the last two or three years. We're still
waiting on a wealthier code, so you know, that's I
guess that's part of the reason what we're still in
good heart. No one, we haven't had any extra supply
coming and flooding the market or anything like that or
(03:20):
putting ourselves out of balance so to speak.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, I was going to stare away from the day
week code, sure on because we now spent a bony
contention no pun intended there with the pork industry. So
we're no further ahead.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
No, we're still sitting waiting. So yeah, I don't know.
We just we've just got to head down, just keep
moving forward and keeping you know, will things are fairly
well in good heart, just spending money on keeping things
maintained how we are, and just making plans for what
we what we might need to do next. Really so yeah,
(03:54):
it's a bit frustrating, but you just sort of just
sort of get on with what you can do what
you can do with what you can But it.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Has taken so long to get these recommendations to come through.
Was it almost a case of it could be like
this for the next eighteen twenty four months even.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I don't think so from what we're hearing the vire
But it's really it's just some of the oddities in
the way that the acts written that the Minister has
to make sure that there's not going to be a
legal challenge from either side if they don't quite get
it right or other each side's not happy with what
(04:32):
comes out on the coat, so which is you know,
we don't want to put something out and then be
tied up for ages in a legal dispute which would
go on for another eighteen twenty four months while they
try and sort that out through the courts.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
But I don't think I've heard of anything that's ridiculous
as a pork industry trying to get confirmation from Naywik
regarding regulation for an industry. I mean, like you say,
this has been going on for so long. It's just
it's worse than taking the mickey.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, but this is what happens when you put the
wrong people in the room to decide to a welfare
code and you're involved too many people that don't know
anything about what you do. I mean, it seems more
important to have people outside the industry so you're independent,
who know nothing about it and level the real stakeholders
that run the industry out in the cold, and you
(05:22):
get shit results. And I mean we're seeing that we're
not the only code. I think every code's had some
real issues this time around with the wrong people being
in the room.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Would you say the poork industry is well supported in
the efficacy space?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yep, yep?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I think so who would you have there, for example,
sticking up for the industry.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
You mean, in the government and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I'm thinking more just like, so you've got your beef
and leaves, your dairy, and z's everybody else on the
lowest level, who would you guys have there to work with?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeh know, we're definitely involved in that. And there's a
few Lincolns there with with the red meat industry. And
I can't think off the top of my head what
the groups are, but we're in the air and I think,
you know, as this process has gone along, you know,
the other industries don't know a lot about the ORG industry,
but I think they've found out a bit more about
what we do and and realize that, you know, we
(06:13):
know what we're talking about, and we're facing some of
the issues that are now coming to the fore for
beef and lamb and dairy that we've been facing for
us in the chicken industry for a couple of decades now.
So yeah, you're getting a bit more support, but then
you have that import export tension where they might be
(06:34):
in support of us, but they don't want to say
too much so that they've got to protect their export industry.
So it's it's a real difficult one. So you know,
everybody's going to look after their own camper, but.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Without using a part it's a case the chickens coming
home to hatch for the other sectors.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, I don't like to think of it like that.
It's just we're getting so many people and well meaning
people that don't know anything involved in our industries and
it's just it's right through from environment to animal welfare.
It's just poor, poor decisions and sky is falling sort
of stuff happening pain they are as far.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
As the pork industry though, Eric Croiz finished up as
the chair for New Zealand Pork Paul Butcknell's taking over
the reins there, so some quality people you do have
involved up at the top.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, we've got some good continuity going there. Eric was
a really good man at the right time. He was
really well linked in for government. He was just some
great service for our industry. So yeah, no, we're hopefully
at the moment we're in pretty good shape.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
You talk about continuity, You've got to put this one on.
You're the MPC Kennibury. You have this shield. You managed
to hold it for two weeks, Well done, Stags? Can
it for one week? Did it mean anything to you though,
being a rugby fan having the shield in the region
short or does it just get lost in translation in
an area that just has success so often like Cannerbury?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, mate, were it's used to winning everything? Not really.
I think Super Rugby's taken away from from the Logerwood.
I think it means more for the players that are involved,
because you know they understand what it's about. But that
used to be the premier year I guess trophy for us,
But now with Super Rugby, I guess it's that level up,
(08:21):
so it's not quite the same. I don't reckon it
doesn't have the same manner personally, I believe I could
be wrong.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Are you a tempted to be become a ticket? A
ticket season holder at TKAHA the new stadium and it
opens next year.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Oh yeah, fresh team today. It's going to be awesome.
