Fiona Barnett 'Candy Girl" : Satanic Ritual Abuse Survivor / Anthony Kidman Accuser

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I'll let you guys in on what's going on. Okay,
we've been trying to record the show for about an
hour now. We were supposed to have David Sherdron who's
the author of rabbit Hole Satanic Ritual Abuse Survivor's Story,
and a new friend of the show, Fiona Barnett, who
comes to us from Australia. Her website is Pedophiles down
Under dot com. She's also supporting this thing, and she's

(01:24):
gonna tellus a story about her Give Gordon's Truck Back.
So go to Facebook and check out Give Gordon's Truck Back.
It's a Facebook page and we're gonna be talking about
that tonight as well. Fiona is another survivor of Satanic
ritual abuse and she's in Australia and her story actually
involves Nicole Kidman's father. So a lot of people have

(01:45):
been seeing and reading about Fiona and all this stuff
about Nicole Kidman's dad. Fiona, you're a real trooper because
we've had a lot of problems with the Skype and
phone lines and conference calling and it stuff like never before.
So are you there? Yeah, yeah, tell us about that.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
I'm here. It's just crazy that. I mean, there's a
lot of coincidence in my life.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, So why'd you tell us about yourself?

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Okay, Well, I'm forty six, I'm married with two kids.
I was trying to lead a very normal life up
until a few years ago when I came forward to
the Old Abuse Royal Commission in Australia and testified against
the VIP pedophile network in Australia and my life just

(02:38):
went a bit crazy. The Royal Commission here is a
huge investigation. It's a federal investigation and it's like a
congressional or Senate hearing over there. So I had to
go public. In the end, I was forced to. I
couldn't just have a nice quiet life because I was
being harassed and threatened and attacked people employed to do

(03:03):
so by the pedophile network here. So I went public
a few years ago and uh, you know, my my,
I started writing articles. You can see a lot of
my stuff on Independent Australia dot net, which is a
news journal in Australia. I've got my Pedofiles down under

(03:24):
dot com WordPress site. I've got two book sites where
you can interact with me, and that's Pedophiles down Under
Facebook and Fiona Barnhead Facebook. I'm also on Twitter at
Fiona ray R Barnett. So you know, I've been out
there for a few years now. And yeah, I've done

(03:49):
a bit of study in the past in art, and
I know a lot about education, and I've done his
psychology and I had psychology that I was doing two
subjects of a forensic Psychology Masters at Bond University of
Private University over here, which has infiltrated by the pedophile
ring network. And yeah, they didn't like subject short when

(04:10):
I was doing really well in the course in twenty ten,
they basically got rid of me and turned my life
upside down and gave me no option but to come
forward like this eventually. Now that's a basic trip and a.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Couple of dry runs. We're trying to get the show started.
You were saying that you were brought into this through
your grandfather who was a Luciferian. Yeah, so give us
a little nowt loundown.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
So yeah, so even introduction for how did I become
involved in a self sex trafficking network? Well in Australia.
You have to understand that Australia became big haven for
Nazi war criminals at.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
The end of World War Two and my paternal.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Grandparents, so my step grandfather Peter Hallizak and my paternal
grandmother hell Halizak or Holocheck and Poland, they were Nazi
wars And that's my experience.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
So as.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
I'm just gonna say, just to give people an idea
of the physical links so these So that's that's the

(08:27):
physical proximity, the relationship between those you know, areas now
in terms of the people involved, So my grandparents, my grandmother.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Before you get to grandmother. Yeah, no, is this something
that you uh, is it like a recovered memory? Did
you have a suppressed memory or is this something that
you've always lived with your whole life? Have you been
aware of.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
I've had some conscious memories, you know, from childhood, but
I've had a lot of flashbacks. I started having flashbacks
when my step grandfather, Peter Holiback was down hanging to
death up his Engerdean backyard. So there was actually, yes,

(10:07):
I was subjected to the culture techniques for you know,
trying to stop me from remembering this stuff. But it failed,
it didn't work. So you know, I've had flashbacks. You know,
even up until the last couple of years, I could
wake up in the middle of the night and I'd

(10:28):
have a flash physical flashion flashback of being electrocuted, a
big electrocution pad on my back. And I'm telling you now,
there's no difference between actually being electrocuted and the flashback
being electrocuted, So you know, there's a mixture there. There
were some conscious memories, okay, from childhood.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Now growing up in childhood because you said that you know,
your family were Luciferian. So now, like if I grew
up in a Christian home and you see there's a
cross and there's you know, a Bible in the home,
did you have those kind of artifacts like you know,
Satanic statues or give things like that in the home.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
No, my parents, my parents weren't actively involved. My father
was a victim. But he is extremely dissociative, and he
gets drunk. Suddenly he's fluent in German, but he's not
fluent in German when he's sober, and if at times
he's come through and he's just started talking about stuff
in the camps and being left in the snow to

(11:21):
die in Germany and seeing people ripped up dogs in
German camps and all this sort of stuff. Right, So
he is he hates pedophiles and he hates Catholic priests.
But he sometimes he's turned around. He said to my mum,
look everything Fianna says about all this stuff is true.
We just don't tell her for own good. You know.

(11:42):
He terrified, I suppose of them, and very controlled by them.
He had two parents involved. I was lucky I had
one parent who was involved unwillingly and one very normal
parent who had no idea what was going on. So
my mum had no concept of what was happening. So
I was raised atheist. Parents were raised Catholic. They both
left the Catholic Church around the age of thirteen fourteen,

(12:04):
and I was raised completely atheist, so it was unusual.
At fifteen I became a Christian. But I'd always believed
in God, which is really weird considering I had no
real religious teaching apart from a little bit of scripture
for a few lessons in kindergarten when I was five,
But then I was thrown out of scripture lessons because

(12:26):
I asked too many of the wrong questions. So yeah,
I didn't. There was nothing around the house, no way.
It was very very normal in my own home with
my parents and my siblings. Yeah, it was the grandparents, okay,
and nothing nothing was obvious in their home either. Anything

(12:46):
they had was locked away under you know that was
locked away. You couldn't tell was just walking to the home.
They just looked like, oh, a lovely doating grandparents.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Okay, But did they openly tell you, okay, Fiona, we
worshiped the devil the.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Grandparents, No, No, it wasn't. It's not like that. And
they didn't call it the devil. They called it called
him Lucifer. That's the only name I ever heard when
I was young was Lucifer. I heard, you know, ball Emma,
tep Dagone, you know Mollek, you know names like this.
We were mentioned in the rituals. In the actual house,

(13:23):
we didn't really talk. There was a bit of a
rule where you didn't really talk about it. Right in
my grandparents house, they talked about My pop would tell
me about I remember vividly when I was six and
he's telling me about how he liked to kill Jews
for a living. I was said, oh, Pop, you know, tell
us about the olden days. Oh well, you know I
did this to the Jews. So I remember that being

(13:45):
spoken of, But the other stuff was hush hush. There
was a rule, you know, you kept what was done
in the dark. You kept in the dark. The first
rule of fight club is is no fight club. So
I was trained from a young age don't speak about
it outside of the pedophileing meetings.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Okay, then how did that happen? How did that transition
happen for me? If you come home from school and say, okay, well,
now we're going to go off to one of the meetings.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Tell me about no, Well, what would happen is I
would only attend the meetings when I stayed with my
grandparents at Ingodeen. So my parents lived in another suburb
and a few suburbs away, and I would visit the
grandparents during school holidays or on weekends or you know.
I was left there from a young age, from before

(14:30):
the age of two, I was left alone. So I
have memories, vague memories of being sexually assaulted by Peter
Holidak when I was very very young, and remembering my
mum leaving, walking out the door. I could only have
been about two, she said, And I remember her outfit,
and I remember thinking, Mommy, don't leave for me in
my head. But I'd be left at my grandparents and

(14:53):
they would spoil me rotten on the surface, you know,
and sort of play good bad cop. So my grandmother
would spoil me while my step grandfather did all the
dirty work and took me most places. The grandmother did
a little bit, but not as much. So that was
just I would be left there, So my mother thought
she was leaving me, leaving her little girl with her

(15:16):
doting grands paternal grandparents. So as soon as Jay left,
I might be there two weeks at a time, or
three weeks during hot school holidays, over Christmas or whatever,
and that's when it started. I might have been there
every second weekend, sometimes every weekend when my mum was
sick in hospital. When my brother was being born, Mum
was in hospital, he was premature. Mum was in hospital
for weeks and weeks. I was at my grandparents the

(15:36):
whole time. So that's how it happened, and I would
be walked to various places. Another portrayor that my grandmother
was very good friends with was a Lithuanian doctor whose
papers I've been handed and they're up on my site
through the evidence. He was Lee Petrascus P t r
a U s kaf Leonis l e O nas So.

(15:59):
He was an Indidian worked He owned and worked at
the Indideing Medical practice on the corner of Boronia and
O Princess Highway. He was one in charge of indiadeen Boystown.
He was what you call say the head priest and
he was friends with Anthony Kidman, Nicole's father. He went
firstity with Anthony Kidman. They were all linked to STAY,

(16:21):
They're all linked to Asia, They're all linked to various
organizations in the military. Over at Holsworthy Army Base, Kidna
was linked there. Another perpetrator was John Overton. He wasn't
an aneth assist. I remember him being there for an
operation I had at Lucas. He's the father of Peter Overton,

(16:45):
who used to be a journalist for sixty minutes. So
and John Overton grew up next door. Kids grew up
with Nicole Kidman. So Anthony Ki lived next door to
John Overden. So these are all the links you see, right,
and you've got so Once I was handed over to

(17:05):
Kidnan and I'm the owners Petraskas. Then you know, I'm
handed over to getting Er who abused me at bo
Fights and Holdsworthy, then getting a handed you know. Then
I was handed over to Kim Beasley Senior, who was
schedul education Minister for Goff Whitlam, one of the prime
ministers that sexually abused me. And you know I'm trafficked

(17:26):
down to Canberra for a pedo party at Parliament House,
which is like at a pedophile party at your White House.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
It's some sort of thing.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Then I was trafficked to your prim President Richard Nixon
at Sabane International Military Airport where Air Force one flies
into in Canberra. And then Richard Gibson recommended me to
Billy Graham. I was trafficked to Disney World and Bohemian

(17:55):
Grove after the age of five, and I was trafficked
over there where I tended it. You know, I saw
ritual murder and you know, panophile parties and different things
and themed rooms and things at Beheming Grove and I
the assaulted by Richard Nixon there, sorry by Billy Graham,
who said, you know, he's a friend of Richard Dixon's

(18:16):
and you know you Richard told me good things about you,
and you like to please men and do what they say.
So after by him and raped by him in what
I call the Pink Bubble room. It was a themed room.
I was dressed up like Shelley Temple or Candy Girl
was my name, you know. I was, you know, dressed

(18:37):
up petty bear outfit and a bunch of kids and
I were They played hunt with us in the dark,
and they over the loudspeakers in the Redwood Forest. They
played Cheddy Bear's picnic and creepy music while they had
fun hunting us. You know, I saw them dressed in
ritual roads over there like black Clue plus clan robes
and murder someone. You know. So these are the connections.

