T.A. Powell: Lords of the Harvest: A True Crime Investigative Memoir

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twenty seventeen. I'm still right in twenty sixteen, Jackson, so
I'm gonna be in great shape next. But we got
a great guest today, Ta Powell. And she's the author
of the book Lords of the Harvest, a true crime
investigative memoir, and you can find her. She got a
website called Brownstone Literaryworks dot com. And there's also a

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website for the book Lords of Theharvest dot com. Miss Powell,
are you there?

Speaker 3 (01:54):
I am here, and I am not a catfish.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
That's well, I have to check you out, so I
have something that you're over there.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Tell the website floor right.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Tell us about yourself. Who is T A. Powell?

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Well, I would consider myself a forensic investigator. UH study
forensics at um U C and I work in tandem
I myself, I'm a psychic medium detective and work with
psychic medium detectives. But before that throws anybody off, please
understand that this is hardcore investigation that deals with actual

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physical and direct incredible evidence, patterned behavior, patterned demos, methods
of operations, et cetera, and the signatures by killers which
are detected through these patterns. So you know, if if
you're on board the dialogue with a dead train and

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awesome for all of you, you'll find this exceptionally interesting.
As the book is written in real time progressive revelation,
where you as the reader understand as I, as the investigator,
understand what I understand at the time, and so some
revelations come through spirit. Those, however, are not the do

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all end all. It's not as though somebody says, look
over your shoulder and the man wearing the pink carnation
in the corner with the blue shoe will give.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
You all the information.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
That's not the way it works. And for those of
you who take that sort of mediumship seriously, you understand
that what happens is is that spirit communicate information. Sometimes
you get partial names, dates, addresses, descriptions of locations. They're
very good about trying to help more or less describe

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various things they can see around themselves and their actual death,
crime scenes and at the time of their actual death.
And while those things are exceedingly important, it's all of
the additional research that comes to back up and support
and underpan all of that information is what ends up
getting your success in a court of law that I

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am well aware of.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Okay, so very interesting. So now Espe's you said that
that the book is like written like a in real time,
so like an investigative report. Okay, today, I did this
on such such a data did this and as you're
working on.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Case, not so much like a dear diary.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
I learned from my first true crime novel, which was
called The Sindray Line, which is also an in investigation memoir,
and that that information is available off on the website,
and that was about a Federal Treasury agent who was
actually murdered by law enforcement. I was able to get
ATF in Washington, DC to reapen a reopen a forty

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seven year old cold case, which is actually quite something
because ATF actually does not have a cold case department.
So the evidence that was submitted was hard physical evidence
in the form of ballistics, which proved my supposition. So
that being said, what I did with that particular case

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is I researched the case and investigated for four and
a half years before I wrote the novel that followed.
In this particular instance, what I decided to do was
to just go ahead and start recording what I was
doing as I was doing it. So the book opens

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with some back history to the Valdosta Federal Treasury Agent's murder,
and then it continues because several of the people that
I work with, one of the psychic mediums I work with,
and also the researchers that I bring on board with
each case, I include them as part of the actual

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storyline because in fact they are. They are part of
the investigation. So most all of the names that are
revealed in these novels are actual names. They're only I
think maybe one or two names of individuals that have
been withheld, either because the individual has requested such anonymity

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or because the individual is still alive, still a person
of interest and it is not in my best interests
to reveal who they are at this particular juncture, even
though FBI, GBI, and or ATS in respective cases have
all been notified and given formal reports of all my
information and all of my investigative findings to date. As

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a matter of fact, Okay, and that you're listening, I
hope that helps.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
That you're listed as an expert with the Cold Case
Investigative Research Center, is that the Cheryl McCollum group.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yes it is, but yes it is at about our college.
I worked with them on the more for Bridge massacre case.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, I had her on the show. She was talking
about that Bridge gase one another. Yeah, what was that
Bridge case against? She came on the show and talked
about that Bridge case. What is that again?

Speaker 3 (07:11):
That was the case that was considered of the last
mass lynching in America and that took place here on
the Walton Cony County lines in rural Georgia. And that was,
I believe back in nineteen forty six. It is still
considered an unsold case by the FBI. And so I worked.

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I worked on that particular case. And while I was
doing my investigation, I was contacted by the director of
ci or I, Charyl McCollum, and she asked if I
would come and speak with her criminal justice students. And
so so that's kind of how this whole thing really

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got born because I had the first book I wrote
from that is called The Danburg Diary, and I wrote
that as a historical fiction. Because of that particularly uncture,
I was well aware of the regigious radar I needed
to fly under, and so I did. And then you know,

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that comes a point in time where as an author,
especially an investigative author, and investigative reporters and authors alike
and true crime authors will all understand this that you
can write something and you couldn't do it as historical
fiction and fly under that loved to just radar. But

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at the end of the day, does that not subject
all of your hard research to the same misconceptions because
people don't know, they're not able to separate what is
fiction and what is hard physical evidence. And so after
the first novel writing is historical fiction, I decided to
you know, you had to be like and for a penny,

(09:02):
in for a pound if you're going to tell the truth,
and by god, get out there and you know how
the kohonas to do it. And so that's what I
decided to do on the sin Gray Line and also
on this current book, Lords of the Harvest, the true
crime investigative memoir, where I'm really placing myself in an

(09:23):
Oldnerald Mold position, but at the same token, I am
literally giving you as much information on cases upwards of
ninety three plus that took place starting from nineteen forty
five through twenty ten, eleven twelve thirteen, and so this

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book is not only written for the avid true crime reader,
but or also for those who enjoyed the paranormal aspect
of investigation, but also as a field manual for investigators
in precincts all across this nation that have unsolved cases

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that some of the information in this book tags to,
Like we have cases in the state of Florida, in
the Miami Keys, in Colorado, Texas, Louisiana, Maine, obviously multiple
cases in the state of California and Georgia, of course

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that are all connected to a set of serial killers
who acted in tandem to commit some of the most
heinous but some of the most infamous serial killings in
the United States have yet to be unsolved, although some
folks are on the verge of bringing forth some information

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that I'm very happy to say not only supports but
confirms findings that I already have in this book with
a copyright as of twenty four so the information in
the book is being validated by things that are now
being discovered in twenty seventeen by Netflix documentaries, History Channel documentaries, Discovery,

(11:15):
investigative documentary. So I'm just really pleased that this book
is finally going to start seeing some of the daylight
it deserves because there are literally hundreds of cases and
so many precincts that have been left unsolved simply because
the investigators don't have the luxury of the mosaic which

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this book puts together for them. So it's not just
a good read, which it's an awesome read and it
will keep you on the edge of your seat, but
it will also provide not only information evidence, but also
corroberative information to multiple jurisdictions, states, national cases, cross plod
al dominated cases where you know investigators call case investigator

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are searching for that one teeny tiny piece of information
that perhaps has been overlooked or misidentified as critical, which
is what happened in the case of this particular main
focus is there's a key, so to speak. And it's
not your physical key like I'm locking the door, excuse me,

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but it's a signature key that ties all of these
cases together. And the journey to how it was discovered
and how it can be explained and then corroborated through
hard physical evidence directly to cases I think will fascinate

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each reader as they look through this because it's something
that we were able to pull from not only like
the Atlanta Police to file files, but also from the
FBI vault files. You know, that's the funny thing about
the FBI and everybody else is they redact all the
information that they feel is important. But that doesn't mean

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that all the information that's important gets redacted, because sometimes
they don't realize that something is exceedingly important, and so
it's left open and not redacted, and it's in some
of that information. Then all of a sudden you start
to see a pattern or even pattern deviations where then

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you pick up on that and you move forward and
it connects to other cooperative information and evidence.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
So some of the cases we'll be talking about Tady,
they're in the book is the Black Dahlia, the Boss
and Strangler, Columbus Stocking Stranglings, the Atlantic Child the murders,
the Zodiac Killer, the West Memphis three, and the Oakland
County child killings. Because because you've found a common thread
throughout all these famous cases.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yes, I know that sounds kind of crazy, especially you
know when you're talking about you know, places that have
been studied by law enforcement gurus from time memorial. But
the thing is is that you know, I don't know
who exactly you has said it, but you know, if
you want you understand the psychology as a killer, you

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understand the agenda. And once you just understand the agenda,
then you understand the connections. And so what we did,
in essence, has discovered a very vital signature, key element
that can be found in crime scenes. Now this is
the most dramatically showcased within Kelly, I would say probably

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the Boston stranglings, the Columbus Stocking stranglings, in the Atlanta
missing and murdered children cases predominantly.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Before we get we will we will. But before we
get to that, I wanted to ask you about, uh,
how exactly do you have you being the use of
a psychic medium? How do you incorporate that into your investigation?
Like you know, I'm assuming you are. You're going through
the police records and you calling witnesses and you're taking.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Statement, right, you know how evidence witness testimony, etc. You
go through all the hard paperwork, all the hardcore all
the hard physical evidence. You know, what was located at
crime scenes or whatever. But okay, if I can give you,
if you wouldn't mind, let me just pull this up Okay.

