Ep. 312 - Zanna Wolfgang Revisited

It's been 3 years since we first met with with Zanna Wolfgang. It's time to catch up and see what challenges and growth have happened since we last sat down.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the On Purpose Podcast, your guide
to living a more purposeful life. What's up, everybody? Welcome
to this week's edition of the On Purpose Podcast, where
it's our privilege to show up with you each and
every week to bring you stories that inspire, get you thinking, reflecting,
moving a little bit. And this one's no different. This

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one is when I bring somebody back for a second time.
I always find that to be super special because that
means our friendship that we built over the first episode
is continued on and they're staying in the space of
continuing to show up like it wasn't a one time
deal that we were able to capture and the first time,
but no, they're continuing to progress and give back and

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challenge their lives and the lives of those around them
and continue to make it better. So this week I'm
excited to welcome back a familiar face and somebody that
I would say is a force for resilience. Xana Wolfgang,
the founder of Thrive Ranch and Honor the Brave. The
last time she joined us her mission to support first
responder families and help individuals move from surviving to thriving.

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This time we're going to dive deeper into the lesson
she learned on the journey, because the first time we
sat down and talked with her was episode one hundred
and sixty four way back on June ninth, twenty twenty two.
So over the last three years, we're going to figure
out what she's learned about living with purpose, the importance
of connection, and how intentional living can transform the lives

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and not on her family, but those around us. Xana's
work continues to inspire and we're honored to have her
back for what I know will be another impactful episode.
So get ready to listen and enjoy this conversation with
Xanna Wolfgang. Whoa, whoa, whoa. But before you do, sorry
about that. Before you do, I know you just got

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It's to be the most impactful and that means we
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only do that by helping spread the world and having
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would be greatly appreciated. And now now that you've done that,
enjoy this week's conversation with Xana Wolfgang. Honor the Brave

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Visit Honor the Brave dot com. We've got your six. Xana,
my friend, what a pleasure it is to see your

(03:11):
face on the camera and welcome back to this show.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Oh, I'm so thankful to be here.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
I was getting ready for this. I was like, all right,
let me see when you were on the show. It
was June ninth, twenty twenty two, and I only knew
you from social media.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Then right that lots of evolutions and said, my goodness,
And I gotta tell you, I'm so proud of you, guys.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
I'm proud of you and your whole family. Because as
I was doing the intro for this, when I get
somebody to come back a second time, it really fulfills
my heart because it means we built a bond over
our first show. We stayed in connection, We created a
friendship and community, which is what this is all about.
And more importantly, it means that what you were doing
than wasn't a flash in a pan like you stayed steady.

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You're continuing to approve your life and improve the lives
of those around you. You're dreaming, you're doing, You're doing
all the stuff that we try to get to our community,
and that is pursue your dreams like life is short.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yes, I love that and that's absolutely my mission every day.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
And I got to meet you in person. We got
to travel through and check out the Thrive ranch and
see all the animals, and I gotta tell you that
was one of the highlights of our whole year four
of traveling full time was getting to tie the in
person connection to the online connections and meet you and
really understand your story.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, it was such an honor to have you guys
come through too.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
And I already felt like we had this friendship just
because of the kindredness of our spirits, but yeah, to
get to meet you guys in.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Person just solidify that. And it was so fun.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
As you know, it's pretty awesome, you know, to experience
what we do here online, but to physically actually get
to step foot and interut here is a whole next
level experience for sure.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
And I tell you what I just love about you
guys is you're always looking to serve with even though
you're pursuing your dreams and it fulfills you, you always
have this instinct of, Okay, how do I make this
serve others as well?

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, so that's really big on my heart. And what
I've gotten clear on well, I'm ever getting clear, But
what I am clear on me right now is just
I've given myself the title of dream cultivator, and my
mission is to change the world, one hard at a time.
And both of those sound super fluffy, and it could

(05:39):
be in irol for sure, but when you go a
little deeper into it, it's not so fluffy. I am
truly living intentionally every day. Does that mean every day
is a dream, Nope, But it means that I'm intentionally
doing something to be cultivating my dreams. And part of
cultivating my dreams is planning seats for others to be

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inspired to take some action on theirs too. And it
doesn't have to be big leaps and bounds, though we've
taken some big leaps and bounds, but just you know,
being intentional about what lights you up.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
What lights me up is lighting other people up, whether
that's to.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
The animals or just messages that I want to share
to empower people to be looking in and ever evolving
to be the best versions of ourselfs. And if we
do that, we can't help but change the world one
hard to time because we're gonna ripple out and hopefully
shine that light so bright for others to kind of
find their way and so on and so on.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Oh I love it. And here's something that I always
reflect back on too, because my goal has always been
to actually change the world. Right. I want to change
the world. And I want to make the world a
better place. And one of the ways I get to
do is share stories just like yours. And one of
the things I love to realize is maybe I don't
change the world. Maybe that's just not in the cards

(06:56):
for me. But maybe what is in the cards is
me eating someone like you and sharing your story, and
then your story changes the world, so then I still
play a part in it.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Well that's the thing, right.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
I don't think any one of us can change the world,
but together we absolutely can collectively really do good things
in this world and truly change it for the better.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
And I think that's the point, right. It's too many
times we sit back and go, Okay, I'm just one person,
won't really make that big a difference in a scheme
of things. We let ourselves off the hook. And I
love what you said about being intentionally checking it every
day and being intentionally Did I move the world a
little bit today? Did I do something that creates that ripple?

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah? And you feel so much more in alignment, and
you know, living in.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Your purpose when you're just paying attention to that and
doing something that feels like it's action, even.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
If you're not certain where you're going, but.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Just in action to discover where you're going, even if
that's all that it is, but just not being.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Stagnant, and you attract like minded people one percent, right,
because there's no way we'd have the friendship we had
if you came on the show and we're like, oh,
this dude is boring and this guy is not doing anyway.
We weren't stayed in contact, but like, why did I
continue following you? Because I want to see what they're
doing next? Because they're not just sitting They're not sitting still.

