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Catholic Church. She's also got a website, US Coalition for Life,
and you can find that at uscl dot info something
this fascinating document too that I can't wait to get
into that, Miss Angle, are you there?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Happy to be here?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
So nice to meet you. Randy Angle, tell us specs yourself.
Who is Randy Angel?
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Well, I'm a mother of five, happily married for fifty
five years, and I'm also a investigative reporter. I've written
on everything from the Vietnam War all the way through
the pro life issues, heart transplantation, you name it, I've
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probably tackled it at one time or another.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Now, I invited you on the show to talk about
your book, The Right of Sodomy, Homosexuality and the Roman
Catholic Church. But then you sent me this document called
New Order of Barbarians and it's about this gentleman, call
this character, doctor Richard Day. Yes, right now, and what
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would you like to get into first, this incredible document
or your book.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Well, let's do the New Order of Barbarians because that
will lead us directly into the issue of homosexuality and
its role in the new world order.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
So well, let me start with this. Is there an
actual audio tape of this speech he gave?
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Well, let me talk a little bit about the speech.
First in nineteen sixty nine. The date was March twentieth,
nineteen sixty nine, the Pittsburgh Pediatric Society had its annual
meeting and the guest was doctor Richard Day. He is
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he's fairly well known in the pediatric field. He specialized
in premature infants, but his real call to fame was
he was a protege of the Rockefeller family and a
former national medical director of Planned Parenthood World Population. So
doctor Larry Dunnaghan, who was a friend of mine, was
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at this particular meeting in nineteen sixty nine, and like
everyone that was at the dinner meeting, they all expected
doctor Day to talk about something n pediatrics, specifically in
saving premature babies, but instead he talked about something quite
different and on the program, the topic was family planning,
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coland infant mortality, gene frequency, abortion and other considerations. Well,
that must have turned up a few heads. So he
began the speech by stating that he didn't want a
speech recorded, so he asked everyone to turn off their recorders,
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which is a little unusual for a professional to ask.
And at that point doctor Dunnaghan, who was in the audience,
he thought, why turn off the recorder? My recorder so
instead he decided that he would He just grabbed there
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was a waiter going by, he grabbed a stack of
paper napkins. The doctor didn't say anything about taking notes,
so that's what he did exactly. And so doctor Day
began this speech. It was a speech New Order of
Barbarians is a speech on population control. However, it's not
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the normal speech with regard to population control via sterilization, abortion,
so forth. I think one of the things that will
startle your audience is that doctor Day defined population control
as the complete control of all aspects of the individual line,
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so that it was a remarkable speech, specifically remarkable because
he was a doctor sworn to preserve life. I think
probably he was old enough that he had taken the
hippocratic oath, and yet he was going to be talking
about killing both elderly as well as the preborn child.
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So that is the So the speech is about. The
article is about the speech that doctor Day gave and
that doctor down again lecture, wrote down and then made
into a tape.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Okay, when did doctor Demighan first to make his notes
or tape public? What year.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Nineteen to eighty eight? Twenty years later? Fortunately he still
saved the Napkins. And he's a rather bright man, so
he had recalled. He was so moved and so startled.
Doctor Dunagan is a pro life fellow. And to hear
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this man talk about this new world system that's coming,
in fact, it's not coming in nineteen sixty nine, he said,
it's already here. That was something that intrigued him. So
he was able to resuscitate his notes and write out
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what he remembered, and he then produced a single tape
which later developed into several tapes because I interviewed him
on the issues that they had discussed.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Was doctor dem what was your name again, doctor, doctor Dunaghan,
dumb again? Okay? I tried to appreciate it. Dumb again now?
And how long have you known him?
Speaker 5 (08:01):
I had known doctor Duhan again, probably probably for about
fifteen or twenty years.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Okay, So then you can vouch for his character. You
don't think that he made this up.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
No, you couldn't make it up. He was in your
first nightmare. And also, you know what when I first
heard of this, and I had borne into doctor Duninggan's
office and we had talked about this tape, and that's
when he revealed to me what doctor Donaghan had said,
and he said, here, Randy, here's a copy of the tape.
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And I made the mistake actually of putting the tape
into the tape deck and listening to it on the
way home. And I can honestly tell the audience that
I was at a very difficult time keeping the car
on the road because it was so that the tape
was so damning and the lecture, what was in the
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lecture was so damning, it was so horrific. It was
it's kind of beyond.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
The pale, right, right, Doctor Richard Day gave this lecture
in nineteen sixty nine, and the things he describes in
nineteen sixty nine did not exist in nineteen sixty nine,
but they do exist today now.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Even everything right, he described everything down to the last
minute detail. I've often checked my list to see the
very specific said he wrote about, or that he discussed,
and every one of them has come to pass.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
And even in nineteen eighty eight, many of these things
had not come to pass yet, but do exist today.
That's right, right, But I still want to authenticate this
a little bit more. Now, did doctor Dunagan, did he
share his notes or experience with anybody prior to nineteen
eighty eight, friend's family, anything like that.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
No, he didn't, And I asked him why he had,
and he said, because it was that he was busy.
He got during that time period, during those twenty years,
he had gotten married, he was raising his family, he
was starting a career. But he said every once in
a while, an incident work would occur and he would
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remember what doctor Day had said. And finally, in nineteen
eighty eight he decided that it was time to put
everything down in writing. And when I received the tape,
I then asked him permission to duplicate the tape. And
that's when the and we got a transcript of doctor
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dunagan'st report. And that's the new order of Barbarians that
we're going to be talking about today.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Fascinating, But even by nineteen eighty eight, he must have realized, hey,
look all these things are happening, you know, And he
must have realized.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Oh, yes he did. But that was a year that
it seemed to come together for him, and that he
actually had the time to sit down and really delve
into his notes and make a record of it. Now
ed you had mentioned, you know, I knew doctor Dunagan,
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his character was intechable, but there was for those who
didn't know him, there might be this question about who
he was, as you just asked. And I think one
of the important things that kind of verifies what doctor
dunagain reported on the Day tape, on the Day's Talk,
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and that was the fact that March on March twenty ninth,
nineteen sixty nine, doctor Day gave that talk, but ten
days prior to that, it was a memo that was
sent out from Frederick Draffy, he was the vice president
of Planned Parenthood, and on March eleventh, ten days before,
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he sent out a famous memorandum to Bernhard Baramson, who
was the head of Rockefella's Population Council. And in this memo,
which I'm looking at a copy right now and is
on the US Coalish Life website, the title of the
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memo was a Memorandum on Proposed Measures for Population Control.
And the chart is divided into three sections, and in
the first section this is the head of Planned Parenthood
and vice President of Planned Parenthood and one of the
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Rockefeller Toadies, and they're talking about, for example, I'm looking
at the chart right now, encourage increased homosexuality, added fertility
control agent to water supply, compulsory abortion, compulsory sterilization, and
the big and as I said, the one that struck
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me really was the encouraged to increase homosexuality, which we'll
talk about later. But so at so here we have
this memo going from Planned Parenthood to population control headquarters
at Rockefellers, and almost what eleven days later or nine
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days later, we have Richard Day coming to Pittsburgh. Instead
of talking about pediatrics, he's talking about this whole population
control scenario. So you know, that was kind of concrete
evidence to me, knowing Richard Day's close relationship to the
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rock Fellas, in fact, he's buried in Rockefeller one of
the rock Fellow cemeteries, that there was something more to
this than just, you know, a pediatrician cooking up a
story about something he heard but that no one can prove.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
And it's important that we established this so that people
can understand the series of this lecture. Now. But now
the memo, how is the memo? How did you obtain
the memo of freedom from information? And something like that?
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Well, the US Collition for Life is a research agency
and we do a lot of investigating on different topics,
and we also monitor government anti life programs. And at
the time, back in nineteen sixty nine, as executive director,
I did newsletters, but I was investigating some of the
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Planned Parenthood propaganda. So I obviously I would subscribe to
all the population control publications of plan Parenthood. And one
day it arrived in the mail. A It's a Planned
Parenthood supplement and it's called a Family Planning Perspectives Special
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Supplement published by Planned Parenthood World Population nineteen seventy. So
this is, we'll say, a year after doctor Day gave
his talk, and so lo and behold what did they
have in there? But they had the chart that I
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read you, plus all these suggestions about compulsory this, compulsory that.
And so that was again a reminder for me. Even
though at that time I hadn't doctor Dunagan hadn't told
me about it, Planned Parenthood had already issued this memorandum
and it was in Planned Parenthood Perspectives. And so what
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I did was I called I called over it Planned Parenthood.
