Partick Knowleton Brett Kavanaugh Insider

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we got all the stuff in the news about good
Brett Kavanaugh, a twenty four hour news station Brett Kavanaugh.

(02:03):
But we have an insider, Patrick Nolton, you might recall him.
He's been on our show before. I encourage you to
go back to the archives and find that show. Patrick
Knowlton was a witness in the event's foster death. He
was there at the parking. He was not eyewitness not
to the actual murder, but he saw the car there
contacted the authorities right away. He had notes anyway, Patrick

(02:28):
Nolton is going to tell us about his experience with
Brett Cavanaugh. So oh by the way, too, he just
wrote another book too, called as If It Never Happened.
It's going to be in the Operaan Report bookstore. He
can get on Amazon. His website is FBI cover up
dot com. That's FBI cover dash up dot com. And
you can meet him in person. Be friendly when you

(02:51):
met on Okay, you know, maybe I shouldn't be giving
you a whereabouts that you know, but you meet him
in person, you know what I mean? Syracuse, New York.
Pomp's Rings in Tampa, Florida is gonna be doing book signings, okay.
And I just had some trouble getting on the phone.
I was worried, maybething got to him. Patrick Nolton, are.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
You there, I'm here. Nice to hear you, ad Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
You too, man, Thank you so much for getting hold
of me.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yes, yes, absolutely, yeah. Well, uh, I guess the best
best to start is how I met Breck catalog and
and give you a little background on to how this
all came about. Before we get a lot of time
with the guys.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
W way, wy, don't you remind the audience about who
is Patrick Nolton? Tell us about your life and what
you're doing. I know the Mexican Yes.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yes, they are on vacation, and so you caught me
at a good time. But yeah, So just a little
background information. I currently I worked as a healthcare consultant,
So I'm doing healthcare work, trying to hold some of
these hospitals together that are that are bleeding out because
of a lack of money and all that kind of
stuff's going on. So I spent a lot of time

(03:56):
working with medical staff and the leaders. How I got
involved in the Vince Foster case. I was heading back
home to house in Virginia when I pulled into Fort
Marcy Park where Vince Foster's body was found at six
o'clock in the evening. I got there at four point
thirty eight, about the time of death. We went to

(04:17):
relieve myself. There was a guy in the park who
had his car back then there's only two cars in
the parking lot. Brown Honda with Arkansas license places an
older car and then this other newer kind of bluish
gray car back then the guy sitting in it looked hispanic,
middle Eastern. I couldn't really tell. I did my thing,

(04:40):
and I got back in the car and left. And
next day the Vince Foster was found dead in the
park and they believed his body. They believe he died
around four point thirty. I was like, wow, I was
there at four thirty. He had to be kidding. So
I called my wife, now she's my girlfriend. Then she
was working in a PhD. And I said, you know,
I was at the park where they found this guy's body.

(05:00):
She said, we'll take notes, write notes, write everything you remember,
write everything down. So I did. I wrote everything I
remember about the guy at the cars and what I
saw inside the cars. So anyway, I reported that to
the police and the park police that's who was investigating
the death of Vince Foster. And then I went and

(05:20):
went about my life and I told everybody I knew.
I said, I can't imagine I was at that park
urinating and there's this Srince Foster, the president's best friend,
which is true, but they would say his best friends.
But he was in the park and I was there.
Can you imagine that? And so I told lots of people,
and then I kind of went off and did my
did my thing. But it was rebuilding a house down

(05:41):
in Virginia. And I got a phone call from a
reporter about eighteen months after after this whole thing blew over.
Let me take a step back, so I did. I
was interviewed by Robert Fisk, office of Independent Council. He
was actually called a special prosecutor. He wasn't actually an
independent the concert. He was a special prospertor looking into

(06:02):
the death of Foster. So I met with Larry Monroe
Bill Cobb, who with the the agent's working on that case.
And I was in their office twice, interviewed about the
cars that I saw, on things that were I observed
in the park, and gave them all the information they
possibly could, and then they wrote the Fist report, and
the Fisk report of course said I couldn't identify the

(06:23):
man I saw in the park, which I said I could,
had nothing really to add to the investigation, which I
know I did, because the car that was in the
park did not belong to Vince Foster, you though it
had Arkansas license plates. And they just kind of felt
about my whole testy, So now speaking the reporter great

(06:47):
gives me a call out my house. And when I
talked to you, and I said about what I said
the death of Vincent Foster. Now a year and a
half had passed, and I'm like, it was a suicide.
You know what more can I or more can I say?
He said, can I get some information? I have your
interviews with the FBI. I usually see them. So I said, sure.
This is in nineteen ninety four. I was interviewed by

(07:09):
the FBI and the Robert fitzkepeople. So I go to
his office, I meet him, go to his I wanted
to meet him in an office book because I said
no idea what his game was. And he starts showing
me the reports and I see that they're falsified. And
I'm saying to myself, this is a lie. I didn't
say this, This is not true. I didn't, you know.
So he's taking all these notes. Actually I think he's

(07:30):
tape recording me. But anyway, in Washington, d C. You
can do that. He writes an article for the Sunday
Sunday London Telegraph London Sunday Telegraph. Excuse me, and says
to me, and I'm gonna I'm going to run a
story about you for you can Star. Now Ken Star
is now taking over the investigation of Whitewater, and he said,

(07:54):
I'm going to write an article that you've never been
called to the grand jury, to give your touch someone
about what you saw at the park. So he writes
this article and comes out on Sunday, arrives in America
on Tuesday, and we my girlfriend. I walked down to
the paper Standard to get the newspaper and see what
article he wrote before he left. So it says an

