Mick Hobday: modernexplorers.co.uk / Sean Duff Strawman

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we got something today a little bit out of the ordinary,
a little bit unusual for a topic for our show.
We have Mick hobb Day and he has a website
called modern Explorers dot uk dot co dot uk, Modernexplorers
dot co dot uk and also got a YouTube channel
called modern Explorers, and miccontacted me the other day sent

(01:51):
me some links and I has got this YouTube channel
where this guy has been going around to eighty three
I believe eighty some countries and exploring these ancient like
stone hinge type sites where they got these big rocks
in a circle. And I know there's technical terrence for
all us that will get into that we'll learn from Mick. Hey, Mick,
are you there, Hi?

Speaker 4 (02:12):
How are you doing.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
I'm doing very very good, really interesting stuff. I was
checking out your YouTube channel today and it really it's
very well done and very interesting. Topics is stuff that
I had no idea about. I've heard a stonehenge, you know,
and I've heard of some of these other but I
had no idea that it was this prevalent, like it

(02:34):
was so common, that there's so many countries and so
many different places where they have these stone circles going on.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
No, there's a lot, really is. It's all over the world.
Every country almost has some kind of stone ruins.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Really, before we get to that, tell us about yourself.
Who is MiCab Day And how'd you get involved in
all this?

Speaker 4 (02:56):
What I'm obviously English is you can tell by the
accent I grew up up in Basically I was just
a part of the matrix and had a standard upbringing.
I studied at one of the top universities in England.
I studied genetics of all things, which has nothing to
do with you know what I'm into now, but booked

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on the travel life so much, so much variety in
what you do that I didn't stop. And basically I
was never really into all of these ancient sites at all.
It wasn't particularly a topic that I was that fascinated by.
But everywhere I went there was just always these amazing

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ruins and it's just kind of guided me into my
current line of research, I guess.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
And how old are you now?

Speaker 4 (03:48):
I am thirty seven.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
And do you have like a home like where you
would call home?

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Not really, No, I currently I've just moved to Oslo's
I'm in Norway, but I only came here two weeks ago.
I'm looking for work at the moment, so this is
currently my home for the next probably about six months.
But I just have all my stuff. I have some
you know, some photo albums and some clothes, but it's
all just in my mum's attic, you know. So that's

(04:16):
kind of my base. I guess you'd say, this is just.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
So incredibly fascinating. Now, So when you go to these
different countries, into these different on these missions, I guess
you might call them all these exploratory missions. You can
find employment there. What kind of employment do you pick
up when you get it?

Speaker 4 (04:32):
No, not really, it's just been I've generally worked in
England or the States. I worked I lived in New
York for a few years, and I've worked in France
and Spain and a few countries. But generally I just
kind of save up in England and then travel elsewhere
because you know, the currency in the UK is pretty
good and strong, so I can kind of work three

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months and then travel six months in the in the
developing world. So that's been my basically the structure of
my life so far.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Now, when you got to these other countries. Do you
rent the Cardia brown car with you? How do you
get around?

Speaker 4 (05:05):
Oh, it's all different, It's all totally different. I mean
I've cycled thirteen and a half thousand miles around about
twenty two twenty three European countries. So a lot of
the time I'm on trains and buses and public transport.
So my trips are kind of broken up into backpacking
trips where I'm on the trains and buses and hitch

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hiking sometimes, and then other trips where I'm just I
just take my bike and I'm camping in the middle
of nowhere and spending very little things. I generally do
the cycling because it's so cheap to travel. I can
travel on like ten dollars a day more or less.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Now you have some kind of partner with you because
there's someone filming. Who is it.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
It's been different people all the time. So three years
ago I started, well, actually I wanted to start to film.
I had no experience whatsoever. I didn't study this at all.
And I've got a friend of mine who lives in
San Francisco who is a film producer. So the first
project I did, he was doing the filming and then

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I had another English friend of mine. It's basically just
been friends and people I could get to come on
the trips with me along the way. And the last
trip I did was in Poland. They've got some amazing
stone circles in that country, which I'll talk about later,
but that was my girlfriend who was filming then. So
it's whoever will hold the camera more or less. And sometimes,

(06:27):
you know the trip I did in Jordan when I
videoed Petra, I was just on my own, so I
took a tripod and just kind of put it up
and talked in front of the camera that way.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, you have a real knack for this, because you know,
a lot of times I even have a friend who
does this kind of thing. She travels around, she videotapes
and she's pretty much was on the road as well too,
going through the interesting sites. But there's a lot of wind,
you know, and the film the filming quality is really
good in the audio is really good, and you have
a really great way of presenting it.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
You know.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
It's very enjoyable at Modern Explorers on YouTube and Modern
Explorers that sealed that UK. Now the first trip you
decaid you went on, Okay, Was it specifically to search
out these ancient sites or was it just stumbled on it?

Speaker 4 (07:15):
No, No, it was as I said, I finished university
and I just wanted to go see some of the planet.
I was one really significant moment in my life was
I was studying for my final my final exams. I
had my nose in a book and I was studying
about the structure of proteins on the cells, on the
cell walls of bacteria, and I just looked out the window.

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It's a lovely sunny day, and I thought, do you
know what. I don't want to go into such a
tiny box. I don't want to be such an expert
such a small thing. I wanted to see the world.
So I just I flew to Alaska and I spent
what was a total of three years traveling from Alaska
down to Argentina. And that was just purely just for

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for pleasure I was doing. I worked as a dive
master in Honduras for three months and was just traveling around,
as I said, And then I came across sites such
as the Pyramids in Mexico and Match of Picture in Peru,
and plenty of other sites like a lost city in
the Colombian jungle I went to, which was an amazing trip.

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But this was just I was interested in everything, you know.
I'm one of these people that liked a variety in life.
So I was just literally doing as much as I could,
and I came across these amazing sites. And then in
two thousand and five I moved to New York and
during that time I became obsessed by documentaries. I could

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really tell the mainstream media was kind of full of it,
you know, and I really thought that documentaries were the
purest form of media that we had at that time.
And sure there wasn't so many internet radio shows like yours,
but so I just watched all of these things and
then realized how many sites there were around the world,
and then I became fascinated and started to make the

(09:02):
trips more sort of guide steered towards visiting these sites.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Now, and this is sort of like a creator of
spiritual awakening.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
In you, it has done. That came a lot later, actually,
I mean, I mean, I we're talking about fourteen year period.
So the first probably five years that I was starting
to look for these sites, I didn't really have any
spiritual experiences at all. But for the twenty twelve you know,

(09:32):
this whole end of the world thing that was happening.
On the twenty first of December twenty twelve, I went
to an amazing stone circle complex in England called Avebury,
which has been linked to some ruins they've found on Mars.
It's been linked by Richard Hoagland. I'm not sure if
you've heard of this guy, but I had an amazing

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spiritual experience at this site here sort of it sounds
weird to say, but sort of tie dilations and I
felt energy from one of the stones going up my arm.
And from this moment on, the spiritual experiences have started,
and I can now almost sense energies when I touched
some of the rocks in these stone circles. And I've

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had all sorts of other spiritual experiences to do with
crystal caves and all sorts of stuff. As I said,
I was a left side of the brain person. I
was very scientific and maths based, and five years ago,
if I had been listening to myself say these things,
I would have probably laughed at myself, to be honest
with you, But as I've visited these sites, it's kind
of been pushed on me if you like.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Actually, you know, I'm actually friends with Richard Hole. I've
been on a show a few In fact, I'm going
to send all your information to his producers, so maybe
that he could interview you, because I would love this.
Right now, what kind of faith or religion did you
have before all this?

Speaker 4 (10:55):
I have no religion, actually no specific I mean I
was I guess I would say I didn't believe in anything.
I was a very science based so I didn't believe
in any kind of greater consciousness or anything like that
at all. And now I have no religion, but I
believe that there is a connection between all of us.

(11:16):
I believe in some kind of greater intelligence. I just
don't believe any of the books that have been made
and pushed on us by the system. I think these
are control mechanisms, but I certainly think they hijack probably
the truth in the fact that we have we're all
connected and there's some massive greater consciousness guiding us.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Now you said that you kind of you reached over
to this. I think you said stone and you felt
an energy coming out of it.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Yeah, yeah, okay, Now, yeah, this was a very strange experience.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Sorry, yeah, because I have a question for you, because
now you know, like you were in New York and
a Trump towner, they had that store in there with
all those kind of crystals and formations and stuff like that.
It will be very expensive stuff, you know, in big
giant six foot tall you know, crystal biode whatever they are,
you know, And they have one like that here in

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Vegas too, over on Sahara where they saw stones. But
you can do any crystals all over the place. Now
when I walk into these places, I feel the energy
coming on. I'm bombarded with the energy coming off of
these things. Now is that normal? Does everybody feel that?
Or is it unusual thing?

Speaker 4 (12:27):
I don't think so. I mean I certainly didn't used
to and I don't particularly feel if I walk into
a room with crystals in I don't actually feel energy.
It's something that I have to do. I have to
seek it. I have to touch the stone for a
long period of time. And it's not every stone either.
But one thing I would like to add about a

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lot of these sites that I visit around the world
is that I noticed just the stones are are full
of crystals, absolutely full of crystals, and there's something to
do with I believe personally can crystals are so important
in terms of storing information. I mean crystals. We wouldn't
have technology without the piece of electric effect of these crystals,

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which you know, Michael, chips have quartz in them, and
watchesn't all our iPhones and all these kinds of things
wouldn't work without crystals. And all of these rocks are
just absolutely chocolate block. There was one in Poland I
saw it was also almost like a massive giant crystal.
And the ones with more crystals in I tend to
be able to feel some energy. But it's a strange

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kind of thing. It's not like, as you say, you
walk into a room and you feel the energy from them.
I don't get that at all. It's I have to
touch the stone. I shut my eyes and almost kind
of make a connection to it, and it can take
several minutes sometimes, but I start to feel real tingling
and it sort of grows and goes up my arm
and yeah, but it's fascinating stuff. And as I said,

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it's not every stone, it's just the odd one, like
sometimes it's the central stone in the circle or something
like that.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yeah, I was watching it on the video and you
said it was the one you're the toilet on the
way to the toilets.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
But my offerend found that luckily.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah, when I walk into one of those stores, I
almost have to close my eyes. It's I'm like, I'm
bombarded with the energy. I feel it so strongly. And
I thought I thought everybody experienced that. I thought it's
a good thing to ask the question. I'll have to
go back with some friends and find out and see
if they feel it too.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Mmm.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
So, now what do you think is going on with
all Like what what's the official story of why they
put these stones in a circle and when they're doing
this stuff?