(15:44):
You know this is taken from the book itself. Okay,
and this will give you some kind of this will
give you a feeling of Okay, all right, I'm going
to read you a little section of the book here.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
This is.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
This is These are the things that are important, and
investigators understand this. However, sometimes they escape them. The most
innocuous elements presented at a crime scene can sometimes be
the most important and the most corroborative. Now, this is
this is a section where something is absolutely ridiculous as

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a toothpick. Okay, something so innocuous as a tooth peck
is important, you know what I can tell you because
they don't want to have to scroll back through, you know,
seven hundred smart pages. But initially it came through they
we're giving a description of the of the killer. There

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are more than one, but one of the sific killers,
and it kept recurrenting a toothpick that this person, this
particular killer had had an issue with oral fixation. So
it was continually had a toothpick in his mouth all
the time, very very meticulous about cleaning his teeth, had
a real thing about that. Okay, So when we get

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into other particular cases, this is such as the Atlanta kills.
All right, now here's important. Okay, So this is a
section of the book where again the toothpick somehow presents itself. Now,
this is a section that begins with another psychic medium

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that I work with, who's a referenced to the spencer
in the book that says, just like the car, there's
a strong seventies or early eighties feel to this. The
energy with a darker hair is they're watching getting tips
from the other one on how to do things. This
is so weird. It's like it's like they're doing a
household chore together and the landscape or energy is telling
the man with the toothpick. So we already know from

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approof from previous information as another identity, and we know
who this is. With the toothpick in his mouth, he's
trying to tell him how to do this or that.
There is a piece of rope there, but I do
not know if it was actually used on the victim
or was just there. Then I write, I continue to
record everything gifted and marveled at the composure of the
victim as she did her best to give us as
much information as possible, and then paused did you say

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that the one with the darker hair that had a
toothpick in his mouth. She responds, like, he stands there
and he listens to the instructions he's being given, and
he watches the other one doing things to the victim
while he's picking at his teeth. And then, of course
I had a couple of choice words for him, and
then he talked about he said he had a toothpick

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shoved in his mouth and the Columbus Kills and then
again in the Atlanta Kills two. In fact, he left
a handful of toothpicks and the breast pocket of the
victim's shirt at the Terry Pugh CRI scene has a
clue now that has been documented in the Atlanta police files.
At the crime scene for Cherry Q, in the brass

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pocket of his little T shirt, there was a whole
handful of twothpicks, and the police didn't understand what they
help met even though the individual who was sending the
police information the killer was sending information and was telling him,
I'm leaving you little clues at these crime scenes.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
But did the psychic figure them out?

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Was the psychic aware though that there were two picks
found that the scene before she started coming up with
this twopic theory.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Now, this is an individual who's first of all and
absolutely no disrespect meant. Although nationally, if one you know,
were so edified, yes, the Atlanta missing and murdered children
was a human monster's case. He was a great concern
in the nineteen eighties, but the greatest concern was less

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nationally than it was locally. This individual is not from
the area, had no prior knowledge to or of any
of these killings, and so all of this information is
not directed from some previous research that they have done.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Okay, so what makes it so valuable?

Speaker 2 (20:11):
The psychic wasn't aware that the two picks were found
at the scene. She came up with that on her own.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
But then later on this is what she's doing, Okay,
So that you understand, this particular individual speaks with the dead.
So it was in communication with a victim. The interesting
thing was the victim she was communicating with was a
victim that is from California. But here again you pick

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up on the patterns. There's a toothpick. Why is this
in This individual has a toothpicks in s now?

Speaker 4 (20:44):
All right?

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Then you think toothpick where else have I seen this word?
So then I go back to my manuscript. I go, oh, okay,
in the Atlanta Police for files for Carrie Pew, it
says that the bot and the victim, the body was
found in the victim shirt fained a handful of toothpicks
in the breast pocket. Okay, So here you have a
signature element by a killinger who is now appearing in

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another case. And then we located another one where there
was another a separate situation where twothpicks were also found
at another crime scene. All right, So that signifies a
signature pattern by a killer. So then you have to
see what I have is I have the luxury of history,

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of time, and of distance, and of course the frickin' Internet,
because I can go in and I can plug in,
you know, crimes with this, crimes with this whatever, and
then I can pull out. If I'm lucky enough and
there's enough information available, I can go through maybe some

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police reports, or I can go through reports, or I
can go through you know, if it was FBI involvement,
I can go through some of their stuff. Now amazingly enough,
like I said, some of their stuff revealed what hey toothpicks.
They didn't regat the word why because they didn't feel
it was important. Not because it wasn't important, but because

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they didn't feel it was important to the investigation, which
is why the case remained unsolved.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Let me stop you there.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Can you give me besides, let's fick up the twothpicks
for altogether.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Little?

Speaker 2 (22:25):
But can you give me another? Can you give me
an example where the psychic was able to provide information
besides that? Another time? An example?

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Oh yeah, here's well, let me see, yes, okay, okay,
let me go back to the very region they pulled us. Okay, now,
all good investigators, Okay, here we go. You go back.

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All good investigators know that they're looking for some of
the most helpful things for investigators when they're looking at
victims and victimology, et cetera, et cetera, and also identification
of victims, is they look for, you know, specific things
like share color, heights, weight, you know, the obvious things

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that you look for. But then they also look for
things like tattoos, they look for jewelry sequences. All right,
So in this particular sense, we have more or less
kind of a reversal in that the information that we're
receiving is from a victim, and the victim themselves, that says,

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they show me the killers focusing on his hands. His
hands have brown spots on them. He's obsessing about these
brown spots. He does not like them. They make him
look cold. They mentioned this pinky finger. Something is missing
and they all perhaps not reformed properly seen the tip
of the pinky finger altogether. Okay, And then of course

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I asked, I asked for more information. They said, which
hand or whether they say go left, is on the
left hand. This deformity or oddity, see the left hand. Now,
as crazy as that is, later on you go down
and you read the information about let's take the Black Gallian,
the Black Dallia. The last person that the Black Delia

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Elizabeth Short was seen with was an individual who had
a deformity on his left hand, and it was his
pinky finger. Yeah, so you have you know, like I said,
you have, you have things where if something appears once,

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and as a psychic medium, I understand this for myself. Okay,
if information appears before me once, you know, most of
the time I pay attention to it. Okay, Sometimes I'm
a little DNS or sometimes I'm a little tired or
I'm just a little human, and something will present itself
again and again and again, and I'll be like, oh,

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for God's sake, I already know this, Why I've already
read this. Why do you keep showing me this? Take,
for instance, the Zodiac. Now, the Zodiac wants to sent
a letter, you know, and we all know about the
infamous letter to the San Francisco Chronicle about blowing up
the bus right with the kids on it.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Right.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
In fact, it was either the History or the Discovery
Channel had well the Zodiac, I think it's the History
Channel just recently had their docu drama on that. Okay.
So one of the things there was they were talking
about this bus, okay, and they're talking about there's a
diagram of a pipe bomb and it's got all of
these different elements, you know, and one of the specific

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elements was graveled, but it was like kind of like
a specific kind of gravel, and so on the documentary,
they confirmed that the area of location on Mont Diablo,
which is where they found the section of curve in
the road which had the nickname of school Brust Curve
or whatever, was located in near campgrounds. Well, we need
know through previous investigations, in previous information that spread throughout

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the book already, that our guys were notorious campers, okay,
and that they stocked people from campgrounds. Well, that specific
gravel could also be found in these campgrounds. And you're saying, well, hell,
you can find gravel in any campground or any playground.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
So that's not a big deal.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
All right. But the interesting thing about it is you
had that. Plus then you had these experts, military experts
who were saying, look, some of the information this guy
were using Fresher's codes were not general population and military stuff.
You're talking about people who had really high clearance, right,

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and not just high clearance, but clearance that even you know,
was at the top that wasn't even known or could
not have been known by anybody unless they were truly
truly at the top of their game, you know, in
certain military circles at the time. So one of the
things that's interesting about their discovery was they were going

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on about all this you know stuff, and they had
to do with all this additional chemistry and physics, et cetera,
et cetera. Well, one of our persons of interest worked
on the Manhattan Project. But in my initial review of
this individual, I had gone through and I had read it,
but I had not paid attention to it in the

