Pearse Redmond Reports on Epstein & Roger Stone

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(01:22):
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Speaker 1 (01:31):
Pierce you there, I'm here, Ed, glad to be talking
to you again. Thanks for having me back on.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Thank you so much. And me and Pierce just did
a show together on Chuck a Chilly just the other day,
and there was so much going on, it was kind
of rushed, you know, we didn't get out of a
lot of stuff. So what have you been at? First?
Tell people about yourself. Who's Pierce Redmond?

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Sure? So, I'm I'm the host of Porkins Policy Radio,
which is also on American Freedom Radio on Tuesdays from
three three ton and and then I'm I'm on all
sorts of stations ED that you like, I'm awake, and

(02:09):
I'm on your Spreeaker channel. I know a lot of
a lot of my listeners actually listen through your Spreaker
through your iTunes as well. So thank you, Ed, And
uh yeah, I do. I do the radio show weekly,
I do a whole bunch of other shows and stuff,
you know, with Tom Secker, we do a thing, lots
of stuff. And I'm also now I'm a regular on

(02:31):
Chuck Ocelly's Tuesday night show in the second hour from
nine to ten, so you can. I'm on there the
first third and fourth Tuesday of every month. And yeah,
I don't know. We're working on some projects and stuff
like that, but I think your listeners know who I am.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Oh, yeah, well that's the first third and what.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
So the first third and fourth Tuesday of every month,
I am on Chuck O'chilly's on the OCHELLI Effect Tuesdays
from nine to ten.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
And I Leapier. What about Leapier? I don't know, we
haven't I haven't heard that iet Okay, I had to
worry about it now. And what about like February, it
was only twenty nine days in a month. What do
you just take the month of off? What do you
do that?

Speaker 1 (03:17):
I don't know. I gotta talk to Chuck buy out?

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Okay. Great, you're very very busy man. And you're gonna
be doing Tuesdays because you do. You do your live
show Tuesday morning, right, and then you're gonna do another
show Tuesday night. HU on Tuesdays.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, So I record on Tuesday from yeah, three to
five pm, and then I have a little bit of
a break, and I make dinner, and then I usually
watch you know, all the kind of crappy news because
Chuck and I usually do a lot of current events,
h you know, politics and foreign policy, geopolitics stuff. Yeah,

(03:49):
and then I basically like scarf down my dinner and
then usually usually have a beer and then yeah, I
do Chuck Show from nine to ten, and then you know,
usually of course, you know, you chit chat at your words,
So Tuesday is kind of a long day for me.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
So what you're saying that after the show's over, you
and Chuck ch chat over the phone.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, all right, see.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, that's that's a long day. That's a long day
because you work on Tuesdays too, right now.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
No, the Tuesday is my is is one of my
days off. But uh, you know, I mean I also
see I see I see my therapist on Tuesday as well,
So you know, I go into the city. I talked
to him in in the you know, early afternoon. Then
I run home. I have like about an hour I
do my show, and then I have a little bit
of a break, and then I do Chuck Show.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
You know, back when I lived in New York at
different times in my life. I see a therapist too,
you know, but let me tell you something, and the
rest of the country, you gotta be careful with these
therapists that they're there. They they're not professional and they just.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Actually, I mean, I used to despise therapy, particularly like psychiatry,
which is a big scam. But you know, I actually
see I a Geshtalt therapist, which sounds a little kind
of new agey, hippie dippy, what is amazing?

Speaker 3 (05:07):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Gestalt? It's like a type of experimental therapy, I guess,
but it's sort of I wish I knew the like
kind of the the full sort of terminology for it.
But essentially gestalt means likes the yeah, they bless you,

(05:29):
and what's the It's sort of like the sum of
all things making something whole. So his alt is very
much about like all aspects of your life on how
everything is sort of interconnected within yourself and what's going on.
And then they do they do do some kind of
more experimental types of there's like a big thing is
a chair work where you will talk. You will if

(05:53):
you have like a polarity in your life, you know,
like the saying, you know, I don't know the peers
that loves to goof off and party and drink all
the time and blow off work, and that's becoming like
a difficult for me. You basically, then what you'll do
is you'll put a chair in front of you, and
you will visualize this personality, this person and you'll actually

(06:17):
have a conversation back and forth, and then you'll switch chairs,
and then you'll you'll embody the the other sort of
aspect of your own personality. I've also done it with
like an ex girlfriend. I did chair work, you know,
where I spoke to her in the chair and then
I switch. So I know that this is like way
off topic from what we were probably gonna be talking about.

(06:38):
But no, I'm a big proponent of gestal therapy and
I love the guy I see. So if anyone is
you know, out there in New York is interested in
in gesital therapy, let me know.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
I remember one time I was actually seeing a therapist,
doctor Dan Baker from Canyan Ranch in Tucson, and I
had a bad breakup and he told me, well, write
a letter, just write down everything you want to say
to her, you know, And I take the letter and
wrap it around a rock and throw it as far
as you can.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Throw it through a window.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
I don't I wrote this letter like twenty page and
I carried this letter around with me for a year.
I think it made things worse. But anyway, he was, no.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
I'll say it sounds and the cheer work sounds really
kind of out there, and at first I was kind
of like, oh my god, really, but it's it's crazy
how effective it is in sort of like actually confronting
issues and confronting people, and and also when you switch
to and you become the other aspect or person speaking

(07:43):
back to yourself, and it's crazy too. I mean like
the you know, all of a sudden, the your your
posture changes, you know, the lighting in the room seems different,
and you know, it's very it's very holistic. So uh
uh yeah, I'm I'm I'm a big proponent of gestalt therapy.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Okay, I might have to look that up because I'm
intent thing that's going to improve my life and my
well being and stuff. But you know me, I'm doing
all these kind of fasting and things, and I think
I think you I think I would too.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah, well, we'll set you up, you can come out
you come out here for New York for a free consultation.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Oh there you go. Okay, we pay all my expenses
and then you know, travel fee.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah, and then we'll go out drinking and.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Well, you know what you know, But what about quit
drinking though? You know, don't you think that would assist you?
You know, have you gone stretches, would clang yourself in
that drink?