(08:18):
interesting part of a little twist to the story. He
Ambrose Evans Pritchard calls me on the phone on Sunday.
He's on his way back to London. He says, I
hope I haven't put your life in danger by what
I'm when I'm printing in this in the London Sunday Telegraph.
And I said, what are you talking about? He says,
your life may be in danger. I'm like what. I

(08:39):
had no idea what he was talking about, I thought,
I said to my girlfriend, I said, this guy is
kind of wacky, you know. So anyway, that Tuesday afternoon,
I gets the paper and it's a full page. Uh,
spread in the in the in this Telegraph, this huge
newspaper circulated around the world. My picture with Hillary Clinton

(09:04):
is in the column, and Vince Foster and Bill and oh,
it's just it was shocking to see my name in
big bull letters with all these other people. I couldn't
make sense. But then I read the article and I
was taken aback by it. So we go back home
and the next afternoon, I get a phone call and
it's FBI agent who's working for ken Starr, and he says, uh,

(09:25):
this is not what my name is, Agent Bransford, Russell Bransford,
that I'm going to come over to you home here
and deliver a subpoena for you. I said, it's apena
for what He goes then period for the white Water
Grand billion, the death of Vincent Foster, and I'm like,
wait a minute, nobody's even talked to me. I haven't
been interviewed by you guys. I mean you were here
pulling me before the grand jury to do what I mean.
Usually you interview people, then you go before the grand jury.

(09:48):
You say, that's the way I hear it's done anyway,
So he comes over to lose me a subpoena. The
next half hour after he leaves, my girl and I
go out to take a walk, and right at that
moment I started getting harassed. People start following us around
on the street, people glaring at me as they walked

(10:09):
towards me. These really kind of stern kind of faces,
big guys. Guys, they're obviously military or FBI stringers or something,
just you know, muscle guys would crew cuts. And my
girlfriend at the time was saying to me, look at
look at these guys, look at you, you know. And
she wasn't somebody who would really pay attention to that
kind of stuff either. So anyway, so this happens, This

(10:32):
goes on. This arrassment went on for the whole evening,
anywhere I went, everywhere I went, they came to my house,
they knocked on my doors, they were outside in the
front of my building, just guys. I'm goings hanging her out.
And the next day I was supposed to appear for
the grand jury. So would I go to appear before
the grand During I get to meet mister Brett Kavanaugh.

(10:53):
And Brett Kavanaugh was there and I had no introduction
to him whatsoever. He and John Bates and John Bates
is and other federal judge though working on he was
actually the special judge. I can't think what title they
gave him now, but he was the secret court judge
for a while, allowing people to he was okaying all
the surveillance of American citizens, he was okay and all

(11:15):
that kind of stuff, giving subpoena, giving a the FBI
and any any law enforcement agency CI whoever may be
the right to phone taps and things like that. Anyway, So, uh,
I get into the grand jury and at Kavanaugh, young
guy I guess he was twenty nine. I was in.

(11:36):
I was just like thirty five myself forty maybe, and
uh he's a young guy. And the guy John Bates
at behind me, and they started asking me questions, and
I started, you know, offer away, saying I want to
know who who these people follow me around? Who's why
am I being arrasted? I mean, what am I being arrested?
Who's harassing me? So I'm asking all these questions, very irritated.

(12:00):
They say to me, you know, you're not here to
ask those questions. We were to ask you questions. So
the gallery had about twenty seven I think it's twenty
seven people that were the grand jurors twenty two twenty seven,
stuff like that. And he starts asking me questions, you
know allegedly, tell me about this alleged stuff. Talk about
what you saw in the park. Come about the car
you saw? Tell me about So I talked about the
brown car I saw, the older car. I saw it

(12:21):
with the contents, the briefcase and the suit jacket in
that car. I tell him about the guy the other
in the other car. I've been very suspicious. So they
really just tended. They asked me if I had media coverage,
was I writing a book? I get paid for the story.
They would tend to smeer me a little bit here
and there. So they asked me to step out of

(12:42):
the room so the jurors could ask questions. And I thought, well,
the jurors are going to ask questions, why can't I
stay in the room. But I go out leave the room.
About ten minutes later, they called me back in and
I sit down back in the in the seat, and
the Bret Kavanaugh gets a note handed to him by
John Bates, who John Bates is sitting directly behind me,

(13:05):
and Brett Kavanaugh opens up this piece of paper and says,
here's some here's some questions from the from the jurors,
from the from the people seated there. I said, Okay,
did the man at the park stare at you? I
said yes. Did the man at the park pass you
a note? I said no. Did the man in the
park pointing gun at you? I said no? And he

(13:27):
said did the man in the park touch your genitals?
I looked at this guy and I was like, what
Eve and the grand jurors were like, oh, you know,
they're like gasping for air, like it was just a
shocking question. And that was the end of my testimony.
I mean that then they said they were done. I said,
I was just like enraged. I mean I walked out
of that room and there was my lawyer, John Clark,

(13:48):
just out there. I said, can you imagine what this
guy asked me? He asked me if the guy in
the park touched my genitals? I said, how when the
world did somebody ask a question like that?

Speaker 1 (13:58):
So well, let me let me stop there second. Who
is John Bates? And you said John Bates handed him
the note? Who's John Bates?

