Daniel Hopsicker

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Okay, we got with us today. One of my favorite guests.
You know, I always when I used to read Daniel Hopsicker,
his books and his videos and his Mad Cow Morning News.
There's a dream of mine to one and they'll be
able to talk to this guy and get him on
the air and talk to him. Daniel Hopsicker from Mad
Cow Morning News. Oh no, it's called mad Cow Productions now, right, Daniel.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yeah, I metcut Broad dot Com. I thought it'd make
it hard for people to find me. Actually, you know,
the websay started back in ninety eight, ninety seven and
ninety eight. I mean I've been yeah, but the oldest
stuff is is you got to go, you know, is
lost except through archive dot com. But but yeah, I

(02:17):
been doing it for a long time to a little effect.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Well, you know, but the people that do know, Yeah,
the people that do know what you're doing, All the
people that count, you know what I mean, you're in
that group there with all the insiders, you know what
I mean. I noticed that yesterday talking to Gene chip Tatum,
you know, on you know, we have like a little
network going on, you know. I think it's a getting
some word out there.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
I first started talking to chip Tatum back during the
Clinton Chronicles Mina scandal, when they were trying to tie
the drug trafficking through being Arkansas Bill Clinton, which who
who certainly would have been a willing participant party, but

(03:06):
it was being run at the time by Vice President
George Herbert Walker Bush. Yeah, so that's a long time ago,
chip Tatum. That was like ninety six or ninety seven.
He was hiding out somewhere after after almost being assassinated.
But we're here to talk about Albiro. You rebate a

(03:28):
former president Colombia. I got my my blood got up,
as they say the other day, when I read a
New York Times story saying that that cables from the
US embusy in Colombia had implicated or tie or linked Alviro.

(03:52):
You rebate to h to drug trafficking. Well, it's not
that way. And froh or EUIBA runs what used to
be called the Mediine cartel with with our thanks, with
our thanks, and and has for a long time. He

(04:14):
basically took over from Pablo Escobar, but you never heard
about it because because he wasn't supposed to do so.
There he's he's, you know, the biggest drug pen drug
kingpin in Colombia. And and as is the case with
most countries, it is no surprise, okay, in every country

(04:35):
in the world. I believe, every country in the world
with a significant drug market in that country, the drug
trade in that country is run by whoever is run
in that country, the generals or you know, the premier
for president. That's just the way it works, the drug trade,

(04:55):
the drug businesses is nobody wants to talk about it
because as the people that are making money from it
or have power from it don't want to want it
to be discussed. I just don't know why it's okay.
For one example, one quick example, Steve Bannon, Trump's guy

(05:18):
was quoted in the book Fire and Fury as saying
that Russigate is all about money laundering. Well, of course
he wouldn't, and he would know. And the corolarity that
is that money laundering is all about drug money because
drug money is the majority of the money, it gets laundered.

(05:40):
It's apparently the UN put out a report a couple
of years ago. I can't put my hand on it
at the moment, but it's that the worldwide And this
is hard to believe, people spend more money on drugs
than they do want food.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Edging that and why is that? Because food is so
cheap in some places? How does that work?

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Mean?

Speaker 3 (06:01):
How does that work because food is so cheap in
some places where they grow their own field.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Maybe it's in terms of global trade home I wish
I had in front of me, but but it is
a vastly larger. It's it's the dwarfs. Probably any other
business except weapons and weapons go with drugs weapons without
Without the drug trade, weapons trafficking would be a very

(06:33):
small and boring business instead of the the Roaring twenties
sort of, you know, let's sell guns to whoever wants
to buy him a thing that it is today, But
you know, the drug trade, I mean it's not run
by guys with bandoliers across their chest. It's ultimately run

(06:55):
by guys and Morgan Stanley and and and HSBC bank
and Wills Fargo. That's wup profits from the drug trade.
Only thirty percent of the proceeds of the drug trade
come back to the country which is exporting drugs. It's

(07:16):
seventy percent stays in the US. And that's uh, that's
what props up our economy back during the recession of
two thousand and eight or with depression actually, and begin
the UN put out reports saying that without without drug money,
US banks would go under. So that that's that's the

(07:40):
scale of the market that that we're discussing. When we
talk about, you know, narcotics and the illegal drug trade, Well, why.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Do you think it is? It's so well known now
mena Arkansas and Barry Seally did a movie about it,
you know, and Clinton's involvement that how come people like
Trump don't bring that or ban and don't bring that up.
The opposing parties and say that traction of Clinton's constantly
they'll bring up some stuff about the Clintons. Is it
because they're complicit in money?

