Bush Killing Reagan: The Bush-Hinckley Conspiracy Bill O’Reilly Won’t Tell Abou

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secret information. Okay. Our guest today is the author of
the book Bush Killing Reagan, the Bush Hinkley Conspiracy Bill.

(01:44):
O'Reilly won't tell about? Our guest is Niles Mercado, which
is a pseudonym. Niles. Are you there? Okay, great man,
welcome to the show. Now, tell us a little bit
about yourself. Who is Niles Mercado?

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (02:01):
The list is just a name.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
I had some relations to my name, but it's just
a pseudonym I used to in order to put out
books on conspiracy theories, those that are very delicate, and
if you know we're connected to my personal profile, would
would make my uh my other businesses a little bit difficult.
So I just use that for everything related to conspiracy history.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
Hey, before we get started. When I called you on
the phone before, do you have the same audio setup
as when I called you a minute ago?

Speaker 1 (02:34):
I'm sorry?

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Is it?

Speaker 6 (02:35):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (02:37):
Yeah? Because are you not two years ago? Yeah? You know,
you don't sound very good. You sound like you're on
a speakerphone or something like that.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Okay, how about now.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
That's I think that's better. I think that's better. Okay, great,
Oh yeah, that's much better. Okay, So now I'm looking
at your little bio here. You got on because you
sent me over this PDF with charts and graphs and
all kinds of stuff like that, timelines and people get
that pdf.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Sure, if you go to six figure Team dot com
slash Reagan, so it's spelled out six figure team dot
com slash forward slash Reagan, and there you will get
basically every diagram that's from the book, but in color format,
and then you can follow along with this.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
Discussion and also too if you go there a six
figure team or team.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
A team as a teenager. Yeah, the the publishers, the
publishers of the book are also into like team enablement
and finding alternatives to college, which is kind of why
I hooked up with them, because you know that that
is a whole other conspiracy is the whole college debt system.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
Oh yeah, right, isn't that outrageous? But okay, so you
go to this website here, and there will be a
link in the comments and the description, and you can
also get a free book about putin all the people
at Putin skilled.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Right right, that ten people in his so called deadpool.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
Now, when you were looking into Putin, did you ever
look into that whole business about the apartment bombing.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
The apartment bombing, I believe, Yeah, that is actually in
the report. It's been a while since I put that together.
That was the first thing I did on the conspiracy
investigation side the things.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
Yeah, because I'd like to hear more people talking about
that apartment bombing. You know, I tried to book a
couple of guests on it, and you really can't find
anybody that's willing to talk about it, even people that
wrote books about it.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Now it's hard to get information on it. Yeah, there's
more information on the sushi on the sushi assassinations.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
What's the sushi assasination?

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Oh? Where they found radioactive material? And I believe it
was in London and there was someone who was an
outspoken the opponent of Putin, and it turned out that
he had like a radioactive isotope in his sushi when
he was at a restaurant. And that's not just the
sort of thing that just happens by accidents.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
So yeah, right, right right, Okay, Now about the author here,
it discusses about how it's consulted for various government agencies,
including the Air Force and the Department of Justice. And
can you give us a little elaborate on that.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Uh, yeah, I mean I try and keep that stuff
fairly private. But the reason I started to put that
in my bio is just because there's a lot that
people sometimes I think is incredulous about conspiracy theories when
they don't realize is that the main thing you learned
from working with the government is just its compartmentalization, right
that you really don't need to, you know, get a

(05:34):
whole agency behind something, you know, because everything is really
separated into a silos. So it is really easy to
get a certain operations through with a certain portion and
not have the rest of your agency to even be
aware of what's going on.

Speaker 5 (05:47):
And so, can you give us an idea of how
you consulted with the Department of Justice? Look in what
area I can I'm sorry, all right, okay, okay, So
Nile's Mercado? Am I pronounce that croque mercado?

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (05:59):
Yes, yes, yes, okay. So now the Bush killing Reagan,
the Bush and Clee concernacy. Bill o'reley won't tell about
but now's mccrado will give us an overall picture. Why
don't you make your case for us what your theory is,
and then we'll let you make your case.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Right. So, with regard to this particular assassination, the reason
why I even put out this book in the first place,
it was just because Killing Reagan was coming out, and
I just knew it was going to be filled with misinformation,
and you know from Bill O'Reilly, and so I was
even surprised that even the mainstream media even picked that
certain aspects of his book. And you know that there

(06:39):
were certain items that people from the bo from the
Reagan administration said were you know, outright false and that
he knew were false and those sort of things. But really,
besides all that drama, really I knew that he was
going to miss the point that who was really behind
it ultimately, and most of the Evans really points to
to Vice President George Bush, who really had to of

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course the most to benefit from a Reagan assassination and
also had extensive family ties to the Hinckley family as
well as business relations with the Hinckley family as well
as political association with the Hinckley family. So I don't
know if you want to go into that first or
if on from a if we zoom out, there's kind

(07:21):
of a larger overarching thing that has gone on through decades.
So I don't know which where you want to start with.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
Let's zoom out, that's a good way to put it.
So lay the ground, or how do we get to
this by zooming out? How do we get to this?

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Okay? Okay, So the first thing we have to understand
is just that the vice presidency as we understand it
today is of relatively new invention, right, the idea that
vice presidents, the way that the line of succession works,
the fact that vice presidents get replaced right if there
is the need for the vice president to step in.

(07:58):
That's all stuff that worked out bearing the post Nixon
prior to Nixon resigning and Ford taking over. And the
reason why all that changed at that point in history
was really because the Rockefellers were really trying to get
control of the White House. And so this really goes
back to, uh, really goes back to the Truman administration. Now, FDR.

(08:23):
He was definitely an old sick person when he died,
but there is some you know, there's some information out
there about how the at least the Russians believed that
he was killed by by an intelligence agent, and they
were not allowed to see his body, you know, after
he had passed, uh, you know Stalin's rather Stalin's delegates

(08:44):
were not allowed to you know, see his body. And
there was a lot of information about that. But really
more importantly, when Truman took office, there was no vice
president because that's just not how we did things. In fact,
a quarter of the history of the United States of
America has no vice president. Uh, filling the filling the office.
And and so the next in line was the Secretary
of State. Now the Undersecretary of State was at the

(09:09):
time Nelson Rockefeller. Right, we know that Rockfellers are a
very powerful banking family, and we also it's it's really
interesting because like when you when you there's so many
aspects that you hear about all the time, but then
when you hear one extra detail, it puts it into context.
So we've all I'm sure you've often heard that like
the Nazis when they were leaving Germany, that a lot
of them fled to South America, specifically Argentina and so forth. Right,

(09:32):
that's that's relatively common knowledge. Well it's not common knowledge
is that who was the undersecretary, under secretary of Latin America.
It was Nelson Rockefeller at the time, right, So the
the undersecretaries kind of divide up the world for the
State Department, right, And so he he he was getting
Nazis brought over to Latin America. Then he was trying

(09:53):
to become the Secretary of State so that he would
be second in line to be president, so that a
Truman assassination would put him uh in the present, right.
And so then you roll the clock forward a little bit,
and this starts to put into context the House, the
House of on American Activities Committee, which of course that

(10:13):
occurred in the House later on, but before that, Joe
McCarthy in the Senate was he started the some a
lot of people called it a witch hunt, but really
he had legitimate concerns about the State Department being filled
with what he called the communists, right. And of course
Nazism is just a form of communism that's not loyal
to Moscow. That's really the only difference between Nazism and communism.

(10:37):
And you know, at least at least politically at the time,
and so, uh, he was really trying to route out
a lot of these these agents that have been planted
by Nelson Rockefeller while he was under Secretary of State
and over that area of the world. So you roll
the clock forward in Nixon was not the banker's first choice, right.

(10:58):
Nelson Rockefeller himself wanted to be president, but eventually he
had to realize that people were just not going to
vote him there. And there's even a quote from his
one of his ex wives saying that he knew that
they were that the American electorate would never put him
into office. He'd have to get there some other way.
So this is really a true House of Cards situation.
In fact, there's even a reference in House of Cards
to one of Nelson Rockefeller's initiatives to have a bridge,

(11:23):
I believe, from Connecticut to Long Island, and so there
is a little tie in with with that series. And
so yeah, so Nelson Rockefeller was eventually arranged for Nixon
to be taken down and when Ford went into place,
he was put in as the as the vice president.

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During his vice presidency, there were two attempts on the
life of on the life of Ford right, right, and
two failed attempts right with both with ties to mk
ultra right, because at least one of the both of
both of these shooters had ties to to uh the

(12:05):
Manson family.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
One of them was, but one of them was Squeaky
from who took a shout at him from from a distance.
But let me back up a second, back to McCarthy. Uh. Now,
did McCarthy ever mention Rockefeller by name out loud in
a speech or anything like that?

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (12:25):
No, no, no, I think he understood the ramifications of
doing so. The Rockefellers were extremely powerful outside of politics,
you know, in the banking sector. So he he didn't,
He did not do that. But I mean that's usually
how things are done, right where, you know, when pressure
is being put on, they usually don't name the top people,
you know, I mean they usually Uh.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
And then what about Roy Cohen? Was he an ally
of Rockefeller in New York? Or were they enemies? Was
who an Roy Cohen?

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Roy Cohen? Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with the
name of.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
Sure, right, Cohen was McCarthy's the right hand man. He's
like his little thug there. He's became a big lawyer
in New York, right, Right, Cohen. Yeah, I'm from New York.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Right, right, Yeah, you know you're from New York very.

Speaker 5 (13:12):
So were they ever allies or were they enemies?

Speaker 3 (13:15):
You know? No, I think that they were. I'm not
sure about that. I'm not I have to look up.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
And then where do we leave off before I backtracked?
Where were you again?

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Sure? So, so two attempts on Ford's life, right.

Speaker 5 (13:31):
And Nelson was a squeaky from the Manson girl, right, one.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Of them the Manson girl, and then the other one
also had a tie to h to Manson as well.
It was more tangential. I believe they were both from
the same town in West Virginia or something like that. So, yeah,
they were both from the same small town. Uh, and
they grew up together and they knew each other growing up.
So that's more than a more than a coincident. Yeah.
And so after all that, right, and yeah, she was

(13:57):
she was an inch away and like there was some
emeric alarity with her gun that that she her The
cops took her actual gun because she got tied up
with local law enforcement and then had to use a
different gun that that drew drew to the right by
one inch. So she really would have been as successful,
uh most likely had she had her own gun. And
so afterwards.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
The important to that though, is that because when Ford
was president, they made Nelson Rockefeller vice president.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Correct, correct? Yeah, I mean obviously, you know, uh, Ford
did not have a strong political base, right, so you know,
Ford was not a you know, he was not a
freedom fighter per se. He was just going along with
the you know, he was very much go along to
get along type of type of guy. And so, yeah,
so he was fine with bringing Nelson Rockefeller on, uh

(14:46):
to bring the money with him and to bring the support.
You know that that made his confirmation, you know, once
he agreed to do that, it made his confirmation uh
real really swift. So but what's interesting is that he
drops Nelson rockefe right after the two assassination attempts, right,
which is a very unusual thing to do to drop
your your vice president, right, especially when there was no

(15:07):
public scandal surrounding Nelson Rockefeller that required such a change.
But he I believe that he understood that that Nelson
Rockfeller was after his life so that he could so
that he could become president.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
Wait, let me ask you that after who did Ford
choose as his VP when he was running for a
second term.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Very good question, very question. It was Bob Dole. Yes, yes,
he ran with Bob Doll and Bob Dole was never
a big fan of the Bush family. M yeah, yeah,
and and so yeah, so he ran with Bob Dole
and and of course obviously obviously lost.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
Let me after that one second. I hate to keep
interrupted apologize, but just a little bit more groundwork. You
got to remember Ford was on the Warren Commission. Uh,
that's at that report on the jfk assassination. And and
when Nixon was removed before they could get rid of Nixon,
and many people think that was a coup as well.