Speaker 3 (14:05):
John? John Bates is now the secret judge. I was
telling you about it the subpoenas and all that kind
of stuff. So John Bates was a was a lawyer
too with ken Starr's office, with Bret Cavada. So John Bates, Yes,
that's who he was. So anyway, so I step out
to tell my lawyer right away. He's like, you've got
to be kidding me. Then I'll ask questions like that

(14:26):
in the grand jury. That's unbelievable. So he writes a
letter immediately ken Star's office, and so ken Starr dan
Ice that that question was asked. They said they went
through the grand jury transcript. There's nothing in the transcript.
But luckily we've we continue to do research on this
case in twenty five years now, but we go to

(14:48):
the archives and we get boxes of documents, and luckily
we found a document recently that that pretty much clarifies
that not only was and Star lying when he said
the question wasn't asked, but also Brett Kavanaugh denying he'd
asked such a question. We found a memo from Kavanaugh
that said, I didn't ask him if the guy touched

(15:10):
his genitals, but I did ask him a sexual question.
And my question that Brett Kavanaugh is what did you
ask me, Brett if it wasn't did the guy touch
my genital? So anyway, Brett knew there was going to
be a story written about that, and he went to
great lengths to get this reporter not to write about
the genitals. So what he actually did is he violated
grand jury secrecy rules by having somebody on his behalf

(15:33):
reach out to the press not to write the story
about the genitals. So now you're not supposed to talk
about anything. I could talk about anything I want because
I was in the grand jury, but the prosecutor anybody
sitting in there are sworn to secrecy. So Kavanaugh pretty
much lied. So what we did, and my story is
long and convoluted and it's detailed, and so my website

(15:57):
has my whole story on it, so I don't want
to go into the whole thing. But all the harassment,
and they also harassed unbelievably before the grand jury, but
after the grand jury, I mean fouled, and we had
our phones tapped, we had we had a guy come
into my apartment at by lawyer's office. They found sound
devices putting it up on where lights were. And yeah,

(16:20):
it's kind of a crazy thing. And I think that
what made me significant, and I'll go back to Brett
Kavanaugh a minute, but what made me significant the significance
of the case of Vince Foster's death is that I
was a witness who proved that Vince Foster did not
drive his car to that park and shoot himself. His
car was not in that park. And what we also

(16:42):
found at the archives, and this is at our website too.
And Brett Kavanaugh again, you can hear him on tape
being interviewed by Read Irvine, who's an old conservative guys
not passed on, but you can hear you can hear
Cavan on his own words saying, well, you know that
that brown card and notton solves a problem. Everybody saw
the same car, are and Read so everybody saw the
brown car says yeah, pretty much. Well not only that.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
I just I just listened to that reader of phone
conversation and Kavanaught, especially toward the end, is kind of giggling.
I kind of like, right, yeah, you know, yeah, well
that's what the report says, he you know, and then
he says, you're not taping me, are you.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
That's the best line of all. I hope people going
to listen to that. That is one of the most
telling tapes of Brett Kavanaugh being uncomfortable. Uh and very
and when they called me he's a smart man, I'm
sorry I spent time with this guy. He's not. He
wasn't all that smart. But anyway, so after the grand
jury and my lawyer complaining about treatment, now they start

(17:44):
bringing me to the o C office to interview me.
Now they want to get into this car thing. Because
I really was very adamant about what I saw that park,
and I wasn't going to change my mind no matter
what I know what I saw, So I probably met
with Brett. Jim comment. Jim Clement's a very well known
This is interesting too about the about the Foster death.

(18:05):
They had a Jim Clement was the child abduction sexual
abuse investigator for the FBI. He was the lead guy
in the Foster case, which I always found very strange.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
And today he does a podcast, he's a frequent guest
talking about serial killers and things like that.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah. Yeah, he was a profiler. Yeah, because he was
a profile for sexual predators. This is the other thing
that people people aren't aware of what he was doing
in the Foster case. I have no idea, but Anyways,
after meeting, I met with Brett several times. He was
very uneasy every time I met with him. There was
Jim Clement R Jeff Green, who was a retired FB
a retired DC homicide investigator. I met with these guys

(18:47):
several times. I went out to Fort Marcy Park with him.
I spent a lot of time with these guys. They
were trying to I don't know if they believe me.
I don't know. I don't know what their story was.
I mean that they spent so much time. I assume
they must have believed what I was saying because the
amount of time. It's not with the butter in the end,
I guess all they were trying to do is try

(19:08):
to fill every hole that they could find in my
story just so they could write the report to say
committed suicide. He wasn't murdered. But I can just tell
you Musters right now, this man did not shoot himself.
The gun that he had in his hand, the gun
that was found at the scene was not a gun
owned by the Foster family. There was no fingerprints on
the gun that Vince Foster was found with. There's no

(19:30):
fingerprints on the calday event was Vince Foster's card. There's
no identifiable fingerprints on the car anywhere, which I find
very able to start. You know, there's I don't know, know, it's.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Just yeah, we did a full two hours hit. We
did a full two hour detailed interview on this, which
even only still touches, you know, barely touches everything. I
interviewed a lot of people around you too. At that time.
I did a whole series of shows on the Mitz Foster.
So we go back to new archives. I'm going to
make a whole playlist on YouTube for the whole Bench
Forces thing. Let's take a little commercial break, okay, and

(20:04):
then we're gonna be back with more. Patrick Nolton a
super insider really, because what we're getting at here is
that Brett Cavanaugh worked for the Star Commission and he
basically was not basically he was in charge. He was
involved in the cover up of the Vince Foster death,
you know what I mean. And now he's somehow being

(20:25):
trotted out by these right wingers who hated the Clintons.
What's going on? We gotta figure this out. Yeah, because
it's a little too complicated. We'll be right back with
more of Patrick Nolton again. His book is as If
It Never Happened, which is his life story about growing
up what made him the man he is today. We'll
get into that. His website is FBI cover dash up

(20:48):
dot com again book signings. You can find him in Syracuse,
New York City, Palm Springs, and Tampa, Florida coming up
to keep an eye out for that. If you go
to his website, I'm sure it'll be on there. We'll
be right back with more of Patrick after these messages
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a n us h A. S Ubash Okay, Welcome back

(24:01):
to the Opperman Report. I'm your host, private investigator at Opperman.
We're here today with Patrick Knowlton, who was an insider
with an eyewitness to the Vince Foster case. His website
is FBI dash cover Up now FBI cover dash up
dot com and his book is as If It Never Happens,

(24:22):
a brand new book about the story of his life. Now, Patrick,
your first impression of Brett Cavanaugh. We've both met a
lot of lawyers and judges and something. Does he come
off like someone who's like an illegal scholar, like a
constitutional expert?

