Casey Gane Returns - December 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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(00:23):
We have a returning guest here, mister Casey Gain. This
guy's been here a million times now, more times than
we can even count. And he's written that book, CIA's
Secret Warren Jamaica. Excellent book. I got great reviews to
check it out. As a matter of fact, I wrote
a review about myself on there. Good old Casey Gain.
He's back to talk to us. He had a friend
Brian Walsh, who shot his wife and he has a

(00:44):
theory about that. And he also is talking about some
DEA agent and Bob Sence. He's got some info about
that stuff. That. Plus we'll be talking about his new
AI project. He's even people might remember him from next
Gen envy Gen, but now he's got a new project.
As AI technology is increasing, but not no dust growing

(01:05):
on mister Casey Gain, Mister Casey Gaine mcgala, are you
there sir.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I'm here at what's going on? Man?

Speaker 1 (01:14):
I'm good, I'm good, man. I read my interest getting
so long. It's a rambling like an old man. But
Casey for the audience, anybody who's new and they just
showed up and fellow came out of crawled off from
under a rock. Tell him who is Casey Gain.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Well, Casey Gain Mkaala is a journalist, an author, YouTuber
of a pop culture critic, someone who really studies like
the deep state and the real news, not the fake propaganda. Yeah,
you know, I've been a filmmaker, I've been I'm an
AI content creator and you know, right now I'm kind

(01:53):
of back to doing I think I'm doing daily news videos.
So before I had a series called Reality Theory, which
also ran on and Opperman Speaker channel, and that was
like a lot of research, a lot of deep dives
into things, and so I think now I'll be doing
a lot of reacting to what's going on in the
news because the news get really interesting to me. So

(02:13):
definitely check out my YouTube channel Casey Gain for daily
news updates on Israel, Epstein, the d EA, the CIA,
hip Hop, Candice Own, Charlie kirk All, the crazy stuff
that's going on in the podcast fair So yeah, man, definitely,
everyone stay tuned and subscribe to my YouTube channel for
daily news content. And also, you know, I'm still gonna

(02:35):
be doing my historical deep dives, and I'll be doing
a lot of commenting on the Brian Ross case which
you brought up. Now, Brian wassh didn't shoot his wife,
as you said, we don't know what happened to his
wife because her body kind of magically disappeared and they
can't they can't find the body, and so recently, like
so I did, let me.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
For a second because Casey, Now, these YouTube videos you're
doing now is like short like tiktoks. Do you have
a TikTok channel too?

Speaker 2 (03:04):
I do have a TikTok and I believe that's Casey
game too. So I am doing like minute short videos,
and I'm also going to be doing like fifteen minute
in between a deep dive and a short video for
daily news updates, and then I'll you know, try and
summarize them and put those little summaries on YouTube, short
TikTok and Instagram meals and then drive that to the
kind of deeper dives that I'll be doing on the

(03:24):
YouTube channel, which will probably be like fifty maybe two
fifteen to twenty minute videos a day. But you know,
sometimes it's research gets crazy ad like. Sometimes like I'll
be thinking it will be like a quick, simple story,
so I try to find out about these people, and
next thing you know, I'm talking about the October Surprise
in nineteen eighty Muhammad Aldi, I Ran Contra And going
back to all these things I study before, because one

(03:45):
thing that you and I both know and is that
the news is very much connected to history, and so
in order to really know what's going on today, you
have to have a good idea of what's happening in
the past. And you have to know about the jfk assassination.
You have to know about I Ran contract. To even
understand that Epstein Israel, you really have to understand the

(04:05):
CI's relationship with Israel. The CI's relationship with Nazi Germany
before Israel, which allowed Massad people to blackmail the CIA
people about exposing their ties to the Nazis, has kind
of cemented the relationship between James Jesus Angleton and the Massade.
So yeah, so definitely real news that you can use

(04:27):
from a really well studied historical perspective that isn't the
same BS headlines that everyone else is riding in the
same divide and concer left and right kind of now
that that other people are pushing. So you're gonna have
some really good news coming in now to the midterms,
thee election. Hopefully I'll be able to keep it up.
And then yeah, I have a new book soon which
I really can't wait to share with people. And there's

(04:48):
gonna be so much amazing stuff. I talked to that
and I can't wait till it's going to be groundbreaking.
It's gonna change the world, change a lot of narratives
and shut down a lot of media propaganda about the CIA,
hip hop, FBI, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Hey, what do you make of this P Diddy stuff?
Did we ever talk about that? Probably not, because I
was really sick when that was going on.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
But no, no, no, no, I don't want to tell
people about it yet. I don't want to tell people
about it. I asked you questions. We've talked off the record,
off the record, Okay, I'll talk to you off the
record again, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, okay. And by the way, too, you mentioned the
October Surprise, had Craig Unger on about his book Denti
Spies and hugely popular book. Everybody who's purchased that book
Dannis Spies by Craig Anger about the October Surprise it
just came out, has gotten back to me and talked
about what a great book it is. And a great
interview too with Kevin Unger. Always has good stuff and people.

