Steven A. Ridley

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's the Opperman Report and now here is investigator.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay, welcome to the Opperman Report. I'm your host, private investigator,
Ed Opperman. You can find me at Opperman Investigations and
Digital Fronts and Consulting if you reach out to me
through my email Oppermaninvestigations at gmail dot com. I got
an old friend, an old friend, then sort of a
new friend. Okay. I've known this guy, stephen A. Ridley

(00:27):
for years. I can't even go back to think how
far known. But we've known each other on Twitter. You
can find him on Twitter there, steven A. Ridley, and
it's spelled the S seven e p h e n.
And then there's a website too with the same thing,
S seven E p h e n dot com. But

(00:47):
so Twitter steven A. Ridley, you'll find it that way,
plus this website too as well. Plus he's got this
other thing. It's kind of so like a wiki Wikipedia
kind of thing, right, cool info grenades dot kind of
cool name too, Stephen A. Ridley, Sir. Finally nice to
meet sure man. Tell us you tell me, audience, who

(01:08):
is stephen A. Ridley.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Well? I used to be an information security consultant and researcher.
So I used to travel around teaching people what I
had been researching privately, which is how to basically break
into systems. And I had a specialty and embedded systems
and cell phones, and I even wrote a book about it.
We co edited co authored a book with some fellow

(01:30):
researchers called the Android Hackers Handbook. And I've written a
bunch of papers and all these kinds of things, and
I used to travel around the world speaking on this stuff.
And then and then COVID hit and kind of that
research mind. I even worked into the defense space too
for a little bit, so I kind of was familiar

(01:50):
with that world. But after COVID, I kind of chilled
out for a little bit. I was teaching graduate school
at NYU and their engineer department in why U tanned
in School of Engineering, and I was teaching about reverse
engineering and hacking and embedded systems and stuff. COVID hit.
I could still continue to teach after COVID, but then
I kind of started shifting focus and re catching up

(02:13):
on stuff that I wanted to read and kind of
those things you put off in your adulthood when you're
focusing on your career and I just picked up I
started picking up some of the books, and after that
I kind of took I take the tedious, meticulous and
tedious notes on everything, and so I just wanted to

(02:34):
start sharing bits of my notes with the world. So
I started posting them on Twitter, and then those turn
into threads, and then the websites came about because I
kind of felt like I needed a simpler way to
kind of get the information to people without needing them
to read the same source material, you know what I mean. So,
and then that's how I find shows like yours. And
I'd seen heard of your show before that, obviously the

(02:55):
lockdowns and stuff, but so many of the topics you
cover were overlapping with the I was reading. You know.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, it's an interesting field, man. You know, you have
to meet the most interesting people in the world, man,
and really what's really going on in the world is
what we try to get to.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, now, but by the way, you ever hear of
You must have heard of John Draper, right, Captain Crunch.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, yes, I have heard of this, this guy, yeah
and all that.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, that's right. Well, you know, Captain Crunch, he was
roommates with aj Webman did you know that?

Speaker 1 (03:27):
I did not know that.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, and then he lived in Vegas for a while.
I used to try and get him to come on
the show as a guest all the time. And uh,
I guess he was.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
He had some kind of physical prompts. And he used
to want me to come over to his house and
help him stretch and help him move. Could you come
over and help me move?

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah? I heard he was a strange fellow.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, I guess he was. Yeah, I guess he was.
Now what about I said, if you if you're working
on all this stuff here. Oh by the way too,
I'm back in the old days too, And I used
to go to a lot of those digital friensic investigation
conferences and stuff like that. I met this guy with
the cell phones. He said that there was a even
he could do it. Yeah, there was a way to

(04:11):
take your cell phone and wire tap the cell phone. Well,
if it's sitting in the room, they could use it
as a wire tap and listen to us right now?

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Is that yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah, yeah, that stuff is real man. It's you know what,
there's a great book you could buy called the Android
Hacker's Handbook.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
All right, but you can get an autograph copy too
if you text on Twitter.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
No, that was that was a past life. That stuff
ages so quickly too. That's a great but a lot
of the material changes with each new OS update and
stuff and all the where. So. But yeah, man, it's
that stuff is really. I mean, they're just basically their
tracking devices, you know. And I don't really use cell
phones as much anymore. When I do, it's usually a
little flip phone from you know, a little Motorola Star

(04:56):
Tech kind of thing, you know. I remember those.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
I yeah, I actually didn't start using cell phone. I
had a cell phone business, you know, in nineteen nineties.
I had you know, cell phones for years and page
what's that?

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Pagers?

Speaker 2 (05:09):
I thought, oh yeah, page, Yeah, it was pages and
cell phones. Yeah, okay, yeah, and what do you call it?
You know? I sid at demo line nine hundred minute
dem demo line, you know, nine hours? No, it was
nine hours, nine hour demo line. We had several of them. Otherwise,
your bill is like four hundred dollars a month back
in those days if you very careful. But uh, I
stopped using cell phones man myself until by twenty nineteen,
and I regret I bought my I broke down, I

(05:31):
bought my first iPhone. It's it's mind control.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, it is. It's not just so much like the
tracking thing too. It's also that the apps are designed
to they're like little casino apps, you know, and they
just designed a friar brain and like constantly fiji information
most vulnerable moments like when you're on the toilet, you know,
those those were moments that were for yourself before. You know.
Now they're kind of getting into every moment of your life.
So I don't know, I just kind of did away

(05:57):
with it.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah, and I think it's good advice. I would love
to myself hopefully. Now what about now, you must have
had like a security clearance when you were doing this
kind of work.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Right, Yeah, yeah, I don't want to get too much
into that kind of stuff. Yeah, I was in that
whole world. I was on the East Coast in Maryland, Fairfax. Yeah,
that kind of stuff. So yeah, Centerville, Alexandria, Vienna.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
You know, So then is there any issues like with
the security clearance and then talking about the kind of
things you do on Twitter, have you ever experienced any
kind of problems?