Speaker 4 (08:11):
It's got very little to do with the Clintons. Okay,
I'll tell you an anecdote. Okay, I was down in
Louisiana this long time ago researching Barry Seal and went
with Barry Seal's widow w seal to bail out one

(08:32):
of one of his kids who was caught in doing
something illegal, not majorly illegal, but illegal. And as we
went to bail them out at the Tammany Panish periad
of jail, I met a bail bondsman who was who
was there getting getting getting someone. And I'd heard this

(08:54):
guy's name before, but anyway, only he was a character
is a character if he's still alive. And and and
he told me something just just just a straight flat
out statement that like kind of blew everything welse away.
He said, you got to know something I can't do.
We see an accident. You got to know something about Barry,
he said to me. He said, Verry Verry smuggled for
the Democrats, okay, which means there's other people like you know,

(09:18):
Oliver Norris smuggling for the Republicans. So so there, that's
pretty much how it goes. It was the trade in
facted in book Medie and Gertel was, was you know,
going back that far, it's it's it's it's ridiculous, but
but you know, the drug trade is is as big

(09:39):
as actually bigger apparently today than it was fifteen twenty
years ago. You didn't hear about it so much unless
you're you're young and and going to raves. But but there,
you know, there it is. Yes, it's so it's huge
and and oh and here's the thing. I mean, this
is the other thing that he got me about. Alvarro.
You rebay Okay, you talked about the movie about Barry

(10:00):
Seal that came out last year, Tom Cruise. That movie
was shot down in medi in Columbia, Okay, a large
part of it, and it was the only American film production,
major film production that had gone to Median Columbia in
like forever, in like forty years. So did you think

(10:22):
that maybe the people making the movie, Dougley lemon Is,
the director, had some times to old viral u rebe.
Do you think there might be some drug money in
that in that in that production. I mean, movies are
notoriously hard. It's notorious hard to find out who put

(10:48):
up the money for the for the movie. But apparently
a good bit of the money for the Doug Lamote
Tom Cruise movie about Barry Seal. What was it called?
It was so stupid, it was just hard to remember.
A good part of it was was put up by
a company in Louisiana that runs that runs helicopters out

(11:15):
out to uh oil rigs, okay, which has long been
you know, don't quote me, but yeah, I mean it's
long been one of one of the major ways to
uh uh to transport drugs. I mean, you fly the
drugs almost to the US, and you drop them into
the water near an oil rig, and then an oil
oil rig boat goes out pick picks them up. Helicopter

(11:38):
comes in to drop off workers on a regular rotation basis.
The drugs go back, you know, right into the U
s with with you know, with no stop anywhere. And
if the plane that dropped the drugs in the water
is tracked and and checked out by God forbid, the

(11:58):
DA you know there it's playing. There's nothing on board.
But that's not something that would happen. That would happen
because the DEA knows. I mean, we've got a government
that can read your golf that can read a golf
ball from outer space, okay, to make your golf ball.
They know every every plane that's coming in with virtually

(12:20):
with drugs on it. And the only planes coming in
and planes are by far the larger, the big well,
I'm not so sure that that's solely a case anymore
with all the stuff coming in through Mexico. But airplanes
have traditionally been been been the way that drugs enter
the country. And who gets busted with with you know

(12:40):
when you read about like a major bus home who's
gotten busted is is not like the home team. It's
like independent contractors trying to make a book without getting
quat Are we clear?

