December 14, 2023 • 71 mins
The team shares their thought about the eregious police misconduct case in Alabama where officer Dana Elmore tased a handcuffed man who was not resisting, as well as other discrimination issues going on in Alabama and more.
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This is the FCB Podcast Network breakthis when they trunk job foot change.
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This is darth Yjoga King Penmorrow alongsideRobin O'Malley and Dante Bright. Don't
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how are you tired? I'm tired? Are we all tired today? Because
Dante's talking about that before the beforethe show started, I'm tired too,
don Yez, I'm tired. It'sbeen a long week for real. So
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you had a long week too,Oh my gosh, and it's not even
over. My week doesn't end untilMonday. Are the kids on break yet?
When are they going to break?Uh? They actually do not go
on break yet. My son actuallyneeds to check because he's in homeschool.
But Nana her school, my babyher school is like literally two one or
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I think it's a couple of daysbefore Christmas. Like they did the same
thing with Thanksgiving. It's weird becausewhen we were in school, like he
was out for like a week before, right, like, not like no
two days. Yeah, Like it'sliterally the friday before that week. So
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it's really so you still got somemore time, some extra time. Man
has to have to take a babygirl to school. Yeah, and let
me tell you that's been really Ohand you know what, guys, so
I have been having to wake upeven extra early because my baby she is
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in choir and early to her choirpractice on certain days. And she just
had her first show yesterday and theyannounced they do not have choir practice again
until January, like towards the endof January. I was like, yes,
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thank yeah, So all right,uh D say, how you doing,
sir? I'm all right, man, It's it's like I said,
it's been a long week. Wetalked about this before, but it seemed
like at the year winds down,you know, you kind of have to
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work harder to stay focused, whichis even more draining. I think sometimes
you know, because you've got amillion things going on outside of you know
what you got going on because it'sit's holiday season. You getting gifts,
you got family coming to town,a bunch of moving parts, and you
still got normal responsibility. So Ithink you gotta you know, you got
to prioritize, and it's just it'sjust it's just be hectic. Man.
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I see the older I get Isee why people be like the holidays.
You know it's good, but theyneed to speed pass. I get that
more as I get older. Imean, I'm kind of jolly. I
don't know, like this year,I'm a little jolly. I think I
told you all that last time.Mm hmm. We know why shut no,
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it's Dante no, because I thinkit's more so because I'm more on
my feet and a little more studythis year. So oh really, you're
your more on your feet, alittle more study, darthy old, I'm
out to pop up at you saidyou said it to me. I didn't.
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This is a family, this one. I mean you said it.
I'm just saying that I'm sick ofyou. I am sick of you,
stick of you. So we goright all yeah, but you know what
I am I do need to tellyou guys something I have to tell everybody.
Everybody has to know what. Mybaby is turning ten years old next
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week. Yes, she is turningten. So we're about to turn up.
You know what we're gonna do.We're gonna go ice skating. I
was just about to ask you becauseshe shouldn't be listening to the show,
so you can tell us what shewhat? Did you plan it or do
it for her birthday? So y'allgoing ice skating? Yeah, you know
what I mean, y'all can cometo you, y'all can come ice skating.
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Well, y'all gonna be y'all goingdowntown. Well, let's not.
We don't want to know. We'llprobably be out here in Parma, Phil
because we're not gonna We're not gonnasay where y'all gonna be. But but
okay, we'll talk about that offair. Yeah, it'll be out by
me, like you're gonna get offthere in ice skate. No, No,
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I'm recording. I'm gonna. Imean, I ain't fall. What
did you say that I said?I just like being invited places. Man,
I don't really be going nowhere.I tell you invite me. But
you know I probably ain't gonna come. If you tell me you're gonna come
and you won't come, no,I tell no. I'm not saying.
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I didn't say I was gonna come. I said please invite me, but
you know that I'm not going to. So you wanted those huh yeah included,
but I'm probably not going over.Listen, y'all can pop up.