Speaker 3 (24:37):
You I mean, no, no, not at all. And actually
I was pretty shocked that he was. It was his
first case he ever prosecuted, whatever investigated, was the Vince
Foster case. You could tell he was very young. Barry
Green and I saw him over the years. I would
go to different events where he would be speaking at
Yale or something and I had to go, there's a

(24:57):
harass them. I went there to ask him questions with
my lawyer in a huge earlier of one of our researchers.
And he never really seemed like the brightest bulb in
the box to me, and as he matured over the years,
is fifty three year old man. Now he gained some experience, probably,
I mean he's sat on the Circuit Court now the

(25:18):
Appellate Court for twelve years. But you know, I don't know.
I would just say I'm very surprised he's in this
place to become a Supreme Court justice, and I would
quite frankly think it'd be a shame that happens. I'm
not an honest person. I can tell you if he
lied about me. So here's a couple of things that
people should know. First of all, he denied. He asked

(25:39):
me that genital's question. I would have absolutely no reason
whatsoever to make up a story like that. I was
very innocent through this whole thing. I would never have
walked out and made a story up to tell my lawyer.
My lawyer knew me well enough to know that I
wouldn't do that either. He denied, He asked that question.
That's an outright lie. He denied that he'd leaked grin

(26:00):
jury information. That's an outright lie. And there's other things
that he's done along the way. So you know, when
I was subpoenut to go before the Whitewater grand jury.
He was the one who signed my subpoena is signed
Brett Kavanaugh. Go to our website take a look the
whole Brett Cavanaugh page there by the way. You might
want to go take a look at it, because some

(26:20):
very good information there about him. But he's going to
sign my subpoena. Subpoenas for grand jury witnesses our secret.
Somehow it was leaked out through that office, and I
can only assume it was Brett. He was one in charge,
and I was going to appear before the grand jury
and then this arrassment started. He had to be complicit

(26:43):
in that some way. I mean, complacent in that in
some way anyway.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
But let me just make a point to your complaint
about that question about the genitals. This isn't something you're
just revealing today. You've been talking about this for twenty
thirty years, right, Oh.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Yeah, absolutely, yes, never gotten any It was never reported.
And that goes right along with the twenty page appendix
that was added to Star's report. Now, your listeners, not
the last time I talked, maybe not, but again, you
know this has never been covered either. We had an
appendix with twenty points that are twenty pages that laid

(27:20):
out every point that proved that Vince Foster did not
drive to that park and kill himself, and the three
judges who hired Ken Starr to do this investigation ordered
him over his nine page objection to attach this appendix,
which proves a cover up by the all see in
the FBI and those judges, and one of them, particularly

(27:42):
Judge Butzner, said if we don't attach this this information
to the report, we may be charged his conspirators and
in their future too. The judge wrote that we have
said our website of his own handwriting, and one of
the other judges, judged face, says, well, let's let Milton's
words speak for themselves. So the last twenty pages of

(28:03):
ten Stars reported the death of Vincent Foster counters every
every point they try to make that he killed himself.
So I mean, people should go take a look at that.
It's never been reported. And the only time I ever
get and he gets any legs when I talk about
it on the radio. I want to do radio shows
or a TV appearance or something. But yeah, but you know,

(28:24):
it's not a honest guy. I mean, I'm going to
say that right now, you know, they He're just not
an honest person.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Well, let me ask you this, and I.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Have to believe that these women aren't lying either questionable.
Maybe they could be questionable, but you know, I'm not
gonna say nothing happened to him, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Before we get to the women. Now there's a feeding frenzy,
right The media is going crazy. They're trying to get
anybody they'll talk toout some guy through ice. You know,
it's an ice incident.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
How come?

Speaker 1 (28:52):
How did I How am I the lucky guy that
got Patrick Nolton on my show? How come you're not
booked twenty four to seven?

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Well? I know so. So my lawyer is still my lawyer,
John Clark, great guy, you're a great civil rights lawyer.
There you go. He put together a letter on my behalf.
He wrote it, make sure the thing was legally sound
and everything like that, and it was distributed to every
member of the committee. And John offered me up to

(29:22):
come and testify about my experience with Brett Cavenaugh and
is lying. The only person who brought something up about
grand jury secrecy and it was about me was was
Diane Feinstein. She asked him if he yeah, She asked
him if something about it. I wasn't in town to
see a TV, so I don't know exactly what was asked,

(29:43):
but she did ask him something about if he violated
grand jury secrecy rules. It was based on the letter
that my attorney sent and he said no, he never had.
But that's that's not way lie he did. I mean,
can we can prove it? We have, we have papers
that can prove it, but you know we we offered.
And then the Democrats from the from the committee, I

(30:04):
can't think of his name who it was, So whoever
was the head of the Democratic committee for these hearings,
contacted the John Clark, my lawyer, and asked him where's
the rest of the pages. John says, well, they're at
the archives or they got in here, but they are
apparently wanted to get them directed from the archives and
make sure they want falsified or something. But I'll tell

(30:25):
you something, you just can't go to the archives and
find the stuff that we found. You have to be
a scholar on the Vince Foster case. You have to
have been in those archives many times. You know what
boxes they have, you've gone through. We photocopied everything or
photographed everything we took from the archives because we stopped
taking copies, we started photographing things. Was so much faster
and much more efficient. And so I mean those for

