February 15, 2019 • 44 mins
This week The National Defense welcomes the Chief of Staff for Wounded Warrior Project, Chris Toner, to give us an update on Wounded Warrior Project and what they have on the horizon in 2019. ABC Nightly News host David Muir then joins the program to discuss his long running career in journalism, including his time covering armed conflicts around the world and the American men and women in uniform who are serving our country. It’s another great week on The National Defense!
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men and women serving on active dutyin the Garden Reserves. It's for the
millions of veterans out there, andit's for all their families. We're here
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talk to somebody from Wounded Warrior Project. Great partner of the show, and
we'll get the big guns out today. The Chief of Staff, Chris Toner,
joins us here in the program.Chris, how are you doing?
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I'm doing great. I'm not sureabout the big guns. Listen, you've
been anybody who graduates from Emporia StateUniversity in Kansas can only go on to
do great things. Yeah, you'reright, that's that's Kansas is always home
for us. Great people, greatenvironment, and great culture, a great
place to grow up. Yeah,we're we're based out here in Kansas City,
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Missouri, but know a lot ofpeople from the Biggie and uh just
a great school and a great atmosphereup there now. But now see that
begs the question are you a Jayhawksfan? You know? I actually am
so. My two oldest boys orgraduates. Um, you know, and
so rock Chock Jayhawk absolutely always inthere. And I'm obviously a Chiefs fan.
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And uh, you know, PaulRudd talked about two weeks not being
long enough. I will tell youin my pain will probably stay until we
get the Lombardi Trophy. Yeah.Yeah, well the good news is on
that at least now we have ashot. Yeah, absolutely, you know,
it's an exciting time for sure.I remember my father jumping up and
down when Hank Stram and Len Dawsonwon the won the Super Bowl, and
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I've been waiting ever since. Somy fingers are yeah, we all have
so yeah, that's that's great.Christ Owner's on the program with US Chief
of Staff a Wounded Warrior project Andnow you've you know what a career you
served nearly thirty years in the army. Um, can you let us know
what some of your roles were youhad? You had a lot to look
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over there, didn't you. Yeah, Randy, I mean you know,
really, it's just been an honorand privilege to serve the greatest honor and
privileged to serve with our soldiers outthere and the great families and patriots as
a as a part of our military. I mean for twenty nine years.
You know, I again was justa lucky, a lucky person. I
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commanded soldiers for fifteen of those twentynine years. I commander an inftry Britian
Task Force and a brigade combat Teamin Afghanistan. And my last assignment was
a wonderful assignment I was. Iwas a commander of the Army's Warrior Transition
Command and in that command, Ihad responsibilities for the for the the Armed
Warrior Care Program which provide the medicalcare, the rehabilitation and transition support to
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our Army's most severely wounded, hilland injured soldiers. And that program,
you know, it was conducted inall the Warrior Transition units across the country
and in Germany. So it wasa great way to end my service serving
those who have served us so well. And you know what a great transition
that is then, from from thatrole into your role at WUNDA Warrior Project.
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No absolutely, I mean I pinchedmyself every day going to work knowing
that I'm going to serve those whocontinue to serve us. And you know,
I still have skin in the gametoo. My oldest is a is
a jet um pilot for the AirForce shot jet pilot. He is my
middle son's Army aviator. He's flyingAPACHE so oh wow uh. And then
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I have a fourteen year old.That's Army family planning. That's what we
call. That's good AFP. TheArmy is right well. And so now
with Wounded Warrior Project, you're kindof helping warriors on the other side of
that transition. And you're also you'rehelping to lead this organization and responding to
the needs of America's wounded veteran andnot just the needs after service. You
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guys are also addressing high risk crisissituations and complicated emergencies. Can you talk
about that a little bit, Chris, Yeah, absolutely. You know so,
since two thousand and three, wehave been helping address complex issues and
over the years we've certainly responded tosome of the most difficult cases. And
this includes veterans struggling with severe mentalhealth issues, homelessness, substance abuse,
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or combinations of all three. Andover the years, as both the VA
and other community based organizations have adaptedto the veterans needs, you know so
too as Wounded Warrior Project. Sowe've been working hard and collaboratively with the
VA and community based organizations across thecountry to join together to bring the necessary
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resources together at the right time andat the right place to address these complex
and often crisis better situations. Yeah, and you know, with Wounded Warrior
Project, you guys were one ofthe first organizations to jump in and talk
about things like mental illness and PTSDand some of the programs that you set
up to address those. You know, a lot of other organizations had talked
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about that, but Wounded Warrior jumpedin with both feet and really kind of
led the way in that effort,didn't you. Well, you know again,
it's I think I think I lookat it, Randy, from a
standpoint of, you know, howbest to collaboratively work with others in the
space out there again, whether it'sthe VA, it's it's private public partnerships,
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it's it's community based organization, it'syou know there there are so many
great programs up there, and itreally comes down to, uh, you
know, networking and how do youconnect a veteran to the to the resources
that can meet their needs the rightresources right, absolutely, absolutely, and
and and so much of it isyou know, reaching out and working,
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you know, shoulders shoulder together toaddress these needs. So, Chris,
how challenging are some of these situations? Can you maybe give us an example?
Yeah, no, absolutely, Solet's take for instance, one case
we're actually actively working right now.So, this veteran had become addicted to
opioids as a result of the polypharmacythat was prescribed due to his significant injuries
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from an RPG blast in Afghanistan.And this veteran is addicted to drugs um
he has mental health issues, hehas complicating physical injuries, and we were
approached by some of his battle buddieswho were concerned about the turn that this
veteran had taken. So we workedwith his family. We actually brought his
old opportunity leader in to meet withhim, and through this effort, we
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got him off the street and intoa quality substance abuse program where he could
be stabilized to the point that clinicianscould then begin to address his mental health
needs. Throughout the process, we'realso working with a VA and other organizations
to develop a long term plan forthe veteran. And as everyone knows,
addiction can be a powerful enemy tocombat, and in this case, the
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veterans had relapses, he's discharged himselffrom programs, and in the course of
events, he's actually broken the lawsof his state and he's now incarcerated.
