Douglas Dietrich : Announcement

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Little baby died in his arms. So we had him
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Speaker 4 (02:10):
Okay, we guess what we got here, you guys. We
got Douglas Dietrich, the formerly Revolution Radio.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
I haven't talked to him in about three or four years,
but good old Doug interviewed me about five.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Years ago on his show.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
He had two shows, Firing Lines and Critical Omissions on
Revolution Radio, and he invited me on name.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
I interviewed me, and.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Then week after week after week, every Saturday night, I'd
come home coaching basketball and Doug would mention my name,
mention right, and spur me to call in.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
He'd egged me out to call in, and I'd call it.
I'd rant and ready for a good twenty minutes while
Doug sat back and I drank his teas, put his
feed up and let me. Well, Doug Dietrich, how are you, buddy?

Speaker 5 (02:54):
Oh much the better for speaking with you. Ed believe me,
you have no idea how glad I am to be here.
And as I've pulled our dear mister David Romero, just
before we got on air, I was saving all my
farting inventing so that the listeners could be entertained.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
By my meltdown in front of them.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
Really, I just want to get down on my knees
and kiss the ground. It's like being someone who's escaped
from North Korea, managed to make it across the demilitarized
zone into the South, and.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
It's just been a nightmare a time.

Speaker 5 (03:35):
And I'm very glad now to be speaking to yourself
and the silly as a way of introducing me, not
just to the listeners, but to the staff of American
Freedom Radio, many of whom are refugees are escape based
from the revolution radio nightmare experiences.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Let's start with a proper introduction introductions. The owner of
the station is named Danny Romero instead of David Romeo.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Thank you, my apologies. Hey, they only tell you something.
You know, I've been here a long time. Danny's a
cool guy. I don't have to worry about anything with Danny.
It's a whole different world. Okay, it's a whole different world.
It's a nice, calm, relax place. No one's screaming at you,
no one is a drunk to get out say that.
But wait, but let's get started. Tell the audience who

(04:26):
is Douglas Dwayne Dietrick Well.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
I referenced myself as the renegade military historian, and I've
spoken on myself as a global crisis analyst, and in
one way, the second half of that definition, or you know,
just that titling, so to speak, is just a wishfulfilment

(04:50):
at this point in my life for something that I
found was not a worthy pursuit when I was involved
with the Department of Defense. And that's essentially what made
the Douglas Dietrick that everyone knows as the whistleblower quote unquote,
which is a title that I don't prefer. It's very
similar to when Ed Opperman and I were speaking about
the old term names for private investigators that just became anachronistic,

(05:15):
like detective and whatnot.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
They just developed to hoky or just to.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
They just sounded too pulpish, and so private investigator became
the apropos term that imbudes some dignity into what men
like at Opperman have been doing with their careers. And
in my case, I prefer the term public informant as
opposed to whistleblower, and because whistleblower has kind of like

(05:42):
a connotation like almost like a stool pigeon or a stooge.
In certain ways, many people who have been classified as
whistleblowers have become passies or have taken the fall. Many
of them have wound up in prison or in under
house arrest or in exile of some sort. It's it's
not a happy, our glamorous position to be in, despite

(06:03):
the fact that sometimes directors like Oliver Stone, for very
questionable reasons, will make films about people like this. And
in my case, I worked for the Department of Defense
for almost a decade. I very much during that period
of time wanted to laterally transfer into a think tank
with many of the global crisis analysts who were working

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with the DoD when I had an opportunity to do so.
And we're talking about when I was in my twenties,
I met some of the men that I had grown
up admiring and had wanted to meet and wanted to emulate,
and I was just truly floored in what I can
say was one of those life changing moments when they

(06:49):
asked me to strap my stuff and show what it
was that I predicted for the near future, and of
course I gave them my analysis at that time, and
we're speaking about in the mid eighties, and I predicted
the collapse of the Soviet Union based on the demographics
I had seen working as a Department research So I

(07:13):
heard what I had to say about the collapse of
the Soviet Union, the rise of fundamentalist Islam Asia ultimately
filling in a demographic vacuum in Siberia, and all the
reunification of Germany. All of this I had predicted in
the nineteen eighties based on the cycles of history, as
opposed to simply taking current events and trending them into

(07:35):
the future, which is what many science fiction authors do,
as opposed to somebody who's trying to analyze the dynamics
of the world around us.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
But then it was William F.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
Dunagan at the time, who used to be a top
designer of war games or conflict simulations with the Department
of Defense term who it took me aside afterwards, along
with the number of the other men who had witnessed
my presentation, and they said, well, you said is very impressive,
and we agree with you. We find no reason to
disagree with any of your conclusions.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
You're very astute.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
And they basically told me that I couldn't possibly work
with them because basically I wasn't going to.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Fall into the basically the team.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
And I said, well, why would that be, and they said,
because all of us were really just scam artists. We're taxing,
you know, the American public for what amounts to.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Unimaginable sum.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
It's literally incalculable, based on the myth of Soviet superiority.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
And the fact they're always going to be here.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
And many of these men were science fiction authors, by
the way, men like Jerry Parnelli, who wrote The Mote
in God's Eye, very definitive works in science fiction in
the twentieth century. And Jerry Parnell is another pronunciation of
the individual's name. Larry Niven would be another one. These
were all Department of Defense affiliated people, and they projected

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the Soviet Union as a permanent entity, just a part
of the human condition that would be with us until
we literally stretched out into the stars and expanded into
the universe, that there would always be a Soviet Union.
And of course, when I realized just that these people
were lying through their teeth, that they knew the Soviet

(09:26):
Union was on the version collapse, that they nevertheless kept
pushing it as a thread on behalf of the Department
of Defense, so they keep taxing the American people for.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
A non for basically a non existent threat.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
I realized just how fragile the entire system was and
just how it was all facat the entire consistency of civilizations,
we knew it was paper thin. So that was one
of the motivating factors behind my becoming a publican format
and e league hemorrhage actually fast amounts of information.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
I was never caught.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
Doing it because of a lot of corruption and incompetence
in the United States Department of Defense.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
And ultimately, well, let me ask you, how did you
leak the information? There was no Internet back in those days.
How did you leak it?

Speaker 5 (10:20):
Actually, in those days, what we had was there were
various whistleblower protection agencies that had developed because of the
Watergate affair. And what happened with Watergate was a man
who after that point became more of a role model
to me than the wargame designers and the think tankers was,

(10:43):
of course, the individual who was involved with Watergate, and
he was a former marine. I'm trying to remember his name,
because I'll be quite honest with everyone.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
I normally sleep at these hours, and i.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
Don't so much sleep as I die inaryanimate, so I'm
still oxygenating and caffeinating.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Uh helped me out with this, ed Uh.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
The there was the individual who was involved with BRAND,
which is an acronym for research and development.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
Uh. He leaked the Pentagon papers.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Oh yeah, what a second? Uh boy, I mean they
did a movie about him, The Post.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Uh yeah, but ed no something Burke Yes Elsburg, Daniel Elsburg,
doctor Daniel Elsberg, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
We both should remember him because you know, he's he's
he he leans towards our politics. Really, Daniel Elsberg is
you know, he was very much a hero of the
Lab for obvious reasons because at that time, Uh, the
president was Richard Nixon, who was an arch conservative, some
would say reactionary. He was nothing compared to the alternative

(11:52):
right of today. And uh, Daniel Elsberg, of course I
could relate to him later in life. Uh, because one
of the ways they attacked Daniel was that they rated
his psychiatrist's office and discredited him. At the time, this
was considered a discredit by exposing his PTSD, the fact

(12:15):
that he was being psychiatric psychiatrically treated for post traumatic
stress disorder chrise. These days, someone like myself is very verbal, very.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Open, and.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
I want everyone to know I have been psychiatrically treated
for post traumatic stress disorder, and so I don't consider
it anything to be ashamed of.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
And nowadays you have many people.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
Who try and project or pretend that they have PTSD
in order to give themselves a depth character they otherwise
wouldn't have as a matter of fact, and that is
something to watch out for as.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
Well amongst many people.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
But the real post traumatic stress disorder is not something
anyone would want, and it's a condition that is a
psychological injury.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
Just clarify for everyone, it's not a mental illness.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
So in the days of Nixon, Daniel Elsberg was being
attacked as someone who was mentally ill because he had
leaked the Pentagon papers, But the reality was he suffered
a psychological injury, and post traumatic stress disorder alters the
very shape of the brain shrinks certain areas of the brain,
very similar to Alzheimer's, So it creates a physical distortion

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of your ability to think or.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
Mentate or process.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
So you're as injured the rest of your life as
if you had had a leg or an arm blown
off or both. So depending on how extant the PTSD
is or how severe it is, and there's different gradations
of it, so Daniel Elsberg was also facing well over
one hundred years in jail, and it was only the

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fact that at the very last minute, just prior his sentencing,
they brought in evidence that Nixon had ordered his men
to break into Elsberg's psychiatrist's office and steal his medical records,
and that therefore the evidence presented against him was all
to be dismissed because it was gathered in an inappropriate
and illegal manner. And that's what saved Daniel Ellsberg's ass.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
And so when you speak of myself, I.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
Was working through people who had networked with journalists after
the Elsberg incident, had created the Pentagon Papers scandal, and
they were organizing to protect people who were leaking information,
and through them I managed to expose many things like
the wargames like Operation Northwoods at the time, various other

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wargames in San Francisco where they were literally spraying various
kinds of diseases that were not necessarily fatal, but these
were diseases just being spread to see how many people
would get sick. They could test the efficacy of dispersal
systems for biological weapons. The actually did this over the

(15:05):
city of San Francisco, and of course people did die
because if you throw out something that you feel is
a casual influenza that'll just make your normal adults sick.
There are oftentimes where people who are far more vulnerable
with compromised immuno systems or immune systems that haven't developed,
like infants and senior citistems, that will die. And that's
what happened. Infants and senior citizens did die because of

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these tests. So these gradually were leaked to the public.
But the amazing thing was nobody responded to them. They
became known to academics, they became known to independent researchers
or people who were very good at digging up information,
like ed Opperaman. So that was how I lead to
such information at the time and got away with it, though,

(15:50):
because much of it was records that most of the
Department of Defense never paid attention to, because they just
accumulated reflexively. People would write reports, reports would be collated,
they would be stored, and then after a certain period
of years it'd be destroyed.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
And so because of.

Speaker 5 (16:11):
This real oversight, and so it wasn't like what I
was doing was some major active aspionage. Not to say
it wasn't illegal. It was theft of federal property. So
by all normal definitions of the term, I am a criminal,
just as Elsberg Daniel Olsburg was technically a criminal. So

(16:33):
it's only decades later that I outed myself and went
public because at that point it was far too late.
The government intervening at that point would simply confirm everything
I said and validate what I said. So their best strategy,
which they followed to an extent so far, has been
to ignore myself completely and to try to get everyone

(16:55):
else to ignore myself completely.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
So that essentially is the Douglas te trick that ever
one knows of.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
There's other aspects. I had other careers besides that. After
I got out of the DD, I went into private
security and mercenary worked for almost a decade, and then
I spent a little over a decade caring for my
parents while they were dying, being a senior advocate, a
medical advocate, and that was a third career essentially, and
it almost killed me. It's the hardest thing anyone could

(17:23):
do is to be able care provider, and now my
fourth career is essentially what I'm doing.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
But in order to do what I'm doing and.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
To take credit for much of what I've leaked, because
a lot of people like Ed Opperman will confirm this
that Ad Dopperman for decades was hearing about Operation Northwoods.
He was hearing about things like the experiments in San Francisco.
But of course there was never a credit. There was
no Julian Assange, there was no Edward Snowden, there was

(17:53):
no there's nobody stepping up.