You know what I'm saying a littlefun laugh at everybody falling. I'm recording
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them. Well, you better notfall I shouldn't. I don't think I
will. I went ice skating before, so I mean, if you have
ever roller skated, if you've evergone like rollerblading, I think you should
be pretty okay with ice skating.So, first of all, I have
never roller bladed. I've roller skate. Like black people don't really roller blade,
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we roller skate. I mean,I have went rollerskating before. I'm
not really I wasn't really good atit, and I'm one of those people
like things have to be the wayI think they are supposed to be.
It's just weird to have shoes onthat move that freaks me out. Your
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feet do feel weird afterwards too.Yeah, have you ever been roller skating.
Yeah, I've been roller blading.Man, I've roller bladd and roller
skated. How were you? Oh, I'm okay, I got you know,
I got Courdinatum coordinated right so thatyou know it's fine. But and
I got decent ballots. But I'venever I've never been on the ice skates
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before. I probably never get onthat. No, you got to come
through. You got him, Youdefinitely got to. I was a dude
when we were when we were teenagers, I was the dude that would go
to the to the roller arena justto talk to girls. Yeah, that's
that's pretty much the whole point.Like I'm not getting on. I was
always the one on the dance floor. Oh really. Oh yeah, I
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mean I would skate occasionally, butyou know there's always them cool the cool
kids on the skate floor doing allthe tricks and stuff. I would just
be the normal one going round andround in circles. You know. I
was never that good, Like,I was never that good and I and
I don't like public embarrassment, soI don't want to bust my ass in
front of everybody. But see that'swhy you got to laugh at yourself,
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because then they can't laugh at you. Ain't so funny? You gotta laugh,
sup. I'm learned that well beforebefore we transition into into our topic
because it's a serious topic. ButI'm enjoying this, this conversation. You
have to tell us now how youlearn that? How do what? How
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did you learn that you have tolaugh at yourself? Like? What did
you do? Oh? I mean, first and foremost, I am accident
prone, like it's in my DNA. So I mean I tend to hurt
myself, walk into poles and bustmy butt like that's really me? Oh
you like that? I don't know. I am super clumsy. Oh,
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yes, super clumsy. So asyou know, I can't be letting people
laugh at me. You ain't aboutto laugh at me alone, So I'm
gonna have to laugh first, youknow, Like you said, you don't
like public embarrassment like that, SoI just learned, like you know,
I'm start laughing at me because it'sfunny. What's the most embarrassing call you've
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had? All Ooh? I don'tknow, but I can tell you something
that actually just happened to me recently. So I was at work and a
customer at my job was literally rightthere, and I'm just talking, you
know, and I've been tired,you know, from working so much.
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And we got it like there's apole, like right directly in the middle
of the floor, and there's cartsand stuff kind of in the way,
and I was walking, went payingattention and walked straight into that pole.
She started laughing, and I probablyturned as red as an apple. Like,
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but I start laughing because you ain'tabout to laugh at me alone.
But I know it got caught oncamera. I'm on camera, oh as
Cara having a full Loony Tunes moment. Hey, no doubt, hein no
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doubt. All right, So whatwe gonna do. We're gonna do it
this way because we just had suchan enjoyable conversation. I don't want to.
I hate, Like if y'all everwatched the watch the local news,
and it'd be like murder, murder, murder, murder puppies, you know
what I'm saying. I hate.So what I'm gonna do. We're gonna
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take a break. We're gonna goto break, and then we'll talk about
the topic that we're opening the showwith when we come back. Let's just
do a clean break, go tocommercial and then we'll we'll pick it back
up when we come back. Sostay tuned. You're listening to the Outlos.
These days, it seems like everybody'stalking, but no one is actually
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real conversations. We got the Heat. Yeah, this is the Outlaws
Radio show. Welcome back. You'relistening to the Outlaws. So I want
to get into this story. Thestory was infuriating and when more details came
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out, it was even more infuriating. So in Alabama, there is a
police officer name is Dana Elmore.She from the reports, saw a guy
at the side of the world allegedlychanging his girlfriend's tire and they asked the
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officer asked him what was he doing? She said, he said, change
him this tire, and she asksfor the ID. He said, why
do I have to show you myID? Well, I was changing tire
whatever whatever, And from my understanding, she actually stunned used the stun gun
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on him then and then handcuffs him, puts him over the car. She
asks does he have any weapons?He tells her he has a gun.