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well yeah, oh definitely believe me.
I think after this month it's going to be a
long one.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
What about if you have a travel like vegan or vegetarianism.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
I haven't done that, although i've i've because you're always
talking about it, and I guess I never expected you
to go full vegan. All right, I mean you're you're basically.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Right, well basically nothing. Let me tell you. The idea
of drinking, of eating a piece of cheese or drinking
milk is so disgusting to me. Now, just the thought
of it. This this stuff that comes out of this cow,
and I'm gonna put that in my mouth. You out
of here. It's like sucking a guy's dick. I wouldn't
even consider it. It's the same kind you know, like,
are you kidding me? What it's and the and the

(09:14):
smell of meat or poor animal flush, I can't even
consider it. So it's a new phase in my life
because I've been vegetarian before, but never to this where
this kind of emotional where I just wasn't even consider
it touching it, you.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Know, I just I don't think I can say no
to cheese.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
You'll beat them. It's I couldn't say no to cheese either.
But the thing is, it's the idea when you when
it's in your head where you know where it comes from,
you just can't do it. It's just like you can
snot you know, even though my taste good, you just
can't do it. You know. That's fascinating. But it's a
new new phase in my life. So we'll see where
it goes.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Well. So the big thing I'm trying to quit is cigarettes.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Oh my god, yeah, you gotta do that. That's crazy. Now,
just the expense, the expense alone of a cigarettes help me.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
It's how much your cigarettes out in Like in Vegas.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
It's like seven fifty for a packet and they got
these pyramids. Oh no, yeah, it's insanely expensive.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Never quit They're like, it's like fourteen dollars here.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Oh I see that. But yeah, I'm to my pyramids,
you know Pyramid you know do they have that there?

Speaker 1 (10:15):
The brand?

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Oh h no, I mean I'm talking about like, what's
a pack of Marlborough Reds.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
I don't I don't see anybody smoking nose. Probably fourteen bucks,
like you said, you know, because we have these also
to these a Native American, uh, you know where the
taxes or lesson stuff we can get it. But yeah,
it's a fortune, man. I tell you know. I used
to smoke cigars back in New York, and even when
I first moved down here, for a few years, I
was spending six hundred dollars a month on cigars. Geez,

(10:45):
that's like a house payment, you know.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, that looks like my rent.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, God, bless you. I know it's insane. And I
was sold. And I never understood why they were so
happy to see me at the cigars start. You know,
they loved it. I thought I had a great personality.
So now you've been working on some stuff lately, and
usually you know, I tell you I'm always been into
the Epstein case. And we were talking about the other day,

(11:10):
even before before Epstein had a Wikipedia page. I found
this magazine. I was in a waiting room one time
and I read this story about this billionaire that was
having these teenage girls come over and give them massages,
and and I, you know, I looked around for it,
you know, and there was never anything about it until

(11:31):
years later. We started talking about it, and now everybody
talks about it. They're an expert. But I kind of
backed away from it because I know Pearce is handling this,
you know, and he's really really on top of this.
So I just kind of check in with you and
see what you got caught up. Even though in the
future something's gonna come out. I'm gonna tell you guys
all about you gonna flip your wigs. But let me

(11:51):
ask you a question. Now, what is going on now?
You came up some new stuff with Roger Stone and
Jeffrey Epstein. What do you got?

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, So, so I I guess to just kind of
clarify the full story. Obviously, people will know who Roger
Stone is, and they'll know that he, you know, he's
just the Clinton's war on women and he's been a
you know, he was a supposed crusader for the Clinton's

(12:20):
rape victims and sexual assault victims and whatnot, and he
in I believe it's in the war on the Clinton's
Warren Women. There is some you know, he mentions Jeffrey Epstein,
And I believe there is a slight mention of Trump's
connection to Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Hey, can I stop at it for a second. You know,
you know, you know Stone didn't write that book. You
know that was written by Saint John Hunt.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Oh I thought that was No, isn't that the isn't
it a different one?

Speaker 3 (12:48):
No, it's ghost I thought I thought it.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Was Robert Morrow wrote it. The Clinton's Warren Women.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
It's ghost ghosts written. It was ghost written by Saint
John Hunt, and I guess Robert Moore. But the Stone
doesn't write those books.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Oh, I mean, it wouldn't surprise me. I don't. There's
no way he actually spends his time writing. Yeah, you know,
I mean, how could he be on you know, you
would be able to go on Info Wars and you know,
plotting against everybody if he was actually writing these books.
But anyway, he is. You know, he supposedly wrote this book,
and I believe he he briefly sort of mentions that

(13:23):
Trump and Epstein had had a connection, but he never
really made it into a big deal. And he actually,
before he was banned from Twitter, blocked me on Twitter
after we got into a sort of a back and
forth where I, you know, it's just sort of I
don't know, complaining, I guess about his sort of defense
of Trump in light of the sort of deep connections

(13:45):
between Trump and Epstein.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
You know, wait wit my time. At the time, Robert
Morrow thought that Trump was innocent. He didn't think that
Trump was a He said, Trump likes large breasted adult women,
just like I do. And then after he had bawling
out with Trump and Stone, now he's convinced that, Yeah,
he's definitely changed his too.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Big time. Yeah. Well, and I think that's anybody actually
looks at this seriously with uh, you know, just the
slightest bit of love logic, we'll see that. I mean,
you know, their their relationship is very complex and very long. Uh,
and it's a lot deeper than we ever thought. And

(14:30):
I've always been rather suspicious of Roger Stone's association with
in regards to the Epstein stuff. Again, they're both down
in Florida, they presumably ran around in the same circles.
You know, Trump and Stone are as close as they
say they are, then certainly Stone knew of Jeffrey Epstein,

(14:54):
might have even hung out with them at mar A
Lago places like that. So I've always been a bit
kind of curious about this. And then lo and behold,
I was going through on Pacer all of the various
lawsuits that Jeffrey Epstein has been a part of, and

(15:14):
some of these, you know, dating back to early nineties.
These are sealed, and there are some fairly newer ones
and some that I had never heard of. And one
of them, it wasn't an full Epstein wasn't involved directly
in this lawsuit. But there's a lawsuit against Scott Rothstein.