(05:49):
Everyone you know, is affected by the art. If you
were alive back then and you watched Jimmy Carter walking,
you know, to give up his presidency over to Reagan
and they were asking what about the hostages and he
was like, well, we don't know yet, and it was
just such a sad moment. It was so obvious that
the whole thing was rigged, and it's just I guess
it affected everybody because got a great response to that

(06:11):
show about Craig Hunger about the October Spread. So that's
definitely a good topic. What do you what do you
what do you have? Let's let's let's tackle at first.
That's that story about this DA agent you would tell
me about.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, so they're adagent by the name of Paul Campbo.
Were a very high level DEA and he was arrested
for conspiring to commit narco terrorism. And it's really interesting
what happened is that everyone's talking about the the DEA agent,
but there's also a CIA agent who was arrested too,
but no one's really mentioning him. So the d agent

(06:46):
was Paul Campbo, and Paul Campbo was the Well, we
had a very high role up in the DEA and
these guys were kind of entrapped. These guys were entrapped
by Ada again posing as agents or people from the CG,
C J I N cartel, and they got them to

(07:11):
help them launder money with crypt and the Crypto Cuncy.
They got them to agree to provide them with drones
for bombs. They agreed to help them like process the fentannel.
So unlike a lot of other cases when we really
see the c I A and d A e A
really working with cartels like Fast and Furious obviously ven

(07:31):
As Windows years ago, Iran Contra, this was actually a
sting that the DEA AID was doing, which I'm thinking
that these people knew are dirty, these guys, Paul Campo
and Bob Sensey, Paul Campo being the DEA agent who
I believe was also kind of c I A. He was.
He was overseas and like Milan and Africa, Africa, working

(07:53):
for the DA out of the American embassy. And I
know the CIA usually places people in the embassy and
they you know, they sheep their people A yeah, yeah, yeah.
But he was around from the Bush era, Obama era
into the Trump era. Then he retired and then I guess,
you know, then he starts laundering money for cartels. Because
I came this was like the first time that that

(08:15):
he was laundering money. But he wasn't conspiring with the
cz I N cartel. He was conspiring with the confidential
informant who was pretending to be a member of the
c j I N cartel. And here's the crazy thing
about his buddy, Bob Sensey, who they don't talk about.
They had a real big press release, but they talked
about a lot about Paul Campbell, who was the de

(08:36):
EA's deputy Chief of the Office of Financial Operations under Obama.
And I think before that he was for Europe living
in Milan and you know, doing other stuff. But they
don't talk too much about this guy, Bob Sensei. And
there was actually a book written about this guy, Bob
Cenci by guy Larry Coleb and now Larry Coleb was

(08:59):
a CIA agent who was recruited by Miles Copeland, who
was one of the co founders of the CIA, and
also I believe the father of the drummer of the
guy in the police. So he got involved with the
police thing Boom Boom Cheng and so they they he
worked with Larry Long on this other guy, Robert Hurstfield,

(09:21):
and they were actually close with Muhammad Ali. So they
were close with Muhammad Ali, and they they used their
friendship with Muhammad Ali to go to Iran. And so
they go to Iran. This is really a secret, a
secret mission to from the channels with Iran to start
Iran contra, to start you know, arming Iran. And this guy,

(09:41):
he's this guy Bob Senci. He's a long time according
to Larry Cope, a long time like bush Asset like.
He's definitely part of the Bush CIA. He was involved
in October Surprise. He was one of the people flying
bush Uh to I to to Iran and meeting with
the the I agents and Iran so they could plan

(10:02):
to delay the hostages till after the election, and there
was another incident. So this was the book that Loftus wrote.
So Loftis wrote a book and the name of the
book is let me tell you all right, he wrote
a book that's about Bob Sensey and this other guy Hirstfield.

(10:24):
And not only did they do all this crazy Iran
contrac eighties October Surprise stuff, but there was a scandal
that I really never heard of, that these guys were
still working as kind of like political operatives. So as
we know, like the Busch family, they used Nixon, the
same ci people who are used as kind of covert
authors overseas, they're also used as political operatives like the

(10:47):
Watergate break in the October Surprise. But these guys were
still working for Bush W. Bush for the two thousand
and four election, and they were using their kind of
overseas connections to tie John kit Ida. And so this guy, uh,
Larry Cole wrote his book and well there's there's an article.

(11:08):
I can't believe. I can't get the name of the book.
Let me get it right now.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Larry Cole.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, Larry Cole with a B. Yeah, he wrote up
a book, Larry Colb. I believe it is America at
Night is the name of the book. So in the
book you you learn a lot about this guy, Bob Senty,
the guy who was arrested. So he's seventy five years old.
He's a very old person and a longtime Bush ally

(11:37):
and so it's interesting that he's getting got by the
own government because usually the de e a let's the
CIA dealer drugs, they don't kind of interfere with that.
As we've seen with the Hector Burrelas Kiki Camerina case
where Hector Barrels was interviewed, was invested in the death
of DA agent Kicki Camrena, and he actually found out
that Fila Trodriguez of the CI and the Bush Friends

(12:00):
was actually interrogating and torturings guy and then feel Trodriguez
was helping to start these Mexican cartels. So this is
that was a real incident of the c i A
working directly with the Mexican cartels. But if you if
you watch this Amazon documentary or you know, ever check
out an interview with Hector Veriaz and you should definitely
have him on the show, you'll see that his investigation

(12:22):
into the CIA was kind of derailed by the Dea.
So this I think this is some political infighting. I
think it might be the Trump people going after the
Bush team because the Bush guys, you know, and the
kind of intelligence operatives are you know, are anti Trump.
Even though Trump definitely has a lot of deep state
CIA backing, there's kind of like a fractured deep state

(12:42):
between the Trump backers and the bushbackers.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
About the Trump bombing and these boats coming out of Venezuela,
do you think there's any significant drugs being grown?

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, that's that and that's so horrible to me too.
And then obviously we see the real people who are
ready and willing to deal drugs out of the American
And all right, so a Venezuelan boat, it's very far
to get from Venezuela boat. So as anyone studied, like
you know, the recent evolution of drug trafficking, drugs are

(13:14):
usually trafficked from Colombia to either Mexico America or the Caribbean.
They just don't take the boat all the way South
America to a Miami the Caribbean. So it's such a
bs and it is you know, they're becoming judge, jury
and executioner. So if these guys are really dealing drugs,
arrest them, maybe you could find out the people above them.