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sense that I needed to pay attention to it. But
because it turns out that he became the quote unquote
partner under dual who killed in various of all of
these killings. And so initially you disregard one saying, okay,
will you have a person of interest who fits this demographic,

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this demographic, this, this, this, this, this, and then you
and you jump through all the hoops and you say,
he has access to this, he has knowledge of deiphering,
he has hammer radio experience, he had it, has this,
he has this me you know, and whatever. And then
I came to one point in the book where I
was like, you know, I can I can fit and
plug every freaking hole. You know. The guy is a

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freaking poet, but he's not he's not a rocket scientist.
And then all of a sudden, I started laughing, and
they went back and I googled something that I had,
you know, your mark before, and I looked at it.
I went, but I've seen this before, and then all
of them done. You know, dawned on me, and I thought, yeah,
you saw it before, you idiot, And there's try to
you again, because shoot, you missed something. So I started

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rereading the same sidebar article again and then went side
of a bench. Here we go. The guy's lover worked
on the Manhattan Project. So what do you do? You
roll over in the middle of the nine and you go,
huh hey, I think about putting up I bomb together,
but they don't really know how to do it. How
would how would a person go about doing that? So
there you have the media access to resource information and

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if you worked on the Manhattan Project, you have clearance
that defies all levels of understanding. In the military. You
have access to coding, special coding, you know, the cipher codes,
et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So you have a
built in resource for information. So then you're you're now

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looking at the one individual who supplies most everything in
your column of needs and wants to the suspect. But
now you've been able to plug the one hole that
you couldn't plug. But you can because now you have
a live in life partner who has access to all
of the information that corroborates everything else that you couldn't

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plug yet.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Okay, we're gonna have to take a commercial break here.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Okay, but you're O my god, my brain is about
to explain.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Actually, as you talk, I'm writing down questions as you're talking,
so I want to get questions. But but we got
to take a break. They've got to take a commercial break.
We'll be right back. Well, we're t A Powell and
she's the author of the book Lords of the Harvest,
a true crime investigative memoir, and we haven't even touched
on it yet. But the thing is is she's come

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up with a pattern or a thread that passes through
or connects, you might say, some of the biggest notorious
cases out there, the Black Dailey in nineteen forty six,
the Bosses Strangler, Columbus Stocking Stranglings, the Atlanta Missing Children,
right Zodiac Killer West Memphis three, which we we work
on here all the time, and the Atlanta Child cons

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And also to people need to know I'm in this book,
she mentions me in the book because of a show,
Because of the show we did with Cisco, the late
Great Cisco Street Love Great Man, I love them and
Santhia McKinney, the show we did with that. It's somehow
reference in the books. We'll be getting to that too,
So everyone's stay tuned. We got a lot and now

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welcome back to the Opperman Report. I'm your host, private
investigator at Opperman. We're here today with Ta Powell, author
of the book Lords of the Harvest, a true crime
investigative memoir. Now, just one more question on the psychic
thing and then we'll move on. Now, explain to me

(35:52):
exactly the procedure you use. Do you go sit in
a room? You know, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (36:00):
So this is this is this is what I love like.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
No Hoky pokey, there's no black same candles, there's nothing.
There's just incredibly talented individuals who have the gift of
sight beyond the veil, and they have their own particular
reason for working on this particular project, as I have
my own particular reason for working on this project. And

(36:27):
the book actually explains the whys and hows of how
we became entwined. We have now work together for probably
I know it's over a decade. Could be twelve thirteen
years at this particular juncture. And this other individual has

(36:47):
specific gifts that I do not. I have some gifts
that she does have, and I have some of my
very own. And it just works like a marvelous two
waves of radio where he receives information on a frequency
because it's me has a twenty t what I sell
it means. And most of the time she doesn't want

(37:08):
to know what it means. She just says here, and
I say, what the hell is that? And she says, well,
that's not my problem. That's here. You go figure it out.
And then I have to take the information and then
decipher what it means, and some information such as then
this will be most intriguing to you, seeing as you
know what we're speaking about is signature key. One of

(37:31):
the first things that they came through and she related
to me, was they said, to tell you what everything
you're thinking about the key? You think, again, that's not
what you're thinking, And I thought, well.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (37:44):
That doesn't really help me? And then the next time
they came through and they gave me a color of reference,
and again I had nothing to attach it to. And
so for period of two and a half years, and
that clue remained a mystery to me. But as I said,

(38:06):
I record absolutely everything because I know ultimately it will
reveal itself to me. And it did, and it did
so through the zodiacs Halloween card that was sent to
the San Francisco Chronicle.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
Okay, does that help you at all?

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Well, we don't live in the same state, we don't know.
We do everything remotely by phone, by email. Whatever.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
What makes you think they're.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Necessary to touch hands or sit in circles or wear feathers.
Your bang drums.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Are doing well, you should try the feathers. Maybe it'll
look better. But let me ask you a question. What
makes you know?

Speaker 3 (38:46):
We're doing pretty good so far? So I'm not worried
about it.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
But why would you attribute this to psychic powers or
speaking with the dead when you know ideas come to
me all the time, and hunches and things come to
me all the time, and maybe you give them more
way than I would. But like, why would you? How
did how did it come about? The attribute?

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Okay, I credit to spirit. What comes through spirit. The
rest of it, I understand is is intuition. You know,
if if if I were a cop, you'd say, oh,
it's your gut instinct. Okay, it's my gut instinct. I
choose to call it intuition. So I don't over credit them.

(39:26):
But I certainly would even remiss in not giving credit
where credit is due, and so I do so in
the book. But in that in respect to all of this,
it is a very small small part, okay, of this investigation,
but it does errant the mentioning, and so you know,
I would be remiss and disrespectful to the individuals who

(39:46):
have contributed on that level if I did not mention
that that was part of my my process. Unorthodox as
it is, but you know, it's not really as far
as fetched as you think. A lot of law enforcement
and use that as a tool in their arsenal for investigations.
They simply do not like to advertise that. And that's
perfectly fine. I'm not here to convince, convert or otherwise.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
You know, okay, and anither of Now, okay, both, what
is the thread we've come up with here that links
all these cases?

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Well, gos shul I tell you that. Who's gonna buy
the book?

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Dude?

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Okay, all right, let me help you out. Yeah, okay,
Very interestingly, enough, Okay, there are four particular persons of
interests that are spotlighted in this particular book. Two of
those individuals are known to have been military. All four
are known to be homosexuals, which is not you know,

(40:49):
I have no feeling one way or the other, and
simply stating a fact. The individuals were in the Army.
The Army was known to have had a history of
placing homosexual and people, so they considered extremely erratic or
exceptionally creative or genius or whatever they like to kind
of use the presidio as their dumping grounds for their

(41:10):
percity in California as their dumping grounds for this because
the homo specialists they did not want in general population,
and the others they felt that they could use them
in some of their more creative endeavors. You're hearing a
lot now. Until probably the last two or three years,

(41:32):
and before Netflix, hardly ever at all, you never heard
about MK Ultra or any of its precursor programs. But
MK Ultra and Artichoke were, and there's of course Naomi
and Bluebird and several other programs CIA undercover covert programs

(41:53):
that were used. And two of the individuals that are
spotlighted and in this particular book, one for sure had
a direct relationship with Lieutenant Colonel Michael lukea who was
in charge of MK Ultra programs through the presidio, and
that was the underground There were underground programs, uh corroborative

(42:18):
between the CIA and the Army Chemical Corps where they
did experiments on people using LSD. They were experimenting with
while under the effects of the you know, specific drugs whatnot.
Could they be instructed or influenced to do certain things.

(42:40):
One of things in the Artichoke program, which was highlighted
in a recent Netflix series on Frank Olsen's who was
a CIA and Army Uh. Actually he was not part
of the CIA, but he was an Army operative and scientists,
and the series is called Wormwood, and they believed that
he was assassinated. He was part of this original MK

(43:04):
Ultra program. And so what we do now is we
have on podcasts, so you actually have a live recording
of the voice of one of our persons of interest
talking about his experience as being participating in one of
these Artichoke and MK Ultra programs. Now, which you have

(43:26):
to understand about this was MK Ultra and artichoke. We're
part of covert training, assassination training for different killings, sleight
of hand, so that things could be planted in places,
poisons or drugs could be slipped into drinks, et cetera,
et cetera. And they learned from the magician I think

(43:48):
his name was Mulhollands was the last name of him.
But two of these individuals we believe participated in these
mk ultra programs. MK Ultra also used to gabble in
mind control and in mind control, what they would do
is they would put you under and either do sensitivity
deprivation or drug induced chase, and they would try and

(44:11):
induce schizophrenia where they would then break off into alternate
personalities and each alternate personality was given a control name,
and they were also given certain triggers that could be names,
it could be places, it could be words, it could
be smells, it could be sounds. It could also be colors.