Speaker 1 (06:33):
No, So that life I was mostly into that stuff earlier,
maybe about ten years ago. That's when I was working
at the defense contractors and that kind of stuff. Then
I left and started my own company and made my
own little defense contractor. So we had a small team,
about five or six people. And then a few years
after that, we got an idea for a product how

(06:55):
to you know, we we spent most of my career
attacking these devices, so I figured, hey, let's try to
make a way to defend the devices. Yeah, and so
I raised some money from VCS and started a little
product company. Uh, and then that ended in around twenty
nineteen or so, right around when COVID was kicking off.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
So so, now is it possible because you say yourself
that you're not using a phone anymore, is it possible
to really be one hundred percent even with Faraday bags
and even with you know, making all those kind of
precautions you know, and burner phones and all that, is
it even possible to possible to do what to stay

(07:32):
under the radar?

Speaker 1 (07:34):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
I see like I've kind of blackpilled on some of
this stuff, you know, Like I'm not I think privacy
is pretty much gone, but it's like how if you
look at it like a resolution, like how much detailed
do you want to provide? You know, like is it
going to be, oh, he had this phone number at
one point, or is it going to be he had
this phone number and it it was last seen two

(07:56):
minutes ago at this location, you know what I mean.
So it's just about the resolution of information you want
to provide. I think, especially with all these companies who
we like polant He who I know you've talked about
a little bit, all this stuff is coming into one
view screen now and analysts don't even really need to
spend time learning, you know, and before you know, you

(08:17):
have to do all these complex queries. And there was
some technical ramp to analysts accessing this information. You had
companies like Lexus Nexus that would kind of collect the
information and put it on a WebUI or something. But
now with AI and companies like Polanteer, the way that
these people access the intelligence data is is massive because

(08:40):
I imagine going to SyRI and saying, hey, Siri, when
did you ask see ed Opperman? You know, And so
now you have this whole layer of AI that sit
in algorithms that sit in front of the intelligence data.
So it's going to just get ridiculous. It's just getting
really like out of hand. And that's why I think
the true Telling movement is really the only way we

(09:00):
can fight back. And that's why it's an honor to
meet people like you and talk to people like you.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
But the thing is, like we were kind of talking
a little bit off the two and we talk again, probably, uh,
the truth telling movement is so uh such a mess man,
you know. Yeah, And even people who may not be
outwardly you know, on the payroll, Yeah, A're still so

(09:25):
naive and gullible that they just yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
I don't know. I mean, I don't know these people
like you do. But I could even just tell from
the books You'll be. You'll be like one hundred pages
into the book and then he'll throw shade at somebody
else another book you read, you know, like I try
to go. I try. I don't really get into the
UFO paranormal stuff too much. But even in that stuff,
I think a lot of the UFO paranormal stuff is
actually cover for other things, because like Corso's book The

(09:55):
Day After Rockwell or Roswell, that was him basically just
dropping a bunch of classified stuff in the public arena,
and I think what they do is they just put
like a clown nose on and then they go out
and tell the truth. But because you were in a
clown nose, no one takes you seriously, you know what
I mean? And I feel like a lot of the
UFO stuff and paranormal stuff is a way to inform

(10:17):
the public without doing it in a way that would
attract a lot of attention. You know.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Now, Courso is the fellow He was in a wheelchair
and he was he ran Wolf Spirit Radio. Is that
the guy?

Speaker 1 (10:29):
I don't know his physical description. I just know he
wrote this book right here? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Did he just recently pass away in the past few years? Yeah, yeah,
of course, So, okay there was I always get confused
about those guys.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, this guy was a colonel. Yeah, it's always the colonels,
you know.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Colonel Oliver north Man went from major to lieutenant colonel
in six years after Operation Eagle Claw, you know.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, yeah, even what's his what's his name? The guy
that wrote the JFK book Shoot Ali Secret Team.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Okay, that guy that was a colonel too, colonel's name?

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Uh? Jesse Ventur wrote the ford Man the books called
The Secret Team. Oh wait a minute, it was written
in seventies.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Mark Lane.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
No, no, no, no, no, Mark, that's a different guy.
Mark Line is a UFO guy. That's different.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
I was thinking of Mark Lane from the from Jeff
Case The Secret Team. Yeah, let's see who is this
guy here? Oh, Fletcher Proty?

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah yeah, prouty Sorry, Okay.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
So I just did some stuff about Fletcher Protty. What's
your take on him?

Speaker 1 (11:57):
I don't know much about him personally. I just know
what I just read the book, right, and I did.
There were a couple of like Twitter threads and stuff
about him, and I check those out, but I don't know.
I don't have a lot of detail.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, I just interviewed them. I forget his name, but
the nice guy Jeff Carter, I think it is. And
he did a film about Fletcher Protty that's really really good,
and I kind of, you know, I Fletcher Protty was
hanging out with John Judge and stuff like that, and
I kind of got the impression and Black Ops Radio
on those guys, and I kind of got the impression
that Fletcher Protty was like a real whistleblower. What's your impression.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
That's That's the impression I got because he the book
talked about a lot of his grievances with the way
the intelligence community was run. Yeah, and like one of
the big things he said, he said, intelligence serves as
its own propellant. Like intelligence serves as its own propellant.
So basically, you know, the intelligence fuels the collection of

(12:51):
worse and worse intelligence, So you get this downward spiral
of crap basically, and then bubble up as a big
event like you know, nine to eleven or Afghanistan, or
it would just pick any major event in the last
twenty five thirty years or even longer. And you can
tell that a lot of it was just piling of
refuse intelligence on top of refuse intelligence, you know, like hearsay,

(13:14):
and you know, they just kind of consuming their own refuse,
you know what I mean. That's basically in bs Basically
they're consuming their own ps. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
And then once that stuff gets out there and it's
circulated enough and people are repeating it, everyone just assumes
it's real. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Plus I think that I'm sure you see this quite
a bit. Is just trying to get a read on
is somebody telling me the truth? You know? I think
in the basic is it's just it's really the last
few years for me has been so such a such