Speaker 6 (17:55):
No, no.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
I actually, Doug not, I had the guy on my
show who did the Premimive Act request and obtain the
Operation Northwoods documents. Good. Yeah, he he just wrote a
book about there's a detailed book about World War Two,
which is not my topic. Yeah, but yeah, I actually
had him on the show. Let me let me ask
you because your originally let.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
Me clarify something who you're saying that though there is
a great difference between the Freedom of Information Act a
teinment of documents, the reason people do that is so
that they can show the public that these documents exist.
Most of the documents you get through the FOI A

(18:38):
are so heavily censored, so heavily redacted as to be
almost useless. Even though what he got I'm certain was shocking,
it's only a fraction of what was And the reason
he knew to ask for it was because of what
I had leaked origionally. Otherwise, how would you know what
to ask for? You understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
Yes, I do want to see what you're saying. Okay,
And like I said, I had the guy on my
show and okay, he never mentioned you. They never do. Hey, well,
let me ask a couple of questions. Now, you were
born in the Philippines. No no.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
I was born in Taiwan, which was north of the
Philippines Archipelago, and it was the Nationalist Republic of China
which relocated to the one hundred islands of Formosa, which
is the Portuguese word for beautiful island. The Spaniards had
overtaken the Philippines Archipelago and the Portuguese had overtaken the
islands of Taiwan, but the Taiwanese people, who consisted of

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both natives such as the Asian version of American Indians
on the islands originally, as well as Chinese communities that
had been extant there for hundreds of years, fought back,
and they were the only colonized peoples to overthrow a
European regime in the history of colonialism. Other indigenous peoples

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had fought back and scored tremendous victories, such as the Zulus,
such as Native Americans for many years, but ultimately all
such peoples were conquered just by sheer numbers and firearms,
et cetera.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
The Timonese were the only people who.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
Successfully overthrew European colonials and re established a indigenous government.
So that's how that stands out in history. Later on,
the nationalists Chinese relocated there. It was part of the
Japanese Archipelago for almost one hundred years, and it was
heavily japanized and culturated into the Empire, and then the

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Chinese moved in as modern Chinese people, the more recent
wave of immigrants when they vacated the mainland when the
communists took over.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
So please continue. My question was what you were going
to make? Yeah, I know, I'm not going to answer.
What time it is for the watch? I love you, dog,
I love it. But listen.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
So you were born in Taiwan. How old were you
when you came to the United States.

Speaker 5 (21:08):
I wasn't that old at all, to tell you the truth,
we were. I was born in nineteen sixty six. We
probably came over around nineteen sixty nine, a very late
nineteen sixty nine, came to San Francisco. The first place
we went to was Upstate New York, where I stayed
for about a year, and then when we went to
San Francisco to escape a very abusive family situation, meaning

(21:32):
my father and my mother had moved in originally into
my grandfather's home his residence in Upstate New York to
take care of him, to be care providers for him.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
But he was so violent.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
He had worked at Eastman Kodak Company for his entire life.
He was severely chemically poisoned systemically throughout his nervous system,
not to the point where he was debilitated physically. Important
to note that the man who developed Kodak chemicals, George Eastman,
whom the company was named after as Kodak, ultimately killed himself.

(22:08):
He committed suicide because he was suffering severe systemic pain
for which there was no treatment or cure or pain
killers that were and he blew his own brains out
because of all the chemicals he was working with all
his life that produced the film industry that we as
we knew it in the United States for many decades,
and so my grandfather was like that, and he was

(22:30):
very abusive and it was very violent. So my family
had ultimately relocated to San Francisco. By the time we
got here was nineteen seventy, and I was still very much,
of course, culturated by my late and sainted mother into
the languages of Chinese and Japanese because she was half
Chinese and half Japanese herself. My father was European American,

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was some Native American blood, and when we came to
San Francisco, I was remersed in the Asian culture spectrum again.
So that was a much healthier environment in many respects,
and my life would have turned out quite differently had
we stayed in the Northeast.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
It was a very different world back then. So what
was your okay? So you you were apport in sixty six.
I was born in sixty two. Well, one question I
have for you is that I recall from your Facebook postings.
I don't know if this is something you want to
keep private, but it was public on Facebook.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
You would post pictures of yourself as a child wearing
women's clothing. Can you explain it? Oh?

Speaker 5 (23:31):
Yeah, the San Francisco of course, my father understood when
he was in the Navy. My father was a career sailor,
and he understood when he moved to San Francisco that
it would be an unusual environment. One of the reasons
people moved to California is to escape not just the

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rest of the United States, but really escaping European cultural
mindsets and paradigms almost completely. Ifornia is part of the
United States strictly by geography, san Francisco goes beyond that
to what many people would think would be oz and
so my father knew he was taking us to a
radically different cultural spectrum than anywhere else in the world,

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but he felt it was worth it to provide at
least a different environment where we wouldn't be judged, because
there would be so.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
Many people here with their own aute and.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
Bizarre behavior patterns that we would not be judged. And
the issue, if you could call it that not as
a negative judgment, was that he also knew that the
city had a huge gay community. And he knew this
because as a sailor the United States Navy, whenever they
found out a sailor was gay, they would basically give

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them what was called a pink discharge they would hold
kind of like a kangaroo court. Marshal basically very quietly
processed them with the minimum of paperwork out of the
Navy as quickly as possible, so they wouldn't have homosexuals
basically going wild or having orgies on the ship, whatever
fears they had, whatever concepts they had of what homosexuality.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
Could lead to, so over literally the centuries.

Speaker 5 (25:15):
It's important to remember that San Francisco and the Barbary
Coast have been here since before there was a United States.
And the oldest building in San Francisco is the Officers
Club in the Presidio Military Base of San Francisco. So
for well over one hundred years, they had been dumping
homosexual men into San Francisco.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
It's just where they would leave them. And so it.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
Developed a large former sailors gay community.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
And my father wasn't here for that.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
He was actually here because he wanted the Asian community
to provide my sister and myself a environment that would
be suitable for our Asian background where we wouldn't be
persecuted or bullied. And because and I'm going to avoid
using the term unfortunately, but because there was a convergence

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of the gay culture in San Francisco as well. Because
of my appearance, I was very much a point of
attraction for gay men, and unfortunately, and this is where
the unfortunately comes in, San Francisco was very much a
place because of the California prison system, which is enormous.
People don't understand this, but the state penitentiary system in

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the state of California is so immense that the highest
paid police force in the entire world is the California
State Penitentiary Guards Union. They are paid so much that
they have the salary equivalents of attorneys or doctors or
lawyers or CPAs. So that's how big the industry is

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of prison systems in California, and many of those people
get parolled into cheap places of course, like San Cisco's
Tenderloin district. So there were many predatory men with homosexual
persuasion based on their years of imprisonment and sex with
other men that attempted to rape myself as I grew up.

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So as a defense against that, I would dress as
a female. Because most men in San Francisco, just by
my experience, this is not to say the way it
is today we're talking about very different San Francisco all
is growing up where the homosexual Joe community was different.
There was also a criminal community that was practicing homosexuality,

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but not homosexual.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
In the gay community sense.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
And this converged into an area where I was either
being hit on all the time or or people were
attempting to rape me. So by addressing as a female,
I was able to avoid all of that. And because
my sister was older than me by about three years
and girls grow up much faster than boys do, all

(28:03):
of my father's clothing was able to fit her in
terms of hand me downs, and all of my mother's
clothing would fit me in terms of hand me downs.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
It just worked out that way.

Speaker 5 (28:12):
My sister was very much sex negative towards men because
of her experiences with our violent grandfather in Upstatement York.
So yes, I'm very public about all of this because
I do try to educate people onto the dysfunctional dynamics
of so much of the United States.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
That they're not willing to talk about.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
Of course, many people are speaking of these sorts of
phenomena now, and that's important, and I feel that my
being open and frank about this sort of.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
Subject has been part of that, part.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
Of that opening up process of the American underbelly of sfunction.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
So hopefully that puts that in some perspective. Now you
got to understand because back in the old days, you know,
when I used to go on to show all the time,
I would get so many questions about you. Dog. One
of the main things I would get emails is that
with questions about you, what do you think about Doug?
About this? What do you think about? And I would say, listen, man,
it's a mystery. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
I don't know how to tell you. But now, okay,
so now you were dressing as a female. Now what
about when you went to school? Did you use a
female name?

Speaker 5 (29:11):
When I went to school, I had the name Douglas Dietrich.
And it's amazing that most of the time the teachers
wouldn't even take note.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
A lot of people don't understand.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
This was San Francisco, and beyond that, it was a
very bizarre time in American history, and a lot of
it had to do with the Vietnam War.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Ed Opperman.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
Of course, as he is saying, he's only a few
years older than I am, and he was a child
of the sixties, and I was born in nineteen sixty six.
The Vietnam War, of course, was winding down around seventy three,
when they were vietnamizing the conflict under Richard Nixon, But
in terms of the actual war itself, it didn't end,

(29:53):
so to speak, for the American mindset, at least until
nineteen seventy five. For the vietname, of course, it never
ended for many reasons, one of them being several Chinese
invasions are attempted invasions of Vietnam after that. But the
main point is that we had the Vietnam War ongoing,
and one of the ways that very liberal, well intentioned

(30:15):
and idealistic, progressive academic professors, one of the ways they
would help young men avoid the draft was to get
them into teaching positions. And that changed the entire nature
of the American educational system. And so when you had
the old days, America had one of the finest educational

(30:35):
systems in the world at the time of John F. Kennedy,
and the backbone of it was a lot of elderly
women and schoolmarms who spent all their time teaching kids
the three basics reading, writing, and arithmetic, all that went
out the window during the Vietnam War because all of
those women were essentially dismissed and replaced in very large

(30:56):
numbers by young male draft dodgers. Now it's not that
this was an evil thing to do, but it had repercussions,
and a lot of these young men were not trained
to teach. They didn't care to teach reading, writing, and arithmetic,
and instead they were introducing topics like sex education, which
was being introduced in schools of that time, was introduced
in almost every grade I was in, from like age

(31:20):
like it had to be from like sixth grade at
least at least, and so we had young men teaching
sex education astrology, not astronomy, but astrology because this is
what they knew.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
That was the vogue at the time.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Witchcraft.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
Nobody questioned my big dressed to them.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
Instead, they were teaching the kids in the sex education
classes about alternative lifestyles.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
So yeah, they would bring the boys up to the
head of the class. And I got to avoid all of.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
This because all the teachers thought I basically thought I
was a girl with a boy's name, and they just said, oh,
it's some Asian thing or something, and maybe his parents
just gave him the wrong name, and so they just
had the other kids go to the front of the class.
You know, a couple of boys together in practice kissing,
just to show that this is not evil, this is
not bad. Now, all of this might be considered a
form of brainwashing and whatnot. It's something I grew up with.

(32:14):
It was the environment in San Francisco, the environment in
the public educational system, the San Francisco Unified school district,
so and it helped me avoid being raped going to
and from the school, going home.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
I was much safer that way. And the interesting thing
was whenever.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
Anyone found out that I was a boy, the repercussions
were usually they would attempt to rape myself, or they
would attempt to basically trying to blackmail me by saying, oh,
I'll tell people.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
You're a boy. If you don't have sex with me,
you'd better have sex with me.

Speaker 5 (32:50):
It was disgusting, But I grew up very cynical about men,
the majority of men. I grew up with the impression
that the majority of American men are far more in
trusting in the domination of a younger man, and that
seems to turn them on far more than sex with woman.
And of course it might have been regional and whatnot,

(33:11):
but I've.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
Noticed something similar in many parts of the world. What
age did you start trussing like a man? Well? When
when did I start dressing at what agent? Well, in
a sense, I never since I never did.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
I always had the ability, of course, to switch roles,
but I became much more casual about switching roles as
I got into basically community college age and where it
was no longer necessary to dress as a girl for
my literal physical safety.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
I didn't need to do that anymore.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
So by the time I was in community college, it
was I was dressing as a male. I was actually
dressing as a male more often by the time I
went into high school. And that's an important point. We
got rid of junior high school during the age that
I was going to school. During the time I was
going to school, we lost an entire grade because they
switched from the junior high school system to a middle
school system, and they established what they called middle school.

(34:09):
So my generation lost an entire grade of education and
we went straight into high school. I went into a
vocational school myself, and which was John O'Connell at the time,
which no longer exists the way it did. There's an
entirely new building called John O'Connell Vocational Institute in San Francisco,
not at the same location as the old one, which
was torn down actually demolished because of many of the

(34:33):
things that had gone down there at that school. But
basically that's when I started dressing as essentially a male.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
Okay, one last question about your address other topics.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
So today though you solely dress as a man, and
do you occasionally also to school dress a woman.

