Mike Parziale: Hollywood Pedophilia & Sex Crimes

• Mike Parziale: Hollywood Pedophilia & Sex Crimes

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with us today. Mike Parsially, I've probably been pronouncing his

(02:05):
name wrong all the time he's been on the show.
I think it's the third or the fourth time he's
been back. The audience loves Mike Parsilli because we started
off first with Michael Jackson because he runs the Wade
Robinson website. Supporters of Wade Robson I think his names
but but Mike's website is MJ Victims dot com. And
I had him on a couple of times. Everybody Loves Him,

(02:27):
talked Pizzagate, We talked a little bit of everything. So, Mike,
are you.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
There, Yes, I am.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Thanks so much for coming back. You haven't caught on yet? Hi,
you haven't. You haven't caught on.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
All right?

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Thank you so much for coming on. Tell remind you
of the in who you are? Mike Parsilli.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Sure what uh that said? I run. I have a
website called mj Victims dot com and and what it
was religionally started for was to support the men and
now woman who I believe are victims of Michael as
predatory crimes. When I first started the site, the idea

(03:05):
was to really focus on that. And then eventually as
I got in and dated obviously with people commenting and
sending these things over the over the past four years,
I realized that there's more to this story than just
Michael Jackson. That there's a real major problem with elite
child's exploitation, and many of the stories that are on

(03:25):
the site and many of the things that I've done
a center around that that it's you know, I think
it's important to focus on some of the higher profile
cases that are out there because I think in many ways,
those higher profile cases are a key to unlocking really
what is going on here because everyone hears about the

(03:49):
you know, the teacher or the you know, the basketball
coach or whatever that's doing these sort of these doing
these crimes. But the higher profile cases, the politicians, the celebrities,
the people in you know, high levels of their career

(04:09):
that are doing this tends to be covered up. And
I think it's important to understand that that is really
the real A lot of this sort of begins and ends,
and that's what I do, and I you know, for me,
it's more of it's become someone of a passion over
the years. And I honestly never thought that would even

(04:31):
be talking to you, ed if you asked me five
six years ago, But now it's now become a Philly
big part of my life.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Now you mentioned as a woman who just came forward recently.
Have we discussed that on the year, because I know
you sent me a message about it.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
And there's yeah, there's news that surfaced. I want to
say about six eight months ago. There's a Jane Doe
that's come forward accusing Michael Jackson. This was a unique
case because she actually had x that were written she
actually was maybe smart enough at the time to make

(05:06):
copies of these cancel checks. And then she also has
letters that are very disturbing talking about how much he's
infatuated with her, and at the time she was twelve
years old. This case is now just for a quick update,
has been dismissed without prejudice, and that was the motion
was put in by the lawyers for Jane Doe. There's

(05:32):
many beliefs behind and some people believe that she was
just put in there to lure other victims or maybe
bolster the other cases, or even maybe force the settlement.
My take on it is is that I think what
the lawyers are doing is focusing on the Wade Robson
case and possibly the James Safe Chuck case. Those are

(05:53):
the stronger cases in the sense of you know what
they're going after and maybe can push those cases onto trial.
Then that will then pave the way for the Jame
Go case. And you know, the Wade Robinson's case is
still still up and running, and the James Safe James

(06:14):
Safe Check cases is also still up and running, and
you know it's going to be It's slated for next
year for the trial to begin, so you know, there's
a long time between them and now, and hopefully it
does actually go to trial, but with anything like this
that you never know until the date actually happens.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
But there were some recent new developments in the Wade
Robinson case. He made news since we talked last, didn't he.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
The I mean, what's what's happening is is that the
from what I can you know fathom, is that Vince
Finalite in company is preparing for trial and they are
What they're essentially saying is that because he was an
employer of Michael Jackson, the employer had you know, duty

(07:11):
of care to make sure that this child that they
had in the ind affair was not being harmed in
any way. And obviously, if Michael Jackson was sleeping with
this child and raping him, that that wasn't happening. And
Michael Jackson was smart enough in the sense of that
he said basically set up these corporations as what they

(07:37):
call Lonou Corporation. So what what happened is is that
in order to get to Michael Jackson, you would have
to go through one of these corporations to hire him.
And obviously, and a lot of people who are very
famous to do this. The idea is that you can't
personally sue him, you have to kind of go through
the corporation and do it. So right now, what the

(07:59):
lawyers are is that Wade Robson was an employer of
Michael Jackson, which he was, and that Michael Jackson brought
him all the way from Australia and essentially got him
citizenship in the country, and the sole purpose of that
was to groom and then eventually rape him while he

(08:20):
was off going employee. And but you know, as I'm
learning about this, because I you know, obviously I'm not
a lawyer, but as I'm learning about this, I'm learning
about all the different aspects of how the defense now
will come out with a demurer and try to argue
the opposite, and then the judge has leeway whether or
not he wants the case to go on. So it's

(08:41):
a long road. I just you know, my hope and
this is I think for a lot of people, the
hope is that this ends up in trial and not
in the settlement, because that's you know, obviously it's Wade's decision,
in their lawyer's decision whether or not they want to
trial with settlement. But my view is that there's a settlement.
Then again, Michael Jackson, you know, with his hand from

(09:03):
the grave, is now controlling the narrative again, where if
there's a trial, all this information can come forward. And
you know where my view is. Way, Robson's history has
already been still and hopefully his future doesn't get stolen
as well by you know, agreeing to keep quiet.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah, and we just had a settlement in another case
less than three weeks ago with the Virginia Roberts who's
now Virginia Goofrey against Gishlaine Maxwell. She settled her. It
was a defamation case. No, oh, you didn't hear about that. Huh?

Speaker 1 (09:38):
I did not hear about one? A disappointment.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Well, she says she's happy. Virginia says she's very pleased
with the settlement. But she settled. And yeah, there was
so much opportunity there, you know, because she was a
subpoena in Epstein to take that positions and none of
that made you know, it's funny because here's ago you
you got your ear to the ground and this kind
of stuff. Even you didn't hear about this. This guy
was a I would have met it with Donald Trump. Gasially,

(10:02):
Maxwell was friends with Donald Trump. You know, there's a
picture of them together. You think this would come up.
They have everything on Trump in the world. He's talking
to a Russian Russian dressing, but this they don't bring
up at all. They know fascinating.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Well, it's you know, I had a chance to They
did a they did a march in They did a
march in March of twenty seventeen on Washington. It was
a very small march, not a whole lot of people
showed up, but it was four of Peter Gay, Pizza Gate,
et cetera. And I was lucky enough to be able

(10:35):
to attend that and to give a small little speech,
and I got to see to other people that were
involved in this, and it's just amazing just talking to
other people who, you know, obviously there are some who
on the way extreme, and then there's obviously people who
were someone in the middle. But the people that were
somewhat grounded, in my opinion, seemed it seems so you

(10:59):
could see the the just distress and the anger and
frustration in their faces that they've been working on this
a long longer than I have to try to get
this information out and they just keep on hitting a
brick wall. And what was funny being there is seeing
all the reporters that were there covering this case and

(11:23):
then to see their spin on what had actually happened.
I was there, so I'd seen what happened, and it
was it was just unbelievable to see it live in action.
How the media took what was happening there and totally
distorted it for their own.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Dialogue And what was the meaning? How did they report?

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Well, there were people there who were basically asking questions
to the attendees and asking questions to the speakers that
were there, and they took down the information and then
they did articles and of course the picture that was
posted was there was a family that had had made

(12:05):
up pizza gate t shirts. There's three of them, and
of course they they made the front page, you know,
and then they started talking about the crazy conspiracy theory
of of Pizzagate. What was going on. But at that
point in in the you know, and during that march,

(12:28):
most of them, most of the people there had graduated
now on to the next step, which is Petergate. You know,
Pizza Gate. We understand is you know, there's information there,
but it's also somewhat of a trap and that you
in many ways you have to step up, step around
that trap and focus on the more tangible items that

(12:51):
are there. And when I was there, it's you know,
many of the people there had were speaking about the
the overall scoping a topic of elite, the child exploitation
and how it happens, and all there's people from different countries.
There are people that came from California, there was one

(13:12):
I believe that came from I want to say England
and Canada. There was lots of people from all different
areas that literally comes to this march. And again it
was maybe several hundred to three hundred people there, but
it was really too again to get this information out there.
But of course you know, it wasn't really covered correctly

(13:37):
and we got swept under the rug.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Now well, oh yeah, I don't know if we talked
about this since I went on a rant and a
rave about this one night. But did you catch Rachel
Maddow when she was reporting on the contents of Wiener's
computer and how she started. She was mocking it and saying, oh,
supposedly Hillary went down and visited an island of pedal files.

(14:04):
Ha ha, you know, mocking Jeffrey Epstein and his island
down in the version ouns. Did you catch that?