(13:50):
a surprise, like to realize that because I would share
bits of information i'd hear on your show and then
go try to corroborate it. Obviously, I mean, you know,
I trust you and everything, but go corroborate, and then
you kind of make a value judgment. It's like, yeah, this,
there's probably something to this. And then when I share
the information, it's like immedia dismissal from people you know,

(14:11):
and and and I think perhaps the most h disturbing
part is it's often dismissal from people who you thought
had the discernment to see through it, you know, And
so you realize, oh, man, we're not all really in
the same tribe. I thought we were in the same tribe,
but we're not in the same tribe. You know.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
It's sad too, right, yeah, disappointing. So yeah, and then
also too, you know, behind the scenes, you start seeing
people some of these guys motivation. You know, it's all money,
you know, and I forget what it was. But like,
if I were to support Trump and be outly a
Trump support, I would have so much money. Yeah, the

(14:50):
money we're just bringing in, it's just and that's a
lot of guys just do that just for the for
the clicks and for the positive stuff. So info grenades
dot Com, Now what are we working on here?

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, So, I mean it kind of perfectly segues from
what I was just talking about, which yah, we you know,
it's an attempt to try to share information with people
in a way that has that truthiness to it. You know,
you can something's just kind of ring true to you, like, oh,
this got probably not BS and me and I don't
really see a motivator here for him to BS me
so and then also he's well sourced, you know. So

(15:27):
I just try to provide information in a consumable way.
And I know we're in this short attention span generation
right now, you know, like that's just the way that
things are, and truth would probably be not more prevalent
if people were willing to take the time to read
some of the source materials and stuff. So what Infragrenades

(15:49):
and my website, my personal threads website is is just
to give people small bites of information that have like
a truthiness to them, you know, because we at the
greats like you and and May Brussell and and William
Ramsey and all these these great people. And we have
great writers like McGowan and Lavenda and all these Leavinda

(16:10):
is a little weird, but you know, we got good
We got a lot of good writers. So we need
something for our this other unaddressed group, I think, which
is that can draw people into that wealth of information
which comes from folks like yourself and some writers and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
You know, he was saying to a private conversation that
David Livingston, you believe that a lot of his material
is being distorted.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Oh, I think everyone is ripping off of his stuff.
Like there's people, I mean, there's I have found some
things that I believe to be minor errors in his books.
But he writes, has written so much, you know.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
So yeah, I find some mine errors too when I
interview him, and I always say, I got to get
this guy back right away. And I always think he's
good man. He's great.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, he's really good. He's a wealth of information. Yeah,
and I appreciate his motivations. Seem like he really wants
to share and condense all this information. He does like
a synthesis on all this history and then condenses it
down for people to consume and and I respect that.
I think that's kind of that.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
And again without a lot of self promotion like he's yeah,
he's he's not, because because a lot of artificial elevation
of people, you know, and just where do they come from?
Like the Ian Carroll, Where does this guy come from?

Speaker 1 (17:26):
You know, you know Whitney Red, She's written great books
and stuff too. But there's like same kind of thing
because I know Ian Carroll posts on her website sometimes
and they collaborate.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
So it's yeah, it's it's just we're in a maze
of mirrors, you know, like who's who and who's doing what?
But yes, so yeah, so I think that the kind
of the way forward is to provide some information to
people that can draw them into this wealth of other

(17:58):
information like David Extent and stuff like that. Yeah. I
hear people talking or too ab Ko all the time,
like little bits like the UFO. People will rip whole
chapters of his book about like what's it Robert Byrd
and the Operation High Jump and all that kind of

(18:19):
like the Nazis and Antarctica and all that.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, what do you make of that stuff. You know,
I interviewed the guy Antarctica. The guy was ridiculous, man,
it was, weren't out.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, yeah, the fireman guy. You know, I wonder if
that there's a certain because you know, there's like the
whole m K theme, the mind control and just behavior
modification stuff, which is basically pr which is basically algorithms.
It's just it's just the same tricks, right uh. And

(18:51):
I wonder if a lot of those people are kind
of like a filter, you know what I mean, Like
they're kind of like you know, like you ever look
at those pond and you got like the pond scum
on the top, and then like the algae, and then
you got the small fish and then the big fish
and then the turtles and stuff. I wonder if it's
just like this, it's stratified like that, you know what
I mean, Like you get a guy like that Fireman

(19:14):
Antarctica guy, and the person with basic discernment will listen
to him for five minutes and be like, nah, this
is BS, you know, like you just dismiss it. I mean,
like there's maybe a seed of information there, but it's
not enough source material. He just doesn't speak in a
way that offers you confidence, you know what I mean
that he's familiar with the subject, and so I think
people with discernment will dismiss it. So they're at a

(19:36):
different they're at a different part of the pond, you know.
Then then then the insects and stuff on the top,
you know, So.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
What about now do you follow like Maury Terry and
the Son of Sam process Church.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, so that's that was one of the first ones
I got into. Found a hard copy of The Ultimated
Evil because I heard there's different additions and they pull
stuff out of the first edition. I got a first
edition Mary Terry, Ultimate Evil. You had done shows on it,
and then I think William Ramsey had done some stuff
on it, and so so that was one of the

(20:13):
first parapolitical books I dove into. And I was shocked
that there was some connections in there that I didn't
hear people talking about, like John Carr. How John Carr
basically went to high school with Mary Terry. Yeah, they
were like best friends.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
I was like, what.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
That blew my mind? I was like, this guy did
not mention anything in the whole book, and he's providing
all this information about this case never before seen information.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
You know, Mary Terry was a strange guy. I respect
his work, one man, but he was a strange guy.
He had that group on Facebook where he went and
posts under his real name and people were asking him
questions and he'd come back and a different name and
replied to it.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
And then every time I was he would he would,
you know, when I would try to book hosts, authors
and stuff, but he knew he would tell them not
to go on my show. He would tell him that
because he uh selfishly uh owned you know this, this
this story and this topic. And I think I think
he felt he didn't get enough credit, which he didn't,

(21:20):
you know, I think he should have got. I think
he should get a lot more credit. And what do
you make of all that stuff?