(16:05):
We had Lenn Calladney on the show many times and
great books about it. Uh, they had to get rid
of Spiro Agnew first. So then they got rid of
Spiro Agnew by these I R S charges. So they
get rid of Agnew first, right, they put in Ford,
and then Ford pardons Nixon, and then Ford brings in
his his VP, Nelson Rockefeller, which is the most suspicious

(16:26):
thing out of all of us. I totally agree with
you on that. They won. More question too, Now, wasn't
there a thing too, where one of the Rockefellers back
in New York he had a job as the deputy
governor or the deputy mayor, and he was getting paid
one dollar a year, but his office was bigger than
the mayor. Anything about that, you.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Know, Uh no, I'm not I'm not familiar with that, okay,
but yeah, obviously their power structure was in New York.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, I might be misremembering who it was,
but I'm pretty sure it was one of the Rockefellers.
So then okay, so then that's laying the groundwork then
so and then then then then.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah, so so that taxing was phony, right, even though
he did plead just to make it go away. He
also wrote a book saying that he was set up
and that you know, that was all phony and all that.
So Spiragno himself wrote a book where he tried to
clear his name on that issue. So so, yeah, so
he and you know, when you when you think about

(17:17):
what the Clintons have done, you know, the idea that
he got picked up on some minor, you know, I
r s a regularity into the tune of one hundred
thousand dollars is just obscene.

Speaker 5 (17:26):
It was a different world back then. How how old
are you? Because I was alive during all that stuff.
I was, you know, I'm fifty five years old.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, I'm in my I'm in my mid thirties. So
I have to get most of this from from books
and videos and so forth, you know, because.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
I remember even as a kid, saying, Hey, what's going
on here? Why did they get they add to get
rid of agnew for us?

Speaker 3 (17:44):
You know?

Speaker 5 (17:45):
And everyone knew Rockefeller because the old what the you know,
the Birch Society, John Birch Society, everybody knew about the
Rockefeller is being the you know, branch's characters. So okay,
but I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
And that's what That's one thing you have to understand too, right,
is that is that Nixon tried to maintain control of
the White House, right, have his guys there, and he
all the Rockefeller appointees were outside of the White House, right,
so he said, all right, fine, you can control all
the agencies, but the White House is like my personal space.
And so he pushed the Rockefellers off to to that degree.

(18:21):
And then of course you know, we we have the tapes,
and you know, there was the Naval Intelligence and all
that that infiltrated. But in general the agency heads were
all Rockefeller men, and then the White House appointees were
all Nixon got. And so so the I R. S
is what was used to turn against Spurrigno to make
the place for Ford, which then made the place for

(18:42):
for for Nelson Rockefeller.

Speaker 5 (18:46):
And then then I started shooting at Ford. And in
your book to you get into how they were shooting
in Jimmy Carter too, because they wanted to get rid
of Carter so that he could run against Mondale, right
right right.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Well, obviously George Bush versus Mandel would have and UH
would have been a very easy uh would have been
much easier than uh than against then against Jimmy Carter,
and and so and again the Reagan nomination was not
uh was not something that was assured, you know. And
and so the that was not the plan of the banks.

(19:18):
And that's one thing after the stand is that the
Bush family is usually a tie to oil, but they're
really they're really a banking family, uh. And the oil
their oil operations are really an out growth of their
c I A dealings more than their actual business.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
Yeah right. They had a ship called the pots that
was an operations the Potter was involved with the Bay
of Pigs. Remarkable coincidence there.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Right, yeah, right, right, and yeah, and you can actually
there's a pretty good documentary called The Dark Legacy that's
on that. It is from a very left left wing perspective,
but it's still very good documentary. And and they bring
up that connection of the pots of oil. The pots
of Oil was also uh uh is also tied to
the Hinckleys as well. So if we want to start

(20:01):
getting into into this case the.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
Well before that though, what about because Bush is one
of the big guys in your theory here, what did
you come up with? You hear these stories about Bush
being involved with the JFK assassination and his name coming
up of the next day and stuff, right right, so
oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
And another point on the JFK thing I just wanted
to bring up was just about the Warren Commission, right,
and so how Ford? You mentioned that Ford was on
the Warren Commission, right, and and so the the that's
part of the reason why they knew that he could
be trusted to be to be the president. Uh And
the same the same pattern occurred with the nine to

(20:44):
eleven Commission. Right, if you look at who the big
players were in the nine to eleven commission, Nancy Pelosi
was on the nine eleven commission, as was as was
UH Vice President Biden right before he was vice president.
And so after after nine eleven commissions, she goes to
become a Speaker of the House and he becomes Vice president.
Now getting back to your rolling back to your question, though, Yeah,

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I think Dark Legacy does a really good job on
the front of Eddie connections between you know, the bush
the bushes in the jfk assassination, and in terms of
where that connects with this is is really the point.
The contact point is the pots of oil. But but yeah,
that does a really good, really good job of that

(21:26):
for anyone that wants to pursue that angle.

Speaker 5 (21:28):
You know that one of the people they floated to
run the nine to eleven commission too was Henry Kissinger,
right imagine.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Which is which is just so absurd. But it's funny
because the general public just sees Henry Kissinger is like, Oh,
he's been around, and he's like a regular fixture kind
of guy, you know what I mean. They just don't
understand about Memorandum two hundred or any of the other
dealings he's done, you know.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
Right right, Okay, Now, what about another question too that
I often ask people, is uh Nixon? You know, obviously
he was up to speed on what happened to JFK.
And then he brings into his White House his on
little secret police there, all these guys, all the Watergate
burglars and stuff like that, like sturges in them. You know,

(22:12):
we're all involved in a JFK assassination. What would motivate
him to bring in all these guys who just killed
a previous president, right right right?

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Well, see right there, I think you're making an assumption
that's that's not the case because he had it's miners. Okay.
One thing I have to understand is that that burglary
was all a farce, right right, It didn't exist. The
the wired tapping, by the way, there did not exist,
right Like they claimed that there was wired tapping. They

(22:44):
went and searched everywhere, they said there was no wired tapping.
Then a little while later they were told to go
and check again, like, oh, go check that phone again,
and then sure enough there was a wired tapping machine.
So really all that and there's a whole bunch of
aspect of that event. So like like the the doors

(23:05):
were taped right so that they went have to uh
so that they wouldn't have any problem down you know
what I mean? And but they they they got away
and they were never really wony wired t happing done,
and that only appears later. So that was really an
attempt to bring down Nixon, believe from the Rockefeller because

(23:28):
those were like you said, those were all Rockefeller and
those are all banker guys with connections to the bushes
into the.

Speaker 5 (23:34):
Bushes and and right and and Bay Pigs. Also what
the the Watergate was that the shockley that that top
cop was just was his day off and he just
happened to be parked out in front to come in
there and arrest everybody. Uh. But I have interviewed so
many people involved with the Watergate and bad pigs, Frank
Sturg just his nephew, who was his alibi by the way,
for for the Jeff cassination today and how you mean.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
For one of his planations, right, because he has like
multiple you know, the year's been an interviewed to given
multiple details about where he was.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
Yeah. Jim Hunt is a law professor down in Texas. Right,
And I've had him on the show couple of times,
and he was a he's a nephew. Oh you got
to hear the stories he tells about Sturgis Man, about
how Sturgis had his own B twenty five bomber plane
and his own bomber jet. Okay, and then and he
went and he dropped bombs on top of the palace
in Haiti because the president owed money to the mafia.

(24:26):
He's got making their own. Uh, he's got great stories.
But the question I always asked this guyse and I
asked the E. Howard Hunt's son to as well, Saint
John Hunt. Uh, how could this be? You know, you
got some of the guys Operation forty, some of the
top assassins on the planet at the time, and they're
did they're doing they're doing this job and a couple

(24:48):
of cops show up and they're just gonna put their
hands up and say, Okay, we give up. You know
what I'm saying? Right right yet?

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Right? Right? Well? Yeah, sometimes you don't know whether it's
a planned bungling, like the Watergate was most certainly a
plan bungling where they were planning to be caught or
then sometimes I mean time and you know, the unforeseen
occurrence just happened. Sometimes, you know, like they aren't all powerful,
even though they they do seem to run the show

(25:19):
most of the time. That doesn't mean they're all powerful,
you know what I mean. And it doesn't mean it
doesn't mean they're all united either. So a lot of
times they will uh, you know, trip up each other's operations,
you know, just to get a leg within their community.
It's not it's not like there's this happy united group
of banking interests. They are united against against everyone else.
They war with each other as well.

Speaker 5 (25:39):
Are you familiar with the theory that the Watergate Berkeley
was to get the Little Black Book about the Hollywood,
the DC Madam and and and even there's a lot
of you know, Mo Dean, Dean's wife was was involved
with that escorts service. Are you familiar with that whole there?

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Right? Uh? Yeah, I have heard that. I mean, I'm
big with I'm big with key Bono and with the
context of what happens after the fact, and it's it's
pretty clear that the Rockefellers were trying to muscle their
way into the White House, and so I kind of
see everything in that context, especially since all Rockefellers men's
were appointed to the agencies that were responsible for bringing

(26:20):
down spur Agnu and then bringing down, ultimately bringing down Nixon.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
I got you, I got you. Okay, Then where do
we leave off from the chronology then?

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Okay, So yeah, we haven't really gotten to the Bush
Hinkling connection part of of everything. So there's there's kind
of two real interesting areas. One one is of course
all the things that happened the day of the shooting,
right and there was a lot of break of procedure
and uh, you know where the you know, the the

(26:57):
limo was moved after you know, Baking gets out go
to the DC hotel and when he comes out the
he's having to go walk forty feet down down the
down the road, that sort of thing, and and then
you know, of course the news coverage and all like that.
But I think that the most interesting part to me
is just the connections, the copious amount of connections between
the bushes and the Hinckley's. So I don't know if
that's something you want to get into at this point.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
Before we get into that, the connections between Bushes and
Hinckley Okay, before we get into that though, have you
ever seen that video and I've only seen it once
or twice where it looks like one of the Secret
Service agents is swapping out the gun that was on
the floor.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But you know the thing about it
is that the guns that were yeah, the guns that
were that were at the scene were not the ones
that were used on on Reagan, right. You know because
if you see if you see the videos slowed uh,
slowed down, you can see that, uh, that Reagan is

(27:54):
responding to being shot at the same time that Hinckley
is shooting one of one of his Secret Service as.
And yeah, yeah, and so and also too if you
see the angle of all of his shots, none of them,
none of them could have hurt hit Reagan. Also to
the cut in Reagan was not a gunshot wound. It
was a small metal It was a small uh slit, right,

(28:19):
that would be consistent with the entrance wound of a
of a small disc. That's why we have a picture
in the report I'm having your listeners download is where
you know they show this special the special gun issued
by the CIA, where they're able to send these little
discs quietly with CO two pressure and and they even

(28:41):
everyone described it as a little disc that was in Reagan.
They tried to explain this by ricocheting, and they're saying
the bullet ricocheted in the limo and and then deformed
into a disc and then went into Reagan. That's the
official story.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
Yeah, right, they said it hit on them all it
flattened out and then then when it's a rag and yeah,
that's you're right, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Yeah, yeah, it is ridiculous. Well and especially too because
you know, in some scenario could be possible, but with
the guns, with the bullets that were used at the time,
for that type of gun, the they were they were
made to be very hard, so they would they would
shatter where they would form, right, And so it didn't.
It doesn't meet with the type of anion and it's

(29:26):
just not consistent with it. And also to the timing
is off on the video when you see, uh, when
you see this the shot taking place.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
I remember watching this on TV that day and I
was always suspicious of things already by that point.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
And they were saying that these are some kind of
special exploding bullets or like, right, and when they were
doing the surgery. They didn't realize that these were these
fans exploding bullets. And one of the things that always
struck me is a odd it's because they were saying, well,
they knew that these are like exploding, like they knew that. No, no,

(30:02):
they didn't know that. Like they couldn't look in the
guy's gun or whatever or hotel him find his bullets.
But they already knew about Jody Foster. They already were
talking about Jody Foster before they knew what kind of
bullets were in the pressure. Yeah, how does that come up?
So what about Yeah, you're a familiar with the news
accounts of exploding bullets they were talking about.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Yeah, yeah, But I mean, the only problem is, right,
is that there was no that's not what Reagan experienced, right,
Like Reagan didn't have an exploding bullet. Reagan, they weren't
even sure if he was shot when he was in
the emergency room. They thought he was having a heart
attack because they couldn't find the entrance with it. Right.
Then eventually one of the nurses sees, oh, yeah, there's
this little uh, this little black I guess his blood

(30:43):
had turned black and there was a small amount of
it dried up, and that's where they that's where they
saw to uh start to operate and to do the
X rays. They required three X rays to even find
this bullet. So there was no exploding bullet when it
came to Reagan. That's just not what his wounds were,
even the official story. But what's interesting about the Jodie
Foster thing is that that's a that's a common thing

(31:04):
that you see where a ridiculous motive is put out
as as part of the UH as part of the
news coverage, right, and so you know, the same thing
happened with the John Lennon shooting. They said he thought
that Lennon was a phony. And then with the Robert
the RFK thing, it was a newspaper article in the
sure pocket about Kennedy's plan to sell bombers to Israel.