Speaker 5 (12:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Yeah, on the same page.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, Like the little freelancers are the ones who get
busted and they make these big cases because they're not
paying up to the CIA. I guess right.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
You know, everybody always claims the CIA. I'm sure the
CIA is deeply implicated, but I think this is sort
of like, you know, there's people in the NSA. I mean,
for example, I mean the Okay, this is again fifteen
years ago. I found this out of seventeen years ago.

(13:27):
One of Mary's Seals closest associates who got in touch
with me while I was down there writing the book
was a guy who had spent thirty five or so
years working out for the CIA, but for the NSSA, Okay,
and he had been in charge. He told me of Bolivia,

(13:50):
the country Bolivia for the NSSA. In fact, he had
married Roberto what it is that guy's name. He's probably
the biggest drug board in history. But but I mean
he started members saying his his he had married one
of one of that guy's daughters. Okay, and and he
worked for the NSA. Okay. And then you begin to learn,

(14:12):
like like we did a few years ago, that the
NSA pretty much records every phone call on Earth. And
so if the NSA gets you know, uh, intercepts of
phone call, you know that that's someone we don't like
is bringing a loan of drugs in. You know, well,

(14:33):
Bacon pretty much decides decide to pass that tip along
to local law enforcement, I would think. So anyway, I'm
just trying to say the CIA. The convenient rubric is
is to you know, say like the CIA. But but
when we say CIA, we really mean the National Security

(14:54):
State because it's it's uh, you know, there's fifteen different
agencies there and spy agencies, and they all on Arkham
would have to be complicit in it.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
All the drugs coming in from Colombia, those are coming
from Mexico, now right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
Yeah, they a good bit of it, A good a
good portion of it. I think the Colombians decided that
it was easier and safer just transport drugs to Mexico
and then and then the Mexican guartels were responsible for

(15:34):
bringing it into the US and distributing it. And and
so that you know, he pulled the Colombians back one step, okay,
because all you've heard about in the last say ten
years is is uh not Publo Escobar, but but uh
uh l Chapo, right, Chapo became the number one. An

(15:59):
he goes on trial in September in New York, it
should be pretty interesting. But you know, you didn't hear
about Pablo Wescobar or his you know, successors. After he
was killed. He began to hear about guys like L
Chapo and and the Cineloa cartel and the Zada's right,
and that's that became our our number one. And and

(16:23):
that's always mixed missed direction, Okay, going back to c
i A World War two, the CIA's predecessor, they made
a point of spearing the opponents for the things they
were that they themselves were doing. So that's just the

(16:47):
way it goes. And and you know, and you want
to talk about Donald Trump for a minute, which I'm
happy to do. I've been tracking people who were tied
to Donald Trump who were involund in drug trafficking and
and one specifically in Sarasota who was in business with

(17:07):
Steve Bannon's top lieutenant, who went to bat In in
the early nineties. For for the guy who today is
is universally thought of as mister big Ski, the head
of Russian organized crime Semion Mogulebich, who's known as the

(17:32):
brainy Dom and he's just they've they've run rings around
the Russian mob. Has did you know, for instance, that
the Russian mob took over Miami from from the mafia
from the American mafia.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
I know the Russian Mob is very powerful, especially in
New York. I didn't know they took over Miami.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
Though they took over Miami. I'd met with an FBI
agent before retired. Move was on the Russian Mob detail
a month or so ago. And and they and you
can see this now from numerous sources, that the Russian
mob runs Miami. I used to you know, it's not

(18:15):
it was always fun the mafia, because there's smarter and
I think they're younger, and I think there's maybe there
is more of them. Russia is a mob state. There
is no difference between the Russian mafia and the Russian government.

(18:36):
They're one and the same. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
I remember I met these private investigators in Brooklyn. They
were they were Russian. Uh, and they knew and uh
and dropovs driver a KGB driver, and they would say,
you know there was oh yeah, when we investigate cases,
we have the KGB go to their house and take
their stuff and just just going to there's you know
that they had they had power over the kg BEAT

(18:59):
from here in the United States.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
And that's the scary thing. Okay, this scary thing about
the two Zay sixteen election, well, the election itself was scary.
I mean, we were we were given the choice between
the two most detested people in American history almost okay,
the two most disliked candidates that had ever run for president.