I can't wait. Finally get a decent a decent stadium
and you know, concerts, the whole thing. That's really going
to give christ which in the whole region a real
good kick in the pants. It's going to be great.
I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Well, the add Engine Showgrounds there was supposed to be
a drop, a temporary measure. I think it's been there
since like twenty ten. So yeah, you guys certainly deserve
it because christ Church is certainly a city that's going
forward and leaps and bounds. Is Kennedy saw malloy always
appreciate your time on the Master.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Go on, Andy, Thanks mate, Sean malloy.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Pig farming up there at Sheffield. This is the Master
and the Beef and Lamb slot. Next we catch up
with Jenna McCabe where it's going up before
This interview brought to you by Agriss into South Branches
in Lawnville, Gore, Cromwell, Milton and ranfully dropped by your
local Agress into South Branch today a way out to
Sheffield this afternoon on the muster to catch up with
their pig farming correspondent Sean malloy. He's faced at Sheffield, Sean,
Good afternoon. How's everything up in Kennery, Thesavo.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yeah, good, thanks Andy, yess. Sunshining and not a lot
of winds, so we're happy now.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I believe up there has been the polar opposite weather
that what we've had down here in the Deep South.
You guys have been having hideous North Westers for weeks
on their temperatures going into twenty five plus degrees.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, it's been pretty warm and yeah, a really strong winds,
so we're all getting a bit getting a bit sick
of it. And she's dried things out a week bit too.
So yeah, wondering what sort of season we're going to
get now.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Well, we spoke to you a couple of months ago.
What's the season been like since then? Shawn?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, we started out pretty wet and the very start
of winter and we thought, oh should here he goes
it's going to be a wet winter. But that was
sort of it, really, and it's been. It's been fairly dry.
Really been a nice winter, so yeah, I can't complain
on that front. And carving has been brilliant.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
As far as grasscovers and everything you're reckon, you're getting
starting to get a little bit on the dry side.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, mate, Just things haven't kicked away, you know, I
think that. Yeah, that wind's been so hard out I
think people just it's just allway a bit tight to
feed at the moment. We haven't really kicked away but
the irrigation and that's back on now. But in these
big winds you've got to be a bit brave to
face them out of the breeze and let them run,
(01:44):
Otherwise the money en up with them upside down. So yeah,
it's a bit of a double edged sword.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So these winds have started earlier than previous seasons.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
No, it's pretty typical at this time of year. You
normally normally get a couple of three weeks of heavy winds,
just that sort of spring spring equinox sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Now, as far as the pork side of things, there
like we say, you've got a piggery up there. Everything
seems to be ticking over pretty well.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, yep, no, we're going pretty good. Thanks. Yeah, the
price has been flat right through last twelve months, so
yeah we're yeah, it's going pretty good. But trying to
get a few cost pictures in that now, so I'm
just got to be a bit mindful of that. But no,
we're in pretty good heart.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
So on farm inflation starting to kick in again, is
that what you're saying?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, just bits and pieces. A you're still that inflation
pressure of the year, I think A. So yeah, it's
not that much fun.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
As far as pricing for pork, we were to be
at the moment for kilo, we're.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Well, it depends what size you're selling them. We sell
bigger ones. We're sort of about five five thirty five
wikilo and if they're a bit smaller than you might
be up to five sixty five sevening.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
So just on a whole, the industry seems to be
in reasonable heart then, all things considered, because you are
a smaller industry in New Zealand as.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Well, Yeah, absolutely we are. But no, in general we're
pretty good. But you know, every time We've talked about
this for the last two or three years. We're still
waiting on a wealthier code, so you know, that's I
guess that's part of the reason what we're still in
good heart. No one, we haven't had any extra supply
coming and flooding the market or anything like that or
(03:20):
putting ourselves out of balance so to speak.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, I was going to stare away from the day
week code, sure on because we now spent a bony
contention no pun intended there with the pork industry. So
we're no further ahead.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
No, we're still sitting waiting. So yeah, I don't know.
We just we've just got to head down, just keep
moving forward and keeping you know, will things are fairly
well in good heart, just spending money on keeping things
maintained how we are, and just making plans for what
we what we might need to do next. Really so yeah,
(03:54):
it's a bit frustrating, but you just sort of just
sort of get on with what you can do what
you can do with what you can But it.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Has taken so long to get these recommendations to come through.