She takes the gun out, bendshim over the car and stuns him again
and curses at him, tell himshut his b word ass up and all
of this. And then it getseven worse because he was arrested and indicted
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on trumped up charges, like cleartrumped up charges. So let's go to
Alabama al dot com and I'll updateit from there. A fella me thin
to gnaw trafficking charge against an Alabamaman who was hit with a stun gun
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while he was handcuffed and face downon the hood of an officer's police car
has been dismissed. Michael Washington,twenty four, still faces three additional charges
that stem from his encounter with reformedpolice officer Dana Elmore on Saturday, but
he is out on bond. Heis in good spirits, but it's tough,
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Washington's attorney, Leeward Maxwell juniorson aodot com Wednesday. He's going through
PTSD. The ordeal began when Washingtonwas changing a flat tire on a Pickens
County roadway not far from his untouse. Maxwell said Washington and other were going
back and forth to the house toget equipment needed to change the tire when
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Elmore stopped to question Johnson. Maxwellsaid the officer asked him what was going
on and asked him for identification.Washington told the officer he was not doing
anything wrong, knew his rights,and didn't have to provide the information if
he wasn't detained. Washington pulled outhis room to start recording, and Elmore
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used a stun gun on Washington,which caused him to drop to the ground.
He was then handcuffed. What happenednext was caught on the now viral
video recorded by one of Washington's familymembers. The video begins with Elmore,
identified through charging documents against Washington,ordering Washington quote stand up after he was
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handcuffed in the roadway in Pickens County. She then tells him to lay down
on the front of the vehicle,which he does face down. The officer
then holds a stun gun to Washington'sback while she still while he goes through
his pockets. She tells him tostay he's still, at which point he
says, I ain't doing s word, bro, I got a gun right
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there. Elmore laughs as she retrievesthe gun and says, oh yeah.
She then deploys the stun gun directlyinto Washington's back, telling him to shut
the f up as he screams.Washington then begins to cry, repeatedly saying,
oh my god. The officer says, do you want it again as
Washington continues to cry, and I'mgonna say, this is exactly how she
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said it s cut your bitch assup. The officer says that's where the
video ended. Reform Police Chief RichardBlack and Mayor Melody Davis sent out a
statement Monday acknowledging that they are awareof the video of Washington's arrest. Elmore
remains on leave with pay. Thedepartment is in the process of turning over
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all materials related to this arrest tothe Alabama State Bureau of Investigation and has
requested a thorough investigation into the circumstancessurrounding the arrest. The statement says Aushington
was initially charged with trafficking fentanyl,obstructing government operations, resisting arrests, and
first degree possession of marijuana. Twentyfourth Judicial Circuit District Attorney Andy Hamlin filed
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a motion to dismiss the fentanyl traffickingcharge, which was granted by District Judge
Lance Bailey. According to the Hamlin'smotion, field testing on the substance indicated
positive for fentanyl, but additional testingfailed to confirm the substance as fentyl.
I'm going to get back to thatin a second. Washington was released from
the Pickens County jail on Tuesday.He posted this on his girlfriend's Facebook page.
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Thanks for the love and support forreal, It's really appreciated. I'm
just happy to be free. Maxwellsaid he plans to follow a twenty million
dollar lawsuit on behalf of Washington.These occurrences executive excessive force happened every day,
Maxwell said, Fortunately this one wascaught on film. We will not
stop working until we clear Micah's nameand hold all responsible parties accountable. In
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addition to abusive force, we haveevidence that false criminal charges were created against
Micah Now let's go back to fentanol. On the video, they say that,
well, she searched and followed asubstance and tested it positive for fentanyl.