(19:27):
And I'm happy Hillary Clinton lost. I'm telling you that
up front. I'm not. I'm not. I'm very happy Hillary
Clinton lost because she stole the Democratic nomination from from
the guy who should have been the Democratic nominee. That's
just that's what happened. And part of it happened right

(19:48):
there in Las Vegas. Yeah, so so there. But the
scary thing about the election of Donald Trump is that
prior to that election, in order to petition our government
for anything we needed, like you know, please, you know,
stop the flood, you know, whatever we needed, we we

(20:11):
had to stand behind the American millionaires who have the
first shot at at at the at the money money trough. Okay,
But now since the twenty sixteen election, we had to
stand behind all the American billionaires who get first shot

(20:32):
at whatever the government's passing out. But now we have
to stand behind like a bunch of Russians too, which
which sucks as far as I'm concerned, it sucks. I mean,
money has always played a part globally in the American elections.
But if if, if France had decided to like put

(20:58):
seventy billion dollars into the American election, I had been
upset by it, but not as upset as I am
by the Russians, because they're not They're they're not a
country like like we are. Uh, Russian never had an Enlightenment,
Russia never had a reformation. You know, Russia's you know,

(21:19):
one step above a tribal society. I don't want to
get quite uh talking about Russia too much. I mean,
they've also created some of the world's great art and
then there and they're terrific at a lot of things.
They're terrific at mathematics, they're terrific at chess, and they're
terris terrific at hacking. That's that's they probably do that

(21:44):
better than anyone in the world.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
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and Muhammad Anta's Flying Circus. An incredible body of work
from Daniel Hopsky's working on a new book about Trump, Koshogi,
and uh Mugglevich?

Speaker 4 (26:45):
Is that it? Hey?

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Pronounce it mobile Mugglevich? What can you tell us about?
You know, back in the eighties. Every week the other
show Lifestyles are Rich and Famous. Half hours devoted to
odd non Koshogi, the richest man in the world. Look
at his yacht. Look at the party with the Michael Jackson,
Look at the party with Liz Taylor. Look at all
this stuff, week after week after week, ad nausea. The

(27:07):
guy dies a year ago, not a peep, not a peep.
I had to find him. Someone had to slip it
to me under a transom man, a brown Manila envelope. Okay,
what's going on there?

Speaker 4 (27:19):
Man? Well, if you want to ask about your showbiz ties,
Donald Trump, yeah, yeah. First of all, I want to
tell you something that a customs agent in Louisiana told me,
and it has proven to be the case. He was surprised,

(27:40):
he was surprised that I was surprised that someone I
didn't think Newberry seal Newberry seal. And he said, you know, yeah,
he said, you know, there's not that many players out there, okay,
And and that is indeed the case. There's not that
many players out there globally. So back in two thousand

(28:04):
and six, two thousand and seven, I became very interested
in two American registered planes that that went down in
the UK ten one had five and a half tons
of cocaine and the other had four tons of cocaine
on board. And the one that and both of them
had been owned by UH previously owned by a lieutenant

(28:29):
by the top lieutenant, the Baden Kashogi, you know, the
guy that he's linked with romy Elba Trowery. And clearly
on both planes, the gold Stream two and DC nine
had all more the earmarks of CIA planes. Now, when
I say that, we first of all, the second one
was obviously a CIA plane because it had been engaged

(28:53):
for the prior four years in extraordinary extraordinary renditions remember those, yes,
And you know there wasn't any doubt about it. But
the DC nine two. Now, how I can say that
is I have become This may be one of my
only areas of expertise. I can spot a CIA plane

(29:15):
a mile away by going through its registration records. Here's
something you need to know. The CIA never sells its planes.
You'll never see, you know, x CI a plane for sale,
you know, down at your local plane market, doesn't happen.
And so CIA planes since the sixties, they've been sheep