(08:14):
They're going to continue to evolve. I gotta see what
they're doing.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, No, absolutely insane with you guys.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
It's so fun watching your journey and just having the
courage to step into the unknown, which is what you
guys live every day to an extent, and same with us, man,
What do we discover about ourselves when we step into
kind of those comfortable spaces?

Speaker 1 (08:34):
All right, I love it, but on certain spaces uncomfortable.
And before I get you there, though, I got to
warm you up, like this is still a workout show.
We got to get right. I can't I didn't actually
look to see what the warm up questions were three
years ago, but I know they're different now, So I'm
gonna this will be fun to hear what you say.
All right, zam Ah, All right, you get to describe yourself.

(08:57):
But it's in one word. What's your word?

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Ooh gosh, intentional?

Speaker 1 (09:08):
That ties right into everything. That was a good one
that was easy to spot.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yes, well, I think I lucked out with how easily
it came to. But I really hope that does sum
up kind of how.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
I'm navigating my days right now. And me that's me.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
I love it. Zana's favorite quote.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Oh gosh, always be thinking about how you can be
doing things better. And I believe I don't know if
I'm quoting it perfectly, but that was an Elon Musk
quote that I followed for ten years before.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
I don't even think I really knew who he was.
I just happened upon the quote and liked it. And
now obviously we all you know, are more aware of
who he is.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
All right, it's you get a theme song. And actually,
I remember you did this on your show way back
in the day. If you get a theme song, yea,
what is your song? Oh?

Speaker 3 (09:59):
It depends on the day, because I have such musical brain.
But a theme song for me kind of my vibe
right now. Oh gosh, that is so hard. I know
that this is super super silly, but it's called bare
Feet and it's by Caroline Jones and it's just the

(10:22):
most upbeat, fun song. But I love using it to
ground too, and it just kind of celebrates that I
was given these two feet. Are you know these two
things my feet ted dance and walk around barefoot and
connect with the earth, and I just feel like, I
don't know, just makes me tap my toes. It makes
me happy, and I like incorporating that even here with

(10:43):
some experiences. But yeah, I think that kind of sums
up how I feel like I'm skipping through life now.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
And again that doesn't mean there's not hard.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Days, but that song and vibe is totally kind of
where I'm at right now.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
I have to look that one up. I like it,
all right, favorite book or current book?

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Big well, gosh, right now, it's probably one of my favorites.
And I recently read it which has let Them by
Mel Robbins. What a great read, great concept. Yeah, and
it kind of aligns with my sowt now what spirit?

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, all right, you get to have dinner with one person,
who do you have in dinner with? And what do
you want to ask them?

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Dinner with one person? And what do I want to ask?

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Gosh, I love that you put us on the spot
with these so we don't have time to think in advance. Honestly,
I would love to have dinner with Dolly Harton. I
just talk about a lady who is just well, she's ageless,
and I don't know that I want to age quite

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like she has, but I still admire her.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
She's just so true to her.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
And I would be so disappointed if she was anything
less than genuine, sincere, sincere person that wishes well for everyone.
And of course, with my musical talent or my my
musical love, no.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Musical talent, what an ie she is.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
And she actually sings one of another one of my
theme songs. I don't know why I didn't think of this,
but She's an Eagle when she Flies is definitely one
of my theme songs as well, And so I think
I would love to know or sit down and visit
with her.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
That'd be a good. Yeah. I can't imagine to have
a boring conversation or a lack of upbeatness with her.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
I can't imagine.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
I think she's gonna run till she goes to sleep
and doesn't wake up.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Someday she just goes for it.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Are you feeling warmed up? Xana?

Speaker 2 (12:45):
I am warmed up all right.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
I wanted to start with something that I just I
think it was a quote maybe I saw from you somewhere,
but it says change in the world one heart at
a time. Yes, what does that? Obviously? What does it mean?
Too deeper? And then when did you realize that you
could actually do that?

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (13:05):
I think that is a quote that I kind of
incorporate into the message and vibe here at Thrive Branch.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
And I realized it just because I recognize it within myself. Right.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
I've been through some challenges and some really dark moments
and ultimately some dark seasons where I felt pretty broken,
and it took going in, you know, turning inward to
really discover some things within myself to move through that.
And in that, I feel like I changed my heart

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and I see that there are some really simple things
we can be doing to kind of take our power
back and ultimately shift shift our heart. Right, our heart
is our heart and I think we always have that
innate goodness and purpose in there, but I think we
can lose sight of that sometimes, and I think it's easy,

(14:01):
especially when it's so almost encouraged in the world that
we live in today, to point fingers and be a
victim of something right, which robs us of our power,
in my opinion, and I have allowed those kind of
spaces to rob me of my power where I wasn't
taking responsibility for maybe a circumstance that was beyond my

(14:22):
control that I was legitimately maybe a victim of, but
I was giving my power up to stay there. And
when I realized just really simple shifts what I kind
of refer to as our three superpowers, which is kind
of getting grounded, taking responsibility for what I can control,
even though there are elements that aren't in my control,

(14:44):
and then just gratitude. Shifting those things helped me change
how I navigated my day.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
In my world and my heart. And I feel like.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
How I radiate when I'm in that kind of space
ripples out to others and they feel that, and I
think it helps them to kind of take that on,
and then that ripple continues and ultimately can change the world.
I recognize there is evil, and you know, there's some
ugly things. I'm not naive to that, but I still