Speaker 1 (14:12):
I haven't watched Rachel Mattow in a long time. I
haven't watched I've been trying to avoid mainstream media bank
taking it in bits and pieces because it's so it's
now once you get the veil lifted, it is so
blatantly obvious what was happening.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
It's programming.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
But that doesn't deprive me from Rachel Matta'll be you know,
you know what's that is. She's actually very good in general,
a very good journalist. It's just that when you sign
up with one of these big networks, you're basically signing
a deal with the devil. You're signing. It's essentially a
deal that it's going to either put you in one

(14:55):
one category category or another. And I've had discussions with
friends that both that they said, if you think that
that dipogoed me of MSNBC and CNN and then Fox
News and some of the others, isn't a planned thing,
You're crazy. You know. The idea is you basically divide
and conquer. You have one side that's going to have
one extreme, the other has the other extreme, and then

(15:17):
everyone's fighting amongst each other while the people that are
really doing the nasty deeds are going, you know, having
a field day with this.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Now.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Did you catch the sentencing of Anthony Wiener? Uh? And
do you have any information about that? Because one thing
I noticed was he pled, he made a deal on
one count, but there's still like four open counts hanging
over his head. So it would appear to me that
he's making some kind of a deal, like he's providing information.
And then this recently, they arrested Build a Blasio and

(15:48):
aid for Bill de Blasio, the mayor. You're mande with that, Schwarzberg,
I think his name is Schwartzman talk about that.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, it's you know, I can hope. I mean, obviously
none of us know for sure, but there seems to
be a lot more arrest happening. And you know, Donald Trump,
whatever his positives and negatives are, I don't know if
he's he is put in people that are really you know,

(16:20):
letting me floodgates open and saying, okay, we're going to
now start being honest about this and dealing with this,
because you know, I read an article that and I
don't know again how the accuracy of this is is.
Anyone's guess is that there has been more arrest when
it comes to high level pedophiles in the last six

(16:44):
months than there has been the whole Barack Obama presidency.
So I'm hoping that that's just just just a tip
of the iceberg, and that hopefully Anthony Wiener does have
the infant and it is. You know, it's so hard
because you have so many people talking about so many

(17:05):
different things, you know, so many sources. Yeah, there's sources
of the New York Police Department that say they've seen
it and they know there's tons of information on there.
And then you listen to, you know, someone like a
Roger Stone who says, yeah, he knows for certain that,
but you know, it's the waters are so muddied. I

(17:26):
don't know what to believe. And then you have the
whole set Rich thing and you saw that in the mix,
and it's it's you know, I don't there's so much
information coming out, don't it's hard to discern what's what
to believe, what not to play.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
I hear you now, but did you catch a thing
to it build a Blazer reading that school book to kids,
the Secret Pizza Party Book.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Oh no, I did not know, man, I tell.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
You, I've been talking about it a bit lately. But
we found this a few months back, you know. And
I just when this other thing came up with the
build a I brought it up again. The book is
called Secret Pizza Party and it's and you can't I
don't know how you go. I don't have to send
you the link because otherwise I don't know how you'd
find it, because when I went looking forward, I couldn't
find it. Somebody had to send it to me. And

(18:13):
it's a Q. What was that.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
I did read that book. I did actually look at it.
It's a children's book. And well, what funny was was
the reviews on Amazon. That was the funniest. Buddy got
banned by like parents. Even parents were like, right, this
book is awful.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
And that was before Pizzagate came out. They were saying, hey,
this is like a book for pedophiles. What's going on here? Yeah,
so yeah, fascinating and yeah, you.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Know, committing crimes and now it's okay and.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Secret handshakes and order the pizza to a different address.
And then sneak it over there. What the hell? What,
what the hell?

Speaker 1 (18:51):
You know?

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Oh my god? All right, now, it's interesting. We're talking
about Epstein, right and it's all over It's all connected together,
these guys because Epstein happens to be the neighbor of
Bill Cosby. Okay, in Manhattan. They're like right and right
next to each other, and there's a there's a they
have their own cop. They have their own NYPD cop
and a little booth right out in front of their

(19:13):
their their homes there with the biggest crimes in the
world are going on, and they got their own cop
right out there in front of them. Now today we
don't have the The Bill Cosby verdict has not come
back yet because we're taping us on Tuesday afternoon, two
thirty in the afternoon. So are you ready to make
a prediction? What do you think is going to go
happen with Cosby?

Speaker 1 (19:32):
I'm having I am conservatively optimistic that it will be
a guilty verdict. I think that Andrea Constant was held up,
that everyone was expecting her to be a somewhat of
a mess when she testified, and I think she was

(19:53):
credible enough, and that's why before the defense was wrapping
up through his chatter about maybe Bill Cosby going out
there and testifying and throwing that out there. And then
that recent development happened today from a woman by the
last name of Jackson, who said that she was talking
to miss Constance and she admitted that this was actually

(20:17):
a plan of hers to bring a big celebrity down
and cash in, and that that wasn't allowed in the trial,
but somehow they got her to stand in front of
the courthouse and read this the statement that you know
was banned from the band from the trial. So it
seems like they're kind of getting desperate, yeah, and realizing
that Cosby at this point is is not in a

(20:42):
good shape, which is you know, again, we're dealing with
what close to fifty women that have come forward. What
do we need like fifty one or fifty? I mean,
I don't know what the pushing but the tipping point
is very.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Interesting because in the Cosmic case, first of all, her
mother has a tape recording on for confronting Cosby and
asking about the drugs and stuff like that, and he's
turning back and saying, I'll pay for her college, I'll
pay for her college, so that that would seem to
be damning to me. And then there's the uh, the
what was the Workmen's comp or investigator you know who says, oh, yeah,

(21:14):
I know all about this way back then. It just
seems like that there's a lot the prosecution I think
put on a very good case. And what I'm hearing
right now from Seth Watts who's in the courtroom, uh,
and also from while I'm hearing Connor conflicting stuff, Seth
Watts says it just today. Seth Wats is the producer
for Nancy Grace used to be, you know, for cour
TV stuff. He has his own showing Independent Discovery now

(21:35):
all the time, produced a lot of different segments. He
just did that last job and a Ramsey thing and
he's yeah, no, no, yeah, he did the one with
that guy John Mark Carr. You know, he tracked down
John Markcarr, pulled him back out from under his rock.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Sorry, yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Now he's saying that the jury came back and asked
the question about count three. They've come back with three questions, one,
count two and count three. So he thinks he's going
to be a verdict today or at the latest tomorrow. Now.
Mark Ebner, who's been reporting on Cosby since the start,
even before his first report on it was suppressed. They
weren't even printed. So he has sources in the courtroom

(22:17):
that says that the jury seemed to be buying the
dirty old man defense. He's just a dirty old man,
you know, and just move on and all that. Move on,
move on, Let's get over with you know that that
weird summation that the end the defense had. So what's
your prediction you think's gonna be guilty?

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, I think I think he is. I think you know.
I'll tell you a funny story. I was listening to,
Uh there was a scene interview with Tom Mezziro and
this is someone who I'm gonna refer for nunc or
they don't have to really hold him in the high
st reguards. He was asked about the Cosby case. And
this was before and there's just when it hit that

(22:54):
he was there was a criminal trial and et cetera.
And he stated this, how you know sometimes these defense
attorneys don't even really bother to do their homework. He said,
you know, I can't understand how someone could accuse Bill
Cosby of this. He goes, I can't understand the whole
idea of drugging and raping a woman. I can't understand

(23:18):
how a person of his age possibly drug and then
rape a woman. And what was funny about that statement
was that he didn't even bother to read the settlement
where Bill Cosby essentially admitted to having sex with the woman.
He just said that it was in sensual And it's again,

(23:42):
it was this idea that somehow you can because he's
a celebrity, because people know him in the public eye,
because you know, he seems to be this all American
guy that could you know, has you know, squeaky clean,
that there's no way that Bill Cosby could ever do this,

(24:02):
do this type of crime. And as we're now finding out,
that is far from the case. And and that's and
I think that hopefully the jury will look past his
celebrity and see that, you know what, it doesn't make
a difference what he was portrayed as in you know,

(24:23):
in the Cosby Show and before that. What makes a
difference is is does this make sense? Does it make
sense that this accuser, who came before, even before a
civil trial, tried to get this in front of a
criminal trial and was told no, can't can't happen, then
did a civil trial and then after the fact that
she was already paid off at that point, decided to

(24:45):
bring it back as a criminal trial for what for
what purpose? It doesn't make sense? That does that make
logical sense? And of course it does. And you know,
it was just finally listening and then then interview tom
Mezer when they brought up don't think he realized that
she had brought up the wanted to go to a
criminal trial before that said well, you know, as you

(25:07):
can see, she went to a civil trial and sought
for money first, and you know that's and he's had
to bring it to No, Tom, no, she actually wanted
a criminal trial for us. He goes, well, that makes
sense because all you have to do is if you
were a criminal trial, you have now you know, had
the burden approved, and you just walk over to a
civil trial and you proved that, you know, you basically
proved your case and then you can it's it's not

(25:29):
a question of guilt, it's a question of how much.
So that attorney, he asked Tom the Great Tom.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Me, Well, let's tell you he's not that stupid man.
I think he was a he had he had a
he had a script. He wanted to get out there,
and I kind of a you know, do a little
hocus pocus there on people's attention, because he's definitely not
that stupid to make a mistake like that.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
No, he he definitely did not do that. He did
not do the research. Really, okay, both quoted by the
way they look quick A little side trip of the
tom Azzuro when he was on a show called Crime Time,
which is again it's an internet type Joe, I'm with TV.

(26:13):
He has stated that he believes the Sandusky case deserves
a second look. Oh really, that's it. Yes, the Sandusky
case deserves a second look. It's for me when I
look at tom Zu when I see somebody is he
should literally be walking around the streets of LA with
a sandwich board saying, if you are a high profile celebrity,

(26:36):
please hire me, because I could never. It almost feels
like it was fishing to get Bill Cosby the hire,
and he was fishing to have the Sandusky team bring
him on. It's just the things that come out of
this man's mouth occasionally is beyond reproach in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
But whatever Sandusky needs a second look to round up
small less people that were were what was going on?
Like the wife start with her, man, Okay, I'll put
the gusts on her. Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Exactly? Yeah, Dottie Fandowski, the you know, another person that
just can't let go of the fact that, you know,
the streams and the streaming and yelling that was happening
in the basement was just an apparition.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Yeah. And then he just busted his adopted son too,
when it was adopted kids for the same activity.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
How shocking, Yeah, shocking circle continues. Let's see. But that
that was my little die tribe toms through.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Okay, no, what about uh you know, you know I
just had on the widow, not the widow, the ex
wife of David Carridine. And did you ever look into
that whole thing because he admits to incests and she
accused me of incest and uh uh yeah, you didn't
know about that. Huh.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
You're teaching me, You're you're giving me a lot more
cases to be looking into. I did not know what's
you know that's on David Carrotty. Honestly, that never even
crossed my mind.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
But check it yeah, the court docs are on in
her divorce. Her name is Marina Anderson, and it's un
available on Smoking Gun. You can meet the actual divorce
documents when she accuses him of this, where he admits
to it, but also too, she said the first time
she met him was on this set of Kung Fu,
when he was working on Kung Fu. So she had

(28:26):
to be like thirteen years old, twelve, thirteen years old.
She wouldn't. She wouldn't. I couldn't hammer her down. She
wasn't the name met the first time, but then they
didn't actually get together until like ten or fifteen years later,
you know, according to the story. But I just found
that always wonder if you knew anything about that.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
No, I don't, but I will be researching.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Yeah, well I just did a show. Listen to it. Now,
what about what's new with the Roman Polanski?