(13:35):
And we have something we call due process, in which
you can't just say someone is guilty or something and
then kill them without having them being trieding to court
a law. So yeah, and what has Guest did was
horrible And this kind of really shows hypocrisy because Trump
just pardoned the Honduran from a Honduran dictator for drug crimes,
and that's where the real drugs are coming from. The
drugs are not coming from leftist countries. And they did

(13:57):
the same thing in the mid eighties during Iran contro
and they started trying to blame Cuba for drug trafficking.
They tried to blame the Sandinistas for drug trafficking when
it's their allies who are doing the drug company. It's
the CIA and their allies who are doing the drug trafficking.
And that's still what's going on right now. They're trying
to do the same thing they did in the eighties,
which was interesting and this is something we could get

(14:19):
into another time. So it was Robert Vesco. Anyone who's
listening to Dave Emery, you know all about Robert Vesco.
But Robert Vesco was the agent working with these Nicaraguan
people to frame them. Like he went to Cuba, but
he was a double agent. He wound up getting kicked
out of Cuba because they said he was fack. So
he was a double agent sent to Cuba. And then

(14:41):
he was actually, according to a lot of sources, running
the drug operation out of Latin America through Cuba. So
he tried to frame the Contras and the Cubans for
selling drugs when really he was selling way more drugs
with the with the now you try to frame the

(15:03):
San Denistas and the Cubans of drugs, but it was
really the conscious of CIA. So this is like a
pattern of history repeating itself. And you know we're seeing
people like uh, you know Bob Sency, this guy who
you know worked with Muhammad Ali Yasa Arafat, a long
time CI operator who worked extensively with the Nation of Kuwait.

(15:27):
We see there are still up to the same things.
But this is a it's an interesting case. Look up
Paul Campbell or Bob Senci and the book I was
talking about, I think is America at Night. Two members
of the book, yes, two, but one is Overlord, which
I haven't read. And the other book is it's another book,

(15:50):
can't be I can't remember the name. I just read
it America at Night. Yeah, that's that's what I thought.
It was the true story of two rogue CIA operatives,
homeland security failures, dirty money, and a plot to still
the two thousand and four US president idential election by
the former intelligence agent who foiled the plan.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
I gotta recommend that movie. I gotta recommended.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
That's the kind of interesting thing going on. And we'll
see where that. There's a movie.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
There's a movie called Men of War and it's directed
by Jen Geishan, who's the daughter of that guy Geishan
who ran the Tunnel and the Limelight. He owned all
those clubs in New York back in the eighties, and
she's his daughter. And it's it's about the coup in Venezuela,

(16:40):
that coup attempt in Venezuela that was put down by
the angry Fisherman because she was actually dating that guy,
Jordan Grudreau, who now is facing charges for that. And
it really goes to show you how the whole thing
was just a big scam. It was just a big
scam to raise money and to leave this poor in
this poor Sapa Gudreaux out there to hold in the bag.

(17:01):
He's not going to do an interview with me now,
so I might as well describe him as I see
Jordan Gudou. But there's a guy involved in that called
Cleaver Alcala Cordonas who's in prison right now. He's going
to die in prison, and he was charged with the
and he was an ally of Maduro. Who's that guy

(17:22):
at Chavez? Okay of yougo Chavez, and then he tried
to overthrow Maduro with this guy Jordan Gudeau. There was
a plot there with him, and he was just they
didn't want his name on this coup, so what they
did was they charged him with drug trafficking. And he's
in prison right now, doesn't even get any visitors.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Man. I.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
In fact, I can hook you up with him if
you want, if you want to interview him, man. Cleaver
Alcala Cordonas, who was a former military with the Java's
part of this coup attempt here, and they got him
on narco terrorism, even though there's really no evidence he
played gild but there's only no evidence when he's drug trafficking.

(18:03):
Really fascinating story bro, Casey, how was your audio? Can
you hear me? Casey? How mad are you talking?

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah? No? No, I can hear you? Great? Now? Yeah,
So I knew this guy, Brian Walshton High School. He was.
He came off as like a kind of like Alex p. Keaton,
you know, rich kid. He dressed like John Gotti, and
he was at age fourteen, was penny loafers and omani
when you know, I was still wearing sneakers and T
shirts starts nickers and T shirts still but but yeah,

(18:39):
so you know I lost touches with him over thirty
years and about two years ago, two and a half
years ago, maybe even almost three years ago. Yeah, it was.
It was New Year's twenty twenty three. He was arrested
for killing his wife, and his wife was and washed.
His wife was Serbian, and he made national news because

(19:02):
he did all these Google searches like how do I
dispose of a body? How to get a murder, how
to wipe off blood, all these ridiculous Google searches that
anyone with any knowledge of cybersecurity or the trail you
leave would never do. And it's interesting I'm finding out
to his Twitter account, he's very interested in cybersecurity and
hacking and the NSA and all sorts of stuff and

(19:25):
the Secret Service, and so he had a lot of
really interesting interests that I was not aware of. But
he's on trial right now. Nancy Grace just did a
big video on him, and a lot of people think
he did it. I still so I came out when
it first happened in defense of him because there was
a major esping our scandal that involved his wife. She

(19:46):
was working at a apartment complex called the Crossing in DC.
And at this apartment complex, they had these fake government
agents Arian t Here's a Day and hater Ali who
were pretending to be uh part of some secret government
task force. And then they were befriending off and giving

(20:09):
them gifts, giving them iPhones, giving them guns, and even
they were giving them upon the.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, and they're right, yeah, yeah, it's And the way
this is portrayed in the media is that they tricked.
These poor secret service agents were fooled by these guys.
I don't fooled. They're paying their rent and give them apartments.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Eh, you know, right, and and and obviously they're the
media also tried to say, hey, these guys are they
didn't get arrested for espionage. They were obviously involved in
some type of espionage. Like one of the guys was
the head secret service for Joe Biden and they had
him tracked by his phone. They were they almost had
like an Epstein level surveillance, and they were recording people