(30:47):
them to go to the archives and try to find
the documents that we had already and they didn't want
to take them from us, which I thought was blooney,
because they all have as a slug that they give you.
They call it a slug it said, they give you
at the archives and you photograph something, you have to
have this slug that proves this document came from the archives.
You can't get it anywhere else, separate the archives. But
apparently the Democrats didn't want to take our papers, and

(31:10):
we want to trust us on that, and the Republican
has never asked us a word. So there you go.
Never said bring this guy in, because I would have
went in, And may think I think it's relevant that
that I can prove, we can prove that that Kevin
Hall lies and he lied as a young guy. I'm
I'm sure he's not lying today. I'm sure he is
lying today.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Have you contacted the FBI because now they're doing this
further background check. If you're tried and you're bothered.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
No, no, no, but I'll say you something's really interesting.
So I tried to get my FBI report because they
surveilled me, they followed me, and I was told my
lawyer has the letter that I cannot get my FBI
file released and from fifty years from the day it
was put in the archives, I cannot see my own

(31:58):
FBI file. Nobody can. So I have another uh, twenty
two years so I can get a look at it.
And you know why, you know why that is because
they illegally surveilled me, They wiretapped my you know, they
did all these things, I think illegally.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
And so now yeah, so so now the media won't
touch this story now because it would bring up the
whole Vince Foster story.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Right exactly. They don't, they don't. Nobody wants to go
near that. And you know, and I think I think
that both sides of the eye always back then, you know,
most of the people, no, twenty five years now, so
some of those people are dead, are retired. But I
mean it was, it was pretty well known and amongst
both parties. Don't get involved in that because I think,
you know, my theory on the Foster death was he

(32:47):
was not a very good guy. He may have been
a spy. He may have been working for the Israelis.
There was a software program that that was that was
available at the time. He was representing the company through
the Rose Law firm, and they believe he may have
stole the one of the of the software programs and

(33:08):
sold it to Israel. The software program was simply this.
It was it was tracking bank accounts in Switzerland. It
was a Swiss bank account app that they had. They
were able to see who was coming and going in
and out of these banks, Americans, foreigners, what money was
going where. And the theory is that, you know, the

(33:30):
best one we come up with anyway, is that he
probably stole that software from the company Systematics sold it
to Israel, and uh that maybe why he was killed
in the end, because he was kind of I guess
you'd call him a spy in some ways, you know,
counterintelligence or something. But a way, we do believe he

(33:52):
is probably murdered by c I, A w C I
A hit. Can't prove any of that stuff, unfortunately, but
that's that's ptty much. Well, after all these years of
twenty three years of looking into this guy's death, I
mean I think there's any better experts at it than myself,
Uturely and John Clark, my attorney.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Right, Like, we said, all the f MEAs you could
find on an FBI cover dash up dot com, and
we did a long two hour show about that too
is well, very detailed. As much as you can get
into in two hours, too is a guy's a lifetime. Now,
you said you've had other interactions with Brett Kavanaugh. Afterwards
you would go and confront him at speaking engagements and stuff.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Right, right, we go to different speaking engagements if he
was one of the lead speakers, were on a panel,
and we'd ask questions and because we want what our
goal was was to get somebody to say, Okay, we
didn't do a very we didn't do a very good
investigation in the Foster case. And what we've learned over

(34:53):
the years too is you know, this goes to the
Brett Kavanaugh today. You know the FBI. We were told
the FBI is never going to embarrass the colleagues. So
the first investigation done by Robert Fisk was really a
whitewashed investigation. And then they have ken start bringing FBI

(35:14):
agents happens to be the same FBI agents did the
first investigation, and so they're not going to find anything new. Now.
The same thing's happening with Britt Kavanaugh right now. He's
these people that are being interviewed by the FBI, but
it's not even been vetted for. I guess that's the
right would to use by the FBI. Investigated by them
two times already, once for his job at the Appella

(35:37):
Court and now all this time for the Supreme Court.
Now the same FBI agents are the same agencies coming
back in to investigat him. You think they're going to
find something new. They're going to say, oh, my our
colleagues missed that. No, that's not how the FBI works.
They do not embarrass the colleagues. They don't. And so
if they come up with anything, I'll be shocked. I mean,
it's the FBI of ends up saying that Brett's guilty

(36:01):
or whatever. I'll be totally shocked.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Even though it does seem that even like every every
day we wake up in another witness seems to pop. Sorry,
even though like every day we wake up and it
seems like another woman's come forward or there's another person
that the media is finding.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Yeah, right, you know, it's interesting too. I know your
listeners know this, But Brett Kavanaugh wrote the Monica, that
salacious report on the Monica Winsky. I don't know if
anybody's ever if you've ever seen that, he'd be shocked.
It's like it's like a porn or a book or something.
It's very detailed. And those one of Brett's Those one
of Brett's writings too, which I thought was interesting. He

(36:39):
seems to have this tension for descriptive sexual activity or something.
I don't know what it is, but uh, he did
write that Monica a Winsky report.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Well yeah, well listen if his best friend for a
really long time part of his life was this guy,
uh Mark Judge. Yeah, there's no everyone agrees by judging
his behavior, right right.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Yeah. So you know, like I said, with these women too,
I would never say ever that nothing happened to them.
Of course something happened to them. The problem with I
think doctor Ford is she has very bad memory is
which is not good. And she has some connections in
her family which were a little surprising and I don't know,

(37:28):
I don't know what to think of how that can
impact any but this is surprising that her family members
or CIA or something like that.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yeah, it seems to be true. Yeah, no one's denying it,
but then again, no one in the mainstream is bringing
it up.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Yeah. I wonder what significant second.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Have this This Avanati witness too. You know, she's got
several security clearances and Avenati is suing my client right now.
So I'm sort of involved in that and avan is. Yeah,
I was because I'm involved with Keith Davidson and Gena
Rodriguez all the people behind Stormy Daniels and stuff, and

(38:08):
it's been my whole Yeah. So Alvinatti is not a
total flake where he's just going to bring in a
fake witness and swear out an aff of david information
that he knows is false. He's he is a legitimate Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Oh I didn't have that take on him actually, because
he was so what's your thing? Was just real quick,
I don't know, think about Stormy Daniels and here what's this?