Was it almost a case of it could be like
this for the next eighteen twenty four months even.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I don't think so from what we're hearing the vire
But it's really it's just some of the oddities in
the way that the acts written that the Minister has
to make sure that there's not going to be a
legal challenge from either side if they don't quite get
it right or other each side's not happy with what
(04:32):
comes out on the coat, so which is you know,
we don't want to put something out and then be
tied up for ages in a legal dispute which would
go on for another eighteen twenty four months while they
try and sort that out through the courts.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
But I don't think I've heard of anything that's ridiculous
as a pork industry trying to get confirmation from Naywik
regarding regulation for an industry. I mean, like you say,
this has been going on for so long. It's just
it's worse than taking the mickey.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, but this is what happens when you put the
wrong people in the room to decide to a welfare
code and you're involved too many people that don't know
anything about what you do. I mean, it seems more
important to have people outside the industry so you're independent,
who know nothing about it and level the real stakeholders
that run the industry out in the cold, and you
(05:22):
get shit results. And I mean we're seeing that we're
not the only code. I think every code's had some
real issues this time around with the wrong people being
in the room.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Would you say the poork industry is well supported in
the efficacy space?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yep, yep?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I think so who would you have there, for example,
sticking up for the industry.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
You mean, in the government and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I'm thinking more just like, so you've got your beef
and leaves, your dairy, and z's everybody else on the
lowest level, who would you guys have there to work with?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeh know, we're definitely involved in that. And there's a
few Lincolns there with with the red meat industry. And
I can't think off the top of my head what
the groups are, but we're in the air and I think,
you know, as this process has gone along, you know,
the other industries don't know a lot about the ORG industry,
but I think they've found out a bit more about
what we do and and realize that, you know, we
(06:13):
know what we're talking about, and we're facing some of
the issues that are now coming to the fore for
beef and lamb and dairy that we've been facing for
us in the chicken industry for a couple of decades now.
So yeah, you're getting a bit more support, but then
you have that import export tension where they might be
(06:34):
in support of us, but they don't want to say
too much so that they've got to protect their export industry.
So it's it's a real difficult one. So you know,
everybody's going to look after their own camper, but.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Without using a part it's a case the chickens coming
home to hatch for the other sectors.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, I don't like to think of it like that.
It's just we're getting so many people and well meaning
people that don't know anything involved in our industries and
it's just it's right through from environment to animal welfare.
It's just poor, poor decisions and sky is falling sort
of stuff happening pain they are as far.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
As the pork industry though, Eric Croiz finished up as
the chair for New Zealand Pork Paul Butcknell's taking over
the reins there, so some quality people you do have
involved up at the top.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, we've got some good continuity going there. Eric was
a really good man at the right time. He was
really well linked in for government. He was just some
great service for our industry. So yeah, no, we're hopefully
at the moment we're in pretty good shape.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
You talk about continuity, You've got to put this one on.
You're the MPC Kennibury. You have this shield. You managed
to hold it for two weeks, Well done, Stags? Can
it for one week? Did it mean anything to you though,
being a rugby fan having the shield in the region
short or does it just get lost in translation in
an area that just has success so often like Cannerbury?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, mate, were it's used to winning everything? Not really.
I think Super Rugby's taken away from from the Logerwood.
I think it means more for the players that are involved,
because you know they understand what it's about. But that
used to be the premier year I guess trophy for us,
But now with Super Rugby, I guess it's that level up,
(08:21):
so it's not quite the same. I don't reckon it
doesn't have the same manner personally, I believe I could
be wrong.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Are you a tempted to be become a ticket? A
ticket season holder at TKAHA the new stadium and it
opens next year.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Oh yeah, fresh team today. It's going to be awesome.
I can't wait. Finally get a decent a decent stadium
and you know, concerts, the whole thing. That's really going
to give christ which in the whole region a real
good kick in the pants. It's going to be great.
I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Well, the add Engine Showgrounds there was supposed to be
a drop, a temporary measure. I think it's been there
since like twenty ten. So yeah, you guys certainly deserve
it because christ Church is certainly a city that's going
forward and leaps and bounds. Is Kennedy saw malloy always
appreciate your time on the Master.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Go on, Andy, Thanks mate, Sean malloy.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Pig farming up there at Sheffield. This is the Master
and the Beef and Lamb slot. Next we catch up
with Jenna McCabe where it's going up before
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