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Oh god, you've rappen off the can of ones there.
It's this official story is always the same, pretty much.
They're always just tombs or burial chambers or something like this.
You know, there's these dolmon structures that are like stone
tables that they always just say are burial mounds. But
they don't always find bones at these structures. It's it's

(14:58):
quite insane, really, I mean, like there's probably one hundred
thousand Dolmen in the world, and they find the odd
Dolman with some bones or some ceramic pieces or something,
and they date those because you can't date stone. I'm
not sure if you're aware, but stone cannot be dated.
So they find these these shards of ceramics and bits
of bone and they date those and then they assume

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that those were from the builders, whereas I personally can't
believe that. I mean, it's like if we found in
five thousand years time, if they found remains of a
can of coke at Stonehenge, they would think it was
five thousand years old, you know, So it's probably people
that are just using these structures for shelter or something
at a later date. So it's always always this kind

(15:41):
of story, Like I mean with the Pyramids in Egypt.
You know, they didn't find any bodies inside, but they
say their tombs and I think there is a much
much bigger picture, you know. I think there was there's
an energy grid that was formed by all of these structures.
They're all like they're all forming the like a Hagen's grid.
I'm not sure if you've heard of that, but they're

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all like geometrically placed around the planet and they're not working. Now,
you know, ruins are ruined so that there's not not
particularly working very well now. But I think back in
the day when these are built, there would have been
some kind of called it force field or energy matrix
or something like this. I think this is what was
going on. Actually, you know.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
These these mounds, okay, because they even had mounts here
in the United States, and the Native Americans had mountains too, correct, Yeah, no, no,
But do we know that there's people buried under all
those mounds or they were saying that, No.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
I don't don't think so. I mean there's there's also
I mean there's a lot of mounds around the world.
I mean, you've even got some in the States that
they've found they've found giant skeletons inside, right, So I
don't know. They don't always find mounds. They don't. Sorry,
they don't always find skeletons in these mounds, not at all.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Okay, So and then we're not know the purpose of these mounts, do.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
We No, No, we don't. I mean, and there's there's
plenty of them around as well. And the problem is
is that, as I said, all these things are ruined.
So there's a lot of mounds that are just ignored
because they just looked like little hills, you know, but
these could have actually been built by the civilization that
was building all these structures.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Now I'm going to go off on a tangent for
a second because we both mentioned Stonehenge. Now there's that
video on YouTube where they're like rebuilding Stonehenge. Is the
Stonehenger we see today? Is it the original Stonehener has
been rebuilt?

Speaker 4 (17:31):
Because Oh, it's almost impossible to tell, isn't it. You know,
the way that the control system has been controlling this
whole industry for so long, I think it's impossible to say.
I mean, I saw some photos online when they originally
found Stonehenge, and it didn't look like it does nowadays,
So I would think that it was different when it

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was actually built.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Oh no, that's interesting. So then the powers that be
are actually ten bring with these things.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
I would think. So, I mean they must remove There
must be a hell of a lot of artifacts found
that they found at these pyramids and these underground sites
that they've removed. And you know that the ones that
were possibly technology technology based, they've you know, they've they've
taken them away like Indiana Jones style. You know, they've
hit them in a warehouse somewhere and nobody gets to

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play with them. But they mean they have found something
as the Bagdad battery. I'm not sure if you're aware
of that. There's that, you know, there's the odd odd
artifact that sneaks through and suggests that there was some
technology back back in the day. But no, I think
they definitely do a lot of tampering. They find these
sites and then they get their teams in there, they
adjust them and let us discover what they will allow

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us to discover.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
I would think, hmm, And who do you think they
are doing it?

Speaker 4 (18:50):
They are, well whoever this the people are that are
the owners of the planet. I mean, I don't want
to name names, but there's they have, some say Illuminatis,
some say the Darker Bar. But the people who work
for these guys who own the planet and own the
banking system. And I would think that they have to control,

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you know, our flow of information. So I would think
they've been doing it for hundreds, if not thousands of years.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
So then, and then what do you think the purposes
of these stars were?

Speaker 4 (19:23):
I think they had different purposes. I mean the pyramids
from from what I've seen online and from people's research,
people like Richard Hogan, I think that the pyramids were
some kind of bridge towards to the next dimension.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Up.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Let's put it that way. I mean, in the next
dimension you have things like free energy and time is
there is no time, basically that, And I would think
that these structures and this grid system that I was
talking about were used in some way to allow people
to suit get in touch with their higher selves or

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to do whatever they wanted to do. I mean sometimes
I think, like the pyramids in Egypt were probably used
for creating energy. I think some of the Dolman structures
around the world were possibly used for more meditation purposes.
But I think that whatever they were, whatever they were
doing was the sum of everything, was to create a
bridge between this dimension and higher vibrational dimensions. I would think.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Don't we know that some of the ones in Mexico
were used by blood sacrifice?

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure they were used for many
different things over the years. As I said, you find
these bones and ceramic shards at some of these Dolmen,
and I'm pretty sure that they were built, say X
number of thousands of years ago, and then they were
used at a later date. I mean, if I was a
guy walking around caveman times or this kind of thing,

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and I found a dolman. I would probably move in
if it was big enough. So I would think that
they've been used for many different things by many different
vializations over the years. And I mean, like you look
at the structures in Peru. You've got the massive megalithic blocks,
and then built on top of that you've got the smaller,
smaller building blocks, which is what the Inca's built. So
I'm sure the ones in Mexico we use for all

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sorts of different things because that part of the world
has been heavily populated for a long period of time.
So yeah, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Now you mentioned these these well, first of all, it's
about what's called dormlins. What is they called dormant dormant
And also like pretty much like a series of racks
with a dormant tap another slare brock on tap.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
Well, it's it's Gaelic for the stone table, okay, and
that's basically what it is. You get these uprights and
then the flat capstone across the top. And these are
a fascinating thing. Our video ds in the Middle East,
in the UK and Spain, but they're just found all
over the place, like Columbia. You even have those in
Salem in in whereas in New Hampshire, I think it

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is in the northeast of the state. There's an amazingly
One thing that fascinated me, and something that really hoped
me into this kind of topic, was when I found
out that in Korea it has thirty thousand of these dolmen.
Thirty thousand such a tiny piece of land. So there's
nineteen thousand in South Korea and then another eleven thousand
in North Korea, which is just amazing. And the thing

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about these structures as well is that there's I mean,
they're not all exactly the same. Sometimes you have different
like table legs if you like, and different sizes and
shapes and all this kind of stuff, but the theme
is always there. And as I said, they're repeated all
over the world. So that was one of the things
that made me think the official story was probably not
giving us the whole truth.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Actually, yeah, and even though they're relatively small, you know,
compared to you know, pyramids, but still like that dorm piece,
that table top piece is a couple of tons. Right
in many.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
Parts the largest in the world is in South Korea
and it's three hundred tons. And there's there's one in
Island called Brown Hill Dolman, which is well, I mean
that they estimate always because they haven't taken them off
and measured them. But it's something like one hundred and
fifty tons. And you put that into perspective. You know,
we're bowing seven four seven is eighty tons, So you're
talking about like the four or five of these compacted

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into one rock and then placed on top of all
these other stones. I mean, they were supposed to have
done this with you know, rolling it on tree trunks
and pulling it with ropes, and I just saying, come on,
you're trying a kid.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
No one's doing it today, you know what I mean.
If it were such a you know, a natural pastime
for people to do that, you think people would still
be doing it now. Yeah. And also too, when I
was looking at those mountains in Spain, you were you're
hiking through these mountains in Spain, some of these stone
circles are way way up the hell out of nowhere.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
Yeah. Yeah, some of them are at the top of mountains.
And with these particular ones, I'm not sure exactly where
they got the stones from. So I mean, you could
say they just got from around the corner and took
these stones to the top. But there are other places
around the world, such as oh Yante Tambo is a
place in Peru where they've taken these huge megallythic things

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that are like fifty tons sixty tons some of them,
and they've taken them. They've they've quarried them halfway up
a mountain and then taken them down into a valley
and up the other side into another hill. So they've
actually taken them, carried them against gravity. And you look
at these examples and again you just think, come on,
they did this with rope who you're trying to kid?

Speaker 3 (24:34):
So what do you do? You think maybe it was
gone by giants or they had a levitation.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
You know, I wish I knew, I wish I knew.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
To go and don't have a look now about this.
You know, you hear everybody now talking about these lay lines.
I'm fifty four years old, right, and you hear people
don't mind what the lay lines and the grid and
the energy grid and stuff like that. And now I
can remember just about twenty years ago and people started
talking about, you know, but has this ever been confirmed
or documented in any kind of way that we can

(25:04):
really look at something and say, yes, this is a
true fact.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
It's been documented, but not officially so, I mean, it
originally started in England with Saint Michael's lay Line, which
there's all these churches called Saint Michael's along this line,
and there's all these stone circles, and this guy was
dowsing and feeling the energies and he marked points on
a map and then basically drew a line. And he

(25:32):
was kind of the first guy that came up with
the idea. And in more recent times you've got a
lot of people doing dowsing and energy work and they
follow these lines. But it's more like, I mean, the
thing that convinced me the most about this kind of
thing is the mathematics involved in some of these sites.
For example, if you look at if you imagine the

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Earth is a circle and you're looking from one of
the poles to Ireland to ankor what is one hundred
and forty four degrees exactly like two fifths of the
circle from one to the other and then Ankle what
to Gezer is seventy two degrees, so a fifth of
the circle and then Gezer to Avebury is three sevenths

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of or maybe it's four sevenths I forget, but it's
you know, there's there's certain ratios and fractions involved with
all of these sites and how they're sort of distributed
around the world. So that was one thing that made
me think, Okay, there could be something to this. But
in terms of like official documentation, I mean, people call
this a pseudoscience and archaeologists would just laugh at this

(26:39):
kind of idea. But for me is why the hell not.
I mean, everything in the universe is energy, so why
wouldn't there be energy flowing through flowing through the earth
and flowing through the ground.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
But the thing is, you know, to like line up
all these different megalists and monolists and stuff like that, like,
aren't there just so many combinations that you know, after
a while you have to hit on something that the
line up, you know.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
But there's not that many. I mean, for for Ankle,
what to Easter Island to be one hundred and forty
four degrees is I mean like the islands right in
the middle of the Pacific, And I'm just giving you
I'm just quoting you a few there's a there's a
guy called Hugh Newman who's written a book called Earth Grids,
and he states all of these different fractures. It's not

(27:26):
just while too that there's there's hundreds of these things
and people are following these these lay lines with dousing rods.
And I mean, I hear what you're saying, and I
wouldn't rule it out at all, because why would I?
But for me, when I look at the numbers and
the that the amount of incidences of this happening, it's

(27:47):
it's too much of a coincidence for me.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
It's interesting you mentioned that when you said that the
East Realm was out the middle of the ocean. Do
you have any knowledge of pyramids or this kind of
a the stone circles and underwater under the ocean or
under bandits of water.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
The best one is because you know, there's the theory
is that there's there was a global civilization and it
was pre Ice age and that they had more technology
or advanced technology. So you kind of split it into
were they global, were how old were they and you know,
and how much technology did they have? And one of
the really big pieces of evidence is a place called Yonaguni,

(28:29):
which is I think their pyramids. It's hard to tell,
but they are so deep off the water of some
islands in Japan that they have to be pre Ice age.
And there's other structures as well. There's some off the
coast of India. You've got some off the coast of Miami.
There's Bimini Road it's called, which has been stated as

(28:50):
possibly being part of Atlantis, which is I'm not sure
about that personally, but yeah, there are structures underwater plenty. Yeah,
I bet there's a hell of a lot more to discover,
because it's a hard thing to define. We can only
really look around the waters around the coast, but off
in the middle of the ocean that there could be
a hell of a lot more.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Remember just recently there was that big stone or cement
circle that they found underneath the water and they were
going to do an expedition down there, and you never
heard from those guys.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
Again, was that in the Middle East?