(20:51):
having sex in the building. So they're involved in all
sorts of nefarious activities, getting people in the defense industry,
law enforcement, and the secrets nervous to like kind of
befriend them with all these fake guests they had fake
like fed SUV's and she managed the apartment while they
were there, and then according to a lot of residents there,
she was very shady when they asked her about it,

(21:14):
and they thought she was trying to cover something up.
And so four months after this big incident happens, she
disappears like there's no there's no record of her death.
She just kind of disappears after these four months. And
these guys like recently, like one of them got sentenced

(21:34):
to less than three years, the other one was sentenced
to a little more than five and and the guy
who was the ring leader got sentenced to less time
than the other guy. And one of one of the guys.
Hater Ali would tell residents that his uncle was like
the head of the is SI Pakistani intelligence. So there
was obviously some type of SBNR scandal that should have

(21:57):
been bigger than Watergate. But as we know, with the media,
they make scandals out of nothing and they hide the
scandals that are very important to our national security. So yeah,
they all get off. And now so Brian is now
on trial and I'm so, this is the crazy thing
that he made a crazy plea. So instead of saying

(22:20):
I didn't kill my wife, I don't know where she is.
There's nobody, no proof, he says, yeah, I killed my wife.
But no, he just said I didn't kill my wife.
I woke up she was dead, so I panicked and
I disposed of her body. So that's the new defense.
But this defense has happened after it's very new. He
never he didn't plead that till recently. But he was

(22:41):
actually stabbed while he was in prison, a month before
he was supposed to go to trial, and who stabbed him.
They said the stabbing was completely unprovoked. So after he
gets stabbed, they send him to a mental hospital for
the criminally insane. He's the victim. He's not the person

(23:01):
who stabbed someone unprovoked, which is, you know, a crazy
thing to do, even I'm not sure if it was unprovoked.
So he goes to this Bridgewater State Hospital which is
a very much like a Shutter Island mk Ultra hospital
where they they've been numerous scandal does a private run
prison where they keep prisoner in this seclusion. They do
like abow grade type stuff. They throw acid in their faces.

(23:23):
I'm not sure if they have them take acid like
they did for mk Ultra, but it seems like a
very mk Ultra type hospital. And when you see him
coming out of this, I think.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
I lost you again, man, Okay, we're back again.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yes, I don't know where we got cut off this time.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
I'll tell you it was right when you were talking
about how they have him in this psychiatric facility that's
all kind of fagazy and they're throwing acid in people's
faces in there, And I could tell you my own
experience with some of these places. They You're right, man,
These places, these psych institutes and that they the jails
and the courts order these people sent to, especially for

(24:02):
evaluations and stuff, are a nightmare and they run like
some kind of a chop shop. You know, it's just
unbelievable what they get away with that. That's in Vegas.
I don't know about to.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
No, it's the same thing. It's the same thing in Bridgewa,
So Bridgewater. And there was another hospital like this, Vacerville
in California, and so many like infamous mk ultra people
were there. Charles Manson stayed there, Donald the Frieze and
the whole SLA were there, and all sorts of other
serial killers. And and then it was revealed that at

(24:33):
this institution they were doing MK ultra might experiments on
the kind of criminally insane because there are there are
pretty good test subject because you know, if they if
they talk about it, you can just say, oh, he's insane.
We never tortured anybody. He's just making it up. But yeah,
So he's in an institution very similar to that, and
then he comes out with this ridiculous plea which no

(24:57):
one's gonna believe. You know, if you if you wake
up and your and your wife is dead or she's
not you don't even know she's dead, she's not breathing
or whatever, your probably to call nine one one see
if they could resuscitate her, and they're bringing on sudden
death syndrome. So it's a ridiculous plea and they're not
mentioning the.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Real it's not that bad of a play. And he
has a chance with that because then they could only
charge him with the disposal of a corpse and that
kind and stuff like that, and which is very minimal charges.
You know, it's not that bad a play. They don't
have the body, they can't prove cause of death, they
can't prove manner of death. And here you have a
guy admitting that, yeah, I did, I disposed the body,

(25:38):
and it's not that bad a play. What else does
he have? What else has he got to work on?
But but to backup for one second, I.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Didn't know I would I mean me being uh me
being a conspiracy theorist, I would point to, you know,
there's multiple other ways she could have either disappeared, there's
no body, nobody even there's not even a proof of death,
there's just a proof of disappearance. She had all these
spies and she's in this in this spy circle at

(26:09):
her job, and these these spies they hacked people's phones
and obviously one of the biggest incriminating factors for him
being the murderer is all these incriminating Google searches, and
anyone could have put those in. You know, any of
these spies could just hack your Apple ID and then
make all these Google searches. So yeah, you are, I

(26:29):
guess you are kind of kind of right. It might
be a smart plea if he really didn't think he
could just get away with pleading not guilty altogether and
not posing in the body. And and there is some
incriminating evidence of him buying stuff like clean up materials,
but it's it's it's it's hard to clean the crnceine
and it's hard to make a body disappear like the mob,

(26:50):
who are professional killers. That it's with the exception of
Jimmy Hoffer, you know that there's not too many times
even the Mafia has made a person disappear. And terms
of like cleaning a crime scene, when you're dismembering someone's body. Meanwhile,
he's raising three kids under the age of five. So
while he's doing this, he manages to chop up his
wife's body and dismember and while he's raising these three kids,

(27:13):
and they and so there is there's a series of dumpsters, right,
So there's all these dumpsters, saying and there's one dumpster
where he left like her COVID boots. He's her COVID
ID and some boots, but no body parts, nothing that
would make you think she's dead. And that's the only
dumpster where they found stuff. All the other dumpsters they