(15:34):
Excuse me. And Rostein is a now disgraced Florida lawyer
in Fort Lauderdale. Huge, you know, he was one of
the guys in Florida real mover and shaker, and he's
now serving fifty years for a Ponzi scheme he was
involved in. That was a one point two billion dollar
ponzi scheme, so one of the largest in American history

(15:56):
and certainly the largest in Florida's history and a part
of this Ponzi scheme pitch was that Rothstein would find
what he called was an investor and he would he
would say that he was working on a huge case
and a lot of the time he would say it's
like a sexual harassment case or you know, a divorce

(16:18):
case or a you know guy rich guy with a mistress,
that kind of thing, and he would basically pitch to
these quote unquote investors that they could for a you know,
a small upfront money, they could buy steak in an
eventual settlement that was going to a structured settlement that

(16:38):
was going to take place that can be worth millions
and millions. And they would obviously, you know, with part
of the scam. They were told that they were going
to sort of clean up on this. And one of
the big cases that Scott Rothstein used was the two
thousand and eight civil case that was filed by Brad Edwards,

(16:59):
well attorney who at that point was working for Rothstein,
who had filed these civil lawsuits against Jeffrey Epstein. And
this was there were three victims who filed civil cases
against Epstein in two thousand and eight that Brad Edwards
was in charge of and Rothstein even admitted that at
times he let his investors go through some of Brad

(17:21):
Edwards's legal files on the case and that he bragged
about this. So this was his like big meal ticket
case constantly.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
What's the connection? Rothstein and Epstein were somehow partners at
one point.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Right, No, No, So basically Epstein would Epstein would later
sue Brad Edwards. Yeah, and he basically and this is
in two thousand and nine the suit started, and it
didn't I don't think it was I don't think it
was officially settled until like twenty ten, twenty eleven. But

(17:55):
basically Epstein sued Edwards alleging that him and Rothstein were
wor working together, that Edwards was in on the Ponzi scheme,
and that that's why they kind of went after Epstein,
that they you know, they knew that Epstein had money
and that he could, you know, make big settlements, and
they sort of his attempt to kind of trump up
this whole thing and be like it wasn't a big deal.

(18:16):
These guys are at the gaming. Even though Epstein obviously
did it okay and he did settle with these women.
He ended up paying five point five million dollars to
these three women that suit him later in civil court.
But it's a lot. It's long been this sort of

(18:37):
thorn and brad Edward cider something that people have pointed
to that, well, you know, he was working with Rothstein,
who is dirty as a day is long. This guy
is super duper corrupt, very shady obviously, I mean he
was he was selling people stake in lawsuits. I mean
that that's unethical to say the least, you know, to

(19:00):
mention you No.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
I don't know about that, because they you can do.
I never heard of selling a stake along, but I can't.
I can see that happening. And also too, I know
you can you can borrow in advance against the lawsuit
with this company's out there that that loan you money
to litigation financing. It's cool and this is pretty much
just like litigation financing, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Well, I maybe, but I mean my he was going
up to anybody, random people, you know, just saying, here's
here's a case that my firm is working on. Do
you want to give me money right now? With the
promise that when we settle in a structured settlement, you'll
receive a million dollars on your whatever, fifty or one

(19:41):
hundred thousand dollars, you know, upfront investment. Yeah, I don't
know if that's totally on the up and up as
long matter.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
It could be. As long as the client was saying
that I'm borrowing this money upfront in order to finance
they could structure it in a way that could make
that legal. And I can tell you that right now.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Well, and I know there's a whole issue about the
structured settlements and the way that Rothstein phrased it in
his sort of you know, in his sales pitch, made
it sound vaguely legal, but as far as I know,
it was illegal what he was doing. And then of course,
I mean he was also it was a Ponzi ski.
He was never actually paying these people back. Nobody ever

(20:23):
saw a.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Time that's where the real money is not paying them back.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Right well, And so basically to kind of sum up
on that angle, Brad Edwards was in court for several
years fighting Epstein on this, and it was something that
people would bring up, you know, when you would sort
of hear these arguments. Well, maybe there was you know,
this is the perfect sort of it was all political

(20:49):
or there was a reason behind this, or you know
these excuse me, these these three young women at this point,
you know, they're just gold diggers. They're out for a
big you know, payday. They were in on it. You know,
there's sort of the classic kind of stuff. And that's
why Epstein did this. And eventually Epstein he could find
no evidence that Brad Edwards was aware of this or

(21:11):
was involved in any way. And Scott Rothstein is on
record saying Edwards had no knowledge, and I did this
without his knowledge, and you know I he's he's since
apologized directly to Brad Edwards for involving him in his
sordid life.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Let me ask you us that because you're saying that
the names of the three women, the three young girls
who received the family and all settlements, do you know
what their names are?

Speaker 1 (21:35):
No, they're still Jane Doe's okay.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Do you know if any of them weren't from New York?

Speaker 1 (21:42):
No? No, no, these I think these were all in Florida.
These are all girls in the Palm Beach area.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yea, there's absolutely other girls. There's some Puerto Rican girls
in New York City who received one man in dollar
settlements as well. I know they're for a fact.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Well, I mean it seems that Epstein made lots of settlements, yes, okay,
but it does seem that there are cases where he
was he was settling upwards of a million dollars. I
think one of the I mean, amongst these three women,
he paid five point five million, So at least one

(22:15):
of them, you know, is getting like two point something,
you know, Whereas Epstein was known to make smaller settlements,
but he will make these big ones too. And I
would assume that's because there's I don't know, more at
stake for him.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
I would assume because there's there's things that the victims
aren't saying publicly that they're holding back. That's where they're
getting more money. That's why certain of these victims are
getting more money, you know.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yeah, no, no, no, definitely, And I mean especially a lot
of these girls down in Palm Beach. I mean I'm
sure there there, you know, there was a lot more
going on, and also to the celebrities other people that
were involved, certainly and Palm you know, especially in the
sort of early two two thousands up until I guess

(23:03):
the two thousand and six when the investigation not even
after that two thousand and eight when he pled guilty.
You know, the sort of epicenter of his abuse seemed
to be sort of in the Palm Beach area. That
seems to be where a majority of this abuse was
going on. You know, this is when Epstein was molesting

(23:26):
maybe you know, three to four girls a day. This
is down in Palm Beach, and there's you know, there's
a current lawsuit at the moment right now here in
New York. It's Jane Doe, forty three, and she was
sort of just after that time period, and you know,
she sort of states in her criminal complaint that you know,
it became so hot in Palm Beach for Epstein that

(23:48):
a lot of the abuse then moved to New York.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Yeah, because that guy Jamie Lambert, I think his name
is Lambert, Jose Lambia. Okay, he was saying that Epstein
was pulling up into their neighborhoods of these one of
these little girls lived to their homes in his ferrari,
in his maserati, you know, and and show you know,
and we know we had their school transcripts and stuff
like that. So was saying that, you know, he was

(24:13):
really involved in their lives, you know, like, oh.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah, totally no. No, there's in the the original criminal
complaint there's a few of the girls. Uh some of
them are even named now. Uh you know, and they
and they openly talk. I mean, he was deeply involved
in their their social lives, you know, the friends that
they were with, boyfriends, Uh, fights they had with their parents.