A secretary by the name of Gloria was I and
I said, is your material copyrighted? She said, no, and
I said, well, I want to reproduce it. She said, oh,
be my guest. So I took the memo which which
was kind of blurred in the original, and I had
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it reset the type reset and that memo was sent
out internationally and received a great deal of news at
the time, but it was pretty much limited to the
pro life groups.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
And it's doctor lecture that we're going to be talking
about today, New Order of Barbarians. This can be now.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
No. All it had was the timing UH. It had
this information on population control, which doctor Day discussed as
part of his UH description of the coming or the
present new World system, and in the in the New
Order of Barbarians, in that lecture, what we find is
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that all this information about compulsion for child taxes increased homosexuality.
That was all in the day speech. So there was
some connection. Either doctor Day had seen the memo or
knew it was coming out because it came out a
little while later. But he was he was in thick
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with the Rockefellers, so I'm sure he had gone over this.
He was also the at one time he was the
medical director of the National Medical Director of Planned Parenthood
in Manhattan, so there's no doubt he had all the
necessary contacts between the Rockefellers and Planned Parenthood. That was
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pretty pretty well sewed up the whole discussion of population
control in its in it, with its many faces.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
People can refer to this document we're going to be
discussing today. This lecture transcript at usc L dot info
is yes.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
And it's absolutely free. You can look at the Not
only is it the transcript of the Dunnagan tapes, but
it also contains my lengthy interview with him, because of course,
after I listened to the tape, some of it was
so unbelievable, I had so many questions that I met
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with him shortly thereafter. And in addition to his original tape,
there are there's an additional tape, which is the transcript
appears in the New Order of Barbarians. So the reader
will get the whole package, and it's free.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
And it's doctor Richard Day. We know that you say
that he was sponsored by the Rockefellers and then later
on became head of Planned Parenthood. Do we know what's
become of him? And later in his career his life,
what else he was up to.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Well, he actually died at the age of eighty four,
one year after he gave the speech in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Oh so he was already like in his eighties when
he gave the speech. Okay, that's right, Okay, this is fascinating. Okay,
now let's start out. We've established the authenticity of all this.
I hate it sounds like I'm interrigating you. But when
when people hear what's in this speech and in this
you're gonna you're gonna have a heart attack. So give
us an idea. What do we find inside this this
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incredible document you sent me.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Well, the let me see just how it about Doctor Day.
When he gave his talk, he prefaced it. One of
the things that kind of caught doctor Day's Doctor Dunagan's
attention about Day talking was that doctor Day would say
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something really outrageous, uh, and then he would preface or
he would add a little remark of well, I'm sorry
it has to be this way, but it has to
be this way kind of thing, and among those. When
he opened his talk he said that I'm going to
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talk about a new world system. He didn't call it
new world order, a new oral system. And he said,
just so that you know it's not about communism. This
new World system, by the way, he said, is already
in place, and nothing can stop us now. So he
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was definitely an insider who knew exactly what was going on.
But what I found extraordinary about the speech was the
length and the depths of what he knew about this
new world system. He said that one of the keynotes
associated with the New World system was the that was
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the element of change, he said. He gave me the
statement nothing is permanent, and that would be reflected in
these new citizens of the New World System because they
wouldn't have roots and therefore they could be easily controlled.
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And then he also made the preface statement that everything
in this world has two purposes. When I'm explaining something
to you, I'll give you the ostensible reason, the ostensible
reason being this is what you want to hear and
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you're going to like it. The other reason is the
real reason, which I won't give you. And for example,
he said, for example in the area area of the
sex initiation of children, which goes by the name of
sex education, he says, we started sex education in schools
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under the guise of this is going to help avoid
unwanted pregnancies among young people. And it will avoid sexually
transmitted disease. What he didn't say, he didn't give the
real reason, and that is that you wanted to sexualize
children at an early age because sexualized individuals who don't
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use their reasoning power and who are not associated with
any deep faith are more controllable. So that was kind
of the example he gave.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Have you seen any studies that confirm that that that
people are more sexualized or more controllable?
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Oh? Yes, absolutely yes. And in developing that idea, let's
start with his one of his major themes, which will
highlight at this point. He said that what's coming is
sex without reproduction, any production without sex. Now, when he
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said sex without reproduction, he talked about the necessity of
getting children active sexually at an earlier age, but in
such a manner that they don't produce any children, and
therefore all the sexual activity had to be backed up
by abortion. He talked about the need for contraception sterilization
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then with regard to reproduction without sex, and that he
was referring to in vitrio fertilization, so that you could
have reproduction in a laboratory just like what.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Test two babies two babies sure, which, by the way,
I was totally unheard of in sixty nine and wasn't.
Birth control was unheard of in sixty nine, abortion was
illegal in sixty nine. These things were unheard of in
sixty nine, but even in eighty eight they were. These
were far off thoughts of test two babies. Am I correct?
Speaker 5 (24:22):
That's absolutely correct, Yes, And in connection with the he
was he emphasized that these IVF babies, these new babies,
would be since people would only be limited to two children,
they didn't want to have a child that they would
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have to pay too much attention to who had let's say,
who had a disability, for example, the downs child or
a child with hemophilia or so forth. So the process
then be if you had IVF, you could weed out
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defectives and therefore the two child family, which would be
the standard family, the true child family would then have
its two perfect children and not have to worry about
any discomforts or having to pay attention to a disabled child.
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So you had This was again his theme, sex without reproduction,
reproduction with fsex. Then he moved on to one of
the points that was made in the memo in the
Berlin Sin Jaffe memo, and that was I'm reading the
memo now, encourage increased homosexuality. Well, okay, the speech. Day's
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speech occurred on May excu say, March tenth, nineteen sixty nine.
I'm sorry, March twentieth, nineteen sixty nine. And do you
recall when the stone Wall riots were not specifically now,
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June nineteen sixty nine. June nineteen sixty nine, we had
the stone Wall in riots and supposedly this was the
beginning of the gay liberation movement, if you carry, if
you followed the media, this was the day that you know,
the homosexuals decided to all come out. Well, that story
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is an absolute fabrication because the stone Wall riots didn't
have anything to do really with the transvestites and their problems.
The stone Wall Inn was organized, was a establishment of
organized crime, and it was a favorite spot for Wall
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Street clients to visit. And what happened is they had
an upper room in the inn where they produced blackmailible
materials against their Wall Street clients. And the FBI was
called into the case along with the New York State
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Police because these bonds and stocks were appearing on the market,
but these were still and there was a question mark
of what was behind the stolen stocks and barns, and
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they actually traced some of the stocks and bonds to
the stone wall in so they decided to invade the inn.
They rated it. But that wasn't what the American public herd.
The American public herd was. They came down on homosexuals
and there was this rebellion and the revolution for homosexuality
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was born. That was all myth.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Let me interrupt you for one second. Listeners should recall
detective Jim Rothstein, who was one of the investigators who
were involved in that investigation, who would described that there
was pedophilia going on there and chow pornography going on there.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
And like, I know, Jim, by the way.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Well there you go, okay, Okay, I don't own a
family here, Okay, all right, so and then this confirms it.
Then okay, because we had him on too, so yeah,
continue continue, okay.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
Then doctor Day went on to talk about, oh, here
here's an interesting aspect. And I'm sure if there's if
you have a listeners sixty five and older, their little
point of ears are going to shoot up. Doctor Day
said that he reiterated the theme he didn't say this,
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but there's a theme and planned parent who is saying,
no birth control without death control. So when you cut
the population at one end, you're going to have to
cut it at the other end. So if you cut
the number of children born and you have a population
that's dependent on social security, then you're likely to want
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to cut the numbers of elderly that you have on
social security. So doctor Day talked about the issue of
euthanasia and he used the term. He said, what we're
going to have is called he said, I'll call it
a Jemaize pill. A Jemai's pill is where a person
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isn't contributing to society anymore, and society will let him
know that it's time to shuffle off. And so you
have a party. The family will have a party for him,
and the next day he goes to a demise center.
He is killed by injection and everyone is relieved they
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don't have to pay uh anything more for his control.
And the parent, the children have been conditioned that this
is this is a benefit for society, and so you
have you have this whole demise pill. And doctor Denagan said,
you listen to this guy. Here are doctors they're supposed
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to be preserving life and you're healing hearing this doctor
talk about the demise pill, and he said he Doctor
Denagan said he was really his mind was just flying
when he heard all this talk. Well, what about what.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Was his reaction to the people around him? What were
the people around what was their reaction when they had
you heard this before? It was just like, oh, yeah,
we know about this, Well this.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Is probably this is one of the questions. I asked
him right out flat, even before I had left the office.