Speaker 5 (34:51):
Oh, I dressed as a woman often really because of
the just of the environment of San Francisco is such
that and also it was part of part of what
I've done for years with the underworld community. Basically, the
other way that I stayed safe to protect myself while
growing up in San Francisco was to.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
Join an ethnic gang.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
And of course in San Francisco, ethnic gangs they're not
simply street gangs. The ethnic gangs in San Francisco, the Sinotongues,
Chinese mafia families. These are the Chinese were tall simply
means hall, like a meeting hall, but it's come to
refer to tongsters or gangsters and the Chinese economy in

(35:35):
San Francisco is largely, or was for many years, largely
an underworld community. That's no longer the case at all,
But at that period of time, I joined the underworld
in order to maintain safety. They protected myself and in
return I had to do things for them, and so
it was very good at trapping men dressed as a female,

(35:57):
and that was something I've done for them for years,
as recently as like last year. I'm getting older. Of course,
it's increasingly difficult for me to do such things, but
it's something that I've done with them throughout my life
and and and not all of that has been in
the United States.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
I've had to.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
Go south of the border to do this at various
times for what we've been dealing with, and I've of course,
uh carried it out obviously successfully till this point in life.
It's not something that I probably can continue much longer, obviously,
but I that's that's one reason why I maintained the

(36:37):
ability to uh to do what I do, and and
and most of it these days it's just for fun,
simply because people are having parties in San Francisco and whatnot,
and it's just that kind of community.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
So it's it's no longer a.

Speaker 5 (36:52):
Deviate, it's it's not a deviate behavioral pattern.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Have you have you spoken about this probably before? So
have you spoken about this publicly before?

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (37:02):
Yes, okay, it's just what's what's amazing to me is
that most people don't seem to.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
Bring it up that often. Okay, it's it's one of those.

Speaker 5 (37:13):
Things where people speak of it, but they don't usually
bring it up in interviews, or they don't usually bring
it up in I'm happy to.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
Speak, Okay, I'm not Okay, I'm not making it uncomfortable
by bringing it up. No, okay, I have one more
question too, because another it's another Actually, everybody always asks
your relationship with Laurian Fenton, right, you'll call it like
your mistress and you're you know, how to what extent
does that go your relationship? I realize Laurian and Fenton

(37:42):
and I are entirely severed. Oh no, I did not
know that. No, Oh yeah, that.

Speaker 5 (37:48):
Was uh yeah, lauriaf It was just a term that
was used from the Asian cultural perspective, from from the
Asian I'll be happy to go into that though, simply
because it's part of uh, the whole revolution radio experience
that turned out the way it did.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
Now, now that's starting to make more sense to me, okay,
because I know she has a lot of influence over there.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
Yes, yeah, oh yeah, and none of it makes any sense.
Mike Gringley hates her. He hates her.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
I've been very public about this on air, by the way,
and that was the one thing that Mike Gringley would
tolerate that I would get on air and talk about
Lori and n Fenn because but before we get.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Into Lauria Fent and Revolutionartia, I just want to carve
some other stuff. And now, how did you come to
work for the Department of Defense?

Speaker 4 (38:35):
Though? Oh yeah, the Department of Defense. That the whole
thing is.

Speaker 5 (38:39):
It took years of reflection to even begin to realize
the dynamics behind how that happened.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
I was observed probably.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
From a very young age, and it was probably around
the time there was a very violent incident that I've
spoken of before, which ultimately resulted in my grandfather, my
father's father, the man who worked with Eastman Kodak dying,
And at that point probably they started observing myself with

(39:13):
the military, because the military basically has shall we say,
there's a kind of a horrible extended family dysfunction in
the military.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
It's very similar to a cult like behavior, and.

Speaker 5 (39:30):
It was different at that time, still far different from
what it is today. And that's because we had the draft,
and the draft didn't end until the seventy five around
seventy three seventy five, And because of that, the military
was not as cultic or as beakish or as Planish
as it is today, where it's truly almost like a moth.

(39:53):
And I could go in for hours about that to
define that term and explain to people why.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
I use that term. It's very a propos.

Speaker 5 (40:01):
Because the military has been involved with narcotics, various other
kinds of trafficking out of Southeast Asia at the time
that I was born, got involved with other things like
the Iran Contra scandal and all the rest of this.
It's something that any investigative journalist can tell you about,
like Peter Lance or Ed Opperman. They can go into
detail about that at any time. But what happened in

(40:23):
San Francisco that led to my working with the Department
of Defense almost certainly shows that I was being observed
from a very young age. Because what happened was there
was a confluence of events that was just alarmingly connected,
and one of them was the assassination of the mayor
of San Francisco. There was a man named Dan White,

(40:46):
and he was a Irish Catholic, very old school reactionary,
Roman Catholic, homophobic. There was a gay individual by the
name of Harvey Milk who became known as the mayor
of Castro Street or that was one of the gay
districts in San Francisco.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
And still is, of course.

Speaker 5 (41:06):
And what happened was that Harvey Milk took the job
of Dan White. Because Dan White was so pathological in
his behavior and so obviously psychotic, he couldn't keep his
job at San Francisco City Supervisor. He was replaced by
this homo special individual who has been accused and apparently
compellingly so, of child molestation. And so people can look

(41:32):
this up, they can vet all this themselves.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
No, yeah, Milk definitely had fifteen year old boy from
fifty year old runway boy from living with him, so
there's no doubt about that.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
Yeah, yeah, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 5 (41:40):
And so Harvey Milk replaced him, and Dan White knew
this and thought that he was being tremendously slighted by
being replaced with a practicing pidophile.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
And we can all understand his.

Speaker 5 (41:54):
Ire, but his response was morelly questionable and controlled.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
Uh. In the city he was probably manipulated.

Speaker 5 (42:03):
And he actually the woman who was a lap secretary
of George Moscone, who was the actual mayor of San Francisco.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
She was named Liam.

Speaker 5 (42:14):
She was of Albanian descent, and she had a religion
with the neighbor of San Francisco, George Moscone, who was straight.
And she was in the offices the day Dan White
walked in to kill these these people, and she was
pushed to the ground flop by why that is he

(42:35):
was searching. He did nothing in termsty people have in
this day and age, a very different world. And he
literally had a gunnis and just walked through the door
of the city hall, pushed turned to the ground, win
and blew out the brains of George Moscone and Dan
and Harvey Milk and any way home.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
I never spent a day in jail. There was a trial. Uh.

Speaker 5 (42:58):
He was led off because he had a literally this
was called the Twinkie defense. He said he ate too
many twinkies and he was on sugar jag and he
couldn't help himself, and so they let him go back home,
where he spent the next seven years in peace. No
one will lesting him. There were, of course, major riots
in the gay community because of his being let off.

(43:18):
They were burning tires, set in fire to gas stations
in San Francisco. It was called White Knight, the gay
riots in San Francisco in protestation of his getting off,
and later on he blew his own brains out, just
like he was under orders.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
It was a little Manchurian candidate stuff.

Speaker 5 (43:34):
And as soon as Moscone was dead without any election,
just by the chain of command, Dianne Feinstein became mayor.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
And she had some questionable times to.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
The Jim Jones call that had led to the Guiana
massacre of many African Americans, most of them from Oakland
in San Francisco, and she had a lot of questionable
things about her. But she became mayoress, and at that
point she became almost like the King of San Francisco
or the Queen of San Francisco.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
It's regnant.

Speaker 5 (44:10):
She was there forever after that, and then became senator
and all the rest of this and is still in
politics today. But her entire career was launched on to
the national level by this assassination. The other impact was
that she wasn't gay, or at least not openly so,
and had no use for her lab secretary, so the
end fifty was immediately fired from city Hall, where she

(44:33):
wound up working at John O'Connell.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
Now, it turned out because.

Speaker 5 (44:36):
Of her Albanian descent, she spoke Schipchieri, the language of Aliria,
the language of the Albanians, and was used by the
Radio Free Europe, which was a branch of the Central
Intelligence Agency to conduct propaganda broadcast to Albania so that
she could reach people behind the Iron Curtain and foment

(44:59):
unrest in the regime of ever Cujac, who was the
dictator of Albania, the Communist actually Mawist dictator of Albania
for till the day died.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
And so she had all these federal connections.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
And while I was at John O'Connell, she said, why
don't you get a summer job at the Pasilian military base,
And she knew all about me. My father, of course,
was in the military all his life. So when he retired,
I was a military dependent, and as a military dependent
of a retiree, that means I had access to any

(45:33):
open military base such as Pasilian Military Base or San Francisco,
access to its medical care like at Letterman Army Medical
Center at the Paciiti of Military Base of San Francisco,
and it's post exchange its PX until I was of
legal age of eighteen, so says I was under eighteen.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
We lost a whole grade and.

Speaker 5 (45:49):
I was going to high school early and I was
about sixteen years of age. She said, watched you get
a summer jump at the library at the Pasadi of Military
base since you have a military dependence ID and you
can enter and exit the military base. And so she
wound up calling in, got me a summer job, and
that's how I became assistant librarian or a librarian's aid,

(46:11):
then ultimately a medical reference technician because I worked with
the Letterman Army Medical Center in terms of their dossier's,
their personnel records in it. They had their own library
as well as a military reference technician dealing with the
overall documents of the Presidio military based library, and as
well I ultimately became a Department of Defense research library

(46:34):
and a full blown librarian. And so that was the
that was my background, and that's how I got the jump. Now,
none of this made any sense at the time, but
now I realized that Lee M. Prifty had connections and
I was probably seduated very intentionally into that job because
it was immediately after that that I was assigned liaison

(46:57):
status to Michael Akino, who was with the Department of
Defense Intelligence.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Before you get to that though, you know, so you
were about sixteen years old when you worked to work
for the DoD.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
And so it was around nineteen eighty two then, And
you said in the eighties where you brief them, they
called in to brief them, and you were briefing these
high ranking guys right now, that would have to be
the generals.

Speaker 5 (47:20):
We're not talking about generals girls are These aren't been
a military rate science fiction riss But.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
Now, but the thing is, now, you must have obtained
your information to brief them based on the data that
you were supposed to be burning, right, I was.

Speaker 5 (47:34):
Doing a lot of documents destruction. Yeah, and that was
as a librarian's aid and ultimately a military reference technician
and of course there was a lot of data that
was access for that, but there was a lot of
data that was not being destroyed.

Speaker 4 (47:49):
It was just on hand for reference. Okay, so when
you were briefing these guys, they didn't say, Hey, Doug,
where are you getting this information from? Aren't you to
be burning this stuff? Does a work like that, it's
just a VERI data. They could all assess that data.

Speaker 5 (48:02):
They're civilians, say, the United States Army and any branch
of service, they don't do anything at some all expansive
level of inclusive activity.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
Everything they do is contracted out to civilians.

Speaker 5 (48:19):
It's not like the US Army manufactures its own tanks
or its own firearm. Everything goes out to a defense contractor.
Nor does the US Army or military do its own thinking.
Everything's contracted out to a paid thinker. And so what
you have are civilians who are basically cooking up the

(48:39):
excuse for everyone to be paying the military all the
money that they do based on all these threats that
are cooked up by the people who are the think tankers. Now,
none of these people, even though they have high level
security clearances because of the position, none of them are
in the military. Person say, so you have this entire

(49:03):
opportunity for espionage and league that that hemorrhages ceaselessly, except
nobody really takes notice. Every once in a while you'll
hear something like, oh, hey, there's some top secret plan
that was left on top of a car and somebody
had to like stop, you know, basically wiped the shoe off,

(49:25):
put something on top of a car, walked away, left
it there. This sort of thing happens all the time.
None of them cared where I got the data from.
They were just no all They were just looking for
my presentation because they knew I worked with the Department
of Defense already.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
They knew that I had access to that.

Speaker 5 (49:43):
Yeah, they knew I was seeking a higher level of
security clearance. So they said, yees, show it's your stuff
and went through the presentation, and then of course they said, well,
we can't have you with us. You're just not right
for the team. We're basically salesmen. We're pitching a myth
and you can go.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
Now.