(31:26):
Only the only problem with that is that the Sir
hanster Han was a I believe, a seven day inventist.
He was a Christian, so why would he care about
He would have no gripe with Israel? You know what
I mean? It's it fit the picture of Sir hanser Han,
but not the reality.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
You know, Hey, you know I got this I n
s document about Sir hanster Han that talks about how
he was he used to he attended parties uh over
at Sharon Tate's house, a drug and sex parties. I'll
send it to you after the show, please.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (31:56):
Yeah, I got it from Mary Terry, who now I'm
hearing he got from Sands. I'm not sure if that's
true or not, but I got it from More. Sorry.
They wrote the book The Ultimate Evil right now with
the whole processed shirt stuff. Yeah, so it was a process.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
One thing you need to listen to too is the there's
a long tape of Nina Rhodes Shoes being being I
don't even want to say interrogated, because it's it's way
worse than that. The police are badgering her about changing
her story about a second truder. So that's something to
look into too, and they go on for eighteen minutes
and at the end of it, she finally breaks down
and she's like, you know, they're telling her, you're gonna

(32:31):
upset the Kennedy family. They just lost to of their
family members, and you know they're they're laying it on
so thick, and eventually she changes her story.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
Yeah, and you got to think too, with the whole
thing with the RFK that then then they tear down
they lose the door, the door jam, they all that
stuff with the bullet holes, they lose all that, But
then they tear it down. The Ambassador Hotel, which we
should have been a landmark anyway if there wasn't a
murder there. But then they just tear down the hotel.

(33:00):
It's nothing.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Yeah, that's a common thing, uh with the oh Man,
I always forget the name of the but the you know,
the shooting that everyone thinks was fake in the Northeast, I.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
Forget the name sand Hook Sandy Hook.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yeah, yeah, the same thing there that the elementary school
is demolished, you know, like let's just get rid of it.
No one can go there and you know and do
videos or anything.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
You know.

Speaker 5 (33:22):
It's always interesting too to me that the house of
Ariel Castro, who had those three girls kidnapped in that
house for all that time, and that story was just
so bizarre, and that they they destroyed that house too
and put a little park there and in the middle
of our row houses, you know, of a of a
neighborhood just always just tear down a house because it's
just so bizarrely right.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
So now we were nine to eleven, they they quickly
got all that, all the debris out of there and
shifted to China.

Speaker 5 (33:49):
You know, right right, And and the first and not
the first World Trades Center bombing. They gave it all
to a John Goudy's son in law for him to sell.
And you can't any men of this stuff. But now
back to Jodi Foster for a quick second. And there's
recordings too of Hinkley talking to Jodie Foster which sound
very bizarre. Uh have you listened to us?

Speaker 3 (34:14):
No, I don't even I don't even think that they're real. Franklin,
you know, that's a whole of the subject. Yeah, I mean,
I mean, what what when we're researching one of our
other books, the the Orgun Shooting, you know, you realize
how much how much stuff gets faked, And uh, I
don't know, I'd have to hear it again, but I

(34:34):
remember looking into that, and uh, I think the connection
with that Jodie Foster is which is fabricated, you know,
you know, and it's certainly it's certainly a lot easier
to understand, like, oh, he's obsessed with Jodie Foster and
so he killed Hione. But I mean, you know then
you it's such an easy way to divert from the
actual family connection.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
You know, right right now, So back to the family connection.
That's what we've kind of left off there now. I
guess that's sort of start because the way that all
first came out was because the news report came out
like the next day about how Neil Bush was going
to have dinner with the brother of Hankley's brother. Now
has that been confirmed, yes.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Actually, that's that's mainstream news, right it only they only
reported it once on NBC. But the way they tried
to frame it right was that was that you know
that they were that they didn't really know each other,
that this was going to be like a first meeting
that sort of thing, and that they canceled when because

(35:37):
of news of the shooting. But that's really not the case.
They canceled their meeting based on the fact that it
became public that they were having the meeting. That's why
they canceled, you know. But it did it did come
out that they that they did have a plan meeting.
That that was on NBC.

Speaker 5 (35:49):
They aired it once, and it's interesting. Neil Bush is
one of the secret Bushes you really don't hear about,
or unless when he's stealing from savings and loans and
the other one. Marvin Bush was over there at the
what do you call it? Nine to eleven?

Speaker 3 (36:03):
I think Marvin Marvin ran the security right for nine
to eleven or he was on the board of one
of those security companies.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
Yeah, and he also had a very you know the
story about him where his housekeeper or his maid got
run over by her own car and in front of
the house.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
No, but that's not strange or anything. That happens all
the time, right, you know I've had I've had to
switch maids three or four times because they're constantly running
themselves over with their own car.

Speaker 5 (36:29):
That's right. Well, well, you know what, there was a
hill you know what about I hate to get a
little too wild here, but what are you thinking that
that theory about Barbara Bush dating Alista Crowley.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
I haven't heard that. I I think I'm allergic to
stories about Barbara Bush's like sex life.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
You know, it was Barbara Bush's mother, Piermont is something
like that, who dated Aliston Crowny. There is something too
that she actually lived there at the same time, she
was living in the same house as Alistair Crowley, of
George Bush's mother in law. And if you look at, uh,
find some young pictures of the Bush brothers, the four Horsemen,
you know, the four Bush sons, you know, find them

(37:14):
when they're like in their twenties, and they got a
real serious resemblance to a young Alistair Crowley. So, and
even Barbara Bush does too if you look at their
their features and stuff. But okay, we're getting right.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Well, I think that's definitely true. On the Clinton side,
that's definitely not.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
Yeah, that's right. Well, Clinton's got its own pros. Now,
what did you come up with the connections between Bush
and Henckley dynasties?

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Okay, so I not to get into family trees and everything,
but they're cousins, right, They're like seventh cousins, right, which
I know, which I know is fairly removed, but like,
I have no cousin connection to any of these people, right,
It's not like everyone has the seventh cousin connections to them.
So that's that's a little something, right, But then you
go beyond that, the their business deals, right, are really involved.

(38:03):
I mean they're as closely tied business business wise as
you can get. And the reason is because remember getting
back to the pots of Oil, right, which again was
really like a C I A front. Right, there's like
a CIA money laundering type front situation. And the potsa
Oil bailed out Vanderbilt Oil right because they you know,
they had run it into the ground, so to speak.

(38:24):
And that's when it became Vanderbilt Energy. And John Hinckley
Senior was president of Vanderbilt Oil. And so that's one
very strong connection, right. You know, George Bush's oil company
bailed out John Hinckley's oil company. Right, So that's that's
one right there. Then the next the next significant thing
that John Hinckley Senior was involved with was World Vision,

(38:47):
which is its own subject. And World Vision got funds
via the US AID, US A A I D and
the State Department and and through the CIA. So Wish
was heading the CIA while funneling money to World Vision, right.
And World Vision is connected to both the John Lennon

(39:08):
shooting and to this shooting, to the Bush killing Reagan shooting.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
Now, describe what World Version was. Wasn't it like a
Christian uh uh? What's that called?

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Okay, Christian outreach or something like a missionary Yeah, I
guess you could, you could call it that. Its relationship
to crisis definitely non existent. But but uh, one thing
I have to understand, right, is that there's a reason
why the CIA funds, uh these outreach groups that basically

(39:40):
handle refugees, right. And you know, because think about what's
what interests the c I A have in that that's
like a unis, that's like a unif thing or a
you know, a riitable thing.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
Right.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
The reason is because refugee camps are the perfect recruitment
center for assets, right, because you have distressed people usually
redeem that they are opposed to, right, and it's just
a perfect place to pick up intelligence assets. Right. And
in the case of World Vision, both Mark David Chapman

(40:12):
who killed John Lennon and John Hinckley Junior who shot Reagan,
they both did outreach work together with the Vietnamese refugee
with Vietnamese refugees in Laos and then also I think
also in the United States, and so they are handling
Vietnamese refugees and yeah, and then you know, it's just

(40:34):
kind of strange that both of them ended up you know,
becoming famous assassins or attempted assassins.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
Yeah, and both carrying Catcher and the rye. But this
session with Catcher in the rye.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Yeah yeah, well yeah, which may be part of the
because remember two. Another common thread between Mark David Chapman
and John Hinckley Jr. Was the ending up in mental
awards right before the shooting. Right. Mental awards are more
or less controlled by the government, I mean, are funded
largely by the government. So I believe Mark David Chapman
ended up in a Hawaii mental ward before he shot Lennon,

(41:07):
and then John include Junior ended up in a in
a u in it after after him stalking Carter, he
ended up in a Colorado mental facility. Uh. And then
shortly after his release goes and shoots Reagan or I
shouldn't say shoots Reagan, but he's involved in the shooting
of Reagan, let's put.

Speaker 5 (41:24):
It that way. Yeah. And the shooting with the Hankley
is kind of suspicious to as well, because I had
another guest on the show once, Rod Ferrell, who counted
all the bullet holes he went and found old. Because
there's no you can't get a lot of the police
reports stealed. But he actually he got all the videos
and all the news clippings and counted all the bullet

(41:46):
holes in the windows of the jacket everywhere, you know,
and if there's more bullet holes and there are bullets
in the gun, there's just no way around it.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
There is really no way around that. And there's there's
a reason too why that occurs, right, Because that's one
thing about this MK ultra stuff, right, It's usually presented
in a very cartoony way like, oh they have you know,
like as if mind control is doing some real advanced
control of the person. But really, the CIA failed in
a lot of its attempts for advanced mind control. And

(42:17):
what they settled on was that it's fairly easy to
create a patsy, in other words, someone you could put
in a place and wipe their memory afterwards, right, and
so that they're incoherent when they're picked up, and no
one asked too many questions. Right. So that's what they
were successful at achieving. And I believe that that is
what the Catcher and the Rye connection is just simply

(42:40):
that that book was just used for programming. Because they
have people repeat phrases over and over and over again.
And I don't think there's anything from the content of
the book itself that caused them to go shoot people,
which is kind of how I was presented.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
Either, we didn't JD. Salinger when he moved to that
little town, like he bought up all the copies and
made sure that there were no copies sold in that town.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Yeah, I think you didn't want to see it when
he was out and about.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
Or Now what about scientology this, Does Hinckley have a
scientology connection because Chapman Cer certainly.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
Did, right Chapman did. I haven't seen that with Hinckley. Yeah,
I haven't. Haven't seen that come up. But they're you know,
but they knew each other and they worked at a
World Vision Obviously, what.

Speaker 5 (43:25):
You're saying that Chapman and Hinckley knew each other, Yes,
that's what I'm.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Trying to say. They both worked for World Vision, which
which was headed by John Hinckley Senior and funded by
the CIA, you know, and other government agencies that gave
them money to handle refugees.

Speaker 5 (43:40):
Now I know they both, I know they both were
associated with World Vision, But what was that at the
same time? And isn't that a big organization with a
lot and a lot of different locations all over the world.
Were they in the same location.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
It is a big location. That's why in the diagram
in our book we do have a dotted line for
Hinckley because it's it's where Mark David Chapman was is
more UH, is more establishable. But there there is a
reference to them being together in laws, but it's we
weren't able to confirm it. So we have a dotted
line connection in our in our diagram.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
That's very interesting. And one of the things stood that
struck me about Chapman was when you hear about this
art collection, Like, here's this guy supposed to be working
as a security guarden and he's got this massive art
collection worth you know, thousands and thousands of dollars. What
about Hankley? Did he have funds of that people can explain?

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely. And so you know, the two main
investigatory precepts are, you know, keybono, who benefits and followed
the money right? And so with John Hinckley, what's interesting
is that all the time that he was chasing down
Carter right and going from from place to place and
UH and contacting lots of people as well, because they
made it like he was a lone person. But you know,

(44:53):
there's a lot of people talking about him being on
the phone and all that, and in the news reports
they say that he was given money, that he got
money from his parents and other sources, but they never
look into what are the other sources? Where was because
this man never produced a product, never works, you know
that we can see. But they talked about him getting
money from multiple sources, and they they never chase that down.