(19:00):
This is how it's all linked.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Okay, But the thing is, and you send it to
all that's happened when you were around five years old.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Because no, what happened was I have a flashback to
a very vivid flashback to age three being abused by
Anthony Kimmen in the city office. And then the first
memory of getting up was age five in Leon Strascus's

(19:27):
lounge room. And there after he they sort of had
a bit of an assessment. The Grand Dame was there,
Veronica and a panel of people. Then when they said, yeah,
we'll take her over to testing the holes Worthy, I've
taken holes Worthy where I was underwent a comprehensive cognitive
physical assessment by Gettinger and his team of military scientists.

(19:52):
People in glab Coats that Holdsworthy and Lucas Pits nuclear
actor that both facilities have underground adding into that goal
about six seven stories down when I was there in
the seventies. So that's what happened. So my you know
a lot of my main memory of murder and the
rituals and all that sort of stuff. They really kick

(20:13):
in age five to six, you know those years.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yeah, okay, because now you know, like, how did if
it were so young? How did you know that it
was Richard Nixon and Billy Graham? How would you even
know who they were?

Speaker 5 (20:27):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
I didn't know until I saw That's what's easier to
recognize famous people when you see someone's photo on TV
or in a magazine or down the track. When the
Internet came about, I went, oh, that's a guy. That's
the one.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
You know.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
I might a lot of the people. I didn't have
photo it, but I drew Some'm a very good drawer
and I could draw realistic portraits. I drew what would
look like the photograph as Kim Beasley Senior at a
risk at Batho City Hall with Bruce Spence, who rate
me at the hall. He's an actor who's in Mad
Max and other movies. Now, I drew afic picture him
and I took it and my mom said, who the

(21:01):
hell is this? And my mother said, I that's a politician,
and you know, and it wasn't for ages years that
we found out the name so I would remember faces.
But it wasn't until you know, I didn't know who
they were as a child, for a lot of them now,
And remember they changed people's names Leons Petraskis. I was

(21:23):
sold to call him doctor Mark or my childhood, so
I did not know these people had code names so
that I wouldn't be able to find them later on.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Now, when this was going on, when you were like
three years old and five years old, wouldn't you tell
your mom, Mom, I don't want to go back there.
I don't want to go back to Grandma's house, you know.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
No, because they threatened to kill my brother if I
do what they said, and I believed them when I
was little, when I was six, it took me into
the National Park near Holsworthy Army Base, and they they
took a trader named Stephen. They not Stephen, sorry, that's
another one. They took a trader anyway. They tied each

(22:05):
of his limbs to a different vehicle, and the four
vehicles drove off in different directions. And I was told,
that's what happens to you if you tell who the
hell's going to talk after that, you know no way.
I mean they tortured and terrified into submission. If you
get electric attle prods, four of them and stick them
into a child from every angle and do that until

(22:27):
the person. Like in Seligman's learned helplessness experiments, they did
the dogs where the dog was electrocuted to the point
where it just gave up. And even when they gave
it and escaped, the dog chose not to escape. It
gave up. If you do that to a human being,
you'll have the same response learned helplessness. So I tried
telling my mother, and I have a vivid memory of

(22:47):
tell it. Trying to tell my mother. I remember the
bedroom everything. When I was eleven and I was trying
to tell my mom and she I said, you know,
I'm special. I started off by saying that I started
trying to tell us this is a conscious memory I have.
And she turned around and she said the wrong thing.
She answered in the wrong way and something like I
think to pull on my leg sort of thing. And

(23:08):
she didn't mean it, but she just had no concept
of what I was talking about. And back then, and
you know, she shut me down really and look, even
at age eight, we did a wall near on my
bedroom wall, and I tried to tell her. Then I
drew a picture of a time tunnel, like off a
series we call Doctor Who like a stargate thing, because
I died at age eight and I woke up in

(23:30):
Sutherland possible after being suffocated in a rebirth ceremony that
went wrong and I was actually suffocated and I had
one of these near death experiences. And I painted her
on my bedroom wall for my brother and my mom
to see, and I'm trying to tell her about the tunnel.
So that's a conscious memory me trying to tell her
and it just didn't work, you know, and the terrible

(23:50):
things they did, and I just was so protective of
my younger brother Dale that you know, I really believed
they would murder him if they did if I'd told.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Okay, So I was going to ask you that that
you have one younger brother, do you have any other siblings?

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yes, I'm the eldest now of seven. I had one
younger brother at that stage, but there's about a nine
year gap between Dale and Andrew, Peter, Joseph, Michael, and Emma.
So I have, you know, six siblings and I'm the eldest.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
It's a huge feelin now, yeah, what about more than
any of the other brothers and testers were they targeted
as well besides.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
You, Yes, they were. They've all been ritually abused. And
they have varying memories. For example, when I put up
the bal statue, you know, when I had that, I
drew that. You know, my brother saw it. The eldest
of the young ones, Andrew, he saw it and he says,
I recognize that. So they have memories. They had more memories.

(24:47):
Some of them, like had better memories over twenty years ago.
They used to tell my mom stuff and you know,
Mum remembers what they told her, and now they go,
I don't remember that, you know, But they told his
stuff when they was seven and six and eight and whatever.
But the younger ones that had less exposure to it
because we moved when I was thirteen, twelve thirteen, going
on thirty something high school, we moved up, you know,

(25:09):
one thousand kilometers away from Sydney, and then I would
be summons during the holidays then. But they couldn't get
to my siblings so easily. But some of them, you know,
Andrew and Peters stayed over at Hellia Peter's place when
I was you know, when they were very young, and
they remember being drugged. They remembered doctor Leannas Petraska's coming

(25:32):
to the house, and you know, and they remember walking
up in the direction of Engiden Boys town. You know,
they all remember stuff, but they won't talk. They think
I'm an idiot for coming forward, and you know, get
our name off the engineers and all this sort of thing.
And I don't agree. I believe we're all safe if
we come forward.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Now, what about when you would leave these these the
abuse right, and you'd go back home to your mother
and father. Did your parents ever know just like bruises
or injuries to your body or things that were unexplainable.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
My mother noticed that my stomach had problems. I always
came back with a very bloated stomach and just wondering
what the hell's going on. She noticed some physical illness.
I've come back sick, I've come back with earaches. I've
come back, yeah, with some physical ailments. But she the
most thing she noticed was the personality change. When I
was three, after Kidman first ritually abused me and did

(26:26):
the military abuse on me, I came back and my
mother said, my personality completely changed from that and she
knows that, you know, she said she never saw her
daughter again. Complete personality change.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
And so is your mother alive that today?

Speaker 4 (26:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, And she's been interviewed by there's some people made
a bit of a amateur documentary about it. And she's
been interviewed. You know, a number of people have been interviewed. Yeah,
she's alive. She's spoken up, she's spoken to the police.
Police have rung her, the police have among my siblings,
you know, everyone spoken to the police who are currently
investigating this and detectives. Now.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
So now Nicole Kidman's father, he's dead. Now, how did
he die?

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Okay? So I was it last year, mid last year
or something like that. I put in a official complaint.
My then therapist encouraged me to make a logic. She's
a psychologist and she thought Anthony Kidman should not be
practicing as a psychologist who was still a registered psychologist,
and I think he's a biochemist and his lecture at

(27:31):
Sydney University of Technology, and she encouragsed me to supported
me to make a formal notification against him, which is
a formal complaint to the Health Board of New South
Wales and to the Psychology Board of Australia. I did
that and within what was it, within eight weeks he
was dead. So they indicated to my therapist that I

(27:55):
was the first one that had come forward. I know
through information was leaked by Nicole Kimman's security team that
Anthony Kidman was placed on suicide watch immediately after received
my notification with the please explain and yeah, and he

(28:16):
placed on suicide watch straight away, and then he went
to the US to say goodbye and Nicole. He went
to Singapore where Antony Kidman they had some sort of
hotel there, and yeah, he was dead in Singapore. There's
no autopsies or hush hush, you know, first reports where
he jumped off a falcony, then suddenly he just died

(28:37):
of a heart attack, the way Nicole's sister Antonia, her
ex husband, suddenly died not that long ago either suddenly
dropped dead in a hotel in America. So it's all
a little bit suspicious.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Okay, But the official story with Anthony Kidman as he
died from like a heart attack or.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, that was the final official story.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah, Now, did anybody else make complaints about him while
he's still alive.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Besides you, Now, I know that the Health Board New
South Wales received other complaints, but I'm not proving to
the content of those. But since I've gone public, yes,
people have come forward to me and said, yes, I'm
another victim of Anthony Kidman.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Okay, what about his own children? Have any of them
come forward and said that there were victims of his.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
I can only tell you what I remember. I remember
Nicole Kidman being present when I was age nine, she
was about eleven at a murder, a ritual murder held
in the Great Hall at Sydney University. They murdered a
five year old boy there. I've got the drawings up
on pedophiles data under dot com website, WordPress site. I
remember Nicole being present when her father said, well, it

(29:54):
was there. I was fourteen turning fifteen. It was the
night of my fifteenth birthday. It was at the Kidman's home.
There was a post production party there for a production,
a Shakespeare production by actor John bell over here, who's
very well known stage actor. I was after everyone left

(30:15):
the party, I was sexually Judy Davis, you know, was
in that production. After everyone left the party, I was sexualist,
followed by John Bell and Anthony Kidman. I woke up
the next day and they sort of you know, sort
of drought knee drowned in the in the swimming pool
and all this sort of thing. And then the next
day I woke up in the basement type room and

(30:39):
I remember I'm sure it.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
Had I'm pretty sure it had stairs.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Or something like that, and light coming down the stairs
and Nicole leaned up against the wall e the stairs
and watching as her father beat me up. He was
whacking me over the head and yelling at me, do
you remember now? And he stop until and she was
just working at me. You know.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
What he was saying? Do you remember now? What was that?
Where was that? Where was he saying that?