(15:13):
think that the more that we're focusing inward on being
the best version of ourselves and in encouraging others and
empowering others to do the same, we can even shift
some of that evil.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Maybe not all of it, but a lot of it.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
That's so good. As I'm listening to talk about that,
I start thinking, was there a time that young Xana
knew that she might be different from everybody else and
that you had this innate desire to change the world.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
No, I don't know that, so I mean definitely not
on the scale of I think I can change the
world that I didn't know it was in me.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
I think that young six year old Xanna was. I
was one.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
I was very very shy growing up. In fact, around
a lot went to ten plus schools growing up. I
was the girl with no tongue, was what they called
me at one school. I remember, because I was so shy,
they just thought I couldn't talk, which is ironic today
because I love to chat. But anyways, I do remember

(16:18):
kind of discovering my power. So it's interesting you ask that,
and kind of gathering my little friends together and putting
on the plate for the class and kind of found
a little spark within myself, probably around seven years old.
And then, you know, like so many kids do, my
parents got divorced, and I feel like that stability unraveled
for me and I really went inward, and that's when

(16:41):
I became with the.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Girl with no tongue.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
And that said, I remained that very shy girl for
a very long time. And then fast forward, I met
Jeff in high school and he definitely brought me out
of my shell a bit, but it took even more.
I actually just recently had this conversation, and I don't
even know that I had fully reflected on this being

(17:06):
so key to being where I am today.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
But when Jeff and I met, we.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Were fifteen and sixteen, and I'm so grateful to have
gotten to grow together and shape each other in certain ways.
But I also getting together so young was half of
Jeff and Sanna, and I don't think, you know, until
later years did I really figure out who I was
outside of that. And I could have told you in

(17:32):
my early twenties when we got we got married in
our early twenties and I loved Oh gosh, it was
everything I could have dreamed of at the time. But
I would have told you if you asked me what
my dreams are, I would have rattled off this whole
list of things. But the reality is, at that point
in time, those weren't my dreams. Those were my parents' dreams,
Jeff's dreams, everyone's dreams, but my own. The only dream

(17:55):
that I knew that I actually had was that I
wanted to be a wife and mom, and I wanted
to create a family that was more stable than the
one I came from.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
That's the only thing I did know that was on
my heart.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Everything else I didn't even have a clue, and I
don't think I even allowed myself to explore that, and
not to anyone's fault but my own very I was
in my comfort zone, so I just didn't push myself
out of that. And that's why today I'm so passionate
about opportunities to myself get out of my comfort zone,

(18:30):
but also nudge others to get out of their comfort zone,
because that, I feel like is where I began scratching
the surface of figuring out one who I am and
what likes me up and considering what was possible. And
that was probably my early thirties that I started scratching
that service. And it was a season where we went

(18:51):
through our growing pains, as all married couples do, and
kind of that shaky ground.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
And in that season, I was like, gosh, I don't
even know who I am outside of Jack and Santa.
You know, he did.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
He had found his career and really defined himself. And
I was a wife and a mom and that was beautiful.
But outside of that, I did not know who I was.
And I'm so grateful for that shaky season because it
propelled me into kind of exploring that and in that
when we found our way through that season, because we
were willing to do the work and come out better

(19:27):
for it, I was more my own person in it,
with like this opportunity for us to each fall in
love with each other over again, and we've done that
over and over again through time as we grow and evolved.
But anyway, I began scratching the surface of who I am.
And that's when I began realizing that I had a
little spark that people.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Paid attention to, and I wanted to harness that to
do good.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Oh, I love it. And you definitely have a spark,
my friend. I love you guys, and I love I
love your spark. But I want to go back before
we go forward, because I find that people struggle a
lot with this. People will get to that moment you
had right where you're maybe not being who you want
to be, but you're living up to what everybody else
expects you to be. And they don't give themselves permission

(20:11):
to move beyond others' expectations to truly figure themselves out.
So how did you give yourself grace to go out
of the comfort zone as you call it, to get
out of your safety, to go away. There's more for
me over here. I might stumble, I might fall down,
I might make a mistake or two, but it's worth pursuing.
How did you allow yourself the freedom to do that?

Speaker 2 (20:34):
That's a really good question. I don't think it was
a conscious decision.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
It was just a moment in time where everything the
path that I thought was the path, I realized is
it necessarily the path? It can be the path right,
there's no right path or wrong path. But and I
think you and I and Andrew, you've been talked about
this a little bit. But we're kind of told as

(21:00):
we go through life that there's this promise of success.
You do this, and then you do that, and you
check this box and you check that box, and that
is the path and the promise of success. And I
did a lot of those things and then found myself
still going but something I'm not in alignment right, And

(21:20):
I couldn't have used that word then, but now I
can identify it as that there was just something within
me that was still needing to bloom, and I had
no idea what it was, and it took that shaky ground.
And I think that's true for everyone, right, And even
with Jeff it was the same thing. I think he

(21:41):
found his calling and his path with lots of pivots too,
but we took we took some major left turns along
the way and career paths and just growing pains, grow
coming together, growing up or growing together and growing apart
and then finding our way back together.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
But I actually was just talking.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
To a young woman recently, and she's going through a
season where she's questioning it all right, because she's done
the things. She went to school, she got the degree,
she got the masters, she wants. She has a vision
for what her career is going to be, and it's
not all falling into place and she's there and it's
not what she thought it was going to be. And
I think so many people, myself included, just think, well, yeah,

(22:24):
but this is just what it is when you are
doing adulting right.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
But maybe maybe it's not.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Maybe we're settling when we just keep checking the boxes
and settle for that comfortable misery. And I'm not saying
I was miserable per se, but I knew that there
was more, and Jeff knew that there was more. And
what I'm rambling about is if you're going through something

(22:53):
hard right now, and I went through a hard season,
that kind of is what made me start scratching the
surface of there's more inside of me. Those are such
blessings because when it's easy that we don't reflect right,
when it's going good, we're not reflecting. We're just going
through the motions. And so when those hard seasons creep up,