(45:17):
So yeah, he was being funded through the whole time
he was stalking Carter and planning the Raacan shooting.

Speaker 5 (45:24):
That stuff's not cheap. It's not cheap to fly around,
stay in motels, you know, it's feed yourself. It's not cheap,
you know.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
I mean, if you had, if you had to stop
what you're doing right now and go and just I mean,
I know you do investigative work for your for your business. Sure,
I'm still trying to decide whether you know, cheating on
your mate or political sassination was worse. But but but yeah,
if you had to do that without clients and go
around the country, right, I mean, right, you know, you
find out of money pretty quick.

Speaker 5 (45:51):
Right, right, right. Hey, what about now? I have a
theory that the Chapman there was two Chapmans in New
York and that weekend and running around New York. One
was a calm guy and one was a very agitated guy.
Did you ever have any indications that Hinckley, that there
was a Hinckley double running around.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Ankley double? Not in the Hinckley's case, right because but
but there were there. One thing that there was was
that he did appear to be in more than one
place at once, right, because there were reports about him
being in more than one place, but not necessarily as
a as a double. I think the way I interpret
that is not that he had a double, but as
much as he was working with uh, with a handler,

(46:30):
you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (46:31):
Gotcha? Okay? So he met what were the more than
one places he was documented at?

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (46:38):
This is when he was in DC, like leading up
to the to the shooting. Uh. He's supposed to be
at the hotel and I forget the other location, but
he's he's supposed to be at a papone at the hotel,
a pay point, at a restaurant, and at the hotel,
I believe at the same time.

Speaker 5 (46:53):
Okay, yeah, and his phone records of him being at
the payphone.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Yeah, Well the phone records are okay. The phone records
at his hotel are more are more set because there
was his hotel room, right, He made multiple they said,
about a half a dozen local calls from his hotel
room and then so from the payphon. I I think
the time periods are a little bit offesome. I'm not
exactly sure that they've ever made that public. I don't

(47:19):
think they've We were trying to find those records and
we had trouble finding that.

Speaker 5 (47:23):
And who was he calling, Well.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
He was probably talking to his handlers, because Rubbert too.
There was the one part we kind of glossed over
was just that when the m the first set of shooting,
there was an NBC correspondent saying that there was a
shooter on the roof right right, And so she initially
she interpreted that as being a Secret Service agent. But
I mean visually, a secret Service agent is someone in

(47:47):
a you know, just someone in a suit, right with
a with a gun. And so so yeah, so there
was obviously some you know, some uh, you know coordination
that had to be done, you know, between having your
Patsy which is and then that's the question too, whether
John Hinckley Jr. Was even aware of exactly what was
going to happen that day, because a lot of times

(48:10):
that in this case, it's a little bit interesting because
normally the patsies are not also the family members of
powerful people.

Speaker 5 (48:17):
Right.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
But remember too, Hinckley Junior was kind of the black
sheep of the family, you know what I mean. And
sometimes the black sheep becomes president in the case of
George W. Bush, and then other cases like in this one,
they put they put them up as a sacrificial lamb,
which you know, if you're you know, I try not
to get into too much of the the religious aspect
of these people, you know, the occult stuff, because it's

(48:40):
pretty sick. But that is an aspect of that, is
that that idea of putting your child through the fire
or sacrificing your child is something that gives you, that
gives you status in that community. So you do see
that pop up from time to time.

Speaker 5 (48:54):
Okay, I think there's a huge occult connection to the
to the Chapman case. What a cult connection did you
come up with the with these Ankleys?

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Okay, Well, the long reason I bring that up is
just because of a lot of times people will object
when they're hearing about here and the family involvement. It's like, well, okay,
if they were going to fascinate him, why would they
Why would they put their own child through that, you
know what I mean, Like, why would they you know,
why wouldn't they just use someone else? And so that's
that's my that's kind of how I make sense of it,

(49:23):
is that you know that is part of the cull practice,
is that sacrifice, sacrificing of your child and uh, you
know that, you know that's happened throughout the ages where
you know, powerful people would do that. But but in
terms of Hinckley that the other thing we have to
understand too is that he didn't go to jail. Okay,
let's let's be clear here, right, He went to like

(49:45):
a luxurious, uh mental facility, you know what I mean.
That was a country club life that is better than
the way ninety nine percent in the world lives, you
know what I mean. So it wasn't like they were
really you know, it wasn't like they were really putting
in a situation where he was going to suffer and
you know, he's a free man today, he walks the
streets John Jr. And And so you know, they were

(50:08):
putting him into a kind of control facility, and he
was kind of the blockshet of the family anyway, So
it wasn't like he was gonna, you know, head Vanderbilt
Energy anytime.

Speaker 5 (50:17):
Soon, right, And you know, to win a successfully litigate
a insanity defense is impossible. I think it's not less
than one percent. It's like, you know, it's a hopeless defense.
But here we had this guy pulled her off, and
then it became like, well that they all do it,
and they all play the insanity to get off their

(50:37):
murder charges. You know, this is like it's some kind
of common thing that that actually works. When it doesn't,
not even a little bit, you can't even get some money.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
And I believe that during I believe that during the
time of the shooting, he was in one of the
few jurisdictions that even allowed that defense. Like now, it's
a common place, but I believe that DC was one
of the few places that that'll even allow that. But
also to on the lead and maybe in the next hour,
you know, if we want to get into that a
little bit more, because there's a lot of connections on
the legal end, how he was defended, how he was prosecuted,

(51:09):
you know, in terms of who was brought in.

Speaker 5 (51:11):
For that right right there, right, okay, right, and I
know what you're talking about. Now. Were there any other
attempts on Reagan though, prior to this.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Prior to this, there there there was nothing, nothing. Remember too,
you have to understand that this is the first ninety
days of him being president, Okay, right, So they wanted
to they wanted to get control really quickly because of
Reagan's opposition. Remember in the primaries, he was he was
extremely opposed to the Trilateral Commission, right and called out,

(51:42):
you know, called out George Senior for being part of that.
And then George Senior tries to blow it off and say, oh, well,
you know, when I spran for office, I I broke
all my business ties, you know, to all my business organizations,
because he was trying to make it like it was
just a business thing. And uh. And so from the
beginning he was really opposing their agenda, and within ninety

(52:04):
days they made this attempt on his life. And you know,
we can we can get into more in terms of
like the impact that had on that on the administration.

Speaker 5 (52:13):
Yeah, there was a whole thing too about how Ford
almost became his vice president. Remember that before he picked Bush,
he was almost going to pick Forward and it was
even it was a chaos at the convention because he
didn't he didn't have anybody else. Yeah, and and but
then Ford wanted too much power. He wanted to be
co president and some kind of crazy thing like that.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Well, yeah, I mean that's how Reagan thought that people
would view it as a co president. And so he
knew that he had to accommodate the banking interests somehow,
and but he thought that that would be too much.
But if he took George Bush, he thought that George W. Bush,
George Bush Senior, was a lot less likable and that
he would be a lot easier to manage. And so

(52:58):
that was kind of like the the lesser of two evils,
because it has just been too overwhelming having two people
for mister president. Uh, you know, in power.

Speaker 5 (53:08):
Okay, So we're here with the now's Mercado and I
just opened up this thing here because I want to
get the this PDF that you sent me here, what
was it called? Again? I got I got a six
figure team dot com and you put a front slash
Reagan r e A an. But you'll have that. It

(53:30):
will be in a description, and it'll be in the yeah,
in the discussion description and the comments. The book we're
talking about today is Bush Killing Reagan, the Bush Hankley
conspiracy Bill O'Reilly won't tell about. Did you get any
grief from Bill O'Reilly from putting his name in?

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Actually? Actually I did, Actually did. Uh. We got complaints
from their publisher. I'm sure our title, our title was suppressed.
So if you see two different covers of the book,
that's why we had to change our cover and change
a few other things. We had to change the subtitle
on the cover.

Speaker 5 (54:05):
And what made you get into this whole thing? What
the first got your hair up? And when you saw this?

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Oh well, the first book I wrote was was when
Prosecutors Attack, And it was you know, we can get
into that at some point, but basically, the the growing
up around the OJ Simpson trial and seeing how once
one side of the media coverage was on that, that's
really what kind of first made me question all this stuff.

(54:33):
And then once you start pulling the thread, you start realizing,
you know, all the conspiracies behind this stuff.

Speaker 5 (54:37):
Yeah, I'm familiar with that title. I didn't know that
was you. And the OJ case is a weird galore too,
man is there's all kinds of connections to uh scientology
with the OJ bunch around there.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Yeah. Yeah, it also ties to drug running, which is
really interesting. We can get into that.

Speaker 5 (54:54):
Oh yeah, I'm gonna have you back. When to have
you back? Let's just cover today all this stuff here
with Miles Mercado, Bush killing Reagan, the Bush Hankly conspiracy
bill O'Reilly won't tell you about. We'll be right back
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Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
Okay, well, welcome back to the Opperman Report. I'm your host,
private investigator at Opperman. We're here today with Niles Mercado
and the book we're talking about it. Wait, we're all
over the place. Imbu od you a minute ago. I
definitely got to have you back and really enjoying this
Bush killing Reagan, the bush Hinkley conspiracy Bill O'Reilly won't

(01:01:07):
tell you about, because Bill O'Reilly he's in that shower
with those loofless and he's too busy. One night, I
read that whole lot. I read that whole lawsuit about
him in the shower with the loofs. You're familiar with that, right, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
I I I don't get all that stuff all the
me too. I have a very perspective on all that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:28):
But well, I gotta tell you I read the whole thing,
and people thought I made it up. People says, no, man,
go to smoking gunn You can read the doctments right
there now. One of the things and this pdf you
sent me over here, and let me remind people were
to finatic again. It's over the uh six yeah, six

(01:01:51):
figure teen dot com front slash Uh. Now, he sent
me this thing and it talks about how h the
trial balloon was John Lennon that assassination. Then the chart
assassination was John Hankley and ron o'reagan and then the
media distraction was the assassination on the pope. What do

(01:02:15):
you have on that?

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Right? So I think that this is a format that
you see a lot, you know, when people say things
happen in threes, and I think part of the reason
is because of this idea, Right, let's work out the
kings of the trial, let's get done, and let's get
people stopped talking about it with the third and one
one right. And what interesting is that Mark David Chapman

(01:02:38):
might have actually been a consideration two to assassinate Gerald
Ford as well, because he was actually he became program director,
he began the key ad to program director David Moore
over at the UH over at the World Vision Association,
right right, And so he was actually in meetings with

(01:02:59):
Gerald Ford shaking his hands, and I believe they have
pictures of that. And so you know, the guy who
killed Lennon was in a room shaking hands with Caryl Ford.
And so they ended up using him for UH for
the for the John Lennon, you know, to be a
patsy for John Lennon, which was had a lot of
similar aspects right. Like one of the big ones too
is like you said about the gun, not the more

(01:03:22):
bullets firing then than could have came from the gun. Right.
Then there's also two where he had for Jo Lennon,
there were multiple gun shots were in the same wound,
which is usually a sign of a very skilled rifleman, right,
and not someone with a gun handgun just shooting off
at close distance. And the reason, the main reason of

(01:03:42):
it is is merely because of the limitation of mind control.
It's really not as advanced as as some people think.
But they can make someone a patsy, but then that
means they can't reliably be a shooter. So you need
to have a secondary shooter to back up. And really
you just need them. If you can get them to
fire a gun at all, just to it, just to
have the bullet founds coming from them, then they're happy

(01:04:04):
with that. But a lot of times they don't even
have g s M. They haven't even you know, they
haven't even fired. So yeah, so that that one is
very similar, and and then we know that the that
just just like a very short amount of time afterwards,
was the failed attemption on the on the John Pope,
John Paul the second, which may have been just used

(01:04:25):
as a distraction.

Speaker 5 (01:04:27):
And that's so interesting too because the guys around that
Pope John Paul assassination also later on they were connected
to the World Trade Center bombing, and then you know
all these these other things, you know, and even as
far back as the Iran embassy uh hostage thing that
went on, which was right right right, and then when
you when you're factoring that whole October surprise thing and

(01:04:49):
Ali North was involved in that, and you know who
was involved with that too, uh Sturgis was involved in
that too, uh covering that thing up, you know, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
I mean the it's interesting how all this stuff connects
because you know, maybe when I come back for when
Prosecutor's attack, we can talk about the Iran contra, because
there really is between Iran Contra, the O. J. Simpson trial,
and the it sounds funny when you put all together,
and the Fast and Furious, those are all basically one
continuous operation. And because the way O. J. Simpsonizing is

(01:05:23):
just with the Rampart scandal on what was going on there,
so we can we can get into all that when
I when I come back, because that is that all
that is is connected. It's it's all the same, you know,
the bankers, you know, laundering drug money.