That never happened, according to hislawyer, and according to the video
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that we've seen, that never happened. She literally allegedly made that charge up.
So what that leads me to believe. And there was there's another viral
video of a commentator saying the samething. She was going to plan it
on it. Reportedly, she didnot realize she was being recorded when she
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was doing all of the things thatshe was doing. She would have gotten
away with it without that. Now, mind you, when the original charges
came down, he was given afive hundred thousand dollars bond from the court.
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When those charges started dropping, thatbond went from five hundred thousand dollars
to five thousand dollars. That's whyhe's out right now. This is one
of and it's unfortunate because I've saidthis before on the show, So incidents
are getting worse. This is oneof the most egregious incidents of police brutality
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that I have ever seen. Youhave so many things going on on,
once stopping and asking for his idwhen she didn't have any probable calls to
do so, arresting him for noreason, paising him for no reason,
paising him again for no reason,and then charging him with false charges.
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You know what. Another charge wasthat they charged him possession of a weapon
as a felon. Guess what,He's not a felon. She made it
up. She made it up.Now imagine if the person allegedly was his
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brother, If his brother didn't recordthat, this man would have lost his
life, would have went to jailfor twenty years or more for some trumped
up charges that were completely false.Dana Elmore needs to be fired and Dana
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Elmore needs to go to jail.Dantell your thoughts, we'll talk. We're
gonna talk more about what's going onin the state of Alabama generally in a
minute. But Dantell your thoughts.Yeah, man, I echo a lot
of what you said. This isa this is an egregious case. And
again, the thing that really reallybothers me is this young man was doing
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the right thing right. So whenwhen George Floyd gets murdered or when somebody
else gets murdered, the response is, well, you just need to comply,
and then when you see this,it's like, well, this young
man was polite, he knew hisrights, he wasn't doing anything wrong,
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wasn't drunk, wasn't high, wasn'twasn't in the wrong at all. She
literally had no reason to stop none. She could have said, oh,
instead of having compassion, like oh, you have a flat tire, Well,
let me try to make sure thatyou know you're safe right there on
the side of freeway. Let metry to make sure that you're like safe.
Let's let's try and deter traffic,right, let's make sure no cars
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come no her for let me seesome idd then I mean it. She
would get everything wrong and then compoundedShe did everything wrong within the interaction and
then compounded it by trying to makesure this young man got locked up.
It's absurd and quite honestly, again, it's infuriating, man that here we
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are yet again with another situation likethis, and people will try to throw
water on it by making it seemlike, oh, well, it doesn't
happen all the time. No,it doesn't get caught on video all the
time, because we wouldn't know anythingabout this if it wasn't on video,
and this officer, from everything Iread, didn't know she was being recorded.
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So here we are again, likeshe thought she was gonna do this
and get away with it. Whichthen, if somebody can be so flagrant
when it comes to abuse of power, it leads me to believe that they
have never that they have done thisbefore. You are not so comfortable with
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just assaulting somebody and violating someone's rightsand abusing your authority for the first time.
This could not you are not.She did this as if it was
second nature for her. Right.She was very smug. She was laughing,
almost laughing and smiling through the process. So it's not you don't talk
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to people like that for the firsttime. Right, You are not this
comfortable breaking the law, and that'swhat she did. She's a lawbreaker.
As a police officer, she's alawbreaker. You are not this comfortable doing
that and abusing your authority for thefirst time. So her entire record needs
to be examined because as who hasshe railroaded before in the past that wasn't
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caught on video, And that's thepoint that really needs to be made.