I said, do people react as you did? I mean
with a scribbling notes? He said, he said no. He said,
first of all, the Pittsburgh meeting that year was at
the Lamont, which in Pittsburgh. It's probably one. It's on
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top of Mount Washington. It's it's right, it's an exquisite hotel.
And he said they had already been drinking uh in
the uh earlier and they had this big dinner. And
he said when he was writing notes, he looked around
and everyone was kind of in a post not estate.
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They were just they were tired. Uh. And the speech
droned on for almost two hours. Uh So when the
when the talk or the talk was finished. He there
were other people sitting at his table, and they were
kind of semi sleeping. He said to his the fellow
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sitting next to him, he said, did you hear what
that man said? And guy kind of opened his eyes
wide and said, well, what did he say? Doctor said, well,
didn't you hear about the demise pill? And the fellow said, oh,
is that what he said?
Speaker 4 (32:21):
That's fascinating.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
Yeah, it's uh, it's absolutely well, it is incredible. But
as you hear what doctor Dunagan, doctor Day foretold in
nineteen sixty nine, and then you realize that uh and
and everything that has come to past, it's uh, it
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becomes even more incredible. Would you like to discuss now
his prediction that there would be new diseases.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Before we get to that, because another bullet point here,
his course would be forced up, so that won't be
able to afford to go without insurance. Again, this was
unheard of in sixty nine, unheard of in sixty nine,
but even in ninety eight, you know what.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
I'm old enough to remember the insurance man coming. We
were relatively poor, but my father didn't have insurance, of course,
and I can remember the monthly visits I don't know
if you call that, but there would the insurance agent
would come to your home, would pick up your premium payment,
and then would be off. But insurance was not tied
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to the workplace. But doctor Day said in nineteen sixty
nine that insurance would be tied to the workplace. It
wasn't in sixty nine, but it was as the years
progress and today, if you you know, if you don't
have insurance, you're you're you're not going to do too
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well because the cost of medical care is so high
that well it's one of the reasons. But so he
talked about these new diseases that would be incurable, that
would come out of nowhere, and we heard that on
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the tape. I thought to myself he mentioned AIDS, and
doctor Dunagan said, no, he wasn't very specific. He he
just said, he just made the statement there will be
new diseases, they will be incurable, and they'll come out
of the blue. He didn't mention AIDS, but in his
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mind later when AIDS appeared, doctor Dunagan, again referring back
to the day speech, thought, is this one of the
diseases that doctor Day mentioned.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Before? We get that?
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Yeah, I mean Okay, here's a doctor, doctor day talking
to a group of doctors, and one of the things
he told talked about was that there are new medications
which can simulate real heart attacks. And he talked and
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what he was referring to, he said that there are
new methods of assassination. So now how he fell upon
that information? You know, you have to feel that and
acknowledge the fact that one man couldn't possibly have heard
all this at one time, at one place, even though
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he was delivering a speech which gave everything at one time.
So you had to believe that doctor g Gunn, again
being close to the Rockefellers, was at these meetings when
these things were just asked. And as we go on
and talk about the other things, it becomes evident that
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one man couldn't have I mean, his specific knowledge was
in the area of pediatrics. How did he know so
much about medicine and insurance and all the rest of
the other topics that we're going to talk about. He
had to have heard it.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
People should know that I'm fifty five years old. Okay,
So in sixty nine, we still had house calls. The
doctor would come to your house with his little bag
when you were sick. Okay, So this idea of needing
insurance an astronomy because my family, we were poor, we
lived in the Bronx. That there would be astronomical courts
for health health care was unheard of back in those days.
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And then he talks about here the need for identification
would start in small ways, hospitals and business, and gradually
expand to include everybody in all places. Again, back in
sixty nine, not everybody had to show your papers. We
didn't even sold security cards. You didn't get them at
birth back then. You got them when you got your
first job, when you were eighteen years old.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
So that's also also if you look at your old
security card, at least online, it said that this was
not to be used as a method of identification. That
was a congressional law.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
I think it still says it on I believe it
or not, it doesn't matter, right.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Edward.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
Now let's move on to an area that I think
will interest much one because he talked about the role
of religion in the new World order, and if I
found I'm a judicial Catholic, I found this to be
probably the most upsetting of all his predictions. But he
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said the old religions would have to go, and I
think he was talking about here specifically about Catholicism, Judaism,
and probably Muhammonism, so I think those are probably the
ones he referred to, though he wasn't very specific on
(37:55):
what he was talking about, and he talked he said,
these religions are going to go, but people like religion,
so the New World Order is going to give them,
isn't the new world or the generous They're going to
give them a new religion which will be a synthesis
of all these traditional religions wrapped up because people need
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this kind of stuff and if they really need it,
the New World Order is going to give it to them.
Among the things he said was, for example, he said
the Bible would be changed. It would be changed to
accommodate the upcoming new morality or new immorality has heard
out now. One of the questions I asked doctor Dunaghan
(38:43):
was I'm Catholic. Doctor Dunaghan was Catholic, and I asked
him did he specifically mention the Catholic Church, and doctor
Dunaghan said no, he didn't, but strangely enough, they didn't
exclude it, so I think it was an all encompassing reference,
(39:06):
meaning all the traditional religions, any religion that had roots
that went deep any the Bible, all this stuff would
either be eliminated or would be changed so as to
accommodate the morality or the immorality of this new world order.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
And just think right around that time, in the seventies
and the eighties, all these cults started springing up st scientology,
all these things, these new religions, you know, a New Age,
theories and stuff, all just absolutely these cults. You know
where Jim Jones, you know, and what was it like
the Moonies? You know, all these cults. I don't know
(39:49):
where they became popular. Harry Christniz became hugely popular. Oun't
nowhere and where are they now? All gone? And pretty
much you.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
Know it's yeah, it's and uh, I don't know your
religion ed. But when as as a traditional Catholic, I've
been watching the events as they have descended after the
Second Vatican Council. Now, I don't blame the Second Vatican
(40:19):
Council for everything that has happened in the Church, because
the rot was there long before that. But I do
think that the uh, the Second Vatican Council was kind
of the the point at which the turn became quite
obvious as to what is happening in the church, making
(40:41):
the Catholic Church at this with the nervous order, the
Novist order, the new order. Interesting, isn't it. We have
the new order of the math. They might as well
say we have the new world order of the Math
to be exact. So and so, you know, we and
in the traditional Catholic Church, shoor are really hurting. And
(41:05):
I think there's probably a lot of people out there
that can associate with that feeling.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
Well, I grew up in the Catholic Church, and I
went to Catholic school in the Bronx as a kid,
you know. But then, by the.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
Way, just for the record, I grew up in Mount
fernand right next to the Bronx.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
I could I heard it in your voice. I caught
it early. I caught it early on, But later on
I became a Pentecostal. I'm assembly as a god born
again Pentecostal now is what it became in my late
twenties and still happened. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
So, well, would you like to move on to education?
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Well, boy, yeah, I guess so that's.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
Where we are now right, okay, right? Doctor Day made
this statement. It was like his statement on sex. You know.
He said that children would go to school for longer
periods of time, but they would learn less. And the
first what he was saying is that the young people
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would be dumb down.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
That's so true. And because I have a daughter now,
she's in high school, and compared to when we were kids,
the amount of homework and books they carry back and
forth is just insane. But the kids they don't know
as much as we knew back when we were kids.
They don't know anything about us history or any of
these things. You know. It's a They will spend more
(42:37):
time in school, but they're going.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
To know less, yes, and that has surely come to pass. However,
he said there would be exceptions. There would be private
schools and certain religious schools that would take the elite students,
so not everyone would be dumb down. There would be
a whole class of students who would get the best training,
(42:58):
and therefore they would probably become the leaders of the
new order. So and once regard to education, here's something
that some of these things are so bizarre, but actually
they they've actually come to pass. He said, that in libraries,
(43:19):
that the classics would disappear. Now how he would know
that is beyond you know, I don't know, But I
don't know how long it's been since you spent a
day in your local library. But I one day, when
I was listening to the tape, I decided I just
went down to the local library and I started looking through.
(43:43):
And what I noticed was this was in the eighties,
of the late eighties. That has happened after I had
heard about the talks and everything. And sure enough, if
you go, not only don't the kids read the cla
classics in school, there there are not many of them
(44:04):
left in the libraries. Uh. And and again it drove
home whenever these things were happening after I had met
with doctor Dunaghan.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (44:16):
Every time the bizarre things would occur, I would think
to myself, the day talk and it would just you know,
you'd get rubbed the wrong way, irksome to find this out. Uh.
Let's let's move on to the the urban areas. UH.