(44:36):
And here's where all of this information for all of
these particular cases started to put into was we discovered
that the color red was one of the most prominent
MK ultra and arch trigger colors. Now you think, okay,
Jewish priest. You've got red, you've got green, you've got blue,

(44:57):
you've got yellow, and those are all primary colors.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
And what idiot, you.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
Know, where are you not going to find something that
has those colors? No matter what it is crime seeing
them all in there, your living room, your bathroom, it
doesn't matter. However, when you start looking very closely at
some of these cases, especially in regards to the Atlanta
Missing and Murdered Children cases, I was able to document

(45:22):
cases of hard physical evidence presenting the color of red.
In twenty three of it was either twenty three, Yeah,
twenty three is the twenty nine cases where each one
of the victims was wearing red. In the case of
the abduction of Johnny Gosch from Des Moines, Iowa, which

(45:43):
was part of the mt Ultra program with the covert
governmental links to Lawrence King's operations under the CIA in
the nineteen fifties, he was targeted. He was pulling a
little red wagon. So you look at some of these things,
and an instance for the Columbus Stocking strangling Kathleen Woodruff,

(46:05):
who was one of the founding family members of Coca Cola,
which which is why they should be so interesting to Atlanta,
and uh, the Coca Cola corporation itself is because she
was a victim of the Columbus Stocking strangler. She was
strangled with the red Uga star. And you say, oh, well, okay,

(46:27):
you know women have lots of scars. Well, it was
a red Uga stars that was given to her by
her husband. The individual who we believe whose person of
interests who strangled her went to Auburn or just the
arch enemy of Uga. So how ironic and yet somehow
sarcastic that he would strangle her let me red scar.

(46:53):
For earlier you had mentioned were laying next to red lamp.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Now earlier you had mentioned that for that these had
these killings with some of the characters in volment these
killings would find their victims at campgrounds. Did you examine
the case of Carrie Strainer, the Stephen Strainer case at
the seventy killer?

Speaker 3 (47:14):
No, that I have none. I would be interested. Yeah,
you've got to take a look at that.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Yeah, look, find my shows that I've done on this.
I have extra witnesses and have a PI and a
bail bondsman it was involved in that case. It's right
up Beeath the sally here if you.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Send me information. I swear to you, within probably thirty
to sixty seconds of looking over crime scene material Ammy reports,
I can tell you if she's a victim or not
because here's what they did. They use such signature things.
And this is why it was so ridiculous. Well, actess
is the ridiculous again. I have the luxury of hind sight,

(47:52):
which is always twenty twenty. But you know, when you're
even talking about the Columbus talking stranglings, and you're talking
about the boss and stranglings, if you look at that,
plus the I believe her name was Kettering or Right
in Columbus, she was also strangling. But the deal is
is that in the Boston strangling, the Columba strangling things,

(48:13):
Kettering or Right strangelings, and there's several other stranglings to
cass and I one. I don't want laver each question,
but each one of those, you know it was ritualistic killing. Okay.
All of these people also belong to the Star of Falimo,
which is a Victorian cult based upon the Tureau. It's
a Masonic cabal.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Okay, that's Crowley, right, then that's Crowley, right, Balima.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Yes, Crowley, Hey, all right, good, yes, yeah, all right,
then the learning curve is gonna be so much very
easier for you on this one. Okay. The marvelous thing
about that is is that when you look at each
one of those cases, when you go back to like
the Boston stranglings, you look at them and you have
the number of literatures which surround the neck. Now, some
of the individuals were actually manually strangled, in which case

(49:03):
there was no reason for ligature whatsoever. However, you look
at them and you go three. Some of them have
three and four ligatures around the neck, which then tells
you specifically, this is a ritualistic style killing the specific
knots in the Boston strangling and also in some of
the Columbus Stocking stranglings. You look at it and you go, okay. So,
if you're now looking at a ritualistic and you understand

(49:25):
the Star of the Lima, and you understand Teruro, and
you understand the Masonic cabal, and you understand probably's attachment
to the Book of the Dead and Liver all et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera, then you also understand other things
that are important to them, other things that could be
signature words, landmarks, etc. The ligature is extremely important. Why

(49:47):
because in the Book of the Dead it tells you
to that that is the link between life and death,
between you know, the Mud and creation of man. In
the Book of the they prefer seven ligatures, but you
would at least do three ligatures. And then there are
also you had some information about one of the Columbus

(50:11):
Stockings strangler survivors said that there was an issue of
it was so bizarre. And in the zodiac as well,
there's there's a documented case where the most significant thing
that these people were remembering was that the killer never
once said a word, never once said a word. I mean,
you're in the throes of being strangled, murdered. Albeit okay,

(50:36):
there's generally, you know, something being had usually you know,
it's just it would be unusual for there to be
absolute silence. But because we understand the association between all
four of these individuals and Alfa Crowley okay, and the
third order of the universe, and we wants also understand

(50:57):
that he, just as the others were on daring what
they call the Angel of Silence eyewas all right, and
that was an inspiration of Alistair Crowley that as you
basically kill it's lord of the silence. And what you're
doing is the third order of the universe is emulating
the rights and the rituals. Well, the word right itself

(51:19):
rite equates actually to the word red R E D.
So you have the color quoted triggers not only from
m kal truth being suggestive as targeting, but you also
have the right itself as a color quoted trigger for red.
Then you have the Angel of silence, which means all
of these murders were committed in silence, all right. Then

(51:42):
you have victims who are targeted because they're wearing red.
In the case of the Atlanta murders, you know, you
hit somebody who was wearing at the time they used
to deal with the fro picks in the hair well.
The kids had a red fro pick and his father
said in his witness testimony, the last time I saw
him walk out the door, he was wearing this, this
and this and this and this and that red propack. Okay.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
Or they had a.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Red wallet, a red shoes, or a red stripe in
their socks, a red stripe in their shirt.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
And in the book it lists absolutely.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
Everything they were wearing. A red jersey. They were wearing
a red pair of pants. They were wearing this. Each
one of these individual cases, we've gone through the Emmy reports,
and we've also gone through you know, the crime Sine
reports with the actual physical evidence located, and each one
of them there was a signature of rat You cannot

(52:33):
dismiss a pattern like that that goes through you know,
multiple killings, you know, you just you simply can't dismiss it.
And then you start to extrapolate and you look at
other cases and kay, okay, what are the cases that
we're looking at now? We're looking at the Columbus and
stocking stranglers were looking at the number of literatures. We're

(52:53):
looking at that as a signature of this, But they
were also looking at the specific knot that was tied,
which was not just a regular knot or a nautical knot.
It was the knot of Isis, which is a direct
correlation back to Alexair Crowley's you know, obsession with all
things ancient Egyptian. So they're just various.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
Things that.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Did you kind of have to think outside the box
in order to find Now, when you also look at
the Atlanta murders and you look at also. Okay, you
can look at the Boston stranglings too, and you can
go through there. Somebody was wearing a red brooch.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
Somebody was.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
Had a red wine bottle, somebody was wearing a house
coat with red. They were strangled with, you know, a
red pair of you know, a bra or something. Each
one of these things has something. And then when you
come back to the Atlanta mess and murdered children, you
also see the introduction of the colored green, all of
the green fibers, you know, the green faded station wagon.

(53:56):
I mean, there's just a multitude of things that we
see matters in each one of these cases that stand out.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Have you looked into the smiley face color?

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Very interesting? I did look because one of the first
ones that showed up there was the red feather.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
And have you looked into the Son of Sam cult
in New York.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
I have never been drawn to that, really, because d.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
It's all connected. What would make you ignore that?

Speaker 3 (54:31):
Like I said before, I am specifically drawn to the
information and I trust that intuition. So if I'm not
drawn towards something, I don't expend energy there. So it's
not that I discredit or disregard cases sometimes I've never
heard of cases. Obviously I've heard of Son of Sam.

