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August 25, 2025 45 mins

Andy Muir talks to Nigel Woodhead, Andy Caughey, Grant McMaster, Dave Burgess, Isla Pringle and Andrew Martin.

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Good afternoon, and welcome to the muster on Hakanui. I'm
Andy myoy here until two o'clock thanks to Peter's genetics
with that harmonica field intro there from Supertramp. Welcome along
to the muster. Blue sky in abundance over Main Street
here in Gore. Look at the weather shortly getting a
little bit cooler over the weekend. For the next couple
of days in particular looking pretty good.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
The proof is in the progeny Teffron dot co dot mz.
Speaking of weather, this afternoon sunny are like northwesterlyes at
a higher fourteen Wednesday cloudy, You're breezy north easterly six
and thirteen Thursday partly cloudy. We're breezy northwesterly six and
fifteen Friday shells of breezy westerlies one in ten and
on Saturday raig with northwesterlyies.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
One and ninth.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
So term just a hand Clinton six point six, Northern
South and five point nine Riveton eight point five to
now six. Shout out the base of ninety point four
a FM Winton five point eight Woodland's six point nine
Nigel would Head Farms in South Otago between Burcluther and
Winton and joins us to kick off the hour. Then
Andy Cooey talking on behalf of will impact. There's a

(01:25):
couple of meetings happening in the South over the next
couple of days regarding the future of the wool industry
and Andy's urging you all to get along there if
you've got skin in the game regarding wool sheep farming
and the likes to come along and listen at these meetings.
So pretty much just give a run down on why
he thinks that farmers need to attend these meetings for
the sake of the wool industry. Dave Bridges from Environment

(01:48):
Southland Talks Rooks is that time of year again, Grant
Disaster Viecmaster from Close Briens Station has he yarn and
then in the Young Farmer's segment Eyler Pringle from the
Nightcats Club and we start the hour with nigera Woodhead.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
The Masters on the Farm brought to you by Southland
District Council working together for a better Southland.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Niger what head farms in South Otago between Clother and
Milton and joins us skid aide nigell things.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
Yeah, things are pretty good today.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
Suner's shining a little bit cooler.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Hearing go first thing. That's blue sky now and that's
pretty much the perfect Dean to August.

Speaker 7 (02:36):
Yeah, things are things are taken along pretty well actually,
although I'm not I'm not not on farmers. We speak
them just sitting on the main drag and Milton actually
giving Leanne, giving Leanne hand to do some sign riding
on the butchers and Milkham. They're doing a rebrand, so
I'm playing sign rider today.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
No, you're a man of many talents, not to be underestimated.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
Yeah, yeah, well when when Leanne to do.

Speaker 7 (03:00):
He been wedding styling and all that sort of bits
and pieces of the farmer during the week and wedding
styleist and knocking around at weddings during the during the
weekend sometimes in the summer as well. So it's good
and it's quite like I actually quite enjoy it. It's
something different to farming, and you know, it's a good
week business for the end. She tacksway and does that
and gives me something else to do when when she's

(03:23):
got jobs on, I can give her a head. That's
quite good.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
So how's your grass looking for the end of the month.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
We're looking really good. Actually, yep, yep, we.

Speaker 8 (03:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (03:32):
Things I couldn't tell you whatever cover is, but yeah,
we're looking looking really good. We've got plenty of attacker
around the I always recon sometime in August, your panic
about how are you going to get through the seat
of stock. And he's always a period of time where
you say, oh, I don't eve enough to feed, and
I'm going to have to break all the rules and
do this and that. You know, this year, we've sort

(03:52):
of always been able to see a path in front
of us. You know, even though the feed budgets is
we're good, you're ways panic a webit. But this year,
you know, you could see the feed in front. I
knew where things were going to go and what was
going to happen for the next few weeks. We'll sit stocking.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
So that's a good sign. It means we're yeah.

Speaker 7 (04:12):
So they've got one to got the autumn management right
and got window management right, and us are looking really good.
Singles or head through the yards this afternoon and get
their prelam animal health and get drafted. Into their seat
stocking lines, and then go back here and we'll set
stock and probably another week ten days time here.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Farmers are always fussy about their covers though.

Speaker 7 (04:34):
Oh yeah, it's one of those things, especially this time
of year. You can well, I was going to say,
you can never have too much grass. You sort of
can a weave it like you. You want to have
plenty of feed landing onto really good covers so that
those lambs get up and away they'll a good start.
But at the same time as you end up too
much feed, you know, and then and then you get
into September and it warms up and grass really takes

(04:54):
off or you never get it back. So there's a
bit of a fine balancing act between getting enough feet
to seat stark on but not having too much. There's
the quality issue. You're steering down the barrel of a
quality issue. So we're yeah, we're looking we're looking pretty good.
I think the google we'll be able to spread use
out on the pretty good covers, and you know, they're

(05:15):
in pretty good mach so hopefully we can turn that
into good winning weights.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
So what have you got left on winder crops? Now?

