Doug Caddy : Being There - Eyewitness To History

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we have a returning guest today, Doug Caddy. It was
a fascinating guy. The new book out is called Being There.
I witnessed the history and a more apropos title I
could not think of. Here's the guy who's been everywhere
He was friends with Eat Howard Hunt. They set their
desks I believe touched each other in the same office.

(02:25):
They were so close. He was the Watergate the first
attorney for the Watergate Burglars Uh, a new Uh, William F.
Buckley and a guy banister from from the JFK assassination
lived around the corner from me, Howard Hunt. Do I
have Doug Caddy or who's that guy Forrest Gump? Remember
Forrest Gump? Then movie that car? Who knew Everybody? Dougie there.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Right? Thank you on the program today, No.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Doug, thank you so much for coming back. Definitely one
of our favorite guests here on the show is Doug Caddy.
And we've also had some man the people in the
book Robert Merritt. You co wrote a book with Robert Merritt, right.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
That's right in the year twenty ten it was published.
It was Watergate Exposed. That was the title of the book,
water Get Exposed.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
And then in the wait, Wait, and something new is
coming up with Doug. By the way, too, there's a
show with Doug Merritt in the member section. People can
go check it out. And there's a previous show I
did with Doug canty for three hours. You could find
that on YouTube ord Speaker or iHeart. Now there's some
new information that came out with Robert Merritt. New files
disclosed in twenty eighteen. What's that about.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Well, Robert our book to our original book was Watergate Exposed,
which was published in the year, as I said, twenty ten,
and as it turned out, Robert did not give the
full story that he knew. At that time. He withheld
certain information and actually I can understand now why he
did so. But in the year twenty eighteen he has

(03:56):
disclosed that. And this is primarily his three meeting with
President Nixon, which was which were held in nineteen seventy two,
just before Watergate broke and just after Watergate broke, And
there's a fascinating part of history, and I do believe
it took place, and there actually have been some ramifications

(04:16):
that have taken place since since he disclosed this in
the book.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm not aware of this at all.
Where he's Where has he disclosed this in your book?

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Well, he was interviewed on a Dark Journalist, which we've
ben find on the YouTube Dark Journalists in February of
this year. I arrange that to take place, and then
actually the interview was played on played on coast to
coast on March first, and it was all drawn up

(04:50):
upon what he had sent me for disclosure in the book.
And basically there were three meetings in nineteen seventy two
with President Nixon, between President Dixon and Robert Merritt. We
sort of have to backtracked a little bit because Robert
Merritt became a confidential informant for the Washington DC Police
in nineteen sixty nine and he started working under Carl Schauffler,

(05:13):
who was a military talent agent who was assigned to
the Washington DC Police, and he provided Carl schauffer with
advanced knowledge from one of his own informants of the
break in of the Democratic National Committee on June seventeenth,
nineteen seventy two. In other words, two weeks before the

(05:35):
break in took place, there was knowledge that the break
in was going to take place. And Carl Schaffer actually
set up the burglars because he arranged for them to
believe they were talking talking to or overhearing someone at
the Democratic National Committee talking on the phone and who
said that there was an envelope on the desk there

(05:56):
that had to be picked up by noon on Saturday,
June seventeenth, no later than on Saturday June seventeenth. So
the burglars changed their plan from the June sixteenth to
June seventeenth to get this envelope, which was really a
false lee that had been set up by Carl Schauffler,
the detective. He did that because that was his birthday

(06:16):
and he wanted to arrest the burglars on his birthday
with having the advanced knowledge, but she did. Carl Schaffter
was the detective for the Washington Dcpeace who arrested the burglars.
And the reason this is very important is Robert Robert
Merritt at that time was working under the Houston Plan.

(06:36):
The Houston Plan was developed by Richard Nixon and with
Tom Houston, who actually was a friend of mine. He
was one of the founders of Young Americans for Freedom.
He worked inside the White House the Nixon administration, and
Nixon had concluded that to the FBI and the CIA
and the NSA and these other agencies, intelligence and law
enforcement agencies weren't doing the proper job. They weren't up

(06:57):
to what they should be doing so, he created the
Houston Plan, which was to you would say, would compete
with him to do things that they were not doing.
And the only employee of the Houston Plan was Robert Merritt,
and he did incredible things, many of which were actually illegal,
but that's what they wanted to have done. And as

(07:20):
a result, Nixon became aware of his of his abilities.
Robert Merritt as a confidence informant was very skillful. He
was given an assignment, but usually he just ignored the
directions given to him. He achieved the goal, but he
did it his way, and this came to Nixon's attention

(07:40):
and what he is disclosing in my book being there
eyewitnessed the history which is available available on Amazon, or
his three meetings with Nixon, as I say, in nineteen
seventy two, just before the water Gate breaking and just
after and Nixon summoned him using a secret Service agent

(08:04):
who knocked on his apartment door in Washington, DC. And
by the way, he lived right across the street from
me in Washington, about a mile from from Watergate and
a mile from the Marshton from the White House. But
we have never met even to this day, we have
never met, but the secret Secret Service agent said, you
must come with me. The President wants to see you immediately.

