Bart Sibrel- Faked Moon Landings

Bart Sibrel is an American conspiracy theorist and filmmaker known for his belief that the Apollo Moon landings were faked
. He is a prominent figure in the moon-landing denial movement and has produced several films promoting this idea. 

Sibrel's major claims and activities

• Films: Sibrel's most notable works are the films A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon (2001) and Astronauts Gone Wild: An Investigation Into the Authenticity of the Moon Landings (2004). In these pseudo-documentaries, he uses what he claims is "leaked" NASA footage and other supposed inconsistencies to argue the landings were staged.
• Confronting astronauts: As part of his investigations, Sibrel has repeatedly accosted and confronted Apollo astronauts, including Buzz Aldrin, Neil Armstrong, and Eugene Cernan. He would ask them to swear on a Bible that they walked on the Moon.
• The Buzz Aldrin incident: In 2002, outside a hotel in Beverly Hills, Sibrel confronted Buzz Aldrin and called him "a coward and a liar and a thief" for not swearing on the Bible. Aldrin responded by punching Sibrel in the face, an incident that gained significant media attention. No criminal charges were filed against Aldrin.
• Underlying claims: Sibrel points to various discredited claims to support his theory, including:
  • Inconsistencies in shadows: He has claimed that shadows in Apollo photographs are not parallel, which he says indicates multiple light sources in a studio setting. This ignores the scattering and reflection of light from the lunar surface.
  • Radiation from the Van Allen belt: Sibrel argues that astronauts could not have survived the trip through the intense radiation of the Van Allen belt. In reality, the Apollo crew passed through the belts in a relatively short period, and their exposure was well within safe limits.
  • Technological limitations: He alleges that 1960s technology was not advanced enough to land on the Moon. This claim is a key point in his films and a common argument among deniers. 

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(01:23):
the email just now. Bartre you know this guy. He's
got a big YouTube channel called Bart sibrel S. I
b R e L. You could find his website at
www dot bartsbra dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Bart dot com, E R e l dot com.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, that's what I wrote down, you Sibrel dot com. Uh,
where you can get an autograph cop You can buy
an autograph copy of these DVDs. You got Funny Thing
Happened on the Way to the Moon and also Astronauts
Gone Wild, which is a little bit of a a
little wrestling action going on it. So he gets into
something the cuffs with these astronauts. So mister Sebrell tell

(02:03):
us about it. Touches up. Who is Bart Sibrell?

Speaker 4 (02:06):
Well, I've been a filmmaker most of my life. Started
out in theater and then became a playwright and then
a filmmaker. In my early twenties, been producing TV commercials,
music videos, corporate videos, documentaries, things like that.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
And then in about the.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Mid eighties, when I was running my video production company,
I met a gentleman. Actually I met a gentleman who
had produced a show that I had seen ten years earlier.
So I think I was twenty four, and I was
working for TV producer editing some of his films, and
I'd seen a show that he had did ten years earlier,

(02:45):
when I was fourteen. He had a news magazine program
and his guest was Bill Caseen. He used to work
for NASA, who said that the moon landings were fake,
and I was always a really big.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Fan of the moon missions.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
I had a bedroom wall covered with nine x twelve
color pictures of Apollo eleven. I had them up every
day in my life from about age four to fourteen.
And when I saw this guy on TV, I caught
me as kind of an open minded teenager and thought, well,
you know, anything's possible. Let me take a second look

(03:21):
at some of these pictures, and sure enough the anomalies
that he pointed out were there, and it was kind
of interesting. Your high wide shut you don't see them
unless you're really looking for them. Kind of planted the seed.
So ten years later I ended up doing some film
work for the producer of that TV show i'd seen
a decade earlier, and I said, do you remember the

(03:42):
name of that guy? He says no, but call the
San Francisco office. I did, and they were like two
days away from deleting all ten year old files to
make room in the archives. I almost didn't get in
touch with them, and then at the time I thought,
you know, because there's a possible ability at that stage
that the moon landing were fake, I thought, you know,

(04:05):
that could be a dangerous thing to start looking into.
So I even called Bill Casing from a payphone and
wasn't even sure if he was the real Bill Casing,
figuring if they faked the Moon mission and he's the
guy's spear hitting the truth coming out, maybe he's king
him and put in an age to pretend to be
him so that all the whistleblowers could be caught. So

(04:29):
but about after talking to Bell for about ten twenty seconds,
I had this kind of just grandfatherly relaxed quality that
I knew he was a genuine article. And I spent
I guess about six months pretty much paying myself a
salary doing nothing else except looking into whether or not
the Moon missions were fraudulent. I discovered many unusual things,

(04:51):
such as two of the three astronauts from the first
mission really don't give interviews to the public about how
they spent the public's money to do this great, greatest
event to achievement event kind Allegedly, the administrator of NASA
right before he used to put this feather in his
gap resigns days before the first Apollo mission, and the Soviets,

(05:14):
who had five hundred hours in space for every hundred
hours the US spent, never put a man on the Moon.
They put the first satellite up, the first animal, the
first spacecraft, the first orbit around the Earth for some
two spacecrafts at the same time, and then they never
went to the Moon.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Bart It was always my impression that the Soviets claimed
that the time he faked. Did they ever come publicly
and say we faked it.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
No. The only thing that I had heard is an
ambassador to the United States made one statement about a
week after Apollo eleven, and he never made it again,
implying that it was fake. It's never been the official
policy of the Soviet Union.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
A lot of people.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Say, well, surely they could have tried to red with
their technology, the Apollo spaacecraft and things like that, and
I think that it's probably true. So what that means
is you later on we found concrete proof that they
were fake. So that being the case, and the Soviets
knowing about it, it must mean there's something going on
behind the scenes. It's like if I had a picture

(06:19):
of the president with a prostitute. I could give that
away free to the media and ruin him, or I
could blackmail them year administration after administration, and that would
be a more sourceful use antion.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
And that's what the Soviet.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Union has done. I believe China has probably done that. Japan,
Israel and other advanced countries probably know that the United
States faked the Moon mission, and they have concrete proof
to show that. However, they're using it behind the scenes
to negotiate skeletons in each other's closets and things like that.