(23:14):
what I know is that it is not for it
or to us. It really is for us, as painful
as they may be. And yeah, there were some really
painful seasons, but that is where I began figuring out
who I was, what my strength was, my resilience was.
And so I say, you know, when you find yourself
in a hard season, moment, whatever it is, know that

(23:38):
that is such a blessing.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
And when you're hitting that rock bottom and.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
You're on your knees and you're crying and don't know
the next move, there isn't a next move other than
to feel it. I think a lot of us can
pursue numbing that right and putting on a band aid
or buying a thing or taking you know, having an
adventure and escape, and all those things are great. The

(24:03):
things are great, the adventures are great, but not if
it's to none what you need to feel to walk
through what you need to walk through. And so my
whole point is I began discovering who, as you say,
Xana is, and that I'm supposed to change the world
in my own right as we all are going through
the herd season, and so embrace it because that is

(24:25):
where we find out so much about ourselves.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Absolutely. And one of the things that I noticed is
when I try to live or do what my plan was,
what I thought I was supposed to do, a lot
of times I will be in conflict with whatever you
want to call it, God, the universe, whatever I'm being pulled.
And a lot of times I found that my better

(24:53):
self is when I say, hey, I'm just going to
show up today, do what I do, but I don't
need to control where everything goes. That life becomes easier
for me.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
One hundred percent because so much is not in our control,
you know, and so you can't be let down when
you're just showing up as your best self. And man,
when you do that, the opportunities and the miracles that
you witness and the things that come your way because
you're more eyes open instead of nose down to checking

(25:27):
that next box.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Uh, it's a game changer.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
How do you know, Xana? How do you know if
you're your best you today? How do you have do
you have any like check ins or metrics or like,
wait a second, I'm off today, let me reset myself.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah I do. I mean, I think you just if
you're honest with yourself. And that's another thing, right, how
many of us are not honest with ourselves on a
daily basis.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
And I know that there were seasons I definitely wasn't,
But yeah, I think if I lay down at the
end of the day and just feel satisfied, even if
I didn't check all the boxes that I set out
for that day, but I felt like I was in
action towards you know, where my heart is pulling me,
and even if it's a baby step, and I you know,

(26:14):
for me, I know I'm not in alignment if I'm
not pouring healthy things into myself, if I'm not working
out and honoring my body, And.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Does that mean that you know, I give myself race.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
There's days I did not make the gym today because
I came home on a ready last night, I did
shovel a lot of poops, so that kind of but
I think that you know when you're not in alignment,
and you know when you're not showing up as your
best self. In fact, I will share this with you
because this kind of answers the question that you just

(26:48):
asked me. And the young woman that I have kind
of been chatting with that's struggling, I asked her this
and me and my musical brain actually, when she shared
a little bit of where she's at with me, I
tend to hear songs singing in my head. I know
this makes me sound cuckoo, but like, I just have
a song lyric for every experience, right, And so what

(27:10):
she was sharing with me, I heard the song Greatest
Love of All by Whitney Houston. And I don't know
if you're familiar with that song, but I think what
she was walking through is I don't think she's showing
up as what she knows is her best self. She's
out of alignment, but because she's not in love with

(27:30):
herself right now, and I think that is so key
is to love yourself, but you have to be showing
up in a way that we genuinely can love ourselves.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Right, And so I invited her, I'm.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Going to read this to you because it just seems
so relevant and it's kind of how I do check
in with myself as well.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Let me find it because I feel.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Like I encourage her to just listen to that song
because we don't have anything to give until we can
appreciate ourselves. And we are the only one that can
be truly honest with ourselves if we are really living
in alignment and showing up as our best self. And
so anyway, she was pretty emotional, and I just said,

(28:13):
you know what, this is a good thing. It's good
because you know you're out of alignment and you're recognizing it.
So this is where you get the opportunity to do
something different. And so I just encourage her to take
some time and consider how she's showing up for herself,
how she can love herself more and be really really

(28:34):
honest with herself, because.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Until we are, you know, we're not going to be
in alignment.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
And so there's days where I'm like, I look in
the mirror and I'm like, yeah, you didn't do it.
You didn't do it today, But that's okay because you're
going to do it tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Right.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
You can't dwell on it if you don't show up
as your best self today, but you can do better tomorrow.
But you cannot do better tomorrow if you're making excuses
and point out to think you're outward as to why
you didn't show up as your best self today.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
And I think you hit on a key component there
that that I found in my life when Andrew and
I made the switch to get kind of out of
the routine life that we had we're businesses and houses
and running everything to just traveling. Something that you said
there that I agree with is you give yourself time

(29:27):
right that time not space to check in with yourself,
because just like we talked about earlier, you can numb
yourself from your truth through alcohol, drugs, whatever. Or what
I found is very prevalent is we numb ourselves to
our truths by staying busy. We're so busy doing all
these things that now we can kind of hide and

(29:48):
lie to ourselves and say say, I don't have to
work on me. I just don't have time to work
on me right now. I'm just I'm so busy here.
And what happens right is like if I say that
today and then tomorrow, progressively, I get further from my
truth yes to where when I actually do want to
work on myself, I don't even know who the hell I.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Am, and numb out on social media, right like just
check out in the scroll. And then you're comparing yourself to.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Everyone's, you know, perfect version of what they're putting out there,
right because let's be honest, we don't really put all
the yuck out there, you know, and you're comparing your
comparing yourself to someone else's perfect version that you don't
know what's going on behind the scenes for them.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Either you had another quote and that I saw that
I really loved and I want to explore it. And
before I get to your quote, I wanted to say,
like it reminds me of this quote, is that we
greatly overestimate what we can do in a day, while
we greatly underestimate what we can get done in a year. Sure, right,

(30:59):
And you and I like that because you getting ready
for this, you would put that you were choosing forever
in your marriage. I'd also say, like, you're choosing forever
in your life, knowing that this is a long process,
which means we make small changes every day. Yes, So

(31:20):
when when did you, like, how did you come up
with that chooser forever? How do you use that to
one for your own guides and two to help the
people around you?