Speaker 7 (05:20):
Just a few kettle that singles come off this morning
off the suite. There was a few here and for
sweet bobs there, So I'll probably throw the rams out
there or something, just a tidy d mat and kettle
on for a bat. Yeah, and they've probably got another
month or so on their fort a beat, which is
good because we're just running around grazing all the full
rotation blocks now hooggots and twins. So we'll get them

(05:44):
tidied up and knock back in the line and then
in a month or so it's time when the balls
come off the beat. They'll be have plenty of feed.
They're ready to go on to the spring rotations.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
And let's not forgetting over the past thirty six months
throughout the seasons, you've had really trying times there as
far as getting these covers. So going through into September,
with the way things are at the moment, what does
it mean for you?

Speaker 7 (06:07):
Oh no, yeah, I think there have been like we've
had a few dry summers in there, and it's sort
of been a bit challenging. But I'll tell you what,
winter's winters seem to be getting easier and easier. Yeah,
and it's sort of this year if this year's winter
was what we're going to get good. I'll take it,
you know, like it was a dream winter and I

(06:29):
know full well that it's not realistic at some stage,
will get another week cold bugger, but you know it's
yeah summers, summers are getting tougher, but winters are getting easier.
So you just have to tweet your management to suit it,
you know, like we're putting a bit more summer crop
and too to try and tie us through the dry
times and still be able to finish as many lambs

(06:51):
as we can and keep weight on news. So but yeah,
I'm pretty stoked just with where my body condition is
on the US and we scan really eld this year,
so I'm really happy with that. And and then your
covers are pretty good stuff. We can the challenge now
we'll be getting getting that lemming percentage to be where

(07:12):
it needs to be, you know, try and aiming for
that one fifty odd and then from tailing to weaning
it will be all about winning weights. So hopefully we
can convert good body condition and your good scanning into
land numbers at tailing and land weights at what you.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Tended to get the iron horse out of the shed
and turn over some worms before September proper.

Speaker 7 (07:33):
I was thinking of thinking about that use Today, I
don't think, well, I don't think we'll open anything up,
but we'll just probably the ear eider I reckon. It's
quite good to get on and get the europe get
the ear aiding done. Is as Susan, you're on the pedic,
get that everything lifted up and opened up, and then
we know you get a dry, dry pitch in September

(07:54):
or something. You might be able to get one pedic
knocked down and get it into something or something early
for bailage. But we'll say, I don't think we our oats,
oats and grass crops last you yielded about cost what
we were budgeting, so we've got we've still got bailage
of best leave. So we'll probably put a pedic a
solid whole crops oligin this year, and you maybe save

(08:18):
a couple of backs and not put so much of
the oats and for bailorge and just go straight and
thro the summer crops or young grass. So that's what
I'm thinking. I'ven't got it completely nailed down now.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
You're a pretty pragmatic individual.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Nigel.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Heading into the busy time on farm.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
What's one piece of advice you got for listeners out
there when they things start getting tight, I.

Speaker 7 (08:40):
Mean springtime, you know it's coming. It's it's always busy
every year. So for me, it's, you know, make sure
we've got good plans in place, and try and do
as much work as you can during the week and
then I try and make sure I've got some time
to hang out with the family and the kids and
spend some time with yourself on the weekend. And one
thing it's really benefit of me is having like just

(09:03):
taking some time to make the weekend the weekend, because
if you work all day and all night all week
and then all weekend as well, just needs to drag on.
So just just try and put yourself in a position
where you can take some time in the weekend to yeah,
sort of deep relaxed debrief, but make make at least

(09:25):
part of the weekend the weekend you can chill out
for a wee bit and then Monday reset, start again
and go edit.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
So these work to be done.

Speaker 7 (09:32):
You've got to get the work done. And it's a
busy timing year. Everybody's in the.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
Same boat there, But.

Speaker 7 (09:38):
Yeah, I and the other thing was that I'll making
the week in the weekend thing as a kids appreciate
it to spend spend a week at the time, even
it's just half a day hanging out with them, making
making sure they know they spend some time with their
old men and get him to hang out and do
some fun stuff as well as as well as going
to work.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Good on I'd always appreciate your time on the Muster.
On Tuesday, Nigel Wadhead with some words of wisdom ahead
of September.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Andy Coy's up next. He's involved with Will Impact.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
A couple of meetings coming up tomorrow in the South
regarding the wool industry. Welcome back to the Muster. Andy

(10:35):
Coy is chief executive of Wool Impact. There's a couple
of meetings happening down here in the South over the
next couple of days regarding the state of the wool industry. Andy,
welcome to the Muster. Good morning, and the state of
wool how do we fix it to be blunt?