When you see police brutality on camera, you need to really think and understand
if you can do this on cameraor or if you did this without realizing
you've been recorded, while you you'veprobably done this before and you sleep well
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at us. We need to examineyour whole entire arrest record to see who
else have you railroaded, who elsehas a story to tell and at least
hearing, because this is flagrant,I mean the most one of the most
disrespectful cases I've ever seen. Ithink, at minimum from a policy perspective,
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because you know, I'm always thinkingabout policy from a policy perspective,
at the bare minimum, and thisis the bare minimum. At the bare
minimum, none of these police departmentsshould have officers on the street without body
cams, at the bear minimum,because if that, if his brother did
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not record that, we would neverknow. Correct. So at the very
least, at the very least,there should be a national body cam law
making every single police department in thiscountry making it a requirement for their officers
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to have body cams. At abare minimum, robbing your thoughts. So,
first I want to start off withwhy is it every time a situation
like this happens, these officers arelet on leave paid leave first? And
for that is my first question becausehow is this officer allowed to leave on
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pay when she just committed crime?Like technically, yeah, I mean it's
it's I mean, let's be honest. It's been a question, oh for
sure. But you know where I'mgoing with that. She did, you
know? Yeah, But it's crazyto me because this man, all he
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was trying to do was change histire, like he going back and forth
for the tools. He's trying togo back and forth of all he trying
to do is change his tire.What did he do so wrong? And
then for her to talk to himlike he ain't noth in but some dirt
up underneath her shoe, talking aboutshut the f up, holding the stun
gun to his back while he's gothis face planted into the car. This
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man is not in the fear forhis own life like all because he's changing
his tire. When you could havejust been like, oh okay, like
Dante saying, like, you know'toffer assistance. Okay, let me stay,
let me turn my lights on sopeople could see you. You know
what I mean? It could besomething as simple as that. Yeah,
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like you ain't even got to speakto him. Oh okay, let me
just turn my lights on, goahead and change your tire. I mean,
I get, I get she's awoman, So I'm not saying go
change this man's tire. But theleast she could do is that, so,
I mean, and then to turnaround and place all these false charges
on him, that's bizarre, Likethat's insane, Like how do you just
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throw out things and then say thathe you know, he's a criminal already
when he's not clearly. I feellike, just like Dante was saying,
and I was sitting there thinking it'scrazy when he was saying it, I
was thinking it, like, theyreally do need to pull her track record,
like to see what she has inthe past, because I can guarantee
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there's a list of things. It'sprobably a book, depending on upon how
long she's been an officer. Butthat's crazy. How they abuse their power.
That is crazy. Yeah, yeah, no, it was. It
was wild. And I agree withboth of y'all. Every single case that
she has been a part of needsto be examined, every single case.
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And then the question that I haveDante, why was why was the DA
so quick to jump on these chargeswithout any proof whatsoever? You know,
if man like you should be ableto look and see if he's an actual
fellon or not before you charge himas being an ex felon in possession of
a gun. Do we know howlarge is that town or that municipality that
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that's you know, it's a smallit's a small town, a small county.
Rather, I mean, I'm gonnasay something that you know, I'm
sure you guys probably don't feel comfortablesaying, but I'm gonna say it.
How would she treat it if itwas me, someone like that looked like
me, someone like me that waschanging theirs tire? What would she do?
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That's a good question. I thinkI think we know the answer to
that was that was a question,but it was a statement, you know
what I mean? Yeah, that'sright, that's right. So Dante,
to answer your question, the cityis the city of Reform, Alabama.
Uh, it's seventeen hundred people.That's that's the size of the population.
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Now the side of the county isnineteen thousand, So this is this is
a small town Alabama. Yeah,you know, I don't want to be
prejudiced against the small towns and everybut I mean, we you know,
we understand, right, we understandwell, and I've had people tweeting.
I've had people tweeting at me whoknow about that area. I had one
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person say to me that that's Pickensis a sundown county. You drive in
and out of that, boyd youknow what I mean. Now, keep
in mind Michael Washington. They saidhe was twenty four years old. I
ain't ever experienced anything like this,right, He's younger than all of us.
And you know there are and thisis I promise you, this is
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not a knock on the South becauseI know we have listeners in the South,
and my family is from the South. My father was born in Alabama.
You know, yeah, so thisisn't I'm not dogging Alabama. I'm
not dogging the people, the regularpeople, the normal people. I know
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that there's good people in Alabama.But there are some problems in the state
of Alabama. First of all,you have this situation. Now you have
if y'all remember the incident on theboat in Montgomery where now, after that
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happened, we all saw the blackguy, who I believe was the captain.