Speaker 5 (01:05:36):
Basically, Yeah, we definitely got to have you back with
that because these are all the topics that cover oj Iran, Contra, Watergate,
all the assassinations. You know, this is all my stuff.
This is what we do. We cover all the time.
That's a great yeah, oh yeah, this is really good stuff. Now.
One more thing, so I want to get back to
with the chairman assassination. Was that gun turned up messing this?

(01:06:00):
The maintenance guy picked up the gun and took it
down to his his basement office and put it away
in a drawer. I used to play with that, right right.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Yeah, and then and it's just you just can't find
it anymore, you know. You know, it's funny how many
things really go missing in all this, right, Like you know,
Kennedy's brain went missing after they went to the Naval
Medical Center, you know what I mean? And you know
this happens repeatedly. Oh yeah, the little disc that was
in Reagan, right, the little you know, why can't we

(01:06:31):
all see pictures of that? You know what I mean? Well,
that was handed to the FBI and never seen ever
again at very common practice, you know, and when something's
just gone. You know, it's one thing when you say, oh,
we're not going to release certain evidence. You know, you
can have this mounting you know, political movement to you know,
to have that overturned. But when you just say, oh,

(01:06:53):
it's just lost. It's gone. No one knows where it is,
there's no chain of custody, it's gone. You know, what
are you going to do?

Speaker 5 (01:06:58):
Yeah, it really is amazing how they get away with that,
you know, and more people don't. But I guess people
don't talk about it, you know, and always distracting things
come up, like with this Pope assassination, which seems so
hanky at the time too.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
It just seems so weird, you know, Yeah that wasn't
a real that wasn't a real association. You know, it's
just but yeah, the but what's interesting too is after
the fact too, you can kind of see how they
how they jumped the you know, if you would you
would think that if you do try to kill the president,

(01:07:30):
right or that, you know, you just never see the
light of day again, you know what I mean. You
just you know, you know, they always say you're going
to shoot the king you better not miss, you know.
But in this case, he had a very nice life
in a you know, in a very nice facility, and
part of the way they arranged that was through the
lawyers that they used. Basically on both ends, there's ties

(01:07:53):
back to the Bush family and the Hinckley family in
terms of who prosecuted him and who defended him. So
that's like a whole other subject.

Speaker 5 (01:07:59):
Yeah, just about to get into that. Edward Bennett Williams, right,
who was the he was even involved in in Whitewater?

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:08:06):
Or his brother was?

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
Yeah? I think it was his brother.

Speaker 5 (01:08:10):
Yep, Yeah, on don't you describe? But who was Edward
Bennett Williams and his brother and who were they and
their background and their law firm and their lobbyists and
all that stuff they're doing.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
Right, right, So to put it in the proper context,
you know, we've all seen on Law and Order, right
or any kind of show like that, where you know,
there's some sort of mob boss or there's some sort
of you know, criminal criminal person, and they have their
lower level people are going through the legal system, and
of course they provide the lawyers, right, right, because if

(01:08:41):
they can provide the lawyers then they can make sure
they get the right defense. They can make sure that
you know, they avoid subjects that they don't that they
don't want touched and things like that. Right. So, so
what's interesting is that that yeah, so so Bush when
he was head of the CIA, one of their mainitanes
word Beniams, right, and he was used to use the

(01:09:01):
vand Hinkley and then also to the promputer. Uh. And
then they also had one of their buddies uh as
the prosecutor to uh, uh you know what, let me
pull that information up. The that was also used during
uh during Whitewater. No, no, no, during Watergate. Sorry, he

(01:09:22):
was also used in Watergate to make sure that uh,
that the Watergate guys got off easy. So the same
person who prosecuted the Watergate guys were the same ones
that I prosecuted, was Hinkley during all this to make
sure that you know, he was basically treated all right
since he was the son of one of their people.

Speaker 5 (01:09:38):
No was it? Why How did Edward Bennett Williams get
picked for this? The judge appointed him?

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
Well that's another thing too, right, is that they they
h this was all done in chambers. This was like
a special appointee. This became This became a big issue
because they completely circumvented the normal The normal way that
it worked is that they were there was like a
roster of fourteen judges, and they were supposed to be

(01:10:07):
they were supposed to be picked randomly, and so instead
they were It's a little bit unclear exactly who about,
exactly who just decided on the judge. But what is
clear is that George Bush was in control of the
situation because he had changed the rules of succession just

(01:10:28):
a little bit, just a little bit prior to that,
he had changed how who was that basically made it
so that he would be in charge in any kind
of crisis situation instead of the Secretary of State.

Speaker 5 (01:10:40):
And who was the Watergate prosecutor that was in charge
of the prosecution of Heckley the prosecution?

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Hold on a second, I'm I'm sorry, I'm drawing a
blank on the name.

Speaker 5 (01:10:51):
Sorry, you want to hear something funny? I had the
first lawyer for the Watergate Berg was on the show.
Is one of the only interviews he's ever done, Doug Caddy,
you know, and he sat right at the same desk
as their Their desk touched each other with e Howard Hunt,
you know, and he became the water, the first wartermate, uh,
the best attorney, right. Do you know what turns out?

(01:11:14):
You know, I gotta be careful what I say because
he's a Facebook friend of right now. But you know
that he was he knew everybody. He knew Guy Banister,
he knew all those guys from JFK. He was. He
was friend before he ever got involved in this stupid company,
the CIA front with Howard Hunt. He was friends when
everybody involved in the JFK. A coincidence because because you see,

(01:11:35):
and I think his son.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
Came forward and said that his father was involved in
the in the assassination right.

Speaker 5 (01:11:40):
Now, I think that when you're thinking of is uh
Saint John Hunt? Who's Howard? Yeah? Yeah, his son did
come forward. I've had him on the show too. Yeah yeah, Oh,
he has great stuff to talk about. You know who
his uncle was and his godfather was. Uh who's that guy? Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:12:03):
Now, I'm not going to remember he was have the
TV show and he was a CIA agent and he
was I'm not gonna remember.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
Okay, So getting back to Hinckley's prosecutor, right, the guy,
the guy's name was Charles Rough, right, and uh rough
prosecuted the Watergate defenders, like I mentioned before, make sure
that they got off easily. And then and then Hinckley's
case so would be tried on both sides by attorneys
basically strong allegiances to the Central Intelligence Agency, right because

(01:12:36):
you know one of them was in the under the
direct employee of of George Bush while he ded the
c I A. And then and then Charles Roff of
course was prosecuted the water case defenders.

Speaker 5 (01:12:48):
Do we have them?

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
And then and then the judge even was brought in
in a real in a real strange way, the judge Harrington,
Harrington Parker, he became the judge for Hinkley's trial in
a very big diversion from like how they normally do things.
The uh, you know, the Washington Posts even talked about it.
They said that Parker's name was secretly selected from a
stack of cards that bore the names of fourteen federal

(01:13:12):
judges who were available. That selection process is normally carried
out by a court clerk using a random mechanism. So yeah,
so they refer to this as a star chamber. They said,
the presiding judge of the Hinkley trial was selected in
a star chamber session, leading to a national outcry at
the decision, summed up by what one editorial writer called

(01:13:33):
one of the worst miscarriages of justice in the national history.
So it's pretty interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:13:39):
And like you said, today, Hinkley is not even in
that mental institution anymore. Right, They give him passes to
get out and walk around and do stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
He no, no, no, That's how it was for years. But
now they've they've been living him out more and more
and now he basically lives on his own and he
has to check in once a week. So he is
basically a free man. You know, he's a free man.
The therapist basically at this one.

Speaker 5 (01:14:01):
Did he ever get married or anything?

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
No, no, no, I don't believe. So you think he
like works at Starbucks or something like that, which I
don't really quite understand because the family has money. But
I think that might be part of his arrangement, that
he has like a normal routine or something like that.

Speaker 5 (01:14:17):
So John Hankley, who shot President Ronald Reagan, works at Starbucks,
of course.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
At Starbucks making machiato something like that. That's at least
the story. You know what I mean a lot of
times these people don't show up their no show jobs,
you know what I mean. But he needs to show
that he has a routine and so forth. So that's
what's on his that was on what was on his
release papers.

Speaker 5 (01:14:39):
Now was are there any indications that Reagan was aware
of who tried to have him killed or Nancy?

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
Well, he he not really because see here's what happened, right,
It's like afterwards, I think he got the message because
Reagan really, you know, he started to allow trilateral appointments.
He basically gave over a lot of the presidency to Bush.
But the tension between them, I think I think it

(01:15:10):
was even written about in a recent story about the Bushes,
the Bush Dynasty book, where they talk about how, you know,
like how much tension there was between the Bush and
the Reagan family. So he never trusted him, he never
really wanted him too close, but he did end up
having to allow him to make all his trilateral appointments.
I think he really did fear for his life. I

(01:15:32):
think after that point they proved that they could get
to him very easily, and so he gave that kind
of what that's my take on it, that I put
in the implication section of the book.

Speaker 5 (01:15:41):
Now, and what about people like al Hay How does
he fit in soul this because remember how he ran
down and says I'm in charge. You know, what do
you know about that?

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
Right? Right? So al Haig I believe was the one
who was really not so happy with the with the
Bush's rearrangement of the order of succession, right yeah, because
he uh, just trying to I'm just trying to keep

(01:16:09):
all the names straight, But yeah, I believe that he
was uh you know, he was he was a poster
but really, you know, he couldn't do anything about it,
and they did change the way the succession worked, so that,
like I said, you know, he was in control for
a little while until until Bush came you know, boss
of the plane basically, and and everything was the vice

(01:16:29):
president got to decide how to handle it and how
to pursue, you know, how to pursue the investigation, and
he basically had full control over all that, which is
really interesting because if you're the assassin, you know, I mean,
if you're the one, you know, planning the assassination, and
now you also have controlled the investigation after the fact,
kind of puts you in a good position.

Speaker 5 (01:16:48):
Where was Bush that day? When in the attempt to.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
Place where the bush? That's a that's a good question.
I'm not sure about that.

Speaker 5 (01:17:00):
Actually, why don't we know that? Isn't it wouldn't it
be like one of those things you'd know right off
the top of your head, you know, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
Like yeah, you know, yeah, Well, I mean I don't
I don't know that I would take his word on
it anyway. I mean, he, like I said he was,
he was not in Dallas, you know, the day Kennedy
was shot. He was not in Dallas until he was
in Dallas. And then you know what I mean, Like
there's multiple versions of where he was at each point,
you know.

Speaker 5 (01:17:24):
So you have here on one of the pages he
sent me was an international travel for John Hinckley. What
can you tell us about that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
For for John Hinckley? So yeah, so so John Hinckley was, uh,
like we said, through through World Vision. He you know,
he in Laos and uh, you know he was in
the refugee you know, where the refugees were supposed to
be and uh and then and then it's unclear whether

(01:17:58):
or not he Yeah, basically from Loos, Mark David Chapman
went to Lebanon where there was a civil war. Then
he becomes a key aid to the program director David Moore,
and then he's meeting with UH with Gerald Ford and
then and then he runs the refuge the Vietnamese refugee
camp over at Fort chaff In, Arkansas at the National

(01:18:18):
Guard Base, and then he basically was there until he
went to a mental war facility. Then Hinckley, Hinckley separates
from Chapman, UH from from Laos and UH then he
comes back into the States and that's when he starts
stalking UH Carter and UH and and then he ends

(01:18:39):
up in Colorado mental facility. Now what's interesting is that
there is some connection to Iron Contract that you brought
up before, because both both World Vision. World Vision has
a lot of operations in Honduras and Al Salvador. So again,
you know, if you kind of take the understanding that
the government or aspects of the governation, UH, we're you know,

(01:19:01):
we're involved in drug running as they were you know
under the CIA and or certain elements in the CIA,
and uh, you know, the you know, organizations like this
are perfect for getting assets, and so they were very
active in Honduras and no Salvador.