Speaker 5 (10:53):
It's no mean task.

Speaker 6 (10:56):
It's a challenge, but Wool Impact has been stood up
by the government and five of the meat companies and
will works to restore the profitability of the strong wall sector.
So we're here as an organization facilitating change, and one
of the fundamental things that we're undertaking is moving us
from our commodesty approach to transacting will to segmenting it

(11:18):
into market categories and connecting with brands both on shore,
domestically in New Zealand and internationally. And so these road
shows are an opportunity for growers who you know, there's
a lot of skepticism around there around the future will,
but we're actually very excited because we've identified new market

(11:39):
opportunities that are outside the normal categories where WILL is transacted.
And what we're doing through these four grower meetings is
sharing with growers what's possible if we worked collectively together
and look at a values based supply chain, connecting with
brands domestically and internationally, back to growers and growth groups here.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
In New Zealand.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
You said, then facilitating change, does that refer to the
story about New Zealand will overseas to the consumer.

Speaker 6 (12:11):
That's a part of it, but actually it's finding markets
that are relevant and appropriate for wool. What we've identified
through our market insights is that the will's wakening up
to the issues that are associated with human health associated
with microplastics and voc So there's a human human health

(12:34):
aspect and there's also environmental component of what synthetics are
doing to our environment. Now, we've Identity specifically targeted the
commercial office centterials because that's where they're seeing up to
fifty percent of Americans have health and ailments that are
associated with the materials that they surround themselves and their offices.

(12:55):
So we've said, look what was actually part of a solution.
You can create cleanness, safer, healthier work environments and home
environments by surrounding yourself with natural fibers, and we believe
wool is part of that solution. So we've partnered with
a company called Gensler and Genser are the world's largest

(13:16):
architect and design agency, and they see wool as part
of their solution to getting to carbon net carbon zero
across their two billion square feet of office spaces that
they manage by twenty thirty. So for us, we're aligning
with Gencer in that commercial office environment, looking at flooring, acoustics,

(13:37):
and upholstery into a market that's completely.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
New to wool.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
So when you try to counteract synthetics, which is anywhere
and everywhere as far as clothing these days. Is that
what we need to do to about greenhouse gases and
all the effects that are happening on the environment as such, Yes, I.

Speaker 6 (13:54):
Think there's a max. We've got to look at the
positives will you know, people consumers a well in form
male around microplastics and health issues associated with synthetic materials,
and so we need to look at the positives and
look at this as a value proposition rather than a
cost Yes, well may cost a bit more, but also

(14:15):
that needs to be passed back to the growth and
what we're acknowledging. So we've got Minister Patterson coming along.
There's the Associate Minister for Agriculture, and he's going to
be talking around about the government policy of preferencing will
and government buildings. Now this was done first and foremost
to benefit the occupants in the buildings and have less

(14:36):
environmental impact.

Speaker 7 (14:38):
Just reinforcing what I said before.

Speaker 6 (14:40):
But the flow on benefit to that is that it's
going to bolster production opportunities for domestic manufacturing companies and
we're looking at doubling a domestic consumption of strovel from
fifteen thousand tons to thirty thousand tons in the next
five years. And this is working with new and innovative company,
these that have come into wool because they see it

(15:02):
as a natural fiber solution. The recourse of all that
is that you're going to have an increase in command
and value for our strong wolf.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
And do you think we can look at bipartisan agreement
in parliament regarding will and government buildings. I mean it
sounds good in theory. Are we to change in governments
and all of a sudden the script can change?

Speaker 6 (15:23):
No, this is it's across all parties. All parties have
have supported this bill. We're now transacting. Kangora has placed
their first contract with Bremworth and that's going into nine
hundred homes. So this is happening, it's real, it's live.
It was introduced by the government in April, it was

(15:44):
implemented on the first of July, and we're transacting now.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
So if the sheep and bee farm are listening to this,
who's given up on cross crossbred wall endy, what would
you say to them?

Speaker 6 (15:54):
Hang far, come and listen to our presentations. Because we've
got people repped coming along to these grow meetings with
a pathway from brands through the value chain through to
growers explaining what they're doing to connect you as a farmer,
to international markets and to these domestic brands. And these

(16:18):
are brands that are wanting to align with recognize growers,
and they want traceability, transparency and they want to build relationships.
So coming back to your point earlier, Andy, there is
an opportunity to tell our New Zealand Strongwold story. But
in addition to that, they're wanting product with real integrity.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
So these meetings over the next couple of days and
the times for them in the locations.