Speaker 3 (29:25):
It might have been I don't know, Middle East. It
might have been like the off of Greece or something
like that. I forget exactly.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
Okay, Yeah, I didn't actually hear about that. I didn't
know about that too.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, I'll have to take a look at that, because
I remember I was, I was very fascinated by it
and this guy they had the expedition right above it,
you know, and they were diving down there and stuff,
and then you never heard anything about him again, you know,
maybe they got.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
To Yeah, well, there's there's also something in the Mediterranean
as well, like the cart ruts, the cart ruts which
are famous for on the islands of Malta. Those also
I'm actually editing a film for that right now. And
those they look exactly like they like it's you know,
it's they look like carts have just been dragged through
the rock and they've created these they look like train

(30:05):
tracks more or less. But some of those are actually
leading off into the water, and they've been videoed by
a guy called Graham Hancock as well, who's shown them
at certain depths. So I think there's could be a
hell of a lot more to discover underwater. But there
was also so much underground. I mean, there's the underground
cities of Turkey and I've just released a film about

(30:27):
Petra and they estimate that between two and fifteen percent
of that is above ground and the rest is underground.
They're still finding stuff there, so I think, you know,
there's tunnels all across them. Europe, they've found more circles
underneath Stonehenge, So I think even what we're looking at now,
which is a lot of evidence on the surface, there's

(30:48):
still a hell of a lot more.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
And you were saying too in the film I was
watching it that it looks like some of this stuff
is buried.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
Yeah, oh yeah, definitely, I would think so. I mean,
as I said that the most famous one is the
recent discovery at Stonehenge. There's there's circles like layered under
underneath the circle there, and there must be there must
be things underground, I really think so. I mean, I
went to the city called kay Mackley in Turkey and Cappadocia,

(31:20):
and that was just an amazing site because you've got
thirteen stories underground this city it's a city basically, and
the ventilation system there was so so clever because you've
got the proportions of the room. They changed it. The
pressure changes in each of the rooms so that there's
a flow of oxygen going through. And this was one

(31:43):
moment when I visited this like a few years ago
where I thought, well they really they really could be
so much underground.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Now that's fascinating. And you were allowed to go down
there and explore this underground city.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
Oh yeah, there's Yeah, the tourists go down there. You
just pay a ticket and you go down. You can
visit all of the and I think there's forty different cities,
and they were built to house between twenty and sixty
thousand people. And they also have circular doors that you
can only shut from the inside. So there's there's theories

(32:16):
out there about you know, they were running from some
cataclysm and they were trying to shut themselves in or
maybe aliens or something like this. But yeah, there's all
sorts of theories about that. But this is an amazing side.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
This is all fascinating stuff. I got to tell you. Okay,
let's take a little commercial break. We're with Mick Hobday
and his website is called Modern Explorers do CEO, do
UK and on there is the link to his YouTube channel,
which is called Modern Explorers. Fascinating stuff is really I
would love me to just tag along with you.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
You're welcome anytime.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
I would love me as long as you bring your
camera yeah, I'm in such a run here in my life,
I'd say I got to get out of here, get
down into a hole down Edward.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
You can take a week off, I wish I could.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Okay, we'll be right back with more of a Mike coop.
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(38:19):
Indiana Jones type guy traveling around. I'm jealous and I'm.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
Jealous, you know, I want to compliment you have.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
The kind of life I would I would like you know.
His website's Modern Explorers dot co dot UK. And uh,
I got to take my hat off to you that
reminds you nights because you said you met your girlfriend
this way and she's like your twin flame. A very
nice email you sent me to by the way.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Very very.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Uh, I don't have the word I looking for, like deep,
very thoughtful. Now, now you met this woman just on
your travels, because it's kind of unusual to meet someone
had the same kind of interest to do this with you, right, Yeah, we.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Met in South Africa actually at one of the most
amazing sites I've actually visited, because they have something like, well,
there's so many stone circles down there. They're not sure
how many there are. They estimate between a million and
ten million. So I was down there filming with a
friend of mine and she was also visiting the site.

(39:21):
It's a guy called Michael Tellinger who's also set up
a Buntu and she was more interested in that project
actually than the stone circles. But we met and had
some quite crazy synchronistic things happening. We experienced telepathy. She
made my heart chakra almost expand and felt like it

(39:43):
was going to explode. So it was very much like
a very spiritual moment in my life. And nothing happened
for a year but when we met up again and
we traveled around India. So she's very interested in traveling,
but not so much interested in stone circles, but is
growing because I guess I've got an infectious personality. These

(40:08):
circles down and it's Adam's calendar are actually one of
my films is about this, and it's it's an amazing,
amazing because you've got a megalithic stone circle, in fact,
the complex, because there's a circle and then there's all
these other stones around it and they disrupt the magnetic force.
I felt energy at one of these stones, and it's

(40:29):
on top of this kind of escarpment and you can
see some potential pyramids off in the valley there, and
then these these circles, some of these other stone circles
which are dry stone walls, they're made of smaller blocks.
They actually ring like bells and you can play this
this stone wall like a xylophone. And it's from that

(40:49):
we flew over it. And some of these circles from
above match Hindu symbology. And it's one site that for
some reason is being completely covered up by mainstream archaeology.
But in my film, again I question, why would you
that's they're said to be just they were used by
the Buntu people to keep cattle in but god knows

(41:10):
why they would build millions of them.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
In what had millions of care. Now let me ask
a question, isn't it too there was like a mining
operation there too? Is that correct?

Speaker 4 (41:21):
Yeah, that's right. They're supposed to have mined gold basically,
and it's Michael's theories are related to Zacharai's Stitchen's work,
and he says that it was where they talk about
in the Sumerian text where they mined all the gold,
because the red rock down there in South Africa is
absolutely full of the gold mineral. So it's yeah, that's

(41:43):
that's what he states in his work.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Are they still finding gold in there?

Speaker 4 (41:48):
I would think so. I'm not sure, to be honest
with you.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
And then what do you make of all that stitching stuff,
that stitching series.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
I don't pay too much attention to it, to be honest,
if you it mightn't. I don't pay as much attention
as other people towards mythology. I appreciate very much that
the myths are telling stories, you know, around the campfire
and this kind of thing, and I'm sure there's truth
in there. I just find it hard to be able
to pick out the truth, so I don't really pay

(42:18):
too much attention to it. Although there's a guy called
David Talbot who has this electric universe theory, who has
done some amazing work with drawing similarities between a lot
of these myths. But it's just my particular side of things.
It's more about the traveling and the filming. So you know,
you can't you can't cover everything, can you. But I'm
not sure about Sitchin, is my actual honest answer.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
Okay, And what do you make of because now it's
really popular here in the States, especially these ancient aliens.
We have like a TV channel here there's twenty four
hour a day ancient aliens.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
You know really?

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Oh oh yeah, you know who wants it too, Rupert Murdach.
It's a Rupert Murdach station. It's called the History Channel.
Oh yeah, that's why I don't trust it.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
You know.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
They're right off the back, you know, look where it's
coming from.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting stuff, really, and they go to
some great sites. I wish I had their money and
their resources to do what they do, because I think
they probably they go to some amazing places, but I'm
sure there's there's more they could do being a mainstream channel.
But it's a step in the right direction in my opinion,
and good luck to them.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Okay. Now there's also what do you make of the
theory that the way these stones and these megaliths are
laid out, that there's a connection to the stars.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
Well, there's I can believe it. Let's put it that way.
I mean, there's all sorts of strange anomalies that they're
finding on different planets out there, isn't it. There was
a recent one on one of the asteroids, I think, Siri,
I'm not sure how you pronounce it. Ce r E
s they found some kind of strange light phenomena as

(43:54):
they were going around this thing. They had this light
shining on the surface, which if it was a reflection
it wouldn't do. As as the spacecraft was going around,
there's the monolith on Phoebos. There's Yapetus, the Saturn moon,
which looks like it's kind of like two balls been
squashed together. I'm not sure if you've seen that one,
but there's like a strange ridge going all the way

(44:16):
around the center of it. But the strongest link for
me is again coming back to Richard Hogan's work that
he presented his talk to the UN in nineteen ninety three,
and the similarities with the layout of Avebury in England,
the site where I had my twenty twelve experience, and Sedona,
where there's the face and these pyramids is quite striking.

(44:37):
So I can truly believe that it wasn't just a
global civilization, that there was a civilization that went to
other planets also.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
But I was specifically thinking of how they say that
the three pyramids are in sync with some kind of
constellation three stores, oh Ryan, Yeah, all right, right, yeah,
what do you make of that? That kind of stuff, because.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
Yeah, definitely. I mean I was in Poland and we
videoed one site called Zibnitza and there was three of
the stone circles there were supposed to be laid out
like a Ryan. There was also another site called vin Shori.
My Polish pronunciation is awful, but it looks like wes Siyori,

(45:23):
but apparently said vin Shori or something like this. But
they they have the layout of the stone circles there
looks exactly like the plays. So I can believe that
there is a link there for sure. Whether or not
whoever built these things was just looking up at the
sky and seeing the pattern and then matching it down

(45:45):
on the Earth, I'm not sure. But there's I mean,
there's this. If you look at the Dogons, you know,
the Dogons in Africa, they knew about the Sirius B
you know, one of the stars in the star system,
serious before we even did. So there's there's suggestions that
the link to the stars is not just us looking
up there and copying it, but there's something stronger and

(46:07):
deeper than that.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Now. Also, to you were the Barsnian Pyramids right now?
When I look at those, they look like mountains to me, like,
are we convinced that you've done some excavation that we're
convinced that these are real pyramids?

Speaker 4 (46:23):
No, if I'm honest with you, I'm not convinced. Actually,
it's this was when I went there, I excavated for
two weeks and I didn't I wasn't filming at the time,
and it's one of on my bucket list is to
go back there and do some more filming. But there's
something going on there for sure, because when I went there,
I had actually I cycled there from Turkey, so by

(46:44):
the time I arrived to do this excavation, I'd already
cycled three thousand miles and I was having When you're
on the saddle for the twelve hours a day, you
get all sorts of problems in your saddle areas, but
that way, so I was suffering from a month of
sowness and all sorts of things. And under the pyramids
there's these tunnel where they're supposed to have healing properties,

(47:04):
and I experienced that firsthand. These things went away within
a day, and other people who were excavating at the
time were also you know, one person's asthma was basically
got a lot better, and other people had headache problems
and all these kinds of things, so that there was
the whole group basically experienced some kind of medical benefit.

(47:25):
But when you look at the stuff online, they're kind
of those who think it's pyramids are only showing one
part of the story, and those who don't are also
only showing one part of the story. There isn't really
a kind of a film out there. I don't think
that's showing the whole thing, because from one side, they
really look like pyramids. That particularly the biggest one, it's

(47:46):
very very convincing in shape. But then from the other
side there's this kind of this piece of lamb which
covers it up completely. So I'm not sure what to
think about that. I think there's something there to investigate.
But I will say one thing, while I used to
while I was there, I used to run these expeditions,
if you like, to walk to the top of the pyramids.

(48:07):
And on one time we were up there, and there's
a valley next to where these these pyramids are, where
there's all these hills that look like pyramids. And I'm
not sure again what to think about this. I did
write a report about it, but I wouldn't be surprised
if there was pyramids in this other valley. But I'm
not I'm undecided. I haven't made any conclusions about the

(48:30):
place yet, and I must go back as soon as
I can get some money to do so.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Now, you said that you experienced the healing there. Now
was this something like where you could feel your body
repairing itself, or like you went to sleep and you
walk up the next day. Was always that instantaneous? What
was that like?