(06:54):
But go going back to when I first started investigating this,
and shadows intersecting when they should be parallel well and
so forth, and the Soviets having more missions, and the
strange behavior of the astronauts. I said, there's at least
I went out of four chance that they faked it,
considering this was allegedly the greatest achievement of mankind and

(07:15):
if they did fake it, it could be dangerous, you know,
to investigate it. I originally ed turned down the project.
I said, I won't have a wife and family someday,
so why should I die or risk dying for someone
else's folly? And then several years went by and I
started reading the Bible and realizing that, you know, despite

(07:36):
your views of God or no God, there is a
defining line between good and evil. Surely, rape and murder
and genocide is evil, and giving a thirsty man water
is good. You know, there is a divide line in
there somewhere. And if they did fake the mission and
led to the world and embezzled billions of dollars and

(07:57):
murdered people to keep it a secret, that's actually more
profound of an event historically than if they had actually gone.
So what we have is one of the greatest events
in human history is actually the thinking of the Moon
mission out of pride and greed and evil. And so
several years went by, I realized I'm going to die anyway.

(08:20):
There is right and wrong, and I'm not as well
risked my life to prove it, because if they didn't go,
this secure of cancer that's being hidden none rock. We
can't learn from mistakes. If the American government keeps painting
over mold, it's going to infest the country. And the
only way to overcome this mold is to confess it.

(08:43):
You have to admit your mistakes and that's what John
Kennedy did and why he was one of the most
popular presidents of all time. He took responsibility, he admitted
when he made mistakes, and his popularity rating was higher
virtually than any other president of all time. And if
we keep sweeping this in the rug, it's going to
bite it. It's going to infest the country, and it's

(09:04):
going to bring it down from within. So I said,
you know, one out of four chants, that's a pretty
serious possibility.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
And I then met.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
A person who right now is building rockets for NASA.
He's a multi millionaire person who wishes to remain anonymous,
and he knows from an engineering point of view that
the moon landings could not happen fifty years ago, much
less today. I mean, think about it. There's never been
in the entire history of the world a technological achievement that,

(09:37):
once it was achieved, no one was able to repeat
it for fifty years. When they flew across the Atlantic,
that's like saying Limberg flew across the Atlantic in nineteen
twenty seven, but fifty years later, no one can do it.
It's just not logical. It's like saying they they did
the atomic bomb or they did nuclear fusion, and I'm sorry,

(09:57):
somehow we can't repeat it with five deys gage more
advancement in technology. It's completely illogical.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
And at the time they didn't even have like pocket
calculators or a fax machine. At the time of the
Moonland we had nothing back in those days. I don't
think we had cordless drills and cordless screwdrivers. But let
me interrupted for one second answer your question because you
mentioned people were murdered, you have information that people were murdered.
To cover this up?

Speaker 4 (10:23):
Why firsthand eyewitness testimony from hours of interviews I've conducted
with relatives of deceased NASA astronauts and employees who have
forensic evidence that they were murdered, and they asked me
not to put this in my films, and so I

(10:44):
didn't because they're pursuing their own investigations, so they didn't
want me to hinder it or distract people from it.
But the fact is there were people who were murdered,
who were NASA employees, who were astronauts. And you can
go to my website sabrel dot com, go to the
link YouTube channel and go down to conspiracy theory. Did

(11:04):
we Land on the Moon, which is a film I
kind of helped produce, but didn't really entirely produce. And
they did some really good investigation into the pool of
what you can consider astronauts as well as backup crewise
and of about twenty four or so people, four to
six of those had fatal accidents within a twenty four

(11:25):
month period of one another. Now, if there are twenty
four employees of a McDonald's and six of them die
within twenty four months, the homicide police are going to
be all over the place, you know what I mean.
So something is not right here. And again, you know
your point is so valid ed. A cell phone has
one million times the computing power then all of NASA's

(11:48):
computers when they allegedly went to the Moon, And here
we are fifty years later, and the farthest demand can
travel from the Earth is one one thousandths that they
claim to have done with five decades over older technology
on the very first attempt. In fact, in the entire
history of aviation, there's never been an airplane or flying

(12:08):
machine that worked the first time, even the rudimentary Wright
Brothers gasoline engine. With that biplane it took I don't know,
twenty attempts before it got twenty feet off the ground,
and yet they're claiming the most intricate, dangerous, complicated aerospace
machine ever constructed worked on the first occasion. The seven

(12:30):
forty seven, which was built ten years later with ten
decades more technology, took over one hundred and sixty engine
failures before they could get that fuselage off the ground.
And this is just to build an aircraft, millions of
which had been built before, not to mention going to
another planet with untried equipment. You know, it's so amazing,
and the reason why people cannot see the obviousness yet

(12:54):
the moonlightings are fake from that simple logic alone, is
this is unless you can point out another one to me, Ed,
this is the only conspiracy that is positive. I mean,
whoever killed Kennedy, he's still dead, whether Oswald did it
or the Soviets did it, or you know, Dixon did it,
and whoever did nine to eleven, whether it's the Saudi's

(13:15):
or bin Laden or Cheney, there's still three thousand people dead.
But this is a positive conspiracy. It's like me telling you, Ed,
you know, your your favorite team there that just won
the Super Bowl, you know, they cheated. They put sleeping
powder and the other team's kool aid to make them lethargic,
and that's how they won. You're ready to punch me
in the face. But what if it's true. I've talked

(13:36):
to college professor. I've spoken with college professors who said
if they saw an Apollo astronaut confess on national TV
that it was fake, they would still believe that it
was real.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Now, that's not arrogance and pride. I don't know what is.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
And the Bible says that pride blinds you from seeing
the truth.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah, that's true, because even myself, I don't want to
bring myself to come out and say it didn't really happen.
Like you still want to give them the benefit of
the doubt, you know, But I'll tell you it is.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
The benefit of the doubt as long as possible.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
I'll tell you this. In my office back in New
York in the late eighties and nineties, I had this
big photograph of the moonland and one of the astronauts
with the flag. You know, it's an iconic photo, and
everyone who came in would always go and look up
at it and look for those shadows, anomalies that they've
always heard of. So I guess everybody has at least
the question in the back of anyone. But when you

(14:30):
think about it's just impossible.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
Well, again, the easiest proof that it did not happen
is simply technology does not go backwards. If they could
go to the Moon on the first attempt with nineteen
sixties equipment, men would have been on Mars twenty five
years ago. You see that technology does not go backwards.