Speaker 6 (16:45):
The first two meetings are tomorrow in SOUTHLD We're at
the Weimer Harker Community Center from nine thirty to eleven
thirty and then in the Moster And Community Center from
two thirty to four point thirty. And then we've got
two more meetings on Thursday in Dale Cluther at nine
thirty and in Middle March at two thirty. So look,

(17:07):
welcome people to come along. We're there to be challenged.
We want growers to believe feeling inspired that there's actually
a whole lot of investment and initiatives underway at the
moment that had been being being created and established in
support of the strong wall sector. So we're very positive,
but we want growers to come along and listen and

(17:30):
understand what we're presenting to help them justify their decision
for starting with.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Will Andy Coy, thanks very much for your time on
the Master this afternoon.

Speaker 5 (17:39):
Thanks Andy.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Again.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Andy Coy of.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Will impact those meeting times again tomorrow won a Harky
Community Center at nine thirty in the morning, Mosburn Community
Center two thirty in the Avo. And on Thursday Bell
Clother at the Town and Country Club at nine thirty
and Middle March Community Center at two thirty up next
away to close Briend Station.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Grant Disaster mc master, London.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
This is the muster the logical song for a logical
man whose name is Grant Disaster mc master and joins
us weekly at a close briend station thanks to Abbi
rural Gide.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
Grant good, Andy Good, everybody.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
How's life in the basin life?

Speaker 4 (18:28):
The life in the basemin is very good. Since we
spoke last week, the snow disappeared and it has frozen
that We've had really severe frost every night, but beautiful day.
So got the us shorn On Thursday Friday, got the
scanning done on Saturday, and so feeding the bailey and

(18:48):
the baillage, and they're obviously not wasting a bit of anything,
so it doesn't it's not it. You don't get a
better system than this when the weather's right for our
circumstances anyway.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
So it hasn't been wet, it's just been the frost season.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah. Yeah, and you know, water water freezing, and the
lake froze again for a couple of nights. So he
had really really really heavy frost, but good day. So
not much grass growth, but at this stage it's probably
part of the course. But you know, the utilization of
the off the feed is it's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
So you managed to get the scanning and the sharing
all done.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yeah, we got that done. So we yeah, put the
mustard off for one day that we we mustered up
that that last day I was speaking to you, a
bit of snow, but yeah, the next night, the next
day the sheep were in and yeah, got dry sheep
for Thursday and Friday, and then we scanned on Saturday.
So that was ten percent scanning, ten percent back on

(19:49):
last year. Andy, So that's I wasn't too disappointed in
that considering the you know I was, I was a
little bit well apprehensive. I'm just wondering how it would
have been with the with the dry the dry spell
we had and you know it was very dry summer autumn,
and the not a lot of feet to come and

(20:12):
go on. Those youths aroout those stop blocks for a
bit longer than I would have liked. But the yeah,
tencent BacT we live with that, and they're all in
quite good condition. So same number of drives as last year,
about forty eight drives and but just not quite so
many many twins. But we need to get a bit

(20:33):
of growth anyway, So it might be it could ben
hell one that blows no God, but please with the
way the US have come out out of the wall
and yeah, some on the backs, it's all go.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
Hey, disaster. You want to talk about Chantam Islands today.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Now, this is a really fascinating place for a lot
of people, especially in a farming sense. I used to
go to school at Saint Kevin's. We had the Grigory
Hunts used to attend. They were based at the Pitt Islands.
But over there it's like totally different world to anything
we know.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
Yeah, well, actually the Gregory huntss are I read the
ninth generation there, so they've been there a long time.
And you know, I've spoken about the Chatnam Islands on
this great show before and I'm a little bit I
wouldn't obsessed with it, but I find it really interesting
in any any articles I you know, I enjoy reading.
And I said to you off here, we're just going

(21:23):
to put it out there now, you and I are
going to take a team over there for a farm discussion.
And what are we calling it anything?

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Armor tour? Yeah, the arm tour.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yeah, you can sort that, but out we're going to
take everyone over the Well, people better put their names
down because we're in the organize the muster tour over.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Here here here, I'm up for that. Let's get the
wheel of motion.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Let's go over to the Channel Islands for a couple
of days. What can go wrong?