Speaker 5 (50:03):
That was what short experience I had with any potential
for a career with rand SLASH MIT the Research and
Development slash MASSACHUSETTSITU Technology. By the way, that is that
place where Daniel Elsberg did work. Daniel Elsberg was working
with these men pitching that scam when he had a

(50:23):
crisis of consciousness and decided he was going to morrhage
the Pentagon papers.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
We've all got about finance before the break, So why
don't you get into your connection to Michael Achino.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
Sure.

Speaker 5 (50:36):
Then what happened was Michael l Akino said he want
up myself as a liaison, basically a kind of an
aid and a gopher, if you will, more than anything else.
And when he put in the request, I was assigned
responsibilities with him, and that was how the connection started.

(50:57):
And that was probably one of the more aggravating things
that I experienced with an individual whose name I'm trying
to remember, who was I mean, he doesn't really bear mentioning,
but there was a This has only happened to surprisingly enough,
maybe about once really that I can consciously remember, and
I thank the gods of my ancestors it hasn't happened

(51:19):
more often. But it was with this older guy who
was a member of the alternative information community who approached
me when I was basically becoming public, and he said,
how long were you a member of the church of Satan,
and I said, well, that's the wrong question. You're really
starting off on the wrong foot. I was never a

(51:40):
member of the Church of Satan, and I explained to him,
of course, my affiliation with Michael Akino was strictly professional,
even though that involved increasing pressure from him to convert,
and he very much proselytizes, make no mistake about it,
and was very active with converting a great deal of

(52:03):
the military that.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
Hadn't already been converted.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
People need to understand that Michael Akino would never have
had his position, would never have had his leeway if
there had not already been an entire network of Satanists
in the military long before he made a name for himself.
But to show people the extent of his influence, he
wrote the Chaplain's Handbook for all branches of military service.

(52:29):
If your Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force, or Army or Coastguard,
which is a batch of military service. That Chaplain's Handbook
is written so that anyone who's a rabbi, anyone who's
a Catholic priest, anyone who's an Episcopalian deacon or Protestant pastor,

(52:49):
they're all under orders to step back and stand down
whenever a Satanic chaplain shows up. Satanism is the official
religion of the United States Military all branches of service.
For that reason, Michael, you know, was considered the military
chaplain for all branches of service, the high Chaplin of
Satanism for all branches of service. That's why he had

(53:09):
access to Air Force bases. People have met him on
Air Force basis, naval bases. He was allowed access to
all bases of all branches of service. As of course,
admittedly any officer is, but he was active as a chaplain,
ministering anywhere he went, wrote the Chaplain's handbook so people
would understand to bow before him and withdraw. And for

(53:31):
that reason you see the legacy in documentaries that are
made such as the Dark Side of Aldura and The
Dark Side of Aldurra is about the Iraq conflict.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
Before we get into that, we're about to come up
to a break, why don't you tell the audience where
they could find your website and how they can get
a hold you, because we're coming up to a break,
and then we'll finish when we get back. Sure, Douglas
Tetrick dot com.

Speaker 5 (53:53):
Everybody just hit Douglas tetrick dot com and you'll you'll
find what you need. And otherwise you can just look
up Douglas Dietrick on any search engine or on YouTube
and I'm ubiquitous.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
I'm all over the net. And anyhow, and what is
this one? CD think of what is dddietrick dot com?
Is that you as well?

Speaker 5 (54:16):
I'm sorry D d Ditricht dot com used to be me. Yeah,
it was a website that we created after I severed
with Lorian Ann Fenton so she couldn't take the Douglas
Dietrick dot com and use it for something else. Once
that went free again, the u r L we locked
it down and once it was free again, we finally
I did free, but it was like in frozen status.
I'm activating it again thanks to the help of a

(54:38):
wonderful and anonymous mocky benefactress who has helped me immensely
with re establishing some of these things.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
Now we are are up and running Douglas.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
Ditrick dot com. And when will your show be on
American Freedom Radio.

Speaker 5 (54:52):
We'll be on this Monday and starting from next week, unless,
of course Jordan Maxwell needs some accommodation, I will all
of course make room for Jordan Maxwell to have whatever
he wants.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
Until we find out otherwise.

Speaker 5 (55:06):
I'm going to be on Monday and Wednesday six pm
to eight pm Pacific daylight time starting next week, right
after this weekend, and that'll be about a nine What
time would that be about nine to ten? Yeah, about
nine pm to eleven pm Eastern daylight time Mondays and Wednesdays,

(55:29):
and a couple emissions. We're moving critical emissions over here,
and I'm so glad to be here. Hopefully at Opperaman
gives me a time to a chance to finally break
down how we're gonna in front of all of you
about my As soon.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
As they come back to the break, we'll be back
with mar Douglas Diatrit right after his mesage.

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Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
I believe it's aid six pm, Doug. Oh yes, sir, Okay,
you got to write it down. Now, let's get into
the whole stuff, the juicy gossip that everybody's looking to hear. Now.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
The first question I got for is this the whole
fallout with Lauren Fenton, Because if you recall, I've been
telling you to get away from that woman for years since.

Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
The day I met you. Okay, all right, And there
was all kinds of crazy stuff going on. She had
your passwords and she was reading your guype and stuff
like that. What the hell was going on with that?

Speaker 10 (01:02:03):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
Well, the entire.

Speaker 5 (01:02:07):
The entire relationship developed as essentially part of my survival
strategy to prevent far more graver incidents from taking place
in my life.

Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
On just a chronic and repeated basis.

Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
When I was involved with the Department of Defense for
almost a decade, much of that time was consumed by
my liaison with Michael Lakino. And again I need to
reemphasize this so that people understand it. It was a
professional relationship, had nothing to do with a belief in

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terms of a sympathy with his cause. Rather, it had
to do with my professionally having to become intimately acquainted
with his cause and knowledgeable of it in order to
professionally serve his needs under the kind of responsibilities that
I had been granted. And I had hopes and dreams

(01:03:07):
of ultimately becoming a career either defense librarian.

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
There was the bigger dream was to be inter a
think tank.

Speaker 5 (01:03:16):
Since that was so disappointing, I became pretty much a
subversive and gradually began to worm my way out of
the system and ultimately, of course left the Department of Defense.
It was an odd severance as well, and it was
not complete and not total because I went back to

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work for a year after being out for almost a year.
And they, again, a lot of people have a difficult
time understanding this, and they think of this world as
somehow professional quote unquote in the sense of people who
are somehow exemplary or somehow upstanding. It's professional in the
sense that mobsters would be professional. Actually, I would say

(01:04:01):
mobsters probably just exhibit a higher degree of professionalism in
the exemplary sense, in that they at least have a
family sense of loyalty, whereas that you don't have that
with it. It's just a lot of incompetent people or
corrupt people who are taking advantage of taxpayer dollars. And

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I would dare say that every day you look out
that window and you don't see mass rape and cannibalism
right in front of your eyes on the city streets
is a miracle. It just it's so dysfunctional that I
honestly nothing happens in any productive sense whatsoever unless it's
by accident.

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
But that's a question. Was that Lauren Fenton had this
prolo real life, She had all your passwords and stuff.
This was due to.

Speaker 5 (01:04:47):
It was due to the fact that when I was
dealing with Michael Akino, after getting out of this environment,
he still had a great impact on my life because
at that point he had realized I had basically betrayed him,
and the safety that I had was. I especially checked

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out of the human world after I began taking care
of my parents for almost about a decade, during which time,
as my parents it became inevitable they were going to die,
that they were going to pass on to transition. I
began to publicly out myself. I began to appear with

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just a little interviews at conferences.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
I instigated this all on my own.

Speaker 5 (01:05:39):
At that point in time, I met Laurien and Ann
Fenton and pretty much realized she was affiliated with Michael Aquino. Now,
ed Opperman is absolutely correct. He never trusted her, and
many people didn't. Everybody could see there was something inherently
wrong with her.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
They couldn't understand I was involved with her.

Speaker 5 (01:06:01):
The first thing that most people would say when I
said I severed with Laurian ed Fenton.

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
Was took you long enough? You know that sort of attitude.

Speaker 5 (01:06:09):
Now, the reason I was with her and she had
all that was because she worked with Michael Achino. I
would never have gotten my position at Revolution Radio but
for her pitching me to Mike Greenley as a remotely
controlled individual of Michael Achino. So the entire Revolution Radio
was set up as controlled opposition. And when Mike Greenley,

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who hates Laurian ed Fenton, has maintained her there over
the years. One of the things that he would tolerate,
as I said, was openly defaming her as people would say,
or basically exposing her. And I would quite blunt about
it that she's simply a tool of Michael Achino. And
basically one of the reasons I stayed involved with her

(01:06:57):
and allowed her that much control was so that Michaelino
would get fed just entire rivers of pure nonsense and
get misdirected.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
He would be misinformed, and that would require her to
have your passwords and to read all your Skype messages.

Speaker 5 (01:07:13):
Yes, because otherwise he would not be convinced he was
in control of myself.

Speaker 4 (01:07:19):
Okay, And there was something about a life There was
a life issue. There's a life insurance policy too, right.

Speaker 5 (01:07:24):
Oh yeah, she originally my life insurance policy, my Marine
Corps life insurance was made out to Lori nan Fitt.
Of course, what I severed with her, that changed immediately,
so that she wouldn't be tempted to cash in by
attempting something. But you know, not that she's physically dangerous,
but It's just one of those things you do as
a precaution, you might as well take the temptation away.

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She's that desperate where she would ultimately attempt almost anything.
But she was organizing conferences with the quote unquote super soldiers,
whom I hate that title, that term. These are basically
super victims, and she basically The interesting thing about Mike
Gringley put this into some perspective with the Revolution radio

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and how it dysfunctions. Mike Gringley is very similar but
entirely different from Richard Allen Miller, who's a wonderful human being.
But Richard Allen Miller, I don't know if you know
him or interviewed him.

Speaker 4 (01:08:24):
I've heard the name nine of it.

Speaker 5 (01:08:25):
He tried to tread to do the show had one,
Oh okay, well, Doctor Richard Allen Miller is someone who supposedly,
purportedly worked at Area fifty one or very high security
clearance kinds of areas, facilities where usually the scientists and
engineers who work there have their families living with them.
They're like a military base, and what they have is

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like instead of military families, you have entire families of
engineers and physicists, et cetera, whose families live on site.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
And well, the thing is that seventy minutes. You know,
like if we get into Richard Allen Forever, he's.

Speaker 5 (01:09:04):
An example of I'm trying to explain what happened to
Mike Ringley in his thought process.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
And I first I'd like to get into because I
know that. But first of all, I know that a
Keno claims that he's never met you, he's never heard
of you, right, And there was with some behind the
scenes stuff that went on with you and me and
Lauren and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
And it seemed to me that she was kind of
nervous about a Kno at that time, and she was
afraid of him. But you're saying, yeah, that was a
fear of him, Yes, but that was the only act
that she was really actually working with him. Oh yeah,
he pays a rent. He pays three thousand dollars a month.
He pays her rent. How do you know this? I'm sorry,

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how do you know?

Speaker 10 (01:09:49):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
God? She said as much. Okay, And she actually was
in fear he would stop.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
And she booked a Keno onto Revolution Radio with Sean
David Morton.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
She was one of the factors behind it. Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:10:01):
The other one was a lady named Vaubart, went by
the name of Vaubert in the chat room.

Speaker 4 (01:10:06):
Oh yeah, Albert. I believe her name was Vera Albert.

Speaker 5 (01:10:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
I had problems with her too. Yeah, I had a
lot of problems with her to a very strange woman. No,
how was she involved with a Kino Vaubart? Okay, So
this is what happened with the Mike Gringley. This, this
is the point I was making about the mentation process.
Mike Gringley came from a background of some very high
technical expertise. There's no denying that for a period of

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time Mike Gringley changed the entire nature of warfare. Uh
And Mike Gringley did this by during the height of
his mental capacity as a younger man.

Speaker 5 (01:10:41):
He's not that old. He designed a putric acid sensor.
With putric acid is human sweat. And so what they
were able to do with this technology was they were
able to sew it from the air like hairsone land mines,
like an airplane flying overfield and dropping all kinds of
cluster bombs that it would be safe, for instance, not explosive,

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but waiting like land mines, and then you would destroy
a population's capability to farm without without killing themselves, and
you could starve them out.