(14:56):
For example, all the blueprints, all the telemetry, everything to
prove that they really went to the moon, NASA deliberately destroyed.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
That is proof that they didn't go.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
For example, imagine Bill Gates spending one hundred and fifty
billion dollars to build the first computer, and once he
did and achieved it, he threw it all into the furnace,
and all the blueprints on how to make it. That
would never happen. In fact, technology that they should have
done that with the atomic bomb, they treasured that. So

(15:31):
NATSA basically said, all the proof, all the all the schematics,
all the engineering designs, they deliberately destroyed. Now, if you
really went to the moon, you would never destroy it.
The only reason you would destroy it is if you
faked it, and the schematics could be later proven by
an engineer that they didn't have enough fuel, they didn't

(15:51):
have enough battery power, or they didn't have enough computing
power to do the calculations. That's why you would destroy it.
So the fact that they did destroy all the blueprint
is a proof that they didn't go, because if they
really went, and they would have never done that.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yeah, what is their explanation for the battery power? Because
you think back then they must have had the batteries
alone would have weighed, you know, tons, and the amount
of food and water they would have had to bring
for three days. What is their explanation for all that magic?

Speaker 1 (16:19):
It's like the magic bullet. You know. My wife's cell phone.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
You know, I've been married three years almost and I've
known her for another.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Two and a half. And this is for like five
years i've known her.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
I keep telling her over and over and over again
a million times, sorry, my darling, charge your cell phone.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Charge your cell phone.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
It's so frustrating I can't find you.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
You know, when I want to talk to you.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
So she uses it for Facebook and whatever else, and
the battery just draining all the time, and it's a
brand new phone with the latest technology and latest battery technology.
They're claiming that in this tin Can lunar module, they
set there in two hundred and fifty degree fahrenheit heat
for three days and got the temperature down to seventy

(17:03):
two degrees with a bank of essentially liquid acid car batteries. Now,
if I take my big Catillac and go out to
the desert at one hundred degrees and turn off the
engine and turn on the air conditioning, how long do
you think that's going to work? You know, ten minutes,
fifteen minutes. And yet you know they make these extraordinary claims.

(17:24):
And that's why they destroyed the schematics, because a detective
who's an engineer could figure that out. That's why von
Braun we have von Braun's documents. We bought these ten
thousand dollars a pop from these people's estates of their widows,
and he said, go into the moon, and a single
rocket is an impossibility because it would have to weigh

(17:44):
eight hundred thousand tons and be taller than the Empire
State Building and weigh ten times the amount of the
Queen Mary and the one they claimed to have gone
in the Saturn five only weigh twenty five hundred times,
so he recanted on his math by almost thirty thousand percent.
So how could someone who's that off mathematically ever get

(18:05):
us to the Moon in the first place? Or otherwise
he's line, And then he said, you had to first
build a space station and from there ferry the fuel
to leave the Earth's gravity. From there you go to
the Moon. And of course the space station was only
officially finished two or three years ago.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Hey, what about those people say that the space station
is faked too, that they said they're willing not up
there and they have they're using hairspray for the hair,
and what do you land on that?

Speaker 4 (18:31):
Well, when Bill Caseing first went on the Oprah Show
and she was first getting started, and he said the
moonlandings are fake, immediately you know the CIA or whatever
their propaganda media is who faked the moon landing? Said, oh,
and you also believe the Earth is flat and now
that it's coming out again through a funny thing happened
on the way to the Moon, which you can get

(18:52):
at sibrel dot com. And we have footage of them
faking video right in front of your eyes with the
third track of audio, the CIA telling him how to
do it. Then they try to throw you in the
same boat as people who think the Earth is flat.
Earth is obviously a sphere for a number of reasons,
and it's not even worth debating. But they they try
to say that all space missions are fake. No, the

(19:14):
only space missions that are fake that I'm aware of
are the ones in which a man claims to have
left Earth orbit because he'd have to go through the
van Allen radiation belt. And there's all sorts of documents
from the late fifties that say it is anywhere from
five to one hundred times a lethal dose. And then
you have NASA admitting several times on camera recently that

(19:38):
the radiation belt is dangerous and that technology to go
through it has yet to be invented. They said that
word for word on camera by Kelly Smith of the
Irion mission about three years ago. He said, it's a
dangerous field of radiation. We have to go through it
to go to the Moon and we have yet to
develop that technology.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Oops. So I call up, I say, hey, I'm a journalist.
Can I speak with Kelly Smith? No?