(54:53):
But you also have to understand that the when I
started this book, this book was brought to game because
somebody in Columbus said, hey, we don't think that Carlton
Gary committed these murders. He's on death row, you know,
and in essence, can you help here some background information
to help get you started. And then we progressed from

(55:14):
that to other understandings that the individual in Columbus also
had a white station wagon and an interior design business
and was floating between at Lambha and Columbus. Will how
very convenient. Then you go through all of the police
reports and witness statements that we had available, and I

(55:36):
worked with Wayne William's former power of attorney, Jenny Bullock
on that, and she was able to share some of
the files that Homer and Wayne had and had entrusted
to her, and we went through that. We were able
to find all kinds of corroborations of not only signatures
of red, but also of green, you know, the green fibers,

(55:56):
the green bed sheet that a body was wrapped in,
just all kinds of things, the names of rogue greens,
you know names of victims also Green. In fact, one
of the individuals who we talked, Well, I sent you
some information on this one of the victims.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
That we believe.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
Was murdered by the landscaper from Columbus. Her last name
was Green. Now you just think, okay, so, what's the
correlation there. Well, apparently or supposedly, excuse me, this man
was declared legally dead in twenty ten. Well, I have
an alias in another state that continues to post this

(56:41):
woman's photo on the anniversary of her death. Let me
post other very interesting peatures, all of which are are
included in the book.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Have you ever done any kind of investigations to see
if these people are connected their IP addresses or kind
of information. Then again, has there been any investigation to
see if these people would be connected through their IP address.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
If there are connections, there are connestions. So, as I said,
you know, all of this information has been turned over
responsibly to FBI, those that are relating to the state
of Georgia GBI. As I said, we have eyewitnessed photo identifications.
Not only have photos on a particular site that reference

(57:31):
part of the quote is part of so and so
Green is here forever, and it's a photo of a
pink rose, which is exceptionally symbolic to these killers. Well,
the photo is on this alias's Facebook page. Well, the

(57:52):
person who bought the estate of the supposed dead individual
identified it as being the exact same background and garden
area of the estates they purchased, and also of a
nursery which he owned, which by the way, was at

(58:12):
thirteenth Street and thirteenth Avenue. Very celtic. So you know
you have patterned upon pattern upon pattern upon pattern that
continues to reveal itself. I'm going to let you ask
another question because I know I've gone on too long.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
No, it's okay. We've got another break coming up in
a couple of minutes. What about Have you ever watched
the series? It's a YouTube series called Program to Kill
a Satanic cover Up.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
No, I spend because I'm full time, a full time
employee as a theater director, I have a very little
free time. My free time is spent in research and writing.
I do. However, before I do, want you to send
me the name of that case that you that you
both previously, I didn't get a chance to write it down.

(59:03):
But no, I don't always have the opportunity again when
and I know this sounds crazy, but it's not really.
People who do this for a living and who function
within this realm understand this completely. That when I need information,
something will be presented to me several times, and you know,

(59:27):
I'll go to it. If it's not presented, then I don't.
I don't waste the energy because I have the understanding
already that i'm you know, I maybe just shooting myself
down a rabbit hole that has no return on my investment.
So if I don't feel drawn towards something, I don't,
I don't investigate it. But here again, there are cases

(59:47):
that I had not heard of, such as there were
cases in Richland, Georgia, which I had not heard of
because Richland is a very tiny, tiny rural town in
southern Georgia, and I had not heard about them before
until someone has brought them up. And because I heard
the name Richland more than four times in the course
of seventy two hours, I went, okay, all right, so

(01:00:08):
this mor is investigating. And when I started doing investigating,
then you know, other things appeared and information started presenting
itself in evidence, et cetera. That corroborated that there have
been potential involvement in the murders of several teenage girls
in that particular area by one of our persons of interests.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Okay, good time to take a break well with Ta Powell.
The book is Lords of the Harvest, a true crime
investigative memoir. When we come back, I'm going to ask
you what thread connections you found in the West Memphis
three case to all this. Obviously the crowding connection it's there,
and also too, probably the ligatures, the quote unquote hog

(01:00:55):
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It was hands of foot, hands to foot on each side.
But we'll get to that after these messages. Yeah, I
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the Harvest, a true crime investigative memoir which you can
find on Amazon. You can find it on your website,
Lords Ofthharvest dot com and also to her other website

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about the second political fast. Yeah, what's the name of
the publishing website.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
The publishing website also is Brownston Literary Works dot.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Com Brownstone with an E at the end, Brownstone Literaryworks
dot com. So, now, what did you come up with
the on on the West Memphis three?

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Okay, you obviously mentioned the hog tying, et cetera, et cetera.
Several of the other signature elements where they were found
by a ravine. Okay, there's always Most often they're found
by a ravine or a water source of some sort.
If you look at the particure victims and cell STEVIEE.
Branch was found. He was last seen in blue jeans,

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a white T shirt on a black and red bicycle.
Christopher Flyers. Okay, by the brown hair. He was last
thing in blue jeans, dark us white long fleeting shirt.
But there was a I believe he had a wallet
that had red and green and the blue jeans had

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red stripes red.

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
V on the pocket.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Michael Moore. It was the last scene in blue Pants,
Blue Boy Boy, Scout of America shirt orange and blue
boy scout on a light green bicycle. So again you
had a combination of red and green. Red was the
color code for one of our persons of interest. Green
was the color code for our other person of interest.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
Also, we had also been given the heads up to
pay attention for a particular a particular serial killing that
mentioned in its title abandoned bicycles, which, of course both
the red and green bicycles were found and they were

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listed in most all of the newspaper articles as being abandoned.
But there were several other things that came along with that,
and I'm trying to reference that through excuse me, my
manuscript here, so as we talk, we can we can

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do what else that we came up with that?

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Do you have other persons of interest in that case
besides the three men that were convicted?

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
Oh? Absolutely. In fact, the one highly have one individual
who in that particular instance, who is my landscaper from Columbus,
who was known to traverse to West Memphis. Actually the
other individual, the poet as well, travels there. And if
you remember, there is what in in Memphis. Since you're

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an Alistair Crowley devotee.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Yeah, what's his name?

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
It has a pyramid.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
One more time.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
There as a pyramid. There's a pyramid.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
There's a pyramid in Memphis, in West Memphis.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
There's a photo of it in the book. Originally there
was supposed to be three. The original architect. What he
was trying to do was on the Tennessee of believe
it as a Tennessee reader. He was trying to set
up a replica of Giza, and so in essence he
was playing he was going to pay all three pyramids
at the exact you know, obviously correlating to Orion's Belt,

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which was you know, obviously a non to Alistair Crowley
book of the Dead Liberalla. But only one of them,
because they ran out of money, was actually ever built.
And at the top of it was a shortwave radio station.
And we know that one of our persons of interest
was extremely educated an experience was shortwave and ham radio

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because he spent his childhood studying and doing with his father.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Okay, and do we have the names of this the
landscaper and the poet. Do you name them in your book?

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
Yes, we do. They are in They are in the book.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
What are their names?

Speaker 4 (01:10:12):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
The American poet laureate Robert Edward Duncan, who actually changed
his original birth name so that his initials would spell
the word R E D.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
Duncan.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
And because this man is Duncan, yeah, okay. And because
this man, the second person, is legally declared dead, we
can use his name. And his name is Lee Bayard.
He's a landscaper from Columbus, Georgia.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
How do you spell that?

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
B A.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
B A Y A R D A R D Okay.
And if Robert Duncan, Robert every Duncan wants to come
on and then give his side of the story, He's
welcome to come on. Tell us that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
He came through in the book quite quite violently. So
I think that would be an enjoyable read for those
who so. I like that I actually came through on
the anniversary Ofce's death. The interesting thing about the other
individual the two other individuals, one I cannot legally name

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because he is still alive.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Okay, So both Duncan and Bayard are both dead.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
I will say that, yes, Duncan is definitely dead. Mister
Bayard is legally declared dead. However, I have an alias
who hits his profile who seems very much alive. And
the third individual is a man who is known as
Jeff Collins, who is a renowned artist. And so I'm

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literally placing myself out on the line because these are
very known people within their circles, their disciplines, their realms.
But if you read the book and you understand the
totality of all of the information, I believe it will

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corroborate many of the subbisions that some of the people
who were closest to them during their lifetime actually held
that there was much more to these individuals than met
the eye, and that very much of their life was
hidden and they lived double lives.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
So this lead Bayard and this Robert Edward Duncan, they're
connected also to it, to the Atlanta child murders.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
Yes, Lee Bayard, I believe that his white station leg
in which he owned inherited from his mother in Columbus,
was used frequently to move. As he would say it
was in some court transcripts from a previous court case
in regard to the Mary Sue Ogletree murder, that he

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used to travel between Columbus and Atlanta as an interior decorator,
picking up faverage samples and carpet samples, and this vehicle
was used. Now, I have seen this vehicle in person,
I've filmed and photographed it, and I have found an
theredale well documented. It's with my attorney, but they're also

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documented in the book. There are thirteen very specific hasher
what'll call kill marks that are located in the vehicle
that have been documented for evidence. Has written known to
have traveled between Atlanta and Columbus, and many of the
dates correlated with his time in Atlanta. Mister Duncan I

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believe was probably involved in one or two of those killings,
as well as one or two in Columbus, as he
lived in the state of California and traveled only by plane, greyhound,
bus or train.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Now, the four names you have here, do they have
any kind of a criminal background, criminal rest record from
the visions.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
Now, which is why it's incredibly hard for anybody to well, No,
I shouldn't say that. I believe mister Bayard has some things,
although somethings uh he was charged with and then they
were removed from his.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Had.