Speaker 4 (01:11:17):
And it was weapons like that. And where do you
get this from that Ringley had anything to do with this? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:11:23):
Ringley he developed this putric acid sensor that forced men
to change the entire nature of warfare on the ground
by being constantly in motion so that their sweat wouldn't
be sniffed out and then they wouldn't suffer directed at
artillery attacks. We didn't have drones in those days, right
at this time?

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
How could we look this up and verify that Ringley
had anything to do with this from his own words? Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:11:47):
No, I saw records that he had done this when
I was add librarian, So I had known of Mike Ringley.

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
You okay, you know this Mike Ringley before you went
to Revolution Radio. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:11:56):
I knew of him, not personally. I didn't know it personally,
but I knew him. He was credited with developing this technology.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
Well, how old is he? How old is Ringland? He's
not that old. I mean he's maybe a few years.
He's my age. He's my age, right, he's my age.

Speaker 5 (01:12:14):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
The thing is, okay, I know we're the same age
pretty much. That look at me looks he's like he's
half dead. That looked pretty good. Now the thing is that, well,
then how could this be? Then he would have to
be like eighteen at the time you were down there
reading this. He designed us when he was eighteen years old. Yeah,
that was when he was at the height of his
medical capacities. And he says this on the air, that
he's he's design this, then I'm sorry. Has he ever

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publicly declared that he's designed this sweat thing you talk about? Oh? Yeah,
he was.

Speaker 5 (01:12:41):
In fact, he never actually spoke of it until I
brought it up on air and he was he had
he was impressed that I knew about it. I mean,
he may have spoken of it casually with his staff,
he never really mentioned it on air, that's right. Little
he can remember. This was when I was VIGI about
doctor Richard Allen Mill. When these people are in these environments,

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they go through a scanner that they're told he is
a security scanner to make certain they're not taking their
work home, because they don't want people smuggling out plutonium
or blueprints or something in their pocket, even accidentally or
absent mindedly.

Speaker 4 (01:13:18):
So they say, you go through the screener.

Speaker 5 (01:13:20):
What they're really doing and I saw the blueprints for this.

Speaker 4 (01:13:23):
What they're really.

Speaker 5 (01:13:24):
Doing is they're subjecting the frontal lobe of their brain
to basically a scrambler. And what happens is these scientists
were working on these sites like Area fifty one. This
is what happened to doctor Richard Allen Miller, is that
whatever he was working on propulsion system, whatever he goes
to that scanner, he could go home just a few
blocks away within this facility, because they're built like city

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blocks and living communities. They built like residential GATD community
and except of course they got massive security, and he
would go home to his wife, our kids. Any scientists
like this or technician, and they could literally say, so
what'd you do at work today? And the individual in
question will simply go blankets, say I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:14:03):
Remember, so when you went when you started here, he'll
literally not remember.

Speaker 5 (01:14:07):
Now after years of explosure to this, it creates an
Algeimer's effect. So all these engineers, all these physicists and
technicians are all considered utterly expendable. But the Department of Defense,
and what happens is they become train wrecks.

Speaker 4 (01:14:21):
Richard al Miller's the ni okay, but let me ask
a question.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
The thing is that because when you you and me
were friends over Revolution Radio, you never mentioned this to
me that Ringler was involved in this kind of stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:14:34):
Never thought that you were, you know, I didn't think
it was relevant.

Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
It's it's like one of those things where it's like
you never, okay, but it wouldn't. It didn't trouble you
that he had this kind of background and deep intelligence
and stuff like that, and now he's claiming to run
a whistleblower type radio station, yeah, which it never really was,
you know, which it never really is. There's all kinds
of stuff on there that's total crap. Yeah you know
what I mean, yeah, right.

Speaker 5 (01:15:04):
Or it's right wing you know, propag you know, for
the Bundanes and stuff. But what happened was he was
exposed to this because of what he was working on,
and it has effect. The difference is this is why
they are exact opposites. It's like Alzeimer's. If you're inherently
a nice person and you develop Alzeimer's, you present a
nice affect.

Speaker 4 (01:15:24):
Even in decay.

Speaker 5 (01:15:25):
That's kind of like Richard Allen Miller, who's very hard
for him to stay focused with Mike Gringley since he's
inherently a horrible person. As he degenerates, his horrific side
becomes more and more pronounced and continually lashes out and
acts out. He also suffers from diabetes. He also suffers
from epileptic seizures. He also, I suspect strongly has suffered

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multiple strokes.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
Has any of that been confirmed though, I know it's
talked about, but diabetes and epilepum but has any that
ever been confirmed by anybody who really knows.

Speaker 8 (01:15:59):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (01:15:59):
Yeah, you know for a fact he has diabetes because
he got definitely sick when basically he had like forgive me,
it's glucose or something that diabetics use, and they gave
him an.

Speaker 4 (01:16:12):
Expired badge, So he had a badge that was.

Speaker 5 (01:16:16):
Expired and he was employing that and got definitely sick.

Speaker 4 (01:16:20):
I know for a fact. And you witnessed this, or
do you know someone who witnessed this? He told me
he told you, right, I said, okay, right, well okay,
so we have it from his word that he says, okaish,
I don't believe anything says tighty true. Don't believe what
he says about it.

Speaker 5 (01:16:35):
I believe that just by the fact that I was
cock cold, he would wake up with his face on
the floor and I would.

Speaker 4 (01:16:41):
Wake up with his face on the keyboard.

Speaker 5 (01:16:42):
I mean literally, this happened when I was on air,
where suddenly all this like gibberish came out on the Skype.

Speaker 4 (01:16:49):
Fuck And I was like, what you know? And I said,
what's going on?

Speaker 5 (01:16:54):
Finally I was able to contact him during the break,
similar to what we have going most of our hosts
on American Freedom Radio, they can talk to each other
via Skype when the promotions are on normally not without
oppamen because he's got something different. But like griegally, when
I was able to finally speak to him, he was
just coming too and I said, what is all this,
GiB What are you trying to tell me?

Speaker 4 (01:17:15):
I knew something was wrong, and he.

Speaker 5 (01:17:16):
Said, oh, I fell down on my face and I
was rolling it all over the keyboard because I was spasming.
So against diabetes, he's got epileptic seizures.

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
It's just awful.

Speaker 5 (01:17:28):
I can't imagine how long are he's going to be
with us, But I don't want to be there for
the deck that Revolution Radio will die once he dies,
because he controls it with micromanagement.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
So what brought about your falling out with Lauran Fenton,
your severing times with me? I'm sorry? What brought about
you severing ties with Lorian Fenn?

Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
Oh? Well, of course you're stealing everything. That was her job.

Speaker 5 (01:17:52):
Her job from Michael Lakino was to make certain that
she destroyed as much of my potential as possible. So
I had to allow Michael Lakino to determine conclude she
was doing that. This prevented repeated assassination attempts or something
very serious from being done.

Speaker 4 (01:18:08):
Let me ask you a question. Let me ask a question.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
We were there at the super Soldi summit together, right
and then we met in person now and I saw
you having to go to her and ask her for
money for food and stuff like that?

Speaker 4 (01:18:19):
Right now, Why don't you just come to me and say, ed,
get me out of here.

Speaker 5 (01:18:24):
Oh come on, now, do you know what happens to
most people who have tried that.

Speaker 4 (01:18:28):
Take a look at the super Soldiers.

Speaker 5 (01:18:29):
Take a look at for one thing, It makes one
look incredibly vulnerable, and that alone tends.

Speaker 4 (01:18:35):
To discredit a person in the public eye.

Speaker 5 (01:18:38):
The idea was to look as if I were pathologically
dependent on this individual, so that I looked as if
I at least were contained. The idea was to make
it look as if I were contained, so that of
course placated a kino to the point where no drastic

(01:18:58):
action was done. Now let me put this into some
perspective for people, so people can understand how serious this is.
With both Shawn David Morton and Michael Hemingson. When Ed
Opperman had the misfortune of suffering the North Korean experience
of revolution radio, he was there at a time when
Michael Hemingson was still alive. Michael Hemingson, of course, was
someone who was an author of erotica, a softcore porn

(01:19:21):
that could be sold on mainstream outlets like Barnes and Noble.

Speaker 4 (01:19:25):
But he was also a pornographic historian.

Speaker 5 (01:19:28):
He would take pornographic book covers and anthologize them as.

Speaker 4 (01:19:34):
A kind of art that would otherwise be lost.

Speaker 5 (01:19:36):
I always appreciated him for this because I myself had
been so heavily involved as a younger individual when I
got into commercial illustration with pornographic.

Speaker 4 (01:19:44):
Illustration so I could appreciate what he was doing.

Speaker 5 (01:19:46):
But Michael Hemingson became an investigator of the accault and
his show was the Art of Dreaming on Revolution Radio.
And he began to write a book on the Templo
Set Michael Kino Satanic Church. And when he wrote the book,
it was co authored by Don Webb, the heir apparent
of Michael Aquino at least at that time.

Speaker 4 (01:20:07):
And then what.

Speaker 5 (01:20:09):
Happened was he began to suddenly, for whatever reason I
don't know, tried to inside flame war between Michaelo and myself.

Speaker 4 (01:20:19):
This was after his book was completed, because.

Speaker 5 (01:20:20):
He felt he had a grasp on the Temple of
Set and then he began to try and provoke myself
with Michael Kino into a flame war. And I told
him this, what you're doing is extraordinarily dangerous. And he said, well,
we can make Aquino lose his pension.

Speaker 4 (01:20:36):
And I said, it doesn't work like that.

Speaker 5 (01:20:37):
And I told him, I said, you're you're risking your
life and if you continue this, you will.

Speaker 4 (01:20:42):
Die, and of course he died. You wait a second,
you've seen evidence that Michael Hemison, which is not his
real name, by the way, that's his pen name you've
seen evidence that he's dead. Do you believe he's not well?

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
I actually called that Mexico when that whole story came
out about him dying in some hotel down in Mexico.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
I called the US consulate down in Mexico. I tried
to confirm his death, and I could not. I've never
seen him, I've never seen anything. I've never seen anything
to confirm this guy's death. Well, I'll tell you what happens.
Our listeners know what happened.

Speaker 5 (01:21:17):
I certainly never heard from m after that, and I was,
of course relieved because I didn't need the grief. He
was essentially becoming basically a kind of a stark and
a basically a gang starter.

Speaker 4 (01:21:30):
He was becoming like a harassment agent.

Speaker 5 (01:21:33):
You know, he was leaving phone calls, he was being provocative,
he was trying to he was doing the same with
Michael Achino.

Speaker 4 (01:21:40):
None of this boat as well. By the way, and.

Speaker 5 (01:21:43):
When he says like, why don't you like, why don't
you kill Michael Achino?

Speaker 4 (01:21:46):
And this is the kind of naive question.

Speaker 5 (01:21:48):
That I get from people that that's just beyond preposterous,
that it's one of those things where this is not
a film I'm not Ernold Schwarzenegger. Well, Michael Achino and
I have is like a chess game, and it's a
chess game with blood, and it is not something where
the players kill each other. Chess players do not pull
out guns or knives or throttle each other.

Speaker 4 (01:22:10):
Across the board.

Speaker 5 (01:22:11):
It's the pieces that guy Michael Hemingson made himself a
playing piece. He put himself on the board and he
was taken on. And in terms of Michael Hemingson for
what is worth, the man was and I'm not quote
unquote defaming or slandering this individual. Anyone who knew HI
knew this. He was openly bisexual. He had a young

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daughter who was the product of a marriage with a
Roman Catholic Mexican woman who obviously did not approve of
his lifestyle wanted the daughter back with her, And he
was living with his daughter while living with two other
women and having men and women visit them, and he
was having open sex with these two female partners of
his and whoever would visit, and so ultimately the mother

(01:22:58):
got the daughter back in her custody. He told myself,
and he told anyone who knew him, he was never
ever going to go down to Mexico to try and
reclaim his daughter because.

Speaker 4 (01:23:08):
He knew that would be the death of him.

Speaker 5 (01:23:10):
Well, he wound up dead in Mexico, and the coroner's
office in Mexico reported that he had fallen from.