Speaker 2 (31:31):
I wish I.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Could identify the moment, you know, and I wish I
could bottle that paradigm shift, because man, how impactful. How
could we change the world with you know, a little
elixir that we could take where we really just kind
of shift and harness things in a different way. For me,
I just somewhere along the way it really clicked with me.

(31:55):
And I don't know the moment but going through the
hard things that it is a choice.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Everything is a choice.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
And in our family we encompass the phrase so what
now what? And that's super powerful in our lives. And
even though that's a motto in our home there despite that,
we even recently have walked through some a challenging growing
year where it was easy to lose sight of that
even though we believe in it wholeheartedly. You know, that's

(32:25):
the thing. Even when you get it, you still can
fall off the horse sometimes and kind of get out
of alignment, and it's a choice to get back on
and the forever choosing forever, choosing to ever evolve, because that,
to me is what your dream life is. It's not

(32:47):
waking up in paradise every day.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
For me, it's not. I mean maybe for someone it is.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
But how boring would it be to just have perfection
every day? So I even kind of defined and thrive right,
And I think this kind of back to that I
did the whole Oh gosh, what is it when you
do as a kid where you do the do a
word like down and then a word out for each thing.

(33:11):
There's a phrase for it, but it's escaping me right
now anyway, Thriving for me is the tea is being thankful.
You know, when you walk through each day with a
lens of gratitude, it really shifts how you experience the world,
and it also shifts how you show up in the world.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
And so that's huge to me.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
The h and thriving for me is being healthy, but
not just it's healthy mind, body and soul. Right doing
things every day and even if it's five minutes to
just stretch and get barefoot.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
You know, you don't have time for that hour long
workout at the gym or whatever.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
But honoring your body every day and what you're putting
in it, all of those things, what you're feeding your mind.
And then the r for thriving is resilience, and I
think we need to be cultivating that in ourselves but
also in our children. We were talking about our kids
before we started today, and you know, there's no blueprint

(34:09):
for being a parent, and I certainly don't have all
the answers, but I am grateful that we instilled resilience
in our kids and we were able to do that
or they were able to obtain that, just like myself
through failure, you know, And so we have to have
room to fall.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Down to discover our resilience.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
And that's kind of coming back to that being able
to embrace uncertainty in hard times, knowing that that's for
us because we get to forge that strength and resilience.
And then I, for me is being inspired every day, right,
And when we stop being inspired to me, we're definitely
just surviving at that point, right, And I don't want

(34:48):
to be just surviving. I want to be thriving, not
every minute of every day, but a little bit every
day and then bereorious, coming kind of circling back to resilience.
But you can't be victorious if you don't overcome hard things,
and I think that is just so key to thriving.
And then the last is E for evolving, and that's

(35:10):
kind of that choice. Coming back to that choice is
I want to be learning and growing all the time.
I don't have it all figured out. In fact, the
only thing I do have figured out is that I
don't know much right and there's so much to learn
and I've been wrong and I'll be wrong again, and
just learning to pivot and grow and ever ever evolving.

(35:34):
And that's true in our marriage. So when I say
I'm choosing forever. Gosh, we were fifteen and sixteen when
we fell in love. We've had many seasons and many lifetimes,
and we're both ever evolving, and our relationship is ever evolving.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Choosing me is ever evolving, right, choosing to take this
leap of faith and move this funny barm across the
country on kind of intuition, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
It's everything is a choice, and it's what we do
with it, good, bad or ugly.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
We get to choose how we respond to it.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah, and what I took from reading that choosing Forever
and listening to you is you knew this was a
lifelong process. There was no quitting tomorrow. There's no easy
way out. So either we're going to work and make
this what we want or we're not going to be happy.
But we're here, you know what I mean? I think

(36:31):
too many times, because everything in life can be so temporary,
we kind of have this temporary lens on so many
things that we we don't fix the relationships around us,
we don't fix how we talk to ourselves. We don't
make the changes. We know. But if we woke up
every day and say, Okay, this what I do today?

(36:51):
It's going to pay dividends fifty years from now, it's
going to change relationships. You would do stuff right?

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Well, I would, I don't know, maybe not everyone.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Some people really do prefer to stay in that miserable comfort, right,
they really do. And it's so sad because it's familiar
at least they know it. But for me, I would
rather get uncomfortable and have the hard conversations, even if
it means saying what I don't want to say or
hearing what I don't want to hear, because I can't

(37:25):
improve if I can't hear how I am or am
not showing up for my partner, you know, and vice versa.
And we you know, it's been a very challenging year
for us this year because we had a lot of
moving parts.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
We've been a part.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
More than we're together physically for this year and that
was a choice that we made, but for you know,
extenuating circumstances. But it came at a cost, and then
we had to choose to do the work to navigate that.
And again it was a season that came for us.