(08:27):
And this occurred just a few days after Jaigar Hoover
had passed and passed away, and he met with He
went to the White House and met with President Nixon.
He was driven there by this agent and who taken
to a sub basement, who might say even the basement

(08:47):
below a basement, and there was Nixon to greet him.
And Nixon said, well, I have an assignment for you,
but first I want to congratulate you on the work
you've done under the Houston Plan. You did marvelous work,
and that's that's how I come have come to know
about you. In fact, we had analyzed who we had
profiled you and it was my decision to hire you

(09:08):
for the Houston Plan. So the first meeting was really
a a meeting to uh, get to get to each
to get to get to know one another and get
more comfortable, and that's how it ended. He did not
give him any assignment at that meeting, but there was
a second meeting which took place just before the Watergate
break in, about five days before the Watergate break in,

(09:31):
and Nixon once again summoned him with a Secret Service
agent coming to his door about three am in the
morning and escorting him to the White House to the
way down there are there are basements and subate baby
basements in the White House, and there was Nixon and
uh and uh. So Nixon said, well, I have assignments

(09:54):
for you, but first I want to discuss uh with
you a letter that I'm going to leave as a
message to the American people that I'm going to leave
in the in in in in the in the in
the in the White House library. And Nixon at that
time was we have to go back and trace Nix's

(10:18):
background because he was very conversant with Majestic twelve with
what happened at Roswell and in nineteen forty seven, and
which is when those UFO crafts crashed there in Roswell,
New Mexico. And as a result of that, President Truman

(10:39):
created the National Security Act in nineteen forty seven, creating
in the CIA. He also created a Majestic twelve which
was comprised of twelve prominent prominent Americans who would advise
the President on what they felt was an alien presidence
on Earth or visiting the Earth. And UH. When Eisenhower

(11:03):
was he elected president in nineteen fifty two, he took
over this UH responsibility of meeting with the MISI Majestic twelve.
And Eisenhower was very cognizant of UH the alien presidents
in what was going on, and so was Nixon to
a lesser degree as his vice president. And but when
Nixon became president, he he UH already had the UH

(11:27):
the background to understand what was under way. And UH,
so at these meetings he had in the White House
with UH with UH with Robert Merritt, UH read the
second meeting was UH was really comprised of an assignment
he gave to Robert Merritt UH, which was to go
after UH what they felt were UH four left groups

(11:50):
in Washington DC. UH. He actually asked Robert Merrett to
assassinate someone he felt was UH doing harm to the
country and UH and Robert Merritt agreed to do this.
But this was just before Watergate broke and at that

(12:11):
time Robert Merritt had had known of the plan to
break into the Watergate and so he because he had
given this information to Carl Schauffer, the detective he was
working with, and so he said to Richard Nixon, uh
that you should be aware that they're that there, that
they break in, that his plan at the Democratic National
Committee at Watergate is already known by certain forces, including

(12:35):
Carl Schauffler and others, and there's a good chance that
the Burgers will be arrested. And Nixon discounted it. He said, well,
I'm aware that according to what Merritt has reported, He says,
I'm aware it's going to take place, but there's no
involvement in the White House in this. It's apparently by
the other other intelligence agencies that are involved. And uh

(12:58):
so I'm just going to sit back and watch it.
But as we know, the uh, the Burgers were arrested.
So at the third meeting, which took place about five
days uh, don't excuse me. About two weeks after the
Watergate break in, when Nixon summoned Merrit again to the
uh to the White House at three am in the morning,

(13:18):
uh he he uh he. When Meryor arrived, Nixon was
crying because he and uh Merritt was didn't know how
to handle the situation. Here was the president of the
United States. He was crying and so uh he didn't
know how to reconsole him. He couldn't go over and
embrace him or anything like that. But after Nixon, uh
sort of got control of himself. He said, well, he says, uh,

(13:41):
I it's all over. I realized now that uh, that
they have gotten me with the break in at the
Democratic National Committee. He said, I wish I wish I
had known. I wish I had listened to what you
had told me at warned that this was a possibility,
that it was a set up, and it w it
was a set up in a in a great a
great extent because Carlshoff, for being military intelligence knew about it,

(14:03):
as did the CIA. That actually a number of people
and agencies knew about the breakdown before it took place.
And so at that point Nichan said, there's certain things
I need for you to do. I can no longer
trust people in the White House. Uh, there's no one
I can really trust in the White House to do
the Isamma, I'm gonna ask you to do. And he said,

(14:26):
I want to read you a letter that I'm gonna
send to Henry Kissinger and and and also a message
to the American people. And then I want you to
take this letter and deliberate Henry Kissinger, and he read
this UH message and the letter to Richard, to Robert Merritt,

(14:48):
and the essence it was on what he knew about
the alien presence on Earth. And he maintained that UH
for years, for over twenty years, the the the US
government had been dealing with an alien bean who was
from the Pennant Nemuru who was working with scientists at
Las Alamos in New Mexico and had provided a great