Speaker 4 (20:03):
No, no, no, no, I say, hey, you know aboard
that Orion spacecraft. You had two different Geiger counters. Can
I please have those readings? And they say that information
is classified? Now get this at it is the temperature
of the Sun classified? Is the is the amount of
helium and Jupiter's atmosphere? Is that classified? So why would

(20:25):
how much radiation is in the radiation helps? This is
simply a part of nature to be classified. There's no
reason unless it would prove a possibility for the astronauts
to go through, which is what they admitted anyway. So
the fact that the radiation is classified is proof again
that they didn't go to the Moon, because if they
told you it proved that the Moon missions were impossible.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
Well, isn't it possible though that even though it's like
a lot of radiation that you know, how they say
we're not supposed to take radiation, but but you can
still survive it, you know, is it possible I could
have went through and survived it and maybe god it
canceled down.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
No No, Go to Sebrel dot com.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
Go to the Bier Sea Corner link, go to the
article did we really walk on the Moon? Forty eight
years ago? On the first attempt, and you'll see the
documents by Van Allen himself printed and Scientific American Magazine,
in which he said it was anywhere from five to
one hundred times a lethal doseive. It's a minimum of
five hundred percent more than a lethal dose a minimum.

(21:23):
So he says we have to He said, the only
way you could go to the moon, he says it
in writing, is if you launched a rocket at the
North or South Pole where there's an opening in the radiation. Now,
if the Space Shuttle is blowing up, Challenger blows up
when it gets below forty five degrees or thirty eight degrees,
whatever it was, you think you can launch something from

(21:43):
the North or South Pole. You know you can't. It
would destroy the rocket hardware. You wouldn't be able to
do it. And besides that, you have to launch near
the equator in order to get the proper orbit and
then from there have escape velocity.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
I'll be honest, The Van Allen belt is beyond my
technical capabilities. It's beyond my understand I'm not gonna I'm
never gonna understand it. But I had a guy emailing
me this week and says, oh, yeah, I want a
debate Sibrel because I know about. What are the other
sides say about? How do they explain away that we
got through the Van Allen belt the other side?

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Well, all I can say is I don't know whether O. J.
Simpson was guilty or not, but his own attorneys after
the fact suggested that he was. And yet no matter
what evidence was presented, there was always some intricate excuse
as to why he was innocent. Anyway, And these poor
diehard people who don't want to give up that the

(22:40):
moon landings are great, and astronauts or gods have made
a religion out of the moon missions. I mean people
during the launch were looking up and saying, my God,
that's right, it is their god. You look at Van
Allen they named the belts after him. Look at his
own writing, which is in the article published from a
Magnum National magazine, and in the late fifties he said

(23:02):
it was five to one hundred times a lethal dose
and the only way to go to the Moon would
be the launch for an workers softball, which they did
not do. That's the man who's been a radiation belt
you're named after, and he tells you that it's not possible.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Right there. What more information do you need.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
You know, I say, it's so true what you're saying.
How we looked because we were about the same age
and me, you know, I'm a fifty five. You know,
it was like hero worship. Back especially around that time,
there was a new mission every year, you know, going
on all the time. In the front page of the paper,
everybody was drinking tang. Remember Tang. We would drinking that.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
I'd drink a gallon a day, a gallon a day
of that stuff.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
Right.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
It was this god awful stuff. It tasted like crap,
and it was supposed to be helped. Was it was?
It supposed to be helping.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
It was shit. It did have vitamin C in it,
but it also had a lot of sugar in it too.
So that's like saying wine is good for you because
of the grape juice, which is half true. But you
could also drink grape juice without the alcohol, you know.
But in any case, here's the thing. D I get emails, Okay,
I have protection from the FBI because I receive death

(24:09):
threats from people who say I wish they could watch
me and my family burn alive before the rise. Now,
all I'm saying is that the government lied at least
on one occasion. Now, the fact that there's this fanaticism,
that someone saying such a simple thing would receive such

(24:31):
a vulgar and violent death threats its proof itself that
these people who believe in the moon missions to that
degree are irrational and crazy. And how can a crazy,
irrational person perceive the truth.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
But don't you think maybe you turn some people off
because of the way you confront the astronauts in their
home and stuff like that, Like, I think that's a
little abrasive.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Yeah, to be quite honest, I've had second thoughts about
the methodology that I used. It's one of those things.
Hindsight is twenty twenty the way that I look at
it again.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Forgive me if O. J.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Simpson is innocent, but let's presume that he was guilty.
So let's presume OJ Simpson was guilty. He got away
with murdering people violently with a knife, and he's walking
around the golf course, you know, one day, enjoying freedom
when he shouldn't. Does he have a right to be
confronted with a camera in his face and say, I
think you really did it? Would you swear to God

(25:22):
that you didn't? If he's guilty. He absolutely does have
a right to be confronted like that. And I know
for a fact, because of this footage that we uncovered,
that the astronauts are one hundred percent guilty, one hundred
percent liars, one hundred percent treason us to the rest
of the citizens. That being the case, they have the
right in my mind, to be confronted for their sin,
for their embezzlement of money, and for their treason. Benedict

(25:46):
Arnold had the right to be confronted, and so do
these lying astronauts. Now that's my point of view then,
And there's a little bit of a point of view
now about that, seeing how I'm you know, proclaiming somewhat
through my little adventures of Christianity. Let me let me
tell everybody, I'm a work in progress.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
You know.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
One of the best, one of the best T shirts
I ever saw was from a minister in my church
that sent under construction. And you know, I think about
my mortality every day. I think about God every day.
I think about am I gonna make it? Every day,
I think about repenting on my sin every day. I
am not saying I'm better than these astronauts. All I'm
saying is that I believe they won't make it into

(26:28):
eternal life if they don't confess it. And I've given
them every opportunity public and privately to do that.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Now would I do it again? Maybe not.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
Did I wake up that day, you know, and and
plan on calling buzz Aldrin a coward, a liar, a thief. Know,
he didn't wake up that day planning on punching me.
We had already known each other. He had already acknowledged
to me certain things that were correct about my accusations.
And so just one of those moments that happened, I
feel like I should have sent the guy a box

(27:00):
and cigards were all the free publicity, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
But the fact is he is a liar. He is
a thief for.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
Taking money for something he didn't do, and he's afraid,
coward of the truth.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
You know.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
It's like there's a Hollywood celebrity I heard about. It
won't mention his name, but a very famous actor and
on his deathbed in his eighties, he wouldn't allow anyone
in the hospital room because he didn't look good. And
all this is about appearances. This is why Neil Armstrong
and Michael Collins had the sense that buzz Aldrin did