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
I do know that he had had several run ins
with law enforcement. However, I'm not sure that any of
them have remained on record.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Now, what is it that drew your attention to these
men suspects in all these cases?

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
An individual, like I said, the book introduces an individual
who came to me who was concerned with the Mary
Suite Ogletree case because she believed that mister Bayard had
murdered her and that another man was in prison serving
life her crime he did not commit. And she and
another individual then UH invited me for a meeting and

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gave me some background information and what not to move forward.
And in the process of our cotive investigation as well
as then moving on to the Atlanta and we're working
with Jimmy Bullock, we were able to find some very

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interesting patterns that led us to other information and so
we continued in our research and were able to take together.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
Okay, I know who you talked about. The two people
sent me that iveryment too as well. I forget the names,
but I know we were talking about, Okay, and the
mental was very It was voluminous, you know. It was
an overwhelming amount of material that they sent me the way,
more than I could ever sit down and look through.
But it involved a lot of UH that had occult
material inside one of these guys' homes.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
Yeah, there was a there was some speculations, hold.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
On just seconds I got the dog maybe at the
Son of Sam dog.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
Yeah, there was some There was information uh that related
to UH an individual's obsession with Alistair Crowley, okay, and
other other some other reference culture reference materials. But it
the material itself was not fleshed out enough and there

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could be no tithes connected between these individuals to other kills.

Speaker 4 (01:16:51):
Other.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
Other individuals. And so that's kind of where my investigation
and research took off. I used there's a background information
and then moved forward with from there, proceeding with my
own investigation until I started working heavily into the Atlanta
Missing and Murdered children, where then I teamed up with

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my colleague UH, Jimmy Bullock, and she and I continued
on from there along.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Did you ever get a chance to talk to Cisco?

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
I did not, which is which is an absolute crime,
because his information on the Oakland Juney child killings in Michigan.

Speaker 4 (01:17:39):
H was on.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
He was absolute about that Michigan is a haven for
child sex trafficking, especially Fox Island, and so he absolutely
was extremely inspirational in me taking a good hard look

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at some of the other information that I had that
eventually ended up lining up with a lot of the
things that he had. Well, we see, I'm trying I
was trying to find specific reference in there, okay, because
he talked about in your particular In fact, it's recorded here.

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I'm basically fifty four that I'm talking about your Opferman
radio podcast interview with Cynthia McKinney and Siscuster Great Love
and the suspicions of an expansive sex rang which connected
places like Portland and New York, Washington, Las Vegas, Atlanta,
and Oakland. Now, the significant of Oakland is very important

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because it has several meanings. One of the two of
the individuals were actually from Oakland, California, and so there
was some significance there. But there were also things that
in the crime scenes themselves that spoke to I guess

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you would say more patterned evidence. There was green in
many of any of the specific things that were mentioned
in the crime scenes, at least for four of the victims,
that all of them, because I believe there were total
of five, but there were I'm trying to find it
here in my manuscripts but there was there was evidence

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of color coordination and the street names that had reference
and significance for these people like Berkeley and Green Road,
Greenfield Road, So there are many of the things. And
then it was a lot of the significant commonalities were
present for each one of them is killed. And so

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I continued to look into them, and then, as I said,
discovered more during my research that led me to other
informations which corroborated that we believe that they were connected
to these individuals in the killing spree that was nationwide
and for over you know, four decades, and.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
You would tell me off the air before that, these
general even though their names were never listed as suspects
in these cases.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
Now, which of course is one of the reasons why.
You know, obviously it's really hard to find a killer
if you've never seen them do anything wrong or you've
never uh, you know, they're not going to list it
be listed anywhere, their fingerprints are going to show up
and in CODUS or anything, you know, any of the
national databases that you would have where now law enforcement

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would be able to try and cross pollinator, cross reference.

Speaker 4 (01:20:59):
It's just.

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
It's difficult. But when you, like I said before, you
look at the information. Hen lot of information and all
of the location. There was a book that was really
about one of the individuals. It was an auto or
it was a biography about them.

Speaker 4 (01:21:22):
And it was marvelous book.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
Marvelous book. But it unwittingly turned out to be exceptionally
resourceful for myself because it had names of places, dates, people, locations,
et cetera, travel plans, which then allowed me to be
able to place some of these persons of interest in
locations at trying slots where some of these murders took place.

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So you know, you have motive which is cultic and
triggered by color and whatever, but then you also have
the opportunity and significance.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
Of mo Wait, so then with the with the west,
when you give significance to the boys bicycles and and
a T shirt they wearing stuff like that. Uh now,
so you'd think that the killers targeted them because you
just saw them that day with those outfits, or were
they targeted in advance?

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
They were most likely targeted somewhat of an advance. You
also have to remember, while you may not know, well,
if you've done a lot of research, you remember, then
let me see if I can pull this up for you.
In one of the listings of physical hm, there were

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three red sticks that were part of the physical evidence
that was.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
Some of the West Memphis three Yes, okay, yeah, yeah,
there were some sticks that they were they were just
holding down clothing and stuff like that into the into
the mud.

Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
Mm hmm. But but here again you have the significance
he sticks for painted.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
Read Oh really, I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
Yes, it's listed in the I was trying to find
the the particular reference for it in here, but it's
listed in there in there. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
Physical also too. You know there is a testimony that,
uh that Echols was seen taking a picture and when
one little boys went to his home one day and
he says, hey, some guy just took a picture of
beyindside and they believe that was Echels and also to
Echoes used to walk around with a briefcase, used to
carry around, and they believe he had anything. And he

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also said in the softball girls, he's the I kill.
I got three more picked out. So you know, there's
a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
Indicate, that's a lot of there's a tremendous amount of
information that points to and like I say, when I
say that these people were involved. It doesn't mean that
maybe they have been involved dependently of others, because there
are also references for some of the individuals in West

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Memphis three family members of being bisexual or suspicious, you know,
otherwise behavior. So I'm not saying that, you know, any
of these other people may be potentially excluded. Well, they
can be potentially excluded, but I'm not disregarding them.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
There's no way potential it's either the three or a
time separately. There's no way they were all in conjunction
with each other. That's just impossible because it's just when
it came out. By now it's you know, it's just impossible.
But I would believe that there would be other cult members,
other cult members involved with the three if you look
at the whole. I don't want to get into, but
what about like Arlist Perry or the Arlest Perry case.

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Have you looked into that case Arlest Perry up there
in Stanford, California. No, I haven't, Okay, And Jeff McDonald
that would.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
Be interested if you'll send me that name.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
Oh yeah, that's that's all the same. It's a forget it.
They had your body was positioned like a freemason. That
the that the compass, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
And it's similar to Elizabeth Short exactly right.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
And what about Jeff McDonald. Have you looked into the
Jeff McDonald case in the four bragg was stationed.

Speaker 3 (01:25:40):
Thing about your your case there that has the positioning
of the body is many of the bodies were always staged,
especially the female one. There's a set of four out
in Colorado that have very much the same staging of
the legs in the the compass formation, just the same
as Elizabeth Short, which her particular confirmation or whatever was

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focused towards Degnan Boulevard, which were of course. Degnant is
the last name of the third victims in the nineteen
forty five forty six Chicago lipstic murders of Sir Susan Degnan.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
That's interesting. You know in the alcal the Rodney al
Khala case, the Dating Game killer, he positioned one of
his victims facing Marlon Brando's house.

Speaker 4 (01:26:31):
Okay, yeah, you think that, I'm not saying.

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
You know a lot of these a lot of these
individuals were not necessarily.

Speaker 4 (01:26:46):
The original.

Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
In their in their executions, as we know in the
in the Zodiac killing, you know, a lot of their
just does was taken from comic book sources. You know,
the whole thing, the wheel of death, by gun, by fire,
by your knife, by rope, all of that. Now there

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is an interesting thing, and I will say this on
air because I want this on air, and I want
this credited because this was not this was not specifically
brought up, which I think is interesting in the recent
Zodiac Hunt for the Zodiac series, and so I kind
of would like this on air. I know that sounds crazy,

(01:27:32):
but I would like this on the air the fire
before before anything, so anybody gets to it. But they
were in the in one of the sessions, they were
speaking with Zodiac's historian and her name is miss g Ohansson,
and she was speaking in reference to the Red Mask

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comic book and also the tenl comic series that had
the Wheel of Death on it. And so the particular
Halloween card that had the by death by fire, by
this by that, uh, I think that was the Paradise Slave.