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Why was he Why was Anthony Kidman saying that?

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yeah? Do you remember now? Like what was he talking about?

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Oh? He was just trying to traumatize me into dissociating
from the memory of what he had just done with John.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Bell to me, Okay, gotcha.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
It's how they continue, It's how they keep the dissociation going,
and how they keep those neural pathways blocked and other
neural pathways that they opened up open.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Okay, this is a good time. Let's take a commercial break.
It's going to be about six minutes. We'll be right
back after this with more of a Fiona Barnett, a
survivor of a lifetime of almost satanic ritual abuse by
people like Nicole Kiddy's father. She lived next to us
a boys town there in Australia, which are all the
same kind of stuff you hear over and over in

(32:03):
all these stories. We'll be right back with more Fiona
Barnett after these messages. Her website is Pedophiles down Under
dot com and also to She's gonna tell us about
some situation here with this, Give Gordon's Truck Back on Facebook.
But go to Facebook check out Give Gordon's Truck Back.
It's a Facebook page. We'll be right back after these messages.

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(39:17):
is the one who initiated the complaint against Anthony Kidman,
Nicole Kidman's father. So everyone who saw these these stories
in the news about Anthony Kidman, Now, at that party
there that you described Nicole smirking at you and stuff

(39:39):
like that. Now, was this an event that, uh, you
were openly at that party or was this something where
you like you were brought there secretly.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Oh, secretly taken there? I was driven there by doctor
Leannis Petranskis from They picked me up with my grandparents
ing it in Hell, and then took me up to
Anthony Kidman's house on the north side of Sydney, but
they could be up to ours drive in traffic. And
he told me to go knock on the door and say,

(40:12):
Star Child is here. So I knocked on the door
and that's what I did, you know, and I'm pretty
sure it's Bruce Spencer answered the door. And you know
that stage, Bruce Bence hadn't raped me, So my memory
for him isn't as great. I tend to remember people
once they really did something to me personally, so yeah,

(40:35):
so and then I remember walking through the house and
into the back room with a huge pat so and
then and then I was picked up again by Leonis Petraskis.
Next up.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Now you were fifteen years old. Actually, right, you were
fifteen years old.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
It was my fifteenth birthday the following day, right.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
Now, did you tell your friends the next day? Yeah,
I just went to this big party last night over
at the Anthony Kidman's house.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
I know I would have no, I would have been
killed and then my friends be bumped off. It doesn't
work like that.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
Okay, Now you were about to say something though, when
I interrupted.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
You, I just that it was Nicole Kidman's mother who
did who washed my clothes and brought them to me
after I had been beaten up, naked and wet in
the basement.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
So you stayed there overnight and you were picked up
the next day?

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Yeah, I was there overnight. The memory I have is
being assaulted late in the dark, late that evening, and
then my next memory is waking up tied to a chair.
I was wet, and you know, damn, my hair was
damp and everything, and I was tied to a wooden
chair in a basement being beaten up. And then the

(41:53):
next memory is very faint, something about you know, like
just just that my clothes were brought to me and
they'd been washed and died by Nicole's mother.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Is Nicole's mother still alive today?

Speaker 1 (42:06):
I think so? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
Now, Now what has their public response been to this?
And what does nicoles that oppressed people? What have they
said about this?

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Well, your magazine, the National Enquirer went to run this
story when when at first, you know, when he first died,
Nicole's sent sent the National a choirra a very nasty
springing letter because in America you can't publish people own
their own image, as far as I can understand, and

(42:38):
they said, no, no part of Nicole equals no story.
In Australia you can. You can publish any photose here.
You don't own your own image here. So that was
it was furious. And she hired security guards to stalk
me over here, and they said that Nicole was taking
a scientology approach to managing me.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Oh, very interesting, because you actually talked to these guys
that were stalking in.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
My husband spoke with security guards that were hired and
a journalist named Jonnicka Bray who's now Jonicka Williams, and
her photographer that came up to do a Woman's Day
magazine shoot on the day of Anthony Kidman's funeral. They
spoke to the So those three spoke to the security
guards sitting in two cars stalking the outside of my house,

(43:24):
following me around, tailgating me. Merely caused an accident, and
they said, yes, would be hie to keep an eye
on Pianner.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Oh really.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
And the other thing is what Nicole had a security
team to see. People don't like Nicole in Australia. You know,
she might be revered in America, but over here, you know,
we had a program called grew and Transfer, and when
they showed an ad that Nicole's in advertising some sort
of airline, you could see with their reaction on grew

(43:55):
and Transfer the program that they you know, they describe
Nicole they were chasing Westkirfley, it was. They described her
as polarizing within Australia. People don't like it. Her true
nature comes through and so her security team was quite
happy to betray her and one of the security team
members became paparazzi. Now that paparazzi was still in contact

(44:18):
with Nicole's security team, and that paparazzi was directly talking
to Jonica bray Slash Williams, the journalist in my house,
and she was getting feedback all day updates on everything
because the paparazzi thought I was going to jump on
a plane and fly to Sydney and make a scene
at anthonykot funeral which.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Is now the security guards were they were Australian or
were they Americans?

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Australian And they are the ones who told that the
media that Anthony Kidman was placed on suicide watch immediately
after my notification against him was given to the Health
Health Board.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
Now when you let me just complain to the to
the health board? Okay? Uh, you just did this on
your own? Or did you have help? Did you have
a lawyer helping you? How did you go by doing that?

Speaker 1 (45:09):
You don't even need a lawyer. I had the assistance
of my therapist at the time.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Okay, okay, now, oh okay, Now you mentioned the National Inquiry.
Did any did the National Acquirer ever approach you and
say listen, we'll give you a bunch of polygraph tests
and we'll pay you some money to tell you a story.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
I've never Whenever they contacted me, they wanted my story.
They interviewed me some uncle Michael one of their journals.
I suppose they viewed me over the phone. I sent them,
I sent them documents. I sent them all the documents
that I had to prove my what I was saying.
And but one thing I make very clear upfront is

(45:56):
I have never will never accept money for my story.
And I you know, and I will never accept money
for my silence either. So I have never No one's
offered me money because well they sort of just tried to.
But I make it very clear at the start, I
said no, I'll only do the story free. So you know,

(46:17):
the National Inquiry knew that straight up. We didn't even
talk about money because I'd already said that's off the table,
it's not happening.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
Okay. Did they ever discuss polygraphs with you?

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Ah? No, I know they didn't say that to me.
I don't remember anything of.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
That, okay. And did they run your story?

Speaker 1 (46:38):
No, because Nicole Kidman threatened to sue them if it
ran it with her photo on it.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
So that's what I've got emails saying look, we can't
do it because we have no photo, no story here. Okay,
now this is and Woman's Day, Women's Day. We're crouching
out saying Fiona that they're going to shut it down,
seeing Nicole Kidman and Antonio Kidman. They have Lucid Media
contracts with everybody in Sydney. They are very they have
a lot of money and they really own the Sydney media.

(47:08):
So they shut down the Woman's Day article as well
as Jonica Brace said they probably would that they put
so she was trying to keep everything under wraps, but
it leaped. You know. We had the security guard seeing
Jonnica Bray there, you know, and reported back and take
the photos.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
So now all this happened though after she was a
separated from Tom Cruise.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Oh yeah, okay, yeah, it only happened last year mid
last year.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
Okay, Now this is also part of the story. Are
you also the origin of the story about the children
being hunted?

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Now, Judy Bington is the author of that story and
she has something to do with Kevin Nnette and I'm
not happy with what happened here. I had a story
ready to go with independ Australia dot net and the
editor of that journal that I had been writing for already.
He said, I'm going to going to wait until after
Anthony Kim's funeral before we run a story about him

(48:03):
being a pedophile. He said, out of respect. Well, I
thought the story. When I thought the story was going
into the independ Australia very next day, I stupidly sent
Judy byant In a copy of it, of the story. Well,
she took that, mixed it with stuff that had nothing
to do with me, mixed it with some brat by

(48:23):
Kevin Arnette. I don't want anything to do with Kevin Nnette.
I didn't know who he was. He's made up all
this stuff about having some international course or something that
he made up in his own lounge room, and then
they put it together, all the Ninth Circle and all
this sort of thing. I still to this day don't
know what the ninth circle is. As a child, I
was never told that term. I'm not familiar with that
term this day.

Speaker 5 (48:44):
No.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Well, from my article, what it was was Judy Byan
and mixing my actual article that you can still see
on Independent Australia dot Net with whatever the heck she's
got from Kevin Arnette and whoever else gotcha?

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Okay, I got you? Okay. Now, ultimately, how did this
wind up? And like here in the United States would
call it a congressional investigation, a congressional hearing? How did
this wind up in your equivalent of that? Did you
go to the police first? Did you went to the government?
How did this all come about?

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Well, the Royal Commission occurred independent of me. There was
just there is so much of this that the government
was sort of forced into a position where they had
to look like they're doing something because there's such a
round swell of testimonies and victims and the victims coming
forward because there's so much pedouphilia in Australia. Australia is

(49:38):
a pedophile haven. So the Royal Commission was occurring, had
nothing to do with me, And I just was one
of the first people that contacted them as soon as
they were opened to hear businesses testimony.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Gotcha. So you contacted them and said, hey, I haven't
mentioned I want to share with your investigation. And then
what did you share with them?