But you know, none of usran here walking away from this veteran,
and we continue to work with thelocal Veterans Court, the VA's Veterans Justice
Outreach program, and a community,you know, his community, who know
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the veteran to develop a coordinated longterm treatment and rehabilitation plan. Yeah.
You know, that's the important partto Chris about not walking away. I
mean, it's not one of thesethings where you throw a lot of resources
out a veteran and then say goodluck, we hope everything works out.
I mean, this sounds like acase where you're constantly checking making sure you
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get some resolution right now. You'reabsolutely right. You know, we're all
committed. I mean, the wholecommunity is committed to this. You know,
when you're dealing with combinations of issues, you know, these complex cases,
especially substance abuse and severe mental healthissues, it can be very,
very complicated getting a warrior in crisisinto the care he or she needs,
and it really takes all hands ondeck. A VA, other public and
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private organizations to bring all the rightresources to bear. And you know we've
we've worked hard to develop deep relationshipswith the VA and these community based organizations,
you know, leveraging as you saidearlier, they're great resources. And
then you know our ability to makedecisions quickly, and we're a Warrior project
and spawn very fast in these complexsituations to help you connect a veteran to
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those resources. Listen, Chris Toneris our guest chief of staff Wanted to
Warrior Project here in the National Defense. Chris, thanks for the time today,
and thanks for everything that you guysare doing. We really appreciate.
Where do people go to find outmore information? Yep, let's go to
our web page at Wanted a WarriorProject dot org. You can navigate that.
It's about as easy, especially foran old guy like me, to
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get through there and hit the tastand find the information you need. So
it's a wonderful source for information andwe're there for our veterans in need.
You went to employa state university,you can navigate through anything. Yeah,
you're right. I don't think wehad computers back to that. It might
have been okay, Chris, thankyou so much. We'll be right back
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National Defense. Do you ever watchABC World News tonight all the time.
Yeah, all the time. DavidMuir is the man. It is the
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watched, the most watched television newscamp and he's done it all in the
world out Man. David Muhr ison with us here in the National Defense
David, How are you? Wow? Brandy Jerry, thanks for the invite.
Proud to be here with you all. This is great. And you
just got back from Afghanistan, right, you know I did. We traveled
to m cobble about a week ago. You know, it's a tricky you
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guys know that that. For adecade or more, I was sort of
the build trotting guy for World NewsTonight when Charlie Gibson was the anchor,
Giant Sawyer, even Peter Jennings Iwas here. I reported for Peter for
a time as well. But whenI got the anchor job, part of
my adjustment was realizing, I'm gonnahave to do these trips, you know,
around the world to fit them insort of on the weekend if I
can pull it off, because theyhave this expectation for some reason, I'm
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going to show up at the newsdesk every night. So I had to
get used to that. But theAfghanistan trip was something we pulled off.
I anchored the news on a Thursdaynight, I said good night, and
we raced to the airport that Ithink an eleven pm flight. Of course,
given the time difference, I tookthis Thursday night overnight all day Friday
to get there. We landed Saturdaymorning in Cobble waiting to meet General Miller,
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the four star general of course,is taken over command top US commander
there and at Fghanistan's last September Ibelieve. And then we started our shoot,
you know. We took off ona black Hawk, flew over some
of the mountains there, landed inCamp moorehead, visit Camp Commando, and
it was sort of an extraordinary thingto witness I think firsthand what they're doing
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right now amid all this talk backhere in the US and at Washington about
whether or not to draw down troops, if and when they'll do that.
And General Miller helped to remind thisaudience back here at home, first of
all, why we should care seventeenyears in, why people should be aware
our sons and daughters are still therefighting and the urgent threat that we face,
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so that that becomes part of thispolitical debate like, don't do anything,
you know, without knowing the fullpicture. But if but if you
understand the full picture and you stillwant to do the drawdown and you think
we can pull this off. Thatwas that was the message that I was
hearing while on the ground there wereopen to drawing down a footprint perhaps,
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but let's do so really carefully becausewe don't want to say pans that were
there. Of course, that helpedgrade now eleven. You know, my
last trip there, I deliberately plannedmy trip so I would spend time with
the training command, if you will, shoulder to shoulder thing that was going
on back back then in twenty elevenor twelve, um. So I spent
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a lot of time at the variouscamps where they were attempting to train Afghan
soldiers. And I got to tellyou, David, what I saw was
I had serious doubts as to whetherthe Afghans would ever be able to take
over as they should. Well,you know, I mean, the Taliban
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continues, you know, in itsruthless nature, right, and you know,
when we were at Camp Commando,we're watching, you know, American
special forces sort of watch over thesemilitary drills. But the Afghan special forces,
and I do think that they've madegreat strides, you know, thanks
in large parts of the American forceswho are training them, watching them,
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helping them, backing them up.And you know, one of the things
that we saw was this, youknow, incredible moment from just a couple
of weeks back of them storming aTaliban prison. They were holding some of
these Afghan um you know troops,uh, you know, prisoner inside this
prison um. And we have painedsome of that footage and it was sort
of extraordinary thing. You know,it's it's the Afghan special forces. You
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know, US forces are right there. You see them in some of this
video, um, you know,as as support, but they're really and
this is this is something I heardfrom the General over and over again,
is that if there's ever going tobe an endgame, the Afghans have to
take responsibility for their own security andthey have to step up to the plate.