(24:39):
Uh you know he uh he sent he sent roses
to a girl, uh you know, after a school play,
after her performance, he sent roses to her. Uh. So yeah,
he was certainly he knew their their social lives in
school and their home lives as well. Uh and undoubtedly,

(25:00):
I mean he used this to his advantage.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah. And when Virginia Roberts was traveling with him, she
was to communicate back and forth with her mother, and
her mother was telling me, you have to get away
from those people. So a lot of these parents knew
what was going on.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Oh yeah, yeah, definitely. Well, and I mean if you
read the criminal complaint, and if you read a lot
of the some of the reporting that was going on,
I mean the school had to know too that something
was going on. I mean there's almost it's like too
many victims, you know, and It's not that the school
was in on it or anything, but I'm certainly teachers, guidance,

(25:36):
counselor somebody knew that there were a lot of young
girls that were going to a rich man's house and
performing sexual favors in exchange for money.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yeah, because I remember when.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Being coerced into performing.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Yeah. Because when we were talking about this like three
years ago, and I would ask my daughter, I says,
you know, if this was going on at your school,
would everybody know? And she, oh, my god, are you
kidding me?

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Because kids, Daddy, everybody in these schools did know. There
were a lot of these girls were getting bullied by
other girls. You know, they became sluts and you know,
social pariahs and all these horrible, you know, insults and
things hurled at one another. The the reason that the
the the initial investigation began back in Palm Beach was because,

(26:18):
in part because a bunch of girls were getting into
fights with one another over you know, some girl calls
a girl you know whatever, skank or a slut or something,
you know, and a fight breaks out and it's you know,
why what is this about? And that's what led a
lot of police. That is what some of the initial
police investigations were began there, you know, where the principal

(26:39):
and guidance kind were like, oh, there's there's something larger
at stake here, this is this is why, and that's
what led them to investigating. Even though again that there
were there were it's admitted now by the the you know,
the Palm Beach Police chief, that they had gotten reports
about Epstein a while back before all this. The allegations

(27:02):
kind of hit the fan of young girls and young
women that were constantly hanging around, you know, he he
lives in like the sort of cul de Sac area.
You know that we're hanging around at all hours of
the night. Neighbors were complaining, and the oddly the Palm
Beach police just kind of they still to this day

(27:24):
have never totally confirmed or you know that they that
they went and investigated. They say they believed that they
investigated it but found nothing.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Now, well, you came up with some other stuff recently too.
But this in this golf magazine about another plane trip
between Trump and Epstein. What can you tell us about that?

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Oh? Yeah, well, if I mean, if I can also
kind of bring in the Roger Stone stuff, if you want.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
To okayishp with the Stone.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Okay, well yeah, well anyway, all of that stuff aside
the you know, Rothstein is a fascinating character in and
of itself, and and you know this, this weird lawsuit
that Epstein pulled against Rothstein, uh you know, it's attacking
Brad Edwards, is very fascinating. But the kicker in all
of this is that the reason you know, when I
looked up that Epstein had he had sort of joined

(28:11):
in this bankruptcy lawsuit against Rothstein in part because he
was suing him over the Edwards stuff. Also named as
one of the defendants in this bankruptcy lawsuit is none
other than Roger Stone. And that led me to a
series of articles and stuff discovering that Roger Stone is

(28:34):
a longtime friend and business associate of Scott Rothstein and
his law firm, and Stone was a partner so Rostein's
law firm. It was called Rostein Rossfeld Adler Okay, and
they also ran a consulting group called r R a
consulting Stone was a partner there and provided lobbying and

(28:56):
personal assistance to r r's lead goal clients. And Stone
even had an office at Rothstein's New York branch. This
is the famous office where Stone called Bernard Spitzer, Elliot
Spitzer's father and threatened him that he you know, that
he had to testify over campaign loans made to Elliot

(29:16):
Spitzer one year of course before the Spitzer prostitution scandal
that Stone played an intimate part in fomenting. And then
later you know, he of course ran Kristin Davis, who
maybe one of the Matt Madams that's that supplied prostitutes
to Elliott Spitzer and other people. And you know, and
Stone and R. R. Were also involved in Carl Palladino's

(29:38):
unsuccessful bid for governor. And you know he was wall
Scott Rothstein was you know, his life began falling apart
because of this Ponzi scheme. You know, he famously was
in his shower with a three fifty seven pointed at
his head, fully clothed, with water running, and he was
unable to pull the trigger. Then he he asked where

(30:01):
where could he flee that would that has no extradition
tree with the United States or Israel, and one of
them was Morocco. He fled to Morocco. This at this
same time that this is all going on Stone was
hiring people from Rothstein's firm directly to come work for
Carl Palladino. And then suddenly Rothstein returns from Morocco. He

(30:27):
starts cooperating with the FBI, and then he pleads guilty
January twenty ten, and he's sentenced to fifty years and
he's in he's in protective custody within the prison system.
And as a result of this whole bankruptcy trial, the
bankruptcy trustee in the Rothstein cases has got Herbert Stetton.