Speaker 1 (28:55):
It's that case, so it's the latest news. Is rather
startening to me because of the stance that the victim
is actually taken and what you know, my belief is
that as you know, if you're a victim of child
abuse of any kind, you have a right to you know,

(29:15):
handle it any way you see fit, and you have
a right to forgiveness or not to forgive or you know,
it's your choice. But what's happening is, and this has
been going on for the least in the past two years,
it's really been making news that Roman Polanski feels that
he should be allowed back into the to be able

(29:36):
to you know, roam freely again and allow back to
the United States and essentially come back, have the charges dropped,
you know, time served, and then move on with his life.
Now the person that he actually raped when she was thirteen,
she is now obviously he's in the fifties and a

(29:59):
lot of time is past. And her view is that,
you know, I just want to go on with my life.
I just I'm tired of cameras being outside. But the
other part of it is she feels that Roman Polanski
has done his time and that Roman Polanski that the
prosecutors in this case have how should I put it,

(30:24):
have skewed it. So Roman Polanski, even if he does
come back, it's going to even you know, essentially gonna
be put in jail. What he what they promised him
in the past. That's it's disheartening to me because you know,
when you fight these things it's you're not doing it

(30:44):
essentially just for yourself. You're doing it for future generations
and for people future people that so they don't get violated.
And you know, she tested or stated that she doesn't
if there were any other people that have come forward,
which is true. But again that doesn't mean that there

(31:04):
were not other victims of Roman Plansky that just we
won't know about it. I mean, Ronan Plansky in an
interview stated when I asked about this, and I forget
where this is, what article this was in, but he
stated that all men want to f young girls, said
it like four times in this interview. You know, whether
you're a you know, a judge, you want to f

(31:27):
young girls, whether you're a lawyer, you want to have
young girls. Where you're this you you know, justifying that saying,
you know, well, this is perfectly fine. What I did
was perfectly fine. And what's even more disturbing is that
the victim has come forward. She has stated that she
even though you know, what happened to her was was inappropriate,

(31:51):
she was sexually active at the time and it really
wasn't as bad, you know, as people think. And the
reality is is that Roan Plansky literally lord her and
you know, to take photographs in Jack Nicholson's house. Jack
Nicholson was gone for the day, but his wife at
the time, he was a famous actress. Her name has
escaped me. She was actually in the house at the time,

(32:13):
but he lowed her in and then he gave her champagne,
and then he gave her half of a kaylude. And
then when she was out of it, he soughtomived and
raped her. And then when this was found out and
he was brought and you know, brought attempted to be
brought to justice, they basically dropped majority of the charges

(32:36):
except for one, and he before they could even give
him his sentence, he flew. He fled the country and
he went off to live in First he went to
England and they went off to the assistant of parents
citizen of France. So he went off to France and
lived there in various other countries for the rest of
his life. But from in Polanski he was not living

(32:58):
a difficult life. Sure, he was living in beautiful village
in France. I don't think he was, you know, living
in some sort of substandard jailhouse where you know, he
was giving bread and water every day. So the idea
that well, he's now in his eighties and this should
be dropped. And for Roman Plansky. Know, the reality is

(33:19):
is that back in the seventies, to get a conviction
of any kind when it comes to this, especially for
someone who was that high profile, was unheard of. And
now to go back and back in time and say
well that means nothing. What a blow that would mean
to all the work that has been done to bring

(33:40):
awareness to this topic. You know, Roman Polanski is in
many ways the post child for getting serious on crimes
against children. I was one of the first high profile
cases where you know, the child wasn't blamed for it,
you know, they actually put the blame where it probably
belonged to. And now it's twenty seventeen and we have

(34:03):
the you know, the victims saying well, it's not as
bad as you think, and he should be allowed back.
You know, I understand if you want to give him,
forgive him, that's your right. If you want to go
into the court of law, that's also your right. That's
also my right as a citizen to say, you know what,
you're dead wrong on this, You're totally dead wrong on this.

(34:25):
He what he did is is, you know, beyond redeemable
and he he should be thinking his lucky stars that
he's only in exile in France.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
You know, that's so true because especially when when you
look at it, like if there's any other victims of
Polanski or that crowd up there at Cana top of
that hill, you know who lives that who lives that
door to Jack Nicholson? But who is that guy? Am
Marlon Brando? Yeah, well had all kinds of is going

(35:00):
on in his house when Miko Brando was Michael Jackson's
bodyguard and the other son, Christian Brando, shot the sisters,
you know, all galore bizarre stuff. The other one is
Robert Evans mixed up with these characters. Who was you know,
implicated in a murder you know the oh, you know,
a very high profile or processed church guy, you know

(35:21):
of Roy raiding. So so anybody you know who has
information about what this crew and what's going on with
them and what they were up to, you know what
I mean? And plus two, didn't this victim too, Like
aren't there very detailed statements of hers from the past
where she was saying like, hey, I didn't even know
anything now she's saying she's sexually active, because back then

(35:42):
I recall her saying, I didn't know anything about this
kind of activity, you know that he was doing to her.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Again, I think what happens with time is in some
of some ways the mind and protects itself and you're
trying to bend of mind what happened, and you know,
you said, oh, it wasn't really that bad. You know,
I was thirteen years old and I was a wild child,
and you know, I kind of knew what the what
the what the deal was? You know, in her in
her book which came out, I want to say a

(36:11):
few years ago, I think it was called The Child
Behind Roman Polansky. There was the front cover was a
picture that Roman Polanski took during that photo shoot. She
used that as the front cover. So it's this idea
and a lot of it's Hollywood push by the way,

(36:31):
you know, I remember hearing an interview with On the
View with the Apologists of the Century, Whoopie Goldberg, talking
about how she couldn't figure out the words for this. Well,
I don't know what it was. I was it rape.
I don't think it was really rape, rate. I don't
know what it was and then she goes on further

(36:52):
and talks about when she gets some pushback from the
the other people in the UH in the discussion, she says, well,
you know, basically talk about how well she was only
thirteen years old and et cetera. And she goes and
then she reads a statement from Roman Plansky's friend, and
Roan Plansky says, well, in you know, and where he

(37:13):
comes from, you know, having intercourse with the thirteen year
old isn't that big of a deal. She then talks
about how in Europe, if this was in Europe, people
would have a totally different view about this, and that
it's only here in the United States that we are
we're so you know, shocked by this incident. And then

(37:35):
you have him winning the you know, the Academy Award
for the Pianist and everyone giving in standing ovation in
Meryl Street giving a speech about how awful it is
that he is exiled. I mean, what, you know, what
is happening. Seriously, you should be giving a speech about

(37:55):
how bad is the exiled. Why don't you give a
speech about how bad it is from these young children
to be trafficked, stuck in a room and be passed
around to every you know, man that wants to pay
you know, fifty dollars or whatever, and all they do
all day long is get violated, day after day after day.
That's what the Roman Philanspy case is about. It's about

(38:18):
those people that don't have a voice. It's about those
people that don't can't you know, get a settlement, can't
speak up. It's about them. Why aren't they speaking up
for them? And you very really hear it anymore from
any celebrity when it comes to this crime, this crime
of child exploitation is like taboo now to talk about.

(38:41):
You know, it's just it's beyond belief.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
Yeah, we can't say that there's one set of laws
for the average person. It's another set of laws for
you know, famous artists, you know, really talented artists that
they have their own, you know, set of rules. And
it's interesting too that for him to claim, oh, boy,
wouldn't be a crime. This is this is commonplace in Europe.

(39:04):
It's so similar to Epstein's comments when he says, oh,
you know, the same charges in New York. I just
would have got a ticket in New York, you know,
wouldn't have even been arrested, you know, yeah, the charges,
but look, what is crime is actual crime was raping
thirty little girls that they that they found, you know,
just just fascinating.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Well, you know, go to Belgium where you know, it
was right next to next to Amsterdam by the way,
Go to Belgium where they had that the largest march
in the history of their country called the White March,
where they were talking about the Dutroux affair, and it
was essentially about exactly what we're talking about, elites exploiting

(39:43):
children and in some cases murdering them. And that was
the biggest march in the history of Belgium, and it
was against child exploitation. So I don't think Europe really
you follows the WHOOPI Goldberg ferry in my opinion, I
really don't. I think they might have a more liberated
sense of you know, of a thirteen year old having

(40:05):
a relationship with another thirteen year old. Maybe they're a
little more liberated on that end, but I don't think
they're liberating the fact of a four year old having
drugging and raping a thirteen year old. I couldn't just
be me, But.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Well, I know in Spain or the kids down there
all the teenagers were allowed to drink, but you could
drink down if you're like thirteen fourteen years old? What
did I do? Just do?

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Here?

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Did I just screw some up? I just did? Can
you hear me?

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (40:29):
I'm a specially good of the tape here, damn it.
I was trying to download something for the play the commercial. Okay,
we are still we are still recording. Okay, good? Yeah. Yeah.
When I was in Spain, if you were thirteen fourteen
years old, you can buy, you could drink and stuff
like that. No one want to stop and you doing

(40:50):
with that? And also too, you know in the Vatican
the ag of can Did you know that's the age
of consent in the Vatican's twelve years old? I read that, Yeah,
the Vatican City.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
What is soccer? You know?

Speaker 3 (41:02):
And then it was there was like a debate maybe
which had raises that it's a world standard, and it
was a debate.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
Over it, you know, and then the Folpe comes out
and you know, I'm and I'm a Catholic by the way.
The Pope comes out and states, well, you know we're
going to now we're going to get really serious on
the crimes that have been committed against these children. Over

(41:30):
the years, we're going to get really serious about this.
But yet you can't even raise the age of consent
to eighteen, which really should be eighteen, because finding now
that the brain doesn't really develop into you into your
mid twenties, that you still you know, really, which doesn't
surprise me. Really, the brain's all over the place until
you hit roughly in mid twenties, and then after that

(41:51):
you kind of stable off. But when we're talking about
a twelve year old twelve years old, most most people
don't even and the idea of sex is not even
a part of their you know, being, it's not even there.
But what it is when it is there, it's planted
by another adult. It's planted by somebody who wants to

(42:14):
use this child for their own nefarious reasons. And the
Vatican it's like, just you know, a pr sense, you
would think that they would raise it to eighteen, even
in a selfish type sense, but no, they're bucking the
system because I think in many ways, a lot of
these high profile and people who have power are slowly

(42:37):
chipping away at the norms that exist, and it's I
think it's it's getting worse, and people need to start
speaking up even louder than they ever have, because you
know that if that doesn't say I don't know, what does?