Speaker 4 (01:23:16):
Yeah, the coroner's office didn't report that. That was some
hotel manager that supposedly contacted Mike Ringley because he found
some kind of revolution radio document in the in the
hotel room in contacted. That whole story is so far
holes And by the way, too.

Speaker 5 (01:23:31):
That's even more suspect, right, that makes it even more suspect.

Speaker 4 (01:23:38):
Let me tell you something. It was the coroner's office,
so I just know took that, but I contact, I
contacted the corner's office. But the thing is too is
I had some interactions with regarding his custody and all
his problems down there, Okay, and he had he had
many reasons to disappear and stage's own disappearance, which I've

(01:23:58):
never been convinced this guy's actually spirit. And another question
I have for you is that you had all these
problems with him, but then after he's dead, you go
on the air saying about what a great guy he was.
Michael Emerson, Yes, you and Lauren Fenn about how wonderful
it was, but it was probaying crocodile tears about this guy.

Speaker 5 (01:24:15):
I put it up basically, shall I say some banners
commemorating is I said, yeah, he was a nice guy
because I tried to remember the positive things.

Speaker 4 (01:24:25):
Okay, yeah, okay struck me out as well. So what
is it the cause of what?

Speaker 5 (01:24:30):
Well, when somebody dies, what am I supposed to do
piss all over the you know what?

Speaker 4 (01:24:36):
Well, if you piss on him and they're alive, you
know But anyway we can disagree on that now.

Speaker 5 (01:24:42):
So well, well, just to finalize that here, because I
think it's an important point. I will stand by the
fat that the majority of the time that I knew
Michael hemingson, he was involved in a dark path that
would have taken him ultimately perhaps towards le destinations, because
he was involved with Farrell House Publishing in San Francisco,

(01:25:04):
which was run by Adam Parfrey, and they did books
that they published on Satanism. The Temple said the uh oh,
the Church of the Final Judgment.

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
I'm trying to remember that the other.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
Federal House actually has process publishing. They have as Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:25:21):
Yeah, they And so now that's a whole nothing too,
because you know, he tried to hook me up.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
They wanted me to do a book, and he hooked
me up with them too. They wanted me to write
a book because did I wanted Tom to do with it?

Speaker 4 (01:25:30):
So yeah, yeah, he was for you. I don't sure.
He definitely was hooked up with them and a lot
of other things he was up to.

Speaker 5 (01:25:38):
Yeah, But because of his involvement with pornography, which was
an industry I had been involved with, I could relate
to him. I could relate to the fact that he
was trying to preserve some element of.

Speaker 4 (01:25:47):
History that would otherwise disappear. So I try to see
the positive and what he did.

Speaker 5 (01:25:51):
So I think back on that before he turned, before
he came, whatever he became, and then disappeared. So and
when he disappeared, of course was no longer shall we say,
bothering me? Why shouldn't I say nice things about him
and just say, okay, ye it was you know, I
tried to remember the nice aspects of him. I mean,
at least for that period of time, you know, at
least give somebody a grace period after what they used

(01:26:13):
to say in Africa is at least wait until the
vultures are fed.

Speaker 3 (01:26:17):
Here, turn we're done, like again thirty minutes rearly thirty
minutes left, So like, now, what is it?

Speaker 4 (01:26:26):
What cause it? When did you leave with the Lauria
in Fenton? When did you just put apart with Lauren
Fan It was a long time ago.

Speaker 5 (01:26:32):
Honestly, it feels like forever at this point, but I
was involved with Revolution Radio for over half a decade,
so I severed ways with her fairly shortly after you
and I at physically met.

Speaker 4 (01:26:44):
It was it was shortly after that conference.

Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
I mean written couldn't have been it was like a
year because I didn't even get a show on Revolution
Radio till after that conference, so it was like I
was on there at least a year and a half.

Speaker 4 (01:26:57):
Let me see, three four years ago.

Speaker 5 (01:26:59):
It's keep in mind, I've done my best approach everything
I can from my mind about the experience.

Speaker 4 (01:27:04):
So that you too, she's no longer your manager. You
got back all your paperwork and you signed you all
that stuff that she had. You took over at the
control of your own life, right, yeah, yeah, but keep
in mind that was nothing that was legally binding.

Speaker 5 (01:27:15):
I mean, even the insurance policy, the Marine Corps life
insurance policy is something you can change with a single signature.
So when I signed over to her, I easily signed
back to somebody else. But Lord Lee Solomon took over
her position for the spin Light feels like forever now.
About three or four years is what it feels like.

(01:27:37):
I mean, you were on Revolution and Radio for a
fairly short period of time before you just.

Speaker 4 (01:27:41):
Finally had it. It was about a year and a half. Yeah,
about a year and a half.

Speaker 5 (01:27:45):
So it was during that period of time I was
severing with her or or you know, because the process
was always ongoing for me, where I was like stringing
her along and preparing to leave it. It's in my
mind it's like a process that happened forever ago, because
I was never really someone who liked her. She was
such a repulsive individual, and her memories of course showed

(01:28:08):
that she was heavily controlled and manipulated.

Speaker 4 (01:28:12):
Everything that she spoke about indicated that.

Speaker 5 (01:28:16):
And I could go into that in detail well in
terms of Sean David Morton to show people the involvement.
Sean David Morton was somebody who ripped off so many
people for so much money. He made it into criminology textbooks,
so people can actually veet this, they can look at
this up. Sean David Morton made it into actual criminology textbooks.
And one of the things about Mike Gringley, this is

(01:28:38):
the odd aspect of that I'm trying to talk about
with the mind degeneration kind of the mind's wife. Mike
Greenley was convinced he runs his own life. He's convinced
he runs his own life.

Speaker 4 (01:28:48):
He was adamant in such a way that you had
to believe.

Speaker 5 (01:28:54):
He was sincere that he never wanted Michael Aquino on
Revolution Radio, ever, that he would terminate anyone who interviewed
Michael Lochino. Uh, this is what makes Sean David Morton
instidy interesting. So Sean David Morton was wanted by the
I R S, he was wanted by the Federal Exchange,
He was won by various authorities for all the means

(01:29:14):
Donald's literally millions.

Speaker 4 (01:29:15):
He ripped off people's entire life saving.

Speaker 5 (01:29:18):
And what happened was that one day with Brinley said,
oh God, I'm so sick, I'm going to take a
day off. Then Sean David Morton said, I'm really sick too,
I got the influenza too. I'm going to take a
day off, and he told Mike Bringley he was going
to play a rerun, and then Mike Brinley retired that
day and.

Speaker 4 (01:29:38):
Just checked out.

Speaker 5 (01:29:39):
During that time, Vaubert made certain that Michael Lochino came
on with Sean David Morton.

Speaker 4 (01:29:45):
That was the only time, at least till this point.

Speaker 5 (01:29:47):
In history where Michae Latino has ever been interviewed on
Revolution Radio and uh, and Mike Gringley was totally out
of it. Now, I protested heavily and nothing. However, wasn't
a fire Sean day Morton. But I do know that
Mike Gringle did ed monisham and did tell everyone in
the staff, don't ever have that individual line again. So
Mike Bringley at least was convinced this was the aspect

(01:30:09):
of the controlled opposition. Mike Gringley's brain is generate, but
he's he's also convinced he's doing all this himself. But
in reality, his entire station is controlled opposition. And they've
gone so far as to introduce in studio B. They
couldn't put it on the same studio with myself because
it would look too glaringly obvious. But in Studio B,

(01:30:29):
the junior studio which nobody listens to, they put on
Clyde Lewis five days a week and Richard Dolan, who
were both heavily recommended by Michael Lokeino. Clyde Lewis, he
is an open Satanist, and I've spoken of this, and
of course you've got Richard Dolan, whose books are always
promoted by Michael Lachino, and they brought them on Studio
B on Revolution Radio. Their Christine ran A Hart, who

(01:30:52):
I know you remember, of course, and she, of course,
her earliest memory in life was being physically violated by
Michael Lochino. She's gone on record about this, so it's
not it's not spreading rumors. She's been on record about
this several times, and of course she's still much under
his control. She was mercilessly exploited by Miles Johnston and

(01:31:12):
now she's kind of trying to be as neutral as
possible and doing readings and whatnot. But she was basically
a penetration agent for Michael Keino. She got on because
I brought her on to Revolution Radio. Because she came
to me, saying that she was looking for help, that
she wanted to escape the influence of Michael Kino.

Speaker 4 (01:31:27):
At that point, I was totally severed with Lauri and
Ann Fenton, so like, no, no, you weren't. No, you weren't.

Speaker 3 (01:31:31):
Because I remember warning her about the Fenton and she
talked to me after she had a hold.

Speaker 5 (01:31:36):
She might have been under the impression I was still
involved with Lauri and Ann Fitton.

Speaker 4 (01:31:39):
But you can ask anywhere I was there. Yeah, anyway,
this isn't a major.

Speaker 5 (01:31:47):
Yeah, Fenton was still very much as strung along for
like I said, years, laurian N Fenton maintained a kind
of delusion that she was under control. Certainly there were
people that I wanted to think that in general, but
anyone can tell you who's been listening to me for years.
The person who most people think was controlling or dominating

(01:32:08):
my life was the managers. You never heard of Laura
Solomon and uh so I heard of Laura.

Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
At least she actually used She gave me her name
is a reference one time I was taken out a loan.

Speaker 4 (01:32:18):
Their name is a reference. How many years ago was that?
Five years ago? I remember that I got a good
memory that I don't like you now, But how did
you do a lot of drugs? Yeah? But you know what,
I got to tell something you would you write down
the questions when I answered a question, because because you
kind of go off on a little TANGI little bunny
trail then, but you always come back to the question

(01:32:39):
like you remember the questions. Very very interesting interview technique
you have there. But anyway, back to the subject at hand,
when did what day? Did you? Several times with Lauren Fan.

Speaker 5 (01:32:50):
Can't given I really kept track of it. This process
that went on for a long time. It was when
it finalized, was at some point she had to be
told she was fired by laurd Lee Solomon. Okay, Well,
if Lord Lee Solomon were on air with myself, she
might remember, but she's been through so much stress lately
she might not either.

Speaker 4 (01:33:10):
It's it was h Yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (01:33:13):
Couldn't tell you, okay, then it must have been a
lot a lot of my time trying to forget every Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:33:18):
Then it must have been uncomfortable for you then, because
she does have a lot of power over at Relution Radio,
because she brought so many hosts, over half the hosts
she brought in she did I did.

Speaker 5 (01:33:26):
That's important to emphasize was that essentially Revolution Radio was
established by Lauri and Anthen. That's that's there's there's no
doubt about that. And it was established as controlled opposition. Uh.
And I did my best to sabotage it and turn
it into a living nightmare for Michael Achino. And one
of the ways that he when I began severing with

(01:33:48):
Lauri and Ann Fenton, christinjo and Heart was introduced as
almost like a takeover. And so now bear in mind,
I do need to emphasize this. Christina Anna Heart is
she depends on how you interpret it. She could be
seen as a victim. She could be seen as a
knowing agent. But my impression in the time that I

(01:34:10):
spoke with her in intimate detail for hours at a time,
personally and privately, was that she is almost like a victim.
But she's very much still involved with the Kenot and
speaks to him regularly.

Speaker 4 (01:34:23):
She wanted vociferously and vocally to bring.

Speaker 5 (01:34:26):
Him on as an interview subject on Revolution Radio for years,
but I constantly ran to Mike Gringley and he threatened
to fire her or she ever did that. That policy
will probably still hold as long as Mike Gringley is alive.
It's one of the few vestiges of control that he
feels he has.

Speaker 4 (01:34:43):
Okay, let's move on from the heart. Did you have
that now? What caused you to? What happened?

Speaker 3 (01:34:48):
What was the last Wednesday or Thursday? It just happened
like the fifteen two days ago? They cut you off
the air.

Speaker 4 (01:34:53):
What happened? Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:34:54):
I was building up for months and months, billing up
for years. Mike Greenley is got.

Speaker 4 (01:35:03):
The man is.

Speaker 5 (01:35:04):
We've already gone over some of his medical issues, and
they're obviously impacting. Is thinking he's hostile, he's paranoid, and
he's just very greedy and very petty, and worst of all,
he's the reason he is not to be a character
of any sympathy is because he is a merciless exploitationist.
And everybody at Revolution Radio is a volunteer. Nobody is

(01:35:26):
getting paid. That's anybody on his staff is also of
that nature.