(27:33):
not have and does not have to not go around
milking crime, you know, beyond what they felt that they
was the minimum that they had to do. These people
were blackmail probably their families were threatened, and they gave
into it. But it's just a bully. All they had
to do is at that initial press conference to say, look,

(27:53):
the CIA threatened to kill my family if I didn't
go along with this. The moon lettings are fake. Do
you think the CIA would dare to that's their family
after that? No, But they gave in to a bully.
And the thing is, if you stand up to a bullety,
they run for the shadows like a cockroach. Unfortunately, they
gave in, and that's why Neil Armstrong very rarely gave
interviews about it. That's why Michael Collins did the same. Unfortunately,

(28:17):
Neil Armstrong seemed to have gone from a good person
to not so good of a person. The best that
he did on the twenty fifth anniversary, you know, which
is about twenty four years ago, is he left this
message that you see at the end of a funny
thing happened on the way to the Moon when he
was in the White House and students were going through,
and he said, perhaps someday you'll be able to remove

(28:40):
one of truce protective layers. That's a pretty strange thing
to say about going to the moon, unless, of course
it's fake, and which it is. And unfortunately America is
going to have to eat humble eye in order to
recover from their wounds. It's either cut off the leg
that's gangreen, or we're going to lose the whole body.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
And that's what we've done. And we've dug this deep hole.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
We keep lying upon lie upon lie upon lie. We
claim we're a light on the hill to the rest
of the world, and we lied about the greatest alleged
accomplishment of mankind. It's pathetic, and I'm accused of not
being a patriot for revealing this, but the fact is
it was those who faked it who are not the patriots.

(29:22):
You know, government reform is extremely patriotic.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
You had a lot of access to these astronauts in
their home and stuff like that. Did anybody off the
record ever slip anything to you.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
I've been told numerous things off the record, and I
can tell you that one or more of the astronauts
has confirmed to me that I'm correct. Now, they won't
say that on the record, but that's just the way
that it is. And one astronaut, James Irwin from Apollo fifteen,
I believe, was very close to making a public statement

(29:55):
that the Moon missions were faked. In fact, he contacted
the previous leading investor the Gator before I hit the scene,
Bill Caseing, who wrote a book we never went to
the Moon. And you can imagine my surprise if I say, hey,
ed hold on and getting a call and it's buzz
Aldrin calling me rather than me trying to track him down, right.
And so in August of nineteen ninety one, James Irwin

(30:16):
becomes a born again Christian and he calls up Bill Caseing,
the leading investigator at that time, and says they need
to have a serious conversation about the Moon missions and
his acquisitions in the book. He says, call me at
this number three days from now, And on that day
they astronaut had a fatal heart attack.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Oh my god, you're kidding me.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
I never that story.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
That's a great story, man.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Well it's the truth.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
And so you know, somebody's phone was being monitored the
astronauts or Bill Casing's or whatever. And you know the
great thing is we were financed by this you know,
millionaire patriot.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
He was like the John Hancock.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
We each had little nicknames for each other that were
based on the founding fathers. It's John Hancock who was
right now building rockets for NASA. Okay, figure out who
that might be. This anonymous person financed a million dollars
to produce these films the show to the world that
the Moon missions are fake, because he is a patriot

(31:13):
of the United States of America, and he said what
they did was wrong, what the CIA did was wrong,
what the Nixon administration did was wrong. Because do you
think Congress voted on whether to fake the Moon missions
or not?

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Of course not.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
And what that means, d is that Congress and the
Senate are not controlling the country like they constitutionally should.
We have a higher office than that. Remember Schumer warning Trump,
the intelligence agencies has six ways from Sunday to get
back at you. Yeah, because they record your whole life,
and if you make one mistake, that got it recorded

(31:46):
and they blackmail you with it.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
And of course everyone makes mistakes, you know. So it's
like the CIA.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
Is running the country, not Congress, not the Senate, because
they're the ones who fake the Moon missions. They're the
ones who killed Kennedy, and they're probably the ones who
did nine to eleven. Are their buddies dead?

Speaker 3 (32:02):
And like you said, they keep people acquired through blackmail.
It's a good time to.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Take a first choice blackmail second choice.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
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(37:11):
and it always struck me that what do you call it?
That stupid go cart? Those little go carts that they
had cost sixty million dollars? Is that correct?

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Well, in today's dollars.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
The film was produced in two thousand and one, I
think that'd probably be closer to about one hundred and
eighty million dollars now so somewhere maybe one hundred and
fifty million something by now now so, yeah, So imagine
that's spending one hundred and fifty million dollars to build
something an automobile that has about two thirty fewer parts
than a cheap from World War One or World War two. Uh,

(37:44):
that's pretty amazing. It's just one of those port barrel things.
What they do a lot of what the CIA does
is internal money laundering. They have these quote blun budgets
where they can do whatever they want. And it's with
that you know, they have they bought up basically Google, YouTube, Facebook,

(38:04):
They and they have these poles upper Berg whoever has
the face on it, who don't really own them anymore.
The reason they do that is when you signed up
for y'ab who whatever it says, you agree to the terms,
one of which is for the proprietor permission to scan
for emails, which is another word for reading them. And
see how you gave them permission. And on the hard drives,

(38:27):
they don't need a warrant really to do in your communications. See,
they'd buy att and all the stuff Black budgets. Now
before then, during the time l next administration, he had allegedly,
you know, certain money for v I'm allowed to go
and dig Campo or spend money there. So they would
take the muggy, you know, sixty million, hundred billion dollars