(29:39):
dipping them, and you know, airlines like Southern Air or
Air America. And after that was no longer efficient, they
began shipping them around between between people that are known
to be associated with the CIA, like Dan Kashogi, who

(30:02):
was reputedly and reportedly the c I as fixer for years,
and he owned both of these planes. And and that's
how of our eBay came up because the second of
these two American registered planes, a Gulf Stream two, which

(30:26):
crash landed in in the Yukutan with four tons of cocaine,
had phone to the Yuktan from men from the Rio Negro.
Rio Negro, which is your bet interns sleptworks located, and

(30:47):
that that's where it originated. Well, well, I mean, you
don't have to look around on the internet for five
minutes out that Rio Negro and Hilario and and Tioka
everything that used to belong to Pabulos Cobar and that
they belongs to El Viral your Rebay. And they put

(31:08):
out that that plane was carrying cocaine, that that that
came from Clungbin Rebels when they came from FARC. Well,
there's there's no way cocaine from the FARC is going
to take take off from from their their sworn enemy
of Viral your Rebay's airport. It doesn't happen, okay. So

(31:32):
that was an open life that that's you know, that
explains how I know about the Viral your Rebay. Plus
his sister and daughter in law got busted in the
US for cocaine a few years ago for bringing in
like eighty kilos, so that was no surprise. Kashoggi, Koshogi,

(31:53):
he's associated with with both of the planes, but but
primarily with the first plane, okay. And and what these
what these guys. The one thing to show the first
day Kashogi has has in common with Donald Trump is
is they're both Palm Beach home, Palm beach homies. Okay.
They both went to the same parties Kashobe Soul, Trump

(32:15):
is shot. Khogi was invited to I think two out
of three Trump weddings, you know, YadA YadA, YadA, on
and on and on. So where was I before I
went off on that?

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Just the connections between Trump and Koshog, that's right, that's.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Right, okay, probably the chief connection, which is okay. So
I've been following the stories of these two busted planes
for seven eight years now, and and there's always something
new to find out about about about what's going on

(32:58):
and here's and and in the twenty sixteen election, it
all began to become clear, okay. And that's thanks to
a guy named Andy Bodolado, who was Steve Bannon's top lieutenant. Now,
we would have never heard an editor at White part
We would have never heard I would have never heard

(33:19):
the name Andrew Botilado, Okay, except for a panicked decision
that Steve Bannon made before the twenty sixteen election when
newspapers found out that he was registered to vote in
an empty house in Miami. Okay. And in the night

(33:41):
before that came out Tony Flouris before that came out,
Steve Bannon changed his registered where he was registered to
vote to a beach house in Sarasota owned by Andrew Bottolado.
So that's where I became aware of Badelado. Then I
learned that this guy and Andy Bottlado, had been involved

(34:02):
in cereal stack fraud. And he had been involved in
cereal stack fraud with a couple of guys, one in
Sarasota named Jonathan Jonathan Kershon and another interesting guy, a
mobster in Tampa named Mike Musio. Not the sharpest knife

(34:23):
in the drawer, Mike Mike Musio, but Musio and and
and was in business with Bottlado, and Museio was in
business with Curshion and Museio and Cursion Musea's company was
owned by Kushoki. At the same time, Kaushogi was smuggling

(34:43):
drugs and probably making more money than that from stack fraud. Okay,
And the thing that Koshogi and Trump having, one of
the things they have in common is is they both
bank with Deutsche Bank. Khogi Deutsche Bank had to pay
back two hundred and seventy nine million dollars. They paid

(35:05):
it two hundred and seventy nine million dollars fine because
Koshoki had ripped off that much money in a really
ingenious stock fought and and he was in busit. You know,
the money was being laundered through Deutsche Bank. So so

(35:26):
go figure, did kho die broke?

Speaker 3 (35:29):
What did Koshogy die broke?