Speaker 1 (50:00):
I gave them a whole bunch of information. I didn't
give them everything because I didn't trust them, and for
good reason it's come out that I couldn't have trusted them.
They're basically in information gathering exercise and they're going to
lock information up for eighty years or something. So they've
gathered all of this information. Anybody who I know is
part of the VIP pedophile ring. They're not investigating those people,

(50:23):
which is the main thing you should investigate. In Australia,
so we already had a Child Abuse Royal Commission at
a state level in New South Wales called the Wood
Royal Commission in nineteen ninety six ninety seven, and it
was instigated by the existence and complaints about the Sydney
VIP pedophile network that I was victimized by and all

(50:45):
these other people. That eight guys came forward and a
politician stood up in Parliament House and said, you know
all this stuffs going on, what are we going to
do about it? Well, those boys were prevented from testifying,
their lives were threatened by the New South Wales police.
They went forward because a lot of police are involved,
and so all of that has now come forward, okay

(51:06):
to the current Child Abuse Royal Commission, which is a
federal level one. Now, I've been campaigning for the current
Child Abuse Royal Commission to open up the old Wood
Royal Commission files because Wood, who himself I've been told
as a pedophile by another victim, he just totally whitewashed everything,

(51:26):
dismissed us as liars, said, we all made it up
and really didn't use any of the copious amounts of
evidence that was in our favor back then or witness
testimonies and just did it cover. So now what they've
got is this current Royal Commission taking a sampling approach
and they're just like publicly holding public hearings into the

(51:49):
odd Catholic church organization with kids wom molested, or the
odd private school or these sorts of things, but they
are blatantly ignoring any them organizations or institutions. It is
within they have the ability and it's within their terms
of reference to investigate the Sydney pedophile ring and the

(52:10):
boys' homes from which people like Gordon Myers were kidnapped
and kidnapped from their parents, placed in state care in
a you know, in government care in these boys homes
around New South Wales. Then they were prospected from the
age of six eleven, twelve thirteen to VIP pedophiles, including
top politicians ex prime ministers, current prime ministers back then

(52:33):
right in Sydney at gay hotels and all that sort
of thing. And they have the power to do this
to investigate the judiciary, which is you know, the judges
and the lawyers that are involved, the Parliament, House or
the politicians at a state and federal level. You know,

(52:53):
our Children's Services Department, which are taking children off and
off parents who you know were more low socioeconomic status
and placing them in with pedophiles who are prostituting them
out and the police, you know, and the Education Department's
a big one. You know, the children are being sort
of groomed within education environments at schools and high schools

(53:17):
and prostitute Now now they're doing all the Royal Commission
is avoiding all of those organizations and they're just you know,
and the same as you've got. I'm really not happy
with sixty minutes Australia. It's Australian version of your program.
And they, from what I can see, they have been
given the task of government of sort of doing a

(53:40):
controlled release of the the IP pedophile network story. And
they were interviewing people. I've been told one of the
people that've interviewed so fake because all the boys who
were Insidney at the time that this by alleges he
was there, said we've never heard of him. He's a fake,
he's a worm, and all this sort of thing. Now,
you know, sixty minutes, you know, said they narrowed it

(54:04):
down to thirty Australian victims of the VP pedophile network
that I was abused by for interviews. So they came
to me and well, my name was put forward by
someone here and I gave them all the stuff that
they asked for police statements. Is that they never had
the decency to personally phone me. They find all the

(54:25):
people I said could testify, witness witnesses to what I'm saying,
who pay evidence, my popay makers, my researchers, people who
found all the advocates who support what I was saying
regarding the connections between Leon Petrastias and Kidman and you know,
kim Be's all these organizations and ASIO and CIA and
all this sort of thing. And and by instead of

(54:45):
you know, sixty minutes, never contacted me, never had these
ses say whether I was in or out of the story,
but Rain everybody and then told them that my story
was a bit far fetched, you know. And yet I'm
the most vocal VIP network victim in Australia, and you know,
the most sort of verbal, the most you know, I've

(55:08):
had good press up until you know, I published all
the weird stuff, and you know, they didn't want that.
And yet they and they haven't interviewed any of the
other twenty to thirty victims of the VIP peddifile ring
that have come forward to me, and some of whom
contacts minutes. Yet their interview with other strangers none of
us have ever heard of. Okay, so this is the

(55:31):
sort of thing they're doing to try and cover it up.
Now I've gotten I got a really awful email from
sixty Minutes, you know. Having it got me because I'm
telling people, look, they're information gathering, you know, And I said,
I said things a private message. It's private messages when
people come to me for my advice. Can I trust
sixty minutes And I'm going, well, this will lead you
to me. So I think very angry because I blew

(55:53):
open their story and I recently got into the mainstream
press in Australia Gordon Myers story and now he's an
Indigenous Australian, the average Australian identifies as part of a
stolen generation where kids were taken off parents who have
mixed race, you know, so his dad is some was
Caucasian and they were placed in you know, government care.

(56:13):
And while I was in there is prostituted and they
cut his penis off, which and they were doing all
these severing penises off these boys. They were saying it
for circumcisions, that they were watching all the circumcisions and
cutting their penss. So this is what's happened to this guy.
And you know, I've broken into the mainstream media. It
reached UK media. It's it's still he's still being interviewed

(56:34):
by media, and for some reason, sixty minutes are angry
at me.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
Well, you know, I've interviewed a lot of people, you know,
like Henry Vincent, the Confessions of a DC Madam, Robert Merritt,
who was again a homosexual like operative like this was
a use for blackmail in the States, and the stories
they've described in even tim Teeth and there from the
UK and many times they described that while the politicians

(57:04):
are being blackmailed and set up with these and these
pedophile you know, and videotape and then being set up
also two at these parties are the major media people,
you understand. Yeah that's true, right, yeah, so you know
it would make sense that you know, why they would
want to keep things silent because they're in on it,

(57:24):
you know. Yeah, yeah, now just then with the boys
by the way, but tell us what the story about
the truck. They took the guy's truck, But what's going
on with that?

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Well, according mind this I have. I've really felt a
lot of empathy for the victims of the Wood Royal Commission,
the men, because I've just realized in the last few
weeks how hard miles have it. And I think they,
in a way had it harder than me because men
are allowed to speak up about their emotions in this country.

(57:57):
And certainly, yeah, it's very embarrassing from mar to say, well,
I was raised by another man or at the Pennis
cut off, you know how awful so Borden, I think,
you know, people often say, oh, well, you know what,
but you know, they'd like to do something to help
these guys. Well, I took it upon, I really and
I've been up bunseling some of these guys that's come.

(58:18):
I mean, I've been up organized professional counseling. But you know,
and in the meantime, I'm the one on the phone
at midnight, you know, when something goes wrong, because they're
all being triggered, and I'm the one who's been liaised
with the media to get their stories to be there
and all this sort of thing right, And I was
really touched by Gorden Meyer's story. He's the one. He's
he was named after a very famous a guy, a

(58:39):
songwriter out here a country in Western star Gordon Parsons.
So he's named after example Parts and Parsons. That's what

(01:01:03):
I would like people to do, is go in there
and support Gordon Myers and help get his truck back.
You know, he's lost enough. And it's he's very likable too,
and he was a very respected truck driver. And I
guess he's pedimnd symbolizes the struggle of every abused victim

(01:01:25):
at this level, and it's just something we can do
and it's feasible, and people really like him and he's
popular and he was a bit of a leader too,
as a young kid. He used to support the other
victims and fight for them, and so I just think

(01:01:45):
someone like that should be given a break for once. Yeah,
so that's what I did. Give Gordon's truck back.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
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who made the first report, the first complaint against Anthony
Kidman nicolek is that Do you have any was there ever?
Did you make any police complaints? I know you did
the whole thing with the Royal Commissions, but we have
police complaints or civil lawsuits.

Speaker 4 (01:09:13):
Yeah, well, so I first included Anthony Kitten's name in
my original Royal Commission written submission which was many, many
pages long.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
That was twenty twelve. Then Anthony Kibben I made the notification.
A couple of years I've noticed twenty thirteen, so a
year later I made the notification and I made I
also made I've done four days of police witness statements
so far, and I've covered all the real big stuff
in those four days, so the main stuff that you know,

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if I walked away now and I didn't get enough
chance to make those statements, you know, I've covered the
stuff I really cared about. But they estimated Sutherlan detective said, fown,
it's going to be five more days of witness testament
witness statement making with us. And I actually came out
a threat when I went down on the second and
third in November to do the second, those second two

(01:10:07):
days out of the four. And I've fought so hard
for years to get police technic statements, and other victims
of contacted me said, you know, please just dismiss them,
say oh, you're lying, you're making an up psychotic. They
call the hospital, they get them dragged away to the
psyche units. Things like this. That's what happens if you
even stuff in Australia. So it's been hard for me
to find the right detectives to make a statement to

(01:10:31):
enough thought, very hard. So I've been trying for many,
many years to make police statements and I finally succeeded.
They are supposed to be coming up to my place
a for five more days of it because it's not
safe for me to go and go to Sydney again.
So I'm waiting. You know, they've rung people, they've spoken

(01:10:54):
to other witnesses and all this, and they've spoken. I've
put other victims to them. I haven't put them forward
to them, recent victims because I've not heard back from
them and I haven't given them this all flood of
victims that have come forward since Gordon my stuff was
sent to me, But they had a whole bunch of
other victims before that. You know, I don't know it.

(01:11:16):
It's not those they're fantastic. It's the people above them,
the hierarchy above them, that will probably shut it down
as usual. They do it every other time in every
other case. You know. It's got a really good bot
over here called Peter Fox who exposed Richualvie to sit
in Newcastle, which is a couple of thousand drive north
of Sydney and he lost his job over it all.

(01:11:37):
I could stick him to his guns and you know,
at people high up in the police force bringing his
personal private doctor and tell him instructing the doctor he
must say in a report that Peter Fox is a
mental case, is insane. And she said, what the hell,
what are you talking about? And she told the newspaper
this is what was said. So this is what happens

(01:11:59):
to good detectives who try to expose the IPI defile
network and try to do the right thing and do
their jobs. So I don't see much hope in this
getting very far.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
What about civil litigation? Have you pursued that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
I haven't. I mean there's a discussion about that. You know,
I have got a lawyer, and you know we're going
through and there's so many people I can sue. We're
sitting down and going, well, who do you want to sue?
I mean, you know, I've got very good cases against
the new Southwalls police because a few months ago they
came and tried to take my ten year old daughter away.
They just falsely accused her of stealing someone's pink iPhone

(01:12:43):
for she reproved through her school. Is supposed to have
happened while she was at a private school that she
goes to the school ring the police and said this
is impossible. The child was in our care. The local
twitter police officer basically verbally abused the school principal. And
you know, we've got wonderful witnesses to that, and there's
a very cut and dry case. There, a very clear case.

