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September 23, 2025 25 mins
 . Maurice and Kafi discuss holiday traditions, cultural celebrations, and the evolving landscape of seasonal festivities, diving into topics from candy colors to diverse cultural food experiences. They explore the nuances of inclusivity and the joy of learning about different holiday customs.


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Speaker 3 (00:00):
Peppermint.

Speaker 4 (00:02):
What can the peppermint?

Speaker 3 (00:03):
What green and red?

Speaker 4 (00:08):
We'll talk about it right after this.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Let's talk about love and movement, the way of God
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
Hey, y'all, I don't know if y'all really heard conference question,
but she was asking a question about candy. So my
question to y'all who came up with the colors for
some of these candies? Is it all natural or somebody
just decided to say, hey, here's this particular candy.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
We know it's not natural because in some countries, this
red and white peppermint is banned because of red dye
number whatever is not healthy, and it's.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
I didn't know that part.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yes, that's why. Yeah, that's why those were hard to
find because red dye number forty or something. I don't know,
but I could be getting it wrong, but one of
the red dyes is not healthy. So that's why certain cereals,
certain candies are banned in other countries. And I think

(01:25):
they're starting to reduce it here in these states.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
That's very interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
But I think you know, because even when I did
get the peppermints, they're like on the bottom shelf.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Well, here's the question about that.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Then does that mean that you know, what's some things
called the things that go on Christmas tree?

Speaker 3 (01:49):
They don't go on Christmas tree. They're called candy canes.
Candy canes.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Yeah, yeah, you know, does candy canes? Are they going
to be banned too? Well?

Speaker 3 (02:00):
If you've noticed candy canes now come in so many
different flavors and colors.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, I've noticed that, so our son, she said that,
I noticed. I have no choice but to notice.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Our son decided for the last all. I'm sorry. I
just learned.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
You can't even say Christmas right now either, it's holiday.
I just learned that this week, because it's all inclusive.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Okay, well, holiday is every day throughout the beginning of
the years to the end of the year, so holiday
and depending what country you're in, because holiday means vacation
and some of europe peing. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Well, I learned from from one of my clients that
you know, there are certain words that can't use anymore.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
You can use whatever word you want to use.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Yeah, you can, but there's some consequences to it.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
It can be and you can deal with those consequences,
but that's the word you choose. To use, but use it.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Our sun last holiday Christmas holiday season, decided that because
his store was selling the wildest type of candy canes,
he bought a whole bunch of them and he wanted
us to try it. So I wasn't trying Coco pebbles,

(03:23):
but you like, it's one thing to like it the
cereals and here's yes, the cereal, but it's another thing
to try it as a candy cane.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
One number two. I don't I can't even tell you
the last time I had Coco pebbles.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yes, can you tell me to stop purchasing it?

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yes, And that's been some years, so I can't even
tell you what it even tastes like right now.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Your son has a habit of saying, hey, guys, I
bought something. I want you to try it. And I
was sitting here thinking, like, why would you buy twelve
candy canes, like you couldn't just get Why don't they
sell just like one one candy can? Yeah, so you
can see if you like, or like, maybe get a
multi pack, like, so have a Coco pebble and.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Yeah, he remember he bought that there was a multi pack. Yeah,
he bought a multipack that.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
That was airheads, and that was just different flavors, because
that's when you get airheads, you get different flavors.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
No one of them was it wasn't just airheads because
because the Coco pebbles one wasn't just all Coco pebbles.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
It was other cereals in that one too. And then the.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
One that had ray I just threw them out recently.
We had a whole It wasn't just four no, no, no,
there was like twelve round.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
I remember the box he had one of them was
like thirty six of them. Because I'm like, where in
the word we're gonna do all these candy canes. We
had almost one hundred. He bought almost one hundred candy canes.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
There was like four boxes, that's what I recalled.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Oh no, it was more than that because because remember
I threw a whole bunch out right after holiday as
we was taking the tree down, and it was something
I was like, I don't know about this one. I'm like,
but yeah, so I don't know what the choices are.
And with us going into the holiday season right now

(05:15):
or beginning the holiday.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Season, talk about holiday's season, why does candy cast so much.
I mean, it's no tariff on it, right, like I
think here, I mean, but I went to get candy
and it was nineteen dollars for a bag of candy. Okay,