Speaker 5 (01:19:16):
Now, uh, the Hackley family, right, are there any indications
that after this attempt that they rose higher in power
or or perhaps you know, how to you know, uh
lay low what happened with them?

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
Right? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
So I think if they would have been successful, right,
I think that that they would have gotten lots of
favors from George Bush. But basically they were there, their
company had already been made whole, and so they kind
of went off into the sunset more. They didn't really
rise to power as much, but as you can see,
they were you know, they they planned the uh, you know,
they planned basically a victory dinner that turned into too

(01:19:56):
much media attention and so that that was really the
the end of their you know, their two main their
two main means of power, which was the Vanderbilt Energy
and World Vision. But world Vision continued to receive funding,
you know, all through the Reagan years and uh and
through through Bush's first Bush's one term as president.

Speaker 5 (01:20:17):
And what's going on with world Vision today. They still exist, Yeah,
they still exist.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
They're still an entity. They yeah, on their website even
like a lot of this information we started to get
from from their website terms of where they get their
funding and stuff like that. It's not it's not even
really hidden because that's the whole thing, right, is that
like who's gonna really has a world vision? You know
what I mean? Like, you know, who's gonna who's gonna
care about the millions that are flowing to them? Right,

(01:20:41):
it's you know, it kind of becomes a non issue.
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:20:46):
Now Neil Bush who was the one who ripped off
the savings and loans right.

Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
Right? Right? Yeah, so that that all occurred under under
under bush In's first term, and uh, yeah, I mean
they kind of they kind of play the you know,
they have the public sons and then they have the
private son, right and uh, you know, and yeah, Neil
was on the banking side, and then obviously you know
that other one was put over right before nine to eleven.

(01:21:13):
And I don't know how much you guys get into
nine to eleven on this on this show, but yeah,
that was you know, that was a major major money
making you know, those are two major money making periods
for the Bush family, you know, the savings alone and
then the uh and then what happened after nine to
eleven and uh, and so yeah, so you know Neil
Bush uh, you know, was really trying to you know,

(01:21:39):
you know, and that's the thing is that you never
see these people publicly. They're never gonna run for office,
you know what I mean. You just see the two
public sons that are you know that you know and
again George George W. Bush. You know, they presented that
he was in oil, right and you know that ran
their oil business. But again that is really that is
really more of a CIA front than anything else. They

(01:22:00):
really have not had real legitimate businesses. You know, it's
basically just been banking and these oil companies that are
that are really a front for for CIA money laundering
and the just general operations.

Speaker 5 (01:22:13):
Yeah. And at the end of a Bush Junior, but
w at the end of his presidency, he does banking
bailout quote unquote, we're basically right, we just give away
billions of dollars to to rich bankers who lost their money.
And then what's his name, Obama is a mission beat.
Oh yeah, keep giving away when he comes in.

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
Yeah. Yeah, you know that's anyone who anyone who thinks
that there's there's two separate warring parties really needs to
look at the deals that occurred during that time period. Right,
So one of the things that I was actually I
was actually new through this guy's nephew. But the the
if you look at the deal through it was the

(01:22:54):
one where basically Fiat. You know, how Chrysler ended up
in the hands of Fiat.

Speaker 5 (01:22:58):
Yeah, all the details, but what when is there some
significant but.

Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
Yeah, yea yeah, yeah, Well the significant thing is that
the Treasury secretary that was under Bush. Mind you, that
deal occurred under Omama, right, so you know, if he
if he was against you know, if he wasn't in
the same bed as them, you know, he would have
opposed this deal because the deal was basically just a
means of giving the Treasury secretaries consulting company that he formed,

(01:23:28):
basically like one hundred million dollars, right just to arrange
the government basically giving Chrysler to Fiat. Because I believe
the government even put up the money, like they loan
to see out the money in order for them to
buy Chrysler, you know what I mean. So, so this
wasn't really anything. It wasn't like foreign money was really

(01:23:48):
coming in to help help the situation. It really was
just a complete robbing of an entire car company. Also
that the Treasury secretary from one administration could you know,
you know, could pull out a hundred million dollars you
know in his consulting company arranging the deal. Well, it's

(01:24:08):
a lot of those deals went down, you know like that.
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:24:10):
Oh yeah, and even with the whole bailout to that,
you know, because a lot of those mortgages were there
was already mortgage insurance that they paid for those mortgages
and then we just bailed out the and it was
the insurance company that was run by that other by
Bush's vice president, that little kid that couldn't spell potato.
What was his name again, Dan Dan Dan? Yeah, right,
you know I remember that. It was like a little

(01:24:32):
kid when he brought it, a little kid. It looks like, well, not.

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
To get conspiratorial, but Dan Quail was a little bit
set up, you know what I mean? They you know,
they there's two ways to spell potato, and they handed
him like the unusual in the car, do you know
what I mean? But anyway, I know what.

Speaker 5 (01:24:49):
Hey, what about Quail? Did he have any CIA connections
because he went to work for ig after that, But
what does the CIA connections with them?

Speaker 3 (01:24:56):
Uh, well, okay, well gotta came mind that there's like
there's like a I think they had more intelligence connections
because like they're in the same way that there's like
a revolving door between you know, the food companies and
the food regulator, food regulations and all that. It's the
same way with the you know, uh, the military industrial complex.
How you have that revolving door of generals and all that.
In the same way when you think of banking, you

(01:25:18):
have to think intelligence. So it's the banking intelligence complex, right,
And so I don't know that he was tied to
intelligence as much as banking, but you know, it's kind
of all one continuous thing, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:25:29):
Yeah, well yeah, because when he came and went out,
he's a big shot now. But I think it's diang right.
One of the insurance companies are something mortgage insurances he controls.
And they made that deal on course, you know, they
made that whole deal to bail out those banks on
the golf course, you know, right, well playing golf with

(01:25:50):
these characters.

Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
But it looks like a well, well, I mean, you know,
I don't I don't buy that the deal. I believe
that that was kind of the plan all along, you
know what I'm saying, Like, it wasn't like a thing
that sprung up because they had overextended themselves. It was
just a plan from the beginning. And what's interesting too
is that most people think of the bailout as being
like a nine hundred billion dollar thing, right, But again,

(01:26:13):
the tarp is even separate from what they gave to AIG,
right becausember AIG was basically the IAIG basically really didn't
receive very much money they because they received a ton
of money that just flowed directly to Goldman Sachs. I mean,
that's why AIG was bailed out and Lehman Brothers was

(01:26:35):
not because of who was their client. AIG's client was
Goldman Sacks. You know, Lehman Brothers client was like lower
level rich people, you know what I'm saying that didn't
you know that weren't higher up on the high enough
up on the food chain. And so so there was
the tart money, there was the money going to AIG.
And then on top of that, which everyone kind of misses,
is through the Federal Reserve operations, it was like something

(01:26:58):
along the lines of like twenty trillion dollars that was
lend lends to them something along those lines, and its
just an enormous sum and most of it's still sitting
sitting with them. That hasn't really flowed into the economy,
and a lot of it has been lent back to
the government all through the rest of the Obama years,
and I assume it's still going on now. So yeah,

(01:27:19):
so it's really it was really just an enormous amount
of wealth that was shifted around, right, And.

Speaker 5 (01:27:26):
In order to create that that crisis, the housing crisis
as well, they first had to change the bankruptcy laws,
you know, to further squeeze people they couldn't pay their mortgage.
You're right, the whole thing was created from the start,
and there was a manipulation too with them interest rate.

Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
Right right, right, Yeah, I mean the yeah, I mean,
if you're gonna have central banking, you're going to have
this type of thing. But this is obviously amplified to
such a degree. And I mean the reason I said
is because if you if you don't have you know,
if you don't have a free market interest rate, right,
that means you you really cannot arrange capital, you know
what I mean, Like, you know, the market's not functioning

(01:28:04):
at all. So the market is just guessing at whether
or not they should build long term projects or whether
they should only focus on short term projects. There's no
coordination with the interest rates, so you're going to have this.
But this was it didn't need to be as large
as it was, and those entities did not need to
be bailed out. I mean they could have just you know,
think about it, if Goldman Sax went under. You know,

(01:28:26):
they made it like every we wouldn't be able to
get money out of the ATMs because you know, because
one investment banker went bankrupt. You know, it was really absurd,
you know.

Speaker 5 (01:28:35):
Yeah, the story so that they would tell in Congress
that there was going to be martial law, the would
be riots in the streets, some kind of stuff in
order to terrify these naive congressman. I would be so
fascinated to know what you do for a living in stuff,
you know, what your background is. Now. I used my
real name, you know, and everyone knows me, you know, like,

(01:28:57):
but you use a certain name, but then you old me.
I got your phone or gam I can find out
who you are, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm fine with you knowing about it.
I just don't like to make it to the public.
So mean, we could definitely talk about that privately, but yeah,
I I my my uh, my current business requires that
I am not associated with this, so I mean that
will probably change in the future, but okay, at least
the next year, until until cryptocurrency retires me later this year.
You know, I'll need to keep it like that.

Speaker 5 (01:29:25):
Maybe you could advise me on that, because I can't
even set up on account. I tried to. I couldn't
even get it. I tried one of those bitcoin companies,
I forget which one, and I can't get verified my
phone number. They won't they won't verify me, right, right,
do you even get started?

Speaker 3 (01:29:39):
Oh? Yeah, and then you got to make sure you're
with a bank that that it won't close your accounts,
because I've heard of that happening where accounts will Yeah,
accounts will be closed just because you made a connection
with something with cryptocurrency, and yeah, that's all. That's another
thing too, because you know, the banks are really definitely afraid.
I don't know if you follow what like Jamie Well
in the cryptocurrency world, that Jamie demon but I believe

(01:30:01):
his name is Jamie uh Damon or Diamond or something
like that. You know, basically the head of the head
of the chase basically, yeah, the head of Chase comes
out and he says, oh, you know, bitcoin is a
is a scam, it's a Ponzi scheme and all this
kind of business.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:30:17):
Then the price of bitcoin tanks. Then it comes out
that he is that his investment banking wing or whatever
is is has clients where they're buying them up cryptocurrency assets.
You know what I mean. J JP Morgan is basically
you know, buying up cryptocurrency assets so.

Speaker 5 (01:30:35):
Manipulate making the down cheap.

Speaker 3 (01:30:39):
Yeah, exactly, exactly, So you know, he was basically getting
getting a sale for his clients, and I'm sure that
some of their own money, but but yeah, that's that's
some pretty dirty stuff. So he's usually referred to as
Jamie Demon and the cryptocurrency circles.

Speaker 5 (01:30:54):
And you're actually making money on it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
M h.

Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
Yeah. Like this whole this whole crash has been really
good for people that like know what they're doing, you
know what I mean, because you know, there was just
a ton of opportunity and like there's there's there's you know,
like one of the coolest things about cryptcrency is just
the new projects that are able to get attention and
you know, quickly get funding without having to go through
all the you know, the SEC regulations and things like that.

(01:31:21):
So there's a lot of there's a lot of growth still,
smaller companies, smaller coins and things like that. And yeah,
I mean it's it's been working out pretty well. I
make more from it than my my regular my regular
profession so to speak.

Speaker 5 (01:31:35):
Okay, great, let me ask you a question back to
the Hackley thing with the Nelson Rockefeller. What became of
him after all of this? If his gambit there failed?
What went wrong with his career after for this?

Speaker 3 (01:31:48):
Right? Right? So, yeah, we see theer in the elective office.
There's just they do have one senator. So I think
that's what they kind of do, is the the family
members that aren't great at the back room dealing, they'll
put you know, they want from I think Western or something.
You know, they have have one senator over you. He

(01:32:09):
was dying them, maybe we shouldn't. Yeah, Like he was
regretting that there was the Internet because you couldn't control
the information as easily, you know. And I don't know
if he's not hearing or whatever, but yeah he was.
He was lamenting the fact that the Internet exists and
and so yeah, so the other the rest of the family.

(01:32:30):
What they do is they set up organizations to have
power from from from behind the scenes. And really, if
you put ego aside, it really is more effective to have
power behind the scenes. It's just it's there's nothing like
having the absolute power of being the actual president. But
they eventually gave that up and chose to rule from behind.