(15:13):
deal of information bido information, scientific breakthroughs, and all sorts
of things that were extremely valuable to our government, which
Nixon was which was passed on to Nixon, and Nixon said,
there is an alien presence on Earth, and he said

(15:34):
he went on and explaining great detail in this other
Henry Kissinger how it should be handled. And at the
same time, then when he finished with that, he said, wait, wait,
let me do Kissinger.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Wait. Kissinger wasn't aware of this alien presence, but Nixon.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Was, Well, we don't know whether the Kissinger was aware
or not. That was not that he read to him.
Did not disclose whether he had not prior knowledge. My
assumption is that he did. I think we have to
assume that he did. But this was Nixon knew that
in many ways that his administration was over, even though

(16:08):
it lasted for another two years. You know how hard
he fought to remain president. But at that time he
was a very realistic person. He realized it was probably
all over. Though he was going to fight hard, but
he started wrapping up things. And one of the things
he wanted to wrap up was really very important to
him was his knowledge of the alien presence on Earth
and who should be aware of this later on. And

(16:32):
so the letter to Tissinger was really explained it in
great detail, and he said, I want you to hold
onto this letter that I'm sending to you by a courier,
and at a future president. I want you to present
this to a future president whom you trust, only one
that you can trust that it has the interests of
the United States and the world, the world's population at heart.

(16:58):
And at that point he he has Merret to come
over and stand over his shoulder, and he pointed out
two lines in the letter to Henry Kissinger which were
in red ink, and they were a formula formula for
desarfering the knowledge that had been imparted by this being

(17:18):
from their brewal h and could be and could be
deciphering and leading to you might say, an encyclopeda of
everything that was known by the government in this area.
And then he said to Robert Merritt at that meeting
once again was held about two weeks after Watergate, he said,

(17:38):
pull up your shirt and he went over to Merit
and he said, rep end by the risks, And he said,
can I trust you? And Marrit said, of course you Ken.
I said, I believe I can, because you've fulfilled all
the assignments over the last two years that the White
House wanted you to do. I believe I can trust you.
And so I'm pasting this letter this envelope on your chain.

(18:00):
Inside the envelope is a letter to Henry Kissinger and
UH and two discs to to this that had been
had had a recording disc and on the outside of
the envelope it was addressed to Henry Kistener. But the
appearance of it was really like a commercial envelope in

(18:25):
case Merritt had to mail it to Kissinger, in case
he could not hand deliver it. And UH. He used
used the hospital type tape to to attach this to
marriage chest and pull the shirt down because he said,
I don't I don't want the Secret Service agent who
drives your home to be aware of this envelope. And

(18:46):
so Merritt did, uh did deliver the envelope, but he
had to do it by mail. The next day he
went to Kissinger's home and but the maid who answered
the door said that he was not there. She volunteered
to take the envelope, but merrits, no, no, I better
hold on to this, and he mailed it. And he
did get a call later on from about a week

(19:06):
later from Nancy, who was later on I think became
married to Henry kiss did become married to Henry Kissinger.
She just said, this is Nancy, and uh, I want
you to know that we did get the letter that
you mailed to us, thank you very much, and hung up.
And so we don't know what happened to that letter
and the message that was contained therein that was delivered

(19:27):
to hisry to Henry Kissinger. We don't know he's up
in years himself. We don't know what courses he has taken.
A case he hasn't resisted, presented it to another president.
We don't know what, of course he has taken to
have it delivered to a future president. In all candor,
I think the if I do not think he delivered

(19:48):
to President Trump to be honest, because of this is
not someone who has the u best centers of America
or the world at heart, in my opinion and opinion
of a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah, yeah, I'm looking forward to hearing your because the
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I'm your host, Private investigator Ed Opperman. We're here today
with Doug Caddy, who is the author of this brand
new book, Being There Eyewitnessed the History. Mister Caddy was
the first attorney for the Watergate burglars. He worked with
the E. Howard Hunt, part of the birth of the
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(25:39):
many of people involved in Kennedy assassination. Now, mister Caddy,
I know that when I when I when you after
you wrote this book with Robert Merritt, that you two
had a falling out. And even when I had Robert
Merrit on the show, he described you to having a
falling out as well. And many people have problems with
the mister Merrick's credibility, and you did it one time

(26:01):
too as well. Am I correct?

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Well, what happened basically, and it sort of fits into
what I've just been describing about the meetings with Nixon
was after the book was published in twenty ten, within
a month, Mara was interviewed on the pacifica radio station
in Los Angeles, at which time he contradicted but he
had written or had written in the book, and which

(26:27):
was about his going public with what he knew about
co Intel Pro, which was the program intelligence program. Has
worked for the FBI, he's worked for the military intelligence
and the Washington DC Police, and he said in the
book he said that he did this because he mentally
broke with them. It was his decision to break with them.