(05:44):
I mean it was fifty pieces and they were fun sized,
like they weren't whole candy cane, I mean, whole pieces
of candy or anything. Look, we got to figure something
else out.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
So I guess y'all wondering why are my recent copper
talking about some.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Candy because we're sweet on you guys.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
Okay, this is stuff I gotta go through all the time.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
But it's these type of things as we go into
the holiday season we gotta consider. There's a few things,
as you said, one, uh, for those of you are
that are concerned about your health to die and all
that type of stuff. This sweet being the candy, also
the cost of something that you know. So so it's

(06:37):
all these things that we've had to consider over the
years as we raise our kids. But now that are
our children, people that were given to us by God
are now adults. They're now responsible for getting their own candy,
They're responsible for buying their own stuff.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
They're you know, they're uh, they're spending habits are crazy.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
And just like we just said about our son, try
want to try all these candy canes and only try
one and they had to throw them all out. That's crazy.
But I am reminded that I did the same thing.
I would do the same thing. I would try something
and oh wow, that wasn't the greatest and just throw

(07:22):
it out. Or it's the holiday season and we overcook something,
burn it, whatever it might be. Hey, you know what,
we're gonna put this chicken on the grill, and I
mean turkey on the grill. Maybe it'll tastes good, and
you know, maybe I'll cook it too long and it
really really dried out, or I didn't do what I

(07:43):
was supposed to do with it. Yeah, yes, yeah, And
with the holidays coming up, and you're probably like, hey, Maurice,
like it's not holiday season.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yes, it is when you go into the store. It
is like not even when you're in the store. I was.
We were driving through the neighborhood the other day and
I thought somebody was either trying to come out of
a window or get in a window, and I was like,
what is that? And as we approached this house, I

(08:20):
noticed that it wasn't a person. It was halloween decor
of something climbing up into like a ghost type thing,
but it was black climbing up into a window. And
I was like, wow, it's not even that time of

(08:43):
year yet, right, right, Like you guys are that excited
and anxious about this. But but then when you go
into the stores, they also have Halloween things out, and
how can we can say Halloween but we can't say Christmas?
Don't again, do I call that a holiday too? Hey,

(09:05):
it's holiday time, Happy holiday. I'm gonna say that. We'd
say happy holidays on Halloween and see what happens.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
I guess it's a holiday, I guess.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
But again, it's confusing because I work internationally and I
hear often, Oh, I'm going to be going for the
next two weeks and I'm going on holiday, right right?

Speaker 4 (09:28):
I mean I heard that too, you.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Know, So yeah, is it? So what do they call?
They just call it that day. They probably don't say
happy holidays. Yeah, I don't know what they do, because
that's happy vacations, right.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
I mean, it's very evident, you know, when we have.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Time off, you know, when people have time off in
a corporate America job, and those that are not from
this country are still willing to work, you know, very much.
So during that time, Hey, oh yeah that they office
is closed for Christmas break. Yeah, it's not Christmas to them,

(10:07):
you know. So how how do you talk about that?
How do you deal with that? You know, especially when
those individuals are kind of like, it's not a holiday
for me, so it's nothing for me to do. I'm
not celebrating it, you know. So yeah, and especially when
that's not my culture. So because we have our own

(10:30):
time that we celebrate something similar to this or whatever
it might be. So yeah, I don't know, that's that's
kind of weird. That's kind of off putting, and it
could be depending on the.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
Setting.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
It could also uh cause some distraction within the office
setting too, it could, you know. So how are how
are y'all out there even just preparing yourself for the
holiday season? For those of you who celebrate the holiday

(11:05):
albeit you know, whatever holiday that is Columbus Day, Indigenous Day,
Veterans Day, Thanksgiving Day, the day after Thanks Given Day.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Because right now that's the holiday right now?

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Then thinks then Christmas and then I feel like that
I'm missing.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Well, how many more am I missing.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
I'm sure there's a boxing day and.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Oh yeah something like that.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
You know, there's other days in the unboxing day every day, Yes, Russia, Hanka, yes, Alka.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Yeah, there's quite a few coming up.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
You've missed quite.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
A it's a few about this come up. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
This is the busy time of year.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, this is gonna be the fun time of year,
am I opinion, because you get to celebrate, you know,
hopefully everybody can kind of celebrate each other.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
And I hope each.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Of one of you, you know, out there learning each
other's culture, because to me, that's fun. Trying to understand
how my coworker is doing this and that, and you
know how they celebrating food. Like we're talking about Candy
Knes right way. What is that candy? I can't remember,