Speaker 5 (21:51):
Well, no, we might have to get.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
The draft and goate out and to see who we've
got going through it. There could be a hell of
a tour, but something something worth thinking. Think about it.
It's quite a long way to go, and it's it's
not that cheap, but I think it would be a
great experience. And just think of the knowledge we could share.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
So what's your infatuation with the Chathams.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
I don't know really, it's just just as a kid,
the sort of fascinated by it. The fact that you know,
it's isolated, the shipping side that's always intrigued me, and
just the remoteness and the sort of that pioneering spirit.
But yees, so that the and I got thinking about
it because this article I read that the guy said

(22:32):
that the it's the Chatham Islands is the best place
to farm, but the worst place to sell, as in produce,
And so I read the article on and there's a
few parallel points that that's sort of working with us.
But you know, the basically on the on the Chathams
that the handbreakers the one ship they have keeps breaking down,

(22:55):
and you know then the selling government putting in to
trying to get another ship, and it's just it's just
a real it's a real problem, I guess. But they
be quite involved with Federated farmers. But in this article
they've set up a Tantham Island Farmers Association as a
catchment group to try and drive farming. They're farming industry

(23:17):
forwards and work with NPI, and they're wanting more unity
and transparency for all the farmers for the livestock quota system,
and which is obviously quite a contentious issue, which is
probably typical of all farmers that you know, you think
on a smaller place that everybody would be on the

(23:37):
on board with things, but just reading between the lines,
that may not be the case. But they so the
interesting thing is they said that this one guy's he
runs four thousand, five hundred years and four hundred cattle
on four thousand, eight hundred hectares and he has had
ninety two cattle block for the boat to be come

(24:01):
to be sold for nine months. And I thought, gee,
you know, like you know a few years ago, and
was hard for us to get cold cows away after
after winning you know, and uning water. Excuse me, you
know that was bad enough waiting four weeks, five weeks,
and in fact, for a couple of those years we

(24:21):
just sold talking of less price and sold on the place.
So you know, they don't have that, there's that luxury.
And because we're sharing. The article goes on to say
that most of them just kicked well, this guy in particular,
he just sent police over no valleys, no pieces and dif'tely,
no DAGs, and it cost one hundred and twenty dollars

(24:42):
a fail of wool shipped from the channels to the mainland.
And I mean it cost us about twenty one dollars.
I think we think that's better. Yeah, and so in
this article the Skuy's shiit he shipped. He flew lambs
to the market, So that's sort of a bit. I

(25:05):
think that's a bit of a one off. But you know,
this other guy said that he's to be able to
send you know, the boat would come on a regular basis,
they would get lambs on it and they would they
would be across the water for a few days and
then they they'd eighteen killing out an eighteen kgs carpetweight.
So you know that that was pretty good. But now

(25:27):
with the way the shippings and all that marking around,
they just send anything in the stores and then probably
can't get ridden, you know when they'd like to. So
you know, I said, we were just talking the other
day of the shed. We don't have many DAGs obviously
with six months hearing, and I said to the rounds,
I said, well, I was going in the cathole or
wending some trees. You're not going to sift them. And

(25:47):
I know it was thirty cents a k dad that
you know that concept money to send them away. So
then I read this targetle I thought, you know we're
not we ain't got too much to worry about.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Really, right, we better get this too off the ground
of is ab rural will be to be in this
somewhere as well as a subsponsor, wouldn't you say?

Speaker 4 (26:04):
Oh, definitely though it's hither it be key to that.
And you know we could take some product over there,
help them selling the book because he's not very much.
And yeah, I think people you know, knocking at the
door to get on the boat with us.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
I think, so, hey, get on your grant. We'll leave
it there for great thoughts as always.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Okay, cheers, Andy.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Grab mcmassa great playing that road trip to cheddar Milind's
a lot of road trip, Let's be honest. It might
take you we while, of course brought to your bay
Abu Ryrol. Dave Burgers from Environment South and is up next.

(26:55):
Welcome back to the Master. Dave Burgess from Environment South
and joins us. Next is that it is that time
of year. Dave, Good afternoon, Rocks, we get to do
the mighty rock call once again.

Speaker 8 (27:06):
Yeah, good afternoon, Andy, good to catch up. I thought
you might have done the rock call before the intro,
but I hope you've got it.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
I'll see how voicebox goes. It's axually not that easy
to do when you think about it. Look straight off
the cuff. We talk about rocks, a lot of awareness
around them. We've spoken about this on many an occasion.
Are we winning the battle around these birds?

Speaker 8 (27:25):
Yeah, technical we are. It's almost a success story, but
we just want to be vigilant and keep mentioning it
and talking about it. So we haven't really had them
in South and since twenty nineteen or a confirmed sighting
since twenty nineteen, so yeah, it's looking pretty good. But
it's just another example of you have being vigilant and
keeping a pet that may not be here, but keep it,

(27:46):
keeping it out of the region if it does come back.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
So what do they look like if you do see one?
What's the comparison?