Speaker 4 (48:45):
No, it was just the next day. I mean, as
I said, I was suffering from from saddles saunas basically,
which was really bad. And I just I wasn't expecting
these to have this healing happened to me. It was
almost skeptical about it, to be honest with you. So
I wasn't looking for it at all. But we had

(49:06):
to work in these tunnels, just shifting dirt out basically,
and one day I had all this saunas and then
the next day it had gone. And as I said
to you earlier, I've cycled thirteen and a half thousand
miles around Europe, so I've experienced saddle saunas and then
stop cycling and then it go away. But it went
away so quickly, it was basically overnight.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
Did you experience any other kind of beneficial body experiences
up there.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
No, I didn't, if I'm honest with you, but there
was some of the other people had some interesting experiences
and it was a very It was a life changing
moment for me because before this time I hadn't really
met many people who I would consider my sole group
who were awake, and I met a lot of people
this time, and we were seeing we saw some strange

(49:54):
things in the sky. Not sure if they were UFOs
or if they were probes or or drones. Sorry, but
it was we saw taking photos. We saw orbs in
the photos. So this is one of the reasons why
I think there's there's something there to investigate, but I'm
not exactly sure if there are pyramids or not.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Now, when you've been to these different locations and you
could feel like the tingling when you put your hand
over the stone, you could feel the tingling, did you
ever feel anything in your like your brain, like you're
thinking more clearly or more lucively or anything like that.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
I've had. I've had energy in my pioneer gland, and
in terms of thinking lucively, no, but this this one
cycle you needs to In Poland, we met some psychic
people there who said actually that me and my girlfriend
were there in a previous life and these kinds of things.

(50:50):
And as soon as we arrived at the stone circle,
we were early and we were meeting these people there
when we were about thirty minutes before them. As soon
as we arrived at the circle, I felt I had
to go and meditate next to the it's called the
Warrior Stone. It's in the center of one of these circles,
and I touched it, and while I was there, I
was it's hard to I mean, with these these kind

(51:12):
of experiences I have, it's hard to put, you know,
to be specific about these things. But I was basically
guided to connect this circle to all of the other
sites I had visited around the world, and I'd been
told by people and seeing things online that I was
to do this visually. So I was just meditating touching
this stone, feeling energy in my pioneal gland and in

(51:33):
my route chakra, and there's tingling in my hands, and
remembering going to all these dolmen, and remembering looking at
the footage of me on camera and joining bridges between
them in a kind of like I was imagining Google Earth,
you know, and like zooming in and out and drawing
a red line between these things. And that was definitely
some kind of experience of the brain, some kind of meditation,

(51:57):
spiritual experience, for sure, and I've had a few of
those at different places around the world. What about dreams
or visions, No, not really, I mean, in terms of visions,
I've seen nothing specific to do with it, to do
with the megalithic sites. Actually, I mean I've had spinning
pyramids and lights. I mean, when I was having this experience,

(52:20):
I was getting spinning pyramids and all sorts of different
colors in my vision. But I've not had anything in
terms of like I saw an alien come into my
vision and start talking to me or anything like that.
But I have had other kind of not visions, but
almost like memories. I had a kind of past life memory,
I think when I was touching one of these stones.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Oh really, and what did you remember? A bunch of pass.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
Life I remembered. It's quite strange. I don't remember that much,
but I had this memory of being wearing one of
these metal suits of armor, and it was the memory
is quite specific, so I'll just tell you exactly what
I remembered. I basically remembered wearing one of these heavy

(53:07):
metal suits of armor walking in a field next to
this wall, and I'm just walking along and all of
a sudden, somebody jumps over the wall and kicks me
in the head, and then I'm knocked out. And the
next thing I remember, I'm hanging upside down and they
cut me open. They did a cut right across my
stomach and this was the moment I died, So that

(53:29):
was it. That was the only piece that this was
a memory I had, But it was it was like
a vision, I guess, but I didn't actually kind of
see see anything, but I could just it's like a feeling.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
You know.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
I'm not sure if you've had anything like this yourself,
but it's almost like that when you remember when you
were a child. You can't see anything, but you just
know what was there and you kind of feel what
was there at the time. So this is quite quite interesting.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
No, now, you said that spill came up to you
and they thought that they remembered you from a past life.
Did you remember yeah too?

Speaker 4 (54:00):
Or no? No, No, I don't really have any specific
psychic abilities. I don't think these people had been. They
were quite psychic and they were we activated some crystals.
We basically met these two people at the Stone Circle
in Poland and they came up to us and said, hey,
would you like to activate some crystals, and being a

(54:22):
traveler and open to anything, I was like, yeah, yeah, sure.
Well I mean this was my girlfriend talking because it
was all in Polish, but we basically said yeah, yeah, sure.
So we went and did. They were meditating, and I
just just told us to sit there and be a
part of it. But I didn't didn't remember anything, I
didn't see anything. I'd never recognized these people. But during
this meditation, in this crystal activation, they said that they

(54:45):
said something quite strange things. They said that they thought
I was there when Stonehenge was built. They remembered us
at another stone circle. As I said, me and my
girlfriend were there as a past life. But it was
all from them. And I open to these ideas, but
it's not something I would say. It was definitely. I
wouldn't quote them or anything like that, you know, It's

(55:06):
just it's just what they said.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
Okay. And when when you visited these sites, have you
ever heard a feeling of deja rul like you've been
there before?

Speaker 4 (55:14):
No? I haven't. I really want to as well. It
annoys me. It really annoys me because I've heard other
people say, oh, they went to some Dolman and they
remembered being there. I haven't. I really wish I did. Now.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
What about like the local folklore and stuff like that,
because I know, I know in one of the videos
I watched the locals, there was like a legend that
there was a dragon was involved in one of these locations.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
That's right, Yeah, but that's always that was in Poland,
wasn't it in the the chakra in Vaval Castle there
was a dragon supposed to be living under a cave,
in a cave under the under this chakra. But I
mean again, that's a said to you, I don't go
into the mythology. I'm interested in it and I listened
to it. It's just not hard core evidence, you know,

(56:05):
I'm left brain de sided at the left side of
the brain person. I'm more sort of like into facts
and hardcore evidence than than the myths. But fascinating, and
I can you know that the dragon mythology is one
that fascinates me because of the whole reptilians owning the
planet and all this kind of stuff. Then it's there's
a hell of a lot of reptilians in the writings

(56:28):
all around the planet, you know, in China, in Thailand
and the South South America. So that's something that interests
me a lot. And yeah, I don't It's not that
I don't believe it, it's just that I'm not prepared
to put that as all my energy into investigating it because.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
I think almost every culture around the planet does speak
of dragons, you know, and yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
It's it's quite a coincidence.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
It's kind of weird because you haven't we don't have
any rate where they all go. You know, what do
you think we haven't covered that you'd like to talk about?

Speaker 4 (57:05):
Wow, let me have a look. I've got a list
here of all sorts of stuff. Well, as I was
saying that my stuff is looking into this ancient civilization,
and I'm going more because I'm traveling, I'm going into
more whether they were they were global, And I think
there's enough sort of similarities in temples that you know,

(57:27):
there's temples in India and Guatemala that look very similar.
And then there's you know, statues on Easter Island that
looks similar to some of the statues on Sulawesi in Indonesia.
The petricklyfts as well, there's similarities in Petrick glyphs in
different parts of the world. So you know, that's the
kind of evidence that to suggest it's global looking at

(57:52):
I'd like to mention Klaud Donner's work. I mean, I'm
not sure if you've if you've heard of him, but
he found some really interesting stuff in there's a twelve
thousand year old golden pyramid which has got an eye
on the top of it. It looks exactly like the
one on your dollar bill. That was one piece of evidence.
I thought, you know, Jesus Christ, where did that come from.

(58:15):
He also found a disc that was supposed to be
I forget the age of it, but it's some old
artifact they found and it has basically has the sperm
entering the egg and then the embryo developing on this
circular disc. There's the work of Richard Thompson and Michael
Cremo as well, and they talk about there's possibly been
civilizations on this planet for millions of years, and they

(58:38):
have this date in their book evidence of you know,
some people, we know a coal mine two miles under
the ground finding some necklace embedded in the coal, which
is you know, again, these are just things that you
just just get covered up very quickly, and their mind
blowing to me.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Really yeah, there's actually a lot of stories like that
about the coal miners finding stuff we're down there on
the ground.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
Uh yeah, I can believe it.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
Really bizarre. Now, this pyramid with the eye do you
have a bit. Are there pictures of that on the internet?

Speaker 4 (59:09):
Yeah, there is.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
What's it called?

Speaker 4 (59:11):
I think if you google, I think it's Let me
try now, if I think, if you just google Clouds
Donner Pyramid, I let's see if that works.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
Yeah, if you google that, google Klauds Donner pyramid eye,
and you get this artifact that he's found. And he's
he does some some talks online, it's all on YouTube,
and he's found some some of the collection of some
of his artifacts. He's found some amazing stuff. Really. You
can type in the stone disc as well, embryo disc.
I think if you type that in it would stone disc,

(59:44):
it would bring up the same thing.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
Oh yeah, yeah, okay, yeah yeah, it came right up.
That's pretty creepy. Yeah, it's got this.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
It's got like I said, you can see like the
whole fertilization and the whole process of the embryo developing.
And this is supposed to be I'm not sure of
the age, but it's an ancient artifact for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
I found the pyramid. I didn't find the other one yet.
This is bad enough. Let me ask you a question now,
because I almost get like a little nervous feeling when
we talk about this stuff. Do you get like a
little nervous kind of feeling when you talk about this.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
No, I'm not scared of anything, Cocky English guy me.
There's talking about things to mention. There is one site
I would like to mention that it doesn't never get
talked about, because it's one I've discovered quite out by
accident when I was traveling through Bulgaria. It's a place

(01:00:38):
called per perry Con. There's another place I have to
go back and visit, and this one is amazing because
you've got carved into this hill all these different rock,
these shapes, let's put it that way. There's a massive
chamber that they were using for water storage and one
of these one of these like carvings. It looks exactly

(01:00:58):
like the slot that you put a CPU processor in
a motherboard of a computer. And there's some all thoughts
of carvings in this place pop perry Con. I would
like to just put that out there because i'd like
other people to visit in video, because in case I
don't get the chance to go back, because it's a
piece of evidence that doesn't get talked about much. But
it's one that I think is pretty significant.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
What's your next strip got planned?

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
Well, I've got to get some money first. Then I
would like to dromleogalithic blocks. That just again it's it's
a tie to all the other parts of the world,
and one that's so hard to explain. I did do
tried the crowd funding project to go film the wheels
of Asrak and the structures found in Kazakhstan. I'm not

(01:01:46):
sure if you're aware of these, but there's some they're
like it's like Nasca lines. There these huge structures carved
into the desert and you can only really see them
from above. So I tried this crowdfunding project, which was disastrous. Actually,
I just think you're very well too. So that's high
up on my on my list of places to go.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
But have you visited.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
But the Mascal Lines, Yes, I have.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
That was amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
Really, what do you make of that? There?

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
Oh? I don't know what to make of it, to
be honest with you. I mean, there's I'm pretty sure
they were speaking to people in the sky, and I'm
sure that that was probably extra terrestrial. I mean, I
can't really come up with any other explanation for it.
I mean, people have that have other ideas, but none
of them that convinced me at all. I mean that

(01:02:37):
you've got these massive monkeys and a bird hummingbird, and
those trappersoidal shapes, and there's also that mountain that's looks
like it's just got the top cut off of it,
So I would think that this was I don't even
know that this wasn't created by extra terrestrials, but I
have no evidence to back that up, so I'm not

(01:02:57):
stating that. I just it's an amazing site and there's
definitely something fishy going on down there, and also just
another place i'd like to visit if anyone wants to
sponsor me a trip to go to Antarctica, because they've
supposed to have found a lot of ruins down there
as well, haven't they. You've had recently buzzoldering and some
of your politicians over there in the States have been

(01:03:18):
visiting Antarctica to go and see what's supposed to be
some ancient ruins they've found under the ice and under
the ground there back.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
At the Nascal lines for a second, Now, when you
were down there, did you get in a helicopter or
a plane or something like that or how'd you look
at them?