Speaker 1 (38:34):
What this is? Uhr? Her first attorney was Keith Davidson
and her first agent was Gina Rodriguez. Gena Rodriguez was
my agent and I've worked for Keith Davison. He's been
my client for years on cases like the Charlie Sheen
case and uh and well all that stuff, you know,
because he does all those kind of Hollywood kind of
right cases. So and Alvanada came in and he was

(38:57):
representing Stormy Daniels now and he sued Keith David is
insane that he miss misrepresented the Stormy Daniels, which is
totally false. I know these people. But the thing is
is though that Alvinaty is a serious legit lawyer. He's
not some flaky guy and he's not gonna be.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
The media play him up as a as a do
fish or something that I every time, every time I
see something about him, it's like, oh, this guy can't
be for real.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
It would just imagine they're saying that he can't be
for real because he represents the ex girlfriend of the
President of the United States, Stormy you know, yeah, she
may be involved in pornography, the pornography business. But there
are a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Yeahble so I didn't not to hear about that, people
that you know.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah, it's a scary small world.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
You know. How is yours? How is your newsletter going?
What's how's your newsletter?

Speaker 1 (40:06):
The it's not actually a newsletter. What it is. It's
a members section on the website where people there's exclusive
interviews on there, and there's also kinds of court documents too.
We have all the the the lawsuits, the Trump University loss,
the documents on there, all kinds of stuff on Jeffrey Epstein,
which connects to this too as well, because his attorney

(40:27):
was Yeah, it was a Ken Start again, this bizarre connection.
Small world, like you say, uh.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Yeah, yeah, I'm not Ken Star, Okay, we were. I
was speaking in Boston and so was he, and there
was kind of a strange thing. I was in the
lobby of the hotel. This is after this is this
is ten years ago now, but long after he was
out of the Independent Office of Business, and I saw
him come in this cowboy hats, cowboy boost. I was like,

(41:00):
and that's Ken Start. And I was at the front
desk and I walk away. I go to my room
and I put some stuff in my room and I
came out and now he is getting into the room
next door to me. I was just like, Oh, this
can't be for real. He's sleeping next door to me.
Can start. So I didn't bother him, and you know,
I waited for breakfast and The next morning, we were

(41:20):
at the private We're being put up by the Boston University,
so they put some the you know, eat breakfast privately upstairs,
and there was a hee and I in the in
the breakfast room and I said, mister Starr, do you
remember do you remember me? And he looks at me,
he said no. I tond him. I said, Patrick Milton,
and honestly got his face just dropped like that was

(41:41):
really a pain in that guy's neck. I'm pretty sure
of it. Uh. And he said, oh, yes, you never
know who you're gonna run into. It's really true. I
was told that once you never know who you're going
to run into it. I said, well, I'm gonna do
you a favor, so I'm going to pray for you
because you lied, You lied about me, you lied about
everything in Foster. So I'm going to pray for you

(42:01):
that you go to have it in some way, you
get to have it. You're such a good Christian man.
I walked out of the room. They had my picture
take it first with him before I whatever. Look, yeah,
that's how the internet, the picture of me and Ken
start together. In Boston.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
It is a small world. There's no doubt about that.
But let me ask you this now, there can be
no doubt that the Kent Star investigation was a cover
up of the Foster murder. Like you say that Brett
Kavanaugh was involved in this cover up. Why is it
that these right wingers, these right these q andon conspiracy groups,
that these bizarre people who would agree with you about

(42:40):
Vince Foster would then be supporting the guy who was
part of the cover up. How does that work?

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Like I can always say that there's only probably one
first two people on that panel Feinstein don out miss
Gramble was because a few of them were there. I
think they're so removed from the whole Foster thing that
because again everybody was told not to talk about it,
though they don't even bring it up in the hearings
too much. I think they brought up once in the
hearings mentioned that he was on that the investigator, But

(43:11):
everybody stay steers clear of that. They just steer clear
of it. Like I said, both aisles know, both sides
of the of the Chamber knows what why Vince Foster
was killed. And I'm pretty sure it's pretty sure it's
pretty well known. And know people are told not to
go near it, don't go near it, don't write about it,
don't report it thoughn't you know? And Brett was part

(43:33):
of that. Brett's part of the large cover up. And
again it goes to his If they're talking about if
this man is honest or not, I'm going to say again,
he lied about my grand jury appearance. I'm one hundred
percent share that he's the one who leaked that I
was going to be or maybe had been harassed. I
don't know what kind of power he had, but he

(43:55):
certainly was the one who knew I was being subpoened
the next day to go before the grand jury, and
I was harassed. Denied having any any part of that.
I asked him right in the grand jury. Were part
of this? He denied that, And of course he denied that.
He asked me that question in the grand jury. And
we have notes now, handwritten notes from Hickman Ewing, who
is kind of star as assistant, talking about, you know, Brett,

(44:18):
want to get this ten of those things. Don't have
it put in the paper, let's get rid of it.
So yeah, interesting stuff. So he's not a very forthcoming,
honest person. I mean, and even even when we went
to confront him in these in these events that he
was at one time he said to me, please, please,
please don't do this. My mom and dad are here.
I was like, what you're You're speaking with a group

(44:39):
of lawyers and your parents are the honest you asked me,
don't ask you embarrassing questions because your parents are here.
I mean, he is an only child, I guess, but
I do think he has a little flaws. And I think,
you know, you know, I said this, and my wife's
my wife's a very liberal woman too, and she she

(45:02):
thinks it's uh, it's it's a shame that these women
have to go through what are going through, the get
something off their mind after chest things that they've traumatized them,
and then uh, you know, to be attacked on the
other side of it too for coming forward and and
uh yeah, I just uh, I just think that.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
What do you make of the whole that's gonna come
out of it?