Speaker 4 (01:35:31):
No one is paid.

Speaker 3 (01:35:32):
Well, I have to disagree with you there again too,
because I know when I was there that's some of
the volunteers quote unquote we're getting paid.

Speaker 4 (01:35:39):
That I didn't know.

Speaker 5 (01:35:40):
I'll believe you that would explain their behavior, That would
explain their behavior that wasn't supposed to be the way
it was. But I'm sure that all kinds of things
were happening under the table. So I appreciate that information.

Speaker 4 (01:35:52):
It makes sense. I mean that you have there.

Speaker 3 (01:35:54):
I got to tell you something else too, you know,
because like with my YouTube channel. Right at the time
when I was over there, YouTube channel is making three
hundred a month and their YouTube channel since they got
seventy hosts, you know here more time, we got.

Speaker 7 (01:36:05):
Seventy hosts, So were seventy hosts, so many hosts.

Speaker 4 (01:36:08):
They were making seventy times when I was making Is
that possibly? You know? They had we make in ten
times what I was making on my YouTube channel, right yeah,
He's horrible. He's horrible.

Speaker 5 (01:36:20):
And the horrible thing was there was there's this wonderful
lady named Rose Dio. She was homeless for a period
of time and she was working on videos for myself
still is dear lady, and he was gang stalking her.
We have all the screenshots he himself. Several of the hosts,

(01:36:42):
like Jerry Lavoire named jere Bear in the as his
avatar in the chat room. David Sharon Sharon, all these
people were sending her threats, literally threatening her.

Speaker 4 (01:36:54):
We've got the screenshots of it.

Speaker 5 (01:36:56):
He was gang stalking her, trying to drive her to
suicide in order to stop her from making my videos
because he claimed he had total ownership.

Speaker 4 (01:37:05):
Over anything I or anybody produced.

Speaker 5 (01:37:07):
Now, all of this is entirely illegal, of course, because
obviously a person like Ed Opperman speaking for themselves, he
owns himself.

Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
Ed Opperman is himself.

Speaker 5 (01:37:17):
What he produces with his own voice and his own
image without some contract being signed, is his as much
as the station he's on, and he can do what
he wants with it, has every right to make a
YouTube video of his stuff, and none of that was
being allowed for anybody at Revolution Radio. But I of
course wouldn't listen to Mike Greenley. I told him, I know,

(01:37:39):
I told him that Rose Deo it can do what
she wants and he has no control over her. And
so finally it was driving him to madness and he
began to dispatch his game starters in the chat room.
So this had an unfortunate effect where it terrorized my producer,
Lordley Solomon out of the room. They terrorized everyone out

(01:38:01):
of the chat room, and ultimately people began to pull
their subscriptions in protest, which he blamed on Rose Deal.

Speaker 4 (01:38:10):
So the cycle of violence just kept going worse and worse.

Speaker 5 (01:38:13):
So he finally got to the point where he was
verbally expressing killing Rose Deo.

Speaker 4 (01:38:20):
And and when it got to the point where he.

Speaker 5 (01:38:23):
Was breathing down my neck while I was on air,
I kept pretty much expected that my days were numbered
there and so, and of course I told him, you know,
it's your gang stalkers.

Speaker 4 (01:38:32):
Are terrorizing everybody out of the chat room.

Speaker 5 (01:38:35):
They pulled them out out and maybe people will come
back and start subscribing again.

Speaker 4 (01:38:39):
For all the subscription money you're losing, which couldn't have
been more than a few bucks. I mean, this was
the insanity of it.

Speaker 5 (01:38:44):
The man was so monofocally obsessed on what could have
been more than the subscription to Revolution Radio Archives is
less than five dollars. He lost like forty subscribers. So
and he's listen, like what five times five? You know,
at the absolute most, you know, fifty subscribers, you know,
hundred if you lost half hundred subscribers, these lose like
what times five bucks a month?

Speaker 4 (01:39:04):
I mean, it was insane. Yeah, but I'm sure there
was a lot of donations too, because on top of it,
literally yeah, but on top of the subscribers, there's also
donations that come in.

Speaker 3 (01:39:12):
And I know a lot of donations would come in
during your time period and I'm doing under your name
that would go to hey Man for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:39:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:39:19):
Yeah, he made twenty six hundred dollars a month off me,
twenty seven hundred dollars a month.

Speaker 4 (01:39:23):
That was the It was with those alone, with those alone,
and uh, he's I own you, body and soul.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
You're my slave.

Speaker 5 (01:39:32):
And he would send these out, these these circulars to everyone.

Speaker 4 (01:39:35):
Yeah, I own you. I own you. I'm not exaggerating.
It was. It's preposterous. It's monstrous. That's interesting, you know.
I see, I never got a I never got any
kind of thing like that when I when I when
I started later, Oh yeah, because yeah, when I went
on there, it was with the deal I could do
whatever I wanted with my show, and I right away,
I knew right away there was trouble over you. And
I started simulcasting right away. By April, my show's only

(01:39:57):
audit like three months. Yeah, and I said, this is insanity.
Here I gotta start getting on more stations. This is insane,
you know, there's this trouble here. Oh my god, yes, now,
but then with no notice, they just shut you up
the dead air. No what we yeah, with no notice.

Speaker 5 (01:40:13):
What happened was they did this chicken dip thing where
first off, it was a very important day to me
because it was Mother's Day.

Speaker 4 (01:40:21):
It was Mother's Day.

Speaker 5 (01:40:22):
Eve Day was Saturday the thirteenth, I believe something like that,
and so it was that day. I dedicated that transmission
to my late and sainted mother, and I spoke about
many things we had that very day, the Taiwanese American
Cultural Festival Timewae Magua, Tim's American Cultural Festival. So I
had been at the cultural festival all day. I spoke

(01:40:43):
to that and I spoke to several subjects, but mostly
I spoke about the Golden State killer. I will cover
all these top topics again in my first two transmissions
with American Freedom Radio, so people will know what was
answered by Revolution Radio.

Speaker 4 (01:40:58):
And I was comparing that to.

Speaker 5 (01:41:01):
Crimes by quote unquote African Americans, and there was a
lot of fear of African Americans that was, you know,
manifesting a lot of actions taken lately. It isa I'll
go over that in my next two transmissions on Monday
and Wednesday. But what happened was all of that was censored.
Mike Ringley said, oh, we didn't get anything on tape,
and I says, oh, but I just invested, And I

(01:41:23):
said that on air pretty much the day. That day,
I had to invested two hundred dollars in a brand
new microphone and earbuds and a cable and an answer
cable to the modem.

Speaker 4 (01:41:33):
So I knew everything was working perfectly from my side.

Speaker 5 (01:41:36):
And yet he claimed every single host and hostess recorded
perfectly that day, but he just couldn't get mine. And
so I said, I'll say everything again on a Tuesday.
So on Tuesday, when I went on and began to
say the same things again, he came on.

Speaker 4 (01:41:50):
Personally and just shut down.

Speaker 5 (01:41:51):
Then he tried to pull this chicken dip thing where
he told the staff, Oh, I'm just waking up.

Speaker 4 (01:41:55):
Trying to catch up on what's happening. What's going on.
It's just so sleep like everything about him.

Speaker 5 (01:42:01):
He's a you know, we're only scratching the tip of
the iceberg. But the man is probably the violist. One
of the vilest human beings you'll ever meet.

Speaker 4 (01:42:09):
And and there's.

Speaker 5 (01:42:10):
Somebody who when he dies, yes, I will happily done
it to say that's a respect that I gave Michael Hemming.

Speaker 4 (01:42:18):
Second, Hey, I'm gonna hold you to that. If that
makes it happen, I'm gonna hold you to that, Doug,
I'm gonna hold you to it. Now, you said he
was breathing dying your neck while you're on the air,
and give me an example of that.

Speaker 5 (01:42:28):
It's just like when I got on the server, he
was there and he was just basically, uh, you know,
letting me know he was there and uh and and
don't do anything wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:42:39):
And I'm like thinking, like.

Speaker 5 (01:42:40):
Don't you need some sleep because he's you know, diabetic
and uh stroking out and having epileptic seizures all the time.
But no, he's there. He was just you know, and
then he cut it off. Then he cut off while
I was on air.

Speaker 4 (01:42:52):
That was just like creep.

Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
Let me ask you a question, you know. And I
think I've been fair to this whole too, right, have
any well okay, good, okay, I want you to be comfortable.
But now you and me had a little falling out.
You blocked me on Facebook, right, and it was right
around the time when I was reporting on Weisenberg.

Speaker 4 (01:43:14):
Can you explain when what there was behind it? I
don't even remember, Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:43:21):
As for blocking yourself on Facebook, that could easily have
been loriannn Fenton or maybe at that time, or it
could have been myself.

Speaker 4 (01:43:29):
I don't remember. Okay, it's not.

Speaker 5 (01:43:32):
By the way, I'm not coming at this from a
like the the anything other than this is this is
what happens with a life that just has a lot
of drug and alcohol abuse to forget a lot, which
is common the most post traumatically stressed to sort of people.
So I don't want people to misinterpret this and say, oh,
this isn't this is an example of mind control. Rather,

(01:43:52):
this is an example of somebody who has basically intentionally
tried to lose their mind as much as possible, or
aspects of it.

Speaker 4 (01:43:58):
So that's the most I can say about that.

Speaker 5 (01:44:00):
But is there something important about Wisenbriggs I should know
about it?

Speaker 3 (01:44:04):
Well, just because all the allegations out there about you know,
the whole story about Weisenberg, right, he was a convicted
of possession of chop pornography while he was in the military.
Then he went to work for Revolution Radio and he
was out on the run for molesting time.

Speaker 4 (01:44:20):
Oh okay, so that's the guy there was.

Speaker 5 (01:44:23):
Okay, so he must have been the guy who was
living literally living with Kat Jenkins.

Speaker 4 (01:44:28):
Right right, right, okay, so that's the guy who was
living with kat Jenkins. Yes, I remember that. Well, I
would certainly never block you over that.

Speaker 3 (01:44:34):
Well, well, because well, I was banned from the station
for that, because when I started reporting on Weisenberg and
his activities went out far and wide. Was that if
anybody has that operating back on the station, they're banned
from the station.

Speaker 1 (01:44:47):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (01:44:47):
And I had you back on nod You remember that
me because old in the ratings.

Speaker 4 (01:44:52):
I had you back on a few times after that.
No way, no way. I was way gone by then.
That was the way gone by, did you know?

Speaker 5 (01:44:58):
But you you appeared in Mike Greenley him I'll showed
up to complain about it in this guy text spots.

Speaker 4 (01:45:03):
You were on with myself a few.

Speaker 5 (01:45:04):
Times when I when we were talking about you were
correcting your daughter's age.

Speaker 4 (01:45:08):
I had your daughter's age wrong. Oh yeah, I called
up and y'all let you on that. I remember it, yeah,
im it, Yeah, yeah, those are some good times. I
say it. It was fun, you know, because I really
just enjoyed it. Because I come home and I hear
my name mentioned on Doug's show, and you try to
get me riled up to get me to call in.
You know, we alway said a good time. Man. They're
very good, very talented showman.

Speaker 2 (01:45:30):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:45:31):
Yeah, you got to you got a real gift there.
So we got about ten minutes left. Man, what do
you want to leave us with?

Speaker 4 (01:45:35):
Doug? Well, basically, I'm sorry, go on something else.

Speaker 3 (01:45:40):
No, that was What do you want to leave us with?
Is there anything I haven't covered in your life? Or
what do you want to tell you?

Speaker 5 (01:45:44):
What?

Speaker 7 (01:45:44):
It's?

Speaker 5 (01:45:45):
Well, the most important thing to realize is that will
be covering aspects of my life that anyone wishes to cover.
While I'll be here for hopefully the foreseeable future. I'm
happy to be here, and I'm happy to come on
with that operaman anytime he wants, and we can go
over any subjects he feels need further attention. All he
has to do is let myself know that he wants
me on I'll be happy to show up, barring, of course,

(01:46:06):
any other anything else happening at the time.