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Too?

Speaker 2 (21:26):
With Netflix? And then the most recent Netflix that there's
there just came out just like two weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
See, so what's it? Netflix's two owners are basically related
to Sigmund Freud, creator of PR. So there's a I
think there's an infogrid in on this. Actually, if you
look up, Netflix did a little collage on it. Yeah,

(21:54):
what's his name? Reed Hoffman. And then the other one,
this the second founder. I forget his name, Reid Hoffman
seems okay, wait, wait is Reid Hoffman LinkedIn? Now? I
think Reid Hoffman is Netflix? But uh yeah, there's uh so,
basically I believe Netflix is a mind control tool. Okay, good, Yeah,

(22:19):
that's that's That's the short of what I'm trying to do.
But there is a genealogy there that backs it up
where the founders of the company are directly related to
the guy who wrote Crystallizing Public Opinion, the founder of
PR and American Propaganda.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
That Burne is you're talking about Edward burn So.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Edward Barnez's grand nephew is the founder of Netflix.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Really, yeah, Okay, I'm gonna hit you with something. Okay,
I have a Netflix account, right. Netflix gave me an account,
and it's me, you know, my daughter, her boyfriend, you know,
her friends, you know, Oh, have a And then there's
another one that's a special preview because you know, I'm
in the media, that I can watch advance copies of

(23:11):
Netflix and uh before everyone else can see it. Oh yeah, yeah,
so Netflix has the ability to send me something and
send you something totally different.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah, we could.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Be watching the same Netflix show and and there's changes
in it designed for you and design for me.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
The ab tested I think that's what they call it.
Yeah they yeah, they and they tailor to markets and
all that kind of stuff. It's really like the machine
is so the megaphone is out of control now, you know.
And that's why keeping it simple, like recorded voice, you
get so much through the voice, you know, like just
you've done you I've listened to a lot of interviews

(23:50):
you've done and I can tell all I can tell.
Ed can tell this guy is full of crap. You know,
but you're being nice, you know you you.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Know, oh yeah, you get more flies with honey man,
you know what everyone says. Well Ed was so respectful
to that guest.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, but I think you also you respect your your
listeners enough to know that they can also probably pick
up on it. Right. So I think that going back
to solutions like that, like you know, simple recorded voice,
the truth is really breaking through to people. And I
think people are going to get sick of the algorithm

(24:24):
based you know, AI generated content stuff. You can already
see people are like getting tired of it. I'm every
time I go and open a news site, now it's
got some banner image. It's some ugly, glossy AI generated photo,
you know, and people are just going to get sick
of that stuff and go back to basics, you know,
and the recorded voice radio you know, you hear like

(24:47):
gen Z and stuff is like buying a cassette players
and and you know radio. There's a whole section at
the bookstore now on the old vinyl albums because gen
Z is really into those. Now many discs is making
a comeback because you can record to many discs and stuff.
So I think I think we're going to see people

(25:09):
kind of start to reject some of this algorithmic bs
and content and stuff. And then this may be a
little glimmer of hope in that, you know.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Well rejected. How if it's all it's it's offered up
to them, you know, how are they going to reject it?

Speaker 1 (25:25):
That's true. I mean, the the one big problem I
think the elites have is that I think people will
have a natural inclination towards truth. But what the elites
have done so well, I think, is to eliminate discernment.
And so like you get a lot of gen z
Ers who just don't even have the concept of well,

(25:48):
what do you mean that the algorithm is serving me
content in different orders than it serves you content, you know,
Like they don't can't conceptualize of custom tailored content that's
in chronological order, because like we joined the internet when
we saw feeds, right, we had the Dejon News and
like we saw version one of Twitter where the timelines

(26:10):
were generated in chronological order. Facebook the feed was in
chronological order, and then we saw the shift to this
algorithmic based one. But imagine being born into a paradigm
where everything is algorithmic based. You wouldn't even know to
ask if there isn't any other way to do it,
you know. And so I think that's kind of the

(26:30):
arms race where and the information arms race is that
as the elites try to shape public opinion using these
algorithms in AI, there's still like a little seed inside
of people that yearns for the truth, you know, and
so they have to fight reality. I think it's very
nastic at the end of the day. Like it's very
it's an inversion of truth, you know, And I think,

(26:53):
I mean, I don't want to get all biblical or
anything about it, but I think the human spirit yearns
for truth ultimately and can detect it, even if it's
just the slightest little like Princess and the p you know,
like you know, like the mattress is not one hundred
percent comfortable, you know.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
But the thing is, okay, people do have they want
they want to search for the truth people, you know,
and you encouraged it so great, But then they're getting
all their truth by googling, and they're being spoon fed
alternative media and alternative you know, little tidbits and stuff
and and and they're light years ahead of us, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah, And I think that's what the elites are doing
that they're trying to eliminate discernment obviously modify the data
sources themselves. Like look at Wikipedia. That's like a clown show,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
I can't even get on there. You know.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
It's because it's run by like two ng os and yeah,
an angry woman, you know. So yeah, I mean it's uh,
they they're trying to do that, but I think they're
in this arms race with like people who are learned,
who are getting tired of the content and also yearning

(28:01):
for some degree of truth. But the sad part is
those same people don't have the discernment, like you said
to like look around, Oh, what do you mean there's
a different surch engine then Google, you know, like they
you know, they don't really have that. And I think
that's the main just to bring it back to the
kind of the truth media. I think that's what I'm

(28:22):
trying to do with infra grenades. And what I appreciate
that folks like you do is the moment you can
show people that there is a slight glitch in the matrix,
then they start to naturally acquire discernment. I think, you know,
they start to figure out, oh, well, maybe I should
maybe question these sources, or maybe I should double check
this other source, or what do you mean there's two