Doctor Dunagan had something to say about about the poor,
(44:37):
especially the uh uh the areas of the uh, the
black areas of the community. And he said that it
was necessary that to control these uh, these areas, so
that there would be ghetto swarmed. Every major city would
have a special ghetto area where the law of the
(45:01):
jungle could take place without too much discomfort for anyone
outside the ghetto. And it would be you know, doggie
dog And they would have drugs, and he said the
drug use actually would be encouraged for certain elements of
the population. So there we have. And then he also
(45:22):
said they'd be increased gambling. So in other words, the
poor or the poorer of us. And here I'm not
talking about poor in spirit, I'm just talking about economically speaking,
that they would be forced to live in a jungle situation. Again,
(45:45):
the audience didn't seem to react. Doc Jenning in steady.
He looked around and nothing.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
Yeah, and even in eighty eight, the gambling laws they
had just started Atlantic City around eighty six, I guess
was the eighty seven. So again, you know, prophetic if
this was back in sixty nine, incredible.
Speaker 5 (46:09):
Yeah, Well here comes the real incredible one. He talked
about national security. Now, what would a pediatrician normally know
about national security unless he was attached to the Rockefellers,
who are pretty much in on everything at the ground level.
Doctor Day said that in order to make this system
(46:32):
really go, it was necessary to instill a feeling of
fear in the general population, and he talked about that
need that how do you bring this about? And then
he specifically mentioned that we have terrorism. We're going to
(46:55):
have terrorism abroad, but we would bring home that terrorism
if necessary if it turned out that people weren't moving
in the right direction. In other words, if it looked
like people were recalcitranted about winning this new world system,
they would bring terror home, which they did, because he
(47:17):
said it's necessary for people for the people to look
at the world as a dangerous place, because if they
look at it as a dangerous place, then they're going
to trade their rights for security. And isn't that what
has happened To a large extent, We've been asked to
(47:38):
give up rights to privacy, many rights in because of
the you know, the reality of terrorism, both abroad and
in the United States.
Speaker 4 (47:53):
Yeah, and we have constant terrorizing situations, school shootings, all
these crazy events happening all the time, you know, creating terror.
And it's well, even lately there's been a couple of
train wrecks in the past the two in one month,
you know, big ones. So yes constantly.
Speaker 5 (48:11):
Yes, he didn't talk about train wrecks, but he did
talk about the economy. Now he was. He gave some
explicit details on the US economy. He said, it's already
been decided that the United States is going to export
its heavy industry. You got that. Here's one man, and
(48:32):
he's saying that he knows that in nineteen sixty nine,
the US is going to be exporting heavy industry. And
he said the United States have absorbed enough pollution and
it's time for the third world to absorb their share.
And he said very specifically that he was in Pittsburgh
(48:57):
and he mentioned sixty nine. He said that, well, the
United States specifically is going to be a service and
technology center for information and also an agricultural center, so technology, service, information, agriculture.
(49:19):
He said that the steel mills in Pittsburgh would go.
Now in nineteen sixty nine, you could drive right by
on a parkway and look over your left shoulder and
see the huge steel mills that Pittsburgh once had. That's
why they call it the Pittsburgh Steelers. We were the
city that made steel, and of course that's all gone. Now, well,
(49:44):
the steel mills are all gone, except for there's a
skeleton industry left in the city. But we are guess
what service technology information. That's what they gave us. That's
our place in life. It's first place in life. And
every major city has been given a specific chore to accomplish.
(50:09):
I guess as as they have been. You know, it's
all been dictated. It's all down, and so Pittsburgh meets
that exact description. Okay, here's an interesting one. Sports. The
use of sports. He said, sport can be used as
(50:30):
a method of social control. And what he zeroed in
on specifically was that since we had we want to
reduce reproduction, we want to reduce the population. He said,
it's necessary to get girls, very young girls, to stop
(50:52):
thinking about baby dolls and serving tea. He said, you
got to get girls into a sway, see sports suits
and get them out there, and they should be doing
the same thing as boys are. They shouldn't be a
dainty deputan stling around. He said, you got to get
the girls away from anything that resembling motherhood and having
(51:17):
babies and get them interested in sports. And he predicted
that he said, in the future, you'll see that the
girls' sports will be on the same page and given
the same highlight as boys sports, and then sports and
do you know what ed have you so fid your
(51:38):
sports sheet lately?
Speaker 4 (51:40):
Actually? No, I gave up on that long time.
Speaker 5 (51:42):
Okay, every once in a while I do. And we
have several local papers and I can't tell you the
numbers of times I smile. And here we are, you know,
the front page right aside the boy's basketball, you have
the girls basketball. It's you know, the sports are pushed
(52:05):
and not the individual sports which will give a girl grace,
for example, gymnastics, other swimming, things that would produce in
a woman a beautiful feminine figure, would be in tune
with her feminine nature or so forth. That's gone those
days ago. And they want that sweaty suit kid right
(52:27):
in there, you know, challenging the fellas for sports news space.
Speaker 4 (52:34):
Do you okay, do you remember this is nineteen sixty
nine you gave the speech. Do you remember what happened
in nineteen seventy three? The Battle of the Sex is
Bobby Riggs and Billy Jean King, Which was I thought
it was. It was a big giant splash, had so
much publicity. Everybody was talking about it and what was
(52:55):
it all about? A battle of the sexes, women's liberation
and involved in sports. And you want to know something else,
we had on the nephew of Frank Sturgis, the Watergate burglar.
He was involved in fixing that for the gamblers. He
was involved in rigging it. Okay, So he also has
(53:16):
that kind of connection to the Nixon Whitehouse and Rockefells
and all that kind of stuff. Just so just in incredible.
What is in this document? I can't think it of
Randy and I'm enjoying it so much.
Speaker 5 (53:26):
Well, let's see, because we're talking about sports, doctor Day
gave us a look into the future on entertainment in general.
He said the music would become more vulgar, he said,
and sexually explicit. He said they wouldn't be love songs,
they would be hard rock. And then he talked about
(53:52):
entertainment in terms of movies and he mentioned videos. Well,
that's interesting because we didn't own videos in nineteen sixty nine.
Some of us had just gotten TV sets. But he
knew that they would be videos. And he said the
videos would bring the pornography into the home.
Speaker 4 (54:14):
Oh, how do you write even in eighty eight, videos
weren't that popular to be talking about that.
Speaker 5 (54:21):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (54:22):
Yeah, we had a video machine in the early eighties,
but there's still in eighty eight and not a lot
of people had them.
Speaker 5 (54:28):
And he said, as far as the movies go, there
would be more sex, more violence, and more vulgar language.
Speaker 4 (54:36):
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Homosexuality and the Roman Catholic Church. She's got another book too.
We'll have her back, One Day's Sex Education, The Final Plague.
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But we've been discussing this document. This a suspicious lecture
given by a doctor day way back in nineteen sixty
nine that she's transcribed and has it on her website
away you could find it. It's a US Coalition for
Life U s c L dot info. UH so, Randy Angle,
where did we leave off? I think, well, boy, I.
Speaker 5 (01:01:11):
Was going to say that as as you have already said.
The transcript of the day speech by doctor Dunagan. It's
it's online and it's free. And when your listeners go
to the u s CL dot info website, what they'll
find is that in the upper left hand corner is
(01:01:36):
the research Library. Uh. They go to the Research Library
and it is the third list distribution, uh, and they
can read everything that I've been talking about and more
because we've there's many subjects that we didn't talk about
that day, droned on and talked about for two hours
(01:01:57):
in his talk. And so I hope you listeners, I
think they owe it not only to themselves, but I
think they owe it to their children to take a look,
to print out the things, and to make an object
of discussion in their families, because this is where the
(01:02:17):
resistance to the New World Order begins. It begins with
the family, which is the you know, the heart of
love and the heart of really the world. So I
hope they'll drew that. Just just go to the website
and look at it. It'll take you a couple of
(01:02:38):
hours to read through print it out and circulate it.
Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
I agree with you, And it's so important because such
drastic change when you read this document, this lecture, there
have been so much drastic change in such a short
period of time. Like one of the things I was
talking about was that people will be living together outside
of marriage and no one will think any of goven Absolutely,
(01:03:05):
even in eighty eight that was unheard of, you know
what I mean. In the eighties, it was unheard of.
They had that TV show Three's Company and there were
roommates and it was a scandal. You know, it was
a scandalous TV show. And you know you said about
the music, the music today stinks. You can't even enjoy it,
and it's.
Speaker 5 (01:03:23):
All really music, It's just loud noise.
Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
Yeah, so what is the next But after the music
we were talking about, Uh.