(26:49):
But on the radio station he said no, Actually, the
real story was that he was part of a co
intel program dreamed up by the intelligence agencies for him
to go public because they wanted him to get close
to their targets, their targets being the weather underground and
Professor Airs in Ohio and these different people Institute for

(27:10):
Policy Studies and so forth. And they thought by his
going public and making and just making these dramatic disclosures
about what had been done by the government against the
far left and and the radical left, that he would
get close to their targets and be more be it
more value to the government and what he could find out.

(27:31):
And of course this came as a soft to me
and to Chris Milligan who published the book. Why why
why didn't he just disclose this in the book? And
then he also disclosed other things which were not in
the book. And this is what I pointed out earlier,
This is what I've been discussing about. His meetings with
Nixon was a major part that he withheld. And we

(27:53):
have to go sort of go back as to what
a government confidence informant is and a confidence performant really
thinks differently and normal people do, okay, and they're always
hedging what they're doing. They always withhold something they never
tell the complete full story, and so he was neither
Chris Milligan, the publisher of Trin Day, nor I had

(28:15):
ever dealt with someone like that. We thought we were
doing with a very responsible person who realized that publishing
books is a serious undertaking, very expensive on the part
of the publisher, and we felt were betrayed by his
doing this. And but it's only come it's only in
recent years that I've come to understand, primarily because I've

(28:37):
worked with professor excuse me, with Detective James Rossting, I
retired in New York, a police detective who had many
confidence performances when he was a detective, and he has
he has explained to me and educated me on the
way confidence and performances think and how they operate. And
so I've come to understand why Robert Merritt did what

(28:58):
he did, though he doesn't doesn't understand the consequences of
what he did. At that time. I don't think he
realized the responsibility he carried and making sure that the
first book was completely accurate and that he would stand
by him. But one of the things he did was withhold.
Was his meeting with Nixon and in a sense I
can understand that marmat Merritt at the time he met

(29:20):
with Nixon was only twenty seven years old. He was
not even a high school graduate. He left two months
before he was to be graduated from high school in
West Virginia because he was being abused by the Catholic
priests and the high school and he couldn't take it anymore.
So he left and got on a train and went
to Washington and started making his home there. At a

(29:43):
very you know, even before he was graduated from high school,
he was all by himself in a strange city, and
then he met Carl Shaffer and his life was changed
and became a confidence from a very skillful one. But
at twenty seven years old, he's someone by the President
at three him in the morning on three different occasions
to the White House in very dramatic fashion. And he

(30:06):
didn't know how to handle this until recently, where he
realized his health was so poor that unless he told
his story, if he could pass away and nobody would
ever know what took place. And that's why he decided
to tell his story. But that was among many things
that he was held from the first book, and both
Chris Milligan and I were very upset at the time.
We felt we had we had because we didn't understand

(30:29):
Robert Merritt and the way he thought. We thought we
had been betrayed. But now I don't know whether Chris
understand it, but I do understand it. And that did
lead to a break between Robert Merritt and myself for
about five years. And then I don't know how we
got together again, but we did, and we've been working
together for the last three or four years, very closely
together on different different aspects. And and so I do

(30:54):
need to wrap up, by the way, what happened after
the meeting in the White House.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Well, before we get to that, what do we have
to corroborate? Uh? Merit story that? Because these are pretty extreme,
you know, it's a pretty extreme story he's giving us.
What do we have to corroborate it other than his word?

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Well, that's all we have to corroborate either one. But
but there isn't a sense if as I understand that, Okay,
this is what this way, this is the way it
may be corroborated since cinema, uh, the the the uh
he made this I arranged for Robert Merritt a pure
to appear on Dark Journalists with Daniel Liss was a

(31:36):
moderator UH in in February of this year and it
was carried on YouTube and the Coast to Coast carry
this interview with uh with one of their moderators there
about about the interview that's been carried under the Dark
Journalists and and as a result of that and the

(32:01):
disclosures that Robert Merritt made, it became it came to
the attention of the White House. I don't know exactly
how it did become get to the attention of the
White House, but they felt strongly enough and maybe someone
tipped them off. I don't know. There were only a
few people who knew knew exactly where the message from

(32:22):
the that Nixon had left inside the White House for
the American people, and you're written on the outside of
the envelope it would be disclosed in the year twenty
and eighteen, and that's when it was discovered. What happened
was a team from the CIA or intelligence agencies went
into the White House. We're saying I would say about

(32:43):
three months ago now now two to three months ago,
and using thermal energy machines started looking in the library
for an envelope that bore the signature of Richard Nixon.
That's all they were seeking. And there were many books
in there, but there was just trying to find a
book that contained an envelope that had Richard Nixon's signature

(33:07):
on him.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
And how do we know this? How do we know this?