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Yeah, I know you're talking about for about how prevalent
this is becoming. Especially you know what, who's that actress
who was saying before that there was gave the big
speech at the Oscars. Yeah, mellow Street right like in Hollywood,
in the in the film industry, and in all levels
of it. Because even you know, before I started doing

(43:17):
this show, and before I started uh talking about these topics,
it was a piece of cake for me to get
booked on reality TV. I would go to auditions all
the time, but then I would do sizzle wheels and stuff.
I get booked all the time. And now you know,
I apply for these gigs and uh when they talk
to me and they said, well, what kind of show
does he talk about? If I dare mention all I
do shows exposing better feel you can see the look

(43:40):
on their face. They make an e look on their face.
You know, I don't care any of those gigs anymore.
So it's just uh pervasive, you know what I mean.
In the Hollywood system over there. You were mentioned before
about how especially this young girl who was thirteen years

(44:04):
old was molested by a polan ski And then when
that changes, it changes you at thirteen. And then when
you go back and look at it, said, why I
had this other life of a series of events in
my life that were much worse and much more. You know,
you kind of played down the original one, even though
that probably changed the course of your life. Now to
deal with that, there's something called cognitive dissonance, or they

(44:25):
used to call it split personality. What can you sounds
about that?

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Well, cognitive dissonance. What it is is that it's hard
for people and the way I put it in most
simple terms, it's hard for people to believe that two
opposing behaviors can exist in one person. So you know,
a prime example would be killed still Costy, very very philanthropic,

(44:50):
but also a predator. So to put those two words together,
a philanthropic predator. It's very hard for people to wrap
their minds around because, especially when you are a celebrity,
what happens is is all this money gets poured into
creating an image, and with that image, then that becomes
your career. So when you have all this money and

(45:13):
all this time and attention and et cetera being put in.
When people see that image, it's very hot for them
to pull back and say, well, wait a second, this
is just an image, and there could be more to
this person than just him giving loads of money to
Temple University or whatever cause he was giving to that

(45:33):
there could actually be another side to the story. And
that's where and that is also, by the way, in
many ways used as a tool for especially by defense attorneys,
as a tool to get people to deny that it's
a possibility. And again going back to the Michael Jackson case,

(45:58):
that was a key use that Michael Jackson and I
hear it all the time. He would have children over
to his home and they would be very, very underprivileged,
and he would open his home up and he would
give lots and lots of money. He also had different
foundations that would give to children over the years. And

(46:21):
he was really he was a sort of He was
this man that would not harm children. He was the
exact opposite. He was the supporter of their rights and
supporter of their well being. But the reality is is
that that same person who was also an advocate, also

(46:43):
advocated for him to be able to take unrelated children
into his bed, and then he take it a step
further with the accusations and then to rate them. So
for people to vent to see Michael Jackson as a
philanthrop thick Peter Pan to then now have to switch

(47:04):
gears and see him as a predator that just used
this image to lore children and then rape them. It's
very hard for the mind too, to bring those two
ideas together. And that's and when I was at that
march and on Washington, that was the topic I spoke
about with cognitive dissonance, because it's if you can begin

(47:28):
to understand how your mind works and begin to understand
how your mind protects you from, you know, these diverse
and these polarizing views, right, then you can understand how
this happens.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Let me tell you something, I'm so glad you brought
this up. I thought you're going to talk about something different.
But this is something that drives me crazy. It just
drives me crazy because like, I've been involved in a
lot of stuff, and one was a Tiger Woods case,
right and by the way, Tiger Woods too, one of
those girls and he dated I came up with the
fifteen where I don't know if you know the whole
story with me and Tiger Woods. How I did all
the cell phones. I did the investigation of in Tiger
Woods case. And I'm the guy who vetted out all

(48:07):
the mistresses to find out if they were really what
Tiger Woods or they were not. I was hired by
an agent that was selling the story of these mistresses.
So but we found a lot of information, a lot
of stuff I can't talk about on the radio. We
found a lot of information. And one of these his mistresses,
quote unquote was a girl who he met when she
was a neighbor and she was babysitting for him when
she was like fifteen, sixteen years old. Now according to

(48:29):
the story, he didn't actually date her until she was
over eighteen. But you know, but that anyway, But that's
that's the thing. So when I'll be online or I
did a big investigation with Sarah Palin, you know, and
I'll try and talk to people and I get I
still know people who are intimately involved in the Palin family,
so I'll know information about what's going on. You hear

(48:50):
something in the news, I get tips right away. I
know about the Tiger Woods going into rehabit I beat
by an hour the National Inquiry. I knew about it before.
I just got an home magazine to president. It's the website,
you know. But I'll say something, you know, I'll say, yeah, no,
Tiger Woods is about to go into rehab, you know.
And someone will say, oh, he's not the type ed
you don't you don't understand about Tiger Woods, And I'll say, no, no,

(49:12):
I'm telling you I know what's going on. I mean,
don't know firsthand what's going on, but they have this
image of Tiger Woods in their head, and then in
order to support their image, they're gonna send me an
article like in People magazine or something like Tiger Woods
is press people and his you know his you know,
press agents, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
But they You're right, man, it's the power of celebrity
in such a way will allow you to commit these crimes.
But people will say, oh, no, no, no, no, he's a
nice guy. I see him like Trump, you know, I
see him and to apprentice. No, he's a smart guy,
got a boardroom and everything. He must know what he's doing.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Yeah. It's just fascinating, man.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
It's and it happens not only on again, not only
on these culture you know, famous people. It also happens
in real life. You know, you have a coach, a
teacher that is well known and loved and et cetera.
And people you'll have parents that will form a vigil
or march to, you know, support that teacher that's been accused.

(50:16):
Only the final later it's actually true. You know, the
what you see, you know, that's what you see that's
right in front of you. Sometimes isn't the full story,
you know, And that's and that's very true. I mean
I can look at the book of a I can
look at the front of a cover of a book
and it might be you know, a picture of you know,

(50:36):
flowers and daties. But in reality, that could be a
murder mystery. I mean, I don't know by looking at
the front cover.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Right right right. And even though like even like they
said that they'll they'll defend that teacher. And even when
it becomes obvious the teacher is guilty, there's still some
people will defend, you know, and make excuses for it.
It's just and I guess a lot of times too.
You know, there is this thing inside coology where you know,

(51:02):
you don't want to believe if a patient starts telling
you something bad about their mother, their mother mistreated them
and stuff like that. The first thing that goes through
the psychiatrist's head is, well, whoa wait a second. You know,
if I agree with this, that means that maybe my
mother didn't love me and my mother was bad to me.
Like there's certain triggers that you just automatically reject when
you hear them, you know, and you have to kind

(51:23):
of separate yourself from that otherwise you fall into that trap.
Very fascinating, man, the way the human mind works. This
might be a good time to take a little break,
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(58:31):
the Michael Parsiali MJ Victims dot com. Let me ask
the question, Michael, Sure. Yeah, if I went to MJ
victims dot com, what would I find?

Speaker 1 (58:45):
You would find a lot of different You'd find articles,
you would find the paining pieces, you would find videos,
You would find lots of things that relate to the
problem of elite child exploitation and also exploitation in general.

(59:07):
You know, again we talked about the Bill Cosby case,
which obviously we're dealing with now, you know, adult women.
It's it's a little bit of everything on there, and
you know, I started it four years ago, and you
can kind of see the progression if you go all
the way down and look at when I when I

(59:28):
started it to where it is now, and I try
to post there, you know, if I can once twice
a week, because there's only you know so much. You know,
I don't want to overdo it in some ways, but
there is a lot of information that that will, you know,
tie you in and it will also give you if
you're looking in specifically into the Michael Jacks decade. You know,

(59:52):
I don't discriminate. You know a lot of people say, well,
there's some tabloid articles out there and some other things.
My view is that yes, there are some tabloid items
out there, but sometimes those tabloids there are there is
information in there that is actually valid and and I

(01:00:14):
hate to say it, I think the tabloids in the
nineties were probably more restrained than the mainstream beat here
is today.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Yeah, you know they were. They usually checked their sources,
They usually you know, had some some validity doom. Now
it's it's almost like anything goes but that's what you
find there. And a lot oftimes people send me messages
or you know, someone has a wants to tell their story,
you know, I'll put a post out to you know,

(01:00:44):
the people to you know, to support or even if
they just want to tell the wrong story as well.
But it's it's the first of its kind. I think
it's the first of it's time where we are a
page that was dedicated to supporting the victim before the trial,

(01:01:05):
before the the court date, before all that, and saying
we understand you're going to be attacked, we understand that
you're going to have to deal with all this negative
press or no press at all, but we're here to say, look,
we support you and we are here to say, hey,
look we we get it, we understand, we believe you,

(01:01:28):
and and most of the cases that I do put
on there are very strong cases, you know. So that's
where you'd find if you go to MPTY victims.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
Now you say that you're pretty much you'll publish anything, tabloid,
any article on the topic. Have you noticed any.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
People you go ahead, I'm go ahead. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Have you noticed any people out there that are running
disinformation that are kind of like trying to steer the
information and different direction. I'll give you one example, Like
I've noticed certain people around the Jeffrey Epstein case, but
one we know for a fact is produced by the massade.
You know, the publishers is the massade. You know, it's

(01:02:14):
pretty much out there. I don't know how you can
look over like that, and it seems like there's stories
and articles always try to make it sound like it's
on the plane. Well, they were never on the Lolida Express,
they were never on Pedophile Island. So they have to
be clear because they want you to think they're all
these activity with Epstein and I believe Trump all took

(01:02:35):
place all the way far up in an airplane and
there's a small list of people and all the way
in some island far away, and that it wasn't happening
down there at mar A Lago in Palm Beach and
at Epstein's The charges were at Epstein's house in Palm
Beach and in Manhattan. You know, have you noticed that
that there's a lot of disinfo and gatekeepers trying to

(01:02:58):
steer things away. They trying to look like good guys,
but then they're trying to steer the discussion in the
wrong direction.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Oh always they're you know, And again the prime example
is obviously the what I've fount Rachel Michael Jackson case
is obviously paid trolls pay people that will But in
both camp we'll pretend to act and I a lot
of times they'll allow people comment on the page and
they'll start off and then they slowly I can see

(01:03:27):
them slowly turning, and I say, Okay, now I know
what you're really here for. You're here to throw out disinformation,
and you're here to make it sound like you're really
supporting what we're doing here, but you're really not. And
that it does not surprise me. And let's be honest,
if you're going to do disinformation correctly. The best way

(01:03:50):
to do it is to get have allegiance, pretended allegiance
with those you want to bring down. And I see
it all the time, and Jeffrey Exstein case certainly, have you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Gone back and looked at like the Ted Gunderson and
the Boys Town and Franklin cover up all that kind
of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
I was at one point. I didn't know anything about
the Franklin cover up until I started this page, and
then somebody sent me information about Jimmy Savile, and then
I don't know how it linked from Jimmy Saville to
the Franklin cover up. But you know, Ted Gunderson was
supple ahead of his time, so ahead of the curve,

(01:04:39):
and you listen to him now, and you can understand
back then while people were, you know, essentially calling him
a crazy nut job and whatever to discredit him. But
Ted Gunderson was giving facts, he was giving documents, he

(01:05:01):
was giving information, and it was fine to see him
do it on you know, a projector, you know, and
little projective and sit there and give discussions. But even
with that, the way he did it, it's still very compelling.
I could watch it at Gardesson Video and just see
him lay it all out, and it's it's incredibly compelling.