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I'm trying to find it here on my thing. But anyway,
if you look it up and you go to the
photo of it, I'm trying to pull this up for you.
But it specifically refers to the well you know what

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I've done.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Yeah, we have another commercial.

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
Oka, you have another commercial.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
Yeah, in two minutes, so you can look for it
during the break. But what about now with the zodiac?
Did you look into the whole theory about the Farron
I think got her first name with Farron and her
involvement with with a cult that did you look into that?

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
Yes, But once again, I was only growing from the
information that continued to corroborate all of the previous research
that I that we had done using these individuals, and
so I was not particularly led to look at at
that particular individual.

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
Well then don't you consider that a hindrance to investigation
if you're if you're not looking into things because you're
not receiving it from these these psychic.

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
Uh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Please don't misunderstand.
I'm not saying that I don't if I look at something,
or if I if I do some research on it,
I am not seeing patterns that that continue with the
patterns that I know are relevant in all of the
other cases, and I know that are relevant to our
killers and the information that I have received from in

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depth research on them. I just you know, I don't
spend extremaneous amounts of time on chasing down every rabbit
hole of every you know, every suspect, because virtually there
have been how many suspects for the Zodiac Killer? What?
Hundreds and hundreds of people have been spouted as you know,

(01:30:14):
somebody's biological fathers, somebody don't go, somebody's great dead this
or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:30:18):
So I just I.

Speaker 3 (01:30:20):
Follow where the evidence leads me, as opposed to just
you know, going off and looking and looking and looking.
Because you know, when you continue to follow the evidence
and you let the evidence be the common denominator and
not just follow popularity or follow you know, multiple conjectures,

(01:30:44):
but you allow the evidence itself to lead you, the
evidence will narrow down your field of suspects somewhat dramatically.
And once you continue to be able to corroborate the
evidence with the individuals that you already have a well,
you know, a well based of knowledge about, and it

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continues to lead the way, and it continues to corroborate,
then that is the trail that I will find. You know,
just as every other investigator, you know, you continue to
follow the evidence and you disregard suspects along the way
as they fall off the train of being able to
corroborate or plug them into situations. If they're not in
timelines or there, they don't fit this, they don't fit that,

(01:31:25):
then those people basically get kind of tossed off the
evidence train. And as long as the evidence continues to
corroborate and fall in line with what is known and
what can be vetted and researched and proved about these
individuals and their locations and their agendas and their signatures
and their pattern behaviors, then they continue to stay on

(01:31:46):
that train.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
Well, I think with the Zodiac, I think everyone is
pretty much to agree by now that it was Ted
CRUs right, I think we will settle on.

Speaker 3 (01:31:58):
We'll go to commercial.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
Okay, well, that's a good time to take a break.
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Sense of you. I appreciate that. You know a lot
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The Lord. No, that's a good question. So I'm gonna
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It Offerman, and we are here with T. A. Powell.
Lords of the Harvest are true crime investigative memoir. You

(01:37:07):
could find a book at the Lords at the Harvest
dot com, but also two ches a website for a
publishing company. What is can you? Can you read that
off to us again the publishing company.

Speaker 3 (01:37:21):
Sure, if they just go to the website www dot
Brownstone Literary Works dot com, they'll be able to pull
up all the information on the books the blog site
which is anatomy of a murder, and they'll continue to
receive them from updated information and also have links to

(01:37:43):
all of my other novels.

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
Now being involved in this kind of work, okay, and
looking into these kind of people and even exposing them.
Some of these people throughout history, recent history, people have
become victims of psychic attacks okay, from from both the
Kino and from the West Memphis three crowd and stuff

(01:38:06):
like that, like from Cisco was you know, Cisco was
in very bad shape at the end there, you know,
and there was a woman, Curio Jones, who was a
driven mad Have you experienced any of this kind of attack? Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:38:24):
I think the art to this and is that knowing
and understanding your place within the journey of this particular
venture or any venture like this, such as Chet dent Linger.
Chet dent Linger was by far the most gifted investigator

(01:38:47):
in the Atlanta Missing and Murdered children, and he was
so incredibly close. He was so on top of almost everything.
And if you've read his book called The List, and
you understand that he had gotten he had deciphered the
pattern and understand the pattern so well that he was
able to then predict where the next victim would be

(01:39:10):
taken from and where they would be left.

Speaker 4 (01:39:14):
What he didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:39:15):
Understand was the one signature thing that kept ringing out
throughout his entire book. And when I purchased it and
then spent you know, I can't even tell you how
many countless hours I mean, because this this we're probably
between four and five thousand hours worth of research over
the last four and a half years and ongoing research
continuing through this particular entire case load here is that

(01:39:40):
had he just understood he was following. In fact, he
even mentioned that, you know, everything seemed to take place
in a clockwise direction. What he wasn't understanding that was
he was following the zodiac in the locations of these murders.
And what he also was understanding was that each one

(01:40:02):
of these murders had the elements of red because a
lot of them were being based in the direction at
to and from red Wine Lake, which is a specific
place in Atlanta for those who live in the area.
Like I said, twenty three out of twenty nine, we've

(01:40:22):
been able to show corroborative elements of physical red, either
by name, by physical evidence, etc. In each one of
these murders. And the only reason why I haven't tapped
into all twenty nine is because quite frankly, I haven't
had access to all twenty nine cases the files, because

(01:40:43):
I only had limited access to the limited files that
were in the hands of Jenny Bullock, who had been
granted that by both Wayne Williams, who she was his
power of attorney at the time, and also by Homer
Wimes things like that you can literally spend your life

(01:41:04):
and Chut dead Linger got to the point where his
obsession affected his family so much so that his family
afterward destroyed a great deal of his work, which I
dearly wish they had not. But I understand that it
takes a toll on family, on your emotions, because you

(01:41:24):
are so emotionally invested in what it is you're doing.
But at the same time you have to understand that
the ultimate goal is not for you. It is for
the victims. It is for the victims' family, and it
is for their right to seek and to find some
sense of closure. And if any information can be gifted

(01:41:45):
them and can be vetted and proven, then God speak,
because this is for them. This is not It is
not about Tha Powell. It is not about Jimmy Bullock
or any of the other people who contributed along the way.
This is an essence for every victim and the families
of each one of these victims who have been left

(01:42:07):
staring at the ceiling asking why every night, and then
asking who.

Speaker 4 (01:42:13):
And you have to.

Speaker 3 (01:42:13):
Understand and respect your place and your part in that equation,
and my place and my part in that equation is
to follow evidence, to ask questions that haven't been asked,
to detect patterns that haven't been detected, to use my
unorthodox process which I'm out there a Granted it's not

(01:42:37):
everybody's kept the tea, but it's part of my particular
process and it leads me to credible and actionable evidence
that can be used in a court of law. And
that is what my goal is, is to be able
to gift back to these families and these other victims
a chance to piece these puzzles together so that they

(01:42:57):
can try and make sense of what happened and why
it's happened. It doesn't come with automatic acceptance. In fact,
I've had many, many opposite reactions to what it is
I do, and sometimes that's hurtful, But I understand that
loss is part of the identity of these victims families,

(01:43:19):
and they don't need every Tom Dick or Harry going well,
I got it, I got the truth. Here, I can
tell you exactly how it happened and how it went
it down, and who did it and whatever, which is
why I do not release information until I am finished
investigating the case. Now that being said, I would like

(01:43:40):
to go back just for half a second to this
revelation that I want to get on air as of
December for this the twenty ninth, or I think, good
God of mine, I know you're really cutting out the
sell end on the twenty ninth of December to tell
you that if you were to go online and you

(01:44:00):
went to www. And this is in the book, so
you can just you can see it in the book
when you purchase it, and it explained it in greater depth.
But if you went to the uh I think it's
a wwwmk dot zodiac dot com. But if you look
at you can go anywhere and find that. Though if
you look at the Paradise Slaves layout where it's the

(01:44:22):
Paradise Slaves, you know the cross and then it has
by fire by knife, by gun by rope. Now, mister
Johansson on this recent hunt for the Zodiac series, UH,
it was your reference this saying that you know this
particular by gun by knife, this particular mantra was not,

(01:44:43):
you know, obviously original to the Zodiac now and in
fact he had copied it from a Temple comic book.
That's not necessarily everything that I'm concerned with. If you
actually look the actual diagram yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:44:59):
You we'll see that the word.