(30:51):
Stetton and he sued Stone for four hundred thousand dollars
that were that was allegedly provided to Stone from Rothstein,
and it's sort of no benefit. And Stone is alleged
to have gotten two hundred thousand personally from Rothstein. And
very unlike Roger Stone, he did actually settle this case

(31:14):
in twenty Thirteenly he only ended up paying eighteen thousand dollars.
But anyway, you know, this to me is just of
all the people in the world to be hooked up
with Rothstein, it just so happens to be Roger Stone.
And it just so happens that you know, Stone was

(31:37):
working with Rothstein while Rothstein's one of his partners, Brad Edwards,
was suing Jeffrey Epstein. So this is totally speculative. But
could Rothstein have been funneling information to Roger Stone? Possibly could?
And believe me, despite what Roger Stone might say, him

(32:00):
and Rostein are, we're good friends. You know now, of
course it's he was an idiot. Uh. You know, Roger
Stone talks about Scott Rothstein the same way that Donald
Trump talks about Jeffrey Epstein. Okay, and the Stone Zone
for when it first started, his idiotic website was there
the major backer of that was Scott Rothstein in his
law firm.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
What did you did you talk to that guy? I
gave you guys name. Don't mention his name, but I
gave you guy's name.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
I have not talked to him yet, but I know
I need to, just because the Rothstein angle is is
really fascinating, and that in and of itself is like
worth uh you know, doing whole episodes and stuff on
because there's a lot with Rothstein, and it's a great
window into how shady Florida politics is. And of course,

(32:48):
and and you know, Roger Stone is at the at
the center of it. Again, but I just you know,
all I'm gonna say is and then we can move on.
But again, of all the people in the world, it's
Roger Stone that his good friends with Scott Rothstein, who
was making money off of this lawsuit involving Brad Edwards

(33:09):
and Jeffrey Epstein. And I wouldn't it all be surprised
if Rothstein was letting Stone in on some of the
I mean, this is the thing. I mean Rothstein was
you know, he would he would tell anybody in the world,
you know, about about these these cases that his firm
was involved with. So if there's no way that that
Roger Stone didn't know about this, okay, and some of

(33:32):
these cases back then, you know, I don't know specifically
this the civil cases that were tried by Brad Edwards
back in two thousand and eight, but some of those
other civil case that Edwards tried, you know, Trump was
named okay and gave depositions in some of these cases.
So again, very easy for Stone to tell his buddy,

(33:55):
you know, hey, watch yourself or prepare prepare for a deposition,
and you know this is what you got to say.
There's all all sorts of information. So I just I
find it highly suspicious. I can't really prove anything yet,
so this is sort of speculative. But the Stone connection
is almost like too much for me.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
You know something, I tell you, the more we hear,
we're only scratching the surface of what's really going on
with all these people. And I think that's why they
don't mind us talking about it so much, because we
have no idea what's really what they're really really up to,
you know. But real quick, but at first, I want
to point out to me what he said. Roger Stone
too is the guy I remember when they were counting

(34:36):
those chads down there in Florida, the hanging chads. The
Stone's the guy that rounded up all those Cubans and
those white shirts and the short sleeved shirts with the
ties and kind of banging on the walls and banging
on the That was Stone's work man, getting all those
Cuban guys go down there. He rolled up a bunch
of Cuban thugs. They shut down the count of the chads.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Oh, I mean, and and you when you start reading
about Sky Rosstein, I mean, this is this guy is
so corrupt and nasty, and it's it's no surprise that
Stone was. He described Roger Stone as you know, basically
when the you know, proverbial stuff hits the fan, Roger
Stone is who you call.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Yeah, I can imagine.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Just quickly on that. You know, you just mentioned the
whole hanging Chad. You know, the Brooks brother riot. John
b Anderson just passed away. And he was an Illinois congressman,
a Republican, uh, and he ran as an independent candidate
during the I think it was Reagan and Jimmy Carter

(35:41):
in nineteen eighty and Stone, you know, mister oh, the
Clintons rigged the election. Yeah, he rigged the hell out
of that election because it was very possible at the
time that John b Anderson was going to carry New York.
And Roy Kohane gave Stone like a million dollars in cash, okay,

(36:02):
and Stone personally delivered it to the sort of New
York political machine. And John b Anderson did not win
in New York and and Stone later bragged about that
in The Weekly Standard that he he paid people off
cash to make sure this guy wouldn't win, so that
Ronald Reagan would win the election.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
And don't forget too. Stone also ran the campaign of
Al Sharpton and and Al Sharpton to split a different
but he ran his credential campaign yeah and right and
Sharpton also when he was running for mayor of New
York or governor New York and stuff like that, and
he would lose. But then he would say, well, you
don't know why I was running, you know, like he

(36:42):
was running to split the Democratic vote. You know, boy,
we can get into it.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
I mentioned earlier. Stone was, you know, worked for Carl Palladino,
who's this real sick, nasty, racist, real estate guy from
like Albany or some Buffalo, some horrible city in New York.
And uh, he ran for governor and Stone was all

(37:06):
behind him. At the same time Stone was running Carl
Palladino's campaign, he was also running Kristin Davis. This is
the former madam who claimed to you know service uh
a Rod and Elliot Spitzer and she ran on the
Anti Prohibition Party or whatever. So you know, at the
some of these crazy debates, uh where you know, we

(37:31):
had some real characters running that here in New York.
But you know he had two two candidate hits in
that race.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
The rent is too damn high.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, Jimmy McMillan. I just saw him a few days ago.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Oh, we're just walking down street. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Yeah, he's always He's always driving around the East Village
where he works, so I see him all the time.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Oh, wouldn't you want to interview him?

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Well, you know though, he's he's a he was for
a while Trumps top burner.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Okay, so I don't.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Know quite what what I mean.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
The sure is, man, I think I can go back
to New York anyone.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yeah, it's pretty insane. No, and I mean most of
what you mean, macmillan says is totally you know on
the Mark.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Okay, Well you're pretty much answered all my questions because
I want my notes there. I was gonnaice about Carl
Palladino to tell people who he was and stuff like that.
Anything else you want to share with us about what
was Trump's playing? The Trump's Playing episode, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
That's a this is an interesting nugget, but this is
a uh. Maybe a week or two ago there was
an article in The Daily Beast that was talking about
another lude comment made by Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
And this was to a journalist Michael Corkran, who wrote
for Maximum Golf, which is a now defunct magazine, but
it was a Rupert Murdoch's magazine, and it was it
was like, uh, what's it sort of like their target
audience was like to, I don't know, like cool hip golf.
It was supposed to be like their answer to like stuffy,

(39:06):
boring golf magazines. And you know, they had a there's
a couple uh spreads they did of Malania Trump in
Maximum Golf. There's one where she's naked in a bathtub
filled with golf. Yes, yeah, yeah, that's from Maximum Golf.
People might have seen that. Anyway. Michael Corcoran traveled around

(39:27):
with Donald Trump at mar A Lago at some golf
court tournament or something, and Trump remarked to him at
this dinner that quote, there is nothing in the world
like first rate.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Can I say the word, yeah, we're already cursing on
this show.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
It's gonna remember, okay, Well, yeah, there's nothing in the
world like first rate pussy. And this was in reference
to a young socialite that was at tomor A Lago dinner.
And this became a whole you can't say that no way,
but and the editors changed it to talent, which is
also pretty SKEAZYU and that was sort of it, and