(01:05:24):
And people don't realize he had credit. That man had credibility.
Wasn't someone that just came off the street, you know,
mumbling to themselves. This man had credibility, and especially in
charge of the l A f b I.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
But he was a specially in charge of Los Angeles FI.
He was in charge of the hold of the district there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
That's what I'm saying. It's it's you know, he gets dismissed,
and there's a lot of people that come forward that
have credibility to get dismissed.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Well, let's look at for a second. Let's stick to Gunerson,
because you know, Gunerson, as the special Agent in charge
of Los Angeles, was the FBI agent that was in
charge of coin Telpro that was arresting and killing all
these black panthers over there. In a Ted Gunnerson was

(01:06:18):
coin Telpro. Even he admitted I knew Ted Gunderson by
the way, as a private investigator taking on it for years. Okay.
And also to you look at those old videos that
they took in those church basements and back in the
old days in the eighties and stuff, like that. What
they used to do was they would take them and
they were on video cassette and they would pass them around.
We'd mail them to each other to watch these videos,
not just those, but all kind of other weird videos

(01:06:40):
and stuff like that. But they never expected those videos
that were being passed around and videotaped in those church
basements whatever be on YouTube. They don't know when to
ever imagined that YouTube would ever exist back in those days.
So the people today who would think that possibly Ted
Gunnerson was just that kind of gatekeeper, because you got
to remember, out of only the people who came to

(01:07:01):
him for help, there was never an arrest made for
any of Ted Gunerson's work for pedophiles, you know what
I'm saying. Like, like many people would say that Ted
Gunnerson was the classic gatekeeper, bringing in the victims and
kind of steering him in the wrong direction. Have you

(01:07:22):
ever considered that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
I never have. I hate just you know, I always
when I look at Gunterson, I just see a man
that just is you know, maybe I'm wrong. I just
see a man that was very frustrated and angry at
what was going on and putting himself out there. And

(01:07:45):
you know I could again, it could be it could
be a wrong read. But when I see video, that's
what I got it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
You got to remember, okay, I was a young man
when I first started talking to Gunson, so I had
a lot of respect for him because he was so
much my senior, was this big reputation. Then I talked
to Jackie mcgooley, who was the mother of McMartin children,
and she told me, and it's before I had a
radio shown. It's way back in the eighties and Gunnerson
lived with her, and I don't forget how it came

(01:08:14):
up in the conversation, but she mentioned to me, she says, well,
you know Ted talks to Colonel Laquino on the phone
every day on his cell phone. And I thought, well,
why would he do that? And she said to me, well,
to make himself feel important. So I said, oh, okay,
well that makes sense, okay, you know all right, and
he does that, and I dismissed it. But then I
started hearing all these other accusations about him years later,

(01:08:36):
through you know, Stu Webbing all these people. Now, I
had another incident where Ted Gunerson was sued by Art Bell,
the radio host back in the nineties, and I had
helped art Bell out by helping to negotiate a settlement
in his lawsuit. But he had another lawsuit involving this
crazy guy in Australia, and so I said, boy, I'm

(01:08:57):
gonna roll. You know, I know Ted Gunnerson. Let me
call him up and if I could settle this thing too,
what the hell right, let me go to try. I
called him up, you know, and he remembered me and
we started talking. He says, no, no, no, I'm not
concerned about that because my Errors and Omissions insurance is
covering that for me. When you're a private investigator, you
have errors and omissions insurance.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
I have it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
So and at the time I said, oh, well that's great. Okay,
he's gonna change it. It's not worried. But I know
now that my PI Errors and Omission insurance is not
going to cover anything I see on the radio. It's
only going to cover something that I'm doing in the
course of being a private investigator. So that was incorrect.
You know, his that insurance, he must have had some

(01:09:39):
other insurance that was covering this. Then I had a
client right before he died, and this client told me
that she ran into him at the FBI headquarters in
Los Angeles, and he was there with a client and
he was they're processing some information. So according to her,
he was still down there working for the FBI in
some capacity as a consultant. Who knows, I don't know what.

(01:10:00):
But anyway, that's that's basically my story, my contact with
Ted Gunnerson what I know about him. Uh And and
you know what, man, the older I get and the
more I deal with this kind of stuff and I
see all the shenanigans and the distinfo people and stuff
like that, and the double agents and people taking money
all over the place, I get even more suspicious. So
that's my Ted Gunnison story.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Yes, like I said, I don't know you, I don't
know this is obviously I did see him on on
these videos. For me, it's hard to make an assessment.
They don't have a personal interaction with them.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
Yeah, I know. And I you know, I love the
videos too, man, you know, And I always respect him.
I always enjoyed talking to him. But anyway, but it's
just and what about today, do you notice anybody today
doing this now? Today? Because I look at this guy,
George Webb, and I just got the he b gbis
what he's doing. Are you following I don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
No, I know, no, I mean I know of George Webb,
but no, I haven't been following his you know it
was any of his videos or commentary.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Okay, Now, you mentioned earlier saying about how sometimes it's
women that do this molesting and you usually it is
like a school teacher, right, you see a lot of
that like this, Mary Kayla Turno.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
Yes, Mary, Well, the latest is that there is a
separation her husband, Veley or eli Is finally he filed
for separation. And I remember seeing interview with them, which
it was kind of a disgusting interview that Barbara WALTSS

(01:11:38):
did back in twenty fifteen. And Barbara walt Is we
all know her as you know, fluff artist of the year.
She in many ways portrayed it as a misunderstood love story.
You know that really vili Is You know, even though
he was only twelve when this actually started and she

(01:12:01):
was in her thirties, that it was just it was
just too it was destined to be and people just
couldn't wrap their minds around it. Well, what the problem
was with that interview is you could see Veli in
the interview. He seemed very very uncomfortable, and they asked him, well,

(01:12:22):
what do you think about your daughters, because at that
point we had one daughter, I think sixteen, and one seventeen.
What if they came back and said they were dating
they're much older teacher, you know, how would you feel?
And Mary Kay didn't say a whole lot, but Deli
basically said, I don't believe in that sort of relationship.
You know, a much older person at dating a or

(01:12:46):
having relations with a much younger person, And that to
me was the take that, well, you know what, I
think he's beginning to wake up about this, that this
probably was not the you know, the best thing in
the world for him. And it's rather telling because now

(01:13:07):
his one daughter that is I think nineteen, and the
other daughter is now eighteen, so I think they had grown.
So he's sort of done his job and now he's
filed for separation. And it doesn't surprise me that, you know,
maybe at this point he's beginning to reassess what has happened.

(01:13:30):
And when it comes to these female perpetrators, you know,
they always seem to it gets treated a lot light lighter.
You know. I remember they had a clip of Bill
Maher and Bill Maher was talking about this on his
show and he was stating that they you know, they

(01:13:51):
were asking ask who was on at the time, but
he was stating that this, this whole affair, really, you know,
isn't that bad, and that any one and winning, you know,
twelve thirty year old boy that was having effects with
his uh you know, is a hot teacher would be
the you know, admiration of all his students. And how

(01:14:12):
you know, as a society, it maybe a society's fault
that we just can't understand this relationship. And that's unfortunately,
how many of these relationships with an older woman, especially
if it's an attractable older woman and a young student
gets gets portrayed. It's not abuse, it's a right of passage.

(01:14:34):
It is something that should be commended. But the reality
is is that it still affects the child's mind in
any and whether it's a male offender or a female offender,
it still affects the child's mind. Because the child's mind
has not developed yet, it can't really process the information
that's happening. And to have it I remember in that

(01:14:57):
film I interview I think with Henry Rollins was saying, well,
wait a second, and he's now a father. How what
child that's you know, that's thirteen years old. It wants
to be a father at thirteen, And another one typed in,
so they thought it was horrendous and Bill margittall pissed
off and said, oh, well, I guess none of you

(01:15:18):
agree with me. But that's the unfortunately, the viewpoint when
it comes to female offenders, and we're finding out there's
more and more and more of them, right, this has
gone such under the radar that we're seeing that there
are more female offenders are that we're finding that are

(01:15:39):
actually abusing, both having male victims and female victims. And
some of these female offenders are doing some horrific, horrific things.
We're talking about, you know, infants. We're talking about taking
their child and having sex with them in front of
their boyfriends and passing them around, keeping them a slave.