(27:34):
say her body was just incinerated. So they're basically, if
this is true, they're telling people in Massa chooseas Hey,
if you want to get rid of a body, just
putting this dumpster and owncinerated, you know. So I'm not
I don't know if it's true. I don't know if
the body can be incinerated, but it seems like they're
trying to paint this guy as someone who starts googling
how to dispose of a body and then becomes a
Maxter dexter like crime scene cleaner and body disposer over

(27:56):
in a couple of days, which I don't believe.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Okay, but if there is some kind of these guys
are spookes, you know, the guys the I say guys
right when the Secret Service, because that Secret Service then
was covered up for sure, right, so they make a
deal with this guy. And they say, look, you know
you're already the serving time. Now you'll get credit for
this time served. You'll get a deal with this disposing
of a body case. And everybody keeps their mouth shut

(28:20):
on whatever happens to this woman who killed her? And
what you know, they.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
H I'm not even sure she's dead. You know, if
she was, if she was some part of an intelligence agency,
you know, she just she didn't seem to care too
much with the kids, like she was having an affair
and not even coming home spend time with the kids.
She's living in DC, Brian's taking home with the kids.
She doesn't care about these children. She's not even spending
like Christmas and Thanksgiving with them. She's spending Christmas and

(28:46):
Thanksgiving with her boyfriend. So, if she was some type
of foreign agent and they just wanted to get her
to disappear, get her out of there, or yeah, the
people who can get rid of a body, the people
who can like meticulously clean up a client, seen these
professional intelligence agents, if they wanted to silence certain of
her after you know, if she was a loose end

(29:06):
in this intelligence operation, if she had some some knowledge
orf she was gonna be prosecuted. She could have been
killed by this intelligence agency. And yeah, they could have
had some type of leverage. The stabbing could have been
a threat, like hey, you know if you don't plead
guilty to at least this. Yeah, and then whatever went
on in the MK Ultra Shutter Island hospital, like who

(29:29):
knows what the doctors were doing where they implanting false
memories in him, where they trying to make them a
Manchurian patsy, Because we've seen in cases like Sir Hand,
Sirhan with RSK and Mark David Chapman that they can
take people and make them really believe they killed someone else,
or implant false memories or and even to it. Even

(29:53):
James Earlreay was an Ultra as well too, And you know,
all these people pled guilty to something they didn't do,
and often like one of the driving causes was you know,
some type of MK Ultra mind control that kind of
forced them to make a false confession.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
You know that that brings up I'm talking to John
Hinckley Junior. He just wrote a book and I'm on
the early short list to get an early interview with him.
But we'll see what's going on with that? They seemed
to be but we'll see what's going on. That's just
put it that way.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
But I know that I mean that that that that's
all like an overlooked shooting of Reagan and family, very
close to the Bush family. And yeah, I'm not sure
if I've read about any mkultr stuff on Hinckley, but
I definitely would not be surprised.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Well, yeah he was part of that that Christian Minsion.
You know, all kind of shneandings with that guy, But
I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Almost just like Chapman, right right.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
I think this book though, is going to be pretty
much a whitewashed kind of a deal. But but as
far as people who might not want to poo pooh
this MK ultra thing, I did an interview with this guy,
Stephen Smith, who was from Canada. He wrote a book
called a Psychopaths Machine. And the institution he was in
is verified MK culture. They did mk ULTR studies there, Yeah, yeah,

(31:12):
probably was. It was in Canada, I know that. And
the doctor who ran the place, one of his the
patients who was again a murderer, like you said, he
let this guy live at his house. This guy lived
at the house of the doctor in charge of his
whole facility, and the guy would go to South Africa

(31:34):
work as a mercenary and then come back to live
with the doctor would go on missions to South Africa.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
You know, No, I was watching an episode of William
Ramsay in something and he was part of about the
almost like Dirty dozen operations they were doing with the
MK ultra murderers where they would send them out, you know,
to our foreign countries. There's like political assassins and stuff.
The whole I've been definitely under a big MK to

(32:00):
h heep died for the past year, and you know,
it's fascinating.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Is you have anything else going wrong with this case?
With this Brian Walsh, I think so.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
I think he's definitely being set up to be some
type of Patsy the hot dyke. You know, did they
send him to this horrible hospital, you know, obviously not
to have him get better or receive treatment. You know,
he gets stabbed and has anxiety, You don't send him
to a hospital for the criminally insane for being stabbed
or having anxiety. He's not. He was convicted of art

(32:30):
theft and his wife was also very much involved in
his art fraud where they were selling fake Warhols on eBay,
and then he took the fall for her, So that's
why he was home with the kids. He took the
fall for their their joint art fraud selling fake warhol
So he was on house arrest and awaiting sentencing, and
I think he was. I think he recently was sentenced

(32:51):
while he was awaiting trial for the murder. But she
was very much involved in that too. And you know,
she had a history of working in like DC Hill
hotels and you know, working with a lot of foreign nationals,
So you know, it's an ideal role for an intelligence
agent of we've seeing like in Watergate. If you have
someone working in a DC hotel, they can bug the rooms,
they can find out what these foreign dignitaries and these

(33:13):
politicians are doing, are saying, and who's having sex with who,
you know. So it's not like crazy to suggest that
she's some type of intelligence operative because she went from
you know, working as a hotel clerk for probably you know,
like fifty thousand dollars a year to the regional manager
for Tishman Spire, which is a company that's connected to

(33:35):
NBS Society Arabia. They're connected to Black Row, connected the
Open AI. It's this massive real estate company that almost
like the Serious Tower and all sorts of other stuff.
But they're a very kind of shady political or relation
and not shady business. And they she starts working there
for like three hundred thousand dollars a year, you know,
a lot of money for someone who doesn't have like