Speaker 3 (45:25):
I think he's just gonna be I think he's gonna
slide in.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
I think that's it sounds like he knows where the
bodies are buried, literally, you know. Now, what do you
make of his tantrum and his mouth down that if
have you seen that in his personality before the crying,
they lose you. I just think we just lost our
buddy here. Let me pull them back up. I hate
when this happens. Man. We had trouble at break establishing

(45:49):
this call, and I got the weirdest dial tell when
I was first trying to catch it. Patrick Knowlton. The
book is as if it never happened, and his website
is FBI cover dash up dot com. I hope you
don't lose them altogether because he is vacationing down there
in Mexico and he just tried to quote me. You

(46:16):
can have a book signing in Syracuse, New York, Palm Springs,
and Tampa. Hopefully be call him back in a second. Wow,
let me try it one more time. I'll get him.
Never give up. That's what we say here at the

(46:37):
offer report. Hey, don't forget to our remember section until
you're sixty five bucks. I'll give you thirteen months for
sixty five bucks. Give a little discount there. Hey, once again,
his book is as if it never happened. I have

(47:00):
to wait for him to call me. I did want
to ask him, like I said, about his book as
if it never happened, and also to what he thought
about Brett Kavanaugh's Wow, here we go, Hi, Patrick, how
were you are you there?

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Yeah? Yes, my phone, my phone dropped out. I'm sorry
about that.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
That's not your fault. I tell you, it's been weird
all morning. Now. Now, the question I was asking you though,
when the call dropped was what do you make of
his tantrum, his crying, the drinking the water, his temperament.
What did you make of that?

Speaker 3 (47:40):
Well that, you know, people who spending a lot of
it's sometimes guilty. You know. I thought the end of
the defense like that was really a very bizarre behavior.
So somebody of his rank and file of the second
highest court in the land. You said, I have more
composure than that, And yeah, that whole bit. It's you know,

(48:02):
he claims to be this, this great Catholic this I'm
Catholic too, But he claims to be this great person
who's praised with his daughters every night. And I questioned,
I questioned people who come forward and speak that loudly
about things like that. I questioned the character. It's not
necessary for anybody to know that. I mean, that's personal,
private family stuff, I think, And so I think it's

(48:25):
his whole behavioral to me and was very desire to me.
And I thought, you know again, my mother say, well,
those are guilty spreaming the loudest.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Now I'm watching right now on a CNN they got
a picture of Kavanaugh and showing a clip of him
client and screaming, and I think I had his wife
in the background. And have you ever met her before,
because she had the look on her face as Kashane
that's not.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
I did me there batually before she was actually married
to dot. I was that I was at the George
Bush White House with some people. I was invited with
a group of people and went to meet the president
and he's the fourth president. I got to meet he.
That was pretty incredible. And it was Brett's future wife

(49:09):
that was his right hand person as she come out
and introduced herself to us. And that's Monie Monnie interaction.
Whether she was a little bit under that and that
she it was today. But yeah, I think that you know,
it's gonna be tough being a wife and they hearing
these things that she You know, I always think about
these sexual predators too that get caught and doing these

(49:31):
bizarre things. Yeah, I mean somebody must know they like
a girlfriend or next gay friend, must ever hear that
these behaviors exist in people. I mean, like Brett. I
can believe he's a bully. I can believe he is
a mean drunk, and I can believe that he just
seems like that kind of person. I do believe he's
pretty spoiled. His father's multi millionaire, and his mother judge

(49:53):
and the only child, and grew up in the very
affluent neighborhood and pretty much got everything needed. So I mean, yeah,
he probably had quite a chip on the show. They'd
I guess, throwing up. And well, people do come to
those defense, people who know him better than I do.
I know his later in his profession, but I just

(50:14):
think he'd come to his defense. You know, these women
with some high school assigned the letters, so I here's
nothing but a gentleman and this and that.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
But yeah, but if you look at their Twitter accounts,
some of these women knew about these allegations way back
in July and they were talking about it behind the scenes.
And that's some of these women who signed that letter.
So and there's even some talk to and SE had
a report yesterday about how there's texts how he was
contacting some of these women trying to get them to
coment on right statements for them. So he knew before

(50:41):
all this became public, these allegations became public and he
was in the background talking to these people. Yeah, Patrick,
we only got about ten minutes left. Do you want
to tell us about your book as if it never happened.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
Yeah. So I grew up like most people in the
United States, having a dysfunctional family. I know, I don't
know anybody had the perfect life. I think some of
the children this day and age probably a better life
than that you and I had growing up. I hope
TESTI caase anyway, But his book is based on my

(51:15):
up bringing. Me in a small town of Warners, New York,
outside of Syracuse. It was a farm community, and I
write about the things that happened to me, and some
of the things that did happen were at later I
kind of hilarious, Like one of the one of the
bullies in my town. We had several bullies around. He

(51:36):
used to hang me over the railroad bridge by my
ankles and as trains are passed into the bridge. So
I mean there's a lot of terrifying things like that
that that took place in the rural community. You hadn't
no where to go in town. There's nobody to towe.
Couldn't tell your parentcy he wanted us to be in
the bridge. You couldn't, you know, you couldn't. So all
these traumatic things that happen. So I write about things
like that that happened, and it tells the history of