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
Yeah? I just flew over them. It was this was
a long time ago. This is when I first started traveling,
so this was probably thirteen years ago, but it was
just I think it was like forty five bucks for
a flight over or something.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
Oh that's a great deal, okay, and oh that's great.
Now on your website, is there a place where people
can donate to try and fund your travels and stuff?

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
Not yet, Well, if there's I've set up a project
or an account on this website called Patreon p atr
eo N. There is a link on my website to this,
and it's this. It's kind of like crowdfunding, but more
on a sort of permanent basis, So you would give
like a few dollars a month or something, and if

(01:04:14):
I can get enough money, then I would be doing
this regularly. Because all of my everything I've done so
far has been self funded. And although I'm you know,
I have this genetics degree and all this kind of thing,
I've never actually had a career, so I'm always starting
at the bottom of the ladder and struggling to get money.
So everything's self funded. So I would love to somehow.
If people could support me by subscribing to YouTube or

(01:04:37):
liking my Facebook page, then I would love to have
some numbers to go to some companies and get sponsorship
or support on this Patreon website. Would be would be awesome,
but you know, I don't want to beg or anything,
but it would definitely help me out. I need to
get a new camera. Everything I've done so far has
been done on this cheap one hundred and fifty dollars
sony handycam, So some new equipment would be be great.

(01:05:00):
And then they you know, we can compete with what's
on the TV and all that biased stuff they have
on there.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Yeah, you know, it's the same thing here, and you know,
like the equipments so cheap, and you just you know,
held together with with bubble gum, and then you know,
and all the people doing the really interesting work. You know,
no one's finding it. You know, no one wants to.
It's a ship.

Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
It's sickening.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
Really, I got some stuff sitting over here I need
to transcribe. It's just incredible stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
But there's there's waste to do it. And I sold
you on if people don't, you know, I don't really
I will continue doing this and until the day I die,
because it's that's a passion of mine and I you know,
I enjoy I enjoy doing things like putting it, going
under a douvet and hiding. That's that's my my sound booth.
But my sound recording studio is to go under my douvet,

(01:05:53):
you know. And I like doing this. I like living
like this a little bit. But just be nice to
have a little bit more bit more something to play
with that could make some really good films and go
visit some of these brilliant sights to educate the world.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Do you monetize your YouTube channel?

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
No, I don't really want to do that. To be
honest with you, I don't like I don't know, I
don't want to. I hate adverts. I hate the advertising industry.
I just think it's just lie after lie, and I
don't really want to bombard people with that kind of thing,
so I've avoided doing that. Maybe I should look into it,
but for now I'm okay. You know, I'm managing to

(01:06:30):
get by and make these films, and my work's getting
better and better, so I'm happy with it. But hopefully
it will never come to that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
It is as it's a nice little, steady, little check man,
I say, I count on it, and really, yep, And
I don't think people mind. I think people canna appreciate
the work you're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Really.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Yeah, sometimes we're a little too you know, ethical or
you know, we look in that ethical, a little too
start yeah, starving, you know, we're now. I was going
to say something else I forgot.

Speaker 5 (01:07:10):
Yeah, yeah, Well it's one more thing I could mention
as well, because I noticed that on your website you're
very much into resistance to the new World Order.

Speaker 4 (01:07:22):
Yes, and I love that about you, you know, because
we need a hell of a lot more than that.
And I'd just like to mention another project on my website.
It's called back to Nature because another thing that I've
noticed while while traveling around the world is how there
is this massive movement, I think it's a revolution actually,

(01:07:43):
of people leaving the system and going and living like
off grid lives or eco friendly lives, and there's there's
a huge movement of people educating themselves how to grow
their own food, and alternative currencies propping up where people
are doing more sort of like trade and barter things
and creating websites where trade and barter can be on
a much greater scale. So I just wanted to mention

(01:08:05):
that because I'm sure there's a lot of people listening
who don't realize that it's a silent revolution and it's
a revolution that I actually think that whoever the dark
Side is owned by, I think their fear this because
you know, they need revolutions where we're all waving a
flag and they have a leader who they can attack
and they can you know, infiltrate, whereas this is a
revolution where it's just on a real like ground level,

(01:08:28):
and there's there's some amazing stuff happening in that. So
there's another project that people can see on my website.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
Yeah, that's encouraging because I think that people, everybody just
by instinct can see that the system we live under
is just so intolerable and so distasteful that everyone is
reaching out and in searching for alternatives at this time.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
Yeah, it's a.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
Nic have they. I can't thank you enough Modern explores
that CEO do UK keep in touch with us here.
I reallyppreciate you sending me that email.

Speaker 4 (01:09:02):
Thank you, thank you for having me on. Really it's great.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
No, I've really enjoyed this. I'm jealous. I'm jealousy.

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
I'll give you another thing about what we do is
that anyone's welcome. You know, we have had plenty of
people come on these trips and help me film. So honestly, honestly,
if you ever get a week three and you want
to come and visit me, come and do it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
Do you have any expeditions in the United States that you.

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
Do I haven't. I've got some plan though, because you've
got some stone circles and some structures. As I said,
there's a stone circle called Burnt Hill in Massachusetts. I
want to visit. And there's some structures that are like
Dolman and things like that that were in New Hampshire.
And also some of your petroclifts are amazing. So at

(01:09:44):
the moment, I need to get some money and then
I can make plans. So I haven't got any plans
at all this current time, but I will come over.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
Definitely, keep in touch with us, and if you have
a new big expedition that we put up another crowdfunding thing,
we'll put you right on you and trying to help
you get some support.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
Excellent.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
Thank you very much, Thank you so much. Brother.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
All right, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
Okay, they had Mick Cobb Day, a different kind of
show than we normally do. Modern Explorers dot co dot UK.
Fascinating guy. I really enjoyed his YouTube channel to Modern Explorers.
Really good stuff on there, very well done. A lot
of times, you know, you got people their heart's in
the right place, you know. And but there's wind blowing
in the background, you know, and we're not very good narration,

(01:10:28):
you know. But he tells a good story, presents it
very well, and I really enjoyed it. You know me,
I'm not really into this kind of stuff, so I
found this a very very fascinating and a nice little
change of pace. I'm gonna hook them up with Richard
Holand and get him on there because the producers always
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dot com. Let me ask you a question, Sean, do
you guys have chocolate up there in Canada?

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Chalco Lets?

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
Yeah? Do you have that there?

Speaker 4 (01:13:39):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
You know? I think every once in a while we
get some sleds that come through here and they have
this sweet brown candy that we eat. But Chalcco lot before,
I truth be told, we've got some better chocolate up
here than you do down there in the stage, I believe.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
Now, except if it's Phoebe Sad's chocolate. Yes, Coco dot com.
And Shawn Duff of straw Man the Band's straw Man
up in Canada over there, tell us about yourself. You've
been on the show once before. People can go back
to the archives and look it up and it was
called Seawan Duff straw Man Music dot com. But tell
us about yourself, Sean, who is showing Duff? And people

(01:14:17):
should know the Shawn's the guy that helps me out
with the member section. He uploads those shows for us,
He gets them up there. And it's kind of funny too,
you know, should because I mentioned you so much and
we do that little commercial. We'll we mention you that
people think, like if I have a case in Canada,
I'm I'm gonna assign it to Sean. Like people are

(01:14:38):
like living in the same house.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
They were all like, you know, like the Beatles wanted
to pay. I mean, you know, shoot me some numbers.
I'd be happy because because I am you know, Canada, right,
like I am your Canadian contact for all of the
opperman private investigative services.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
Absolutely, I just want to get in trouble with the
government of Canada. Now, what about what part of Canada
you win? Because a lot of times it's either Montio,
it's the other end. It's like it's a big distance
between the city's over there.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
Yeah, I'm in Toronto. We're two hours from Saint Buffalo.
I'm in the United State border, right, Yeah, so we
I mean we get weather here that's it's warmer than
say in Wisconsin or either you'll get more snow in
Chicago than you'll get in Toronto most times. And it

(01:15:27):
gets it doesn't get Las Vegas hot here in the summertime,
but it gets very hot here in the summertime. So
we're just sort of running into the end of winter here,
which is nicest than kind of cool this week. But
I think Toronto's what the fifth largest city in North America,
sixth largest something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
That's interesting because I'm thinking about getting the hell out
of this country. How long is your summer though, because
the summer here in Vegas is really long. It's pretty
much starts now. It's really nice out right now. It's
beautiful up and it'll go to like the October. You
can go swimming in October here.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
Yeah, I know it's not that long, but from from
May till about September it's really nice early in the
in the end, so May September very temperate. June is nice.
July and August get hot though. They get up to
in America speak, ninety five to one hundred sometimes and
a lot of humidity gets really hot.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
Yeah that's like New York.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, you know it gets like I said,
we're not in the Great White North. We're not in
say Winnipeg, or there's a Canada's massive. I mean, it
dwarfs America. Sorry, I'm just going to jump in here
and say ed and I have a bit of a

(01:16:42):
Canada US banter online. So if people are wondering why
I'm America bashing. I'm not. I'm just having so fun
with that right now.

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
Yeah, we do full a out like that. I said,
now telling about your stuff. You're married and stuff, right.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
Not married, not married, but spoken for ok. Yeah, no,
just I work. I Yeah, I've got my girl, no kids.
I have family. I got a niece, a fantastic niece
and nephew. I'm the drummer and backup singer and the
band straw Man, And I'm also the webmaster for the

(01:17:19):
Opperman Report and at sometimes part time psychologist psychiatrist. And
that's pretty much me. I try to, you know, keep
it close to the vat. But you know, I mean,
I love my life here in Toronto, although I'm looking
to get away somewhere because the winters do get a
little bit long. Yeah. Like I said, I'm pretty straightforward guy.