(40:07):
the Daily Bast article was all that, Oh my god,
I can't believe it, you know, he said, he said
it again, this is so terrible. But also including that
Daily Bass article was an interesting little, you know, side note,
and this was in the original article. This was never altered,
but that when they were flying from mar A Lago
back to New York, Michael Corkran was on the plane

(40:29):
with them, okay, and it was you know, Milania and
Trump and probably some other people from their Entouragan Corcoran.
They waited at the marine terminal for quite some time
because Jeffrey Epstein and Gisland Maxwell were running late. And
this quote appeared in Maximum Golf from Trump quote, you

(40:50):
broke up the carlin Ol rule. Jeffrey never be laid
for someone else's plane and not mentioned in the article.
But what Corkoran has now spoken about to The Daily
Beast was a woman who was on board the plane
as well, and he couldn't tell her age, but that
she certainly was young and definitely made up to look
a bit older. So just to be clear, and this

(41:13):
is the article came out in August of two thousand,
So you've got Trump his wife Milania, and then Jeffrey
Epstein and Gisli Maxwell and an unidentified young woman all
on the same plane. And this to me, of course,
piqued my interest for a couple of reasons. One is

(41:34):
that Virginia Roberts or Virginia Guafari was being abused in
that timeframe. Okay, she was abused from nineteen ninety nine
when she was first picked up working at mar A
Lago until two thousand and two when she escaped and
went to Thailand and then later to Australia, and she was.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Being transported back and forth across the country. This wasn't
just yes, one of the girls that was at the
mansion Palm Beach.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Those pictures were one of Epstein's favorites.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Yeah, that pictures a her in New York. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Yeah. Oh he he offered to uh, you know, he
wanted Epstein to carry his child, you know and raise
it and stuff. Yeah, I mean, really weird. But so
that's in that timeframe. So it's possible that this this,
that this was Virginia Roberts.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
And not only that too, but you got to remember
too that Virginia Roberts worked at mar A Lago in
the folding room there in the ladies locker room, they're
folding towels. And that's where Gishline Maxwell met her and
procured her and delivered her to Epstein. So if she
worked there at mar A Lago as their father did,
her father worked there as a maintenance manager, Trump would
have to recognize this child when she was coming on

(42:45):
the plane with Epstein, And wouldn't he wonder, Hey, what's
going on here?

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Oh? Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, no no, but uh no.
But instead, I mean he's and this is this is
sort of indicative of my whole point with this, is
that this, this little tiny story just illustrate further how
how close Epstein and Trump were right, because you know,
does does does Donald Trump wait for anybody? No, there's no,

(43:11):
There's no freaking way. You know, he's not someone that
waits for other people. And he's not someone that you
want to leave, you know, waiting. Uh. And that's just
that's that's the personality that he puts out there, you know.
I mean you I can almost expect him to to
to you know, to turn to Michael Corker and this
journals be like, oh, you know, it's screw it. Let's fly.
You know, Jeff, I'll get the next plane out.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Get the machine, get the machine. Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
But instead they wait there, okay, with a journalist. And
this is before Epstein is sort of well known. I mean,
most people wouldn't really know who this guy was, you know,
outside of you know, financial circles in New York. This
guy's more or less unknown. Now. Another interesting thing is

(43:55):
that this is uh this year two thousand. There is
also a picture from February twelfth, two thousand, at mar
A Lago. This is a Getty Images picture. This is
not fake or doctored or anything like that of Trump, Epstein, Maxwell,
and Melania, So again piecing lists together. Either that photo

(44:17):
is from the same party you know in the article
was only written later, or we've got them on two
separate occasions, one time in February and another time in
I don't know, July or August, where they're all together
down in mar A Lago flying on each other's plane.
So you know, this is a couple of you know,

(44:38):
important takeaways from this is the fact that now we
know Trump has flown on Epstein's plane at least once,
sometime probably in the late nineteen nineties. According to Mark Epstein,
Jeffrey Epstein's brother. That comes from a two thousand and
nine deposition. And now we know that Epstein has flown
on Trump's plane at least once. So again this begs
the question, given Trump's temperament and personality, why is he

(45:03):
waiting for Epstein? What is Epstein doing that's so important
that Donald Trump is going to wait? Jeffrey Epstein has
his own private plane, okay. And even if he didn't
have his plane down there, which I assume I guess
he didn't, this guy could charter a plane, okay, at
a moment's notice, or he could get a first class
ticket anywhere he wants. Why is he flying on someone

(45:23):
else's plane? What is so important that Donald Trump is
waiting for Jeffrey Epstein? Okay? Now I again, I talked
about this one when we were on Chuck Show. Hopping
on someone's private plane from Marlowe, you know, from Palm
Beach to New York City. That is not the same
as me hopping in my friend's car here here in

(45:44):
Brooklyn and driving into Manhattan. Okay, you know, I'm just
hoping to ride the city, all right. We're talking about,
you know, getting on a private plane and flying for
several hours, you know, from you know, the south all
the way up you know north to New York City.
That's you know that that's a that's like a big ask.
I would assume. Okay, Yet Donald Trump is willing to

(46:06):
do this. So this this either means they are such
good friends that he will make everyone else wait, uh
and and be late for Jeffrey Epstein, or Jeffrey Epstein
was doing something so important that that Trump wanted to wait,
And that would lead me to believe that perhaps, you know,

(46:27):
this was something that was going to benefit the two
of them, This is something that had to be done.
You don't think that, you know, Uh, Epstein was I
don't know, running late because you know he I don't
you know he he gets certainly you know, the power
off in his house or something like that. You know,
there is what we're doing errands. I mean, this guy
doesn't do that. So what was Epstein doing that He

(46:49):
was late and you know I was Trump waiting for it?
Uh So you know, I mean, those those are those
are pretty big to me, and again illustrate the close
relationship ship that these two men have in spite of
the sort of rhetoric that we hear that Trump barely
knew the guy, you know, I mean, that's just a
bold faced lie. First off, there's pictures of all of

(47:11):
them together. There's pictures of Trump and Maxwell from back
in the nineties. There's pictures of all of them together.
There's a picture of Trump and in nineteen eighty seven
at Marlo plus Trump, Epstein, and Maxwell for two thousand.
We know that Trump blue on Epstein's plane at least once.
We now know that Epstein flew on Trump's plane at