(01:16:01):
I think there was one story where a mother she
had a with having daughters and giving the daughters to
her son as like a president to her son so
he could rape them. I mean, the stories are just
so incomprehensible to understand, but it you know, it's I

(01:16:28):
think as years go on, we're going to see that
that we really underestimated the female perpetrator.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
I can't agree with you enough because you'll see people
will say about this Mary kay La Turno, Well, well
it's lasted thirty years. It must have been true love,
you know. But you know, all that means is that
she got a hold of his kid when he was
young and infected his whole life. You know, it doesn't
mean that it was for the good. We don't know
what their personal life is like at all. Hey, well,

(01:16:55):
let me ask a question too. Is it true that
it came out that the whole separation thing was like
a publicity stunt to promote his business? He was, we
got a business.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
I don't you know? So far he hasn't. They haven't
retracted the separation. I mean, you know, it wouldn't surprise
me because he's also a DJ, and he also at
one point had a host for teacher contest that he
put on. That's like a scene night that when he
was when he was DJ, and Mary Kayla Turnal showed

(01:17:28):
up and signed autographs. I mean, really, so it wouldn't
surprise me. But the reality is that you know, doctor
Drew was discussing this and he said, you know, when
you look at Mary Kayla Turner when she's giving these interviews,
it almost seems like her emotional state is a that
of a twelve year old. She has this sort of

(01:17:50):
doe eyed look every single time someone interviews her, and
this uh, you know, affects that seems like she's a
somewhat of a delayed adolescence. And his view was that
if say there was a you know, the marriage was
dissolved and they ended up separating for good, that it

(01:18:12):
wouldn't surprise him in one bit that she then would
find another twelve or thirteen year old to go after it,
because that's where her emotional state is, is what he
was saying. That's where she is kind of stuck. And
I just think that it's it's really really it needs

(01:18:33):
to be. People shouldn't have a gray area with this.
You know, she's a teacher, a person who's in power,
a person's supposed to be teaching students, who then validate
trying to validate having sexual relations with a twelve year
old child, then having one baby, then going to court

(01:18:56):
and getting essentially a slap on the wrist and getting
let go, and then she goes find to the child
again and has sexual relations again, and then has a
second baby, and this baby is now she has it
while she's in jail, and then she comes out of jail,
and then they have a marriage, and then this now

(01:19:17):
young man has to somehow figure out how to be
a father at that age and that this is totally
normal and this is totally fine, and us poor mortals
can't figure out why this should be allowed. You know.
I remember someone bringing up the fact that in different
countries they have child marriages, and you know, all this

(01:19:37):
other garbage is a defense, and it's like, you know, yes,
there are other countries that are not you know, keen
on or understand the impact that it has. But I
don't care. I don't care what some culture that is,
you know, two hundred years behind us is doing. I

(01:19:58):
don't care. What I care about is the information that
we have right now here, in the here and now,
and that to me is important. But yeah, it's it's
the Mary Kayla Charnel story and furious me because it's
it's a story where there's nothing but excuse after excuse
after excuse, and it's and it's always portrayed, not always

(01:20:22):
sometimes portrayed as a love story, not as a case
of sexual exportations.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
Yeah. And you know, I remember when I was in
high school, an auto shop. There was a kid in
our auto shop and he let it slip that he
was having an affair with a married woman, an adult
married woman, we'll have fifteen years old. He was a
toll kid though, you know. But you know, and the
kid like once he told a couple of people and
then words started getting out. The kid was having a

(01:20:51):
heart attack, a nervous breakdown over this. It was way
too much for a fifteen year old kid to be
dealing with with the you know, the secret told keeping
a secret, you know what I mean. It wasn't bragging,
that's for sure. You know, it didn't seem like he
was enjoying the whole thing. So and we had some
teachers too, man, I got to tell you. Back in
the seventies, you know, there's some female teachers that were
very flirtatious with the students. Uh, I don't know. And

(01:21:15):
I'm glad you're bringing up the women too, because you're right,
a lot of them will go after the infants and
stuff like that. And then they're babysitters and nurses and
teachers and stuff like that, in these positions that you trust.
But people think that somehow that it's they're safer, you know,
and you put your guard down around these women. And
I don't think so. I don't like that at all.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
It's you know, you have to be vigilant and you
have to you have to be under be able to
understand that it's it's you know, not the gender, and
it's and it's not the you know, the outward appearance
or somebody that's going to kick you off. It is
the behavior and the behaviors. Usually you'll see in the

(01:22:01):
child that they're being abused, and then you'll see in
the in the perpetrator, and then the perpetrator wanting to
spend time alone, the perpetrator wanting to isolate themselves with
the child, or having, you know, inappropriate spending an in
an orderate amount of time with one child. You know,
those are the signs that you have to look for,

(01:22:21):
and you know, once you see them, you have to
really sit down with your child and have an open
and honest conversation where you're not really being accusing anybody,
but you're you're letting the child know that you're there
to listen, because in many cases that's all it takes
to stop this. The problem is is that it's you know,

(01:22:42):
a lot of parents and guardians don't want to sort
of cross that bridge because they feel it's inappropriate, or
maybe they're they don't want to get that person in trouble.
Nothing's really happening, and the reality is it's your child.
You need to take an active, you know, involvement, otherwise

(01:23:03):
you're putting up to somebody else and that somebody else
and then may never appear.

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
So yeah, I had that, Joanne. I think it's put
out Mitchelzivik who was dating a rock star, the one
that got arrested for raping on little little babies and uh,
he had all these girlfriends that were actually giving him
their babies so that he could rape them and stuff.
In the UK, you're playing with that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
Story, right, I vaguely, I think I vaguely read about her.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
Yeah, it was a real popular band because after we
did the show, we've heard from their fans and stuff
like that. They were still making excuses and trying to
blame her for reporting. Oh, by the way too, that
was in the UK or someplace in Europe like that.
I might have been Ireland or England. And the cops
covered that up, man, and she just went back and
got the internal affairs involved like that, and they're they're

(01:23:51):
they're pressing charges against some of the cops who covered
it up. I tried to get her back to come on,
but she disappears a lot because of all the stalking
and stuff at that. Now, what about this character. You
mentioned Victor Salva before we came on the air, and
I was looking him up. He's got to put on
that movie Powder with the Johnsva. Was Jos Volt in
that movie.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
No, that's a different one, right, No, that was the
Jeff Gobe woman's in that movie. Yeah, there was a
bunch of big actors in that movie. But Victor Salva
is coming out with his latest. He is part of
a franchise called Jeep as Creepers, which was before I
knew this story. I enjoyed Jeepus Creepers. I thought it

(01:24:30):
was a fairly good movie. I liked the frust installment
of it. But there were the third the third ones
coming out in September, so I know I talked to
I talked to you about the Sony ship with your viewers,
uh listeners once before. But what people need to realize
is Victor Salva was essentially discovered by Francis port Coppolah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
Because you told me that story. You told me that story.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
Yeah, go ahead, yes, Francis fort Copela, he Victor Salva
enter the contest. It was a Sony contest for a
you know, do your own home movie and we'll have
some d you know look at it and whoever does
the best you know, have the best screenplay or movie
will win a chance to you know, uh get you know,

(01:25:24):
get an opportunity to produce a big movie. So anyways,
Francis fort Coppola saw that movie, was very very impressed.
He actually won the contest. The boy that was in
that original movie was a boy who was the star,
and Mallie Wu was appointing Nathan Forrest Winners now Nathan
Forest Winners. Then was invited by Victor Salva to do

(01:25:47):
the big, well semi big budget not really movie called Clownhouse,
and Clownhouse was filmed. Part of it was filmed in
Francis sport Copea's Napa Valley home and then they did
some other shooting around the area. Now, during about the

(01:26:08):
end of the shoot, it was found out the Nathan
Forrest went to confide in to his mother. She had
suspicions that he was being raped by Victor Salver, and
it was being filmed by Victor Salver, and some people
believe it's being filmed by the same cameras that we
used to film the movie. So she then immediately took

(01:26:30):
her son off set and they went to authorities. Now
at that point, Victor Salver had police knocking on his
doors and they found the video and they found various
pictures of naked the previdresident boys all over the place.

(01:26:51):
And she was then by the people who were running
the movie told to bring her son back on set
to finish the movie because she was under contract. Now,
you know the cruelty of that. You know, first of all,
Clonas was not a big budget film, and any stretch
of the mind, the cruel scenes actually have that child
now have to go back to the set where he

(01:27:13):
just essentially and got the director arrested, to have to
film the balance of that movie, and then after the fact,
to know that there was actually anw scene of him
in that movie that was not taken out. It was
left in the film, and then to have that film

(01:27:33):
actually show where by the way, Nasan Forrest Winter's him
and his family were banned from the premiere, but there
was a movement by the people were running this fim
to try to get sub released to the one day
so he can tend the premiere. Oh my god, that's
mind boggling on its own. But then you fast forward

(01:27:57):
into Victor Salva getting released. He only did, I believe,
like fifteen months in prison, and they family filed a
civil suit against the production company and all that. And
these people have the pockets and they could barely get
enough to pay for the lawyers that they had hired

(01:28:18):
and filed the civil claim. So essentially when it was done,
they almost received enough. So you fast forward rica Salbers.
Now out, what does Francis fo Copolo do. He gives
him what's a report, He gives him money to live
off of and then helps him to find his next
job and bouches w him in a movie called Powder,
which is a was a Disney branched It was as

(01:28:41):
a sub subsidiary a Disney, but it was a Disney
produced film. Now, there were reports when this was going on,
it got leaked out that Victor Salba was directing this movie,
and then it got it sort of, it got back

(01:29:02):
to the producers and whatnot, and then they made a
statement saying, well, we didn't really know Victor Salva's history,
and you know, if we had known, but right now,
unfortunately it is what it is. And so they let
him produce. And there was articles out that Victor Salver
was actually having children show up on the set that

(01:29:23):
really weren't even supposed to be there, but that those
were the reports of the day. So the movie, before
the movie comes out, Francis for Koplak gives an interview
and they asked him, well, you know, what do you
think of the fact that Victor Salver, you know, raped
the child and the movie that you were part of
and you know, essentially bankrolled. What do you feel of

(01:29:47):
that now directing again? And his response goes, well, although
it's a tragic thing that happened to Nathan Forest Winners,
what happened to him there really was only a slight
different need and he didn't give the agents because the
agents were Victor Salvil was twenty nine and child was twelve.
But the abuse actually started happening even before the movie

(01:30:08):
when he was seven hunter eight, So but that was
Richter Salvas. Then he said, well, you know you're going
to sort of, you know, understand that his artistic value
has merit, and because it has merit, you need to
look over the allegations. I can't look at his personal
life whether or not I think he should be a director. Now,

(01:30:32):
him being a director was this exact vehicle that he
used to lower in Nathan Forrest Winters because when he
was eight years old they were. Part of their relationship
was he was making full home movies and Nathan was
the star. So he's essentially using that that authority as
being a director to abuse and harm this child. So

(01:30:57):
you know, Francis fort Kopelt essentially making excuses for Victor
Salver and bankrolling him and giving him more venues to direct.
And now we're talking about Cheaperess Creepers. That's another produced
transport Cope adventure hires Victor Salva again, maybe do the

(01:31:19):
first one. They do the second one, which is if
you watch the second movie, it's rather disturbing because one
of the first scenes is is this like twelve year
old child running in a field and a field of corn,
and this this monster, the cheaper creeper monster, comes up
and just picks him out of the field and then

(01:31:40):
takes off and goes away with him. Never didn't know
what happened to him. And the whole basis of the movie,
in my opinion, is somewhat of homage to what his
predatory behavior because the Monster movie only will pick victims
that he something that he likes about the victim, and
then he'll sniff and lick the victim. It's very creepy,

(01:32:01):
it's very odd, but it almost seems like it's somewhat
of an homoghe what he's doing. So now we fast
forward to twenty seventeen and Jeeper Screepers three is coming out,
and there are many people that have tried to prevent this.
He tried filling in Canada, and Canada basically kicked him out.
They wouldn't allow him to put ads out to find

(01:32:22):
cast members.