Well how can that be accomplished whenyou know the government, we have
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a sense of government. We understand, you know, our style of government,
but over there it's so much different. I Mean, the government,
i'll say it can purposes, doesn'texist for most of its citizens. I
mean it's isolated in Kabul, uh, you know, with acres a barbed
wire and cement barriers right around thepresident's palace, you know, and you
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get out, you get out therein the countryside, and they don't know
what garden, right is. Imean, I think you're absolutely right.
And I think one of the bigconcerns right now is, you know a
lot of the headlines that broke backhere in the US that the US has
engaged in talks with the Taliban,and that was something that General not only
confirmed but said he was encouraged bythe fact that that that the US has
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taken that step, and in fact, General Miller said, look, you
know, if we're ever going tohave an endgame here, it's going to
be a political endgame. It's goingto be some sort of a political setlement
that one you know, derived fromthe military. Uh. But he also
said that while they're talking, wemust keep up our bombardment and our intense
targeting at the Taliban, you know, to keep them at the table.
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But the question you bring up aboutthe government is a really smart one because
I think there are real genuine concernsabout the Afghan government not being at that
table right now, and it's it'ssuch a fragile government to begin with.
UM that could not be sitting acrossfrom the Taliban is a tricky thing.
You know. The longer they wait, the longer they hear or the US
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has involved the talks to the Taliban, the more I think anxious they become
about you know, when when whenare we all involved? And what happens
to the advances we've made in thegovernment that represents the people. You know,
we've all been moved by those powerfulimages of women in recent years voting,
you know, they're with the stainon their finger from you know,
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proudly having voted in Afghanistan. UM. And so there are I mean,
there are so many questions still leftto be answered, and I think that
families back home also want the answerto that question. You know, sons
and daughters have been fighting in thisfor seventeen years now, to be eighteen,
you know next fall, as everyonein Afghanistan certainly knows, UM,
you know, how do we moveforward? And I you know, listen,
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this is why the generals do theirjob and the policymakers are supposed to
be doing their jobs. That's inWashington now, because I think this is
a really tricky moment in this war. You know, the last thing you
want to do is leave Afghanistan andnot be certain that these pockets of ices,
which is now a real concern inAfghanistan and certainly the Taliban, that
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they don't um, they don't sortof take advantage of any sort of a
vacuum, uh, that that thatmight be created with with any kind of
draw down. I think that that'ssomething they can carry with them, all
of these uh, you know,the commanders, the generals, the people
leaving this fight. I mean,I think that's the concern um And and
they're proceeding with great caution, withgreat care. And you know, the
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general said, I'm not the policymaker. I'll follow the policymakers in Washington.
I'll listen to the commander in chief. So I'm just the general here on
the ground out them. They allcarry very legitimate concerns with them every day.
That's a really interesting conversation at areally interesting point. We're talking to
David Muir from ABC Nightly News herein the National Defense, and David,
the thing that I can really appreciateabout, especially the trip to Afghanistan you
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know, that's I think most people, most news organizations would look at that
and say, there's nothing going onthere. I mean, a seventeen years
old. We don't need to goand investigate this. And it seems like,
at least in your career, overyour entire career, you're you're the
one guy that goes to the areawhere all of the other reporters and news
organizations are not. Yeah, andhe goes even at home. He covers
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the issues that matter and things thatthat are so important in our national security,
both abroad when you look internally.Yeah, gun issues, drugs,
etcetera, etcetera. You've got thekind of career. Yeah, man,
I only wish I could have had. And hey, I'll be glad to
carry your bags an some healthy days. I'm you know, definitely the job
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catches up to you at some points. But but you know, listen,
I was sort of the you know, the twelve year old kid in the
backyard. I grew up in upstateNew York. I was the only kid
in the neighborhood who would excuse himselfto go inside to watch you know,
the local news, and then PeterJennings some moms World News tonight. You
wighborhood, right, Well, youknow I'm not saying I wasn't. That
didn't happen to me. That wouldbe the exclusive. We could talk about
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that and say that's the first combatzone. Yeah yeah, no. But
you know, you listen if youhave a passion, and you and you
and as I believe I did atthat point. You know, at twelve
and thirteen years old, you can'tput words to what it is that draws
you to but in looking back asan adult, I recognize it as that.
As a kid, I just youknow, I think I had a
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hunger to see the world beyond myneighbor hood. And quite frankly, I
began interning at the local station atthirteen fourteen years old, carrying me and
I, you know, we wouldtravel out the stories. I would beg
them to ride in the back ofthe news cruiser and as this kid in
turn, and honestly, I washappier than I ever thought I would be.
I thought I was seeing the worldand I was just traveling to upstate
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New York County, you know,during thunderstorms and you know, severe weather
or whatever. The Syracuse Common Councilmight have been voting on them that given
day. I never, in mywildest dreams thought I would literally be seeing
the world and then getting that thechance to sort of have a conversation with
America every night, and you know, you guys bring up some of the
travels that I've done. I dothat because I love it, but I
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also do it because I really dobelieve that I bear a responsibility with the
audience that watches us every night.You know, we are seventeen years into
this war. We cannot forget thepeople who are serving, who are there
because they believe they're they're tasked witha mission to protect the US. To
check in on them, to heartheir voices, which is why we did
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not only the piece with the General. But I'm not sure if you guys
caught it. On Friday night,we do this Persons of the Week.
It's a it's a series that PeterJennings began years ago that I brought that
when I became the anchor. Everysingle week we do someone someone ordinary and
I hate even saying ordinary, butsomeone ordinary doing extraordinary things. We try
to find not the famous people,not the celebrities around America, and we
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highlight them on Friday nights, andI thought, you know what, We're
going to turn this Friday night Personsof the Week into all of the folks
that the young men and women wemet over in Afghanistan, and we just
gave the piece to them and Imade them the persons of the week.