(47:31):
least once. They all hang out in mar A Lago.
Many of Epstein's victims were from mar A Laago. And now,
of course you know alex Acosta, labor secretary, you know,
gave Epstein this sweetheart deal. We know that one of
Donald Trump's best friends, Roger Stone, were working, you know,

(47:53):
for a law firm that was involved in suing Jeffrey
Epstein at one point. And then you know that was
later used against Brad Edwards this lawsuit. So I mean, again,
I like you said, I mean, maybe they're okay with
us talking about it, because I don't quite know what
to make of all of this, But you know, and

(48:14):
that's what's so frustrating about the Epstein cases. A lot
of times it feels like, uh, the answer is right
there in front of us, but we can't quite decipher.
We can't kind of peel the onion back and up.
But anyway, I'll stop talking and I'll throw it back
to you. There's quite a lot here. And this is
again a few lines in the Daily Beast article that

(48:35):
that to me should be making you know, front page news.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Oh, I forget, it's never gonna make front page news.
That's done. You know, if they could have Kevin Spacey
making front page news and they don't mention that he
was on Epstein's playing with Trump, nothing's ever gonna happen
with that. They got some black military don't be able
to control those switches. And then again you saw these
Masad connections too.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
So yeah, well, I see, I got a question for you, ed,
go ahead, is is Trump did he have a stroke
or where those his dentures were falling out?

Speaker 3 (49:11):
You know what, you look at this guy, especially even
during the debates, the Republican primary debates, you look at
that guy, and you look at this guy today. It's
it's a different guy. It's it's a one hundred years
older and can't finish a sentence. He can't finish a
sentence no matter what he's doing. He just he picks
out a couple of words. He just repeats him over

(49:32):
and over again.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
No, I know. Did you also remember from the debates,
you know, it sounded like he you know, he just
railed like a plate of coke before he came out.
You every five minutes he's like, yeah, sniffing that like
coke head sniffing sound. And then he's doing that with
that speech where he's slurring his words. He's yeah, he's
deep int I'm sorry, that's probably the you know, annoying

(49:57):
for the listeners, but deep in hails. I mean, what
is he that out of breath? I mean he's he's
gained like a hundred pounds or so. And then we
heard this diet is like fish filet and you know, uh,
big Max and stuff.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Wait a second, if it really is, maybe they're just
saying that because to cover up for the coke, like
you said, because you know, because you know, if it's
true that this guy is drinking twelve soda cans a
day and three Big Max and fil a fish that
fish eat that's the most disgusting thing on the face.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
It's like the nastiest thing on the McDonald's man.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Yeah, you know, it's like on there for a joke.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Yeah, I know, that's like they're like attempts at at
you know, you know, you don't want a burgery to
get the fish that I know it's discussed.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Wait a second, imagine this too. Who you had that
pink slime in that that McDonald's hamburger meat. If he
liked the taste of the Thousand Island dressing and it,
couldn't he have a chef make one just like it,
but with real meat, you know, I know, right the
hope that makes no sense. So maybe that's all just
because if that's true, though, then he's just a spoiled

(51:08):
baby who was eating Big Max and twelve sodas a day.
He needs a parent to stop him.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
No, I know, that's like this whole he was dehydrated.
I mean, so that's the second time in a few
months that the president nobody was checking on him, and
he got so dehydrated that his I mean, he was
you know, he couldn't finish a speech. I mean, this
is like when when he when when he had to
look for the bottle of Fiji.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
Water, right, you know, No, that was a signal, was
a signal he's rounding up pedophiles because Speege is one
of the one of the islands with pedophile insana going out.
It wouldn't make these things with these sealed indictments.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
What do you mean would the Russian stuff?

Speaker 3 (51:49):
No? No, they're saying that this well anywhere between two
hundred and five thousand sealed indictments, and because Trump is
rounding up the lad pedophiles.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Uh oh I I I don't believe him for a second.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Well, there's there's definitely some sealed indictments. There's at least
two hundred, and you keep hearing about the number rising.
But it could be anything. Could be Mexican street gangs,
could be anything. You know, we don't know what it is,
but there is, there is it's.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
A sealed indictment. We don't know any I mean, what
can you tell.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
From that pedophiles because you know.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
That's maybe, but I just don't This is I mean,
this is what I'm talking about, Like you know this,
this this story in the Daily Beast, this stuff with
with Rothstein and Stone. I mean, these Trump is in
on it. Okay, if he's not actively engaging in abusing
children and women, then he was aware of it the

(52:46):
whole time. You know. And another funny thing too. You
look at someone Likestine that god looks like he's never
aged a day in his life. Okay, I mean this,
he's must be bathing and I don't know, virgin blood
and stuff. This guy never ages health nut, he's you know,
he is very well, quite a classy person. Uh. And

(53:10):
then you look at Donald Trump, fat over with slob,
his hair falling out. He may not have teeth, you know,
he's uh. I mean, he's such a mouth breather that
when he has to breathe his nose, it's like this
horrible sound erupts.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
You know that's very odd too that these two people
would even be friends, which again is I mean, what
what what do they really have in common together? Because
it's not their their lifestyle, it's not their eating habits.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
Because if you look, it seems like Trump doesn't have
any friends. And even Melania doesn't like him when you
look at her face.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Oh, totally, totally, I mean, And that's the thing, I mean,
how many that's the right When you say Trump doesn't
have friends. I mean, we don't really. You know, the
few people that he talks so speak so highly of.
One of them is Jeffrey Epstein, right, you know that's
on record. So again, I mean, what makes these two

(54:05):
guys friends?