(28:43):
versions of that book that were printed, you know what
I mean. And then and then they learn from from experience,
I think, how to question these sources.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, there's a whole thing that goes on to with
published books, like especially off the top of my head,
like books published about Trump, where then he'll get to
the authors and pay them off later on the book's
already published. But then they won't talk about those little
tidbits on the radio. They won't talk about it during
the interviews. You know, because they're getting paid already, they
don't need to sell books. And there is so much

(29:12):
control and like I went his firsthand, the control over
this Epstein story, you know, even to the point where, like,
you know some things the past week, So I show
you and I've been on the Globe and the Inquiry
and stuff and a drudge. I was on a covered
drudge for a few days. You that, right, I know, right,
And I got some stuff coming up. They quoted me

(29:33):
about the death of Princess Diana. I don't know. That
might be a bridge too far.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
No, at Nanka Shogi, there's a connection to Oh.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. He's brother in law's with Dodi's father
that kind of runs harents in.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
And he funded that movie FX, which is about using
Hollywood special effects people to fake the deaths of aristocrats.
Oh really yeah, it came out in the nineteen eighties.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
I didn't care at you that.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, it's got starring Richard Dennahey remember that guy, kind
of a big dude.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Brian, Brian, yeah, Brian Denny.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah, he's in that one. They pay up all these
these Hollywood people to fake all these high networks people's
death you know, fake.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Koshogi funded that book too. Men are from Mars and
women from Venus. And then that guy wound up being
a nine to eleven truth.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
And think his name was his cousin at the other k.
You know, he got cut up, chip or whatever. Something
was just related to Steven Paddock in the Las Vegas shooting.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Oh real, Oh, how how do you get that? Because
go ahead, how do you get that?

Speaker 1 (30:41):
No? No, no, no, no no, I don't want to get
too off time. I didn't want to interrupt you.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
But what do you call it? You would think, man,
when Koshogi died, the pictures of him with Evanna Trump
all over the place, they were like best friends.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah, you think.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
And and then then his nephew gets cut up and
in the office, you know, basically Chared Cushner hold of
the knife at Nope, the media doesn't touch it.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Yeah, it's amazing. I and the you know, that's one
of the things is in my thread on my website
steven dot com. I did a you know, I thought
I was so smart, you know, like finding this connection.
But I saw found these Twitter threads and stuff of
people talking about the Stephen Paddock. Yes, some interesting little

(31:28):
kind of MEMI videos about the strangeness around the Las
Vegas shooting, you know, and the security guy who got
shot and didn't and then went on Ellen DeGeneres. And
then you got some weird connections to conservative social media
influencers too.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Oh who's at the security guard?

Speaker 1 (31:46):
No, No, there's a guy what's his name, Dan Bullsarian
And he was at the Route forty one. Yeah, yeah,
the Root forty one show. And so there's some police
dashcam foot or you know, bodycam footage of him running
up to the cops and saying, the girl next to

(32:06):
me got shot, you know, and it's like, what the
hell is Dan? Heck is Dan Bulsarian doing there?

Speaker 2 (32:12):
H wait? See that guy that he claimed he the
cop gave him a gun.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
And yeah, yeah, but he's some weird What's weird is
that this is like a like a real conservative influencer
that was big on Twitter for I didn't follow him,
but you know, I kept seeing his name and things,
So what is he doing there? And then I've also
connected this to some other things that I'd found. There
was a another group that I found a video on
Bloomberg in like twenty seventeen, and I had to go

(32:40):
dig it out again. It was buried inside of a
CBS segment and it was a guy saying that a
group of him and forty I think he said forty
or fifty of his friends or co workers had been
in two other shootings. Oh yeah, he had just been
in the what you call the Sam Bernardino shoot Really,

(33:01):
so he said, this family got hit twice. It's like, well, then,
who's the family? Like, what do you talk? Like, what
do you mean? How do you get into shootings? You know?

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Yeah, you know, but nowadays, well you don't want to
have something really weird. Like a friend of mine, what's
his name, Ricardo Morales, you know, the son of Monkey Morales.
You know, his brother was shot in that shooting down
there in Parkland just recently in at the school shooting
down there in Florida. And it's just a coincidence.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Now, so I did a there's an infragrenade on this, Okay,
there are if you go on the website and do
if you search, there are many people that have been
in many shootings. At the collage of all these stories,
and it is a ridiculous amount of people have been
in two or three mass shootings and I don't know

(33:47):
what you want to do with that information, but this is,
I mean, the sheer probability of that is there.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Is kind of where to Hall Lumer? How Laura Lumer?
Oh God, who comes at he who comes out of
really not even nowhere? She comes out of really being
a crazy person. It was trained by o'keef to infiltrate
Hillary Clinton, and now she's in the White House with Trump,
you know, and getting kicked out of press conferences and

(34:15):
really acting bizarre in Vegas. Man, really acting kind of
crazy in Vegas.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Like the show becomes reality. Yeah, show, it's like, you know,
like they do these and then you can get into
like the alchemicalness of it if you want to take
it to like the Alister Crawley route of it. But
doing like ceremonies almost like makes them into reality and
strange kind of back to what you were saying about
the publishers. Though didn't uh jiseln Maxwell's dad didn't he

(34:45):
own McGraw hill.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
I don't know about McGraw hill, but yeah, one of
the Maxwell was a had a huge publishing empire, and
I always wondered help Rupert Murdoch fit into that and
and they were competitors. And then after Murdoch Maxwell died,
Murdoch went in and picked up all those little little

(35:07):
companies he had. He ye a song, you know, I
got cheat.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Yeah. Yeah, So, I mean I think I forget what
your point was exactly, but you were kind of saying
with the games that Trump was playing with, like, you know,
getting these authors to not promote the little tidbits of
information to publish, I mean, and if the publisher is
owned by basically intelligence.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Oh yeah, publishers for sure, undred percent. Yeah, I'm dealing
with that right now. Yeah, a certain publisher I stopped
working with actually went out and hired a new publicist
to promote the books, like without being connected.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
I wanted to ask you that, how come you never
wrote a book like That's the first thing I did
was go to try to find books by you.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
I wrote that to you know, how to become a
successful private investigator?