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Uh? Well, let me I'll explain what happened, okay, and
then we can we go back to that. Uh. And
it was in the binder, It was not stuck in
the middle of the of a book. It was in
the volume two of American American History inside the library
there and it was found uh at that time. At

(33:33):
that time, President Trump, now this and I'll try to
explain to you how the information I'm importing uh has
come to me? Okay, Uh Trump was President Trump was
alerted that he knew about the presidence of the of
the agents in the library. He knew what they were
up to. When he came down, and he actually wrapped

(33:53):
the book out of the hands of the of the
of the Asians who had discovered it and took possession
of it. And then on his way out, they grabbed
it back and ran ran out of the room and
it's it's I know this sounds incredible, but this was
a message from Richard Nixon about the alien presence. And

(34:14):
apparently the last thing that the Majestic Club or its
successors today to this day want is for this to
be disclosed in this fashion. And so we now believe
it to be in the hands of the CIA. And
the reason this has come to pass or through my knowledge,
is through Rubbert Merritt, who still has his own contacts

(34:37):
in the intelligence community who told him about this. And
so that's all we can rea dealing with something that's
so important is probably the most important secret, one of
the most secrets in the history of the world, which
is Richard Nixon's five page message to the MA people

(35:00):
and read to the world about UH. The role of
the alien presence has been on earth for actually for
quite a long time. We're talking about extremely long time,
up until the print of time and our dealings with it.
You know, argument is not the only one that has
been dealing with the alien presence. Both China and UH
and and Russia and France and a number of other countries,

(35:24):
but to a lesser degree than the United States and
many of our Uh. Many of our inventions that have
come come to pass in the last fifty years really
have come as as a result of information and materials
given to us ah ah, by by the alien, by

(35:49):
the alien presence. Bye bye bye, that that being that
that Nixon said was working with us. Now, remember Philip,
you remember with the work of Philip Corso. Yes, okay,
Philip Corso actually was working in the Department of Defense
under Bright under the key person in charge of technology there,

(36:14):
the key the key General in nineteen sixty one and
sixty three, those were the two years that that's during
the administration of President Kennedy. And if you read Philip
Corso's book that his history of what he knew, he
disposes that his assignment from the Pentagon was to take

(36:37):
these materials actually materials that you could hold in your hand,
and take them to major corporations and tell them to
back engineer them. And so many of the inventions that
have come forward in the last the last fifty five
years have come forward from materials that Philip Corso took
and gave to corporations. And I've been bored a little

(37:00):
bit here, But President Kennedy, Uh, we'll discuss it a
bit later. Was also very knowledgeable about the alien presence
and in fact, I maintained that was really the reason,
one of the one of the primary reasons he was
he was killed.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
You know, I've spoken to a Saint John Hunt about
that specific question. Did his father ever mentioned ending to
him about the alien presence stuff? And he doesn't, He's
not aware of that. What do you make of that?

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Well, he was only eighteen years old when Watergate took place,
you know, I mean, would his father be talking to
someone eighteen years or younger about this? And would Saint
John Hunt, being in high schoo at that time, understand
what what what his father would be talking about. I
don't think so. I mean, I knew Howard Hunting very well,
I knew Dorothy Hunt very well, and they were very skillful.

(37:54):
Uh CI CI agent CI agents. Howard Hunt goes back
to the OSS on World War Two.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Yeah, but how old was Saint John when his father died?
He was an eighteen when he when he died.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, well it was many, many, many years later. But
Howard Hunt not and in his death that confession did
not get into this subject. You know, he only talked
about the Kennedy assassination. He did not get into the
key players in the Kennedy assassination. We don't you know,
they teach you in the law law. You do not

(38:28):
know what is in the mind of another person. We
do not know what was the mind of Howard Hunt
when he gave that deathbed confession to his Hunt. And
we do not know why he decided to tell what
he did and why he did not he decided to
tell withhold a great deal of information. Howard Hunt is
one of the most interesting and mysterious figures in American history.
He knew so much. Don't forget President Etchen talking on

(38:50):
the office tape said you uncover that scab, and there's
all sorts of things underneath that speaking about Howard Hunt.
And so he could have to talk about being interviewed.
He could have been interviewed for probably a month to
two to make public disclosures of everything he had. He
knew about a multitude of things that had happened in

(39:12):
his lifetime as a as a agent for the United States,
and so this was not apparently this was not something
he chose to to just chose to the public. He
was just dealing with the key players in the Kennedy
assassination when he gave this tape to his son prior
to his death. I think it was in the nineteen nineties.

(39:37):
I don't know the exact date of Howard's death. I've
forgotten about that period of time, is it not? Do
you remember? No?