Speaker 3 (01:45:01):
By b y as in by fire, by gun, I
wrote by knife, is three times written, and it's written horizontally.
However there's one time that it is written vertically. Now,
if you look above it, you have the two letters

(01:45:22):
from E, from fire and from slave, so that when
you read it you circle es ees stands for Elizabeth Short,
which was the black Dallia Ees by knife. Then if
you go to the other top where you see paradise,
and you go to your right, you see P, the

(01:45:43):
letter P. Then you see the word by which is
written vertically again, and then you go down it says
P by gun, which is a cab driver Paulstein. So
when the zodiac leaves clues, even when you think you've
discovered all of the clues that you can from a
particular image or letter or et cetera document presented by

(01:46:11):
a killer who is this clever, you still have to
go back in and sometimes you have to look for what.
You look at it, and you can look at it
a million times, a million times, a million times, and
then all of a sudden you realize the word bis
written three way, three times one way, but one way,
one time another way. Why, And that's the question you

(01:46:35):
have to ask why, because that's a clue to something else.
And also when you look at the word nice knife,
the end is inverted. In other words, one of our
gentlemen was dislike sick. Now we know that one of
them had an eye injury when he was very young

(01:46:55):
and had to wear a corrective eyewear for a very
long time after the fact. So these are different things
that an investigator will look into. And that's what my
part of the equation is. That's my job. My job
is to ask the questions that haven't been asked, look
at the things that have been looked at a million times,
and look at it, maybe from an angle that no

(01:47:16):
sane person would ever look at it from, and then
see if there's something that has been missed. Because I
could even look at you know, as a writer, and
other writers will can attest to this. And it doesn't
matter what you write, whether you write fiction or no
fiction or whatever. You can look at a many manuscript
one hundred times over and go, God, it got it,

(01:47:36):
got it. I've edited until I can't see anymore. And
then another person will pick it up and they go, oh,
my God, and even spelled the word chat on page
four you know, and you go, that's not possible, and
you look at you kat Oh, my god, the ate
what a fine with me? So these are the things
that I do. This is my purpose in this So

(01:47:57):
no I understand when my part of the journey is over,
I need to be able to divorce myself and walk away,
because if I stay too long in that rabbit hole,
I'm eclipsing somebody else's opportunity of finding something else that
I missed. And that's kind of at the point where
I'm at here where I need to just finish, finish

(01:48:21):
what I need to finish, keep my eyes and ears open.
I do add to the addendum here and there. Occasionally
I may pull the book down and add any additional
informations that corroborate and help substantiate something, because, as I
said before, this book is not only written for readers,
but this book is also written for law enforcement. And

(01:48:42):
so if I run across additional evidence or information, or
I witness testimony that helps anything expulpatory that may help
a current pending case, I have a moral obligation and
a responsible duty as an investigator make sure that that
information is supplied, it does. It serves no good for

(01:49:04):
me to put it in a manuscript, shove it in
a drawer and go oh ten years later. Yeah, yeah,
I've kind of told him that he'd have been out
of prison. So that's my job.

Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
Well, we got about five minutes left. Do you want
to sum up as much as you can? Give people
an idea what they'll find when you buy the book.

Speaker 3 (01:49:24):
This book will will literally take you places and teach
you things that you know. Somebody once told me, you
know what true crime? All they want is blood and gods,
come on, why are you writing all this crap? And
he wants to be educated. They're not interested in learning
anything about that. I just want to know who did it,

(01:49:46):
how they did it, where they did it, and where
they left the body. No, that's called a commercial. This
book is not a commercial. It won't pretend to be
a commercial. This book will you through the actual investigation
of everything that needs to be uncovered and understood, so

(01:50:07):
that the end of the book you look at it
and you say, I would have a hard time finding
innocence where there now appears to be guilt, or I
would have a hard time allowing these victims to go
unheralded because other people are not paying attention to this information.

(01:50:31):
I'm not saying, you know, I'm the only person who's
ever discovered some of these things. As I said, there
were several different researchers that helped me in the course
of this book, but predominantly the bulk of research after
the Columbus issues started coming forth through a lot of
the Atlanta Missing and Murdered Children cases, which gave us

(01:50:51):
even more information and opened us up to a world
of other eyewitnesses and individuals who started stepping forward and
providing information that's had previously not been recorded elsewhere. So
if you want something that will teach you something, but
that will take you on a journey and it will
help you understand the toutality of these serial killings and

(01:51:14):
why these people were never caught, because you know everybody's
going to say, well, hell, you know, if it was
any good, they'd already have these people. We're not talking
about people who are unintelligent. We're not talking about one person,
which was why it was easier for them to set

(01:51:35):
up traps and to send rabbit holes for other investigators
to go on through. So the most important thing is
that law enforcement as well as readers. Law enforcement access
this book because there is credible, actual physical evidence that
can be moved on that can help bring closure or

(01:51:57):
at least answer questions to numerable cases. We're talking anywhere
between ninety three to one hundred and twenty different cases
cases nationwide going back to nineteen as far as nineteen
forty five that could not be listed on the back
end of this book. So I urge anybody who has
unsolved cases that involve females, children, strangulation, ligatures, and staging

(01:52:23):
of bodies, with staging of elements in the crime scene,
without actual robbery. These are the kind of cases you
need to be looking for, and you need to be
looking in this book and you can look and you
can follow. We've got cases, so many cases from California,
which is where they were predominantly based out of that

(01:52:44):
show so many correlations to who these people were and
why we believe these are the killers, so that those
cases can finally be solved, like Patricia Can and several others.
A lot of the Sonoma stalking stranglings, some of the
Green River Mile just there's just a pleathora of cases
that are in here that have some sort of information

(01:53:05):
that may just help another investigation investigator close the case
or bring it closer closer to closure for them. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:53:13):
I bet our friend out there who did the documentary
series Program to Kill as a ten of cover up,
I bet he'll run rite out and buy this book tonight,
and don't forget I'm in the book. They mentioned me.
I think it's page fifty four, right. Oh, by the book, you're.

Speaker 3 (01:53:25):
Further down in fifty four. I think you're in one.

Speaker 4 (01:53:27):
To fifty one, fifty four, you're.

Speaker 3 (01:53:29):
In there, but you are definitely in.

Speaker 2 (01:53:30):
There, and just w audience knows this total. I had
no idea, right, I got that, did you so book
you on the show? I had no idea that No,
which was.

Speaker 3 (01:53:40):
Really funny because I was sitting there, I go, I
wonder if he knows he's in here, and then I thought, gosh,
maybe I'd better give him that disclaimer because your podcast
was exceptionally instructional because some of the information that you know,
I retrieved from there was very helpful in supplying me
their figerlings of information and evidence that we can then

(01:54:00):
apply to other cases.

Speaker 2 (01:54:02):
Yeah, Cisco was a great guy. Yeah, he had all
this stuff on the tip of his tongue. Man, I
wish I had him on another time, I.

Speaker 3 (01:54:07):
Know, and I dearly wish I could. And if you
ever want to arrange, you know, the session with CYNTHONYA McKinny,
I'll be morning happy to hop on board with that
one too.

Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
Okay, listen, thank you so much. T. A.

Speaker 3 (01:54:17):
Powell.

Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
Lords of the Harvest, a true crime investigative memoir.

Speaker 4 (01:54:21):
Thank you so much, so you, sir, I appreciate the time.

Speaker 3 (01:54:25):
Good.

Speaker 2 (01:54:26):
Okay, Well there you have it. Like I said, I
had no idea she mentioned me in the book and
the great Show of the Opera report. I totally contacted
this woman just on a lark. I had no idea.
I think you shure one hundred of the book was
about and I had something to do with the Atlanta chocolates.

(01:54:50):
Let's see coming up tonight because I'm taping this in
the afternoon, I'm gonna be interviewing. Oh, this is gonna
be a good show. Coming up is the guy, uh
Maurice Simonette, who is the guy who stands behind Trump
and the Trump rallies holding up the sign that says

(01:55:11):
Blacks for Trump. I haven't we fell through a couple
of times, but I have an interview with him coming up,
and it turns out just by the most again, the
most bizarre coincidence. I was interviewing this gentleman about the

(01:55:31):
what do you call it, the Africa Bombarda situation, and
he was telling me about this guy Khalil Amani, who
was one of the first guys to expose the whole
Africa Bombarda situation. And it turns out to Camille Khalil
Amani was an undercover FBI agent who exposed the Yahweh

(01:55:52):
Ben Yahweh cult that this gentleman, Maurice Simonette Blacks for
Trump was involved in. And Marie someone that was actually
charged with murder, I believe, for trying to cut a
guy's head off, okay, with a doll machete. This guy's
standing right behind the President of the United States.

Speaker 3 (01:56:09):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:56:10):
So we got this guy coming on and we'll be
talking internet now. End of the year. A happy New year,
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Speaker 3 (01:58:39):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:58:39):
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