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Book published? Right?

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, yeah, self publishing. And I had a deal recently
to do a book about Epstein's stuff, and I was
really gonna blow the list the lid because I was dying,
you know, I'm gonna die anyway, we just blowed a
litle all this shit that I know. Yeah, but I'm
backing away from that now. I'm gonna do some books

(36:18):
we around the time is one thing, and they're really
not that profitable either. You know, you don't make a
lot of money.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
You don't make any money off the boat.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
You know, and it takes a lot of time.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Yeah, it does. Speaking of time, how are we doing
on time?

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Let's see what we're doing, because now I know you
wanted to talk about it. We're forty minutes in, so
I know you wanted to talk about stuff with the
Catholic Church. They said, what was this stuff here? The
Hoffman and yeah, the Vatican.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yeah, we don't have to force it. But I just
found how it was. So much of it is connected
to what we're experiencing today. I think, you know, like
I think even early in the conversation, I mentioned how
a lot of this stuff we're saying feels kind of gnostic,
which is like this inversion of truth basically flip everything
on its head that Alistair Crawley do. What that will

(37:05):
kind of thing, you know, which is a truth is falsehood.
There is no limitation to what you want to do,
and so I saw, I think that's just a common
theme here. I mean, maybe I'm just extrapolating a little bit,
but as you no matter what subject it is that
you look into, you find that there's this faction that
is always attempting to invert the truth, like literally take

(37:29):
it and turn it the exact one hundred and eighty
degree opposite of what it is. And it's like, what
is that? Like? Why are people why? Why does that?
Why is that such a recurring pattern, you know, throughout
all of parapolitics, you know, And that's when I started
to look into Hoffmann's book and the Vatican and how
the Vatican Church was infiltrated by you could say that

(37:52):
this Gnostic or Sabbath I'm not Sabotaean, but kind of this,
this this other faction you know, that's sought to subvert
the power of the Church and convert it to this
almost demonic force, you know what I mean. And so
and so a lot of this the themes we see today,
I think popping up with you know, pick your culture

(38:17):
war thing du joor, you know, the transgender thing or
the you know, there seems to be an overlap. And
I found a few there's actually done a few infragrenades
on how there are direct connections between these two. As
an example, the Tavistock Clinic, which was like a very
strong proponent of the transgender movement, identified they had a

(38:38):
web a page on their website where they called themselves
gnostic reticulous. They said, we are basically gnostic jihadists, is
what they're admitting to being. And and you know, before
I thought I was just making this connection in general.
I said, oh, the pattern looks similar. But then when
you stumble on something like that, they're admitting that they
are gnostic, you know what I mean? And then that

(38:58):
kept me going. And then I found later that Gnostics
believe in this kind of deity called Rebus, the androgin
and Rebus the androgin is has the parts of both
male and female. So they believe that is literally like
the perfected human. According to some Gnostic theology, when the

(39:18):
humans become perfected, they will become this this Rebus. You know, this,
this this both male and female creature. Maybe it's meant allegorically,
but it was just shocking to me. It was like, Okay,
we have the transgender movement coming out of Tavistock, who
admits their Gnostic and then the Gnostics believe in having
both genders, you know. So it's like you find things

(39:41):
like that and it's validating because I'd kind of noticed
the pattern before, but then then it's solidified, like, oh,
this is for real, you know, and then I usually
take some notes and that's why I put it up
on the website there.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Well, well, then what do you make of that though,
because when you really look at the numbers, like the
actual numbers of actual transgenders.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Is solow, it's like, yeah, it's ridiculous, I know. And
so that's what I think. It's really an attempt to.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
What's the goal.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
I I don't know what the goal is. My guess
is that I think they are using it's an inversion
of reality what I was talking about before, which is
to take what we all know to be material truth
and then inverted one hundred and eighty degrees in an
opposite direction to kind of throw the population off center,
you know, Like that's how you knock people. That's like

(40:32):
causing a trauma, you know, knock them off center, and
then you can control them a little bit easier.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
That's interesting because it does it really triggers the right
you know that that that issue and the bathrooms and
sports uh triggers them like to such a degree. And
Nancy Mace, that's her whole career. Well you know it's bathrooms.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Come on, Nancy Mace.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yeah, she's like a runner for senator or in north.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
She went to the Citadel bro like, she's right, you're
the first woman said, I mean, come on, Nancy Mace
is an op. Sorry not, it's just the right running
it up. It's just it's just and it's that tension thing,
you know, like you talked about it on your show
many times, the strategy of tension or uh Geebard Griffin's

(41:17):
written about it, like the in several of his books,
and he's done shows on it. How you push from
the right and push from the left. And that's how
you heard the sheep, you know, right right, you got
one sheep dog on one side, one sheep dog on
the other side, and you got the right running the
little Nancy Mace ops and transgender this and that, and
then you got the left screaming about you know, ree

(41:37):
healthcare and immigrants and stuff, and then the people just
run right into the barn. The sheep just goes straight
into the barn because you got these two dogs bouncing
them back and forth off each other.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Okay, then I gotta tell you, like, like I know
that I can't and democratic politics, and you know that
the people at high levels don't realize this. They don't
realize that they believe these things, Like they don't believe
that they're not agents. You know, they're not coming up
with this stuff on their own. They believe this stuff.

(42:10):
So how is it they.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Just maybe it's back to the pond thing. Man. Maybe
you got like certain fish swim in certain part of
the pond, and then the big fish know how to
control a little fish.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
And now who are the big fish in this thing?