We all saw him get jumped bythose white dudes and he fought back,
trying to protect himself. But Alabama, last I saw, and I
haven't uh, I haven't checked theupdate recently, but last I saw,
they charged the captain with assault whenhe was clearly attacked and clearly attacked on
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the video. So you had that, you had. There was an incident
that I was just made aware oftoday that in a black area the sewer
system was so backed up with sewagethat the federal government had to intervene on
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civil rights causes. In other words, there is a question as to whether
they allowed that to happen on purpose. Then you have the US Supreme Court
this year ordered Alabama. They saidthat Alabama was in violation of Voting Rights
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Act and they had to create anotherblack district or or district close to it,
as close to being majority black asyou could. They violated a court
order from the United States Supreme Court. They just basically said no, we're
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not going to do it. Theyhad to get sued again, go back
to court again, and they madethem enforce it again. All of these
things, all of these things happenedthis year in twenty twenty three. Here's
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the sewage story. Federal government intervenesin Alabama's sewage crisis on civil rights grounds.
This is May fourth, twenty twentythree. The federal government has found
that Alabama's rampant sewage issues in poorand minority communities in the Black Belt raised
concerns of civil rights violations, andfederal officials are working with state authorities to
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implement a solution to issues that haveplagued the area for decades. And an
investigation begun in twenty twenty one bythe US Justice Department's Civil Rights Office determined
that the Alabama Department of Public Health'senforcement of sanitation laws threatened residents of Louds
County with criminal penalties and even potentialproperty laws for sanitation conditions that they did
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not have the capacity to alleviate.The investigation, conducted by the Civil offices
of the Justice Department and the Departmentof Health and Human Services found that ADPH
engaged in a consistent pattern of anaction and or neglect concerning the health risks
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associated with raw sewage. According tothe Justice Department news release Raw Sewage This
happened in May. This is Thefederal investigations stated that despite adph's awareness of
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the issues and the disproportionate burden andimpact placed on black residents in Lowes County.
It failed to take meaningful actions toremedy these conditions. Without access potential
sewer lines or working septic systems,many residents of the Black Belt have resorted
to straight piping sewage waste directly intothe ground, meaning the waste flows directly
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into some yards, potentially exposing childrento health risks right outside of their homes.
This practice creates unsafe conditions, butmany low income residents cannot afford a
better solution. So clearly there aresignificant issues in Alabama. Here's a perfect
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example. They were enforcing a lawabout raw sewage satitation laws. Read this
sentence again. The Alabama Department ofPublic Health enforcement of sanitation laws threatened residents
of Laws County with criminal penalties andeven potential property laws taking your house for
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sanitation conditions. They did not havethe capacity to alleviate. Why has the
state of Alabama not made sure thatthose people have working plumbing. It's twenty
twenty three. It was neglected,and the Justice Department believes intentional. So
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that is four incidents, four majorincidents, including this new one that we're
talking about now, four major incidentsin the state of Alabama in twenty twenty
three. All four of those incidentshappened this year. Dante, Clearly there's
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some issues in Alabama. No,there really is, or there really are.
I I don't know, man,I don't know. You seeing a
lot of this stuff around the country, and it's like, why why are
we going backwards? Now? Don'tdon't get me wrong, like you like
you know, we talk about thisall the time. There has obviously been
incredible progress made. But when yousee things like this and he you know,
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you hear the Justice departments kind ofsay that this they believe it was
done intentionally, It's like, whatis going on? Man? What this
should not This type of stuff shouldnot be happening, right, the type
of stuff that we saw with withmister Washington and also an Alabama it we
should be so much farther past this, right, especially when you would have
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people tell you right, when youwould post about stuff like this, right,
and you wait into these political waterson Twitter more than I do now,
just because I don't have the stomachor the patience for some of the
responses and some of the people thatyou know you'll talk to, right,
this is something you know, justin the side. I tell Darky this
all the time. He is aman of great patience, and if y'all
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knew him how I know him,y'all would be just as shocked as I
am that he can be so calmwith some of these people on Twitter.