(38:02):
I wholeheartedly believe that because it forced some additional hard
conversations and where do we want to steer this ship together,
you know, and recognizing how I could show it better
for Jeff and how he could show it better for me,
and also kind of stories we were telling ourselves about

(38:24):
each other and making ourselves right, which was this whole
little mushroom versus if we had just had the hard
conversation up front, you know, well, and we were.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Trying to have the hard conversations.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Actually, you know, we have lone enough to have the
hard conversations, but we weren't communicating it in a way
that the other one could fully hear it, and so
we had to kind of revisit how to even just
explain it in a way that it computed for the
other one.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Right, So it's work. It is hard work.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
And I I'm not someone that thinks you should stay married,
miserably married for the sake of staying married, right, But
I believe that you should fight like hell to have
the best marriage you can and enjoy the heck out
of each other and help each other grow.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
And there's no better place to grow in a relationship.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
I joke with Jeff, I just told him, I'm like,
it feels like God's up there going haha.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Let's put these people.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Together with these completely different perspectives and then watch them
do life together, Like this is good reality TV show.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
He gets to sit and watch up there, you know.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
And it's true, But man, how easy would it be
if we were both exactly and the same all the
time on all things.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
And so yeah, we're learning and growing and choosing each other.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
And I love that because you're growing, right, and you're
giving each other space to grow and become new people
while staying together. And I would say anybody is listening.
That's been one of the things that Andre and I
think have done very well is share our dreams that
are individual so that the other can support the dream. Right,
so we know we're growing on the same path. Not

(40:12):
I have my dreams over here and she has her
dreams over there and there's no inner lap. Well, then
we're growing apart, especially when you add in the stress
of raising kids where they come first for so many
years and then all of a sudden they leave the
house and they're like, wait, who is this stranger I'm
married to? And why don't we have anything in common? Well,
that shit happens. But what you can do is say, Okay,

(40:33):
what do we want to do next? What does this
next chapter look like? How do we dream? And you know,
and like I get so many compliments kind of we
were talking earlier, like man, just the craziness that you
guys sold everything and just travel all the time and
live this life. And I tell everybody listens, it was
not my dream. This has never been my dream. This
was Andrea's dream. This is something her little brain concocted.

(40:55):
But now, what's my role as a good husband wanting
to spend my life with her is support it? So
how do I support? I Gotta learn some new stuff, yeah,
which then makes me grow, which now I'm like, Okay,
this is actually pretty fun. I didn't even know. And
I think too many times we want to have our
own dreams. Yeah, but sometimes supporting somebody else's is even

(41:16):
more magical.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
So true, so true.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
And it's a it's an ebb and flow, right, it's
a give and take. And sometimes it's your turn, sometimes
it's their turn. Sometimes you're it's so such alignment, it's
your turn together.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
But yeah, it's just it's a dance. There's another song.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Did you hear Garth Brooks when you said that? Because
I heard Garth Brooks.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
It's actually Michael, Michael, Martin Murphy or David.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
I don't know something something Michael.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
You know the dance from Garth Brooks?

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Oh, I know the dance from Fast So Good. We're
just gonna try for this episode.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
All right? When did you or taught me through learning
to trust your faith and your intuition not just for you,
but in how you're raising your boys? Because I love
what they're doing right, Like, they're out living life on
their own, very independent, very lea, you know, just like
very successful because they're taking risk, they're not afraid of it.

(42:26):
So when did you learn to trust it yourself? And
that carryover? Right, that ripple we talked about where now
all of a sudden, our kids are doing things they
saw you do.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Yeah, I mean gosh, that's part of the evolution, right.
It was part of.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
Evaluating if the boxes we were checking were actually getting
us where we wanted to be. And that evaluation again
came from finding ourselves in a heart season after Jeff
was injured in the line of duty and just being like,
wait a minute, you know, is this our perfect campus?

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Is this how we want to raise our children? Is
this is this? It?

Speaker 3 (43:03):
And it wasn't, and so we took that initial leap
of faith and moved our family to Montana from California
at that time, and I think, I think earlier in
Jeff in my life, we did a lot of leaps
of faith like that, but that one, I feel like
was such a huge pivotal one for us in as

(43:24):
parents and you know, as partners, and showing our kids
that move showed our kids that you're never too.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Intertwined in a community.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
And we love our family and we have such great
extended family, and we walked away from all of that
because we built the world is small, right, so we
still can go.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Back and we can see everyone, and you know.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
As life gets busier, sometimes that's fewer and farther between.
But my sister and I live farther apart than we
ever have, but we're more connected than we ever have
because our time together is so intentional and meaningful, and
you know, we had great conversations. But that leap of
faith to Montana, I think was when we really really

(44:07):
got so clear on trusting our gut and no certain plan.
With that leap, we were set up enough that we
knew we could move and we could had enough funds
to figure it out. Right, We had enough funds to
take some time to figure it out. Our kids were
in fifth and seventh grade at the time, so and
they had been the same school up to that point

(44:29):
from kindergarten on, so that was all they had known.
And they saw Jeff and I create something from nothing.
We created something from nothing there, and I think that's
when we realized the house is just a house, a
job is just a job, and it's all about figuring
it out and creating and thinking outside the box. That's

(44:54):
huge for us now. It's like, Okay, here's the box
and there. The box is great sometimes, right, but sometimes
you need to be evaluating the box and if it
makes sense to be there, or if there's a better
way that might require going outside of that box. And
we've discovered more and more that stepping outside of that

(45:14):
box serves us really really well. And our kids have
learned that it serves them really really well. And yeah,
they're nineteen and twenty one and they moved to Nashville
last year and are.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Making their way. And they didn't also have the full plan.
They knew the vision, they you.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
Know, and then life like them and you know, they
had the vision of how it was going to go,
and obviously it's been more challenging than they thought it
was going to be initially.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
But again, what.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
A blessing because it's been such an opportunity for them
to learn, pivot, navigate, and they aren't afraid to take
a risk because they know the worst that happens is
they fall down and then they get to get back
up and do it better because they know more. And
that's what we've learned too.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
That's an amazing lesson for our kids. Right is not
to I want to say, helicopter, but pat everything so
if they fall it doesn't hurt at all. Right, No,
I want when they fall. I wanted to feel a
little pain.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
And I think, I mean you recently walked through you know,
raising children, as did we, and I think, with the
best of intentions, kind of our school system and so
many spaces were kind of trying to protect them from
the pain. And there's another song in my head called