Speaker 1 (42:23):
I wish I knew. I have my guesses as to who,
and it's those because you know, I'm sure you know
better than anyone. But if you look at these historical
parapolitical influence operations, names pop out, kind of factions start
to congeal in your mind. You're like, oh, that person's
connected to this. So then you start to see, oh,
there's a little faction right there, you know, like there's

(42:45):
a little group. And then and then they usually have
connections to older ops, you know. And so I've seen.
I mean, this goes directly relates to the Vatican. Roberto Calvi,
who was the you know, basically the banker for the Vatican,
disappeared from his apartment in Rome and was found hanging

(43:08):
underneath a bridge in London. But what I just found
recently that blew my mind is that he was hanging
under Blackfriars Bridge in London. And when I looked down
the map of Blackfriars Bridge, that is the bridge of
the City of London. The City of London is a
small nation state within London. People see City of London,
they think they talk about London, London. It's not. It's

(43:30):
actually the Rothschild Central Bank part of London, and they
have their own little section of the city there. And
and I, you know, I'd known about the Roberto Calviy
thing before. There's a book, a movie called Il Devo
which was kind of the story of Prime Minister Andreati
who's basically mobbed up, and then Roberto Calvi plays a

(43:54):
big part of it. Michael Sindona or Michelle Sindona, who
maybe Russell has done some great shows on David Livingston
has written about quite a bit, because I mean David
Livising's book or to a book series rather, Ordo ab
Ko is taken from Freemasonry, like a tenant of Freemasonry.
And so when I started looking this stuff up, I

(44:15):
remembered those things. But then that Blackfriars details really got
me because Blackfriars is the name of a Freemason sect.
So literally, the head of the Vaticans Bank disappears in Rome,
is found hanging from a bridge that is named after
a Freemason sub sect, and the bridge itself is owned

(44:39):
by the City of London, which is run by the
Rothschild family, which is basically like the Hail Marys conspiracy
theories if you took all conspiracy theories like about you know,
the Jews and Rothschilds and all this stuff and put
it in a blender and then poured it out. But
here's the thing. This was on the Financial Times website,

(45:01):
so I'm like, this is legit sources. And I thought
this thing was a complete I thought it was complete
parapolitical nonsense. But it's true. It really happened. It really happened.
It's like, what the hell is going on?

Speaker 2 (45:14):
You know, it's funny when you say legit sources. You know,
so many of these mainstream media, they get their stuff
half wrong anyway. Yeah, no, I mean legit.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Yeah, I mean legit in the sense that like the
average person would consider it legitimate, you know.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
But it's just amazing how sloppy these people are now
lazy there. If anybody's being manipulated just out of their
laziness and sheep sleepwalking, it's those characters. Oh yeah, yeah,
But then again I don't know. Oh boy, you know
stephen A. Ridley, Then what is your faith? What do
you have? A religious faith? Of faith in God? What
do you how do you how do you maneuver your

(45:49):
way through all this?

Speaker 1 (45:50):
I was my grandmother. I spend a lot of time
with my grandmother as a child, mostly in the summertimes,
and she was a Baptist minister. Yeah, so I spent
time in the church as a kid. I was kind
of raising the Christian faith. I was baptized and all
that kind of stuff. And then obviously, you know, in
your teens and twenties, you wander away from that stuff.
But I am steadily finding my way back to to

(46:14):
you know, as I learned all this stuff about parapolitics
and look at the history of especially European history, like
reading about Rome and the French Revolution and nessa Webster
and all these other things. There's a common theme. It's like,
do you want a conspiracy theory? Christians are the oppressors?
Christians are actually the most persecuted people in history. Actually,

(46:37):
Like it's really I don't want to get it into
a whole thing, but it's just one of those It's
just an inversion of the truth. Like what you would
suspect is the truth, or what you implicitly believe is
the truth. Sometimes when you dig a little bit deeper,
you find out it's actually the opposite, you know, because
you've been told lies and misinformed for so much of
your life. So to answer your question, I'd lean very

(47:00):
and I'm not a practicing Christian or anything, but very
God conscious. I guess you could.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Say, yeah, and you're a student of day McGowan. Oh
I read it, Yeah, I wrote, Okay, then what do
you make about Because my experience with Dave McGowan is
from the very very very start with him was that
there's some kind of pushback on his teachings, the infiltration,
you know, deep My first producer went to day McGowan

(47:30):
and told him ed oppermans an age. She went to
his hospital bed. Okay, she snuck into the hospital to
his hospital bed to warn him that I'm an agent,
you know, to stay away from me. And then I
found out about her that everything about her life was
a lie. She lied about her heritage, her living situation,
or occupation. Everything was a catfish. What do you make
What is Dave McGowan teaching us that is so scary

(47:51):
to these people that it's perverted all over the joint
and people stealing his name outright steal his name and
his legacy? Is what was so important about his teaching
and that that causes such reaction.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
I don't know, I what is it? No? Because I
think people will read Laurel King and think it's great
and then fine, we didn't go to the moon, you know, yeah,
or I went to the wagging the moondog. He's sorry,
you think the moon stuff is what it is? I'm

(48:29):
just messing around. I don't know. I think it's because
he's so effective at explaining to people that they've been
lied to. I think that's like the fundamental piece that's
so difficult for people to get their heads around, because
he does it in a way that's almost unassailable, you know,
like he's not conning you. Maybe he is. I don't know.
Let's just assume. I don't know, but maybe you don't

(48:49):
feel as though you're being conned and then you can
corroborate the information.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
I don't think he was a con whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
I don't need no, I agree with you. I'm just
saying like, let's just yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
I'm not even not an exaggerating kind of guy. He was.
He was sincere yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Yeah, and he was really good at corroborating his stuff
and providing material and stuff. So and I've listened to
all the shows you've done with him like that, William Ramsey,
David McGowan. You even said that his history in the making,
it was history of making that.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Street Lit is another guy we lost. Man, that guy
is a brilliant guy.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Man.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Who is it Cisco Street Love?