(33:57):
a proper college education, at least in the I think
she might have had a certificate from Cornell Hotel Business School,
but that has no that has no little to do
with working in real estate and managing a luxury property,
even though you're still managing housing. But hotels are very
different than real estate.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Fascinating stuff. And was speaking of mk Ultra. I saw
one of your new YouTube channels where you say that
now you're a fan of.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
I've become I've become a fan of Candice Man. It's
been interesting. It's been it's been a while, like I've
been following her, like she's I think she at times
she's entertaining. I thought that Blake Lively stuff was entertaining.
But she's one of the few people who are actually
talking about the deep state, the c I a Epstein.
She's talking about guests like you had on, like Tim O'Neil,

(34:48):
she's talking about his book Operation Chaos. And I don't
think she's She's not like the former like Blexit. She's
not doing too much race banning anymore. She's not like
a repub looking stooge. And I definitely disagree. I think so. Yeah,
I did another video on this dude, Blake Neff, and

(35:09):
he was a former Tucker Carlson writer who got fired
for posting on this you know, four chan type racist
message board about how black dudes playing call of duty
brings the crime down. He's using the N word, he's
disparaging agents, even mormons ed, you know, basically blaming black
people for for crime, using the homophobic slurs and and

(35:33):
and sexist slurs. But he actually became like the head
writer for the Charlie Kirk podcast after being Tucker So
after he had this whole racist pass they and gets
fired from Tucker Carlston, he gets hired by the turning point.
You know, I know very well he's a racist pos
who posts on post racial slurs and racist stereotypes and

(35:56):
all sorts of horrible sexist, homophobic stuff and I know
people like, you know, maybe people think people throw around
like racist, sexist and homophobic too much, but he really is, like,
it's not, it's not he made a joke about fried chicken,
or he said the N word while rapping to a
Kanye West song. Know, he's dropping hard rs, disparaging of
black people, blaming black people for all the crime, responding

(36:19):
to hard and words, making anti agent stuff. But now
he's he's like the head writer of the Charlie Kirkshow.
And he challenged Candice Owens, which is weird or not
weird because he hates women, so he's also like a
misogynists in cell they did a dating uh he went
on like the Washington Post like backpage, like dating channel,

(36:42):
and so he went on a date and he talks
about how he just wanted to escape women and that's that,
that's why he has so many hobbies. But yeah, so, yeah,
so I did a little sense stuff.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
They can't function like the most basic functions. The basic
thing in life is to find a girl who get
married and have kids. What's who we're designed to do.
And these guys just can't can't pull that off. But
but back to Cannice Owens. You know her husband has
all kind of connections to Tate Entrew.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Taate, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I'm not an Andrew
Tate train. And yeah I've heard about Jordan Farmer and
he's also like a really rich English guy, like old
English money. So so who knows? And then then what
a BA be controlled opposition? Right?

Speaker 1 (37:32):
You know? As for right now, I like what you's
doing and cannas on what do you make of then
her friendship with this fellow Ian Carroll who comes out.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Of note I don't like Ian Carroll. I I don't
mind Ian Carroll. I know I've seen you post badly
about him, but I I just I know more for
his tiktoks, Like I don't watch his full length video,
so I just watch him.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
And mister and mister Casey gang. Let me ask you
a question. This character shows up out of nowhere in
two years. He doesn't come up through the ranks, right,
No one knows who this guy is. And I mean
he claims he doesn't know when how could this guy
be doing research? And he doesn't know who anybody is? Okay,

(38:18):
he doesn't know who Casey Gane is. He doesn't know
who Dave McGannon is, he doesn't know who William Ramsey is.
He doesn't mention May Brussels or Dave Emery or John Barbara.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
This guy knows nobody but freaking Joe Rogan another one. Okay, yes,
And then suddenly they are experts on everything, oh, by
his research skills, and he's an expert on blackmail and
Bobby's being blackmail.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
And this is how we handled I means he's kind
of admitted it. He's kind of admitting it that he's
just taken everything from Whitney Webbing. Whitney Webbed an amazing researcher,
but she's just basically reading other people's books and you know,
try to do too and putting two and two together
and coming up before. So it's weird. Like if someone
is talking about Epstein, I think that's great. I think,

(39:06):
you know, as long as they're talking about me, correct
they get other people to talk about them. If people
are talking about Israel's influence on America in terms of
bringing them the war, I think that's great. Okay, So yeah,
it is really weird. Who gets to go on Rogan
and to be kind of celebrated, and then you know,

(39:27):
people like us who who have to struggle to get
you know, or people like me. Ed gets millions of
views people like me. Strug guy says.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
When he sees a Jewish star of David, he thinks
of his kids getting raped. Okay, what the come on?

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Man?

Speaker 1 (39:44):
You know, I never heard that, big Yeah, this guy's
obsessed with man.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yeah, and I and I hate that. And because like
I grew up, like my my soccer coach is Jewish,
My all my favorite teachers were Jewish, have Jewish friends,
and I I think and a lot of even one
of my mother's best friends is like anto me. She's
the head of Jewish Voices for Peace and in Boston.

(40:13):
And so, you know, so we've been we've been kind
of you know, protesting as Israel before, been kind of niche.
And but I do think there are people like maybe
even Myron Gaines and some of these people who are
overtly anti Semitic. So people will conflate anti Zionism, anti
war with being anti Semitic. So I didn't know he

(40:34):
said that, And I, you know, I think there's there's.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
No place let me hit you with this, you know,
Paul Krasner, right, Paul, No, Paul Krasner. He was with
the may Brussels and he was one of the followers
Paul Krasner. Do you know that Paul Krasner was friends
with Epstein?