Speaker 3 (39:45):
I don't know not if it's top my head.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yeah, I'm maybe wrong about that. I have to check that,
but maybe more more recent than that.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
But let me ask you that because because you also
you have like a whole chapter here devoted to Jim Rothstein.
I've had Jim Auston on the show a few times.
Have we did about four hours together? Five hours together? Now, Well,
how does he land on all this stuff about the
alien presence and so? What does he say? He's never
mentioned any of that to me.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Well, that's kind of interesting because he's talked to me
a great link about it. Really, he firmly believes it.
And at one time, and you have to interview about this,
it was retained to debrief whistle blowers the Human Proving
Grounds in Arizona. Six of them who met him met
with him in a motel there and near the proving grounds,

(40:38):
in which they disclosed that, and you have to talk
to him about this. But he's talked to me about
it many times about there's three hundred thousand acres there
that just roll back. The lanzos rolls roll back, and
these flying saucers come out, come out from underneath. But
they're really being operated by our people, by American pilotsan

(41:01):
not by aliens as far as as far as we know.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
At least it's something he's eyewitnessed.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
He is very knowledgeable about this. And so once again
we get back to Chetive Brostein, who knows a lot
of things about a lot of people on American history.
But once again, you know, it's things that are withheld.
But I know this is something you'd be probably willing
to talk about. Next time you interview him. You should
talk to him about this.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
Yeah, I absolutely will. And what is his opinion on Merit?

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Well, I think he Okay, How did I come to
know to Chective Brostein? He appeared with Merrit on The
Power Hour Joyce Browley. This will be about seven or
eight years ago, I guess, and I was listening to it,
and so I contacted Joyce, who I knew, and I said, tonight,

(41:57):
can you put me in touch with the chet your
Brosse and because on that program they talked about Watergate,
and so Rostein called me and we've been working, actually
been working very close to together in the ensuing years.
Rostein was a brilliant detective. He had a large number
of informants. And Mary claims that he was not one

(42:20):
of the informants, but actually I think he was not
knowing actually who he was given the information to. In
other words, many times the detectives get this information anonymously
from telephone calls or messages that have left for them.
It's not necessarily that they meet with their informants. But
Rastein had a whole roster of informants, dozens and dozens

(42:40):
of them, primarily from the underworld. We're talking about people
from people involved in male and female prostitution and all
sorts of activities. But who had come to trust Rostein.
They knew he was an honest cop, someone that could trust,
and they confided in him, and he built up this
fantastic reputation. And I guess you have discussed with him

(43:03):
on one of your programs how he uh, how he
came to arrest Frank Sturgis.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Yes, we have you, And I've interviewed also Frank sturgis
nephew Hunt, James Hunt, James James un right, James Unit Again.
Now I've interviewed Sturgis's nephew, James Hunt, the law professor
down there in Texas, who was his alibi in the
day of the assassination.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Uh huh. That actually I'm unfamiliar with that.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Oh, you should talk to me. He's got a lot
of information.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Uh huh. A professor James Hunt is his name.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Yes, I'll put you in touch with me. He's on
my Facebook friends Okay.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
And where does he teach in Texas?

Speaker 3 (43:47):
Off the top of my head, I couldn't tell you.
I've done a couple of shows with him. We communicate.
He's done two shows of me, uh huh. And he
was the he was the alibis. Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Rustin probably has talked to you on your shows about
how he had read to him the Confession of Franks
that Frank steg escave to to Cardinal Cook in New
York City. I think it was in nineteen seventy one
that he gave his confession, uh, in which he accounted,

(44:19):
among many things, of the of the sins. You might
say that he had he had done was in being
involved in the assassination of President Kennedy, and Rastein had
read to him over the phone that confession. And so
Arstein is Rostein actually Carl Schauffer, this person, this detective

(44:43):
that Robert Merritt worked with and knew him and believed
him as I do. He was actually a deep throat.
He was the one who would According to Robert Merritt,
Bob Woodwin and Carl Schauffer went through a training program
run by the NSA at the farm station there in Virginia,

(45:04):
becomes an intensive program to become skilled in wire tapping
and all sorts of crafts of intelligence. They did so
on under anonymous names, but they did so on and
according to Merit that they knew each other at the
time Quatergate took place. And so Schaffer's role is very

(45:25):
it was never really thoroughly explored. He was interviewed by
the Special Prosecutor, he was interviewed by the Watergate Special
Watergate UH Senate Special Committee on Watergate by Senator Sam
Irvin and the other senators. But really I read his
deposition subparquently and he just said, basically, they just said well,

(45:48):
thank you very much and have a nice day. It
was over very very quickly. They did not quis him
in any great detail and needed they did. The special prosecutor. Uh,
there's the staff of the special secuter interviews softer and
he does talk about me and Merit and in that interview,
but he does not. Nobody, nobody, as far as I know,

(46:09):
ever asked Carl Schaffer why you were Why were you
parked one block away in a police police undercover automobile, Uh,
on the on the awaiting the burglary to take place
so you could go in and arrest him. And he was,
he was parked just a block away. He knew the
rest of the burglary was going to go down. But
nobody ever put that question to him. And in all

(46:33):
the many investigations aspects of Watergate, it's quite amazing to
me and so he But I think it was he
had he was in position of such power. He knew
where the where the bodies were buried. He might say
his his specialty in Washington was was getting uh the
goods on people like jerickar Hoober did. Uh. He wanted

(46:56):
to know all the vice aspects of key people. And
I think people were scared of him because of what
he knew and what he could do in blackmailing them,
and so he remains virtually untouchable in Watergate, even though
his role is all important in my opinion, and so
Rastein had several TEA informants. One of them was Skull Murphy,

