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October 7, 2025 39 mins
  Maurice and Kafi share impactful lessons from their Puerto Rico trip, revealing how stepping away from routine helped them rediscover joy and deepen their marital bond. They discuss the power of unplugging to foster presence, trust, and genuine connection in a long-term relationship.
  • Cultivate Presence: Actively focus on the present moment, rather than distractions.
  • Practice Letting Go: Release the need for control over plans and situations.
  • Build Trust: Rely on your partner and others, especially in new environments.
  • Reconnect Intentionally: Create space for shared laughter, tenderness, and quiet reflection.
  • Redefine Partnership: View your spouse as a companion in grace, love, and prosperity, beyond daily survival.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Sometimes you have to step away from your routine to
see what really matters. Seeing Puerto Rico, we didn't just
find sunset sunshine, We found each other. We're talking about
arfter this, let's.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Talk about loving them man, the way I've got intend
like fixspeare, shap.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Help transform. What's going on y'all, what's going on y'all?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hey, what's going on?

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Everything as well? Everything as well. So if you heard
the hook, Kauf and I went to Puerto Rico.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
And in that.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
There's a lot of things that we that I learned
on that trip. And here is something the idea that
I want this show to kind of take on. The
idea is choosing to take a moment to unplug. It's

(01:16):
not always about escaping real life or real life situations,
but it could be about engaging it re engaging it
as well. So when you learn to truly be present,
you'll rediscover laughter, tenderness, and the quiet moments that keep

(01:36):
love alive. And I said, I'm saying that or the
idea because one of the things that I learned in
taking this trip, I've learned how to let go. Because
if you listen to other episodes or whatever, it is,

(01:57):
I had every trip that we have gone on since
we've been married, I had driven. When we went to
Atlanta the very first time I drove, and we chuckled
about that on a previous episode, how Kafa drove all
of zero zero point zero zero five seconds, you know,

(02:18):
in that drive. But when we went to Atlanta the
second time we flew, we took public transportation and whatnot.
So even with us going to Puerto Rico, we started
off the trip, well, let's start off with the very beginning,
which is we took public transportation for our from our

(02:40):
home to the airport, where most people would just hop
on the Uber or whatever it is. I said, listen,
I'm gonna let go all the way, and so we
hopped on public transportation. This is my decision. This wasn't confident,
it was mine. Hopped on public transport. And then when

(03:02):
we get there, we you know, we hop in a cab,
which I wasn't really too fond of, and initially just
because of how aggressive some of them were or whatever,
but we hopped in a cab. We even took Uber
to and from some locations while we were there, and

(03:25):
then took an Uber back. And then even when we
had come home. We took a cab home. I didn't
feel like waiting for the bus coming home.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
But but just to talk about letting go with all
of that, it's one thing to take public transportation attacks
or uber here at home, you can communicate where you're going.
You kind of have a somewhat of an idea of

(03:54):
the streets, the streets signs, you have an idea of
where you may be going. But to go to another
state that you haven't been before, let alone another state
that mostly speaks another language, street signs or not in

(04:15):
your native tongue, billboards, posters not in your native tongue,
what's on the radio, you don't understand all you know,
and what your driver is asking or saying somewhat. You know,
you gotta let go. You know, you really really have

(04:37):
to let go because you really have to trust a
whole lot in order to travel. There's a lot, a
lot of a lot of trust. Or as Marie is saying,
he's letting go. But with with letting go, you're trusting,
You're trusting somebody else to make those right turns or

(04:59):
left turn and miss those pockets in the air. So
you don't have very much turbulence. You know, you're you're
trusting a lot with all of that, You're trusting others
with your luggage because you kind of let that go
for a little while, you know. So it was truly
eye opening for me to see how things operate, and

(05:24):
you know, and again we've done a few trips recently,
so just to see one how one airport and their
staff operate versus another. And even in the one that
we've gone to be in our hometown, seeing it morning
versus afternoon or later in the day or earlier in

(05:48):
the day, like it. It just was two different ways
that the first one we had gone to the airport
here in our hometown, there was no line. You just
kind of walk right on up. The next time we
got there like well why we stop at the steps?
What's going on? And we're looking around like, well, why
is no one moving? So then it became apparent to

(06:12):
us that when we came through a different door, and
then two we were all waiting for TSA to get
their you know, things together and help move us through
the little cattle shoots.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
So I think also for those two moments, just just
going through the Philadelphia Airport, I do believe we ended
up going through the same ts A place, yes, but
like you just stated, we had come in on two
different floors initially, but we still went through the relatively