Speaker 5 (01:03:33):
Let me see, that was pretty much. That's pretty much
it that I'd like to cover now. But this actually,
you know, when we were talking earlier, I told you
that that memo from Jeffrey to Berlinson about population control,
it's interesting that they picked out that the fact that
(01:03:57):
they wanted to encourage home of sexuality, which you know
that that very statement that you can actually manipulate people
to experiment sexually, especially the young, uh with with sterile,
perverted sex. That's these people are are. I'm not even sure.
(01:04:26):
They have no regard for the for the human being,
and certainly no regard for the family. They're very interested
in destabilizing the family again, because if you have people
without roots, without morals, they are in fact that I
don't think I have to produce any data. I think
it's just common sense that these type of individuals will
(01:04:49):
be easy to recruit to the new world order.
Speaker 4 (01:04:54):
It's so true, you know, and the whole homosexuality has
become so accepted and encouraged, and either with these TV
shows now, all these transgender little kids being brought up,
is sex unheard of? Just a show time?
Speaker 5 (01:05:12):
Well, that's part of the reason why about maybe fifteen
or let's see, would have been about twenty years ago,
I noticed and I had information that there was an
increase in homosexuality within the Catholic clergy. And there was
(01:05:37):
a book produced in nineteen eighty two. I don't know
if you recall. It didn't get really large circulation. It
was never a real popular book, but it was called
The Homosexual Network, and it was by a priest working
for the Free Congress in Washington, DC, and his name
was Father Ruweda. Father Rueda wrote an excellent book which
(01:06:06):
was about the growth of homosexuality in not only in
the Catholic Church, but in the Protestant churches as well
as in the dagogues. And I read that book, and
when I was reading true one thing that took my
immediate attention was the fact that the names the bunny
(01:06:35):
were mentioned in Ruweda's book were also happened to be
mentioned in the first book I ever wrote, which was
called sex Education The Final Plague. And I had always
one of the things when I was writing this book
was I couldn't quite understand why we're all this pressure
(01:06:57):
to initiate children younger and younger into the sexual sphere.
And when I was reading Ruwaida's book and he was
mentioning the same people who were promoting sex homosex sex education,
then I thought maybe I better take a second look
at it. So in the late eighties early nineties, I
(01:07:21):
started to conceive of a book on homosexuality in the
Catholic Church, and approximately seventeen years later, two thousand and six,
I published a book called the Right Asodomy, and by
the way, that's rite, not right. And the title comes
(01:07:44):
from one of the stories that I was investigating. It
was the story of a young altar boy who was
assaulted on the altar of a Catholic church just in
the tabernacle. And the story is so horrific that it
(01:08:06):
made a deep impression on me. But the worst impression
that was made upon me was the when the priest
was finished assaulting the young boy, he said to him,
now you are one of us. And that phrase stayed
(01:08:30):
with me. So when it came time to title the book,
I titled it the Right Asotomy. Now. The original book
was thirteen hundred pages. It was a real tome, and
on the third printing I made a drastic move. And
what I did was I took the thirteen hundred pages
and put them into five separate volumes by subject and
(01:08:54):
that made it easier to handle, and I think the
reader really appreciated it. So anyway, the it's a five
volume set now and you can if you want information
on it, you can go to a New Angle Publishing
UH dot com. UH. The the first volume has to
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do with research into homosexuality all the way from antiquity
all the way back to the Greeks and the Romans,
all the way through the Cambridge Spies. And in that
that volume I deal with all sorts of of of characters,
the Oscar wild uh, andre gid uh Tchaikowski uh and
(01:09:47):
all the way back to the time of the Greeks,
especially the Spartans, and what that whole idea of Volume
one is to give people some background. You really can't
tell where we are now in society with regard to
homosexuality unless you can remember or research back and see
(01:10:12):
what place homosexuality has had in civilized society all the
way back to the to ancient times. And the bottom
line is, of course, that there's no civilized society who
has ever thought of homosexuality as being normal. Heterosexual reality
(01:10:35):
is the norm for our species. The human species is
and reproduces in a heterosexual manner. So that whole volume,
I think is it makes a good introduction to what's
to follow. Then we have Volume two. Volume two is
(01:10:58):
on it's probably the most sexually explicit of all the volumes,
and especially important it was written I had. When I
wrote the second volume, I wrote it really for parents,
because parents have to learn how to protect their children
from the homosexual predator, especially of course if they're boys,
(01:11:21):
and from the lesbian predators if they're women. So in
this second volume we deal with the homosexual in two ways.
The first way is to look at the homosexual as
an individual, to study the causes of homosexuality and so forth.
(01:11:44):
The second part of that volume has to do with
the collective, that is the whole gay liberation movement. Now, ed,
do you know what the sign the original sign of
the gay liberation movement? It was back in late nineteen sixties. No, okay,
(01:12:05):
it was the raised twist, which is the communist fist
in the rectum. That was the uh. That was the
sign for the gay liberation movement, and it's uh. It
gives parents the information that they need to protect their
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children from from specifically boys, from the predators, the predators
whether they be their peers or whether they're as is
usually the case, older men, and of course that that
criminal activity has always been referred to as pederasty. The
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Greeks practice pederaste, the Romans practice pederastry, but it's it's
never been a norm. And there's also a special section
again that parents need to know about the move towards
inner generational sexts. Lately, there's been more emphasisan to the
(01:13:16):
rights of the pedophile the rights of the pediast. The
only difference, the main difference between the two is that
the pedophile usually is attracted to very young children and
engages in infantile sexual activity or simply voyeurism. But when
(01:13:37):
you getting to the pediast, you have kind of a
horse of a different color. When you're getting into the
men and the young adults who attack young boys, then
you're looking at crimes that are committed on these young boys,
but that these crimes are a adult nature, sodomy and
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different types of perverse activities on the child parents. You know,
it used to be parents didn't need this information because
the chances of them running into a pediast was so
far away. In fact, people didn't know really much about
homosexuality at all in the time when before the movement
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went universal. But these days parents do need to know
a lot more than they do and to protect their children.
Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
And so let me ask you this.
Speaker 5 (01:14:38):
That's probably the basis for the second volume.
Speaker 4 (01:14:40):
When I was grown up, homosexually was illegal. By the way,
you could be arrested for for homosexual activity. They would
have they would actively investigate that kind of thing. But
I guess the theory was it was also considered a
mental illness, right, and the theory was that you had
a weak father and an overbearing mother and and that
would be the cause of it. What do you what
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did you come up with?
Speaker 5 (01:15:05):
Well, there are multiple causes, uh and much depends upon
the nature uh and constitution of the child. But actually
it's one of the interesting things about having read the
first volume before you read the second is the fact
that if you look at the lives of very famous
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public homosexuals like Oscar Wilde, Andre Greed and France, you'll
see that there is there's actually much, uh much what
should I say, uh much evidence to show that what
you described the domineering mother and the impotent father, there's
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a lot to that. But there are other factors as well.
For example, a pattern of self abuse by the young person.
That is one indication. Another indication is if the child
has been sexually seduced, especially if he's been sexually seduced
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by an older male. So it's an education. Volume two
is an education for parents. I'm sorry that this information
isn't even has to be given out in books, much
less on the air. But these days you really need
to know how to protect your children. And the second
(01:16:40):
volume pretty much tells all. It tells everything that the
media won't tell you about causes of homosexuality and about
the nature of the homosexual death style. It's not a lifestyle.
These guys aren't living. They're really immersed in a vice
(01:17:02):
which and the homosexual collective they don't want people leaving
the movement, so they'll do everything they can to stop
people from exiting. There are people homosexuals who have left
that and who have gone on to uh adopt a
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uh there a natural lifestyle in terms of their sexual
activity and so forth. A heterosexual acts and so forth.
So you can't escape the life the death style, but
the collective doesn't make it easy for you.
Speaker 4 (01:17:47):
It's statistically, a person in a homosexual lifestyle will have
increased contact with the police, increased criminal records, increase assaults,
increase domestic violence cases, increased alcoholism, drug addiction, all these suicides,
all these things are attached to homosexuality. It's statistically.
Speaker 5 (01:18:10):
You know, in in the section that I just mentioned,
there is a there's a whole section there on domestic violence. Now,
I think when your listeners hear domestic violence, they I
think will normally associate maybe an aggressive male attacking a woman.
(01:18:32):
But actually the majority of of when you're looking at
the homosexual situation, of course, you have the uh the
uh situation of two males. So you have two aggressive
males and when they fight it out over some unimportant
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little event which leads to murder and decapitation and all
sorts of violent acts. This this is this is what
happens in the homosexual community. It also happens with with
the lesions. So the reason I'm saying that is because
you never hear you if you go on the website,
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if you type in homosexual domestic violence, you will be unindicated.