(38:48):
and they would give that, you know, spend you know,
maybe five hundred thousand producing them buggy, and then spend
the rest of the one hundred and forty nine million,
five hundred thousand on some other project that they really
wanted to do.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
Is there any explanation of how they got that buggy
up there? Because what was it inside the doorway was
attached outside what it.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
Was allegedly you know, collapsed and unfolded like a camping cup.
And they never changed the engines or anything to account
for the additional weight. Because the earlier missions to the moon,
had the engines designed in a certain name. When they
added that weight that made it lopsided. That they never

(39:30):
checked the engines or the fuel or anything. So, uh,
you know, it's one of another one of the little
fantasy stories. You said, it's just magical equipment, and I
wish we could prove how we did it, but we
destroyed all the technology and all the bluepints.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
I'm really enjoying this. I love the little jokes, the
collapsible camping cup, and I love I'm really enjoying this.
Thank you very much. Now, one more question I always
had in my own head. I've never seen a documentary anywhere,
but they're out there driving running this bugget. They must
think got dust all over their boots and their suits
and on there on the top of their heads. Then
was there any mechanism to wash themselves off or they

(40:04):
got back in the capsule because that that dust would
raise up in gravity, you'd be everywhere.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Well, not that I'm aware of.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
In fact, I asked you Gene surname, when I was
at his house if we could borrow a picture that
he claimed had the moon and dust in the frame
of the picture something like that. I said, we'll give you,
you know, the down dollar cash deposit if we could
go analyze these dust particles and prove that you're right.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
He refused to do it.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
A creator you may know if they do a search
under fake moon rock, or simply read the article. We
have the link in there and the information A curator
and then the Netherlands, after watching a funny thing happen
on the way to the Moon several years ago, decided
to open a hermetically seafield never to be opened box
a moonrock that allegedly Neil Armstrong personally picked off the surface,

(40:56):
personally brought back and personally delivered the exact same rock
to the Prime Minister of the nevlinds Now thirty five
days later, they get curious, they open it up, they
put it on a microscope and it Ceter's wood. Mind,
no trees grow on the Moon, and so what they
did is they use spectrified wood to give it this
kind of outer world look. And so you have a

(41:20):
moon rock that Neil Armstrong personally picked up, personally gave
to somebody. They put it under a microscope and it's
a fake. Now, why doesn't any reporter on Earth ask, well,
if the moon rocks are fake? What about the moon missions?
I mean, hello? And then you have CNN. They do
this story about how the Space Shuttle goes higher than

(41:41):
any manned mission other than going to the Moon, and
they say the radiation belts surrounding the Earth as they
approached them from more than six hundred miles away or
more dangerous than previously believe. Now, they Apollo astronauts eventually
went through them twice going to the Moon and back.
So how could someone six hundred miles away from them
know more about them than the Apollo astaurants because they

(42:03):
said in nineteen ninety four they're more dangerous than previously believe.
So now someone six hundred miles away from them knows
more scientific data about them than people who were in them.
That's not possible unless they were not ever in them,
did not go to the Moon. They were on the rocket.
They orbited the Earth. And that's what this footage we uncovered,
which you can watch, and a funny thing happen on

(42:24):
the way to the Moon proves we have them faking
a shot of pretending to be halfway to the moon.
If they're pretending to be halfway, it means they cannot
go halfway. All the equipment was identical. So if Apollo
eleven can't leave Earth orbit with their equipment, none of
them did, we e would have the CIA on there.
They left the microphone on for the first part of
the transmission. You hear NASA saying the TV picture looks great.

(42:47):
Then there's four seconds of dead air and you hear
a third party whose crystal clears say talk. Basically, he
was only two or three hundred miles in Earth orbit,
so he heard the question right away from NASA respond
right away. But if he did, it would give away
the fact that he was closer to the Earth than
he was supposed to be, because with that old equipment

(43:07):
and going out halfway to the Moon and coming back,
there should have been at least a four second delay.
So we have the CIA on a stopwatch telling Neil
Armstrong not to speak and tell he hears through his
earpiece talk. And that's on the tape too. And when
NASA re released you know this footage that we have
to prove that well, we had it all along, even
though at the beginning of the real it says do

(43:27):
not show to the public. They delete the CIA audio
of prompting them when to speak after four seconds. So
if that talk meant nothing, why did NASA delete it
When they re released the footage.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
ESUS was saying, why.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
Did they claim it was publicly available all the time
when at the beginning of it says do not show
to the public.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
I mean, it's a complete contradiction.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
The expose to me a couple of things. One is
what you keep saying, CIA. How do you know it's
CIA and not some other intelligence agency more secret than
the CIA.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
It could be.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
It could have been the NRO, could have been the NSA,
it could have been, but it's probably the CIA. They
were the most powerful, centralized, They had the most experience
with microphones and camera tricks.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
And things like that. And so that's.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
Just too I default to it was somebody and the
US government was probably them or some other agency similar
to them.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
Now the other questions explain to me, because you're talking
about how they faked an image halfway a film. How
did they fake it?

Speaker 4 (44:23):
Well, you can watch this and a funny thing happen
on the way to the Moon, which you can watch
on YouTube. And basically they had one window that faced
the Earth allegedly and according to the astronauts, it was
completely filled up with this older, bulkier, big TV camera.
For example, imagine your TV screen completely black with maybe

(44:44):
a blue tennis ball sized Earth in the middle of it,
occupying maybe ten fifty percent, with black all around it. Now,
that's allegedly the Earth floating in space has seen from
the window halfway to the Moon. And in order to
do that, you'd have to put the lens of the
camera to the window of the spacecraft, presuming one face
to the Earth, which is another issue, and then you'd

(45:05):
see this tiny Earth far away. The point was is
to prove to the audience that they were halfway to
the moon. We have the unedited version, which no one
saw until I'm covered it when the camera is actually
at the back of the spacecraft. They turned out all
the lights, they block the windows from sunlight coming through,
all of which they talk about how they're faking it

(45:26):
because they thought these conversations would be edited out, and
even though it said live, you know on CBS, we
hear them say this is for playback later, meaning that
the picture was edited. And so basically they have the
inside of the spacecraft black. They have these two or
three spacecrafts coupled together so they' as far back from
the window as they can get, and they have a