(47:21):
and I discussed Skill Murphy in the in my book.
Skill Murphy was actually working for the mafia, but he
came close, became very close to to Detective Rostein, whom
he trusts implicitly. And the famous Stonewall Riots were the
gays and transgenders and lesbians and everybody rioted in nineteen

(47:42):
sixty nine outside the Stonewall Ball Bar in New York
was a was actually involved a payoff to a Thai
official of the police department that that type of bar
had to pay off the mafia and police to be
to be able to operate. And so Rosting had learned

(48:05):
about this and arranged for the or the bar to
be rated when the when the when the person from
the high official in the police department went there to
pick up the pick up the money that in an
envelope from still Murphy who was holding it. Skill Murphy
was the bartender, but it was also the informant for
the police as well as working with the with the mafia.

(48:27):
And Murphy still Murphy signaled that the payoff had been
given to this individual, which was going to go to
a high official in the police department. And and that's
why the play. The police rated the place. The only
people that knew the full story of why they were
rating was Rostering in two other officers. But as a
result of that they did grab the person by the

(48:47):
way who got the payoff. But as a result of that,
the the gay individuals, homosexuals that were in the bar
started rioting. They felt that they had been betrayed. They'd
understand why this, They didn't understand it. They didn't understand
what was going on. Basically, all they know there was
a raid going on, and so the for the shock
of the police at the time and Rosting, there were

(49:08):
these riots called the Stonewall riots. That was the beginning
of the gay revolution in the United States. But out
of this raid became the Nap Condition k N A
p P. The famous Nap Condition, the commission in New
York that looked into corruption in the police department, and
it came out of that because of the payoff to

(49:29):
this high police official. So it did lead to an
exposure of a corruption within the police department. And so
that's really how Rostin h Merrit. Merritt maintains that he did.
He did not report to Rosting, but Rostine has recounted
to me things that Merritt has told told him that

(49:50):
that Merritt has told me too. So I don't know
what to make of all that. Uh I Merritt may
be a little confused. I tend to believe Rosting in
this instance here as to who of the information that
he was receiving from his confidence for in four months.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
Yeah, I'll have to have Merit back. I'm sure he'll
come back and less because I know he had a
lot of issues, a lot of a lot of issues.
I hope he'll come back if it's over the same mindset.
I'll have Rustling back to as well. I like to
have you back as well too, because we only got
ten minutes left today, you know, and I really want
to get into this whole thing with Trump and Russia,
and I wanted to ask you too about your relationship

(50:28):
with guy Banister. There's a lot of stuff I want
to talk to you about, but we only got ten
minutes left even less than that. What do you want
to sum up with? What do you want to where
do you want to go? Now?

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Well, as I explained my book, my book was tarted
of being there, eyewitnessed the history at the very beginning,
which goes back to nineteen fifty four, when I was
in high school and dealt with Guy Banister, who was
at that time he was assistant superintendent the police in
New Orleans and I was in high school, and he
later became the handler of Oswald and a month before

(51:02):
the assassination. My whole life has just been I've been
like a piece on a chessboard. I've just been removed
here and there and so forth. I really have not
controlled of my life. And so when you ask me
what I have planned, I have to respond and say,
my plan right now is to sit back and see
where this whoever's moving me on the chess book chessboard,

(51:24):
has whatever plan they have for me. I'll just have
to wait and see. But my role, as I went
to history, spans from nineteen fifty four, which is when
Oswald was going to high school in New Orleans and
I was going to high school in New Orleans, and
Banister was the assistant superintendent piece and we were all

(51:47):
within walking distance of each other, but we did not
know each other, and none of us knew what the
future held it eight years later, or profbly eight years later,
Kennedy would be assassinated. Oswald to be accused as the assassin.
But if my life spans right up to I provided
information to FBI director called me before he was retired,

(52:09):
before he was fired, on Trump and Russia and the
role of Roger Stone. And then when he was fired,
I contacted by letter Special Council Mueller and gave him
additional information. And I include this in my book. It's
a public information. And so I spanned from nineteen fifty
four to twenty eighteen being involved in different different episodes

(52:35):
in American history.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
You might say, who do you think is moving you
around on this chessboard? Do you think it's God or
the intelligence agencies? And who's moving around?