Speaker 3 (54:06):
And the only one you ever mentioned was Carl icon
too resigned from his fake cabinet post there and then
he knew nobody when he was I'm gonna hire the
best people he had nobody to hire. He is, and
he gets along with nobody, and you think he would
load it up with some friends, but it's all family members,
you know. And then and you're right, where where are
is his friends? You know? And his lawyers, you know,

(54:28):
Cohen and stuff like that, those guys, not Roy Cone,
but the other lawyer, the younger Cohen who yeah, yeah,
those kind of characters.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
No, No, I know, Well, I mean I think this
is part of his whole problem right now, is I mean,
he's just he's so isolated. Yeah, more so than he
was previously.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Probably, Hey, what about the rumors you hear about the
Milania has a longtime boyfriend in New York. His name
has even surfaced a few times even on my Facebook pages.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Come up I've not heard that, but I wouldn't be surprised.
I mean, I assume they have an understanding.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Yeah, and that's why she's so so upset. She doesn't
want to be in DC, and that's why she's so
angry all the time, you know.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Yeah, I mean I would be too if I had to.
I mean, can you imagine waking up next to Trump
if they even.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
Chair Yeah, I don't think they share him something I doubt.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
It, but still, I mean with no teeth.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
In Oh my god, I didn't even throw to that.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Yeah, you know, well, and that's what you know. It's
such a silly thing. But he might just have dentures.
And if he does, then just admit it. That's not
he's making it. I mean, this is more just sort
of goes to how actually much of a moron and
how out of depth he is with public relations and

(55:42):
how to you know, everyone thinks he's always playing the media. Yeah,
but all he does is he just steps in it.
I mean, rather than just say I have dentures, okay,
And they were falling out and it was really embarrassing.
You know, he's gonna pretend like him saying United States
was his dry mouth that got progressively worse. Okay, I mean,

(56:07):
so he's turning it into a story. So everyone is
just gonna be like, well, you're either having a stroke
and you're not telling us, or you have dentures and
you're so ashamed, you know, you're such a baby, You're
so embarrassed that you won't admit it. And furthermore, it's like,
does nobody if he is dentures? I bet he doesn't
tell anybody, And it's like, right, and no one is like,
mister President, do you have your fix adent in? Because

(56:30):
I mean, this is the thing. At some point they're
gonna fall out now if those are dentures.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
Yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right, you know, and the White
House is in such casts as never before in history.
I can't I can't imagine a time more chatact than this.
And no matter how much the deep State is you know,
trying to destroy, not the deep state, we don't have
the CI they're trying to destroy. Yeah, and the estabishment,
they're not telling him to change the embassy and you're

(56:57):
not telling him to say that Nazis are very fied people.
This stuff he's coming up up with on his own,
you know.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Yeah, No, No, totally. Yeah. I mean I don't I
don't think. I don't think they really have a say.
I mean, that's that's like this whole moronic Uh. You know,
it's like a two day long event on CNN and

(57:23):
the other news outlets. You know who really sent that tweet?
Was it really Trump or his lawyer? Of course it
was Trump. You think anybody can get Kelly or right,
Kelly can't get his phone away from him, you know,
you you and you hear these things too, where you
know Kelly is like, don't don't send him stuff, don't
don't put calls through to him, because he's just gonna

(57:44):
go on a rant on Twitter. He's gonna watch Fox,
Fox and Friends all day and probably eat McDonald's, you know,
chug diet coke until he, you know, becomes so dehydrated
that he can't you know, he starts losing his mind
on camera. Uh you know, of course he said it.
Nobody's gonna touch this guy. That's what I mean too,
his personality. No one's touching Donald Trump's phone and sending tweets, okay,

(58:09):
the same way that you know, nobody makes Donald Trump. Wait,
apparently except for Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
But but how does he even have a phone, because
remember there was a whole business by Obama that they
had to give a special phone and they couldn't do it,
couldn't tweet stuff.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
What is going on that I don't know? But I'm
you know.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
And then you got you know, Chushian who wants to
meet with the Russians and a secret Russian had out,
you know, a safe uh skiff from the Russians control.
Like what is going This is just a complete insanity,
you know. And then uh, they're all involved. Podessa's involved
in it too. Pedessa's in business with Manifore and stuff.

(58:48):
Oh yeah, of course, you know, it's just complete casd uh.
And I don't I still predict Trump's gonna wind up
in prison, you know ultimately, you know, because there's no
way he can survive all this but the money laundering
and who knows what else he's up to.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Well, I I saw an interesting theory being floated out
there as a possibility. But you know, after after this
slurring speech thing or dentures whatever, of course, everyone is like,
what's going on? And uh, Sarah Hackabe is, oh, well,
well he's gonna have a physical uh you know, the
beginning of the new year. And maybe it's not gonna

(59:29):
be the glowing physical that that fucking that shady quack
doctor that he uses in New York. You know, Oh,
he's the healthiest man on the planet. You know that
that's not that that's not gonna fly. So the theory
is maybe the report is not gonna be so good.
And he said, I have to resign because of health reasons.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
And I'm putting Jared in charge.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
My daughter is gonna takeover.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
I will pot think Jared as president. He probably thinks
he can do that. He probably thinks he could do that.
You know. Oh, sure, it's just so funny. Listen, we're
at a time though. Man. I really enjoyed this perios.
I say it. I can't thank you enough. You really
cheered me up at a long day, but up to
three am, and you cheered me up. And I'm gonna
go buy a bottle of wine. Haven't had a drinking
about a month. You got me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
In a jovial mood.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Yeah, I can't thank you enough for me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
I really care till thank you and for having me
back on. I always love coming on your show and
uh and talking with you. And you know you and
your listeners are always such a huge support for me,
So thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Well tell everybody a game where they could find you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Sure, so, all my shows are on my website, which
is Porkin's Policy Review dot com. And you can find
my radio show, all the appearances I do, like on
Chuck Show and Tom Seckers and others, and you can find, uh,
you know, all the stuff I do is there. And
of course I'm on American Freedom Radio if you want
to listen to me live on Tuesdays from three to

(01:00:55):
five pm Eastern and then rebroadcast later on Friday nights.
I want to say, what am I eleven to one
am or something.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Not Eastern, not a Pacific time? You come on right
after me on Friday's I end at eight, yeah, eleven o'clock.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Yeah your time, Yeah, eleven o'clock, Yeah, my time. And
then I'm also you know, out in Utah on Kyah
Utah forty am Utah's Talk Authority Saturday nights from six
to eight. So yeah, lots of stuff, and I'm working
on some cool stuff. I'm bringing back an older podcast
I used to do with my good friend Christoff German

(01:01:38):
called Porkin's Great game. We're going to start recording episodes again,
hopefully by the end of December. And yeah, I've got
some of this. I got a cool big interview I'm
doing with Pat McKenna and Ethlee Bailey about the O. J.
Simpson trial and their involvement. So that'll be a nice
big episode to kind of come around out the year.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to that. I'm looking forward to that.
This redmand thank you so much, keep in touch with.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
My friend, Thank you, ed, good night.

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