Speaker 4 (35:32):
No? No way, no way. No. He was no longer
um boy, he was no longer to go to guy.
He was. He's like he was old, right, I mean
he was maybe semi retired by that time, but he was.
I mean he was still majorly active in the early

(35:53):
two thousand, two thousand three, two thousand and four to
two thousand and five, both in drug trafficking and in
sack fraud. I mean he made three hundred million dollars.
He made money in two different ways off of off
of this country company called Genesis in their media with
Rami Obertrawi his his lieutenant. They made they pumped and

(36:17):
dumped it and they made a couple of hundred million
dollars that way. And they also they also made three
hundred million dollars uh through through a very ingenious fraud
that left that left all of the left the bag

(36:40):
being held by a sack brokerage called Native Nations owned
by a woman who used to play like uh, female
roles Indian roles in Hollywood, who had also been the
secretary to Michael Milken. So you see what I mean,

(37:03):
there's not that many players out there, Michael Milkin. You
know I have, I mean, I have information that indicates
strongly to me that Trump is part of the continuing

(37:24):
criminal conspiracy with the pictures and talking about now when
I mean in continuing criminalspiracy is actually a legal term.
Now it is what most people get convicted. Major people
get convicted of. They don't get convicted, you know, because
they get charged that way. And and if you're involved

(37:46):
in a criminal conspiracy, okay with with with with somebody
and the guy that you're involved with the criminal conspiracy
is involved in another criminal conspiracy with the third person,
well you're you're as guilty of this of of the
other continuing criminal conspiracy as as you know, as if

(38:08):
you were as if you would made money from it.
That that's how they they convicted all of all the
mobsters from you know, John Gotti, John Gotti's era, and so.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
There, Now you think when this book comes out, you
think you'll get mainstream media. Uha appearances from this or
will they just be totally hushed up in the No.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
No, because because what happens, they put some of these
people in prison. Okay, I mean, but when they put
him in prison, they don't put him in prison for Okay,
Jonathan Kirshen is now doing twenty years in of state.
Now where is he? He's someplace, I forget the moment.
But but he's doing twenty years in prison for stock

(38:57):
fraud as he's a stock and generally stock fraud you
get a tap on the wrist. I mean, the sec
is is toothless. So if you're engaged in major stock fraud,
you might get two three years. But he's doing twenty
years in prison. But what he was convicted of was
not not the stack, not the stock fraud associated with
with ed In koshoge in the five point five tens

(39:21):
of cocaine. They can convicted him of of of of
something he said the ant slary that another stock entirely. Okay,
So when they when they take you down and convict you,
they don't know. There's nobody, nobody in our government is

(39:41):
interested in exposing how drugs get into this country.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
But but even though this is anti Trump and the
whole media is everything, they'll bring up everything Trump that
they won't touch this.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
No, no, they won't they I don't believe. So I'll
make you know. I am started publishing stories about it
because I've you know, I've been been going through several
thousand pages of court documents and want to be sure
of everything, because I get sued a lot really easily

(40:21):
if you're and and it turns out, I mean, it
turned there there there he is. Okay. I got sued
by Beer and not gonna tell you his name. I
got by very Steals attorney, Okay, after after Berry, and
he kept the book from reaching bookstores for almost five years,
a five year old book. You know how much news
is there in that? So so he won and and

(40:44):
and the reason he sued me was because he's now
an international investment banker and doing very well. But but
I may have to use his name again because because
he's he's you know, he's tied into this. He's he
he uh incorporated a company in nineteen eighty seven for

(41:08):
Khog after Seal was murdered. The next year, he incorporated
a company in Florida for an Koshogize, Lieutenant Romeo but
trolley and the company is called Nationwide Vans and you
know vans by van rentals. I mean, that's how they
were moving drugs. And that's the way to do it.

(41:29):
I mean, if you own Holiday are well there you go,
that's another one. If you don't own an out an
outfit that rents RV is called Holiday r V in Miami,
and and you send out a drug mule with a
huh an RV loaded to the gills with cocaine, you know,

(41:51):
on its way, you know, send him out there to
drive from my from Miami to California and he gets
busted in Oklahoma. Well, you go, hey, we just rended.
We just rented him an RV. Had no idea what
he was going to do with it. And and that's
increasing and that's a very very smart way to uh
to keep that, you know, from from hurting you. So

(42:14):
it all ties together, it's not all tie it doesn't
all tie together. And it looks to me as if
the Russian mob may be the biggest player in it
created globally today, may have taken over from from from

(42:36):
the American mafia. Certainly they're just they're everywhere, They're everywhere.