And in the book, I have case studies of the homosexuals,
both male and female, who are or assaulted by their partners.
And so this is reality. But of course the media
will never they won't go and give the their readers
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or their listeners or people watching TV. They won't tell
you about domestic violence in the in the homosexual community.
They block it out because to describe I have this
described the violence that you just stated there that would
be considered homophobic, right.
Speaker 4 (01:20:07):
Right, And the statistics are there, you know, you can't
deny them. And I say live and let live to
whatever you want. You know, I don't want to impose
my beliefs on anybody else, but but the statistics are there. Now,
what about the thing about the claim that, well, that
there is no greater propensity for pedophilia and pederacy amongst
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homosexual that it's equal, uh of this pedophilia between both
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (01:20:34):
Okay, yeah, I know exactly. In other words, what the
media will tell you is there's no relationship between an
adult homosexual relationship and uh, the abuse of minors. Right Hey,
that pretty well sums it up. Well. Of course, this
is absolutely sheer nonsense, and the homosexuals would be the
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first to tell you if they were wanted to tell
you the truth. And if you think I'm not telling
the truth, what I invite the listener to do is
to go to any bookstore where they have homosexual directories
or dictionaries. There's a one of the most popular homosexual
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books is a lexicon. It's called the Queen's Language, and
in it it gives you the Uh, it gives you
vernacular homosexual language. And when you open up and started
start to read what this dictionary or what the selectionary
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has in it, you will see that there is very
a definite connection between homosexuality and tenterasty, that is the
abuse of young boys by adult men, which is really
what the hub of the scandal is in the Catholic chure.
And it's not just uh related to the Catholic Church. Uh.
(01:22:04):
Wherever you have young boys, whether it's summer camp, whether
it's the boy Scouts, whether it's older boys in the
Catholic service or Episcopalian services, you're going to have these
these predators. Now, a pediast uh isn't Uh. He may
(01:22:27):
have had relations with older men uh or his peers,
but at some point in his life. Uh, they're generally
going to have an attraction to either a young older
teen or a teen that is just entering puberty. And
(01:22:49):
so if you're looking at this this lectionary on the
Queen's language, you'll see terms like a chicken or the chicken.
Chicken isn't something you have for dinner. A chicken in
the lexicon of the homosexual, of course, is a child
that is under the age of consent. You'll have there's terminology,
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if the terminology of this whole group grouping of homosexuals
who are interested in Some of them are interested also
in adult men, but there are some who are specifically
interested in young teen boys, and these are the This
has become the plague, one of the plagues for the
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Catholic Church. So there is an association. If you go
to any large gathering of homosexuals, you will find that
one of the speakers will definitely be talking about the
need to legalize pedophilia and the need to legalize pederastic
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There is a move the movement in the United States
as well as abroad. There's a move to lower the
age of consent. Who's interested in lowering the age of consent? Ed?
Can you answer that question?
Speaker 4 (01:24:15):
Well, I know the age of consent in the Vatican,
Vatican City, it's twelve years old.
Speaker 5 (01:24:23):
The homosexuals are in the pediaste and the pedophiles. They're
all interested in lowering the age of consent so that
they don't have to go to jail. We're engaging in
an activity in which is now labeled criminal. So the
idea that there's no connection between tatterasty homosexuality. That's a
(01:24:46):
myth when it comes to is there a connection between
homosexuality and abuse of very young children? Well, in that category,
in the category of the pedophile, you come, it's a
different ballgame. You come. Most of the abuses of young children,
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whether it's voyeurism or or sexual touching. Uh, that has
to do with these young girls as well as young boys.
This is uh, this is a crime that is mostly
committed by heterosexuals. Uh under different you know, under different
(01:25:35):
conditions depending on the individual. But so but the climes
that that we see now, the crimes that we associate
with homosexuality and pederasty, uh, they are the ones that
you read about in the newspaper. And these are the
same individuals that are are taking uh pictures, you know,
(01:25:58):
pornographic pictures of boys and selling them. Of course you've
got a group that also does that to girls. So
it's a criminal activity. And homosexuals, you know, you talked
about you use the term lifestyle. I try to stop
using that a long time ago because the subculture or
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the anti culture of the homosexual environment is really it
has to do with with violence, and there's nothing life
giving or life saving about that at all.
Speaker 4 (01:26:37):
Now correct me if I'm wrong. The Kinsey report talks about, well,
we've done shows doctor Judith ricebt on twice, we've done
shows about Kenzy my God. But anyway, but the Kinsey
report discusses how I think it's twenty five percent of
homosexual men admit to making sexual advances against underage kids.
(01:26:58):
But that I think that's well.
Speaker 5 (01:27:00):
First of all, Kinsey was was a first class pervert.
He was he engaged in homosexual activity himself. Uh. He
wanted to decriminalize pedophilia. Uh, probably because in his research
he abused very young children and infants to get the
(01:27:20):
data that he was interested in. So uh, well, Kinsey
was a bad dude and uh anything that he came
up with was simply uh. And by the way, who
finance Kinsey Rockville of course relationship with him, this whole
(01:27:41):
thing moving. Kinsey was his his hit man. And uh,
I think so many people in the generation when Kinsey's report,
I mean, he was the uh uh it's not kind
of the brief the precursor to all all that in
more immorality that the New World Order wanted to bring about.
(01:28:06):
So I'm glad you mentioned his name. It gave me
a chance to to enlarge on He had.
Speaker 4 (01:28:13):
An association with Alistair Crowley as well. Okay, but but
the other thing. But to one thing though, and plus
he didn't horrible self mutilation to himself there that you
don't even want to know.
Speaker 5 (01:28:23):
Oh gosh. Yeah. Well, Alistair Crowley is of course in
my book because he uh he he uh. When you
talk about the right of astrotomy, you're talking about Alistair Crawley.
So he's uh, he's he's in the book somewhere. Uh.
(01:28:45):
With regard to the activity that he had with with
the Catholic Church. So what the.
Speaker 4 (01:28:50):
Activity did he have with the Catholic Church? Can you
tell us?
Speaker 5 (01:28:53):
Uh? Yes, he well, no, I can't tell you specifically
because the the story is very specific. But he was
into the occult and there were he had a number
of Catholic followers, and some of those followers attempted to
(01:29:14):
be priests. But at the time, in Alistair Crowley's time,
there was the papacy that was doing their job, and
so he wasn't able to make many advances in the church. Today,
the occult is very much tied into the homosexual activity
(01:29:38):
of the priests and cardinals and bishops.
Speaker 4 (01:29:42):
Now, how did that come about? And when I was
growing up in the Catholic Church, you could see it
had become a haven for homosexuals, homosexual priests. And then
we heard later on and even looking around, I can
think back in my memory and see some kind of
bizarre activity between the priests and some of the kids,
the young boys. But how did this become like this haven?
(01:30:02):
What happened when?
Speaker 5 (01:30:05):
Well that brings us to volume three. Volume three is
called am Church, the American Church, and the homosexual revolution ed.
If you our our listeners, if you were to draw
a timetable from let's say the late eighteen hundreds to
the nineteen hundreds, and you would just visually kind of
(01:30:29):
go straight across the stream, and you made a timetable
which described the homosexual movement and the advances that it
made from that time all the way across to today.
If you did a parallel timeline, you would find that
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the homosexual advances in the Catholic Church parallel those of
the growth of the homosexual movement in society, in law
at large in the United States, so that once the
gay the gay movement got power, which would be in
(01:31:17):
the late sixties early seventies, and this was on the
agenda for the New World Order. Everything that was needed,
the money, the media, everything that was needed to advance
the cause of increasing homosexuality in our society was carried out.
And the priesthood is drawn from young men society at large.
(01:31:44):
So it's no real surprise that you had at the
time that the movement was advancing, especially into the eighties
and the nineties. And they were victory after victory in
the courts. Uh in uh, in the publicity, in the media,
uh talking about just anti discrimination. Uh, the use of
(01:32:08):
the term homophobia, all this the lexicon was being adopted
by the public. It's identical the the advancement of homosexuality
in the church is identical to the timeline of the
secular world.
Speaker 4 (01:32:24):
But then but let me but it's the thing is though,
is there were certain places that were a haven for
this though that it was a safe haven like male
flight attendants. Okay, okay, I think they still are and
it was, but it was accepted. It was a haven
there for them, and the Catholic Church was a haven
for this for homosexualists to go and find employment and
and and work.