(01:32:51):
So if you see the operations of of UH, of
the Rockefeller David Rockefeller, right the you see that he
has huns and hundreds of organizations. I can't believe how
much attention the Koch brothers get for the little bits
of money that they give compared to what the Rockefellers
are up to, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:33:10):
And because he just died recently. But David Rockefeller just died,
right right, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:33:17):
He just passed. But while he was alive, he he
had the you know, the Association of an American UH
Cooperation or something. You know, he had like hundreds of
these very innocuous sounding organizations that were meant to basically
integrate the you know, the economies of Latin America with
the United States under not a free trade but like

(01:33:38):
under you know there, that's the all thing is that,
you know, the whole NAFTA thing and the whole the
whole I think misunderstanding with the free trade stuff is
that there's nothing free about the trade. If if you
had free trade in North America, you could you could
write that bill on a one piece of paper, right,
We're not gonna have any tariffs or duties that for
any trading in North America, you know what I mean.

(01:34:01):
But instead they're like, you know, they require volumes and
volumes of of of of legal eese to go through
because they're really creating what is really managed trade, you know,
where they have their special interests halls set up to
benefit from the way it's set up.

Speaker 5 (01:34:17):
Yeah, when I was a kid coming up, it was
David Rockefellero was the one you would point to all
the time. Like now they point to Soros only going
diferentind stuff like that, But it was Rockefeller when you
would always point to David Rockefeller and his power. And
one of the reasons why is because I can I
can remember, like it was yesterday, I was watching a
Jimmy Carter news conference and they asked, well, why did

(01:34:39):
you let the shop I ran come into the country
And he says, well, well, David Rockefeller told me the
pretty much came right, I said, David Rockefell told me too,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:34:51):
Ye yeah, well yeah, And then the Harry Clinton speech
where she was saying how good it was about how
the uh, not the Trilateral Commission, but the other one,
the on Relations right, about how CFR had moved their
offices close to the State Department, and she said, oh,
it's really convenient because now we can come here more
easily to get our marching orders. Oh really, yep, there's

(01:35:13):
a speech where she talks about her getting her marching
orders from the Council for Our Relations. That's no joke, yep, absolutely,
And yeah, so well you.

Speaker 5 (01:35:24):
See, by the way, she was involved in Watergate too.
She goes back to Watergate and you see pictures of
when she's really young with Henry Kissinger where she's like
right out of college and she's hanging out with Henry Kissinger.
So and by the way, well, I mean, but don't
they have Christmas together every year at the Henry Kissinger
and the Clintons.

Speaker 3 (01:35:44):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's right. And then the the
the Bushes also like the Bushes and the Clinton's vacation together,
you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, I mean obviously
you know the Bushes were against Trump this whole past
election cycle.

Speaker 5 (01:35:57):
Well a CIA, right, first we Bush, then Clinton was
running a coke for the CIA out of me in Arkansas,
and then even Obama Bush Junior obviously, and then even
Obama went to work for the CIA right out of college.
You have a business international.

Speaker 3 (01:36:12):
Right, his first job was with Henry Kissing Cherch for Obama.
And that that that's a whole other that's a whole
other thing. And what's interesting too is like the I
don't know if you know what what Bushes, but uh,
Bill Clinton's first official job was out of law school,
like on record that he admits to. His first job

(01:36:33):
was Attorney General of Arkansas, right, because what they did
is they basically made they he basically ran unopposed, you
know what I mean. He was given the Democrat nomination
for it, and they got the Republicans not to run
or something like that, and and he was basically just
granted the position just straight. That's his first job you

(01:36:53):
get to get a law degree and you're the attorney
general of Arkansas. And then based on that, you know,
he was fashion tracked into the governorship. So I mean
they were working on him from the beginning, you know.
They they talk about him being in Russia for two years,
and they try to make it like it was a
Communist thing, but really it was just uh intelligence operations, right,
he was just an intelligence operative that they that they

(01:37:15):
pulled in. William Jefferson Clinton isn't even his name, like
he was. It's amazing how many of the presidents are
born with totally different names than we know them as
you know, so I forget what his birth name is,
but like, Clinton is a name he that's not his
father's name, you know, that's just a name he assumed
one of one of the one of his mother's men
was was named Clinton. And and so yes, anyway, he

(01:37:37):
was a CIA asset, and and he was in Russia
for they say Russia for two years, but I think
I think he may not not even been in Russia.
It was just a very easy way to put it
into the left right paradigm, you know what I mean,
where it's like, oh okay, yeah, he's a commedy, you know,
so you know, you know that kind of thing, and
so you know, then it could be hash out on
that front rather than on a conspiratorial front. And so

(01:38:00):
uh so yeah, but then he comes back in the
attorney general and then uh and then you know, uh
becomes governor. And you know, it's funny because in primary
colors they make it like it was a nail bier
in getting the nomination, but if you look at the
electoral map, I mean, it was a total obliteration. They
they moved aside, they pushed everybody else aside, and uh,

(01:38:20):
you know, annointed him and you know, selected him for
that position.

Speaker 5 (01:38:24):
Fascinating by the way, too, Uh Obama was involved in
that little house, that tiny house steel in Haiti, that
the whole Clinton Foundation stole that money. Obama was involved
in it when he was a senator. He was involved
in that deal. Okay before wow, yea, you can just
go off forever. But now, but back to this whole
Bush Hinkley and stuff like that, because we'll have you

(01:38:45):
back and we'll get into those of this stuff. Nelson
Rocke fall, what about his death in New York? What
do you know about that? Because that was bizarre too.

Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
Oh bizarre. How what do you mean?

Speaker 5 (01:38:55):
Well, because they moved his body first. They said he
was in his office and he was having an affair
and all kind of stuff like that was in the
and the the medical examiner was one of these shady
guys too, in a Gucci and Nagacci, one of these guys.
You know, did you look into that at all?

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:39:10):
Yeah, I mean, I mean I think that's just controlling
the messaging. I don't think that, like, I don't think
he was killed like the like Scalia was he remember
Scalia and he died under real Uh. He was basically
at like a like a lodge. You know, he's at
one of these you know, I don't know what you
want to call him, not a cult lodges, but you
know what I mean, Yeah, you know where they have

(01:39:30):
like a yeah, like a masonry type of hunting. You
know that was mainly used for hunting and all that
and you know, so so yeah, But I mean, I
don't think anyone's knocking off the Rockefellers, that's what you're
going with. But I'm sure, I'm sure he died in
some unsavory fashion that they just wanted to control the
messaging going.

Speaker 5 (01:39:48):
Okay, let's see.

Speaker 3 (01:39:51):
I know and all looking at this, I've never seen
I never seen the Rock like any of the rock
Feller family get taken out.

Speaker 5 (01:40:00):
How do you We've had this dynasty, CIA dynasty started
from Bush, Clinton Obama. What do you make a Trump then?

Speaker 3 (01:40:10):
Right? Well, yeah, I mean, I I think it's fairly
safe to say that they really did not want him
to become versident. I mean, they really pulled out all
the stops, you know what I mean to make that
not happen. But again, I think this comes into the
fact that you know, sometimes when you fir see in
the world and you're you start to chart all the incredible,

(01:40:32):
like evil things that they've been able to accomplish, you know,
you start to think that they're all powerful, but they're
really not. And I think that this was one of
those things where the they just pushed it too far.
They thought, you know, they they started to believe their
own propaganda that they were all powerful and uh and
got pushed back, you know what I mean. Now, at
the same token, I don't I don't know if they're

(01:40:54):
going to assassinate him or not. You know, it's like
it's It's not like Reagan, right where Reagan was just
a personality, you know what I mean. In this case,
there's very specific policy that tied to the brand of Trump.
So if they kill him, it's very easy to solidify
that into you know, into martyrdom, you know what I mean.
So I mean it's hard to imagine him living out

(01:41:17):
two terms because but I mean, but then again, he
does play ball to a degree, to a very large degree,
and they're making a ton of money. I mean, just
from the economy, you know, from from all the optimism
of all the of everyone right now, you know what
I'm saying, the you know, the the growth that we're
seeing in some of this. I mean, it's it's one
of those things where they do want to control every
aspect of it, but they also benefit from when there's

(01:41:40):
when people get a breath, you know what I mean,
when people are allowed to breathe, like with the internet
or or today with cryptocurrency. You know, when they allow
a certain area to just be unregulated and let people
do the thing. You know, there is an enormous amount
of wealth that gets generated from that, and then they
can then they can try and tax it. So I
don't really think that the whole op position to Trump

(01:42:00):
was a charade. I think that goes a little too
far in the conspiracy spectrum. I don't know what's your
take on that.

Speaker 5 (01:42:06):
Well, if you look, he surrounded himself by Goldman Sachs, right,
Wolver Ross was out of the rough chow right, and
then he got excellent mobile run in the Foreign policy.
You know, it seems like he's the same characters he's
gotten Henry kissing just sitting in the Oval office there
more than once. Uh, the same thing he's meet with
the Russians.

Speaker 3 (01:42:29):
Yeah, like I said, I mean, he's not gonna he's
not gonna end the FED so to speak, you know what,
sing like, that's certainly not gonna happen. And you know, uh,
it's you know, you know what if if there's a
wall at the end of it all, Like if there
actually is a wall and there's a you know, before
his before his next term, I think he will get reelected.
And uh, it's gonna be hard to kind of you

(01:42:52):
know obviously, Yeah, he is. He is playing both all
those all those actors, I mean, all those actors too,
can can tank the economy on him. So you know
what I mean, it's I it's it's really hard. I
think the jury is still kind of out a little
bit on uh on on the Trump front, you know
what I mean. But you know, they certainly don't like him,

(01:43:14):
but they but he certainly he certainly is playing ball
to a large degree, like you said, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:43:19):
Yeah, I don't see him as any kind of a
hero kind of help right right right, especially when he
comes he goes a whacked iron contract too, because he
was buddies with Koshot. You know, it's oh.

Speaker 3 (01:43:32):
Yeah, yeah, Well what's interesting about his brand And that's
the reason why I think he was like hard to
take down was just simply that, you know, he kind
of was just real up front, like hey, I basically
like he basically came rat Like I've been bribing politicians
for decades, right, you know what I mean, Like and
I know how it works, like so like how do
you how do you come out with a scandal with
someone when they start off with you know, I've been
bribing you know, presidents and congressman my whole.

Speaker 5 (01:43:55):
Life, you know what I mean, Like yeah, and seven
divorces whatever, and porn stars sat and porn stars and
stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:44:01):
You know, right, right, right, right, So, I mean I
I think there's a certain aspect to it, like where
you know, it's like, uh, you know, I like, I
don't know what. I don't know how like how far
would a president have to take it before you know,
you know where you know, before we would think that

(01:44:24):
he's not a total shill, you know what I'm saying.
Like it's a little bit it's kind of a hard
problem to solve, you know what I mean, that's just mentally.
I mean, if you could picture what would be you know,
what would be that standard sort of speak, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:44:36):
Yeah, I do know what you mean. I don't know
what you mean. But whatever, we're living in the chaotic
times I think we've ever had in the history of
this country, even Watergate, which I'd lived through and I
ran continent and what stuff. Just it seems like just.

Speaker 3 (01:44:49):
Yeah, I mean, and they're trying with him, I mean,
every every every different angle they're trying to they're trying
to do a Watergate type situation. Well, and that's the
thing after I said, too, right, is that Nixon was
not a great guy, right, Like, you know, none of
these people are great people. You're saying like, I wouldn't
trust my kids with any of these people, you know
what I'm saying. But but they are warring interests, you

(01:45:10):
know what I mean? And the I I think that
the the the interplay between uh, between Nixon and uh
the Rockefellers where they were cooperating but also at burial
is a very real thing. And I think that's what's
playing out right now.

Speaker 5 (01:45:28):
Right very interesting. Uh, I'm gonna hit you with a
total left field. Did you look into Pizzagate?

Speaker 3 (01:45:36):
Yes, absolutely, mean I was gonna bring it up because
when you brought up Haiti, right, because you know, the
the uh Hillary Clinton had. You know, there's all these
emails that came out, and it's the thing that they
did not deny the validity of any of the emails,
right they when they were all coming out. And there's
a reason for that, right, Like you know, the people
that actually know the h key thing, like they can

(01:45:58):
establish that that they're real, and so instead they kind
of claim, oh, they're being used for political purposes. Well
of course it used for political persons auticians, you know.
But but anyway, it came out that she was actively
campaigning for the release of a child trafficker in Haiti.
So there's a woman because the reason the Clayton Foundation

(01:46:20):
deals in countries where there are not really certificates, where
you know, where they don't really have that type of documentation,
so it's not expected when they bring people that they'll
have documentation, right, And and so they she had a
child trafficker that she got basically released from jail in
Haiti who was arrested for child trafficking for you know,

(01:46:41):
picking up picking up underage kids and you know, yeah,
bringing them.