Speaker 2 (40:52):
No, I knew Chomstein and Finkelsteam were ye.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
But crass and Jerry Lefcourt was Abbey Hawein's lawyer. I
think that that may be the connection between and you
know he was lit too that I think that's maybe
how they made the connection. But there's emails with Krassner
and Epstein talking about my case, talking about the Katie
Johnson case. By the way, Krassner was going to write
about it and Epstein talked them out of it.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
And I've read those emails. So I so anybody out there,
if you go to I think it's jmail dot com,
it'll give you a Gmail that is Jeffrey Epstein's email
and you can kind of search through it and stuff
like that. So yeah, I've read those emails.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yeah. Now, Casey also gave me to the text messages too.
And by the way, we're doing a show later on today.
I'm taping later on today with the Barrett Brown who
comes out of anonymous and wiki leaks and he knows
all these characters. There's a new batch of emails coming out,
supposedly hacked emails coming out, And I asked Barren Brown

(41:51):
about it, and he went off, Man, all these guys
with this new controlling and this new batch of emails
are all intelligence connected and even connected with the disseminating
child pornography and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
So un I know, dude.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
The whole Epstein story is controlled from top to bottom,
you know. And you say, oh, they're talking about Epstein.
It's like it's a good thing. They're all friends with Epstein.
They're all they're all his people. Vicky Ward Can Cheetah
Star and Off Bannon Wolf, They're they're Patterson, They're all
friends with Epstein. They're all friends with Trump, this bunch,

(42:29):
and and they're controlling the story. Bannon. Now it comes
out there, you know how close he was with Epstein,
that that Epstein. Everyone says, oh, Bannon was advising Epstein
with these videos to the media control. But then now
we see read these emails and we see that Epstein's
introducing Ben into all these all right figures in Europe. Yes,

(42:49):
just the whole Epstein story is bullshit, man, It's totally controlled.
By these people and I don't trust them.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Well that's why I think. I think. I think drop
site News has been doing a really great job because
they're not They're not just taking the government released emails
which are curated, but they're they're taking you all the
e who Barock emails. So I think as there's a
lot of sensationalism and gossip going on in the government's
release emails, but there's not any damaging evidence connecting them

(43:16):
to Israel like they have and the great work that
drop site News have been doing. And then start coming
from the government that they were all hacked.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Well, let's stop for a second, they too, because these
aren't coming from the government. These are coming from the estate.
The government served a subpoena on the estate throughout the
suggestion of Brad Edwards and one of the Lawrence O'Donnell
was involved, that the idea from no but no.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Drop site News has a whole separate They have a
whole separate batch of emails that were hacked by I
think an a Ranian connected agency that hacked the who
Barock's emails and have all his correspondence with seeing So
those those are a lot more damning to me, in
my opinion, in any of the emails released by the.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Estate, I see casey they're being released by the estate,
and who runs the estate Darren en Dyke and Richard Khan,
who were Epstein's partners, who were co defendants down in
the Virgin Islands. The first word out of Stephen Hoffenberg's
mouth was Darren and Dyke and Richard Khan part of
the whole of Tower financial scam. So these guys have

(44:24):
been Epstein's partners and part of the biggest Ponzi scheme,
the second biggest Ponzi scheme, but it was working hard
to be the first, the second biggest Ponzi scheme. Okay,
in history. Darren Endyke and Richard Khan up to their
neck and all this crap down in the Virgin Islands,
stole money of the Butterfly Trust, stole thirteen million dollars
from the from the from the trust, and got away
with it. These are the guys that are releasing these

(44:46):
material to the to the Oversight Committee, Okay, and we're
gonna trust them for what they're releasing, what they're putting out.
Give me a break, man.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yeah. And then you have Mark Epstein, who looks like,
you know, he's the one who did the bubba blowing
Trump emails forever blowing bubbles, bubble bubbles, and he seems
to know a lot more than than than he let
on before, Like, and he's never been arrested or really quo,
oh yeah, why hasn't.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
That guy been arrested? Why hasn't his money been seized?
Where does this guy make any money from?

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Why is it? You know, less Wexner, all these people?
Man forget him?

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Yeah, he does whatever he wants. Boy, we got about
five minutes left. Man, let's see what else Canis owens? Though, Now,
what about this Cincinnat you're a new fan support of
Cannas owns Casey game before.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
I watched Tucker Carlson, I watched I even watched Tim Poole,
even though I totally disagree with him. But I do
agree with Canis on a lot of issues.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
And just we're gonna see Casey but.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
I watch her every day. She's must see TV regardless.
Regardless case he's.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Going to be wearing a hat like Tempoole and nice
in pairs on the But what do you call it?
But what do you make of this Macrone lawsuit? With
the Candice Owens, you think that the Macrone's wife is
really a man.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
I wouldn't doubt it. Uh so, I really until I
do like research for myself. You know, I don't trust anybody,
you know, I'll listen to them and you know, and
then be objective about it. I don't know how much
it matters in the grander scheme of things, but I
do know that governments cover up things like that, and
I wouldn't be surprised if it's true, or wouldn't be
surprised if it's not. The fact that she's saying, and

(46:38):
I do believe her when she's saying there was a
plot to assassinate her, I think that's had more credibility. Yeah,
that that that's what kind of led to the Tempole
fake just smallt doing things. But I do believe her
that there was a conspiracy against her.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
We talked about Temple off the air, so so explain
to were saying Temple just.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Oh yeah, yeahah yeah, yeah. So this guy Timpole his
right wing podcaster.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
He just took money from Russia, by the way, he
took money from ten and he took money.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
From the Credit Corporation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all
those right wing people who were meant to support Trump
because the Russians for Trump over the Democrats. But yeah, no,
this guy who wears a beanie on his head, but
he said his house was shot at, and I'm gonna
do a short little video that's not real. It's so
obviously fake. I'm not gonna waste like an hour of