(01:17:42):
There's nearly not much to tell, at least not what
I want to tell on the radio.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
You know what that reminds me too. You also did
that thing. I think it was on either April Fool's
Day or on my birthday. You did that little video.
We we took all the lot of clus you got
to send me that as an MP four and I'll
put it up on the After and Report YouTube channel.
I'll get more views because that thing is really good.
I really enjoyed that when I got.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
They well, we're coming up to April first again, so
you never know what the store. Yeah, I understand. I
understand that President Trump might have an offer for you.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
All right, so now what's the deal you got going on?
You're going to be in the Guinness Book of World.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
Records, I hope. So yeah, no, thanks for having me
on to discuss this. Ed. So, it turns out, about
a month or two ago, a friend of mine to
a friend of mine, he decided that he wanted to
try and put on excuse me, I got finding a
bit of a cold here. He wanted to put on
the longest open mic at this local bar that he's

(01:18:43):
a guitar player and a singer songwriter. And then he
decided he was going to take it a step further
and see what was involved in doing the longest concert.
And it turns out actually the existing record was set
by a bar in a casino in Vegas. As a
matter of fact, I think it was Mandalaid Bay. Oh really, yeah, yeah,
there's an Irish pub in there. I mean, I'll tell

(01:19:04):
you the logistics of putting together what they're putting together
versus in a casino in Vegas it's opened twenty four
to seven that just has tens of thousands people of
people walking past it every day is different. But anyway,
so he decided he wanted to put together as long
as concert and it started to gain steam. And now
at seven pm, which is what an about an hour

(01:19:26):
and a half from now local time, the record's attempt
kicks off. So it's and the rules. The rules are
very stringent and they're they're pretty crazy too. The existing
record I think is something like three hundred and seventy
four hours NonStop, so that's twenty four to seven through

(01:19:47):
the middle of the night most I mean, for our attempt,
every band is going to play in at least an hour,
so four hundred hours. I think it works at the
seventeen days straight that we have to put on. Now
straw Man's only playing one hour, but I think the
organizers have about three hundred and seventy acts or some

(01:20:09):
acts that are going to play more than one time. But
it's really getting a lot of steam up here. It's
in the newspapers, it's on the radio. I understand that
tonight there's going to be a national news story about
it up here. So in credit to it's Epidemic Music
Group and the website is Epidemic Musicgroup dot Ca. You

(01:20:29):
can go there. They're going to be live streaming the
whole thing. I think it's you have to do with
the fact that it's a social media world that we
live in, so you want to have that video out there.
But as well, Guinness mandates that everything be recorded right,
So for anybody who's interested, they can go to Epidemic
Musicgroup dot ca and under Events you'll see Guinness Book

(01:20:52):
a World Records Attempt and they'll have a live feed there,
so you can go there, and it's all taking place
at a it's a small pub, it's not a big place.
It's called the Earl of Witchurch. It's in a town
called Stouville, Ontario, which is just maybe under an hour
north of Toronto. And they just they've really, like just

(01:21:14):
I haven't really been in communication with them because they're
working eighteen hours a day, but following them online on
Facebook and on Twitter, they've been busting their butts to
make this happen. They've got deals with hotels for people
that need to stay over, They've got shuttle buses running
from different locations, they've got sponsors, they've got they've built

(01:21:34):
a brand new stage is in the bar because it's
the logistics are too much to have the band switching
from one stage to the same stage. Guinness only allows
for five minutes in between bands, so there's going to
be two stages, one at either end of the pub,
and when one band has finished, the other band will
be on the stage ready to go. And it's really exciting.

(01:21:58):
I mean, if this all worked out and we set
the record that I think I'll be the only person
that I know in my whole life whose name will
be in the Guinness Book of World Record. So from
a personal standpoint, that's pretty exciting. But I'm also very
excited for the people who put this together. They've just
obviously worked so hard just to get the media attention
and to get all the sponsors on board. So I

(01:22:20):
hope people will go to Facebook search Epidemic Music Group,
like their page support the efforts because a lot of
people are putting in a lot of time for this,
and you know, they're every act even at five o'clock
on a Monday morning, has to have ten people watching,
and they can't be sleeping. You can't have ten people,

(01:22:42):
can't get the sleeping banks. They all have to be awake.
So you have to have ten people to see every hour,
every hour of the four hundred hours. There can't be
thirty more than There has to be less than thirty
seconds between each song. Each song has to be more
than two minutes. Yeah. Like I said, the logistics of
this thing are pretty incredible. But by the way, you

(01:23:06):
know all the evidence right now of how the people
are putting this together, I think they're going to do
it if all of the music acts do their part.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
Okay, wait, I got a couple questions for you. One is,
then you're trying to tell me that the reigning champion
right now was Las Vegas and you'll be taking away
our championship from us.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
Oh, and it's going to be so pleasurable.

Speaker 3 (01:23:25):
I can't believe it. Man, I'm sabotaging myself.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Okay, I don't even know what it was said. That's
the one thing I never did check was how old
the record is. But I mean, that's a pretty good record.
Three hundred seventy two hours straight. That's a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
Now, No, if they can only be thirty seconds between bands,
do they share the same instruments, So there's no way
you can go in there and plug in your own stuff, right.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
No, No, it's five minutes between bands. Okay, thirty seconds
between songs. But they are providing what we call the
back line, so they're providing the drums, the answer everything. Basically,
all you're going to do is I'm going to jump
up there with my drumsticks, My guys are going to
jump up there with the guitars, plug them in, and
we're going to go. And we got to play against

(01:24:11):
the fifteen sixteen songs. And oh and you can't have
the same song played within a four hour period. So
if I want to play it, if my band wants
to play the Johnny Cash song, the organizers have to
make sure that four hours before us or four hours
before that song and four hours after that song, that

(01:24:32):
nobody else is playing the same Johnny Cash song. So
it's a lot of work. It's a lot of work,
and I'm really happy to be part of it because
I know the people that are involved. There are some
of the people that involved and they're just good people
and to see it alterning out at least so far,
I'm totally excited for it. So Epidemic Musicgroup dot ca

(01:24:52):
and check them out on Facebook and as I said,
just show them a little bit of love. Like their page.
We're playing strow In and you can see a Starman
Music dot com as our website. We're playing Friday, March
thirty first, which is two weeks in, and we're playing
the nine pm local slot, which at that point, if

(01:25:14):
you know, fingers crossed everybody makes it to that point,
will be about hour three thirty three thirty five something
like that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
Wait wait, wait, pot on Friday, March thirty first, and
what time?

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
At nine pm Eastern?

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
Nine pm?

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
Yeah, so people can do the math depending on the
time zone they're in because it will be streamed at
the website.

Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
Okay, and what's the location again?

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
It's in Stouville, Ontario. I don't have an exact address
for you, but Stouville is pretty much due north of
Toronto about forty five fifty minutes. And this is what
I'm saying. The Mandalay Bay Record is in Vegas twenty
four to seven. That's how the city exists, especially at
a casino, whereas you're talking about a little bird of

(01:26:01):
maybe thirty thousand people in Stowville, So Stowville is going
to be inundated with a whole bunch of people that
have probably never even been there before. Oh and the
one thing I didn't mention is that they've lined up seven,
sixteen or seventeen different charities, one for each night of
the record attempts, So anybody that's going to come and

(01:26:24):
see the show or wants to donate online, each night
has a charity affiliated with it. So the hospitals will benefit,
animal shelters will benefit the night that we're playing. The
charity is the Gord Downy Brain Cancer Foundation. If there's
any Canadians listening, you'll know that Gordon Downey is the
lead singer for the tragically Hip, which is a local

(01:26:47):
Ontario band. Toronto's in the province Ontario in Canada, and
if you grew up you're my age or basically, Tragically
Hip is probably one of the three or four biggest
bands of all time in Canada. And he came with
a very severe brain tumor diagnosis not too long ago.
So it's it's a it's a big deal here in Canada.

(01:27:08):
If you're if you're a Canadian, you're a hip fan,
and so we're really happy to be I mean, we'd
be happy to play for any of the charities, but
just given that the Tragically Hip was part of the
soundtrack of some of the best times of my life,
I'm really happy to be contributing to that night. So
if people, you know, if people have already got their
memberships at the Opperaman Report member section and they've donated

(01:27:31):
a little dough to ad and they've bought their food
and all that, as if they've got a couple bucks
they want to shoot at one of the charities. I
know the people that were are organizing this will be
really happy.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
Okay, excellent man. That's a Friday, March thirty, first, nine
pm Eastern time. And uh, we don't know the exact location,
but check out what have the location for you in
the the YouTube comments and the you know, a little
description box there and speak and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
Okay, Yeah, anybody that's in the Toronto area or there
might be there might be some listeners that are outside
of Toronto. It's even closer to where I live than
to where I live. Please come out. Let me know
that you're an oper Room Opperman report listener. I'd love
to meet you.

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
Okay, great, okay, great, Now let me ask a question. Now,
you've been sending me a lot of stuff over I'm
getting bombarded over here. I got John Draper, Captain Crunch,
messaging me here. Let me just tell him. I'll go
to get back to one a little one may get
one second. Okay, there you go. This guy's very hard

(01:28:48):
to get a hold of. He lives here locally now,
John drew Aper, Captain Crunch, you might remember back you
live with the Yippie Still Live with the Ypie head
quarters over to a j webman uh back in the
seventies and eighties. And he's the guy who found out
that if you took the little whistle out of the
box of Captain Crunch, you could blow it into the
phone and get free long distance phone calls. And so yeah, yeah,

(01:29:14):
I know right, I mean, I think he's gonna get
a book of our world records. Okay. So anyway, and
he lives here in Vegas too. He's a nice guy.
I like him. He calls me up. He asked me
to help him move and stuff I kind of heard,
you know, I can't. I'm not doing much. Uh what
do you call a moving these days? All right, now,
you've been sending me some stuff though the research you've

(01:29:36):
been doing.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
Yeah, no, sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
No, go ahead, because I'm scrolling up, not trying to
find it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
Yeah no, I mean like, yeah, listeners of the Opera
Reporter are obviously interested in topics that aren't mainstream. And yeah,
I listened to you, but I listened to a bunch
of other interviews and do my own research and came
across this interview. I don't even want to say her name,

(01:30:04):
but I came across this interview with us with this
young lady who had a really interesting story about when
she was younger. She was a bit of a rebel
and was causing her parents some grief in her early teens,
so they decided that they would send her off to
one of these youth camps. And I think they sent
her to one in Jamaica or Mexico. I think she

(01:30:25):
might have been it to more than one. And her
story was crazy about you liked almost the brainwashing they
would put her through, the physical torture, some of the
sexual abuse that was going on with the kids that
were sent there. This is all under the guise to

(01:30:45):
parents of you know, writing the children, sending them on
the right path so they don't become drug addicts, and
basically scamrong monitoring the parents into putting them into these
youth camps, which then turned out to be almost like
like slave prison, third world camps. It's just crazy, and

(01:31:06):
there's there's photo documentation of it online. They made people
lay flat on concrete floors, face down for hours and
days at a time. It was it was actually pretty
compelling story. And then and then I did a little
bit more research on this this woman, and uh, yeah,
it turns out she's a Nazi.

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
So that's interesting. How did that come about? She became
a Nazi because of it? So she was raised the Nazi.
What's going with that?

Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
No, you know, I just I googled her name and
I found a link to a website that she's affiliated with.
Again I'm not going to give the name, and I saw, okay,
I'm going to listen to she she was compelling on
this one interview, and so I listened to was an

(01:31:55):
audio video I don't can't remember on the web page,
and there was I had no idea. There was nothing
in the initial interview that I listened to that would
lead me to believe that she was a white nationalist Nazi.
But I watched a short video and she ended it
with the zighile and she was just rampant with the

(01:32:17):
with the hate, and it was really shocking because, like
I said, I had no idea that she would be
like this. And it's too bad too, because there's probably
some listeners that have watched she's involved in the Pizza Gate.
She did a Pizzagate video and it was one of
the There was stuff in this pizza Gate video that
she was involved in that I'd never pictures, whatever, details

(01:32:39):
that I'd never heard about Pizzagate before. So I thought,
this young lady is very intriguing. And then, you know,
because for people listening I suggested to after listening to
the first interview, I suggested this might be a good
guest because Ed's done so much work with you know,
the Pedogate and the Pizza Gate. And I watched her

(01:33:01):
Pizzagate video and I thought it was pretty well done.
And then when I went to this other website and yeah,
I'll send you the link, and like I said, I
don't want to do any promotion for this whatsoever. For her,
what's all about sending you a link? And it's it's crazy,
It's just crazy from this interesting information I think everybody

(01:33:21):
should know about to just this hate field screen that
she was spewing. So, you know, the internet is a
total mindfield. You have to be careful. I'm glad that
I'm glad that she didn't get her on and then
help her to spew her hate on the Operaman Report,
that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
Well, you want to know what, I really don't mind
dealing with the Nazi or white supremacy as long as
that they're open about it, you know what I mean
is if they will to say, hey, this is what
we are. But I just don't like it when they're
like kind of like hinting around, you know what I mean.
And I don't want to promote their their Nazi hatred either,
but it is interesting to hear what they how they

(01:33:56):
got that way, and how they feel that way. As
a matter of fact, I just had a guy booked
who was grew up in a white Nazi militia, white
supremacist group called what was it called the Phineas Group.
The Phineas Priests who was called and a matter of fact,
he went to prison for bank robbery and he was
supposed to come on on a Saturday afternoon live. I

(01:34:18):
booked him through a trying day of those guys over there,
and then he didn't show up. You know, he put
his number on voicemail, he didn't pick up the phone,
and so I had to just sit there and do
two hours by myself. And when I contacted Trient day
but they said, whatever happened to this guy? They never
got back to me. So I don't know, maybe you know,
he thinks I'm Jewish or something. I don't know, if
he's still a white supremacist, what's going on with that?