(45:47):
circular window outside of which it's completely filled with the
Earth and low orbit, and it makes it look like
the Earth is floating in space. They even put a
little crescent piece of black material in front of the
window to create the terminator line between night and day.
But we have the outtakes of them fiddling with the window.
We have the outtakes of when an arm, one of

(46:08):
the astronauts arm gets in front of the window, proving
that it was not up against the glass like they claimed.
It was back away. And they're creating this fake shot
of being halfway to the moon. And when I saw this,
I'm like, they're pretending to be halfway And I must
have said, oh my god, about one hundred times and
two minutes. They're faking being halfway to the moon. Now,
there's no question that that's what they're doing. In fact,

(46:31):
detractors of my movie agree that that is what they're doing.
They agree that that is them faking being halfway to
the moon. People who claim we went to the moon
agree that this footage I covered is the astronauts faking
being halfway. Now, their reason is they were just practicing,
They were just rehearsing, and that's why they're faking being

(46:54):
halfway to the moon. But the fact is each mission
costs about one million dollars a minute, and every ounce
probably cost ten million dollars to get off the ground.
So the last thing you would do is to bring
this extra equipment to fake being halfway to the moon.
If you wanted to practice, you practice with the real
Earth outside the window, right with the real Earth, you know,

(47:16):
being halfway to the moon. You wouldn't have to stage
being halfway to the moon. You would just practice with
the real Earth halfway to the moon.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
So we have.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
People who agree that this footage is fake, and yet
they still claim you went to the moon. If you
really went to the moon, you wouldn't have to fake
any of it. And if you're faking being halfway, it
means you cannot go halfway, you cannot leave Earth orbit.
And now here we are with five decades more advanced
computers and rockets, and the farthest demand astronaut can go

(47:46):
today with five decades more technology is one one thousandths
of the distance they claim to have gone. Half a
century ago on the first attempt with one million at
the computing power as a cell phone.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Yeah, some people who even say that that beautiful photography us.
There was a cover of Time magazine and stuff that
was taken on the moon. The lighting, Okay, that was faked,
but we really went anyway. I just wanted to.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Yeah, I mean, it's amazing.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
They acknowledged the pictures of fake, they acknowledged the footage
on Coveter's fate, but somehow desperately they want to believe
we went to the moon. Okay, yeah, the team, we
we bribed the referees and we put kool aid at
the other team's stuff. But we still want honestly, you know,
it's just they're so desperate. They don't want to give
up the glory of science, the glory of mankind's accomplishments

(48:37):
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
You know, it's really amazing.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
It's like the Titanic had and writing, you know, the
day or two before they left the ship that God
himself could not sink and it was simply frozen water.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
What we have here is the greatest accomplishment of mankind,
allegedly putting a man on the moon, and what a surprise.
Like the Titan and like the Tower Babbel, it was
never finished and mankind who you know, A lot of
people say, well, they wouldn't be so deplorable as to
fake such an important historical event. Okay, in the last
hundred years, more people have killed each other than in

(49:15):
the entire history of the world in the last hundred years.
And we have genocide, we have baby rape, we have
you know.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Well, well Jack Parsons was a Satanist openly at the time.
You know it was, you know, that not deplorable enough
for you.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
You know, in a world where where millions of people
are killed for their religion in the last hundred years,
and where babies are raped in that world, people don't
think they would cheat on an exam or cheat to
win a Nobel prize or whatever. They don't think they
would lie about a scientific colption.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
It's been done over and over again.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
Nobel laureates have been caught in plagiarism and a falsifying
dad and having to give back their awards. And here
we are again. I mean, it's so simple. Again, if
they could go to the moon on the first attempt
with nineteen sixties technology, they would have been on Mars
twenty five years ago. What about the theory that the
technology does not go backwards.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
The theory that Stanley Kubrick was involved in baking the footage.
Have you found anything on that.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
Well, they had to have somebody in charge of faking
the footage.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
They could either hire the.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
General of the media department at the Pentagon and have
great security and amateur results, or they could hire the
best filmmaker on the planet and worry about security later.
And that had to be their choice. They had to
go with realistic images. And so what we had is
Stanley Kubrick, who had already gotten in with the US
military when he did Doctor Strangelove and got access to

(50:42):
a B fifty two bomber for that filming, and then
NASA gives them gives him the a lens that they
built which can film his next film, Barry Lynden under
natural light candlelight, which no lens had been able to
do that before. And then during the time I'm leading
right up to Apollo, what film is he making? A

(51:03):
film about going to the Moon two thousand and one.
A space odyssey, in my opinion, is still the best
science fiction film ever made scientifically aesthetically because of the
realism of the photography and that film, And that's who
I would have picked to doune it. And sure enough,
right after he does that, he fears flying ever, he

(51:26):
won't visit America ever, and he leads these cryptic, cryptic clues,
like in The Shining you have the little red rum
boy stand up from a carpet pattern that looks exactly
like you know, Cape Canaveral, and he has on a
shirt that says Apollo eleven. And then you have him
stipulating his contract that eyes white shut, just like looking

(51:49):
at a picture of a man on the moon and
not seeing the truth, eyes white shut. He insisted that
it opened on the thirtieth anniversary of.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
The launch of Apollo eleven. Now what is he trying
to say here?