Speaker 3 (01:32:25):
You can't even you can't even go to Canada if
you have a DUI. Did you know that?

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
I did not know.

Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
They won't let you drive in Canada. Yeah, And they
let this guy in and they let him into Canada.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
They did, but eventually he got found out and he
was essentially if I was reading the article where he
was kicked out and said, no, I'm not going to
do a film there. But there is now a petition
that's out there for Jeeper Screepers three you can just
sit cheaper Sleuper Street petition. Someone has put it out

(01:32:57):
to petition the major movie theaters not to show this film.
So not petitioning people to not show up because they
know the loves of boycotts don't work, but maybe it's
a petition the people that are showing this movie not
to show it to pressure on them. My view was
that I think that, you know, it should be a

(01:33:17):
double feature, that they should show an Open Secret, which
is that documentary about child exploitation in Hollywood first and
then show the deeper three Preeper three movie, so people
that are understanding of the you know, the real cost
of this man still being a director, and it's it's just,
you know, it's another sign of how you have an

(01:33:42):
Open Secret, which is a documentary trying to help child
actors in Hollywood getting essentially doors slammed in their face.
Every every distribution company did not want to show this
film and having the no one in Holloway supporting it,
no big actor, no even big former child actors getting

(01:34:02):
behind this film. But yet Jeepers Creepers three it's going
to show I'm sure nationwide and worldwide, make a whole
boatload of money. And the person directing it, it's a
known registered sex offender. That's the dichotomy.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
Now what about his victim? His victim's an adult. Now
does he do interviews? Maybe gonna want to show.

Speaker 1 (01:34:25):
I would hope you could. If you could get nissed
and Forrest Winters on, I think you that would be fantastic. Yeah,
it'll be nice to hear from him. I will send
you his his name, because he was active when Powder
came out, or him and his friend he was in
I think twenty one at the time. Him and his
friends during the premiere picketed their premiere and they actually

(01:34:47):
handed out flyers and I actually did make a little
bit of a splash in the news saying, hey, you
know you're supporting a known predator. Please don't go see
this film. And I'm hoping that maybe there's something that
he can get behind before Jeepers Creepers three comes out.
Now that he's an adult and probably has children of

(01:35:07):
his own that it can sit and you know, really
get behind this and maybe give interviews and discuss why
this is so important that this film should not be
uh never see the light of day, because what's happening
is just gonna go in the pockets of these predators,
gonna go in the pockets and the people who enable
these predators. But yeah, I'll send you his name and
hopefully you can't get him on the show. I think

(01:35:29):
it'll be a very interesting interview.

Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
It should be easy to find because if you've got
his middle name and his age and stuff like that,
it's really easy. Now, it's funny you mentioned that movie
an open secret because you know amy Berg who directed
that movie, and then once she got paid for directing
that movie, you know, she refused to promote that movie.
She she refused the producers to do any kind of
promotion for the film.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
It's it's you know, amy Berg has I think a
lot to answer for on that. I mean, she you know,
it's one of those things, well, you know, we can't
get distribution for her. She did the New York premiere
and I was like, you know what if you get
very few opportunities in life to really make a difference.
She did with her first movie before that, one of

(01:36:11):
her first movies deliver Us from Evil, which is about
the Catholic Church. That got why distribution. Okay, so you're
you're in your own industry, is doing exactly what you
just did a movie on that's going on with the
Catholic Church. You're in a really really important position. Don't

(01:36:31):
take it lightly. Don't worry about the next movie projects,
you know, focus on what's right in front of you.
And she could have done that, but what happened was
she immediately had another project and she's working on that
and that's now the big thing in her life. You know,
why not when you did this movie, say you know what,
I'm going to take a year off from directing, and
all I'm going to do is promote the hell out

(01:36:52):
of this movie because this is such an important topic.
Never happened. And I agree with one of the producers.
I think his lessons on Valentinas that this that is
what essentially helped to sink the ship on that movie.
Because we don't give interviews, we you know, we need

(01:37:14):
to sort of, you know, kind of lightly promote the
thing and then move on. It's you know, it's going
to die. It's going to die on the vine. And
that's what happened to that movie. And you know, and
I also blame Hollywood. I blamed some of the child
actors that you know, maybe had didn't have these awful
things happened to them, So maybe you know, deserve some

(01:37:36):
payback for them being successful stars, being successful in Hollywood
and not having to go through that ordeal. You know,
they should have got behind that, you know, DiCaprio, you know,
some of these other major players should have said, you
know what, we all benefit from Hollywood. We all and
I'm sure they all know that these things exist. The

(01:37:58):
least we can do is make sure that we speak
out and get this information out. The only person that
said anything when it's quickly shut down was Elijah Wood.
Elijah Wood came out and talked about his experiences and
he said, you know, although nothing had happened to him,
he knew that there was a really you know, an
underbelly to Hollywood and it you know, when he saw

(01:38:21):
that movie. Because he's talking about seeing the movie. That's
how this whole topic came out. He said that you
know that there's something definitely going on, and immediately after
he said that, the pressure that was probably put on
him because he almost basically made a retraction. Right, Oh,
it's wait. Wait.

Speaker 3 (01:38:40):
You know, Amy Bergs has a history too, like she's
a supporter of those West Memphis three you know they
did that, a cult art or of those eight year
old boys, you know what I mean. She's a huge
fan of theirs and supporter of theirs.

Speaker 1 (01:38:52):
And so Johnny Depp, who's also a huge fan of
that what's that guy's name that was an independent Uh,
there was the accusations about him too. He was like
the guy in the seventies and eighties that did these
weird independent magazines. So I can't remember, they will come
to me. But he's just he's a supporter of him
who's also supposedly tied to the Stranklin cover up. Really

(01:39:16):
supposedly he filmed a snuff film or something and he.

Speaker 3 (01:39:19):
Was, oh a HUNTERD. Thompson, Hunter Thompson, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
Yeah, Hunter Thompson.

Speaker 3 (01:39:25):
Right, I gotta talk you, Yeah, I gotta talk to
you about that after the show and we'll talk to
you interesting too. Oh I've almost forgot this. Yeah, the guy, uh,
you know, first of all, But we'd go back to
open secret for one second. I'm friends with someone who's
intimately involved with different Strokes, and even they didn't know
they know Todd Bridges, and even they didn't know he

(01:39:46):
was molested, that he was in that film. But the
other one is, did you know remember that movie Capturing
the Freedman's.

Speaker 1 (01:39:55):
Know what that movie?

Speaker 3 (01:39:55):
I'm sorry, Capturing the Freedmans.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
I do not know that movie.

Speaker 3 (01:39:59):
Now, Oh man, I'll sing you a link. You gotta
watch this. You'll love it. It's a great film, no matter what,
even if, but it tries to cast doubt on this
big case in Long Island. It wasn't Long Island, or
it was Long Island, New York. But this guy who
was a hit ran a computer school and was molested
all the kids in his neighborhood. And his two sons
were involved too. And then his son became the biggest

(01:40:22):
clown in New York, in Manhattan, and they were doing
a film about him. The guy who owned moviefone was
doing a film about this clown, the most prolific clown
in New York, and for the children's parties had a
waiting list for years and years. He got paid a fortune.
Pamela Anderson used them all the clown to the stars.
And in the middle of filming that they found out

(01:40:42):
that his father was convicted of molesting all these kids
in New York. Now, the guy that owned movie Phone
made that film. That was his first film that he produced.
You know who turns out he's best friends with Jeffrey Epstein.
You know this film that tries to cast out and

(01:41:04):
the film is so it's so one sided. Man, There's
so much more went on that they didn't put in
the film. And even if there's a part about the
guy's brother saying, oh, I never knew anything, I never
knew anything, and then he admitted later on that, oh
I had to wait. I lied during the film. My
brother did molest me. And I had to wait until
he was dead because I promised that I would never
say anything while he was well, our mother was still

(01:41:26):
alive or some kind of crap like that. I'll sing
you a link to that, and I'll tell you about
Johnny Deppman, I got some information that Okay, I don't know, man,
I know, man, it's you know, I tell you this,
this whole situation, it is so prevalent in Hollywood first
of all, you know, and in the media, and they

(01:41:48):
all know about it and they all cover it up.
Is it because they're all involved or it's just a
taboo topic or powerful people involved with What do you
think is going on?

Speaker 1 (01:41:57):
There is no doubt in my mind that a lot
of these people in all that there is a web
that goes you know, stretcher than every tentacle, and that's
how a lot of these and it could be I
think a lot of these people are compromised. And it
necessarily doesn't all have to do with you child's exploitation.
It could do with other things. But I think that
there is you know, in order to make it in

(01:42:21):
any of these industries, that you have to somehow compromise
yourself to do it. And then you know, there are
some people that maybe escape that, but I think there's
so many. You know, when you hear about you know,
when you listen to the you know, to you know,
all the mainstream media outlets, and you have such a
you know, uh, a chantilizing case like well, you'd set

(01:42:46):
Rich as an example cantilizing case. That is, so any reporter,
would you know, would you know, get their left leg
to be able to get in there and get all
the information and really dig deep, and it just gets buried,
and anyone that comes forward that even dares to bring
it up is chastives and told to be quiet. You

(01:43:11):
know that there is something else going on. And somebody
said this, and I do agree that a lot of
these mainstream outlets are nothing but vanity blogs for the
people that own the network or own the stow or
own the station. That is their perspective, and they're going
to make sure that only their perspective comes out there,

(01:43:32):
and it's nothing more than their you know, sort of
their own blogging, but in a very very big, big way.
And I mean the stories. There's so much information there
that you know, you want viewership, You want people to
be intrigued and just have their minds open, wide open.