Speaker 4 (01:46:10):
And definitely I'm open for that.

Speaker 5 (01:46:13):
And as for the Weisenberg situation, if I was still
involved Lauria, and at the time, it was probably her
that blocked you, thinking that if probably knowing, I would
let you back on and that might get me banned
from the station. And she assumed I was under her control.
She assumed that into the last minute, she was the
last person to know. Everyone knew I was partying with

(01:46:35):
her except her by the time that I parted. And
so it was one of those things where she was
very much in a world of her own, with her
own mind control and her own desperation at all times
to serve a Keno or her rent wouldn't be paid.

Speaker 3 (01:46:51):
And well, how do you know her rents paid by Akino?
You've seen canceled checks. How do you know this?

Speaker 4 (01:46:56):
She's told you this. How do you know told me
that if I had her on the show, Lauryn Fenton
wants to come on the show and deny this. Would
she deny this or would she admit this? She would
deny it. Okay, It's like Michael A. Kinum denies ever
having met me. Right, you know, what are they gonna say?

Speaker 5 (01:47:10):
It's it's the stupid thing about it is, how predictable
it is.

Speaker 4 (01:47:14):
Just so people understand.

Speaker 5 (01:47:15):
Uh, everyone thought that I had wrote an email to
myself threatening lawsuit from Michael Lakino, and Ed Opperman was
the man who traced the email address to Michael Lakino.

Speaker 4 (01:47:28):
Yeah, I checked that email for and I never talked
about that on the area that I've kept it going.

Speaker 5 (01:47:33):
Yeah, but the Mikino electronic addressing and uh, and so
Ed Opperman, of course, is someone I consider an ally.
I can't imagine us having something falling out. It's some
kind of falling out where I would have blocked you.
So it must have been.

Speaker 4 (01:47:49):
It must have been Laurian, and I just didn't even
know about it.

Speaker 5 (01:47:52):
I must have realized it later when I took over
my own timeline administration and saw that you'd been blocked,
because I obviously we we're friended again, right, we're friends
on Facebook?

Speaker 4 (01:48:02):
You know we're not. That's okay, It's okay, it's okay done.
He didn't how I feel. I just get it. I'm
just kidding.

Speaker 5 (01:48:13):
Well, well, well, I'll extend a Facebook friend request to
you and in the meantime, uh, these.

Speaker 4 (01:48:20):
How glad I am to be here?

Speaker 5 (01:48:21):
Well, let me ask this indicative by the way, this
is indicative of what was going on at Revolution Radio.
The insanity exactly what Ed and I are talking about
right now, the dysfunctionalism that it that engendered in everyone's behavior.

Speaker 6 (01:48:38):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:48:38):
And of course he's he has been mentioning, of course
that if I had any affiliation uh with Terry Joyce
and the rest of the staff here, I would be
of course I was done quote unquote and uh.

Speaker 4 (01:48:52):
And that's a threat that could be read.

Speaker 5 (01:48:54):
Many ways, but there we have that.

Speaker 4 (01:48:58):
He was when you have the sho here over in
American freedom Er, are you going to take calls like
you do over there? It's going to be the same format.
I don't tend to take calls.

Speaker 5 (01:49:07):
I took calls for five years at Revolution Radio.

Speaker 4 (01:49:10):
Literally it was bordering on five years.

Speaker 5 (01:49:13):
And the problem is that the overwhelming majority of people
who listen do not call. You've got a one hundred
percent listener base about something like if you're lucky, ten
to twenty percent of the people listening will call in.
They tend to be the same people over and over again,
and that can make people. It gives people the false
impression that these are your only listeners, and that they

(01:49:35):
get the impression that this poor guy's only got ten
or twenty listeners, and you know, two of them call
in and basically what I had was about half a
dozen callers, maybe about two dozen, generally half a dozen
regular and they basically concentrate on the same subjects. And
you would have thought by my callers that the only

(01:49:56):
thing anyone cared about on God's Grain Earth was I
would Phillips Lovecraft and the Fool of Lifehols. That was that. That,
that was all anyone cared about. That was the majority
of my calls. We're always that, and after about you know,
about half a decade, it's just said, it's not productive, this.

Speaker 4 (01:50:13):
Isn't going anywhere.

Speaker 5 (01:50:14):
Uh So, I definitely have no attention of normally taking calls.

Speaker 4 (01:50:21):
Obviously, I'm open to suggestion.

Speaker 5 (01:50:23):
So if if something happens that people feel you really
need to take calls on it is, just say it.
Whether it's Danny Romero or at Opperaman, I'll be happy
to do so. But most of the time I don't
tend to do that. I show will be Critical Emissions.
What I had in Revolution Radio was two shows. Critical
emissions was when I monologue, Firing allies was when I
took calls, and after after many years, I just stopped

(01:50:44):
taking the calls. So I'm just taking the critical Emission
show over here two days a week at least for now,
and and monologuing. I found as well out as well
that when I have guessed, my ratings go way down.
People tend to just listen to hear my self monologue
and update them and draw historical parallels, and so mostly

(01:51:07):
it will be that, though I will have some guests
on people i'm obligated to, like Daniel Larola and Vanistenius
who have helped me out in the past with many
many things, and of course yourself if you want to
come on.

Speaker 4 (01:51:21):
Obviously you have your own show.

Speaker 5 (01:51:23):
I don't see why you'd feel the need to do so,
But if you ever wanted to and you felt it
was imperative, of course I would allow you on my
show as a guest. My problem is I've never really
produced and taken calls by myself as at maybe once,
and I'm not quite sure how I would work that.
I would work it though through your staff, because American
Freedom Radio actually has a staff unlike Revolution Radio to

(01:51:43):
actually call us, by the way and bring us on server,
as opposed to us calling the server ourselves. I had
to maintain an outdated Skype for years because Revolution Radio
server would only lock onto an outdated Skype that was
five years old. And so I literally, you know, have
only now upgraded the Skype to take this call and
to conduct my show from this point forward. So I've

(01:52:07):
got a new Skype finally. So I'll tell you something else.
Danny is always a friendly voice, you know what I mean.
It's never You're never going to have a problem with
this game. Well maybe you because you're difficult, but never
Maybe I.

Speaker 4 (01:52:16):
Never have a problem with him because I get along
with everybody. I'm like tech teacher has a lot of
probit a lot of people. I get a loan with
it' that's unfair. I don't believe him. It's a well
I understand where he's coming from, but you absolutely well,
it's a it's a friendly it's a friendly place, man,
and everybody gets along when they go. There's a chat
room and stuff. You can hang out.

Speaker 3 (01:52:33):
Now, we got only a couple of minutes, so telebody
again remind them where they could find you, your website
and when your show's on all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:52:40):
Oh, Douglas teacher dot com.

Speaker 5 (01:52:42):
And of course, uh, I always help American Freedom Radio.
Hopefully we'll be doing a fundraiser soon. I would be
very happy to participate in that. We have to keep
American Freedom Radio going. And it's not some horrible private
enterprise of basically slavery, uh that you have with Mike,
and by all means, if anyone is involved with Revolution Radio,

(01:53:03):
pursue it with the with the Employment and Development Department,
pursue it with anybody who investigates labor fraud.

Speaker 4 (01:53:11):
Uh, you know, do everything you can with those people
that what Mike.

Speaker 5 (01:53:14):
Greenley is doing is it's it's just it's it's a disgrace.
And uh but in my case, I'm also of course
open to uh donations and certainly could use them this
month to make rent. Uh so I avoid becoming another
homeless veteran and uh so, uh just check out where
you can help me with that by going to Douglas

(01:53:35):
Tetrick dot com and also check out what you can
find there. And uh, obviously very happy to be here.
I'm ecstatic. I'm literally in shock. I'm still in shock.
And uh really, as I said, I want to break
down and just cry and hug ed and uh of course,
uh Danny and Terry and everybody here, and and thank you,

(01:54:02):
thank you for this, this, uh, this wonderful haven. Uh
this this this site that I could find a home
at finally, Uh as opposed to that haunted house on
Horror Hill that uh you know, now it makes life
a living hell just by participating in such people or

(01:54:22):
But yet it was a necessary experience because uh, it's
part of this lifetime career I had of seeing things
from the dark side and uh and being able to
express to people in grizzly detail what the dark side is.
So I've left the controlled opposition and I'm now with
American freedom.

Speaker 4 (01:54:43):
I think it's a very apropos right freedom. And Doug,
We're out of time. Thank you so much, Douglas Strict,
Douglas t trit dot com mondays and Wednesday night, six
pm firing lie no critical missions can I do? Good night? Okay?
Oh boy boy, what a game got a man? He's
got a lungs of a teenager. He asked me a question,

(01:55:06):
Hey Doug, what time is it?

Speaker 3 (01:55:08):
But you know, I gotta tell you, man, when I
first met Doug, he was the first one interviewed me
over at Mercanfreedo, marry you right, Rubbishing Radio, And always
enjoyed talking to Doug. You see, you know, the guy's
a fascinating guy, man, fascinating guy. All this stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:55:26):
The number one thing we would get, you know, it
would on my calls when I used to take calls
on my show, the number one call we would get was, Hey,
ed Man, what's going on with that Doug? What's the
story with him? And Laura Ann? What's the story with Doug?
What's going with it? And I just say, man, listen,
I cannot explain to you. I don't know, No, I
do not know. But he's a fun guy to talk to,
and he's going to realize in a couple of months

(01:55:49):
what a nightmare he's been through over there. It really
is some kind of a cult online, controlled cult over
there that's just such misery, and it's just you know,
you try and plug away and get your work done
and get some good guests on the air, and it's
nothing but harassment and distraction and spinning your wheels with
nonsense and gossip and foolishness. So they got Doug got

(01:56:12):
away from it. They got him got away from his menageris.
That was a whole spooky situation as well. Anyway, God
bless you, Doug, Good luck, Doug Dietrick, Doug Dietrick dot
com and Douglas Diatrick dot com. You can find him
on our career Radio well Mondays and Wednesday evening six pm.

Speaker 3 (01:56:28):
Now, if you like today's show, check out Offerman Report
dot com. We have a special member section and we're really, really,
really really trying to get caught up on bills this month, guys.

Speaker 4 (01:56:38):
And we're early in bed shape because we haven't caught
up for the past couple of months.

Speaker 3 (01:56:43):
So I know a lot of people their memberships are
coming due in June and July. Okay, because when you
remember when you signed up last year, I gave you
thirteen months, a lot of people I gave you fourteen
months because that was in such a good mood.

Speaker 4 (01:56:55):
Okay, And now here we are, we're stuck. You know,
I got phoned you all cocks cable bill coming up
again and this is every month man and I'm exhausted
from all this, you know, So I need you to
become a member Opermanreport at gmail dot com and I'll
give you thirteen months for sixty bucks, a nice little
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(01:57:15):
Report dot com and you can sign up for a
month for six dollars, or three months for twenty or
a year for seventy four. But if you do it
through me at operaman Report at gmail dot com, I
get the money right away. I could pay my boss
Mount to keep fool on the table and everything we
got to do. Having a really, really bad.

Speaker 3 (01:57:33):
Week, yesterday was one of the worst days I've had
in a long long time. Like I said, I had
this definis thing going on. I had a friend of mine,
you know, who's someone I really cared about, just really
being rude to me for no reasons, very rude and insulting.
We've lost our friendship and not going to tolerate that
kind of stuff. I haven't been working out it should

(01:57:56):
be for a couple of reasons, so I don't want
to get into on the air. So I got to
get back in the swing of that, and I've been
working on this case.

Speaker 4 (01:58:09):
For Oh my God a couple of years now, and
it took a little hiatus there for a while, and
I got into a fight with a client. Then I
got down on my hands and knees and I begged
the client to come back and we had it going again,
and we had a big snag again. It's a big case,
it's a big payday, but just tak him down, an
evil guy and making them pay through the nose and

(01:58:34):
just you know, I'm just exhausted from all this stuff.
So it's been a little tough getting these shows out
of here and getting people booked and stuff like that.
I heard from Doug last night. I brought on my
show because I know everybody loves them and they like
to hear him go on and on. But it's been
really tough for me. So if you can help out
with a membership, I'd really appreciate it and help me
get through this week here. Operating Report at gmail dot com.

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