(06:46):
the same TSA gate and in that one, two totally
different days at two totally different times, yes, And so
I think that assisted in that as well. But going
back to what Kafa was talking about as far as trust,

(07:08):
it has taken a lot for me to get to
that point because I have been so used to taking
that initiative to drive to do all the above. And
so what happened is this is where the part of
where this kind of can transform your life of if

(07:31):
you're present in the moment, because even in those moments
in the past I would have been, so I'm paying
attention to this person, I'm paying attention to that person,
and let allow that to really overtake me being in
the moment and being able to enjoy what we're going through.
So even though I don't know how many people that

(07:53):
kind of enjoys going through TSA stuff, but I was
able to be in the moment right And by the
time we had gotten back, you know, on our way back,
I had I was, I was, yeah, I was, I
was like, I wasn't doing that far, but but you know,
I was a little more relaxed with that. But even flying,

(08:19):
enjoying my little you know, baby biscuits or whatever. You know,
you're able to enjoy the moment. And that's even before
and after the trip. That's not even during the trip.
So what happens is is that now you get to
take that time to enjoy again the moment you know,

(08:46):
of being there in a whole new place and as
confasating a whole new place that not only is just
a new place, but the language, the culture, everything is
something that you're not used to experiencing. You know. Did
I work in places where about fifty percent of the

(09:09):
workforce and where I worked at insurance company wise felt
like it was well, I felt like it was fifty percent.
Might not have been fifty, but it was a large
number that were people of Latin descent, you know, Spanish
speaking individuals. It was I was around them all the time.
Even for yourself, CoV you know, you had a few
as well, you know, in certain places that you worked.

(09:30):
You know, but and even when I had gone and
we had gone to Puerto Rico and had some food,
you know, You're like, all right, well, somebody asked me
to taste this in another place for space, and mentally
I just wasn't there. They're like, I don't know about that.
I mean even when I had someone from her her
ancestors actually from India and had some of her food

(09:54):
or whatever, we went to an actual restaurant. I was
a little more open minded by that time because I'm like, well,
taste of Hispanic food, you know, I can try you know,
the Indian food, yes, and you know, but but you know,
but that was we're talking well over, that's dad going on.
That's well over fifteen years ago, you know. So so

(10:16):
now when you're sitting here in this other culture and
you're really open minded to it and you're able to
enjoy it, you're able to express to whoever is serving you, hey,
you know, you're doing everything with a smile, whatever it
might be. It helps out a lot because in those

(10:38):
moments of not being overprotective, of not being uh or
or you know, how to relax in your protection right,
or being able to have a conversation where you're genuinely
trying to understand and or explain and or over explain.

(11:04):
You know, if you will. But also it creates an
opportunity moments to enjoy your loved one while you're there.
And I think that's something that I had to learn
and how to get to because then you know, you're

(11:26):
able to say whatever you might have said, you know,
at that particular moment. It could have been anything from hey,
you enjoyed playing air hockey. It didn't matter, you know,
but you you're saying it in a more loving, caring
way and not worried about whether you know I'm there
because I'm paying attention to the what's going on at

(11:46):
the door, or I'm paying attention to the people at
the table next to us, which, in all honesty, until
the dog work, I never even saw the dog. Do
you remember that table that the people at the We
went to this restaurant called a Havana, and I'm pretty
sure I'm not I know, I'm not saying the way
they said it there. But we went to a restaurant,

(12:07):
beautiful restaurant. It was fabulous food. I mean, it was
great for those of you who had mufungo. That was
a great place to go. Now, granted we could have
gone maybe somewhere there might have been a little more cultural,
I guess, and experiencing it, you know, versus something that

(12:29):
might I'm not sure if that place is a little
more commercial or not. I'm not sure. It was still
good though. But the whole time we were there, they
had a whole dog over there, you know, at the
table right next to us. I never even saw the dog.
Now granted it was a little, little little dog, but
I never even saw the dog. Didn't even hear the dog.

(12:50):
I didn't hear the dog until they were ready to
get up and leave, you know. And so but that'n less,
you know, how I relaxed, and I wasn't trying to
look and overlook and overpay attention or whatever it was
to certain situations. Now that could be at flaw as well.