But you know, we should dothat really as much as we possibly can,
because the sacrifice, you can't evenput words to it. When you
hear and you are reminded. Youknow, yet, one of the young
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women, she's a teacher, she'san English teacher back here in the States.
When she goes she goes on leave, there's a substitute teacher teaching her
kids. She told me she hada two year old and a five year
old back home. I mean,the men and women in uniform are sacrificing
a tremendous amount us back here inthe States, and we can't forget that.
You had a cool piece on lastnight. Um cool, Yeah,
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Well you interviewed the one hundred yearold, yeah veteran. That was so
cool. It reminded us because we'vehad the gentleman that just passed away but
a couple of months ago, Iguess, and he was the oldest living
veteran and we used to have himon every one of his birthdays. And
I think when he died he wasone hundred and twelve, well something like
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that. Wow yeah yeah yeah andsmoking and drinking whiskey. Yeah yeah,
good, Yeah, that's that's goods. That's right. Listen, you're talking
about last night. It was CorporalSidney Walton. They turned one hundred hundred
years old yesterday. He was inNew York City, which is where he
was born, raised in Brooklyn,moved to the South Bronx, walked to
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school every day, and he washonored here in New York. And you
know, someone here at ABC Newsbumped into him, uh and they told
that person that he watched you know, World News tonight every night, that
there was any way possible for himto meet me while in New York that
would be amazing. And he reachedout to me over the weekend and told
me, you know, I justmet this World War two every and I
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was like, absolutely, We're goingto make this happen. And you know
that that's the kind of thing thatI'm talking about. You know, we
met him yesterday on his birthday.We brought cameras to the little ceremony.
They helped her in me here inNew York City, and we just devoted
at the very end of the newscastto him, and not only for a
happy birthday, but to say,you know, thank you, Sydney.
He's a guy who had listed.He had listed but nine months before Pearl
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Harbor even happened. And he's nowon a mission to travel to all fifty
states because yeah, this is reallythis is really interesting because when he was
young, he said that he regretsnot having reached out to the generation who
served before him. And I thought, wow, what a powerful message today
for our young generation in this country. And he basically's traveling the States saying,
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if you want to meet a WorldWar Two veteran, you know,
I'd love to shake your hand.And that's cool. It is pretty powerful
thing, and that's a great feelgood story for all of us. And
we're talking to David Muir hero onthe National Defense and I don't want to
I don't want to write a scriptfor you, David. I mean,
you know you've got people for that, You've got producers, but just try
this on for tonight's broadcast. Imean, if you just start out with,
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hey, I was on this fabulousradio show today with two fabulous guys.
These two guys you're gonna meet himin a second. But I mean,
it's just something to play with it, you know, just just spitballing.
It's funny. I don't know.Did you get a chance to see
our lineup already? I have noidea how you do David, listen,
Thank you so much for the time. So I want to give a shout
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out to everyone listening here. Randyand Jerry. You both do important work.
You get the word out about whatour troops are doing every day all
over the world to keep our countrysafe. And my pledge to everyone listening
and to all the troops the groundboat of the US and around the world,
is that we will stay at it. We know you're out there,
we know this sacrifice you're making,and you know we'll continue to do those
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trips because they're important and it's ourway. It's our way to pay tribute
to you for your service. It'sthe least we can do. So thanks
for everything. You are the best. Yeah, thanks for everything you do.
Brother, Absolutely, David, thankyou so much. Thanks guys.
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into Valentine's Day, I love thistopic. How your eyes say I love
you? Can you can you actuallytell when somebody's in love by simply looking
at their eyes? Now? Ican with my dogs. But any truth
today or is that just a cheesypickup line? Well, it can be
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I think I've never used it becausethe insider information. But the eyes have
a physiological response when we do seesomething that we like, now, whether
that's a person, a place,or a thing. It sounds like a
game here, but the actual responseis called madriasis, where the pupils dilate
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slightly, really and it's almost liketrying to see more of what we like.
Correct, huh, Now see Iam not something you can I have
not something you can make, right, Yeah, yeah, I think I
had that. When I see mygolf ball very rarely headed toward the pen,
I think, my you looked atme about right then. But that's
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that can happen exactly. So itdoesn't only happen with the person you love,
right, No, No, itcan happen with the again, as
we said, like an unusual occurrencelike you're rolling in a forty foot put
right, or hitting the green froma hundred and ninety yards away. Other
things that we see, like justsomething that we really respond to, and
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how it could be for some people'sfood, it could be sometimes just a
car like a classic fifty seven Chivrolet. Oh yeah. So there are various
responses that are certainly figures that willhave a response. Boy, I am
going to be looking into my wife'seyes so closely today. It's it's going
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to be creepy. Well that's good. Yeah, that's good. You set
the stage for Valentine's faith, thenyou can Well that's what I wanted to
ask. If you if your pupilsdon't dilate, does that mean you're not
into somebody? No, if you'rein bright light, it'll be muted response.
Sometimes maybe just that yeah, she'ssomeone and you like them, but
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aren't really that stimulated. The responsewill happen certainly, So it's it's not
designator. Yeah, there's a lotof testing going on at my house this
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men and women serving on active dutyin the Garden Reserves. It's for the
millions of veterans out there, andit's for all their families. We're here
for you. We love you.God Blushing, We're always so glad to
talk to somebody from Wounded Warrior Project. Great partner of the show, and
we'll get the big guns out today. The Chief of Staff, Chris Toner,
joins us here in the program.Chris, how are you doing?
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I'm doing great. I'm not sureabout the big guns. Listen, you've
been anybody who graduates from Emporia StateUniversity in Kansas can only go on to
do great things. Yeah, you'reright, that's that's Kansas is always home
for us. Great people, greatenvironment, and great culture, a great
place to grow up. Yeah,we're we're based out here in Kansas City,
(02:13):
Missouri, but know a lot ofpeople from the Biggie and uh just
a great school and a great atmosphereup there now. But now see that
begs the question are you a Jayhawksfan? You know? I actually am
so. My two oldest boys orgraduates. Um, you know, and
so rock Chock Jayhawk absolutely always inthere. And I'm obviously a Chiefs fan.