(12:26):
and I don't want to disrespect it. I don't want to,
you know, go all crazy, you know, but uh but yeah,
you know, just understanding different cultures and all that type
of stuff.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
It's it's been really interesting for me.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
And being able to respect them, those individuals.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Sharing and food.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
I remember going to the Indian restaurant, you know whatever,
like you know, with my coworker and my supervisor.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
So yeah, it was kind of it was kind of
fun during the holiday season.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
So I think it's different when you can experience some
of that with someone from that culture versus you just
going to what you said, Indian restaurant, just going to
that on your own. So when you have, I guess
a tour guide that it just feels a little bit different.

(13:20):
You know, like you said, you're learning something about it,
have more information because it's certainly the waitress, waiter, host hostess,
whatever they're called now can provide you with some information,
but you know, when that person sitting at the table
with you, I think it just provides a much more

(13:43):
deeper experience.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Well, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
I agree because my coworker whose family's actually from India,
and she was able to explain the food, the certain
food that they might eat for a certain holiday or situation,
and the significance of it, that taste, you know, all
those type of things you know, to be able to

(14:07):
express it. So she So I think that makes a
word of a difference.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
I think when you say that, like like you said,
there's certain foods for certain reasons, and when you think
about like your other coworker Jewish culture, like they have
certain foods for certain holidays, right, but they don't call
it soul food where we call you know, in the
Black American culture, we call it soul food. But a

(14:35):
lot of our foods are the same foods no matter
what holiday it is, no matter what the occasion is.
I don't want to make the same old thing, you know,
every time you have something that's going to be the same,
unless you're having, I guess, a cookout, then you may
have a few other things. But even with that, Like

(14:57):
I've been to cookouts, I'm like, that's not even cookout food.
That's like Thanksgiving food. But they had a pot of greens,
you know, so.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
I guess because of the situation I eat a cookout,
you almost viewed that as.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Almost finger food.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yes, even though you might eat a corn, I ear
a corn, but still technically finger food.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah, you're using your fingers to eat the corn. I
don't know, nobody's gonna I mean, I guess you could
sit there and cut the corn off the cob, but like, yeah,
that's that's finger food. That's stuff that you're just a hamburger.
Everything is in your hand, right.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Red chicken, you know, hot dog, hot sausage, kebasa. The
only thing that's not in your hand is the salads. Yes,
and sometimes so to to your point, from even from
our culture perspective, in most cases, the macaroni and tuna, macaroni,

(15:58):
pasta salad, potato salad. A lot of times that's not
really hitting a Thanksgiving or Christmas table, at least they
used to. Right now, everything is being so intertwined and consistent, like, Hey,
we're gonna eat the same thing for every holiday because
we know that we're going to get at least one
thing that we like and may she made it, said.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
My grandma be like, what are you gonna have for Thanksgiving?
You want to make potato salad?

Speaker 4 (16:26):
I said, that's not.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
For Thanksgiving, that's a cold it like that doesn't seem
I don't know. It just doesn't seem to go with
me for Thanksgiving. Like if you're gonna have a potato,
give me mashed potatoes, sweet potato.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Yet but not rusted potatoes.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Exactly, don't do. I don't think I want a potato
salad like that just to meet it says cookout. That
says summertime, that says coolness, that says something different than
because even so, like you know, when you go to cookout, yo,
where is salads in the fridge on a cool like
you know to look for that. I mean, I think
somebody one holiday we allowed her to make a potato

(17:08):
salad and we totally forgot about it. It wasn't until
like we would get ready served dessert and we went
to get whipped cream out the refrigerator. It was like,
oh man, we forgot she made potato salad. Anybody want
potato salad? But the piece of cake.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
And Poe, I mean, that wasn't with us, was it.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
I think it was at her house, Okay, yeah, or yeah,
something like that.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
I don't remembering.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
I maybe you don't like potato salad that she made,
so that might be a difference. But yeah, it's just
certain things just don't go. But and I think that's
the difference in our culture. Like I don't think we
have a food that we only eat at a certain time,

(17:57):
you know, So.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
I mean I think I think again, I think we have,
but again because no we had I had. I think
right now is just so missmar everything so miss.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
You know that.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
I guess I guess there's there are some things maybe
so like for Thanksgiving, you know, like everybody's not making lamb.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
For uh what why I.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Got be all that.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Go ahead? There was? It was not making the lamb
for a cookout go ahead, which is true. I don't
see much lamb. It passed around the cookout.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Time, and I don't necessarily see so much steak at
a Thanksgiving on Christmas, Okay, not necessarily now I.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Don't see many steaks at cookouts either. That was you again,
he having lamb and you know, wreck of what's the
other thing?