(13:11):
But they hit the dog very well, you know, any
you know, also because like I said, I didn't see it.
It didn't move. And the lady maybe I don't know,
she was sitting on the dog. I don't know what
she was doing.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
I think the dog was like in her lap. And
I know that they were feeding the dog and things
like that. I mean, but again I was sitting closer
to that table so I could overhear what was going
on when the waiter came by and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Okay, I mean and so yeah, and they weren't he
the waiter, he wasn't talking very loud. He was animated,
but wasn't talking very loud. And then the person that
for my angle of where the lady was, there was
a guy sitting you know, I could not see and
I wasn't gonna try to like look all the way
around him either, you know, again not being in a

(13:54):
true I need to protect mode, you know, as well
or over exaggerated. Maybe that's a better way of putting it,
you know. So that allowed better moments of laughter, of enjoyment,
of as I said, tenderness earlier, even quiet moments of

(14:18):
genuine quiet moments, not hey, you're quiet, and I can
tell something else is on your mind, you give it
to me, or you're not even here. And so I
do believe that unplugging being, you know, and moving in
an unscripted way allows you to relax. And it allowed

(14:43):
me to really relax in a manner that I haven't
had now in understanding some of the control part because
we're used to it. There were times where we're like, hey,
if we had the car, we would have left right.
You know, we have moments like that, but overall, it

(15:05):
was probably, as I said to Kafa, I'll let y'all
know that it was probably the best experience I ever
had in my life. There was nothing, there's nothing else
that I can compare to it. It really isn't because
the one going with KPFA. That's first and foremost number two.

(15:32):
Being able to relax. Again, we're talking about unscripted. We
didn't have a oh, well, we want to go visit this, this, this,
and this like we started to and I'm glad we
didn't do that because I had an experience that I
don't recall ever really having, which is just laying by
a pool more than you know, fifteen minutes. You know.

(15:55):
We laid there by the pool at the resort with
the sun beat me down on my face, you know.
And I told Kyle, like, I don't know last time
I was allowed the son to just beat my face
like that, when no hat on or nothing else, Like
I was truly in my you know, down south.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
You know, my family's from down south, you know, beyond
the southern border.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
You know. So I had not been in that space
or that mindset in a very long time. So it
was truly something that I realized being unscripted, not you know,

(16:38):
trying to control the environment necessarily, because even though if
you're quiet, you're laid back, you're calm, you're still controlling
because you're relatively controlling everyone else because if you're quiet
and you're calm, it almost forces them to be quiet too.

(17:01):
If you are even though you can speak authoritatively right
and know that, let people know that you are, you're
attentive to them, you know, uh, and not so much passive,
but but letting people know that, hey, I'm really enjoying
myself and you get other you know, experiences. So I

(17:24):
think that's one of the things that I learned from
this trip, of not being in control, being unscripted, and
allowing our fun, our laughter, our enjoyment, our holding hands,
you know, our newtle beverages, you know, to you know, ah,

(17:46):
to really enjoy the moment, you know. So that's some
of the things that I had learned. So I'm sorry
I had going on in tangent but cough.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Well, a few things are going through my mind. But
the first thing that comes to my mind is that
we kind of looked at this trip as a second honeymoon.
But within the second honeymoon there were a lot of firsts.

(18:15):
So first being again the long flight, the layover. Never
ever have I had to run through an airport. I
think we had to go almost a mile in less
than a half hour or twenty minutes. Well, we landed.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Whatever it was, it was not long enough because I
had to take a tinkle, you know, it was.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Whatever it was, it was not a We landed late
with the first flight, and then we had to kind
of get from one number I would say it was
single digits up to like gate forty something.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Now that one was the reverse. Oh okay, so going
to yeah, we was at forty something, had to go
down and had to.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Go down to single digit okay, great, Well anyway, yeah,
we should have had skates on. It would have been
a great place to roller skate that. I mean, the
floors were immaculate and we could have you know, rolled
right on along with our luggage. But yeah, that was
interesting because I think one shoe of mine wasn't tied alone.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Is that when your sock kept your shoe kept eating
your sockeyear.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, yeah, so I just had some footwear issues, but
was determined to get there. You know, we're like, we're
gonna get.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
There, And now it was having built issues as well.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Again, so and it seemed like forever, like every time
we thought we would get to the number, the sign
would be like, yeah, you know, single digits are this way,
and then we would get there and it would be
like no, these are you know, twenties, and we're like no,
like how much further do we have to go? So
we finally finally get there, and I think I don't

(20:04):
I don't even remember. It's all running a blur to
me whether or not we had enough time to get
to the restroom. I think we didn't that particular time
of just like you know, we're the next group going in,
like they've already loaded everybody else. They're just kind of yeah,
we were.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Like really like the last people on, like we were.
I think by the time we got on, it was
only seven people behind us, you know, before they closed
the door.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, we made it just And then so again that
was one of the first of having to you know,
just all the commercials from back in the day where
people were running through the airport kind of went through
my mind like okay, you know, so I felt very
much like that. I'm happy that we made our connection.