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And uh, you know, PaulRudd talked about two weeks not being
long enough. I will tell youin my pain will probably stay until we
get the Lombardi Trophy. Yeah.Yeah, well the good news is on
that at least now we have ashot. Yeah, absolutely, you know,
it's an exciting time for sure.I remember my father jumping up and
down when Hank Stram and Len Dawsonwon the won the Super Bowl, and
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I've been waiting ever since. Somy fingers are yeah, we all have
so yeah, that's that's great.Christ Owner's on the program with US Chief
of Staff a Wounded Warrior project Andnow you've you know what a career you
served nearly thirty years in the army. Um, can you let us know
what some of your roles were youhad? You had a lot to look
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over there, didn't you. Yeah, Randy, I mean you know,
really, it's just been an honorand privilege to serve the greatest honor and
privileged to serve with our soldiers outthere and the great families and patriots as
a as a part of our military. I mean for twenty nine years.
You know, I again was justa lucky, a lucky person. I
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commanded soldiers for fifteen of those twentynine years. I commander an inftry Britian
Task Force and a brigade combat Teamin Afghanistan. And my last assignment was
a wonderful assignment I was. Iwas a commander of the Army's Warrior Transition
Command and in that command, Ihad responsibilities for the for the the Armed
Warrior Care Program which provide the medicalcare, the rehabilitation and transition support to
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our Army's most severely wounded, hilland injured soldiers. And that program,
you know, it was conducted inall the Warrior Transition units across the country
and in Germany. So it wasa great way to end my service serving
those who have served us so well. And you know what a great transition
that is then, from from thatrole into your role at WUNDA Warrior Project.
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No absolutely, I mean I pinchedmyself every day going to work knowing
that I'm going to serve those whocontinue to serve us. And you know,
I still have skin in the gametoo. My oldest is a is
a jet um pilot for the AirForce shot jet pilot. He is my
middle son's Army aviator. He's flyingAPACHE so oh wow uh. And then
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I have a fourteen year old.That's Army family planning. That's what we
call. That's good AFP. TheArmy is right well. And so now
with Wounded Warrior Project, you're kindof helping warriors on the other side of
that transition. And you're also you'rehelping to lead this organization and responding to
the needs of America's wounded veteran andnot just the needs after service. You
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guys are also addressing high risk crisissituations and complicated emergencies. Can you talk
about that a little bit, Chris, Yeah, absolutely. You know so,
since two thousand and three, wehave been helping address complex issues and
over the years we've certainly responded tosome of the most difficult cases. And
this includes veterans struggling with severe mentalhealth issues, homelessness, substance abuse,
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or combinations of all three. Andover the years, as both the VA
and other community based organizations have adaptedto the veterans needs, you know so
too as Wounded Warrior Project. Sowe've been working hard and collaboratively with the
VA and community based organizations across thecountry to join together to bring the necessary
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resources together at the right time andat the right place to address these complex
and often crisis better situations. Yeah, and you know, with Wounded Warrior
Project, you guys were one ofthe first organizations to jump in and talk
about things like mental illness and PTSDand some of the programs that you set
up to address those. You know, a lot of other organizations had talked
(06:34):
about that, but Wounded Warrior jumpedin with both feet and really kind of
led the way in that effort,didn't you. Well, you know again,
it's I think I think I lookat it, Randy, from a
standpoint of, you know, howbest to collaboratively work with others in the
space out there again, whether it'sthe VA, it's it's private public partnerships,
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it's it's community based organization, it'syou know there there are so many
great programs up there, and itreally comes down to, uh, you
know, networking and how do youconnect a veteran to the to the resources
that can meet their needs the rightresources right, absolutely, absolutely, and
and and so much of it isyou know, reaching out and working,
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you know, shoulders shoulder together toaddress these needs. So, Chris,
how challenging are some of these situations? Can you maybe give us an example?
Yeah, no, absolutely, Solet's take for instance, one case
we're actually actively working right now.So, this veteran had become addicted to
opioids as a result of the polypharmacythat was prescribed due to his significant injuries
(07:42):
from an RPG blast in Afghanistan.And this veteran is addicted to drugs um
he has mental health issues, hehas complicating physical injuries, and we were
approached by some of his battle buddieswho were concerned about the turn that this
veteran had taken. So we workedwith his family. We actually brought his
old opportunity leader in to meet withhim, and through this effort, we
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got him off the street and intoa quality substance abuse program where he could
be stabilized to the point that clinicianscould then begin to address his mental health
needs. Throughout the process, we'realso working with a VA and other organizations
to develop a long term plan forthe veteran. And as everyone knows,
addiction can be a powerful enemy tocombat, and in this case, the
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veterans had relapses, he's discharged himselffrom programs, and in the course of
events, he's actually broken the lawsof his state and he's now incarcerated.
But you know, none of usran here walking away from this veteran,
and we continue to work with thelocal Veterans Court, the VA's Veterans Justice
Outreach program, and a community,you know, his community, who know
(08:50):
the veteran to develop a coordinated longterm treatment and rehabilitation plan. Yeah.
You know, that's the important partto Chris about not walking away. I
mean, it's not one of thesethings where you throw a lot of resources
out a veteran and then say goodluck, we hope everything works out.