(01:34:40):
But I would I would consider talking to this lady
as long as it wasn't to promote, you know, Nazism,
just so she hasn't. Her story about being at this
camp is interesting, you.

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
Know, no, and her work, like I said, the Pizza
game video, I think, I say, you know, Lincoln, the
chat here, if you take a look at that, you
know it's but you know what now I remember there
is some hints to to her Nazee leanings in the video,
which I didn't really appreciate. Obviously, it's too bad because

(01:35:10):
it taints the information for for say, a biased viewer.
You you're somebody that wants to come in a little
bit more about pizza Gate. And then there's you know,
some some hints in there that she's got this this
these Nazee leanings. But I'll send you I'll send you
the link to her. She does a she does her
own podcast as well, because I would love to hear you,

(01:35:32):
you know, dig into a little bit and find out
what it was that you know, turned her into, uh,
you know, an area in first and and you can
have a listen to one or two of her podcasts.
But yeah, no, I mean the pizza Gate thing is
always not fascinating me obviously, but it it seemed to

(01:35:53):
be such a big part of the way the election
turned for Trump, and it gets into this, you know,
under the skin layer of the pedophilia that I don't
know seems to be out there. I know you've done
a lot of work on it and a lot of interviews,
and it seems there's a lot of hints whispers that

(01:36:17):
go around, but there's never anything concrete or you never
really see anything happen on a higher elite level. There's
lots of I've noticed there's a lot of pedophiles getting arrested.
I've seen pedophiles being arrested in the news, whether it's
in Canada or in Norway or in the UK, which
is a great thing. But you never really see any

(01:36:38):
of these allegations that point to some people in power,
whether it's politically or economically. You never really see anything
come out of that except for Epstein. Epstein's that's the
only one.

Speaker 3 (01:36:49):
Yeah, And you just sent me a link to recently
from who's that guy Dan Abram's website, and I see
I didn't see this before I get into that though.
You know, on Reddit, the Pizzagate stuff started on the
pro Trump website of groups. You know, it was pro
trumpers who discovered all that Pizzagate stuff and started talking

(01:37:10):
about it, and so a lot of you know, he
has a lot of Nazi followers too. He has a
lot of white supremacists follow him and endorse him. And
it's interesting, so many of these pizza Gate people I
talked to, like they think, oh, mister Trump, once he
hears about this, he's going to investigate all this and
he's gonna put everybody in prison. He's going to round
them all up. He's going to you know, but it's

(01:37:31):
I don't even know how they come to that conclusion,
because there's nothing to indicate that that he's making any
effort to investigate this or look into any of this
at all.

Speaker 1 (01:37:45):
You know, you pick your man in a fight, and
you hope that he's going to do everything. There's also
he was also going to bust Hillary Clinton for all
of her scandals, and that's completely disappeared. He actually mentioned that,
at least I'm not sure where where the Trump supporters
got this idea that he was going to crack down
on the Pizzagate emails. He did. There was online there

(01:38:09):
was something about him making having a press conference about
human trafficking, but there's been no meat to that really either.

Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
Yeah. You know, like I said, the Reddick group was
a Trump group originally, you know, and that's how they
start against But you know, he just fired that guy.
First of all, he hired Alex Acosta, who was the
prosecutor in the Epstein case, he gave him a job
in his cabinet, and then he just fired that guy,

(01:38:40):
pret the New York prosecutor who was investigating and prosecuting
Wiener in Wienergate. So whatever, you know, whatever is going
on here, whether he's pro or Connor or what, he
is active in it, and he's not afraid to bring
these names back up, especially when you consider his connections

(01:39:01):
to Epstein and his connections. You just sent me a
link too about this new Dan Abram's website that says
that he's on this witness list. Now, is that the
lawsuit with the Gashlaine Maxwell, the defamation lawsuit between her
and you know what she's think that is?

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
Yeah, I'm trying to bring that back up now, Yeah,
because that was a recent story too. I'm just trying
to find that again here it is.

Speaker 3 (01:39:29):
Yeah, you're actually the only one that sent that to me.

Speaker 1 (01:39:32):
Really thought I thought you were going to tell me
this was old news.

Speaker 3 (01:39:36):
Well, yeah, you know it might be. But the I
can't keep up on everything, you know, you know, it's
especially with Epstein, is so much. But Pierce Redmond's doing
a good job on I keeping and then he updates
me as much as we can.

Speaker 1 (01:39:51):
Yeah, Pierce is a very very common sets approach to it.
He doesn't get caught in the hole inflammatory side of it.
The way he calms everybody down. And you know, it
doesn't it doesn't always have to be that there's a
worldwide conspiracy about things. It could just be that Epstein's
just a dirt bag that's running his own little thing,

(01:40:13):
which I think is good for people to settle themselves
down a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:40:20):
This lawsuit could be one of the ones, uh, these
defamation lawsuits that are going back and forth with the
what's your name Virginia Roberts attorneys that are running around
suing people for defamation. Oh yeah, and it involves allegations
of most of the prosecution and defamation filed by Florida.
Toorney Bradley, I was, yeah, okay, and that's interesting, but

(01:40:43):
it doesn't say who he's suing because he was suing H.
Dershowitz and I know that that was dropped.

Speaker 1 (01:40:54):
Yeah, no, I recall that too. Yeah. I'm just I'm
just looking here civil case, civil trial, and Trump is
on the witness list, and I'm just trying to see
the details here. It is very strange that he would
hire a Costa as the Department of Labor secretary, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:41:15):
Yeah, and then we found out too that a Costa
has connections to can cheat. Ah starn Off, who I
think I might have told you off the year what
was going on with that kind of stuffy.

Speaker 1 (01:41:30):
No, just what do you think for me? Anyways? I'm
not you know, I don't. I'm not into this as
much as some people are. It's really hard to sort
of keep track of all the players and what's going on.
And like I said, when when when this guy Acosta,
you know, closes down the Epstein suit or the Epstein

(01:41:51):
case and makes this settlement which was, you know, obviously
very favorable to Epstein, and then Trump, his buddy hires
him to be the Department of Labor secretary and it
doesn't look good. You don't really have to stretch too
far to say that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:08):
Yeah, right, Although some people were trying to say that
that he brought a Costa into the cabinet because he
wanted to keep him closed and Acosta would know all
the names. But you know Acosta originally here it goes
like this, He's the one that he was a federal
prosecutor and he was telling when he was negotiating with
Epstein's lawyers, he was telling him, listen, either you take
the state deal or you're going to get ten years

(01:42:30):
if we prosecute you in federal court, and he wanted
him to get two years in the state deal, not
eighteen months like he got. And then after an Acosta
was one of these guys who was pressured and investigated
by Epstein's team of attorneys. Roy Black and all these
characters were putting pressure on the Bushes to harass them Acosta.

(01:42:51):
They were investigating Acosta's personal life. And after this the
settlement was over, Acosta did a three page letter outlining
all of the harassment he experienced, how they investigated him,
how they put pressure on him. They went to his
sup periods in the Justice Department to try and put
pressure on him. But what we found out was that

(01:43:13):
the person who released that letter and published that letter
was Kanchetah Saranoff. Now Conchititah Sarnoff is an author who
wrote a book called Trafficking, which is pretty much a
whitewash of Donald Trump's involvement in Pizzagate, and her publisher
is a massad agent. Okay, and Kancheitah Sernoff, it was

(01:43:34):
a bit on My show, also was friends with Epstein
and Kishlaine Maxwell. Before she wrote the book, she said
she knew them a long time ago, and she was
friends with them, and she was so shocked to find
out all this was going on. But then later on,
according to Pierce Redman's work, he found out that her
attorneys for her foundation she runs a foundation for helping

(01:43:56):
kids against human trafficking and stuff like that, and her
attorneys are the ken Star Law firm, the same law
firm that represents Epstein. So you know, you know, it's
not all cut and dry like people just look at
this stuff and say, oh, Trump's a good guy and
he's gonna bite these bad guys. The good guys and

(01:44:18):
the bad guys are all mixed in together in this
and they all know each other and they're all friends,
and they're on each side of lawsuits suing each other
all over the place. So listen, let's it's my big
good time to take a little commercial breaking. We are
here with Sean Duff of Strawman Music dot Com. He's
got this Guinness Book of World Records attempt coming up

(01:44:41):
by Epidemic Music Group. It's on Friday, March thirty first,
nine pm Eastern time, and we don't have the exact address.
But then again, it's like a little north of Toronto's
what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:44:52):
Yeah, yeah, if you're in Toronto, straight at the Down
Valley Parkway, which is the North Steth Highway that runs here.
I'm from Toronto up to north of the city. But
I'll get you the details. It's all on the Facebook list.
It's all on the Academic Music group website.

Speaker 3 (01:45:11):
Okay, So we got a five minute commercial break here
and John, we won't be able to talk to each
other during the break, but we can text back and
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Crowley's Shadow over Humanity. Now, he just sent me a
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(01:46:40):
And there's a chapter on just about everybody in this
book that you can imagine, the Beatles and Jack Parson's
Everybody's in here. It's incredible. Definitely recommend this book. There's

(01:47:01):
a bunch of pictures in here too, of all these
people in a different chapters, and and uh information uh
antson LeVay and people I've never heard of too. It's
whole bunch of here.

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(01:47:37):
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(01:48:00):
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(01:48:40):
is I ship. I'll ship two to one person, ship
two books to want address, and then I'll mistake and
I won't send one guy his book. It's kind of
I'm not in a book shipping business. You know, it
wasn't a big anyway. Seawan you there, okay, I think Seanman.

Speaker 1 (01:49:01):
Yeah, I'm here, thank you. I'm here. I just put
you on mute while I fed the Polar Bears.

Speaker 3 (01:49:07):
What do you Okay? Okay, I'm on this site here
and I'm finding the address for this thing. It's Friday,
March seventeenth, No Friday March thirty first, nine pm Eastern time,
at the Earl of Witch Church at Stuffville, Ontario. Still

(01:49:29):
will yeah, Stoveville, Ontario. But there's no exact address there, just.

Speaker 1 (01:49:32):
Says well, I was just there during the break. I
was thinking. Maybe what I'll do is I'll add a
page to the Operaman Report website.

Speaker 6 (01:49:40):
Okay, and I'll just add to the sidebar so everybody
can click on there, because there's a live feed at
the Epidemic Music Group website as well as on YouTube.
Now I understand, and I'll put all the details for.