(01:13:05):
You know. Then I've got a case on university. I've
still got over a year to bring a suit against
them for you know what they did to me, a
taught case. So you know, I sit here and I
go is it worth it? Is it worth it to me?
Or should I just just give up and just go
and retire somewhere on a property and just ditch youll

(01:13:27):
live in you know, this is where I'm at. I'm going,
you know, like my whole life's being destroyed. I'm financially ruined.
I was ruined by a lot of mongrel lawyers in
Melbourne from Aken Chambers and Magici's chambers. You know there's
people who are supposed to be these top lawyers screwed
me over, stole thirty six grand worth of my money,

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and sold me out when I tried to first take
a case against Bond University and the health board who
destroyed my career. And you know, and there's a Gold
Coast Police officer who works upon Universe that you have
joined in to fabricate rubbish about me. And you know,
I'm really it's a David the Goliath battle and I'm

(01:14:11):
getting and I am getting tired, and you know, there's
nobody so much I can do. But I don't know,
am I really to go another round with these mongols? Yeah?
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
But you're saying that they tried to use the authorities
to go after your daughter. How many kids do you have?

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
I had two, they've just turned eleven and seventeen.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
And just recently they came after your daughter tried to
rest her for this iPhone situation.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, three months ago. They just see
when they can't trick me out, they just make stuff up.
They make stuff up, you know. So the lots of
tweets police, they've been infiltrated by petiphoring. They are just
turned up at my house sleep on Friday night about
eight o'clock and you know, we're here for your daughter.

(01:14:56):
Basically and she stole the phone, an iPhone, and we
were like, what the hell you know? And yeah, they
would to take my daughter away. I mean, imagine what
they would have done to my daughter, taken down the
cop shop, fabricated something against me, fabricated something against her,
put her in state care and raped her and prostituted
her out and I never saw my daughter again. You know,

(01:15:17):
you can't make these people. I just I really had
it out with this oper over the phone. I said,
you've got no evidence. I don't we talking about to
get a warrant? And then I put my daughter in hiding.
They're not touching my kids. You know, most people would
just give their daughter over because they wouldn't know what
to do.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
So now you're saying that just three months ago, I'm
something like Clay. They showed up at your door and said,
we want to arrest your daughter and take her into custody,
or we want to remove your parents. All right, so
we take her.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
Well, they started. What they wanted to do was start
off just to come and question my daughter. And you're
not allowed to do that without parental permission or a warrant,
and I refused. At that stage. They didn't get any
further than that. They went all out of my house.
I wouldn't let them in my house. So the cat
turned up to interview my daughter.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
Okay, and she was ten.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
You know, she's an angel child. She's a ballet dancer
and you know, an academic at school and wins the
music award, and you know, she's she's a nipa and
you know, she's not running the street. She's a child
that you know, gifted musician and all this sort of stuff,
and she does a lot of activities and she doesn't
she didn't even come into contact with this iPhone for

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this pink ithone for They couldn't even show any evidence.
In the end, we pursued it. I complained to the
Muse police commissioner. They got onto it, and police came
and basically apologized to us and gave her a police showbag.
You know, they traumatized us all and you know, you
know they've turned around said no, there was no evidence,
you know, and they said no, they've done the wrong thing.

(01:16:43):
I mean, how many times I put up with this,
and you know, I'm just tempted to just sue them,
I mean, just to really make an example out of
that one officer and sue that officer.

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
Well, that's a very good point though. You know a
lot of parents they think that when the cops show
up at their door, that this is a parenting tool
to start waving your hand at your kid. And said, well,
tell them the truth, confess.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
Don't let that's what this composite. This police officer. My husband.
I sat there and said, there's no contact with space.
She said, I'll be the judge of that. I'm going
to come and question your daughter. I said, no, you're not. No,
you're not used to go away from my daughter.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
You know, and parents should inform their kids of this
too as well, that they don't have to right away.
You start giving up their rates. You know, they want
a lawyer, and they're definitely what their parents. The first
thing I want to talk to is their parents and
their parents. You get a lawyer. But there's no there's
no currently any any charges pending with that right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
No, No, it was absolutely dismissed. When I complained to
the police commission. I was up to three o'clock in
the morning that night directly email and the police commissioner,
who's doing an email I had from previous incidents where
we're being victimized by local better following police and police police.
In the past, we went complaining about, you know, get

(01:18:02):
the neighbors move in and they are part of pediphile ring.
We've got one next door to us now in Benera
Points and he's up from Wollongong and obviously an employee.
When he first moved in, he assaulted my brother, He
poisoned my dog, he tried to assault me, he tried
to smash his way and trespats on my property, tried
to get from a gate which I keep locked, all
this sort of stuff. Now when we complain about the people,

(01:18:23):
that's a thirdinator we've had like that, and I've got
the straining orders against them before and I'm not paying
another forty thousand volved for another austraining order. And so
you know, I answer the police and we're not allowed
to get a restraining order against them. It turns out
the court told me no the police have with children involved.
So and then go to the police and they go, oh, no,
we're not doing it. So they really are complicit and

(01:18:48):
the slight passive youth and up they are passively committing
offenses against us by allowing this man to break the
law and so you know, we have no protection here,
and yeah, I forgot the question is the first place
now I was leading to something.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
The question was whether do you have any open cases?

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
And there was you know, oh yeah, no, there's no
you know the I was going to ask you when
we really did the right thing and out smarter them
in a way, you know, But they keep on coming
at it with these things with greater exposure though, Like
now there's been a specific police officer assigned by the

(01:19:32):
Royal Commission and the Sex Crime Squad in Sydney, New
South Wales for me and for to the people who
are advocating to me in Sydney. You know, we've got
a big support network now and all these victims coming
forward they've signed a police officer so they know they
know that I'm not happy and people I don't look.
I don't condemn vigilant sort of movements, and I you know,

(01:19:57):
I don't approve of people coming up and you know,
beating people up for me or anything like that. I
don't want that, you know. Last thing I want is
to be dragged into some murder case because someone the
police accused me that I've employed someone to bump off
one of my persecutors. I don't want that either.

Speaker 5 (01:20:16):
I want the police to come and do their.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
Job and defend my family against this Tweethheads police station
that is infiltrated. I've had police officers within the News
South's force tell me respectable officers senior off the state. Oh,
it's the most plot corrupt police state in the whole
of the state. Tweet Head the police and they call
it the Catholic Most of the coppers they are Catholics.
So that's what I was saying. You know. At one

(01:20:40):
point they actually after we complained about the ongoing you know,
sort of victimization by police. They in Tarlington. The former
U superintendent down at Tweeters police station in this area
left Larry Calanta. He dispatched three cars full of armed

(01:21:01):
police to ambush three family homes, my brother's home, my
mom's home and my home and they sided my point
down the highway, stopped short of the state border. He
was due to his an accountant and has no criminal history.
He was due to is a very nice person too,
you know, he wouldn't say boo. And it was to
catch a playing with his brand new box and fly

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down the Sydney for a meeting to do with his business.
He was a financial officer. And they put him over
and hold three semi altic automatic weapons to him on
the side of the highway and order him face down
and cuffing. You know, this is what happens. This was
for me to shut up.

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
Okay, But on what basis I did they pull him
over and hold them at gunpoint?

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
Oh, because they said that the neighbor, who was another
pedophile ring employee, had said that there was a gunman
inside our house and had threatened him with a sauna shotgun.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
And he fingered your brother, you said, I think it
was as the one.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Yeah, he focused. Yeah, they accused my brother Joseph. My
brother wasn't even there. He proved it and everything, you know,
and it doesn't do with him. They just said that.
Then they said my husband was my brother coming catching
a taxi from my house to the airport. You know,
they just made it all up. There's inconsistencies in their
stories that you know. Oh, for goodness sake, it was
such a big story. We could have sued the police oversack.

(01:22:20):
I mean, here we are. We've done the right thing.
We've tried to support the good officers in the force
and not going around to seeing the police. But it
doesn't stop them. It doesn't stop them. The only thing
that stops them is coming out squealing like a pig.

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
Now, in all this, all this this police harassment and
stuff like that, are there any existing charges against you
or any of your family members?

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
No? No, We've never been Our family have never been
charged with anything, never been charged and there's no charges
against us ever. I have no criminal history. I've worked
as a prole officer. You can't have a criminal history
working as a prole officer.

Speaker 6 (01:22:56):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
I've always respected the law, and you know I worked
for the for the I worked for the justice system.
I mean, you know, I'm on the other side. I'm
on the side of the police. I used to work
alongside the police. Now, no, none of it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
When you said that they assigned a police officer to
work your case, did you feel like he's on your
side or do you think he's like this or he's
openly against time?

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
I trust no one. That was done through an organization
called Snap in Sydney and his liaising Snap. But I
and that's a clue. The survivors as the group. And
they're the ones who sort of contacted me and said, oh,
will you a flight to Sydney please and make a
you know, a statements were you know, address the media,

(01:23:45):
do a press release and a media conference. And I said, yeah, sure.
So these people are really latched onto supporting me, and
you know that's fantastic. I've never had support in my life.
So it's been me. And so they're the ones who
have secured the sex crime squad police officer and supposedly
is someone who's liaising between me snap with Royal Commission

(01:24:07):
Victim New south Wells Police because the police we're having
so much trouble with them. That's in theory. I trust
no one anymore. How can I trust anyone? They've all
proven to me that I can't trust them. I do
really like the two detectives assigned to me from Suberland Police.
You know, they've been awesome. You know, I trust them,

(01:24:32):
but I don't trust the people in control of them.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
Gotcha. But this other liaison officer is not openly hostile
to you, right, he's at least he's being seven.

Speaker 1 (01:24:41):
I've never spoken to him. I don't even know him.
I haven't met him yet he's liaisingly my people who advocate.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
For me, gotcha. So did you communicate back and forth
with him in any way emails?

Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
Or I communicate with those people all the time, you know,
they bring me all the time. Check I'm still alive.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
Now, what about are you familiar in the case of
the case here in the United States of Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
Oh, the pedophile who was friends with the UK pedophile
ring right now.

Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
In that case, the attorneys for the victims, they did
something very clever and they sued the victims Advocacy Board
because they weren't communicating with the victims and they didn't
consult with the victims in regarding the plea deal. And
that's how they're using that tactic to get all the
files and the investigation of Jeffrey Jeffrey Epstein unsealed. It's

(01:25:36):
very clever. Now, do you think that there could be
some way you could do something like that over there,
Like if you could sue perhaps this Royal Commission, you know,
file a lawsuit against them and get all their their
investigative work released to the public.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
Well, we'd have to find a lawyer who's not dirty,
and that's very hard. In this country. So you know,
it's very hard to find a lawyer that's not complicit.

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
Yeah, I hear you, I hear you. So now what
are the kind of it sounds like you like you're
under constant harassment.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
And absolutely yeah, And you know.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
What about Nicole Kidman's people? Are they still following you around?
They're done?

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
Well? Who would know who's following me around? When I
was in Sydney, My lawyer thought it was Ago, which
is our secret. It's like your CIA follow following me
around when I was taking two days of witness statements
between the second and third On the second and third
is note. I went to meet a very famous with
flower psychologists Australia the year, Rayna Michaelson, just for coffing,

(01:26:45):
just really debrief, not to really talk about anything, just
to like downtime in between making these horndo statements, you know.
And she's just a lovely person. I trust her. Oh well,
you know Nicky Davis from Snap and Rayner and I, well,
these people were following us and met, you know, met
me on the platform at a train station. We agreed
to meet somewhere neutral and said, guys out there following

(01:27:08):
you found and turned out there were four guys. They
were dressed in a way that was suspicious. They had
military haircuts and military demeanor. There's a bit of confrontation
between us. So I took one of them best photos
as evidence and send it to the police, you know,
and you know, and there was this big standoff. I mean,
we basically out smarter them, that's what they didn't like,
and got their photo and they went hysterical, and you know,

(01:27:31):
it looked like they wanted to punch my head in.
And you know, next thing, I'm right, I took off
like Jason Bourne, I'm changing my clothes on the run.
I'm you know, trying to get the good detectives that
I was making statements with shut the shut the whole
thing down and protect me. And you know, it was
just horrendous. So that's what happens. You know, I'm on

(01:27:53):
the constance of balance. My Apple technicians in the US
told me my phone, that's what they said, it's tap enough.
You know, I guess that landline here in the phone
company told me, I, Fiana, your phone's tapped. That was
years ago. So you know, I'm on a constance of violence.
You know, I get strange people following me all the time.

(01:28:14):
You know, I get people sitting in cars and marked cars,
detectives and cars sitting outside my home. I used to
have police in marked cars sitting outside my home to
stick glaring at me that dots ince I went public.
It's never ending. Dead chopped up animals, thrown out of
my fence. I come home find my eleven cooks and
ducks massacred, and then the some half of them, the carcasses

(01:28:36):
are missing, and then the neighbors drop them over the
fence over the next two weeks, rotten carcasses slowly. You know,
it's just never ending. It's never ending.

Speaker 3 (01:28:46):
Well, we're getting towards the end. Is there anything that
I that I've admitted or that you want to share
with the audience?

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
Oh? What can I say? Just the list of perpetrators. Really,
I'm going to name them. There's politicians Bob Carr, Bob Hawk,
Prime Minister, Robert Menzies, Prime Minister, Paul Keating, Prime Minister McMahon,
former prime minister's you know, dead and alive. People have named,
you know, other prime ministers, and until they actually give

(01:29:17):
me something in writing, I'm not going to name those.
But it's seeing that Robert Menzies was just an idol
idolized over here, you know. And you know, you've got
people like Molly Meldrum of famous Rock Elton John came
over and he was boys prostituted to him. You've got
Alan Jones who's a radio host over here, very famous

(01:29:37):
for two GB radio. Bernard King, he's dead. I think
You've got Bert Newton, he's a big peto over here.
He's on TV. You know, he prosecuted his son, Making
Newton to Graham Kennedy. I mean, the list is endless,
you know, It's just it just goes on and on
and on. And I really want people to pressure the

(01:30:01):
Royal Commission into tweet them, write them, facebook them into
opening up the wood Royal Commission files and opening up
and investigating you know, Derek's Training Center, Charleston Boys Home
and all the boys homes because it was those victims
that were prostituted to know the VIP pedophiling network. And

(01:30:25):
they pressure the Royal Commission into opening up the abuse
that occurred at Holdsworthy Army Base when they use children
as military guinea pigs for their experiments. You know, other
people's come homeard about holesworthy to me. Now, they need
to investigate all the government bodies docks which is children's services,

(01:30:45):
you know, and they're prostituting you know, children in their
care and unjustly taking them my parents. And they need
to investigate judiciary, the judges and lawyers that are involved
in this, and the judges that make these dreadful decisions
and uphold the pedophile agenda. You know, they need to
investigate Parliament. That's what I want. I want people to

(01:31:07):
fight to that, and please donate to get Goods truck,
So go to give Gordon's Truck book back Facebook site
and just help us to set an example. You know,
let people let the government and authorities know that you're
not going to take this anymore, you know, and you're
going to take a stand and don't subject you don't

(01:31:28):
submit to fear. Don't submit to fear, you know, to
threats of suing or threats of this, or threats of whatever.
Play it smart and just if we unite as one voice,
we're quite powerful. They're running, you know, they're they're they're
scrambling for ideas and what to do. But I want
people brought to justice. I want you know, Bruce Spent

(01:31:50):
my rapist charged. I want John Bell my rapist charged.
You know all these people have solded me. You know,
Ted Turner in America should be investigated. He he raped
me at Disneyland. You know, I know that Disney boytop Disneyland.
It's a pedophile ring organization of a nighttime There are
pedo parties there, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:32:07):
Start reading my stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
Look up pedophiles down under Facebook site, look up pedophiles
down under you know dot com and read my material
and start complaining and your self heard.

Speaker 3 (01:32:24):
No, thank you so much for Fionna. I really appreciate
you coming on. And I'm going to ask you what
has to pray for you? Do you have people praying
for you?

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
Yeah? People do say that they pray for me. Yeah, yeah,
But I need more. I mean, look, look, I am
at the top of the pedophile networks hit list. I
am at the top of this straining government's hitlist right
now for obvious reasons, because I'm making waves. If I
get sixty minutes writing to me throwing a tantrum at me,
I'm in email. I'm doing something. If I get victims

(01:32:57):
being paid to threaten me, I'm doing something. I'm getting somewhere.
You know, I just put something up on social media
and people are responding, Like when the government cut off
Gordon Meyer's pension. You know, he can't make a living,
he has no money, and I got on there and
complained and that day the Centerlink, the government organization, reinstated

(01:33:19):
his payments. You know, get behind me, support me. You know,
I've been asked to run for the Australian Senate. I
don't know if I can do that. I don't know
if anyone's set up the party enough the people who've
invited me. But look, I'll do it if that's what
people want. I don't care. My reputation's been destroyed anyway.
I've got nothing left to lose. You know. I'm some

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of the media that works government, like the ABC and
sixty Minutes, and that has attacked me. How could you
get any worse for me? You know, it's just a
natural platform to walk into politics after this.

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
That's true. Okay, Fionna, thank you so much. Keep us updated.
If something new comes up, give me a call and
we'll put you on the air right away.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
Okay, thank you so much, Ed, and just thank you
to listeners and for their support. You know, get I
do get lovely messages, you know, private messages and Facebook
posts of support and it makes a big difference.

Speaker 5 (01:34:11):
And do pray for me.

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
I am a Christian, do pray. It works.

Speaker 3 (01:34:15):
Thank you very much. Good nat. Okay, now we're going
to try and bring in. We have Polly Ewes. Boy,
let me tell you something. We had a really rough
day trying to get if you're on the air today,
it was unbelievable. But we also have a poly Us.
We're going to bring hard right now with an update

(01:34:36):
with the Reverend Pinkney situation because he's in having some
trouble too, and he's actually has an urgent plea. Hi Polly,
how are you?

Speaker 5 (01:34:47):
You're live on the air, Hi, ed how are you today?

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
I'm good, I'm good. So we brought Polly back poly
Ewes to discuss the Pinkney situation because Reverend Pickney seems
to be in a desperate situation and really needs our
prayers and our support. So Polly, why don't you remind
the audience of what who Reverend pink Mey is and
why he's in prison. Most people are familiar with it,

(01:35:13):
but there might be a couple that don't remember.

Speaker 6 (01:35:17):
Well briefly, he was tried over a year ago. He's
been actually in prison for a year. He was tried
on changing five dates on petitions to recall the Mayor
High Tower of Benton Harbor, Michigan, which is basically run
by a Whirlpool corporation, so there's a lot of corruption
going on. He turned in more than almost twice the

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number of signatures were turned in. Everything looked like a
go and suddenly a swat team was surrounding his home
and he was.

Speaker 5 (01:35:48):
Wanted pretty much did or alive, and they.

Speaker 6 (01:35:51):
Charged in with felonies of changing five dates on petitions.
During the trial, actually his innocence was proven. There was
no evidence. The people came to the stand, witnesses who
said they saw someone else change some dates because they
were wrong. Another a commissioner came to the stand and
said she changed.

Speaker 5 (01:36:10):
Her own date. It was wrong. But even if they had.

Speaker 6 (01:36:14):
Discarded those five petitions, they would have still had more
than enough signatures. So he was convicted. He was conted
found guilty by an all white jury. This is a
black sixty seven year old minister and activists has been
for a year, many year decades fighting gentrification in Benton

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Harbor and a corporate takeover.

Speaker 5 (01:36:39):
He was sentenced to two and a half to ten years.

Speaker 6 (01:36:41):
He ended up in Coldwater, Michigan, to a correctional center
there that was a level two. He felt relatively safe.
He was able to have visitors every weekend. His wife
could visit him. Often, he got mail. He would call
out to radio shows yours was one of them.

