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May 13, 2025 29 mins

In this powerful episode of The No Fruit Podcast, Kafi and Maurice sit down with Dr. Bruce Chalmer, a relationship expert and author, and his wife Judy Alexander, an educator, to uncover the "two golden gifts" that every thriving relationship needs: stability and intimacy. 

Bruce explains why these two elements are not just nice to have—but absolutely essential. Without stability, relationships crumble under the weight of insecurity. Without intimacy, they become emotionally barren. Together, they create the trust, depth, and excitement that allow love to truly flourish.

Whether you’re dating, married, or somewhere in between, this conversation offers profound insights and practical advice that can transform the way you show up for your partner—and for yourself.

If you’re ready to build a love that lasts, don’t miss this episode filled with warmth, wisdom, and real-world strategies.


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