I mean, this sounds like acase where you're constantly checking making sure you
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get some resolution right now. You'reabsolutely right. You know, we're all
committed. I mean, the wholecommunity is committed to this. You know,
when you're dealing with combinations of issues, you know, these complex cases,
especially substance abuse and severe mental healthissues, it can be very,
very complicated getting a warrior in crisisinto the care he or she needs,
and it really takes all hands ondeck. A VA, other public and
(09:39):
private organizations to bring all the rightresources to bear. And you know we've
we've worked hard to develop deep relationshipswith the VA and these community based organizations,
you know, leveraging as you saidearlier, they're great resources. And
then you know our ability to makedecisions quickly, and we're a Warrior project
and spawn very fast in these complexsituations to help you connect a veteran to
(10:05):
those resources. Listen, Chris Toneris our guest chief of staff Wanted to
Warrior Project here in the National Defense. Chris, thanks for the time today,
and thanks for everything that you guysare doing. We really appreciate.
Where do people go to find outmore information? Yep, let's go to
our web page at Wanted a WarriorProject dot org. You can navigate that.
It's about as easy, especially foran old guy like me, to
(10:28):
get through there and hit the tastand find the information you need. So
it's a wonderful source for information andwe're there for our veterans in need.
You went to employa state university,you can navigate through anything. Yeah,
you're right. I don't think wehad computers back to that. It might
have been okay, Chris, thankyou so much. We'll be right back
(10:48):
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tips. So, once you've paidoff your debt, then what well,
first off, don't incur new debt. Yeah, that's it. Well for
sure, Yeah, I know easiershave been done. Of course, avoid
living paycheck to paycheck by living belowyour means, stick to your budget and
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it's still okay to use a creditcard, but just make sure that your
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Yeah, you're getting a good practiceof that, right, exactly.
You know, it's fine to usea credit card, especially if you've got
one that has miles and other kindof cash back and bonuses, but just
make sure that every month you paythat off. Yeah, that's a good
point. And then the last thing, the last tip I'll leave your listeners
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I'm in debt. So after allthat fun, let me guess what comes
next retirement? Exactly, very good, Yeah, Once you've got your debt
under control, it's time to thinkabout retirement. This topic could warrant its
own separate entire sale, right,so I'll do my best to keep it
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short. And obviously there's a tonof resources out there to help you think
about retirement. So really, whatI want to focus on is just sharing
some questions for your listeners to thinkabout as they get started. So first
and foremost is what type of retirementdo you want to have? Do you
plan to retire as soon as youcan travel the world or do you foresee
yourself always wanting to work, albeitmaybe fewer hours or in a less stressful
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and possibly lower paying role. Thesequestions will help tell you how much money
you need during retirement to help youpay for things, including basic necessities like
gross reasons and everything. And thenext you need to figure out what your
income sources are going to be whenyou retire, Like are you going to
have a pension? You know,very few people will have a pension,
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and even as the military is nowmoving towards a blended retirement plan, fewer
and fewer even veterans are going tohave that benefit of having a full pension.
What if you just want to buyan RV and travel to Colorado.
That sounds like a great idea too, as long as you think about it
in advance, right and make surethat you save up for it. Yeah.
Yeah, you have to have thatunderstanding, don't you. You do.
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You need to know how much moneyyou're going to need and where that
money is going to come from.So this really does boil down to good
old fashioned savings, meaning every monthyou've got to put money away towards this
long term goal, and what youdo with the saved money can vary tremendously,
whether it's cross country in an RVor a lavish salet in Europe.
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Yes, well that sounds good too. It all does, right, But
you need to know what you want, and you need to know that the
choices that you make over time willreally impact how much that money can grow.
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National Defense. Do you ever watchABC World News tonight all the time.
Yeah, all the time. DavidMuir is the man. It is the
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watched, the most watched television newscamp and he's done it all in the
world out Man. David Muhr ison with us here in the National Defense
David, How are you? Wow? Brandy Jerry, thanks for the invite.
Proud to be here with you all. This is great. And you
just got back from Afghanistan, right, you know I did. We traveled
to m cobble about a week ago. You know, it's a tricky you
(21:18):
guys know that that. For adecade or more, I was sort of
the build trotting guy for World NewsTonight when Charlie Gibson was the anchor,
Giant Sawyer, even Peter Jennings Iwas here. I reported for Peter for
a time as well. But whenI got the anchor job, part of
my adjustment was realizing, I'm gonnahave to do these trips, you know,
around the world to fit them insort of on the weekend if I
can pull it off, because theyhave this expectation for some reason, I'm
(21:41):
going to show up at the newsdesk every night. So I had to
get used to that. But theAfghanistan trip was something we pulled off.
I anchored the news on a Thursdaynight, I said good night, and
we raced to the airport that Ithink an eleven pm flight. Of course,
given the time difference, I tookthis Thursday night overnight all day Friday
to get there. We landed Saturdaymorning in Cobble waiting to meet General Miller,
(22:06):
the four star general of course,is taken over command top US commander
there and at Fghanistan's last September Ibelieve. And then we started our shoot,
you know. We took off ona black Hawk, flew over some
of the mountains there, landed inCamp moorehead, visit Camp Commando, and
it was sort of an extraordinary thingto witness I think firsthand what they're doing
(22:27):
right now amid all this talk backhere in the US and at Washington about
whether or not to draw down troops, if and when they'll do that.