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Oh? Oh he you just you did it one with Cynthia.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
McKinny Cynthia McKinnie and and Cisco Street Love.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Yeah recently.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
No, it was like a suicide.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Man.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
It was about ten years ago with Cisco Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Oh yeah, that's weird. I don't know that wasn't in
front of my mind.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
You know, you know, you've been around a long time,
so you know how many people have we lost? We
lost Dave McGowan, Moretarry's gone. Uh, even Brad Schreber, he's gone.
We just lost Ted Rubinstein, he's gone. Daniel Hopsicker, he's gone.
How many people have we lost? Man? You know that
that were legit respected people, man doing like the real work.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Yeah. Oh god, especially Hopsicker too, he like one, you know,
he like didn't ended up looking up with the wife
of Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Verry Steal he was down.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Yeah, he's doing real investigative journally doesn't.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, and that's how this stuff comes out,
you know, you develop relationships with these people, you know.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Yeah. Well, I mean I just to get back to
your point, the point you were making, Like I I
do have my reservations about you, Ed. I mean, I
love your show and your information provide is phenomenal. But
I wouldn't be surprised if you if you knew some
people who he did favorites for once or twice, you know.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Yeah, of course, yeah, I mean, you know, I remember
you you share a little bit about your backstory and stuff, like,
you know, the stuff you went through and they running runnings.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
With the law.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Unfortunately pressure with the law.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Yeah, yeah, so I'm I mean, yeah, I think I
think if you are skeptical minded, it's it's good to
be objective about all your sources of information. Ye, and
folks like yourself. But yeah, I think, uh, and when
you do that, I think you look at David McGowan
and you see, Okay, this guy, he's there's no I

(51:19):
don't I'm not detecting anything that would make me feel
as though he's trying to convince me of something strange.
And there's there's a there's also ego too. I think
if you can see that someone is not driven by
their ego in the information that they're trying to provide you,
I think it provides it gives you like a confidence
that they're not doing it for their own motivations, you

(51:39):
know what I mean, Or they're for like selfish motivations.
And I didn't get that vibe from mcgallan at all.
And I think he, I mean, almost every page of
his books is as these bombshells on it, Like the
big one for me, I think the one that really
like shocked me the most, in like twenty nineteen or
something was that the the Gulf of Tonkin information about

(52:03):
and the connection to Jim Morrison and the Yeah, and
I wrote a whole essay. I had a website that
I put up call we see youdog dot com and
that was like a central part of that essay. It
was like, like how do we not see that that
was clearly an op, Like we have the son who's

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providing the the nineteen is seventy or the kind of
the anti leader of the anti war movement, you know,
kind of the face and voice of it. With the music.
He comes out at absolute obscurity with these premide albums, right,
and then there's a photo of him with his dad
on the deck of the Bonheimer Shard and his dad

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is this big admiral that was responsible for allowing us
into the Vietnam War with the Gulf of Tonkin. So
they literally used the They had the goalies, you know,
they had the guy who kicked it off the effort,
and then they burned the op at the end with
the sun. And then the same thing happened like if
you look at the Nazis, may B. Russell has done
some stuff on this too, but you look supposedly the

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story of the reason why the Nazis believe what they
believe was this book called the Protocols of the Elders
of Zion, and that was like all this like anti
Semitic stuff in it, and that's that was like what
we were fed as the motivation for why the Nazis
did what they did and stuff and the Tuley Society
and all this other stuff. And then I looked into
it and on the Wikipedia page this is so like

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I don't credit with Wikipedia for being a great source
of information, but on the page, like the establishment is
willing to admit through Wikipedia that the person who translated
and debunked the Protocols of the Elder of Zion was
none other than them. Do you know who was? Yeah,
Alan Dulles, a lowly clerk working in Istanbul who would

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later just become the head of the CIA. Okay, so
we got the reason for why World War two started,
and then the reason why we spun down the op
is like the same folks.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
You know, that's a good catch man, That's interesting, didn't
that you see what I mean? You know, by the
I don't know, did you catch my interviews with Alan Graham,
Captain Pink who was Jim Morrison's brother in law.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
I didn't know that Jim Morrison connection, but I think
I did hear that interview.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Yeah, he's Jim Morrison's brother in law. He was also
one of the hit men for Larry Flint. Okay, right,
what do you call it? But Jim Morrison was close
to his father, the Admiral, right up until his death
and after his death they were chums. They were close,
close close.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
The media tried to play it down though.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Yeah, that he was like, you know, yeah, they're stranged,
not as stranged a bit man, and his father was
very suspicious about his death at least, that's what Captain
Graham says. Was an interesting character, has been around a
lot of stuff. Man.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Didn't he also record those albums at Laurel Canyon at
the Lookout Mountain record?

Speaker 2 (54:53):
I don't think he recorded Lookout Mountain, but he was.
He's definitely a Laurel Canyon guy for sure.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Yeah, because I know there's a big sound stage in there,
and that was using a bunch of albums and stuff.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Yeah, a lot of words stuff going on down there, man,
that's for sure. So we only got a couple of minutes. Man,
what do you want to leave us with.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
I don't know. I just it's wanted to honor to
me if Highland actually see you. Noah, great, I didn't
know what you look like, to be honest, and no my.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
TikTok a normally I got a nice haircut. I wasn't
kind of having a rough week.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Hey, you tell you want to talk about information warfare
tool that's TikTok like in a nutshell that, yeah, is
heavily weaponized, but it's ending and Sola's Facebook and stuff.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
But so true, man, that Johnny depp Man and I
forget the other one. Man, they they manipulated and Andrew
tait Man they went they man, they got an op
man where they go in there and create those reels
on those tiktoks. Man, and they really they really did
a job. But we've been talking to us. Stephen A. Ridley,
you could find him info grenades dot com. H His
twitter is S seven E p h E N and

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it's the same thing as S seven number seven E
p h e n dot com is his website. But Steven,
what do you want to leave us with?

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Yeah, the main thing is check out infrogrenades dot com
for just little bits of consumable peripolitics, maybe stuff you
didn't know, maybe stuff you didn't know, but it's all
linked and tag together and stuff, and you might even
find some Ed Opperman bits on that website as well.
But yeah, just just go there and try to tell
the truth, I guess, spread the truth as much as

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you can.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
All doing the best we can, right, Stephen Ridley, thank
you so much, good night.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
Thanks