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Daniel Hopsticker from Mad Cowprode dot com.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Great body of work at Dane Hops. Daniel, you mentioned
getting sued all the time. I noticed an article on
on your site. I think it's no longer there, and
this was something about the expression swingers comes to mind.
Are you allowed to talk about that or is that
a case where you got sued Swingers Vince the movie Swingers.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
No, no, no, I have a suit in a good lung.
While I sued four times when when my first two
books came out and there's movement you can do if
you can sue and and you don't have a major publisher,
you know, with with a major law firm behind you,
because you could spend one hundred thousand dollars and win

(48:08):
the case, and you've lost the case, you know, because
you've lost one hundred thousand dollars and you know what's
only going to make you a fraction of that. So
but since then, I haven't been sued knock knock wood.
But I mean, you know, when you get sued, it's
like you've touched a nerve Vince Vaunt for God's sake. Okay,

(48:29):
See look if if if every okay, there are just
as many people, maybe more people working in money laundering,
laundering the drug money, as there are in in in
transporting the drugs or selling them. Okay, if you think
about it, and and it's it's harder. If if you

(48:54):
sell a planeload of cocaine in the US, you've made
way more money than you can fit in a plane
load of money, Okay, because money, money weighs more than
than cocaine does. Man, you've got to launder the money,
which means you've got to find ways to get him
into into the system. And the chief way to do

(49:17):
it is to wunder it through banks. And that's what happens.
And so the app ratus necessary to launder money is huge.
Now here's here's here's what I discovered. I was. I
was investigating the company in Saint Petersburg, Florida, Skyway Aircraft

(49:40):
sky actually Skyway Communications. Skyway Aircraft was was a subsidiary, okay,
that that was responsible for the flight. Okay, indisputably responsible
for flight. And yet the owners of Skyway never lost
the night's work of sleep. Anyway. Skyway had had gotten.

Speaker 5 (50:03):
A eleven million dollars loan from an invement bank in
a tiny town in Texas that really wasn't an investment
bank at all, and it only made.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
Like several other loans, one of which was to a
major Mexican drug trafficker. And this major Mexican drug trafficker
was a Mexican industrialist, as you might expect and he
owns a railroad that today was all the way to
Kansas City, Okay. That was called our Gyle. The bank

(50:38):
was called our Gyle, and our Gyle had had itself
gotten a major investment from a hedge fund run by
someone in Chicago who was wildly, wildly ill equipped to

(51:01):
run a hedge fund. And she was Vince Spawn's mom.
I mean, I didn't go out looking the smear Vince Bawn.
For God's sake, his mom, Sharon Vaughan, who was making
a tidy little living selling videotapes on the Internet about
her her patented she and etics workout had had been

(51:30):
I mean, and and how did how does that figure?
How does the mom of of of uh movie star,
movie star movie star in a suburb of Chicago and
get involved with a really nonexistent investment bank in tiny

(51:54):
town in Texas that was involved with that was loaning
money to the company in Saint Petersburg, Florida that owned
the DC nine that was busted with five and a
half tons of cocaine. Well, how that happens is if
you read the news Chicago, is was was h the

(52:16):
port of entry or or the port of the distribution
point for the for Sinaloa cartel, dope and and and
so the money would pour into Chicago, probably from all
four directions on the compass. And here you got all
that money in Chicago. Well, one of one of the
things they did was they had like a trucking lines

(52:38):
that would that would truck it back to Mexico. And
another way, the other ways was was to use poor
little people like like Vince Vaughn's mom, Sharon Vaughan, to
launder money back, you know, toward to where it was
supposed to be. And and and that's what happened. That's
how I became aware. I mean, and there are all

(53:01):
kinds of fascinating stories that one comes across when one
gets into this.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
Now, Vince Vaughnd's mother, she was, she was, She had
this money and this bank quote unquote banked loan money
to she.