And General Miller helped to remind thisaudience back here at home, first of
all, why we should care seventeenyears in, why people should be aware
our sons and daughters are still therefighting and the urgent threat that we face,
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so that that becomes part of thispolitical debate like, don't do anything,
you know, without knowing the fullpicture. But if but if you
understand the full picture and you stillwant to do the drawdown and you think
we can pull this off. Thatwas that was the message that I was
hearing while on the ground there wereopen to drawing down a footprint perhaps,
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but let's do so really carefully becausewe don't want to say pans that were
there. Of course, that helpedgrade now eleven. You know, my
last trip there, I deliberately plannedmy trip so I would spend time with
the training command, if you will, shoulder to shoulder thing that was going
on back back then in twenty elevenor twelve, um. So I spent
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a lot of time at the variouscamps where they were attempting to train Afghan
soldiers. And I got to tellyou, David, what I saw was
I had serious doubts as to whetherthe Afghans would ever be able to take
over as they should. Well,you know, I mean, the Taliban
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continues, you know, in itsruthless nature, right, and you know,
when we were at Camp Commando,we're watching, you know, American
special forces sort of watch over thesemilitary drills. But the Afghan special forces,
and I do think that they've madegreat strides, you know, thanks
in large parts of the American forceswho are training them, watching them,
(24:14):
helping them, backing them up.And you know, one of the things
that we saw was this, youknow, incredible moment from just a couple
of weeks back of them storming aTaliban prison. They were holding some of
these Afghan um you know troops,uh, you know, prisoner inside this
prison um. And we have painedsome of that footage and it was sort
of extraordinary thing. You know,it's it's the Afghan special forces. You
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know, US forces are right there. You see them in some of this
video, um, you know,as as support, but they're really and
this is this is something I heardfrom the General over and over again,
is that if there's ever going tobe an endgame, the Afghans have to
take responsibility for their own security andthey have to step up to the plate.
Well how can that be accomplished whenyou know the government, we have
(24:56):
a sense of government. We understand, you know, our style of government,
but over there it's so much different. I Mean, the government,
i'll say it can purposes, doesn'texist for most of its citizens. I
mean it's isolated in Kabul, uh, you know, with acres a barbed
wire and cement barriers right around thepresident's palace, you know, and you
(25:18):
get out, you get out therein the countryside, and they don't know
what garden, right is. Imean, I think you're absolutely right.
And I think one of the bigconcerns right now is, you know a
lot of the headlines that broke backhere in the US that the US has
engaged in talks with the Taliban,and that was something that General not only
confirmed but said he was encouraged bythe fact that that that the US has
(25:40):
taken that step, and in fact, General Miller said, look, you
know, if we're ever going tohave an endgame here, it's going to
be a political endgame. It's goingto be some sort of a political setlement
that one you know, derived fromthe military. Uh. But he also
said that while they're talking, wemust keep up our bombardment and our intense
targeting at the Taliban, you know, to keep them at the table.
(26:02):
But the question you bring up aboutthe government is a really smart one because
I think there are real genuine concernsabout the Afghan government not being at that
table right now, and it's it'ssuch a fragile government to begin with.
UM that could not be sitting acrossfrom the Taliban is a tricky thing.
You know. The longer they wait, the longer they hear or the US
(26:23):
has involved the talks to the Taliban, the more I think anxious they become
about you know, when when whenare we all involved? And what happens
to the advances we've made in thegovernment that represents the people. You know,
we've all been moved by those powerfulimages of women in recent years voting,
you know, they're with the stainon their finger from you know,
(26:44):
proudly having voted in Afghanistan. UM. And so there are I mean,
there are so many questions still leftto be answered, and I think that
families back home also want the answerto that question. You know, sons
and daughters have been fighting in thisfor seventeen years now, to be eighteen,
you know next fall, as everyonein Afghanistan certainly knows, UM,
you know, how do we moveforward? And I you know, listen,
(27:07):
this is why the generals do theirjob and the policymakers are supposed to
be doing their jobs. That's inWashington now, because I think this is
a really tricky moment in this war. You know, the last thing you
want to do is leave Afghanistan andnot be certain that these pockets of ices,
which is now a real concern inAfghanistan and certainly the Taliban, that
(27:29):
they don't um, they don't sortof take advantage of any sort of a
vacuum, uh, that that thatmight be created with with any kind of
draw down. I think that that'ssomething they can carry with them, all
of these uh, you know,the commanders, the generals, the people
leaving this fight. I mean,I think that's the concern um And and
they're proceeding with great caution, withgreat care. And you know, the
(27:52):
general said, I'm not the policymaker. I'll follow the policymakers in Washington.
I'll listen to the commander in chief. So I'm just the general here on
the ground out them. They allcarry very legitimate concerns with them every day.
That's a really interesting conversation at areally interesting point. We're talking to
David Muir from ABC Nightly News herein the National Defense, and David,
the thing that I can really appreciateabout, especially the trip to Afghanistan you
(28:17):
know, that's I think most people, most news organizations would look at that
and say, there's nothing going onthere. I mean, a seventeen years
old. We don't need to goand investigate this. And it seems like,
at least in your career, overyour entire career, you're you're the
one guy that goes to the areawhere all of the other reporters and news
organizations are not. Yeah, andhe goes even at home. He covers
(28:44):
the issues that matter and things thatthat are so important in our national security,
both abroad when you look internally.Yeah, gun issues, drugs,
etcetera, etcetera. You've got thekind of career. Yeah, man,
I only wish I could have had. And hey, I'll be glad to
carry your bags an some healthy days. I'm you know, definitely the job
(29:11):
catches up to you at some points. But but you know, listen,
I was sort of the you know, the twelve year old kid in the
backyard. I grew up in upstateNew York. I was the only kid
in the neighborhood who would excuse himselfto go inside to watch you know,
the local news, and then PeterJennings some moms World News tonight. You
wighborhood, right, Well, youknow I'm not saying I wasn't. That
didn't happen to me. That wouldbe the exclusive. We could talk about
(29:36):
that and say that's the first combatzone. Yeah yeah, no. But
you know, you listen if youhave a passion, and you and you
and as I believe I did atthat point. You know, at twelve
and thirteen years old, you can'tput words to what it is that draws
you to but in looking back asan adult, I recognize it as that.
As a kid, I just youknow, I think I had a
(29:57):
hunger to see the world beyond myneighbor hood. And quite frankly, I
began interning at the local station atthirteen fourteen years old, carrying me and
I, you know, we wouldtravel out the stories. I would beg
them to ride in the back ofthe news cruiser and as this kid in
turn, and honestly, I washappier than I ever thought I would be.