Speaker 8 (27:53):
Well, they're just like a crow if you've seen them
over in Audie or Great Britain, but similar stance to
a mag pie. But they're all black. In the right light,
they might have a purple achene to them, but generally
all black. And in terms of megpie, they're probably a
third bigger than the megpie, so a lot of people
do confusing with megpies. But obviously megpies are black and white,
whereas rocks are all black. And when they fly, they've

(28:16):
got a real slow, lazy wing flap, and they're quite
a harsh call. It's a bit like a blue heron,
but yeah, quite a distinct harsh call. But yeah, they
came from Great Britain originally a lot like a lot
of things are boarding for probably good reasons at the time,
but yeah, they just turned into a bit of a
disaster over the decades and set in South or throughout
in New Zealand.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Is there any particular farming enterprise you're more than likely
to see them on.

Speaker 8 (28:42):
Yeah, Like overseas, you will see them in urban and
semi urban areas as well as Familand, but over here
and you're not likely to see that. They generally more
occupying farmland. They're a very weary bird. They don't like
sort of being around humans if you like, and they'll
try it avoid you. So yeah, it's more likely out
on the open farm land where there's big tree lanes

(29:04):
that they like to sitting on the top of those
big macro carpa pines and pines and blue gums, so
they've got a good vantage point to look at and
spot any danger that might be coming near them.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
It's what damage can they do?

Speaker 8 (29:17):
Yeah, the reason they're a pairs is particularly destructive on
new young grass and newly sown crops, So in bigger
numbers they'll go along and just pull out the sprouts
and do it quite a bit of devastation that way.
So in low numbers they don't really have a huge impact,
but we have had flocks of them throughout New Zealand
big numbers so Walks Bay had real problems Cannabury and Otago,

(29:40):
but even the Targo's down to the last small number
of birds. So yeah, it's looking pretty good. But again
we just want to highlight it and make sure people
are aware, and we do have a good sort video
on air Environment Self and Test Hub which next seam
shows what the rock looks like and how it flies
and how it sounds, so we try and encourage people

(30:01):
to look that up on their environment self and pest
hub website.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
I got the real thing this year.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
That is the sound of a rock according to YouTube.

Speaker 8 (30:13):
Yeah, it's quite a harsh call in it.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Rather, there's like a seagull after a night out on
the darries.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
So if you do see one control options, don't take
metics into your own hands.

Speaker 8 (30:25):
Get in touch with yes, Yeah, preferably because they'll say
they are very, very weary bird. So you might only
get one option or one chance to do something. And
the main options are shooting or poisoning, But it depends
on the numbers and where they are and where they're living.
So we would make that call in conjunction with the landowner.
But if it's just one or two birds, it might
be that just shooting them might be effective. But if

(30:48):
the smaller numbers or poisoning might be the better option,
depending on what the feeding are at the time. So yeah,
this time of the year, if people are out in
the bet particularly lending the carving and doing the track
to work, surely just extra sets of wives that help
help keep an eye out for them. But yeah, again,
be looking for those young grass paddics or the newly
sown crops coming up over the next few weeks or months,

(31:08):
and that's where you might find them. They love walnut
trees as well. If you've got walnut trees in the area,
it's probably a good place to find them over the
next few weeks.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Are they likely to go at lambs, No, they're not.

Speaker 8 (31:18):
No, they're not. But basically just grass grubs and invertebrates
and in the in the in the plants. It's just yeah,
there's no real damage to lambs there such and not
a scavenger, but it's just the economic damage they can
do to a new grass padic or a crop. But again,
they nest in trees at this time of the year,
so real big nests, and they stand out. They're very

(31:40):
large and no mistaking what would be using it because
it's bigger than anything else would use. So again, if
those tall trees, you know, the blue gums, they're pines
in the America car because you're not likely to see
them sitting on fence posts or smaller tree lanes.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
So again in touch with as obviously from more Room
Fade Dave.

Speaker 8 (31:57):
Yeah, they got their website. On the website, it's got
to look at and if people thinks I've seen one,
just reference that, and it shows how they fly and
what they look like and what they sound like. But
there's other YouTube videos of what crows and rocks locked like.
And yeah, if you think I've seen one, give us
a ring asked for to buy a security thing, or
preferably you might want to just report it via the

(32:19):
peace type website. And that gives you a chance to
put in all the details that we would need, rapid numbers, locations,
and more importantly, it gives you a chance to put
a dot on a map for us, so it out
takes away a bit of a guesswork or where you
might be talking about. So yeah, again, we haven't had
them for a few years. We just want people to
be vigilant and understand that they are a pest and
most regions in New Zealand have had real success stories

(32:40):
and had very few birds now and we just want
to get them down to zero if we can, and
we're zero at the moment in the South, but they
could come back from anywhere. We just want want people
to be aware.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Prevention over cure. Dave B is nothing wrong with that.
Always got to catch up.