(01:43:54):
You would think that these stories would be major, but
they're not. They were at one time, might take it
one time, they wore stories that could get out there,
but now it's just so, you know, pay to play
that I think a lot of these people have been
paid off.

Speaker 3 (01:44:11):
Yeah, you look at this guy, Roger Ales, who just
died and they gave him eulogy like he was a
great guy when it was so prevalent. It was sexually
harassing these adult women. You know, they were at Fox
News throughout the whole place. But if you go back
and read the accusations against this guy back when he
was the producer whatever, the manager of Mike Douglas for
the Mike Douglas Show. When he was running the Mike

(01:44:33):
Douglas Show, this guy was bringing a week after week
sixteen year old girls into his office. A duell the
Shenanigans put him in there. You know, this is a
lifelong and anybody who you know, listen, we all know
people like that. You know what I mean. It's these
creepy mfforts, man, you know what I mean. And you
distance yourself from these kinds of people. You don't want

(01:44:54):
anything to do it. You don't want to be alone
with them, you don't want to go to their home.
You know, you don't need me right away. You know
he's not saying some creepy crap, you know, and you
avoid them. Everyone knew this about Roger El since the
Mike Douglas Show. And then he goes and he goes
to work for the Republican Party, and then he goes
to where he takes some our Fox News. How do
you how do you go up, up, up, up up

(01:45:14):
in your career when when you're a super creeper that
everybody knows is a creeper. I guess because a lot
with him, a lot of the stuff you hear of
these reports and these women is they didn't just have
to go with him, they had to go with his
friends too. So he was using his power to procure
these women and then pass them around to his friends.

Speaker 1 (01:45:32):
Hey, again it's cow. How can you compromise, compromise black man,
these individuals And again again miss Franklin, cover up is
is a time example of that. And you know, it's
sad that even to the state, it's called the conspiracy theory,
it's called that's what it's it's labeled. And with all

(01:45:53):
the years that have gone past, with all the things
that we have seen, with all the information with you know,
even you know some of the the victims of that
case that refused to recant to this day, you know nothing,
It just it just doesn't face people. And and I

(01:46:15):
agree with what h. John DeCamp states, and that's if
you can control you know a certain part of the
you know, certain players in the world being, the government being,
you know, the media being, the judicial system. Then you've
you've you own everything, and all you're doing is just

(01:46:36):
putting people in place in different roles, and the rest
takes care of itself. You can go on living and
doing all these awful things and no one's going to
say word.

Speaker 3 (01:46:48):
Well, well, you know, by the way, and I had
Tim tat On, who was the producer of that movie
Conspiracy of Silence, but to cover up with the the
camp you know when I'm talking about different and cover up.
But I also had Henry vincent On who knew Lawrence
King and Craig Spence, you know, and he was blackmailed

(01:47:13):
by Craig Spence and he ran the call Confessions of
a d C Madam, But he was a homosexual madam
that used to provide homosexual escorts. And they started demanding
that he would produce children for me. And this guy
was convicted, by the way, This guy was convicted the
midst of us. Then after he got out he started
talking about it more. They convicted him again for something else.

(01:47:33):
But he told me, he says, well, you know, we
would throw these parties and when it was little boys
and you know, all stuff going on, and people like
Ted Copple would be there and he names names, so
it's the same people, you know. And so Chris Matthews,
you know, talking about how we oh, I know, Comet
Ping Pong. It's a great place I take my grandkids,
you know, like you gotta wonder, man, like how much

(01:47:56):
dirt they got on these guys?

Speaker 1 (01:47:59):
Good? I'm sure that a lot. And I said, when
you can't even bring up, you know, when you have
somebody that you know went on, I think it's David
swan or I forget. I know it's lasting sworn when
he did the the small I mean I'm talking real
small again, really really balanced piece about Pizza Gates. And

(01:48:26):
he's explained, okay, well, this is why the people believe
this is could be happening. It's not a conclusive you know,
he can't really draw it's not conclusive evidence. But this
is why they're thinking that. And then for him to
immediately be shut down, immediately all of his past videos
to be somewhat erased. He's still working in in that

(01:48:51):
I think we'll CBS affiliate. He's still working there. But
he was really told shut up, don't talk about it,
and you know, when reporters can't do that, when their
hands are when they're shackled. We don't have real journalism anymore.
It's gone. It's it's gone, and it's up to the

(01:49:13):
independent media to do their job. And you know, the
the pashtag of fake news that was bantered around is
now beginning to bite them in their their own behind
because now it's being used to call them out. People
are are not idiots. We kind of know that. You know,

(01:49:35):
you keep on harping on certain issues that are partisan
on one side, and then the other side does the
exact same thing. It's but not you're not really addressed
in some of the more important issues. It's a it's
all script, it's all make believe and I don't know
it's it's I'm just hoping that, you know, there needs

(01:49:59):
to be a network the niche in that work that
is from the ground up, just real journalists, you know,
coming together and putting and saying we're not going to
there's no topic off limits. This isn't about democrat, is
not a Republican. This is just about this is the information.
And unfortunately, I doubt that will ever happen unless unless

(01:50:24):
it's on the Internet.

Speaker 3 (01:50:25):
Yeah, because people want to hear this information. It's obvious,
you know, like even the guy Alex Jones. You know,
you guys have millions of listeners, man, because people want
to hear this stuff. They want to hear the truth,
you know. But unless you have the publicity and the
money to buy the station airtime stuff like, they just
can't get it, can't get it out there. Man. Listen,
we're pretty much out of time. We're here with the

(01:50:46):
Michael What's is depressing pertonality just you know, I know, man,
it's just so overwhelming man. You know anyway, with the
Mike parsiality, great guests, Man, I can't think it of
Mike always to become you always become prepared with great
info in your website is mj Victims dot com. Uh,

(01:51:06):
what do you want to leave us with before we
got to go?

Speaker 1 (01:51:10):
I want to leave you with that real quick, that
be on the lookout. I mean, there is a movement now.
It's it's called the m uh the pedo sexual movement,
and it's it's trying to drive on the coattails of

(01:51:31):
the LGBT community and they're actually putting on advertisements. It's
an l g B t P community, and what they're
essentially trying to do is desensitize people to what to
pedophilia and make it as it's no longer a scourge

(01:51:53):
and society. What it is is actually a you know,
a legitimate sexuality, and you've got to you have to
be vigilant and you have to realize. And I'm hoping
that the people who are in the LGBT community, I'm
hoping that they I see it for what it is
and stamp it out because they when they back in

(01:52:19):
the seventies when the LGBT movement started, if anyone does
their history lesson, you'll see that there were members of
NAMBLA and members of this community embedded already trying to
get themselves in to be legitimate. And it was only
after several years that the community finally said they got

(01:52:42):
to kick these people out of here because they're bringing
down the cause. But they're now trying to make a comeback,
and they're trying to because of what happened with the
transgender issue, so I think it's a valid issue. They're
now trying to say, well, we can push it one
more step further and if parents and people are not

(01:53:02):
vigilant and aware of this and see it for what
it is. It could become a really it could be
marketed as something that's legitimate, and it can't be. So
you're going to hear that term pedo sexual and when

(01:53:25):
you hear it, if someone says lg BTP community, make
sure you get right on it because it's scary. It's very,
very scary that they're trying to push this belief system
on the rest of the rest of the world and
trying to make it legitimate. So that would be what
I would leave people with. Just keep on being vigilant

(01:53:47):
and keep on looking out.

Speaker 3 (01:53:50):
Because because the last time you want to show you're
talking about some little boy who was on a TV
commercial with a bullgag in his mouth or he's talking
about a bullgig or something.

Speaker 1 (01:53:58):
Yeah, it was a show called I can't remember now
because I know I didn't watch the show. It was
a Fox comedy show. And on the show they were
had this I think I want to say it was seven.
They had him in a dress and they had him
saying lines like gee, the wind is blowing up and

(01:54:21):
it's sitting in my vagina, and then they had something
that looked like in SMN s N M Gagball. I.
I don't think it was, but I think it was
betrayed that way in a very clever way to again
push the show is called the mix, to push the
narrative that well, you know, let's let's make this into

(01:54:43):
a comedy type thing. You know, it's it's really, isn't
it cute? See that's the seven year old in this
type of environment. And again it's the slow deterioration, and
it's you know, they used to say that and back
in the day he would watch television movies. It would

(01:55:05):
be sub subliminal messages put in and you know, one
or two frames would have a subliminal message and it
was there to you know, make you want to, you know,
buy a you know, you buy a pizza or whatever.
It's I think, the same thing, but it's being done
in not by subliminal messages, but by outright in your

(01:55:29):
face type messages. And they're trying to make it so
outrageous that you would say, oh, well, this is just comedy.
Well you know, it is in comedy. And I was
just also reading about Al Franken, who did a he
was roasting who's he he was he was roasting somebody.
But anyways, in the roast, he was roasting the guy

(01:55:51):
from all in the family neath Head I can remember now, Yes,
he was roasting him. And in the roast he was
talking about how Rob Ryan's father, Kyle Reiner, used to
bring people home and they would rape him and they

(01:56:12):
would screw him and all this and that's how we
got successful. And he was joking about it like this
was part of his comedy routine. Again, you know, this
is the stuff we have to be aware of and
we have to start getting up setover. It's you know,
I understand your comedian, but there's certain things that you

(01:56:33):
should really, you know, be leery of and stay away
from because there are people that are actually that's happening
too that it's not a laughing matter. So again that's
just be aware that that is a movement that's going
on right now. I think the movement is called Heart
and Progress or something of that terminology, and they're trying

(01:56:55):
to get people to go on the bandwagon.

Speaker 3 (01:56:58):
Mike Parsielli, thank you so much. Next time, as soon
as you have something you want to talk about, give
me quote.

Speaker 1 (01:57:02):
Put you right on ear, okay.

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