Speaker 4 (53:17):
Ran this poor this poor well, poor lady. Okay. First
of all, okay, she's living in Lake Forest, Illinois, which
is a suburb of very upscale suburb of Chicago. And
Lake Forest, I mean, as they had a history. Lake
Forest was where the woman was, where the debutante socially

(53:41):
that Scott Fitzgerald fell in love with in like nineteen
eighteen before he went into the service. I mean, that's
the kind of town that that Lake Forest is. And
there's a lot of there's a lot of mobsters there,
or significant portion of them. And why and she and
a hedge fund that had forty million dollars in it

(54:03):
and she was like loaning twenty three million to this
non existent bank in Texas when thankfully the FEDS stepped
in and you know, and told her she could never
run a hedge fund again. You know.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
Now she was doing this before Swingers, or after Swingers,
after Vince Vaughan became rich and famous, or before Oh this.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
Is this would be uh, this is not that long ago.
This is two thousand and nine, ten.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
Okay, so this is way after Vince Vaughan was already
a megastar.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
Well is he a megastar?

Speaker 3 (54:47):
Yeah? Sure, you must have get five ten million. I'm
figuring to me.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
I mean, you know, but but maybe he is a megastar.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
Well, you're still probably watching Bogart movies, right, You're watching
Humpy Bogart movies out there.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
Okay. Well, the first the first season of what was
this what was the HBO show? He was in a
year or so ago.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
I don't know, I don't even know. Oh that one
with the true detectives.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was better the first year. Yeah
that it was when he was in But but you
know that's just me. That's just so you know, I mean,
Sharon Vaughn is just just one of many. There's a
guy and he's dead now too, so that we can
talk about. He was the US ambassador. Frank Coles was

(55:40):
the US ambassador to the country of Paraguay and and
and while he was there, he met this nice lady
who then became the ambassador in Washington for a Paraguay.
And he's up to his neck in it in this

(56:02):
same you know, this is like yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
Yeah, every everyone, did you have anything about who was
that girl?

Speaker 4 (56:10):
Anyway, just to finish the story, Okay, if every person
involved in drug trafficking and money laundering, which is like
you know, an equally, if they had to wear FedEx,
you know, a couple alls tomorrow, you know you'd be
able to spot them. They'd be on not every street corner,

(56:31):
but but if you hung around the Starbucks for a
couple of hours, you'd see one come in. A huge
number of people involved if if you, if God forbid,
the DA was able to stop all drugs coming in tomorrow,
the economy would crash.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
Daniel, We're at a time. What do you want to
leave us with you? You're like a minute left?

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Ay.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
A quote from a movie probably nobody else. They're scene
called Howard's End written by a guy I had to
read in college named Ian Forster, and the quote at
the end of the book come was let's say if
the guy says, and he's old now he says, live
live all you can. He says, it's a mistake not to.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Yeah, blessed Daniel. Thank you so much for coming on
the show. I really appreciate this. I know you don't
do a lot.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
Well, I'm send me an email and let me know
when when this airs or and you know, and I'll
send it out to all my all my keeps.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
Absolutely. Thank you so much, Daniel. Daniel Hopsicker from Mad
Cow Pride Production. Check out look look him up to
on Amazon and see all his books and videos and
stuff like that. Incredible work. And by the way, he
doesn't do a lot of interviews either. By the way,
he hadn't done an interview in years and years and
years when I caught up to him five years ago
and I brought him on the show, and since then
he's he's gracefully come back and can come back many

(57:54):
times and done our show. I said, thank you so much,
Daniel Hopsicker, you got to go back. This is the
guy who found Barry Seal, lived with Barry Seel's wife,
wrote the book about Barry Seeal, exposed Barry Seal. This
is the guy who found Mohammad Atta's stripper girlfriend okay,
and did the interviews with her. This is the guy. Man,
This guy's done a lot of great work. And you

(58:15):
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his the thoughts and this and that, but this is
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