(47:29):
my time dissecting all his lies. I could do it
in a minute, so I'll do it nice on a minute.
But yeah, he's definitely pulling a Just Smallett seeing Candice
Owens being getting all this attention and Charlie Kirk kind
of becoming a martyr, and he wants to be like
that figure for the poking Party, So he's not He
says his house gets shot up, but then he won't
bring up so a police report, he won't show the
footage of it, and just logic alone, like nobody on

(47:52):
the left cares enough about Tim Poole to shoot at him. Cana,
his owns fans do not care enough to shoot at Timpoole.
So he's trying pulling a just smalllett and get attention.
You know, I could have like a little short video
on it.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Yeah, Marjorie Taylor Green is running around to saying that
they do a syringe on her through a syringe at
the house, and even a pipe bond because she said
to it at one point. And suddenly all these people,
all these Trumpers are all suddenly all uh victims of
a plots. Can gave me a break, man?

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yeah, No, I think it's I think they're seeing it
after after Charlie Kirk and like so they're trying to
blame Charlie Kirk on on the left, and I don't
believe it is the left. And I think Kansas isn't
doing a good job investigating that in real time. And
you know, it's tough when you got to speculate in
real time. That's what you should do. You should speculate
and you know, come up with theories. But usually I

(48:41):
like to speculate and work on my theories, not in
front of the not nothing, you know, and not bring
it to the public till I have like all my
theories and all my facts together. But Kansas is kind
of doing it in real time for the Charlie Kirk assassination.
And he definitely was not killed by that. Tyler Robinson
got that guy's definitely a patch who might be NP

(49:02):
culture as well. And I'm cheese insinuating might have something
to do with Israel and he was changing his support
and the Messade is the world's leader of assassinations. So
they would definitely be a suspect in my book. And
obviously this is some of the suspects, but doesn't mean
they did it, but it means you need to find
sacs that could either exclude them or prove that they're guilty.

(49:22):
So I think a lot of these Republicans now are
seeing with having Charlie Kirk and they want that kind
of monitor them, and they really want the left to
hate the right, and they want political violence to further
divide the country. So the uniparty of the Democrats and
the Republicans who work together on war taxes and fight
over identity politics, they want the country fighting over identity

(49:44):
politics while they continue to make the poor promissure and
the wars more warriors.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Yeah, the end the Quark assassination has so many holes
in it, you know. But but like you said, we
got to take our time, you know, and we can't
just jump to oh, I've done a couple of year,
So yeah, take your time man.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Yeah, look, look how long it took for like the
JFK assassination MLK assassination.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
But the way, did you hear my interview with that girl,
Sally Sammy Kirkland, who uh she's the one that discovered
all that stuff about Erica Kirk and uh bosan?

Speaker 2 (50:20):
What was it? Yeah? I did you know? I watched
your Twitter, follow your Facebook. Usually most of the content
pops up, but I haven't seen any of Charlie kirk content. Yeah,
but I'll definitely look into it.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Oh, she's the one that discovered all that stuff about
Erica Kirk and that orphanage in Romania and Erica you
know that is so that is all that's a wealth
of suspicion.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
And then did you see the picture of her with
the gun and like the Romanian stooges looking like a
bad eighties action movie.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
No, but I adn't catch that one. But one hundred
percent though that the guy there in Romania, who was
a US Army guy, US military guy, was definitely suspected
for this kind of stuff. And is there was a
vimeo of her talking about this guy she was friends with,
this guy in Romania that's involved in accused of trafficking.
There's one hundred percent and this woman Sammy Kirkland, who

(51:12):
had a really good TikTok man, they went after her. Man,
they shut down everything, and she's the one that originally
found all this stuff. And now, as a matter of fact,
when it came out, when it was discrediting it, they
went after her and said, this is discredit. I showed
her when they googled her name all this suf the
warnings would come up and it's the whole way. But
she laid it all out step by step on my

(51:33):
show man. So it's all there. But Casey again, we're
out of time.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Man, all right, great talking to that's sorry about the
phone lasses. Hopefully able to cover up with some wonderful insight.
While I was talking to myself.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Once again, the CIA is I think Casey game.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Phone number about.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
All right? Man, So what do you want to leave
us with? We got about two or three minutes.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Yo yo to check out my YouTube channel. Man, I'm
gonna be dropping some you know, cool news content. I'm
trying to do it every day. I'm trying to, you know,
have a good short form content recapping my new stories.
And then maybe one to two fifteen to twenty minute
news stories and then yeah, something big happens or I

(52:17):
find something new. I might do something about Muhammad Ali
working for the CIA, because that is I think that's
gonna explosive information that people didn't know about. But yeah,
my YouTube channel definitely check my YouTube channel out and
I would love, yeah, send me tips to on any stories.
My emails Casey Gain at gmail dot com. Don't don't
you know, don't spam me, but any if you have

(52:37):
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Speaker 1 (52:56):
That is true. It always brings a good information Casey Gain,
and I recommend people to follow him on Facebook because
he always got great perspectives on different stories. I always
appreciate when I here is a commentary on something Casey Gain.
Once again, the book is called CIA Secret Warne Jamaica.
Great reviews. Got a great move by the Operaing Report

(53:18):
on there. More recently, and otherwise and check back all
our previous shows to always good concept from Casey Gain,
Casey Gaine, thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Oh you're welcome. Thanks for having me on at great combo,
even even with the interruptions man and great questions and yeah,
you covered everything that I've been up to in a
nice short amount of time. So a great job.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, we'll cut that up. Don't't even notice, man,
like it never happened, Like Rosemary Woods. That's what they
called me these days, Rosemary Woods of the podcast. Okay, bro,
I'll talk to you so can I all right,