(51:58):
the time during the Cold War too. So it's you know,
I don't know how old you are, but we had
this thing when I was in elementary schools that the
duck and cover, you know, ready for in Syracuse, New York.
We were like number ten on the list to be
bombed by the the Russians during the Cold War because
of all the manufacturing was there. So in school we
had to dive under the dive under our depth and

(52:20):
cover our heads and you know, as a practice for
a bomb coming up the bomb bills that took place.
So it's things like that in the trauma that caused me.
And then you know, I was in I was in
a home for a while. My mother was very ill
my whole life, so she they put us in a
foster home and that was very traumatic and very abusive.
So it's all stories about that. Everybody, everybody who's really

(52:43):
suppose given me great reviews and stewing well and Kindle
right now and hard copies moving slower, but kindall seems
to be where everybody goes to get their books. So
they had the three thousand mark on the Kindle yesterday,
ye for Tuna for five days now.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
So well, you definitely have you have the gift of
a storyteller, for sure. You can definitely present the story well.
And like you said, it's a very well received as
if it never happened. You can find it also too
in the Opperman Report bookstore. And you were saying that
this growing up like that is what gave you the
courage and I guess kind of the craziness to to
go up against the federal government, the FBI.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
You know, yeah, because I was, I was always searching
for the truth, and you'll see this book, I was.
I had to build courage to escape a lot of
these things that that I was going to and I
was terrified by the bombs dropping and my mother being
home and that's sick, and you know, I was fatherless.
And it's a pretty good read. So we love memoiris

(53:44):
has give me the book for you. Good story. It's
a good barter history story too. Actually talks about hoboes
in the town right near the railroad track. So hobos
coming off the trains and there's a whole different time
of life, you know, a whole different time of life. Well,
thanks you having me on ED. I appreciate it very much.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Now, Patrick, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
If anything else comes up about that, I'll come back on.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
I was just gonna say that if anything comes up,
give me a call, put you right back on the ear.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Yeah, well I will let you know. Uh gets the
opportunity to call before the committee. I doubt it, but
you never know. My lawyer works on it every day.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Patrick Milton, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Thanks you have a good time. Can I okay?

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Then we had Patrick Nolton. The book is as if
it never happened. You could find it on Amazon, like
I said, it will be up on the Opperman Report bookstore.
His website is FBI cover dash up dot com. Now
we did two hours of Patrick Nelton about his whole
story about uh uh Vince Foster, the Star investigation, the
cover up. We spent a good solid sober, lengthy, detailed interview.

(54:57):
He was just saying off, there was the best one
anybody ever did with them. So we covered that in depth.
I'm going to place in the members section this recording
of Brett Kavana talking to read Irvin where he's giggling
about yeah, well you know, yeah the report and the stuff.

(55:18):
Yeah yeah, well that's what the reports said. Well we
gotta sick by the report, you know. And then he
says at the end, you're not recording, all right, okay,
cause you know you get this. This is these the
conversations you have people and criminal cases and stuff like that,
back and forth and one signed you know, you know,
you guys guilty, you know, well yeah you know, or
you're not recording. Okay, you know what I mean. So

(55:41):
and this, you know, he fell for that. This guy's
no Supreme Court judge on any level. But the whole
thing is just so I've been holding back on doing
a commentary on this thing. I tried to do it
Friday night, but I told you, I had that long
day with that client who was just a basket case.
I'm watching somebody die right before my eyes of drug

(56:03):
addiction and just spiraling out of control, you know. And
I had to go bailer out of jail and take
it down through the pretrental in the supervision, so I
couldn't do my commentary Friday night after dealing with all
this Brett Kevanarugh stuff. And I have a lot to
say about this because I know a lot who knows
I did six thousand pre employment screenings a year with

(56:24):
my company. Okay, that's we did it for ups. That's
what the business I was in. I know, pre employment investigations.
This is my wheelhouse. Okay. I got a lot to
tell you about that. I know some of the people involved,
we're involved with Avinati personally. I could talk to you
about that, but I've been holding back because there's just

(56:46):
something that's not right that I'm not following the narrative here,
and I don't even have it on the tip of
my tongue right now. What I want to say, the
CIA connections to Ford are concerning the fact that no
one's taking av Natti's client seriously when she has all
these these security clearances. She's pretty much the only one

(57:08):
out of all these people who signed an out for David.
She's willing to take a polygraph. Avnatti. They well, they
call him the pornal porn stars lawyer. He is a
serious attorney. He's not I think he's wrong about the
certain things that we're involved in with him. But I
think he's incorrect. Okay. I can understand him by why
he thinks he has a legal basis to make a

(57:28):
lossuit because you know there's enough there to try it.
You know, serious minds can can have that opinion, sober minds.
But to not just dismiss him, it's oh ho ho,
pupa poo. We don't want to hear about these uh
gang rapes and there's this drunk of behavior and dosing women,
you know, and spiking punch. We don't want to hear

(57:49):
about that because Abnati, you're not in the club. Okay,
we're willing to talk about these other things. Our friend
here who has brought up in a CIA family, we're
will to have her case heard, but not yours. You're
not in the club. You're not coming in. I have
an idea you're not allowed in. You and you're the
dirty people. Okay, So I hope I'm making myself clear here. Okay.

(58:18):
I believe Kavanar is capable all the things he's been
accused of, by looking at his demeanor, by looking at
his wife's face of shame, staring at him behind him.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
His weak.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Responses, his hysterical responses. But I believe that we don't
know everything that's going on here. I believe that this
process has been infiltrated. Okay, And from my own personal
experiences another cases like the Sarah Palin case and other
things I've been involved in the cases against Donald Trump,
that uh, there's there's there's a hand here that's manipulating things.

(59:00):
So and at Cavanaught we know is an insider who
was involved in the Trump involved in the Vince Foster
cover up. So there's a lot more here going on
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