Speaker 5 (01:32:46):
Well, actually there actually the screening prior to the Second
Vatican Council, and uh, there was there's a document and
it's it's the document is uh highlighted in the right
Astomy in the Vatican. Even at the time of the
liberal time of Pope John twenty third, there were documents
(01:33:10):
which were in fact in force. This would have been
prior to the document I'm talking about was presented in
promulgated in nineteen sixty one. And that document was very
specific for seminarians and it said that there was to
be screening. You would vet, just like they do in
(01:33:33):
secret service. You would vet the seminarians and if there
was any sign of homosexual behavior, any same sex attraction,
anything like this. If the door of the seminary was
closed and two men were found to be inside at
the time, that meant immediate expulsion. So there were cases
(01:33:59):
of homosexuality in the church. Well, actually there have been
all the way down through the centuries. Homosexuality has popped
his head up. But as far up until the late
nineteen sixties, if a man was found to engage in
homosexual activity, he was expelled. And this was the rule
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not only with the diocesan priesthood. It was also the
rule for the religious orders. But that whole thing changed
in the mid to late sixties when we had the
Second with the Second Vatican Council. We saw that the
discipline and the rules that regulated the seminaries and religious
(01:34:45):
orders and religious houses preparing religious for the priesthood. All
of a sudden, you have homosexuals in the Dominicans, in
the Christian Brothers, and in in my book, in the
fourth volume, as a matter of fact, I do there's
(01:35:05):
a whole section there on the religious orders and how
they were systematically infiltrated. And the one that always comes
to mind is the Christian Brothers. The Christian Brothers was
one of the traditional orders of They were specifically geared
toward young boys. They in the late nineteen sixties early
(01:35:32):
nineteen seventies, they were heavily infiltrated, so much so that
today in many places, in many areas, including the United States,
the order is nearly defunct. It's just decimated by homosexuality. So, yeah,
(01:35:56):
this period any time after I would say nineteen sixty five,
when you had the loosening of all the rules that
included the end of bedding for the priesthood. As in
terms of eliminating homosexuals and pediast from the clergy. And
(01:36:21):
today we have just the opposite situation. If you get
a normal male who's seminary, and they're going to have
a difficult time in most seminaries because the seminaries are
dominated in most cases by the homosexual clicks that exists there.
Speaker 4 (01:36:39):
Yeah. I heard from a source back when in Boston
where that big scandal was going on up there in Boston,
that in the seminaries, these priests would have like backstreet boys,
like these boy bands, posters on their walls. It was
open that they had an attraction to men and boys.
Speaker 5 (01:36:57):
Yes, because what happened is when the religious well in
order on the timeline, the religious orders were the first
group to be infiltrated. This The latter group, which was
the diocesan priesthood, came after the UH, came after the
(01:37:19):
religious orders. And and that's that's kind of logical if
you understand the religious orders UH, male religious orders UH.
And and this goes, by the way, also true for
the lesbians that have invaded the UH, the houses of
religious for women. Now, no one, I don't I haven't
heard anyone ever bring up the discussion of lesbianism in
(01:37:43):
the houses of women religious but it is truly a
major problem, particularly since you have these women libers who
have taken over so many of the houses for uh
for nuns. So it's really a very difficult situation, and
(01:38:04):
I hope that I haven't made it complicated by too
complicated by going into details. And that's why the Right
Astrotomy is thirteen hundred pages when you put all the
volumes together, because it's not a simple yes or no.
It's not a gray black situation, but it is documented,
and there are thirteen thousand footnotes, So I'm sorry, three
(01:38:28):
thousand footnotes to document all the information that I put out.
Speaker 4 (01:38:37):
Let me ask you this, the child molestation that goes
on in the Catholic Church seems to be beyond the average,
you know, like it seems to be like a extreme.
And when you hear these stories, some of these priests
who have molested two hundred kids, three hundred kids, seven
hundred kids, that's more than an average person, the average
ten person's sexual activity, sexual partners in their life. What
(01:39:00):
is it that it's the demonic thing that's driving them
to target these children and steal their innocence.
Speaker 5 (01:39:08):
Well, let me let me correct you on one point.
I don't know if you heard, but the there's a
Royal Commission that's been going on in Australia and New Zealand,
and the Royal Commission, I think it's maybe it's either
(01:39:30):
eight or ten years old. I followed that commission from
the time it started all the way through Jilla gave
its final report, which was last year, and they did
a The commission was assembled to research child abuse, child
(01:39:51):
sexual abuse male and female in Australia, in New Zealand,
and to recommend to establish what the causes were, to
recommend the answer some of some of the solutions. And
what you'll find is if you read the report, that
(01:40:14):
there isn't one religion, whether it be Mauslem, whether it
be Seven day Adventists, whether it be the Salvation Army,
whether it be the Roman Catholic Church or the Episcopal Church.
There are cases of child sexual abuse, mainly boys and
(01:40:35):
girls in every denomination. Because these predators, they don't necessarily
have to be wearing a collar. Uh. These you know,
they do all kinds of grooming, uh. And when they're
when the when this all occurs in different in the
(01:40:55):
different religions. It's because that's where the children are. If
the pediasque wants to find boys, he's a pederasque priest,
they're right there. They're the all too boys and the
young boys that are in Catholic camps. If the man
is not a priest, where does he go. He goes
(01:41:16):
over to the boy scouts, he goes over to the
boys camps. Wherever the children are, that's where the pediasque
will be. That's the rule. And so it's up to
parents to be to be knowledgeable and to understand how
this whole operation works, how grooming works, and so forth.
(01:41:38):
Now getting back to the Catholic priesthood, the Episcopal Church
is also suffering greatly from the homosexual reality and the pederaste.
What you're finding is that because there is more there
(01:41:59):
are more homosexuals in the Catholic Church than there used
to be, there are more cases of of pederasty and
pedophilia in in the church. And that means that, for example,
in the Episcopal Church, if there are more homosexual priests
(01:42:24):
the Episcopal Church, you're going to have more cases of
child abuse boys in there. Wherever that's the link. Wherever
you have more homosexuals, you're going to have more cases
of sexual abuse. And you know, child sexual abuse is
nothing new. One of the findings of the of the
(01:42:50):
Royal Commission in Australia was that child abuse is we
haven't talked a great deal about it because it's been
it's been largely covered up. Sex abuse in any institution
is a major scandal, and scandals are by nature you
(01:43:14):
want to cover them up. So that so many of
these crimes that have occurred in the past were simply
covered up, whereas today I think parents so more alert.
I think everyone the victims have heard of cases, so
that it's more likely to show up in court and
(01:43:35):
in the criminal thing. So it's only because we have
a dominant homosexual clergy in the church that we have
this pederaste problem. If you want to solve the problem
of the church of sexual abuse, mindly of young boys,
(01:43:56):
then the idea is to cleanse the priests good of
these homosexuals. And that was going to solve the problem
of the homosexual. The homosexual pediaste makes sense.
Speaker 4 (01:44:10):
Yeah, well, it doesn't seem like there's any any effort
being made to do that. It's exact opposite, and especially
in exactly right.
Speaker 5 (01:44:16):
That's the problem we face today. I can pipe mainly
from as a Catholic. Uh, if there's anything, there's going
to be more pederaste and more abuse because we've got
an occupant in the chair of Peter who favors homosexuality.
So again, parents, you've got to take it. It's your responsibility.
(01:44:41):
They're your children. Don't expect anybody else to look after them.
I think that the days of you know, the days
of sleepovers, the days of sending off your boy or
girl to camp. I think I think those days are over.
You've got to keep track of your children. You've got
to keep track of who they are associate with and
(01:45:01):
adults who are associating with them.
Speaker 4 (01:45:04):
That's so true because I remember when I was a kid,
summer camp that was a haven again too for abuses
and stuff going on. But what about today The public
school system appears now to be a haven for homosexual teachers. Oh,
it always has been.
Speaker 5 (01:45:21):
It always has been. Actually, if you want to really
look at the schools with the highest rate of pederaste,
you would look at the boys well, and also with
lesbianism with the girls, with the boarding schools, sending your
child off to boarding school is not really a good
idea these days, because again, where are the pediaste Where're
(01:45:45):
the pedophiles? Where do the child abusers go they go?
Where the kids are? Where are the kids? A number
of them are in boarding school, boarding schools, orphanages, camps.
Wherever children are there, you're going to find the predator
seeking their prey.
Speaker 4 (01:46:06):
Randy Angel, we're talking about the right asodomy, homosexuality, and
the Roman Catholic Church. You can also check out her
website US Coalition for Life uscl dot info. We got
about ten minutes left, a little bit less. How would
you like to best use this time? What would you
like to bring up next?