Speaker 8 (32:55):
Hey, thanks, Andy, will catch up next time.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
Cheers.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
There you go all about rocks. The sound of a
rock interesting thing to keep an eye up for. Of
course they burgess on behalf of Environments Southland. And before
we wrap up Isler Pringle that says the Muster the

(33:34):
song's called Dreamer. Everybody dreams of being something, and dreams
always starts somewhere, traditionally in the farming industry, more often
than not being involved with the Young Farmers clubs. And
that's why we head this afternoon catching up with Eiler Pringle.
She is chaired for Nightcaps Young Farmers. Good day, Isla,
Welcome to the Muster.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
How are you good?

Speaker 9 (33:51):
Thank you very much for andy are you.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Can't complain blue sky like this? It certainly puts a
spring in the step. No pun intended for the rend
of August.

Speaker 9 (34:00):
That's right, we're all happy now.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
My cat's Young Farmers. You're chairperson out there. Firstly, when
did you get involved with Young Farmers.

Speaker 9 (34:11):
When we moved to Headshope. Oh this is the fourth
year there, but yeah, three years ago, I guess just
thought it would be good to meet a few people
in the community and just started turning up to meetings
and events and yeah, sort of just progressed my way
through there and you have been selected as the chief person.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
So where were you before you leave it?

Speaker 9 (34:33):
A Headshope, my partner was farming out at Googe Road
and I was I'm originally from South Icago, so you
had just been studied in Dnedam and then you're down south.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
So no, you're only your stone throw away from where
you grew up. There's nothing wrong with that now. Being
involved with young farmers, no brainer. Everybody to speaks who
just says the same thing is a great way to
connect and catch up and get social. Suppose the same
from your perspective.

Speaker 9 (35:03):
Yeah, massively, Like it's just a great platform to get
off farm. You know, she hears stories over last spring.
It was great to know everyone was in the same
boat and shares some of the problems. But I guess
on the other side of it is, you know, we
have to lead the way forward for the dairy industry
and if we want young teen Keiwi workers in years

(35:28):
to come, we've got to sort of make sure there's
a platform to just share the excitement around farming. So yeah,
it's probably a big why reason why we're involved in
that space.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yeah, it's a very forward thinking you preace, you just
come up with the tomended with that.

Speaker 9 (35:43):
I guess yeah, Like if you don't take the rein,
who does?

Speaker 8 (35:45):
So?

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Yeah, and are you enjoying it as far as being
involved with the executives.

Speaker 9 (35:51):
Yeah, no, it's it's been a learning curve. But yeah,
pretty cool and got some pretty cool things on the horizon.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
I think.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
You made a really interesting comment before about catching up
with other people last spring when it was crappy going, Like,
so this season every year is like a box of
chocolates every season. We know that, but have you guys
got any mechanisms and play there as a young Farmers group,
so like chats and just keep going with a banter
when the going gets tough? What do you guys do

(36:21):
to try and mitigate things?

Speaker 9 (36:23):
Yeah, well that's that's just always there, always a platform.
It's as simple as putting in the chat how we're
going for a drink tonight, and you know people can
all tag along. Everyone's got their own friends within the
Young Farmers Club that they check up on and so yeah,
it's very social sort of group. So we're always talking

(36:49):
and communicating, always events to make sure people were.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Yeah, did you find that last year everybody people started struggling,
so they just got in touch to say, Ronnie, guys,
let's throw some.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Bent and we just need to keep things on the
straight and level.

Speaker 9 (37:04):
Yeah no, it's always it's always, you know, pretty active.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
But yeah, no, you'd be the commander for that. That's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Look like I say, every season is different, as are
the events that go on with young farmers. What have
you guys been up to you lately?

Speaker 9 (37:21):
As you know, it's been busy, so it's been a
wee bit quiet the last two months. We did have
a Golden Standard comp which is a Southland wide competition,
held the event and it was a badminton event. So
your nightcaps came away with the wind. That was just
last week so now we have to come up with

(37:43):
a new event. But yeah, looking forward, we've got quite
a few exciting things. A ski trip planned, then trip
up to regional events, Christmas at the races, all sorts
of things coming up.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Here's a regional event this year, Clinton, Yeah, it's nice.

Speaker 9 (38:03):
Hopefully they'll do a good job.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
I'm sure they will. And badminton it was in someone's
will shed.

Speaker 9 (38:09):
Yeah yeah, down at the key there, so that was
a great night. Everyone enjoyed it, so.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Yeah, membership numbers at nightcaps looking good.

Speaker 9 (38:18):
Yeah, yep, just improving. To be honest, we've been a
wee bit slack on Chicken Up, but no, they're just
getting more and more, to be fair.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
So you get regularly good attendances at your meetings, Yeah.

Speaker 9 (38:31):
No, we've been having really really good meetings.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
So yeah, it's good.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Quite a bit happening.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
We talked about it getting into the busy season, but
you guys will get together and have the occasional drink
and the likes after that. Is there anything that you
guys are planning for, say, over the next two or
three months, you talk about Christmas at the races, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Do you do much in the way of fundraising.