Speaker 4 (52:01):
Now, I've talked to his wife, and I've corresponded with
his daughter, and they say, you know, Stanley Kubrick wouldn't
be involved in such a despicable thing, just like the
Alarmstrong children say, and so forth. The fact is, and
the alarm Strung participated in threat of, you know, killing
his children, so he in his mind he was doing
it to protect them. And Stanley Kubrick didn't see it

(52:22):
as an evil thing. He saw it as this great
chess accomplishment. He was this great chess player, and he
saw it as what a great filmmaker I can be
If I can make a film that's so realistic, people
won't know that it's fake.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
He took it as a challenge.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Cooperck was so afraid that he had a moat around
his house.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
I'm not sure about that one, but I'm.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Almost convinced that's true, that he had a mold run
his house. I'll look it up again.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
But well, I can tell you a lot of these
people involved in faking the Moonlit Landings died right at
or very close to the age seventy, including him. And
I tried so hard through Scotland Yard, through them wood
Corner's office to get information about his death. What was
the autopsy, what was the type psychology, what was his
last meal, what was the last.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Day of his life? Like and I couldn't get any answers.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
And when his widow was interviewed the following day of
his death, she said out of her mouth, there were
no suspicious circumstances regarding his death.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
When no one asked her.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
That's like getting pulled over for speeding and say I
didn't have anything to do with that bank robbery back there, officer.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
Right, Hey, now, what about you watched that James Bond movie? Right,
and they they they're they're hoaxing the moon lady. They
show that the astronauts walking in slow motion? Now is
there and is besides the film footage we have of
watching these astronauts jumping around on the moon. Is there
any other indication of what it would look like to
be bouncing around on the moon and low gravity? Why

(53:49):
would it be slow motion? Wouldn't they be going twice
as fast?

Speaker 4 (53:53):
Well, if you look at a funny thing happened on
the way to the Moon, I'd show I just double
the speed of these TV images of them floating around.
I'm a filmmaker. I'm looking to see whether it's faked
or not. And to me, the black and white images
in slow motion look very convincing. It looks like they're
kind of floating around. But when you double the speed,

(54:15):
you see they're only getting off the ground about an inch. Now,
the Moon is about one quarter the size of the Earth,
so it's at least one quarter gravity. Plus it doesn't
have a molten core, so they estimate one sixth gravity.
I think it's probably more like one twelve. They should
be able to leap three, four or five feet off
the ground, which they only did about a third of

(54:36):
that in later missions when they figured a way to
do it. But it's super obvious in the first missions
that they're using slow motion. Now, when National Geographic did
a special about my film to prove that it wasn't true,
and they showed the slow motion and the speed doubled,
they zoomed in deliberately to not show the distance between
the astronaut's feet and the ground. It's amazing they deliberately

(54:57):
covered up the proof that it was the motion while
they were trying to prove that I wasn't. In fact,
they did such an in at job. They had this
guy go out to a desert at night with a
spotlight and have two or three people stand next to
one another and one guy in an astronauts to say,
look here, we are simulating the moon and the astronomy
and the shadows do intersect. Therefore, Bart Sibrel is wrong.

(55:20):
But that's exactly what proves me right. Why didn't they
just go to the desert during the day and used
the sun, which is what they had on the moon,
and the shadows would have never intersected. So the fact
that they used the spotlight and electrical light is what
caused the intersection was what actually proved me right. And
they said the exact opposite. While people were looking at
it with their eyes white shut. They said, look, a

(55:42):
spotlight causes these intersecting shadows, which is what we see
on the moon, which is why it was real, which
is exactly why it was fake.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
True. Hey, we only got a couple of minutes. Man,
the show was over, bart Man, Bartzipbrell. I really enjoyed this.
What do you want to leave us with?

Speaker 4 (56:00):
All I can say is go to sebral dot com
or go to the link at the end or program
where we're just put a link to that article read why.
If you really want to know the truth, you got
to have an open mind. You gotta be willing to
be wrong. If you're not willing to be wrong, you
can't learn anything. I had to admit I went from
the greatest fan of the Moon missions to saying it's

(56:21):
possible they faked it, to finally, after three and a
half years into a five year project.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Pop in the tape. Don't show to the public.

Speaker 4 (56:28):
They're faking it. In front of my eyes, there's a
CIA talking to them. I had to admit it. They
did not go. And when you look at the logic
that they claim they did something fifty years ago that
cannot be repeated today by any nation on Earth. And
their estimate to go to the Moon is twenty years
from now, when it only took him eight years to
go to the Moon with half a century older technology.
That's proof itself that it didn't happen then because it

(56:50):
can't happen now.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Bart, Thank you so much, when the time went so fast.
As soon as you get that book done.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Hit me up.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
We'll put you right on you here, okay man, all
right right, thank you brother, and I'll sing that NP
four okay, all right, thank you. Connect all right. Then
we had Bart Sibrel. You go to Cybrel dot com
s I B R E L and the link he's
talking about is to the sleuth Journal dot com and
the articles called did they really walk on the Moon?

(57:18):
Forty eight years ago on the very first attempt? And
it's like a fifteen thousand word article it's a very
very very serious article with a lot of content on
these very proud of it too effect. He says, this
is gonna be like the basis for the book of
bart' sprell. You can find him a Astronauts Gone Wall.
There's a lot of good stuff. He gets into some
fisticuffs with these. I wish he let me ask my question.

(57:40):
I really enjoyed it and maybe I can get him
come back for two hours to do another, a two
hour show Astronauts kind of wild. It's funny. You find
it on YouTube also, so you can buy it over
at the Cybrell dot com. And then the other one's
funny thing happened on the way to move fascinating topic.
I love this and like I said, I used to
have that photo on my wall in my office and
everybody when they start, they'd walk right up to it.
Because this is before the Internet, before you could just

(58:01):
google something and find it right away for people to
see an enlarged photo of the guy in the flag
on the moon that did he look for the shadows
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She's gonna be telling us her satanic ritual abuse information.
It's funny how he didn't respond to what when I
mentioned Jack Parsons. I wonder what he knows about that

(58:43):
he doesn't want to talk about it. I wanted to
ask him to if you ever experienced any danger himself,
if you ever had any threats or violence against himself
and any attempts maybe on his life. So that's a
Cibrell dot com. And that article he's very ad in
a link in the description is the Sleuth Journal dot com.
And if people say I have a lisp, now I apologize.

(59:03):
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