(20:52):
I don't know if I want to continue to do
that again, because we originally had a flight and there
was a huge layover like two hours, I believe, if
not more, and we were like I want to go
on my vacation, like, I don't want to sit in
the airport for that long. So we were able to
find a flight with a shorter connection, and we did that.

(21:15):
But looking back hindsight, I think we.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Made we want we may, especially when you understand that
you have some infirmities, right, you know, so if you
have issues with your sneaker eating your sock, that's a problem, right,
you know, if you have issues like for example, like
my knee was like Maurice, we don't We're not used
to moving this fast, right, you know. And so the luggage,

(21:38):
you know what I forgot that I had all these bags.
So not only am I killing coffers toes or feet
with the bag, you know whatever else, but I'm also
bumping other people. But some of them don't want to
move out the way, you know, and so and people
are looking like, hey, are you going to say excuse me? No,

(21:58):
I'm not because guess what I'm lak for my flight,
you know. So you know, so basically those are the
things that that and that that mile. I think we
was going from gate forty three or something. I feel
like it was forty three to gate nine or something
like that. It was a waste. I'm sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
So, as you said, you know, we're rediscovering laughter. So
I think we can sit back now and laugh about
it of how we did that in that amount of time.
And we were looking on the app and saw, you know,
how long it would take to do this, and you
know again they were like, oh, it's only going to

(22:39):
take twenty minutes or whatever, and we're like, okay, we
have time, we can do this. No, it doesn't take
an account people. It doesn't take an account the wheelchairs,
it doesn't take an account the little tram car van.
You know, it didn't take those things into account.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
I don't take an account, you know, trying to just
get off the dog on plane itself. I mean, it'll
be different if we were literally in first class or
first seat. And that's one thing, right, you know, hey,
we can get off. But one of the things that
I did learn in that was that everyone does not
put their luggage in the right place, you know, and
so that hinders your travel too.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
So yes, so those are one of the things I
think that I can look back at least on the
flight and laugh about, you know. And then of course
just just being there in what some would consider, you know,
a nature's paradise of the water, the ocean, the sun,

(23:38):
all of those things which were beautiful the first day.
Then came day two of our trip, and with the
water it became more intense, meaning that a storm approached
and the water came from the sky and not just

(24:00):
the ocean waves and things like that. But some people
would think like that would kind of ruin the time.
But I think for me, and I think I can
speak for you res that that drew us closer together
because we weren't trying to be out and about and
find a restaurant and out and about and trying to

(24:21):
see the sights. It was you know, hey, this is
our quiet time, our quiet moment. We just sat and
watched the ocean, we watched the storm come in, and
we just held each other and that woman brace. It
was just that quiet time. It wasn't like, oh, hey,
let's figure out what to talk about and you know

(24:42):
what we're going to do in the podcast, and what
are we going to do? You know, wonder what everybody
else is doing back at home, and let's look in
our phones and see what's going on. No, it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
It was just true.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
At times it was just like us in God, you know.
So it was very much a good, good time to reconnect.
And I would say everybody you know needs to find
time to get away from there every day to have

(25:18):
those types of experiences. What about yourself?

Speaker 1 (25:22):
I mean I think that again some of these things
that were unscripted or or not being scheduled, if you will,
you know, you said something about the storm, right and
with the storm, if the way the storm had come in,
because we were thinking about doing a tour at that

(25:45):
time and it was purely an outside tour, and so
what would have happened if we had scheduled that, like
we were looking forward to it. We're already you know,
to go, go, go, go go, and we go to
our pick up. I think we had to go to
a pickup location for the tour, you know, And my
mind was if I would have scheduled and been at

(26:09):
that pickup time or Big Cup place or whatever it was,
because it wasn't on site, it was somewhere else. So
if I would have done that, where would I have been? Mentally?
You know, especially in the past, I would have been frustrated.
I would be like, oh, man, I know we should
have done whatever. Now we're kind of stuck. So are
we what are we going to do? Are we going