(46:43):
I wish you pain by the Grammar, and it's so
spot on because he's saying, I love you so much.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
I wish you pain, because only through.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Experiencing pain can you experience the counterpart to that, which
is true joy and discover your strength and your resilience.
And I think it's a balancing act.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Of course, you know, we don't We don't.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
Want the worst things that happen to our kids, and
we hate seeing them hurt. But how much more empowering
is it to them to know how to navigate pain
and face fear. I used to aspire to be fearless,
and I you know now you know discount that word.
I feel like it's more about being courageous because we

(47:26):
all have fear and there's no escaping that. It's about
walking through it despite the fear. And I think our
kids from us have really learned to harness that.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Yeah, and that's where you're going to learn resilience, right.
Resilience is such a big word right now. It's going
around workplaces. Everybody wants resilient workforce as a resilient kids. Well,
nobody gets resilient from easy no, right, it only comes
from difficult stuff. So I can give you resilience definitions.

(47:58):
I can let you watch people do tough stuff on
videos that show their resilience, But you will never learn
to believe in yourself, trust the people around you until
you're in a dark, difficult spot.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Absolutely, and you know, coming back to kind of what
you asked me before, when did I discover that about myself?

Speaker 2 (48:19):
I started discovering that the light that I have in
the hard spot, you know.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
So yeah, And I think that's one of the best
things we can do as parents is put ourselves in
position where we're not just telling the kids about it,
but they're we're demonstrating. They're seeing us pack up our fans, right,
because that's what they're gonna You could tell kids all

(48:44):
you want, but what you're doing is what they're watching.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
And now we're learning from our kids and it's so fun,
you know, to have those roles reversed a little bit
and they're you know, challenging our self us close sometimes
and it's just so cool to be able to have
these very meaningful conversations about taking the chances and taking
these leaps and manifesting, for lack of better words, right

(49:12):
because you're so intentional with your vision and seeing things
come to life for them, and it's just so awesome
and inspiring.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
What I love about it. And I don't know if
you're there yet, if you're on the verge is we're
to the point now where our kids are more like friends,
Like our parenting is kind of over with right now
we get to what's that?

Speaker 3 (49:37):
I'm sorry, Like we're there too kind of Yeah, it's
just really awesome.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
I'm not worried about, hey, do you have enough gas
in your car? Like I'm not worried about the parent things.
I can sit down and, like you said, like share
with me your beliefs on this. Why do you believe that?
Like why you know, I really get to understand their perspectives.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Yeah, and I think you know.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
It allows them to gravitate back towards us too. Rite Like,
I don't know what your experience has been, but there's
times where when you're in an environment where with the
best of intentions, people are trying to tell you what
to do and how to do it.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
I don't know about you, but I kind of push
from that. And so.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
You know, with our kids, we really don't and I'm
very conscious of that, right you know, they are even.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
If I don't.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
For instance, they just they got street bikes, and of
course as a mom, I'm like, dear word, they don't
get to.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Right, Like I hate it, but it's not. It's not
my place.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
They have to learn their lessons and go to their
path and I hope they survive at all. And it's
just I have to stop being the parent and they've
got to take the risks.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
And that's one you know, for me, I'm just like, well, well,
I just I don't like that risk. But it's not
for me to say anymore.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
And yeah, just so, so they gravitate towards us because
we can be friends and we can have these meaningful conversations,
but we aren't there to tell them.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
How to live their life anymore. You did that, That
job is done.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Yeah, Now it's funny you mentioned pushing back with people
try to tell you what to do. I my wife
and my mom would just they would just smile at
that comment. Because if you want to see me not
do something, tell me like three I did actually did
an episode on this. Three phrases I would eliminate from
vocabularies you should, right If I tell you you should.

(51:39):
Now I'm decision making for you. I would. If I'm
telling you I would, it means I'm not in the process.
So what am I waiting for? And you or I
can't like if I have any of those three phrases,
I'm really not interested in anything else.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Yep, I'm right there with you.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Basically, you got to basically tell me the opposite if
that's the case, right, because I just one thing I
don't like is to be told what to do. And
I might be wrong, and that is okay, but I
needed to figure it. I need to fall on my
face if that's what I need to do to figure
it out. But also, there's more than one way to
do things. So who am I to tell my kids

(52:18):
how to do it? Now that they're grown, and even
when they were little. I think that's why they turned
out to be pretty incredible young men, is because of.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Course we guided them.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
We had rules, and there were some hard nos and things,
but for the most part, I'll yeah, let them fall down.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Yeah, Well, here's something I will tell you about your
street bikes because we had so our son Trey bought
he got into motorcycles and I'm not a motorcycle guy,
Andrews and we had the same fear like, oh my gosh,
this is gonna end up crazy. Whatever, Well, it turned
out already he sold them, never got hert so we
thought that was into it. Well, when him and his
girlfriend traveled to Asia this year. Motor bikes the way

(53:00):
to get around town because traffic's so terrible. So he
was thankful that he had it because now he had
a skill that the two of them could actually go explore.
So worked out.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
All right, yeah, yes, and I believe that too, And yeah,
they're finding their way. And I again, you come back
to that faith and intuition, and I choose to most
of the time just trust that we're all on our
journey and you know, we can't control all the scary things,
but that one, I think Jeff totaled one when he

(53:30):
was twenty one, when you were kids, and so I'm
just like, oh, I know, I know there's not testing
that thing to the absolute gamut because you know, no
matter how logical one is, they get something like that
and they're going to push it to the limit because
that's just what especially you guys like to do.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Ah, Yes, you're in it, my friend, you're in it. Yes,
all right, Well, Zan, before I let you go, I
want to touch base. Is one of the things I
really love about you is your continuing to serve and
give back through thrive, ranch and honor the brave. So
share with us if you want about the programs and