Speaker 5 (01:36:59):
At times every week.

Speaker 6 (01:37:01):
He was calling radio shows, speaking out, writing of course
things and putting on his posting them on his websitebchbango
dot org, and just being an activist really from prison,
helping prisoners with their family and their legal issues. He
was even preaching sermons, so you know, it wasn't a picnic, but.

Speaker 5 (01:37:25):
It was the best we could hope for.

Speaker 6 (01:37:27):
While he was imprisoned, he's been tried to get on
bond on pending his appeal. Appella courts turned him down twice.
Supreme Court turned him down also. The appeal is filed.
The response from the prosecutor has been received, and the
prosecutor's response ed is that it must have been Peeney

(01:37:47):
who changed those dates because he's the one who had
the motivation. There was no evidence, but he wanted to
He wanted to have the recall so badly, and he's
an activist, so he must have been the one who
did this. We feel like the appeal could have a
good outcome with it. But he was suddenly in October

(01:38:08):
early October taken from Cold Water to Marquette Prison, which
is in the Upper Peninsula. It's almost five hundred miles
from his home, so we knew immediately that they wanted
to isolate and silence the reverend. And he was calling
at first, he was making still the phone calls, but

(01:38:30):
suddenly his phone calls were cut off. So he was
charged with several things like using another inmate's pen and
using doing a three way call, which isn't even possible.
But they did revoke finally his phone rights for six months.
They had a hearing, and he also could not email

(01:38:52):
until November twenty sixth. They denied him that now he
can email us. He can talk to his attorney, of course,
but he can't talk to his wife now. They didn't
think he'd get visitors. And this is kind of an
interesting story. I'm in Wisconsin, I'm about six hours from Marquette,

(01:39:12):
but the Michigan Dorothy's wife and the Michigan activists are
further away. They are ten to twelve hours away from Marquette.
So immediately he said to me. He called me and
asked me if i'd come see him. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:39:27):
Well.

Speaker 6 (01:39:27):
I had been deactivated on his visitor list in September
because he wanted other activists to come and see other
people to come see him, and I'm like eight hours
away from him where he was in Cold Water, but
I had visited him in June, so I was on
the list but not activated. Well, a few phone calls

(01:39:50):
to the prison and he told his counselor to reactivate me.
Everything was supposed to be okay, but they never did it,
and finally we realized they weren't going to do it.
And I called the MDOC a couple times also and
asked them about it, and they told me the rule
was that a prisoner can only make a change to

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his visitor list every six months, so he made the
change in September.

Speaker 5 (01:40:16):
I'd have to wait till March to go see him.

Speaker 1 (01:40:20):
Well.

Speaker 6 (01:40:20):
I went to the MDOC, the Michigan Department of Corrections website,
and I found their policy directives, and it was clearly
stated in the policy directive about visitors that a prisoner
had the right to change his visitor list at least
every six months, So that's a different definition from only

(01:40:41):
to at least every six months.

Speaker 5 (01:40:43):
Well, I called the MDOC and let them.

Speaker 6 (01:40:45):
Know that their rule clearly states that he should be
able to reactivate me and I was called back. I'd
leave a message and I was called back immediately, and
the woman said, we changed that rule on October twenty seventh,
So they actually changed the wording to prevent me from
coming to see him. However, they didn't reckon.

Speaker 5 (01:41:09):
On excuse me, Michigan activists visiting him.

Speaker 6 (01:41:15):
By the time I was done with all that and
found out there's no way I could visit he In
the first six weeks or so, he has had four visitors,
so he one was his wife, but the last visitor
he had was a man named David in Michigan.

Speaker 5 (01:41:30):
He flew to Michigan and he.

Speaker 6 (01:41:32):
Had linked up with some advocates like you suggested, and
you know, finding some groups that were advocates for prisoner rights.
And he did find three or four people that came
out with him and had a protest or a little
demonstration in front of the Marquette prison. They also the
activists up in Marquette had called the radio and TV stations.

(01:41:56):
Two TV stations came out. Two affiliates, ABC and NBC
picked it up.

Speaker 5 (01:42:02):
They did they.

Speaker 6 (01:42:03):
Interviewed David and these other activists and they talked about
what Pinckney was going through, the mistreatment, the harassment, everything
that was happening to him.

Speaker 5 (01:42:14):
And he then that was Friday during the day.

Speaker 6 (01:42:18):
So then David went to see Reverend Pickney that evening
and when he walked in, they give you a sheet
of paper and you can take notes on it. So
he went in to see for Reverend Petney, had a
three hour visit, took some notes, left and the guard
stopped him and said, we believe that Pytney's trying to
smuggle something out with.

Speaker 5 (01:42:38):
You, and he said, well, empty my pockets.

Speaker 6 (01:42:40):
All I have is this sheet of paper you gave
me to take notes, and they confiscated it. So David
left and he came back the next day. He stayed overnight,
went to see him on Saturday, and he didn't even
get out of his car and a guard came out,
or they liked to be called prison officials that a
guard or prison office came out and told him you

(01:43:01):
can't go in Pinckney's in segregation, which we call solitary
confinement because of breaking a rule.

Speaker 5 (01:43:09):
And he said, well, what rule did he break?

Speaker 6 (01:43:11):
Wouldn't tell David what had happened, nothing, So all David
could figure out was, well, maybe they used that piece
of paper with the notes to punish him for having
this another visitor, a fourth visitor.

Speaker 5 (01:43:25):
They didn't like it.

Speaker 6 (01:43:27):
So Pinney was in solitary for five days in level five.

Speaker 5 (01:43:32):
So Marquette is level one and level five.

Speaker 6 (01:43:36):
And level five is the highest, is the most you know,
the violent criminals, the long term criminals, apparently the inmates,
and level one is the lowest security. So in level
five he was stuck for five days in this solitary confinement.

Speaker 5 (01:43:50):
Then they removed and then they dropped the charge.

Speaker 6 (01:43:52):
Then after five days, the charge that they told him
was smuggling notes to his wife the charge.

Speaker 5 (01:44:00):
But then then.

Speaker 6 (01:44:02):
They allowed him to start emailing again. So he's been
emailing us and you know, not telling us things aren't
so great. And then he gets to talk to his attorney,
which he does at least every week, and he tells
his attorney, you know a lot of the details that
you know that's going on. The harassment's continuing. He's fearful

(01:44:25):
for his life. He told him that if the guard
is coming down the hallway toward him, he flattens himself.

Speaker 5 (01:44:34):
Reverend Painton, he flattens himself against the.

Speaker 6 (01:44:36):
Wall so that there's no possibility of accidentally brushing up
against the guard because he figures he'd get beat up.
He has seen other inmates be just beaten for no
reason at all. Five prisoners have died since September, at
least two at the hands of.

Speaker 5 (01:44:55):
Guards or prison officials.

Speaker 6 (01:44:57):
We've been trying to research those deaths, trying to find
out more. It's very difficult. We're having trouble getting information.
So we knew things weren't good, and we knew he
was still sufferings. He's diabetic. He didn't have high blood pressure.
He now does have high blood pressure. They're monitoring it

(01:45:19):
once a week. Well, anybody knows you monitor high blood
pressure at least daily.

Speaker 5 (01:45:24):
So he's not getting the medical care that he should.

Speaker 6 (01:45:27):
He stays in his cell most of the time just
to avoid any trouble that he might run into.

Speaker 5 (01:45:34):
He also has told us that the.

Speaker 6 (01:45:36):
Marquette I think there's a reason Marquette's up in the
Upper Peninsula ed because it's like eighty percent white supremacists
the inmates and there they've formed a lot of gangs
and they're about twenty percent African American. The guards are
mostly white, and the warden, his name is Robert Napal
and nee Pal, runs the prison like Hitler and encourages violence,

(01:46:00):
doesn't stop any fights, doesn't stop any anything that's you know,
inmate against inmate, lets them fight. So you know, there's
just nothing positive coming out of there. There's there's I
don't think he gets to the law library like he
did in Cold Water and help people. And yet I
think he is getting to know some of the inmates.

(01:46:22):
So it's gone from bad doors. Then last weekend, let's pass.
Saturday the twelfth, we had an emergency conference in Detroit
and I attended that conference. They were about fifty activists.
Most of them were from Michigan. I'm from Wisconsin, but
there was somebody from North Carolina and a man from Virginia.

(01:46:44):
And we heard from three attorneys. And what was interesting
when the attorneys, every one of them told us that
what we're.

Speaker 5 (01:46:52):
Doing is the right thing to do.

Speaker 6 (01:46:55):
And the best thing we can do and put the
pressure on, and put it on, and put it on,
and keep going and don't stop because people get in trouble.
And sometimes, you know, people should get in trouble they
do something wrong. But many, many times people get in
trouble for nothing. And we always think, you know, citizens
think that the legal system is going to take care

(01:47:16):
of us. And they all said, the legal system has
broken down across the country.

Speaker 5 (01:47:22):
It's failing America's citizens. And so what we're.

Speaker 6 (01:47:25):
Doing for Reverend Pigney is the right thing to do
and for others that are in predicaments like this, and
you know, we're seeing it in all of our states,
in all of our towns. We heard from a man
who had been at Marquette Prison himself, so and he
confirmed the conditions that where they were just like the Rev.

Speaker 5 (01:47:44):
You know, described them.

Speaker 6 (01:47:45):
We heard from Workers World Party vice presidential candidate Lamont Lilly.
I think he's out of North Carolina. There were other supporters.
I talked about social media. Reverend Payney always writes and says,
use the internet even more, keep it going, poly get
out there.

Speaker 5 (01:48:00):
In the media and on the internet. So I always tell.

Speaker 6 (01:48:04):
Him I've talked with you, you know, I've talked with
others on radio shows, and he's very excited always about
the media. So we talked about that and writing letters
to editors of newspapers, and even the Michigan activists, we
all talked about how do you get more media coverage, because,
of course Michigan is pretty much sewn up with Governor Schnyder.

Speaker 5 (01:48:24):
Fred Upton is a representative who's been there like.

Speaker 6 (01:48:27):
Thirty years or so in the legislature, and he's the
heir to Whirlpool. So the corruptions were widespread across the state,
Barrian counties totally in their pockets.