(26:29):
to sit here and wait? Or what? You know? What
is it? What's going to happen? And so by taking
things slow, by taking things as they were coming, if
you will, then it allowed those quiet moments, as you stated,

(26:49):
it allowed the situation to say, you know, in that situation, like,
you know what, I'd rather be here anyway than to
be out there in the rain. I would rather be
out here, being here and now in the air conditioning
and be out there in the lunkiness, you know whatever
it might have been. So so it allowed other opportunities

(27:13):
to happen that in other cases would not have if
we had it written out, scripted out, because we looked,
we looked, and to some degree at one point in
time was like, man, we should have. But then again
other things took its place, and I'm kind of glad

(27:34):
that I did not go that route. You know, I
didn't have my heart totally set on this or that
and felt like if we didn't do this, like it
was a waste of time and you know whatever. So
I think again, having those moments that are unscripted, having
those moments that allow you to maneuver and around life

(27:58):
and you know, because you never know what's going to
to you. So I think that's one of the things
that really really had done for me, you know, again,
being being.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Relaxed, I mean, and I think being able to pivot
when need be. You know, we certainly did all of
our homework prior to the trip. We found places to go,
like you said, we found tours, We found things that
we could do on our own, things that we could

(28:31):
do in a group. We found places to eat, places
to go and you know that were famous places in
the area. We found things that we could do, and
we had a list of all of.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Those things, and like you said, we encountered some of.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Them, right, And I'm not saying we didn't do any
of them. I'm just, you know, saying that we had
a list, we did our homework, we were prepared. But
sometimes you know, and I don't know if the weather
was nice. What we have done more, but you know,
God allowed it so that we had a half of
you know, not the whole day it didn't rain, but

(29:10):
most of the daytime it rained. So if we didn't
have that, you know what we have had that encounter
of being close and all and finding each other the
way that you said in the beginning of the show
that you know, we went there seeking warmth and sunshine, right,
you know what I mean. But we came away with

(29:33):
certainly warmth of each other and a better renewedeness in
our relationship and in our marriage. And we found the warmth,
you know, we rediscovered each other and some of the
things that we didn't know maybe about ourselves or we
didn't know about each other. So Maurray's was saying, you know,

(29:56):
newfound foods. I think you ordered tuna the first night.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
What is that?

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah, right, right right, we went.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
To I mean, I mean, and that's those are the
type of things I mean, because the tuna was raw,
it was in sesame and soy and you know, you
know whatever it might have had on it with sabby
which wasn't hot and so or spicy, you know, but
again those type of things were like you eat that.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
You know, he was just he just fell in low,
you like, his emotions just came over him and he
took a bite and I was just like, Okay, it
can't be that good. Let me try it.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Oh she didn't like it.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah it was not.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
It wasn't for her. But but again, you know, it's
those type of situations we were like, oh wow, you
know it's something different, right, and I had this is
something that I've never seen from you before, you know.
And so so I think those type of things is
what helps you to re engage in life because it's like, hey,

(31:08):
you know what, maybe I need to rethink, revisit, reevaluate,
you know, my perception on any and all these things
to say, you know what, maybe maybe I do need
to try that. And so even when it came to
the mufung goo, right, you know, I thought I really

(31:29):
didn't like plantains, That's what I thought. But it might
be the way it's prepared or whatever it is, because
in all reality, it doesn't have a taste, you know,
at least from what people have been saying to me recently,
and then it just takes on the taste or whatever
it's in or around or whatever, and then and so
what it is having a moufung go. I'm like, oh wow,

(31:51):
that's good, you know. And so I think those are
the things that again, trying something new, and especially when
you're trying something new with your loved one, you know,
someone that you can say your love life partner is like,
oh wow, can I do? I want to experience this again. Now,

(32:12):
now here's the flip side of this for all of
you that are listening right because confimators statement earlier about
us not using our phones and stuff, see, the challenges
is that who are we? We're podcasters and we're content creators.
And so those of you that are like us probably
would have taken pictures of your food and stuff. Now,

(32:35):
let me be honest, we took pictures, y'all just ain't
seeing them. I haven't posted any cop did you, right,
you know? And so do we have to show off
any and everything that we're doing, especially in this thing
called life. Everyone doesn't have to be a part of