Speaker 5 (01:46:26):
Well, let me see, I'm not sure. I was thinking.
Do you have any questions in mind that you think
your audience might be asking if they had the chance.
Speaker 4 (01:46:40):
Is there anything left that we didn't cover in this
book The right aside me?
Speaker 5 (01:46:45):
Let me see. Oh, yes, as a matter of fact,
there is. Well, you know, the media generally talks about
homosexuality within the religious life, or they'll talk about priest
when when uh, there are two things. When I talk
(01:47:07):
about infiltration, we have evidence based on materials that have
been gleaned through researching ex communist papers and so forth,
that the that there was a specific move on the
(01:47:30):
behalf of the Soviet Union to infiltrate the Catholic clergy,
and when this move was taking place, Bella Dodd talked
about it. Remember that the Bella Dodd was a ex
Communist who broke ranks and gave the State Department and
(01:47:55):
the US Congress oldest information on the Communist infiltration of America.
Speaker 4 (01:48:02):
Never heard the name before, now, okay, her.
Speaker 5 (01:48:05):
Name is Bella Dodd. You can read her book on UH.
I forgot what the title is. Has to do with
darkness b L l A d O double d uh.
Bella Dodd UH was a convert from a Bishop Sheen
and UH. She came into the Catholic Church and she
(01:48:30):
relates that one of the one of her tasks as
a communist top Communist agent in the United States was
to see that the clergy, both the Protestant and the
Catholic clergy were infiltrated by Communist agents. And she uh
(01:48:53):
said that she personally placed I'm not sure of the number,
but it was over a thousand a thousand communists in
American Catholic and Protestant seminaries. The Protestant seminaries were easier
to infiltrate because of the looser connections uh the Catholic churchary.
(01:49:19):
The seminarians for the Church were more difficult, but they
infiltrated not only the American clergy, the clergy around the world,
and they had agents within the Vatican. Now what's significant
about this particular area of infiltration by the Communists is
when they went to recruit asients who were willing to
(01:49:41):
at least act out celibacy because that was the rule
and is the rule for Catholic priests. They didn't get
many recruits. So most of the individuals who were recruited
by Bella Dodd and placed into the Catholic Catholic seminaries
were homoste sexuals, So that was a point of interest.
(01:50:04):
The second point was that the Vatican has its own
problem with homosexuality that has infected the curia. It has
infected all of the in germs of the Catholic hierarchy.
Here in the United States, we have the remember ed
(01:50:28):
we were talking about that timetable the infiltration. The infiltration
began at the turn of the century, so that we
have rather well known cardinals were in fact homosexuals. The
two that are documented in the book were Cardinals Spellman
of New York and before him was the Cardinal William O'Connell,
(01:50:52):
who was one of the was head of the archdiocese
in Boston. And this shows you that prior to the
Second Vatican Council, the infiltration had already begun, whether it
was by the being placed there by Belladod or other
(01:51:14):
Communist agents, or whether it was these these individuals like
Spellman and O'Connell who were seduced when they were young,
or were seduced when they were in the seminary. It's
hard to always tell when these when the seduction occurred
or Howard occurred, or whether it was a family situation.
(01:51:37):
I think in the case of both, it probably was
a family situation, but it encouraged the same sex attraction,
and they brought that homosexual vice right into their archdiocese,
so we have it isn't a coincidence. At the Boston
(01:52:01):
Archdiocese was one of the first to have massive pediast problems,
child abuse problems, and of course that we were dealing
with people that had been installed and there is an
intergenerational issue so you have a homosexual cardinal and then
(01:52:25):
you have individuals that he adopts and brings into his clique,
and that produces at the next level more homosexuals. So
you have this intergenerational pattern not only in the secular sphere,
but you've also got it in the church.
Speaker 4 (01:52:46):
Randy Angel were just about out of time. We've got
a couple of minutes. What do you want to leave
us with? And then then let us know how people
get a hold you and find you and follow up
on your work.
Speaker 5 (01:52:57):
Well. The message on the New Order of Barbarians is
basically that a man proposes and God disposes. God still
controls the world so that there's no reason to despair.
I think it's up to every individual to keep himself
in the state of grace, keep his children in the
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state of grace, do and follow what God will, and
keep close to the altar, keep close to the faith,
and you're going to survive one way or the other,
or even if you're persecuted, they'll you know, you'll leave
this world, but enter a better world. So that's with
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the Order of Barbarians. As far as the homosexual situation goes,
I would encourage specially parents to get that second volume.
Be informed, and that's that's going to help anyone who
is raising young children now or who have children in
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high school college. And I just want to thank you
ED for this opportunity and for your listeners for taking
out the time to listen. It's been an awful lot
of information. And after listening for two hours, say maybe
in a tanatonic stage of like the listeners were for
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Doctor Day. But and they can reach me. I'm always
available by email at r v EE sixty one, at
Comcast dot com, at through New Angle Publishing, or through
US Coalition for Life. Any of those routes will get
you to me and.
Speaker 4 (01:54:41):
Real quick this lecture. Is it available on audio? Can
we still listen to it on audio? Your friend?
Speaker 5 (01:54:46):
Who?
Speaker 1 (01:54:49):
You know?
Speaker 5 (01:54:49):
What? I'm not sure. I've had difficulty of the doctor
Stanley Monteth who made the tapings. He has died and
I have not been able to communicate with his family
to learn how to get more tapes. But if they're interested,
have the the audience member of the audience, they can
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just contact me. I'll take their name and address and
if I'm able to locate these tapes, it's on CDs
and tapes. I'll respond and let them know where they
can get it.
Speaker 4 (01:55:23):
Randy Angle, thank you so much for out of time.
God bless you, hun Go blessed by Oh boy, they
got Randy Angle the right of sonomy, homosexuality and the
Roman Catholic Church. I encourage everyone to go check out
this at UCL dot info and look for this barbarians document.
I'm gonna have it in the member section. I'll have
a link up in a member section with the whole thing,
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the pdf, and also too, I'm gonna have the link
to it in the description on speaker and YouTube. So
check that out, you know, I tell you it's my God.
Many things in his document, this Barbarian's document by this
doctor Gray character, have come to like family court. Okay,
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family court. I'm dealing with a situation right now. I
had a client come to me locally here in Nevada.
He spills out this horrific tale of what's happening to
him in family court and also to corruption within child
protective services. Blatant corruption. Okay. I don't want to give
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too much details on a guy's case. He's not a client,
he's I just gave him some advice, but he came
to me and he says he, I want to come
on air. I want to talk about someone, to expose
the situation. And I had to tell him, no, man,
you don't want.
Speaker 1 (01:56:41):
To do that.
Speaker 4 (01:56:41):
It's just gonna make things worse for you. For him
to come out and tell the truth about what's going on,
what's happening to him, he will only be punished more
and he'll have less contact with his kids. And I had.
What we had to tell him was listen, man, find
out the name of the judge. I'll talk to my people.
We'll find out who's the lawyer for that judge. I
had to send him down the the path of corruption
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in order to have the right lawyer, to have influence
in the courtroom there, to have to get a fair
deal that we you know, like everything's backwards, everything's upside down,
everything is opposite. Bed is good and good as bad.
Speaker 1 (01:57:16):
Now.
Speaker 4 (01:57:16):
I hope people too. I'm going to be doing a
show about my politics, which people don't seem to understand.
So many people will tell me, you know, well, you're
a liberal, ed, you're a liberal. I'm not sure how
people come to that conclusion. Many of my beliefs are conservative, beliefs.
You know, I'm a socialist. I don't believe in giving
(01:57:38):
away half of my paycheck this I'm billionaire, or working
for someone who's not working it with some stockholder, you know,
And I protest those kinds of things. But I object
to unarmed people being shot by police. So I think
that's going to be talking about this this Friday evening
also too. You gotta go through this document. There's all
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stuff here about how you can get any kind of
medical how the medical profession has changed so drastically, and
I don't go to it. I'm healthy, I don't go
to doctor. I don't go to near doctors as much
as they can avot him. And even with my daughter,
you know, when they're a baby, you're taking for those checkups.
You know, I always thought there were a waste of time,
but you know, you take them, me do it. But
since she's broke her foot, which is a reason to
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go to the doctor, dealing with a doctor's office today
is so different than it was even ten years ago.
I'm dumbfounded the way we have to get approval for this,
and we'll go back to insurance company, your approval for
that kid's got a broken foot. You can look at
it and see it's broken. Look the extray is broken. Okay,
(01:58:41):
put a cast on a foot. Oh we got to
get a referral here and approval there. I mean, you
know what the hell? And the days ago and buy
and the kid's lemping around with this temporary cast. If
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