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Oh? No, I think it's not the intelligence agencies. It's
not them. It's a higher power. I hate to say
anything more than that, but that's my conclusion. Higher Park.
That was my that was my role, Okay, And you
have to read my book to understand it, because I
keep popping up in these places and it's not an

(53:08):
events and it was not my decision to do so.
Even the Trump Rush, that thing, which is the final
chapter in my book, it was my mind doing. Someone
in contacted me and opened this whole thing up. And
just like Howard had called me from the White House
and retain me the night of the early morning hours
of the breakd inn to be his his attorney and
the attorney for the burglars. And so that's really how

(53:31):
a life my life has been. It's just something happens
and there I am.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
You know, I always wondered, how did you wind up
at the desk next to Howard Hunt? What was like
an advertising agency something? There were a PR company.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Yeah. When I was graduated from a New York University
law school, I went to work for General Foods Corporation
at that time of the world's largest food manufacturer, Post Cereals,
Bird's Eye or Maxwell House Coffee and so forth. And
after two years of working in their headquarters and plans,
they said, we're sending you to Washington and for the
first year in nineteen sixty nine, we want you to
work out of the Mullen Company public relations firm. You'll

(54:09):
be our employee, but we'll be working out of them,
because we want you to open our office there, but
we want you a year's experience first. And so I
went down there, and six months later Howard Hunt joined
the staff of the Mullen Company. He was placed there
by Richard Helms. He was retiring from the White House.
But I did not know, and I did not know
into Watergate broak, that the Mullen Company was actually a
CIA front, had been incorporated by the CIA. It was

(54:30):
a CIA front, and General Foods was part of the
CIA operation around the world, one of those corporations that
worked very closely with the CIA. This was all held
back from me. I was sort of like sent down
there with the key information held back from me. But
Howard and I became very close friends because William at
Buckley was a godfather to several of his children, and

(54:53):
I had worked very closely with m Met Buckley and
found in the conservative movement in the fifties and sixties.
In fact, when I was an undergraduate Georgetown University, I
wrote in the nineteen fifties, I wrote an article that
was published a National Review. So we bonded together because
we had that William Buckley.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
As a close friend, and Buckley was CIA.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
And and Buckley was actually worked for the CIA, the
CI agent under under Howard Hunt in Mexico City before
he went back and wrote, got up man at EO
and found a National View magazine.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
But have you ever worked for any intelligence agency?

Speaker 1 (55:30):
No? I have not, And I just goose there in
the book I published from the Intelligence Committee. They invested
you whether I ever had, and they found out I
had never had any No agency had ever retained me
to do any work at all. And that is true,
no agency ever did.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
And this stuff about the alien presence, you're convinced it is.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Yes, I am convinced of this. I am thirly convinced.
You cannot understand what is happening in the world today
without understanding there is an alien presence on earth that
we are dealing with. And Katherine Austin fits among other
people who was an official in I think it was
a Bush administration, a high official in the Department of

(56:14):
Urban Urban Affairs. I think it was. She was in
charge of the Housing Administration. She is traced forty trillion
dollars that has disappeared over the years from our treasury
and from all other sources that isn't unaccounted for. And
I believe it as though she that this is being

(56:35):
used by Majestic twelve or a successor in dealing with
the alien presence. They need this for what they are engaged.
And I think that we probably only know five percent
of what's going on. But don't forget about nine months
ago The New York Times on the front page carried
quite an exposure about UFOs. They and they carried on
their website. Several videos have been taken of a flying flying,

(57:02):
flying sauces and so forth. So it looks like we're
heading towards some sort of public disclosure. When and how
it's going to take place, I don't know. But right
now you're saying, do I believe in it? I think
when it happen, when a disclosure comes and everybody won't
believe it, they'll have to believe in it.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Okay, really quick, Did you have an interest in UFOs
before you had heard all this stuff from Hunt?

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Did I have interest in what now.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
In UFOs before you heard this information from Hunt?

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Oh? Really, it never really was an interest to me,
and I really did. I knew nothing about it, to
be honest, until really virtually nothing about it until he
disclosed it to me in nineteen seventy five, just before
he went into prison.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
Okay, and Doug Caddie, we're out of time. How can
people find you? You don't have a website, do you?

Speaker 1 (57:51):
No? I do not, No. I think the best way
is that I am on Facebook, right, I can be
contacted through Facebook, but I do it. We've only touched
upon her, I know, sure, not very deeply. But I
do encourage people if they would like to to purchase
my book Being There, eye witnessed the history. You're gonna
do so through Amazon.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Yeah, Doug, I'm gonna contact you right after the show.
I asked to come back. Okay, because we didn't get
into anything with JFK really anything. We hardly touched on
anything today. Just the fascinating, fascinating work, fascinating book Being There.
I witnessed the history, Doug Caddy, Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Thank you. I appreciate being on the program.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
Okay, they got Doug Caddy? Who was the for you got?
You gotta look at this guy's background to see who
this guy is This is a legitimate guy. And plus
there's also things here I'm not even aware of, these
some State of Texas against Doug Caddy and the Tungsten
Park koreer gate thing he was involved in. That This
guy's legit. This is a real guy, and he's on

(58:52):
my Facebook. Were faith when when something happens to with
my daughters, some accomplishment with debate of something, Doug's right there, Hey, congratulations.
So you know, it's not like a wacky guy. You know,
a lot of times you have a guest on a
show and then you're on Facebook with him and they're
just rambling crazy stuff all the time. You say, oh
my god, who'd I get involved with? That's not til caddie,
and I'm gonna do another show with him. If you

(59:14):
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