(32:57):
our whole process. Everyone doesn't have to be a part of,
you know, what we are experiencing. Because there are some things,
as we're stating, we sometimes you have to regroup, reevaluate,
you know, reanalyze, rejuvenate, re engage, you know, all these

(33:17):
rewords with the prefix re you know, to say, you
know what, why are we together? Why have we lasted
this long? For us? You know, twenty five years? Why
have we lasted this long? You know? And if any
of you that are following on social media more importantly

(33:37):
my personal Facebook page, you know, there's a thing on it,
and I think it was most important. Then I said
one you know where it's two parts. One of it
was when you vowed to love each other through sickness
and in health, and Kuf and I talked about this
understanding that sickness and in health goes beyond someone having

(34:01):
a fever, goes beyond someone laughing, you know whatever, smiling
is all the above, because how much how many things
do you really go through? Mental health, emotional health, physical health,
even spiritual health. When you go through all those things,
and a twenty five year period, you know, when you've

(34:22):
been through almost anything, you can imagine you're affected by
one way or another and understanding and to to to
put in an even full perspective. The day before our anniversary,
our daughter went through a major life change, right, you know,

(34:44):
job whatever it might have been job related, whatever it
might have been, is our anniversary. And then I had
to the following day, I had to go to a funeral.
So the question is, how do you do? How do
you deal with that? That's real life, that's everyday life stuff, right,
And that funeral was a family member who had just

(35:07):
hit one hundred years old, just hit one hundred, right,
And so how do you you you celebrating one person
because they have some really great things going on in
their lives, but then there's one person who is no
longer here in the uh natural realm. I guess I

(35:28):
don't know another way to put it, you know whatever,
you know, so, but you're going to this funeral, but
you also under you have to also understand, ah, this
is also a celebration life too, because this individual saw
one hundred. Everyone doesn't see that. Everyone does deal with that,
and it wasn't. But when you say, you know, you

(35:49):
have this celebration that you go to a funeral, some
people might be like, oh wow, like I'm so sorry
for you, Like that's such a roller coaster. In some ways,
it is, but that's the way life is. So so
when you talk about in sickness, and in health that
is part of that, because how do you deal with
someone's emotions in that situation that's not a great thing,

(36:12):
that's not a great feeling. And then and then the
other the last part of that, before I had ended
it off, was saying I apologize. Knowing to say I
apologize because that is a piece that a lot of
people's egos and everything else kind of gets in the way,

(36:33):
and that has been one aspect of our relationship to say,
you know what. We might not being able to say
the word directly I apology, the words I apologize, but
you kind of get the sense based off of you
knowing the individual, how they speak and their attitude or
you know, whatever it is. Sometimes you do want to
hear the words, but you also have to give that

(36:54):
person grace as well, because you really don't know all
everything that they're dealing with in that moment, and even
for them just to acknowledge it sometimes is enough. So yeah,
I just want you all to know that in this
place of being unplugged, unscripted, and the last part of

(37:18):
that being unshaken, because in that it made us understand,
at least for myself, that the roots that we have
at twenty five years. It's hard for us to root us.
You know, it's not the easiest thing to do. I mean,
we've been through a lot. We've been through a lot,

(37:38):
and we'll talk about it a little later on, just
you know, looking at and what we really experienced in
Puerto Rico a little deeper, but and things that we
have seen. But overall, just dealing with the initial of
not allowing that every day, mundane routine of life affect us.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, you said at all.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
I said at all, you know. So so I just
want to say this as we close out, I just
want you to as I as I just stated, you know,
I don't want you to take life's responsibilities, you know,
and do allow that to continue to be that that

(38:30):
item that you know, or that task or that responsibility
or whatever the situation might be. Because every time you
go on a trip, like you know, I don't need
you to have that list. Sometimes you do need to unplug,
you know. So when you intentionally pause, take a step
back and look at what's before you. For me was
my beautiful wife and her smile. You remember that your

(38:53):
partner isn't your coworker and survival, but they're your companion
and grace, love and prosperity, you know. And so I
thank y'all very much for listening today. Thank you so much,
and we will talk to y'all real soon. I tell

(39:14):
you I was going to say a little bit later,
like I say, talk to y'all.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Thanks for tuning in to another episode of a No
Fruit podcast, where we bring you fruitful conversations, ripen wisdom
and love that's deeply rooted.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe, leave
us a review, and share it with someone who could
use a little inspiration in their death. Until next time,
stay rooted in love, and remember every seed you plant
today shapes the fruit of tomorrow.
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