(54:09):
how our community can get involved with them and continue
to like, as we said, change the world, you know,
one day, one action at a time.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Yeah, and thank you for the opportunity to share about it,
well all of it. Obviously, My first Hat and Heart
project has been honored the Brave and that was formed
after Jeff, my husband, was injured in the line of
duty and his career came to an end.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
My background was real estate, and so it was really
just a way in.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
The aftermath of him losing his career, and that is
one of those challenging dark seasons you know that I
spoke of earlier, to just stay connected and get back
to our first responder in military community through the skill
set that I had, which was real estate. Following our
move to Montana, we went nationwide with that. So what
that looks like is if you're a current or previous

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first responder military, we provide what we call brief benefits
if you're buying or selling a home anywhere in the country.
At this point, we have realtor partners everywhere. If you're
going to buy or sell, we can align you with
a vetted realature that shares our values, that wants the
opportunity and values the opportunity to honor the sacrifice and

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service of our first responder military communities. So we give
ten percent of the agent commission back as a thank
you for your service. An additional five percent is donated
to a charity that you, the client would choose the
impacts first responder or military families and some capacity. And
then we have an active duty Marine cody who builds

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every one of our flags with so much love for
our clients as a closing gift, and so we do
the beautiful American flag, We do a wooden thin blue line,
thin red line, and just our goal with that program
is to create an experience of appreciation through what we
would all be doing.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Anyway, which is real estate transactions.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
And then hopefully that ripple effect impacting charities that are
doing some great things for these communities.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
And then drive branch has kind of been my evolution.
When we moved to Montana, I joke that if you
let your wife get ghosts, it could turn into a fund.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
So we began with a few goats as just something
fun to get on the land that we purchased in Montana,
and it's turned into a menagerie of highland.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Cows, al paca's cooney.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
Cooty pigs, which stands for fat and round in the
native New Zealand, which is exactly what they are. They're
like so ugly, they're cute, and then what else do
we have? We have the black nose slash balais sheet,
the super cute fluffy ones and all the fun things
chickens ducks.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
All of it. So super passion project for me. But
I started just one experiencing.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
Myself how impactful it was for my soul to spend
time with these beautiful souls, and in that felt it
was on my heart to create some experiences for others
to kind of just enjoy that experience as well.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
It's evolved into so much more. We took a leap
of faith and.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
Moved this whole crew from Montana to Georgia last year.
Never saw myself leaving Montana. I love it, It has
my heart forever, but my heart is big enough for
a couple places, and Georgia is where I'm supposed to
do this next chapter.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
And I speaking to intuition.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
It's really intuition that brought me here, because that's really
all I can say. I know that this is why
I'm supposed to do what I'm doing, and so we've
had a lot of movie parts making it all work,
but thrive Ranch. There's a lot happening here from experiences
I've created some re five days.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
I share all of our life lessons from the Funny
Farm on social media.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
There's so many miracles and just things to observe here
that we can incorporate into our life. I'm all about
really simple concepts that can help us reflect and grow
and be cultivating our dreams, and I observe a lot
of that right here with all these animals.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
So from that, again you can come for an experience.
You can follow all of.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
Our shenanigans online. I have what I call my best
life Buckets, and so that is something that I sell
and my heart talk about changing the world one heart
at a time. I know that these are supposed to
be in every home and every office and every classroom,
at least the concept of them throughout the world in

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my perfect vision, but.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
You know, as as many places as they can. And
it's kind of a spin on fill your cup. But
we have so many buckets around here.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
We fill our buckets, and so we have the dream bucket,
we have the let it Go bucket, and we have
the Gratitude bucket. When you come here for an experience,
you can have the opportunity to you know, if you
take a minute to write something down, it actually just
helps bring it that much more to life. And so
when you take a minute to consider a dream or
a goal or a passion that's on your heart and

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write it out and add it to our dream buckets here,
or if you have a dream bucket set at home
and do that with your family, it's really fun the
conversations you can have with the people you love around
these things. And then the let it go bucket, seeing
you can write it down, something that's heavy, something that's
not serving you, and you can add it to our
lett it go bucket.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Around here, we end up burning everything that goes in
that bucket.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
We don't look at what's in that bucket because we
want whoever is releasing whatever they need to release to
feel safe to put.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Anything on that paper.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
But then we give it back to the universe and
release it by burning it. And then we have the
Gratitude bucket, which is self explanatory. But the more that
we're paying a time in our days to what there
is to be grateful for. The more that shows up,
it's the lens that we look through the world or
look at the world through.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
So those are our best life buckets which you can
experience here. I also sell them.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
And then we now have the Thriver Tribe, which is
really big on my heart because there's just not enough
hours in the day to have all the lessons and
experiences here. So the Thriver Tribe is a community where
we're all cultivating our dreams together and all of those
things are things you can explore it right Branch dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
I love it. I'm just super proud of you guys.
I love watching your journey. I love the energy that
you bring to everything you touch, and no doubt you
are my friend creating ripples that will change.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
The world meet and I'm so grateful for that. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
But I want to ask before we wrap up, what
would today's Xana tell the Xanner in her lowest moments
if she could go back in time, what advice would
you give that self?

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
I would say, you're stronger than you know. And I
promise whatever you're afraid of right now is the thing
you need to step into because you're going to find
your power and you're.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Kind of a badass.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
I love it. Xenna, thank you so much for joining
us this week. It's a pleasure to catch up with
you again to share your story and we're just so
proud of you. Guys.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
I'm so grateful and yeah, love continuing this relationship.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Have a good day, and remember team life is far
too short to live any other way than on purpose.
We'll see you all again next week.