I thought I was seeing the worldand I was just traveling to upstate
(30:18):
New York County, you know,during thunderstorms and you know, severe weather
or whatever. The Syracuse Common Councilmight have been voting on them that given
day. I never, in mywildest dreams thought I would literally be seeing
the world and then getting that thechance to sort of have a conversation with
America every night, and you know, you guys bring up some of the
travels that I've done. I dothat because I love it, but I
(30:38):
also do it because I really dobelieve that I bear a responsibility with the
audience that watches us every night.You know, we are seventeen years into
this war. We cannot forget thepeople who are serving, who are there
because they believe they're they're tasked witha mission to protect the US. To
check in on them, to heartheir voices, which is why we did
(31:00):
not only the piece with the General. But I'm not sure if you guys
caught it. On Friday night,we do this Persons of the Week.
It's a it's a series that PeterJennings began years ago that I brought that
when I became the anchor. Everysingle week we do someone someone ordinary and
I hate even saying ordinary, butsomeone ordinary doing extraordinary things. We try
to find not the famous people,not the celebrities around America, and we
(31:21):
highlight them on Friday nights, andI thought, you know what, We're
going to turn this Friday night Personsof the Week into all of the folks
that the young men and women wemet over in Afghanistan, and we just
gave the piece to them and Imade them the persons of the week.
But you know, we should dothat really as much as we possibly can,
because the sacrifice, you can't evenput words to it. When you
hear and you are reminded. Youknow, yet, one of the young
(31:42):
women, she's a teacher, she'san English teacher back here in the States.
When she goes she goes on leave, there's a substitute teacher teaching her
kids. She told me she hada two year old and a five year
old back home. I mean,the men and women in uniform are sacrificing
a tremendous amount us back here inthe States, and we can't forget that.
You had a cool piece on lastnight. Um cool, Yeah,
(32:06):
Well you interviewed the one hundred yearold, yeah veteran. That was so
cool. It reminded us because we'vehad the gentleman that just passed away but
a couple of months ago, Iguess, and he was the oldest living
veteran and we used to have himon every one of his birthdays. And
I think when he died he wasone hundred and twelve, well something like
(32:28):
that. Wow yeah yeah yeah andsmoking and drinking whiskey. Yeah yeah,
good, Yeah, that's that's goods. That's right. Listen, you're talking
about last night. It was CorporalSidney Walton. They turned one hundred hundred
years old yesterday. He was inNew York City, which is where he
was born, raised in Brooklyn,moved to the South Bronx, walked to
(32:49):
school every day, and he washonored here in New York. And you
know, someone here at ABC Newsbumped into him, uh and they told
that person that he watched you know, World News tonight every night, that
there was any way possible for himto meet me while in New York that
would be amazing. And he reachedout to me over the weekend and told
me, you know, I justmet this World War two every and I
(33:10):
was like, absolutely, We're goingto make this happen. And you know
that that's the kind of thing thatI'm talking about. You know, we
met him yesterday on his birthday.We brought cameras to the little ceremony.
They helped her in me here inNew York City, and we just devoted
at the very end of the newscastto him, and not only for a
happy birthday, but to say,you know, thank you, Sydney.
He's a guy who had listed.He had listed but nine months before Pearl
(33:34):
Harbor even happened. And he's nowon a mission to travel to all fifty
states because yeah, this is reallythis is really interesting because when he was
young, he said that he regretsnot having reached out to the generation who
served before him. And I thought, wow, what a powerful message today
for our young generation in this country. And he basically's traveling the States saying,
(33:58):
if you want to meet a WorldWar Two veteran, you know,
I'd love to shake your hand.And that's cool. It is pretty powerful
thing, and that's a great feelgood story for all of us. And
we're talking to David Muir hero onthe National Defense and I don't want to
I don't want to write a scriptfor you, David. I mean,
you know you've got people for that, You've got producers, but just try
this on for tonight's broadcast. Imean, if you just start out with,
(34:22):
hey, I was on this fabulousradio show today with two fabulous guys.
These two guys you're gonna meet himin a second. But I mean,
it's just something to play with it, you know, just just spitballing.
It's funny. I don't know.Did you get a chance to see
our lineup already? I have noidea how you do David, listen,
Thank you so much for the time. So I want to give a shout
(34:44):
out to everyone listening here. Randyand Jerry. You both do important work.
You get the word out about whatour troops are doing every day all
over the world to keep our countrysafe. And my pledge to everyone listening
and to all the troops the groundboat of the US and around the world,
is that we will stay at it. We know you're out there,
we know this sacrifice you're making,and you know we'll continue to do those
(35:07):
trips because they're important and it's ourway. It's our way to pay tribute
to you for your service. It'sthe least we can do. So thanks
for everything. You are the best. Yeah, thanks for everything you do.
Brother, Absolutely, David, thankyou so much. Thanks guys.
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you? Can you can you actuallytell when somebody's in love by simply looking
at their eyes? Now? Ican with my dogs. But any truth
today or is that just a cheesypickup line? Well, it can be
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I think I've never used it becausethe insider information. But the eyes have
a physiological response when we do seesomething that we like, now, whether
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slightly, really and it's almost liketrying to see more of what we like.
Correct, huh, Now see Iam not something you can I have
not something you can make, right, Yeah, yeah, I think I
had that. When I see mygolf ball very rarely headed toward the pen,
I think, my you looked atme about right then. But that's
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that can happen exactly. So itdoesn't only happen with the person you love,
right, No, No, itcan happen with the again, as
we said, like an unusual occurrencelike you're rolling in a forty foot put
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to be creepy. Well that's good. Yeah, that's good. You set
the stage for Valentine's faith, thenyou can Well that's what I wanted to
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