Speaker 5 (01:46:45):
Called orphans, but they had parents, they had families. And
then her attorney as well had a conviction for a
child less station and that that woman. I forget the
woman's name, but yeah, it's it's amazing what they're doing
down in Haiti. They're just cleaning that place out.

Speaker 3 (01:47:00):
Yeah, and I mean, yeah, you say they have parents,
but there's no documents. That's why they pick those countries.

Speaker 5 (01:47:04):
Right, right. Yeah. I did a whole thing on on
foreign adoptions too. Oh my god, when the kids get
to this country too. Oh yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (01:47:11):
Think about it too, the Russians Putin. Putin knows what's
going on too, right, because why do you think that
he he doesn't allow American adoption partially because of the
in my opinion, like that's of course speculation, but you
know the I I think it has something to do
with the fact that the cal trafficking is such a
huge topic, and I think that the Okay, so I
think pedalgate is more of a real thing than Pizzagate itself.

(01:47:34):
Like that pizza gate thing may have been said up
just as a red herring, right, so just as like
a hey, let's let's create something that's that that that
looks as least sinister as possible, but still being strange,
you know what I'm saying, Like having a pizza parlor
is a non threatening kind of thing, you know. I mean,
pizza parlers are very like disarming locations when you think

(01:47:55):
about them. And so they send someone in there with
a gun and stuff like that. I believe it I
was a false flag in and of itself where they
send someone in there to delegitimize the whole, uh, the
whole subject, because you know how someone went in there
and said, oh, show me where the kids are captain
that kind of thing. That didn't really sound like someone
that would be a listener to your show. You know what,
I mean like when I when I heard the things

(01:48:15):
he was saying, it sounds like someone who is a plant,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:48:18):
Yeah, but this guy's on four Chan and stuff like that.
That are that are out there like that? Anyways? What
about Q and on? You believe in this Q and
on stuff? You know what I'm saying? Oh, okay, you
every familiar would thank God for that.

Speaker 3 (01:48:30):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:48:30):
It's just it's it's an obviously role playing nonsense. This
guy claims to have a Q level of security clearance
and he's releasing all these clues and nonsense, and there's
thousands of there's thousands of people that believe that, and
one of those guys, and they're all talking about their
guns and their patriots and they're all gonna resist unless
you know, they're all saying that.

Speaker 3 (01:48:48):
Yeah, yeah right.

Speaker 5 (01:48:49):
It's terrifying.

Speaker 3 (01:48:50):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:48:50):
You know, I'm a little worried about what. I'm a
little there's a lot of agitation going on here, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:48:56):
Uh yeah, And when you start talking about like four
Chan and stuff, He's it's hard to under it's hard
to see what's real and what's them just trolling? Right,
Because I mean, I don't know if you've seen the
whole like, you know, how they you know how like
they've turned milk into like a symbol of you know,
like you know where, like they got liberals to say

(01:49:17):
that milk was a symbol of white power. And because
you know, whites are the least lactose intolerant, you know,
like whites can handle lactose more than the other races,
you know. Yeah, and so they said, oh, it's a
symbol of white power. But that was all started from
four Chan guys trolling them and being like, hey, I
bet we can get them to say that that that's
the case. Then they also started to circulate the okay sign.

(01:49:38):
You know, when you say okay to somebody, they're saying
that like the upfingers are w and then the circle
is P for power, you know. And and so then
when they then when like Trump's kids would have an
okay sign, everyone would say, oh, look he's giving a
dog whistle to white nationalists.

Speaker 5 (01:49:56):
Yeah, there's so much disinfo out there, using things, you know,
and and dredge out problems and confusion and agitating people.

Speaker 3 (01:50:06):
Yeah, we're we're intelligent.

Speaker 5 (01:50:09):
Yeah right right right, Yeah, I could tell you some
stuff firsthand and people trying to insert things into me
in my life and this show and stuff. You know,
oh really, oh forget it anyway, man, man, So what
definitely happened.

Speaker 3 (01:50:26):
Ye, Well, that's one thing I'll to say is that like, yeah,
you'd be you'd be surprised how many low level actors
are in all this, right.

Speaker 7 (01:50:34):
So it's like if you're not like you know, on
Fox News or whatever, like there's you know, they they
got it down to the level where they have correct
the record, if you're the CC article where you know
they'll they'll even go on Best Sports and because you know,
they'll have these spots that put out their message.

Speaker 3 (01:50:53):
So I mean they'll get down too.

Speaker 5 (01:50:56):
Yeah you know, something happened with your phone? Did you
move it or something that it's got no weird there
you go. I'm that's better now. Yeah, yeah, correct the record,
isn't it. They're connected with Brock right, and Brock was
dating Aliphontas at Pizzagate.

Speaker 3 (01:51:11):
Yeah, I think correct. The record started around the Clintons
and then got used kind of for for just general
Democrat operations.

Speaker 5 (01:51:19):
Yeah. So there's there's one theory that Aliphontas could be
a CIA operation. That's why he's not getting busted because
you can't say there's no smoke there because you know,
I know you laugh about the infidelity investigation, but I
took a lot of criminal investigations as criminal defense, and
also child custody and family court stuff. And if I

(01:51:43):
could investigate someone and find that stuff on his Instagram stuff,
the tying kids down, holding babies, talking about chicken lover
all all that kind of stuff, he would lose custody
of his kids in any court in his country unless
he totally had everybody paid off. So you can't say
there's no sat Yeah, it is crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:52:03):
Yeah, I mean so, I mean so, I I think
that guy absolutely protected me.

Speaker 7 (01:52:07):
But the question is whether he was never in the
sigal part of any kind of child traffickings or not.

Speaker 3 (01:52:12):
And I think it kind of doesn't matter because the
child trafficking's going on, and so he was either used,
you know, he was either used as the.

Speaker 5 (01:52:20):
Yeah, your phone, Harry, your phone screwing up again? Oh sorry,
that's ok. What are you doing with the phone putting
in your pocket or something.

Speaker 3 (01:52:28):
I'm not I'm not changing anything. It must be just.

Speaker 5 (01:52:31):
Okay now outam, because you only got a few minutes
left out of all your other books, give us an
idea of the other books you've written in what they're about,
because you got about three.

Speaker 3 (01:52:38):
Minutes left, sure, for sure. So when prosecutor's attack is
basically that was done during the Zimmerman trial. So there's
a bit in there about the Zimmerman But it's my
main passion that brought me into this field was the O. J.
Simpson trial. So that's all about how there were multiple
government confidential informants around that case, uh, and the drug
running there. Then there's the the uh, the Oregon shooting

(01:53:03):
just another CIA, uh false flag, and that's all about
that shooting and about how you know, fake blood was
employed and how that may have not been a real
shooting sort of thing. And so we go, we go
and address that topic. Then we have some funner books.
There's there's a book twenty five things women Can't Do
but we pretend they can. But that's that's really just

(01:53:25):
kind of about like some of the m RA issues
and stuff like that, where you know, there's so much
focus on the wage gap, but not the desk gap,
you know what I mean? And there they are related.
You know, ninety three percent of workplace deaths for men,
and you know, kind of goes through some of those
m RA issues.

Speaker 5 (01:53:40):
I'm not familiar with the Oregon shooting at all. What
is that about?

Speaker 3 (01:53:45):
Yeah, well, uh yeah, take a look at take a
look at the book. Basically, there's just a lot of
strange things that happened. They replaced the leadership, They retired
one of the heads of that university before the shooting,
and uh, and he he hadn't talked about he had
talked about the Sandy Hook shooting, and so I think
they got him out of the way, and you know,

(01:54:06):
certain things like that.

Speaker 5 (01:54:07):
Okay, Uh, thank you so much, Niles Mercado. The book
we talked about today was Bush Killing Reagan, the Bush
Hinkley conspiracy bill O'Reilly won't tell about. Now do you
have a website or anyth when people get a hold
of you?

Speaker 6 (01:54:20):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:54:21):
Yeah, on Twitter, at corruption show, at a corruption show.

Speaker 5 (01:54:25):
Okay, so twice that radio show too. Oh you do
really I did?

Speaker 3 (01:54:29):
I used to used to.

Speaker 5 (01:54:30):
Okay, are you interested in doing another one?

Speaker 3 (01:54:34):
Yeah, we'll see, we'll talk.

Speaker 5 (01:54:35):
Okay, good, Yeah, well, we'll definitely keep in touch. Thanks
Niles Mercado, Thank you so much. My pleasure, goodnight. Okay.
Then we had Nace Maccardo. You can find his book
on the Opperamanport Bookstore, Bush Killing Reagan, The Bush Innkley
Conspiracy bill O'Reilly won't tell about. Uh, you can find
his This really good pdf he sent me, has colored
pictures and stuff like that. You get that real quick.

(01:54:56):
And that is a six figure team front slash Reagan.
And they'll email you a link where you could download
this stuff and print it out, even colored copies of
that's in the book. I've you enjoyed the show. Check
out Oppermanreport dot com. We just uploaded a brand new
secret Lost episode. I had a guest on. He didn't
want me to play the show, so bit the we're

(01:55:18):
putting it in the armor section secretly when on advertising
what the show is about. You can get it there
and Oppermanreport dot com. Okay, there you go. Oh boy,
really enjoyed this guy, really enjoyed our guests. And now
it's mcconnie. You never know what you're gonna get because

(01:55:39):
I was a little worried about it was false flag stuff.
But then this is some good solid work. And I
checked him out a little bit while we were because
I do have his phone over, have his email, and
I looked him up and he seems to be a
pretty legit guy, has a lot of different businesses and
things going on here. So we'll talk to him a
little bit more off the air. I didn't want to

(01:56:01):
throw him a left curve curve ball there, and I
hate doing that, especially when we're talking about Chatman Mark
David Chapman. You know, I hate to bring up the
fact that I met Mark David Chapman at the weekend
of the assassination because then people say, oh, they're not
ready for that, and the guys a guess he comes
on show to about Hankley and Chapman and all this
kind of stuff like that, and he's not ready to hear.

(01:56:22):
You know. I don't want to take over the interview either,
But I firmly believe that there were two Chapmans, and
there was so and I believe there's a much more
occult connection too in the John Lennon assassination. If you
go back in my archives on YouTube and look for
the show I did with Rod Harrell. Might have been feral,
isn't it. But there's just so much there with the

(01:56:46):
there was a Cia agent was working as the doorman there,
you know, Pedermo, Jose Pedermo. There were two cops right
around the corner when the colt came into the shooting,
but when they got to the scene of the crime,
there was already cops there. There was a photographer there
who his dream was to become a what do you

(01:57:08):
call it? A police officer. He's working as a security
guard and he was taking pictures of you that that
famous picture, you know, took that famous picture, and then
he became a photographer after that. He didn't go into
the law enforcement in staying security, went to photography because
quote unquote, people like the beach Boys wanted me to
come down and take their picture. After he took a
picture of right before Lenin got murdered. There's a lot

(01:57:30):
of strange, bizarre stuff and all that tool Chapman Lenin murder.
But once again our guest today was Bush killing Reagan,
the Bush Innkley conspiracy Bill O'Reilly want to talk about
Niles Mercado and a new content up at Opperman Reports

(01:57:50):
dot com. You can check out I'm interviewing tomorrow. We're
doing a show about Well I got Mark Ebner. I'm
gonna be interviewing later on today, and he's written some
incredible book, Six Degrees of Paris Hilton. We're gonna be
talking about David Blaine and the sexual allegations against him.

(01:58:13):
We're gonna be talking about Harvey Weinstein and all this
stuff going on in Hollywood, this Me Too stuff, and
Kevin Spacey. I think we might even get into a
little bit of Trump stuff there too as well. Uh. Anyway,
So that's a at Opermanreport dot com. If you want

(01:58:34):
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operaman Report at gmail dot com. We'll be adding some
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So when you want to lock in those cheap rates, now,
this is the time to do it. So that's about it,
Thank you so much. Uh, tune in next week. I

(01:58:56):
got a show coming up about the Falcon and the Snowman.
I got Gretchen Bonaducci, the wife of Danny Bonaducci. She's
coming on the show. As one more I got coming
up a week after that. I forget what it is
right now, I don't think I can remember, but we've
got some good stuff coming up on

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