Speaker 4 (19:00):
You have nothing? So anywhere?

Speaker 3 (19:04):
What is it called? Was a rack of lamb? And
then you have a lamb shot la lake or I mean.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
Yeah, you can have a lamb chop. You could have
I mean no, it's a lamb. It's a lamb chop.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
And then it's also the crown thing that a Pauline makes,
like so many different lamb dishes. But a lot of
times you're not having that for the cookout. You're more
or less having that for the other Yes, yes, you
know steak like you said me and myself, Yes, did
I throw steaks on the grill?

Speaker 4 (19:36):
I definitely did.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
I was trying to have a real corner vore type experience.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
The steak you got, you can certainly pick those again
up right, you know by hand. It wasn't huge tea
bone steaks that you were getting, but nah, you only
had you know, a few for the special folks that
wanted them. But it's also okay, it's it's almost equivalent
to crab, you know what I mean. So when you
get that, you know you're gonna sit down for a minute,

(20:05):
and it's almost like.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
What you know, the other day, you know, we had
going to a restaurant to celebrate our anniversary, and or
the menu you could have ordered crab legs. Now it
sounded nice, but as I said to Coffin, I said,
I would have just worn some bummy clothes.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Right, we were dressed anniversary like and didn't want.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
To yeah, like you know.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
So and then I talked to my brother, you know,
he was like, have you been in Red Lobster? You know,
did you get the crab boil?

Speaker 4 (20:40):
I said.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
No, because again I want to sit down at home
and eat crabs. He said, He's like, crabs is too
much work, you know. He was like, like, that's too
much work for that little bit of meat, which I
totally agree.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
It is, like that's the fun in the experience of
it all.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
It's not fun, especially when you got no patience, tolerance
understanding that you know, like there there's a like you
shed your your shell. Now you could have shed it
before you die, but.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Cooked alive, so they don't shed it beforehand. I mean,
I guess, yeah, can somebody Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
You take it all up before you before you serve
it out of it.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
Yeah, I don't know. You know.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
So I know we covered a whole lot about food
and candy and holidays, but it's because we have been
in relative celebration mode, whether it's you know, I'm gonna
say there's one phrase, celebration of life.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
But it's been literally all over the place.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
When if I say that term people moving and a
verse read birthday, people passing away, other achievements, like it's.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Been so.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
It's so much going on, It's so much going on,
new experiences. It's been so much going on. So let
us know what you know, even for yourself, what have
been like for you over the last month or so,
Even though I've been sick, there's still a lot been
going on. And I'm on the mend. I'm getting better.

(22:29):
I don't know if you can hear like I'm still
coughing a little bit in the background. But the reality
has been what's kept my spirits up is that all
this stuff has been going on.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Oh goodness, we have to do some live shows and
some recordings so that you guys can see these face.
But yeah, I've been keeping Maurice's spirits up, and I've
been making him h get better, helping him to get better.
I haven't made him get better. I've been helping him

(23:06):
to get better so that he could be here with
you as well and share the joy. Why are you
not speaking now? You're just smiling at me. It's so nice.

(23:27):
I don't know, you do know it's the truth. But anyway,
so as Maurice saying, share with us, just what's going
on in your world? You know? And do you know
why spearmint candy is green and peppermint candy is red?
I don't understand who chose those colors. I mean, we

(23:51):
have a whole story in Christian world in reference to
the candy cane and why it's red and white. But
I think before the candy cane, there were just peppermints,
and those were red and white. But these spearmint candies
that Maurice has now are green and white, and why
is that? Just want to know, Inquiry minds, want to know.

(24:17):
Share with us your thoughts and we'll appreciate them, just
like you appreciate hearing our thoughts. So thank you all,
so so much for listening to us, and we bid
you ad thanks for tuning in to another episode of
a No Fruit podcast, where we bring you fruitful conversations,

(24:39):
ripen wisdom and love that's deeply rooted. If you enjoyed
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and share it with someone who.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
Could use a little inspiration in their death.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Until next time, stay rooted in love and remember every
seed you plant today shapes the fruit of tomorrow.
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