Speaker 1 (01:49:53):
Where it is. And like I said, they've got hotel deals,
shuttle buses if anybody's in the area they want to
support that. Great, So I'll do that. I'll do that
this weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:50:04):
Okay. Great. Now, in the segment that's going to play
right before this, Okay, you haven't heard it yet, but
I had a question for you. It's kind of off
the usual topic show that we normally do. I found
this guy, Mick Hobday, right, and actually he found me.
And what he does is he's one of these guys
that travels all over and he's been to eighty three

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different countries and he researches and investigates. You know, those
stone circles like a stonehenge, but they've got them all
over the world in eighty three different countries. They got
small ones, big ones, you know, all these different kinds
of monolithic stones and stuff like that. Now that's a
very atypical show for the Opperaman Report. We never get

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into that kind of stuff. But something about this guy
fascinated me, and I says, okay, let's put him on
the show. Let's do an interview with him. And I really, really,
I'm jealous. This guy's able to go around to all
these different countries and visit these formations. And they got
these other things too, where these they call my dome
domos or something like that, where there's like it's like
a little table of rocks is to be like a
two or three ton rocks slab on top and then

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walls or footstools like of like a table, you know,
and these things are everywhere he says. He says in Africa,
they got like a million of them. Have you heard
that kind of stuff?

Speaker 1 (01:51:21):
Well, I mean, yeah, the I can't speak to too detailed,
but I do know that the Stonehenge is what everybody knows.
But there's it seems to be like there's these similar
formations that have been put all around the world. I
don't know. I don't know this guy in particular, though,
I just googled him. Is he the is he the

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Cornflake Traveler?

Speaker 3 (01:51:44):
Yes, Nicole, Yeah, that's his comedy site. Yeah, that's his
joking around site. He has some more serious sights.

Speaker 1 (01:51:51):
Well, it's the first one I thought. I mean, I
love it that he's been to I mean, you look
at his blog here and uh country seventy six, So
I mean, yeah, he's absolutely seeing the world. That's fantastic.
But yeah, I mean in the course of the time
that I've been looking into things that are at mainstream,
I've come across this type of stuff. I really, like
I said, I really can't speak to it, but they

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does beg the question why in countries that we're told
were completely disassociated, there was no communication, there's no travelers
moving around the world that they would have these similar formations.

Speaker 3 (01:52:26):
Right, because he checks out the pyramids too. He's been
to the pyramids and the aztects and stuff like that.
I don't think he's been to Egypt, but he's checked
out these pyramids too and all this kind of stuff.
And he's been too to those pyramids that are supposed
to be in Serbia, you know, that are supposed to
be like buried on the ground. He participated in trying
to dig him up like an archaeological dig. Now my

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question for you, though, okay, is because he was talking
about how at certain of these locations he could put
his hand over the rock and feel energy coming off
the rock, right. And when I heard that, I said, well, yeah, okay,
you know I feel that, you know, because I was
telling them a story about how at Trump Tower in

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New York, they had one of these stores with all
those crystals in there and those geos and all this
kind of stuff like that, and when you'd walk in there,
you could feel the energy coming off these things. You
could feel it on your face. It was like you
were like swept over. And there's a store like that
here too, in Las Vegas, and when you go in there,
I can feel it all over me. But I've been
talking to people who have been in these stores and

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they don't feel it. So I'm asking you, have you
ever been around that kind of stuff and felt the
energy coming off of it?

Speaker 1 (01:53:40):
Yeah? Well, yeah, absolutely. I mean, I you know, maybe
it's just maybe a personal psychosis I have, but I've
in the last fifteen years maybe or so, I've become
aware of it. I think everybody honestly feels this way.
When you walk into a situation and you can see

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that something's not right, maybe people have been arguing, or conversely,
people are very happy. You pick up a vibe from that,
or at least I do. I am very much cognizant
of that, and I will say that I picked that
up if I go into a situation that's extreme, to
the extreme of stressful or elated. But I know with

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you know, during doing research on chemtrails, they use a
lot of these double they call them, double terminated crystals
to build chemtrail busters, they call them. And I've been
threatening to give it a shot, but never got around
to it. So I did go to a few of
these shots, and yeah, there's something to it, and you

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have to ask yourself why are these stone circles in
all of these different countries around the world that you
were told there's nobody that came from point A to
a point B to bring those stone circles there, or
or again the pyramid structures that are in Egypt, but
they're also in South America, I understand, And now you

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tell me in Serbia. So yeah, no, really, my personal
opinion is that once you start to open yourself up
to different things, you're going to be able to experience
different things. I think if you live in, for lack
of a better word, the mainstream, you're not going to

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you're not going to understand these things. You're not going
to feel them because you're completely blocked off from them.
You're watching TV, you're listening to the radio, or you're
stuck your head in the computer and you're not getting
out of that box that we're sort of trapped into
in twenty seventeen now and more so than ever, like

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it's the hilarious Trump hate that goes on and yet
he was elected the president. Is Yeah, I find it
hard to understand personally. I'm not a Trump fan, don't
get me wrong, but you know, apparently we're told that
a majority of people voted for the guy, and I
still think he's at least he's more candid than Hillary,

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who would just be probably more evil and way more
secretive about it. That's my take. I don't know if
you feel the same way. I know you're not a
Hillary fan. I wanted Bernie too, But let me ask
you this, if you could, if you could take it back,
would you go with the Democrats, with Hillary Clinton over Trump?
Or would you go with the demon that you have? Now?

Speaker 3 (01:56:36):
Well, you know, I think Hillary is worse. I think
Hillary's worse, But I think this situation we have right
now is just so chaotic and so bizarre that I
don't know if you caught this press conference today with
the Angela Merkel and missed it, Oh, it's a gem

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because she's sitting there ringing while Trump is just rambling on.
And then right at the end of his and they're
asking him about, you know what, the tweet with the
wires happing and stuff, and right at the end, he says, well,
by the way, and it wasn't me who said it,
he says, he says, like, I'm not the one who
tweeted it. We were talking about something that was reported

(01:57:21):
on Fox News by Judge Andrew Depolitano, and he didn't
say his name, but he's a great legal mind and
exist and he's that. So it's just totally thrown into
the mix. No one said this before, and so right
he set her off the cuff during his press conference.
So Fox News actually went and did a statement saying, listen,
we don't endorse what Judge j Palal says, we can't

(01:57:42):
confirm it. And then they said something like an end
of story or you know, you gotta check it out.
And Merkle's just standing there with her in shock. And
now Trump too, he's threatening one of those guys, the Koreans,
the North Koreans. So listen, Yeah, I'm no Trump fan

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for sure. And it's chaos right now on the Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:58:06):
Because he does seem he does seem like this whole
thing with alluding to Neapolitano making a statement on him,
he just seems crazier. I don't know, like he's sick
or something. What you know, own up to what you said,
But I mean, I find it fascinating because with Trump,

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like I said, you've got this guy who was just
out there. He is unabashedly out there and whether somebody
is tweeting on his behalf, he's not making any corrections
over it. And then he comes out in a press
conference with the German Chancellor, right so, the most powerful
nation in Europe, in a press conference denying that he
ever said this. And then at the same time you've

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got the Wiki leaks coming out with his Vault seven,
which basically says that the CIA can do all of
this spying through your electronics, and they can, and they
can basically spoof any infiltration to make it look like
it's somebody else, sort of with an illusion that the
Russian the quote unquote Russian hacking of the election could

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have been a CIA job that was just placed onto
the Russians for blame. And like I said, I find
it fascinating everybody's talking about the deep state? Is this
you know? What do you think? Do you think this
is a battle within the deep state between the globalist
left that wants a globalist left future for everybody versus

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the business nationalistic right side. Is there a battle of
the powers that actually are behind the scenes or is
this just window dressing to confuse us? Is it? Because
I'll tell you what up here, nobody likes Trump and
who can blame him? Right, but blame him. But Trump
is just he is a magnetic poll for people's discussed

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and hatred. They just see him as a missae pist,
a racist, and the way the mainstream press presents his policies,
a lot of them are those things, but a lot
of them maybe aren't as strong as as the press
makes them out to be. But do you think that
there's something going underneath, you know, with with people that

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actually pull some strings, or do you think that this
is just a media frenzy because you've got a cartoon
character as a president.

Speaker 3 (02:00:26):
That's a good question, That's a good question. I think
that the Hillary Obama UH wing of politics, you know,
the CIA wing, you know. I believe that uh that's
all CIA drug smuggling wing, you know, uh are still

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trying to destroy Trump and are trying to discredit him
as being a legitimate president or a capable president. But
on the other hand, I believe Trump is also a
con man who conded his way into this office. Yeah,
and it's up there with his kids and stuff like that,
you know, his kids at these meetings, you know, and
saying that the wackiest stuff either he's in on it,

(02:01:10):
you know, and the plan is to have him declared
it insane or throw in prisoner or something. I don't know,
or he's just withing it as he goes along, because
look at this situation. We had the Intelligence Committee just yesterday.
It was and so much is going on every day,
you just can't take your eyes off it. And then
they come out and was a bipartisan and they said, listen,
no one wire tapped Trump. See I hate into it.

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I didn't do it. Obama didn't do it. Never happened,
and Trump had no response. Waiting for that, they announced
the press conference I think was at twelve o'clock. It
would standing there. Everybody's in the in the press conference.
They're waiting for her to start for an hour. They
had no prepared statement. Then this guy Spicer comes out
and he reads eight minutes of different websites calling the Polatano,

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quoting Hannity or is not like like they're you know, sources.
So that tells me if they didn't have that response
ready to go, that tells me that the people around
Trump have no idea what's going on in his head,
because he's not letting him in on Hey, I'm gonna
get busted in a couple of days, and I'm gonna
look like a fool. We have to we have to

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have a response ready. So no one up there is
having that communication with Trump, and who's ever up there
helping him? And if you notice too, there's five hundred
appointments that he has to name to run the government,
and he's not naming them. He can't. And he's doing
all this that gonna fly, you know, like with nothing,

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I don't know what no, and there's five hundred positions.
And also to you know, he's cutting the State department
budget by like thirty percent. He's knocking it down to nothing.
And and this our state, the Department of Secretary of
State is not he should be here with meeting with Merkele,

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but he's off on some plane meeting with China. It's
just all bizarre chaos with weird tweets and accusations at
five o'clock in the morning that Obama's taping them, you know,
one thing after another. That can't all be sabotaged. Some
of that's either craziness or he's in on it with them.

Speaker 1 (02:03:23):
Well, that's what I was going to say, is that
it all can't be by accident. It all can't. I mean,
he still represents the Republican Party, so there must be
Republican Party people are saying, you know, you can't say this,
or at least you've said it. Now, let's work on
a spin. I mean, you've got what that Kelly and
Conway saying that the microwaves are spying on you. Okay,

(02:03:47):
so maybe she gets it wrong, maybe she meant to
say it different, but you should have something that they're
ready for that, you know. Even Sean Spicer, he's an
easy target because he still doesn't look comfortable when he
does a press conference. And uh, to me, it almost
seems like it can't be this discombobulated by accident. It

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have to be on purpose. It's like he is playing
the fool to to what end. I'm not sure. But
because I don't see that, they keep talking about they're
going to get him out of there somewhere or the other,
and I don't see anything just yet that's that's strong
enough to get him booted out. He's I mean, unless

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I don't know, unless they what was there? What was
her name there? And blanking on her name? The one
with the bereat that caught Bill Clinton Lewinsky. Yeah, unless
they find a new Lewinsky. But it just it almost
seems like you're watching some type of SNL skit, some
comedy skits show.

Speaker 3 (02:04:47):
I hear you, man, you know what we're at a time.
As a matter of fact, we went over the time.
Uh so we got to We've got to cut this short.
But thank you Sean Duff of strummanmusic dot com. Check
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Thank you so much, Sean Duff.

Speaker 1 (02:05:13):
All right, thanks, I'll talk to you again, sir.

Speaker 3 (02:05:15):
Good night, bro,