Speaker 9 (38:54):
Web We're actually looking to do a weet bit more.

Speaker 8 (38:58):
So.

Speaker 9 (38:58):
Yeah, if anyone has any fundraising ideas, reach out. We
do a bit of tailing team to cover a few
silid stacks and things like that. So we're going to
make some money to have some fun.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
So yeah, well there you go. A court of arms.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Anybody who's got a few jobs that needs done, that
need done either at nightcatch young farmers, she's a person
to go through, right, that's right.

Speaker 5 (39:26):
Now.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
As far as your meetings, when do you have them
or where do you normally hold them?

Speaker 9 (39:31):
So first Wednesday of every month, and that's at the
top pub.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
We are.

Speaker 9 (39:37):
We're looking to do a few more farm tools and
factory tools and things like that. So for an update,
it would probably be best to check out Instagram page
or Facebook page just in case we're not at the
top pub. But yeah, first Wednesday of every month and
where we always have a post up on Instagram or Facebook.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
You said factory tours in where are you hoping to go?

Speaker 9 (40:02):
Oh, like a few tulip farms, you know, might look
to go to Fontira or Alliance or something like that,
just to look at some different sides of the industry
that maybe we don't.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
Usually look at.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Fantastic hero I was thinking it was going to be
your brewery.

Speaker 9 (40:20):
It's not off the cards.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Hey, good on your islers, So night, catch Young Farmer's
social channels, directive of anybody else to get involved.

Speaker 9 (40:28):
Yep, yep, and email as well as that's preferred.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Good on your isler, appreciated the chat. You enjoy the
rest of the afternoon. Always appreciate the catch up with
you guys.

Speaker 9 (40:39):
Yeah, no, awesome, Thank you very much, Andy, laugh out.

Speaker 8 (40:44):
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Speaker 3 (41:46):
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Speaker 10 (41:58):
Ah? Yeah, look, just just an another continuation of these
solid pricings that we've seen for several months now. We
saw lambs pen of lambs again to the three hundred
dollar mark, which is becoming a roosenly regular occurrence. So
we'll start off with those prime lambs if you like, Andy.

(42:19):
The best of those two forty astrodout three hundred dollar
markers mentioned the second cut of prime lamps two hundred
to two thirty, third cup prime lambs at one sixty
five through the one ninety best of the US one
fifty three to one eighty, the second cups at one
twenty to one forty five, third cup of prime US
at one hundred to one fifteen, with the bottom edge

(42:41):
of the U market being eighty to ninety five dollars,
best at the local tade rams at eighty the seconds
at sixty to seventy and lighter rams in the thirty
to fifty dollar mark store lambs. Again, they continue to
sell well for the ford lambs that we'll finish before
teeth start popping up, the best of those at one

(43:01):
forty three to one sixty five, the seconds at one
fifteen through the one thirty five on the bottoming edge
of the prime lands at ninety three to one hundred
and ten. One pen of mixed stage dues in today
medium condition news not stand due around the second week
in September, and they made two hundred and twelve dollars

(43:22):
Into the cattle section we go. Smaller shoutings on all
fronts here at this time of the year, as you'd expect,
but best of the best of the beef stairs and
heapers six thirty to six ninety ks selling at four
seventy to four eighty per kilo, heifers at four hundred
and four fifty kilos for twenty to four forty five,

(43:44):
and the cows five hundred and eighty kilo cows medium
condition at two dollars sixty per kilo. Into that store
market we go are to beef stairs at four one
hundred and sixty nine kilos made two thousand, two hundred
and eighty to be stairs and hep of pen mixed
at four hundred and thirteen k's made nineteen hundred dollars

(44:07):
and R two Hereford deffers at four fifteen k's made
nineteen hundred and eighty dollars, and so that yealing market
we go. Beef cross heippers at two sixty kilos made
one thousand, one hundred dollars, and some yealing freezing steers
tipping the scales at two hundred and thirty k's made
nine hundred sixty dollars. As mentioned, smaller shouting store kettle

(44:29):
Bit selling on a particularly strong market on their classes
and Bobby calf time the year again. Best of the
Hereford freezing ball market was at the one hundred and
eighty dollar mark, the second cup of the Hereford Friezian
balls at one forty, Hereford Frisian heifers the best of
those at one fifty, and the second dartings in the

(44:50):
one hundred to one hundred team dollar bracket, and a cher.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
Relays in there.

Speaker 10 (44:56):
Bull calves tops of those at one eighty, and the
freezing bulls from the eighty to ninety dollars bracket just
a medium sized yadding very good demand for quality carves,
not quite the demand for the poor poor carves or
op carves. Just a mentioned you sit to all your

(45:17):
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