Speaker 5 (01:48:39):
But the Michigan activist said, you know, we're going to
go to the TV stations and if.

Speaker 6 (01:48:46):
They don't talk to us, we will be out there
demonstrating in front of their stations every day until they
come out and talk to us, and they.

Speaker 5 (01:48:54):
Give us a story about Reverend.

Speaker 6 (01:48:56):
Patney, and we'll just keep it going and keep it
going because you have to force it so many stations.
You know, even if we find reporters who will write
the story and cover it, then their editors or their publishers,
you know, will squash it. And not allow them to
go on the air. So we're up against that, of course.

(01:49:17):
But the worst thing now the latest, the very latest,
And when we got home from Michigan, or from Michigan,
I got home from Michigan. Then on last night, Wednesday,
we had a conference call. Every two weeks we have
a conference call with any activists who would care to
join us, and we just kind of brainstorm and we
have a speaker, usually from around the country. We bring

(01:49:37):
in different speakers and talked about, you know, the latest
things about Pinckney, what should we do.

Speaker 5 (01:49:42):
Well, we've discovered.

Speaker 6 (01:49:44):
Last night on the call that Reverend Patney had sent
identical emails to two separate activists in Michigan, and it.

Speaker 5 (01:49:55):
Was really almost like a plea for help. Dorothy is
wife called.

Speaker 6 (01:50:00):
An SOS from her husband and I'll read part of it.
It's onbhbanko dot org and I encourage your listeners to
go to bhbanko dot org and they can see all
this information. But here's what he wrote. I have been
placed in a hostile environment. The Department of Corrections knew
or should have known that the threatening, harassing, intimidating behavior

(01:50:23):
by Corrections officer Shredder created a hostile environment, and the
department failed to implement corrective measures to protect me. The
department on purpose set me up for failure. Their action
can never serve a legitimate penological purpose. The Department of
Corrections has jurisdiction and power to propagate rules and standards,

(01:50:44):
but failed to do so to protect me. They have
continuously threatened, harassed, and intimidated me. I am even afraid
they will plant a weapon in my locker. We must
make this known as soon as possible. And then he
even went on and concluded, asking it possibly we should

(01:51:05):
contact the state police.

Speaker 5 (01:51:08):
So we take this very seriously.

Speaker 6 (01:51:10):
We're surprised that he was that the email got through
because he named this mister Shredder, this guard that's particularly after.

Speaker 5 (01:51:18):
Him, and.

Speaker 6 (01:51:22):
Then he said talk about the state police. Well, we
really don't feel we can do that, but we got
his attorney, you know, right away to the message, and
his attorney called.

Speaker 5 (01:51:31):
Him today and.

Speaker 6 (01:51:34):
Apparently when this guard isn't on duty, things have settled
a little bit and he feels a little better. When
this guard Shredder is on duty, he is totally alert
every minute and he's fearful for his life and what
this man this guard will do. So we're asking everyone,
and I hope your listeners will go to bhbanco dot

(01:51:56):
org to call the governor, to call MD and there
are a couple other legislators here, and to call the prison.
There's even a script online here that just calling and protesting.
We don't like it that he's so far away from home.
He's in danger. There's no reason for him to be
shipped up to Marquette so far away from his home,

(01:52:20):
nobody can monitor him. The winter's going to set in,
and of course that it will be more difficult for
us to get to see him and just keep the
pressure on because the prison doesn't like it when they
get calls or when the media is involved, and we

(01:52:41):
don't think it's going to make it worse for Reverend Petney.
We think it makes it better because they back off.
They know they're being watched. So we encourage media such
as yourself and to call the prison and request an interview,
a phone interview, and they'll probably say no, but at
least they know that the media is interested and the

(01:53:02):
media wants to.

Speaker 5 (01:53:03):
Know what's going on.

Speaker 6 (01:53:05):
We also ask people to please please write to prevent
peytony send him a Christmas card or a honek a card,
anything you know, send him a note.

Speaker 5 (01:53:14):
It does two things.

Speaker 6 (01:53:16):
It lets Reverend Pete you know he has supporters and
we're not forgetting about him. But it also lets the
prison know how many supporters he has. And it's great
when these when these cards come in from all over
the country and even internationally.

Speaker 5 (01:53:31):
We know of people in.

Speaker 6 (01:53:32):
Germany and Thailand and Moscow and other places that have
written to him, and that looks great. That shows the
prison that you really are under a watchful eye and
we're not.

Speaker 5 (01:53:44):
Going to let this go.

Speaker 3 (01:53:47):
What about like Amnesty International anything like that. Have you
tread contact from them?

Speaker 6 (01:53:52):
I haven't personally, but I will take that and write
that down because that's that's another idea we have. I
got on Twitter last night and sent out tweets to
celebrities and legislators and journalists and reporters and news outlets
all over the place, and I actually have some responses
from some of those just on Twitter alone.

Speaker 5 (01:54:13):
So we're using social media.

Speaker 6 (01:54:15):
We're contacting as many organizations as we can come up with,
and there are many organizations working with the Petneys, especially
in the Michigan area in Detroit, area and Flint area.
So yes, m it's the international. That's a great suggestion.

Speaker 5 (01:54:32):
Thank you, Matt.

Speaker 3 (01:54:33):
You said that he's been in there a year already.
Has it been that long?

Speaker 5 (01:54:38):
Yes, December fourteenth, he was sentenced in the court. I
was in the courtroom and I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 6 (01:54:47):
They the judge, after hearing the ACLU lawyer give a great,
a great statement and his lawyer's personal lawyer arguments, he
still sentenced him two and a half to ten years.
And the prosecutor even said to the judge, we have
to send Pigney and the community, you know, a message

(01:55:12):
by giving him a strict, you know, harsh sentence. And
sure enough he did, and they handcuffed him and took
him out immediately.

Speaker 5 (01:55:19):
He didn't get to say goodbye to his wife. He
didn't get to.

Speaker 6 (01:55:25):
He didn't go home, get to go home and you know,
take care of some things. Usually there's some time in between. Okay,
here's your sentencing. You report back, and this is when
you go to prison.

Speaker 5 (01:55:34):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:55:34):
They took him immediately, and they took him way up
to Jackson and then on to Marquette then for a
month or two and kept him up there and then
brought him back down to cold Water eventually, so he's
been through when they take when they took him from
cold Water to Marquette in October, they shackled his ankles
until they bled because it takes two days for them

(01:55:57):
to get in there. And you know, he also has
one set of clothing. And I looked on the policy
directives on their website again for this, and there's a
list of what they're supposed to be issued two sets
of everything. They've given him one set of clothing, some
different underwear, T shirts and underwear more but one set

(01:56:18):
jumpsuit or you know, one clothing set, and so he
can't get that washed and return to him. So they're
just all these things. There are little irritants and big irritants,
and then there's you know, fearfulness. There's there's absolutely unsafe
things too. I think I don't know if I told
you last time I talked to you. They they've been

(01:56:40):
having counts and they have account every hour during the night,
so they and they flish a big flashlight, not a
little tidy one, but a big flashlight in their faces.
So he's awakened every hour at night, so we see
it sleep deprived, no wonder his blood pressures up. The
stress is pretty great, and you know, the danger is
is ridiculous, and you know, their treatment is just totally unfair.

Speaker 5 (01:57:05):
I mean, they are you know.

Speaker 6 (01:57:07):
People think sometimes I hear people, well people say, well
they are in prison. Well that doesn't mean they're human
rights should be violated. You still need to treat with
some dignity. The food is atrocious. He's diabetic, he can't
eat much of it, and it's you know, and it's
not good food.

Speaker 5 (01:57:23):
When he was in cold Water, he got visitors every.

Speaker 6 (01:57:26):
Weekend and they had vending machines that people could come
in bring quarters and they buy him at least a
somewhat decent meal that he could he could have. Now
that's gone, he has no possibility of having food except
what's in the cafeteria.

Speaker 5 (01:57:42):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:57:42):
Like I said, he stays in his cell and doesn't
leave except for meals or if they make him leave
the cell. He basically stays there as much as he
can because that's his safest place.

Speaker 3 (01:57:55):
So keep in mind, they give this man sixty seven
years old, they give two to ten years, and then
they take him straight and whisk him off to this prison.
But Jared Foegel, the subway pedophile, Yes, molests fifteen little girls. Yep,

(01:58:16):
all right, and he only gets some fifteen years for
five years more than the reverend. And they let him
go home after his sentence and for thirty days and
sit in his home and house arrest with an ankle breaks.
So yeah, that's what which talking I'm gonna make.

Speaker 5 (01:58:30):
Anyway, And he's definitely guilty. That's it was proven to
be innocent. Basically he played guilty.

Speaker 3 (01:58:39):
Yeah, now we only got a couple of minutes. Okay,
what do you want to leave us with?

Speaker 6 (01:58:48):
The Well, I want to leave you with if you
if you can help us, and I hope that I've
told you a story that you will be absolutely enraged about.
Everybody should be enraged about it. And go to be
AO dot org. It's b H B A n c
O dot org and get those phone numbers and make

(01:59:09):
a call. And if you can make a call every day,
that's what we've all been doing, just flood them with
Call the Michigan Department of Corrections and a couple other places,
and please send Grevor Patney a note, a card, something
to let him know the supports there in the prison know.
Those are the immediate things that we want to do.
And if you know of any media or any any

(01:59:32):
organizations or groups that you think would be helpful, then
please you know.

Speaker 5 (01:59:37):
Let us know.

Speaker 6 (01:59:38):
You can sign up to the on the bank Go
site or you could if you would like, you can
email me. I'll give my email out. I have a
real short email I.

Speaker 5 (01:59:47):
Can give you.

Speaker 6 (01:59:48):
It's it's P for the numeral for s E D
the numeral one at gmail dot com.

Speaker 5 (02:00:00):
So P four said, s E D P number four,
s E D number one at gmail dot com. Just
send us an email.

Speaker 6 (02:00:10):
And we will connect you and give you some ideas
and information the information you'd.

Speaker 3 (02:00:15):
Like, okay, Poullie, thank you so much. Vhbanco dot org
and we'll have all that stuff on the Opperman report block.
Thank you so much, Polly, thank you