I'm not. I don't have apatience for that. You know, he
could be an educator. I don'thave the patience for that, because some
of these people will literally look youin your face or will tell you with
a straight face, and this isin person and on social media, and
tell you, well, you shouldjust be colorblind. We don't see,
(37:25):
we don't see this stuff. Really, really, you don't you want you
want a color blind society when stufflike this is happening. Really, like
Robin said, what would this policeofficer had but this police officer had to
responded to a white person that sameway? Of course, we don't know,
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but I have my suspicions, right, I'm entitled to make a you
know, I'm entitled to make tomake an assumption here. So you you
want me to have a colorblind socidey? You? You you think that if
people would just comply, nothing wouldhappen. Well, proven wrong? You
think that in twenty twenty three,we pass all this racism stuff right,
(38:07):
well wrong. You're just uncomfortable withthe conversation. You just don't have the
stomach for the conversation. And quitehonestly, you might you might not want
to have a conversation because you mighthave some issues of your own. When
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I see some of the responses tosome of this stuff, I say,
hmm, these these are responses frompeople who who say they love you.
These are responses from people who whoclaim to be allies. Maybe everybody should
(38:52):
look in the mirror that part classwordsmiss about it. All in all,
it's a very uh, disgusting situation. That's really all I can say.
All Right, on the note,stay tuned. We have Tea Time with
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Row coming up next here on theOutlaws. This is the Outlaws Radio Show.
Welcome back you listening to the Outlaws. And now was the time of
the show that we like to calltea Time with Roe. Turn it up,
out the infectation, the latest celebritynews, and gossipation. It's Tea
(39:37):
Time with Row on the Outlaws RadioShow. I got a few little topics
for you. I mean, it'snot a little sizzling hot, but it's
hot enough. I mean, butwe're gonna start off with the hottest cup.
I mean, in my opinion personally, because like first and foremost,
(40:01):
everybody loves Ashanti. I mean Ido anyway, Like how could you not
love her music? Like, andshe a baddie forroh Like so and she
is recently not too long ago,I think that I had said that she
is dating Nelly and so now,huh that's yeah, they got back together.
(40:24):
Yeah, And a lot of peoplewere like, how do you know
that they're together? Do you notsee them posting all over the place stupid
like but no, So Ashanti,she basically put it out there. Ashanti
is pregnant. She is expecting herfirst child with Nelly, And I mean,
(40:45):
I'm actually kind of excited for herbecause truthfully, let's let's be honest.
Throughout the years, Ashanti's music hasbeen fire. Let's start out with
that. But oddly it was firedbecause every time she get her heart broke
that if she just her pen belike going no. And in twenty twenty
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three, she gets to have theblessing of starting her family with the man
who originally she was dating years ago. It did not work out, I'm
not sure of the reasons they wereyoung, So I'm really very much happy
for her with that. Yeah,congratulations, congratulations to a Scianti and Nellie
(41:36):
Dactor. You got anything I addon this. I'm salty. Me and
Ashanti could have had the perfect lovestory. Her birthday is October thirteenth.
My birthday is October thirteenth. Itcould have been an incredible love story.
Nelly already has children, if I'mnot mistaken, I don't have any,
So like we could have started outtogether. We could have built our family
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from scratch. And I'm not hatingon Nelly. I respect it. You
know, he's doing this thing thistime around. You know that's cool.
Congratulations. But you know, ifAshanti would have looked at my DM,
she would have seen that, youknow, there was other options out there.
Wait a minute, Dante a shotin her forty forty forty three.
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Okay, Well she can still getpregnant, so that's all that matter.
We can still She's still she notpast her child bearing age, so we
could still we should have still madeit happen. But she, you know,
didn't look at my DMS for whateverreason. And you know, I
guess she had to settle for whatshe had to settle for. But I'm
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just saying she listened to you know, it was other It was you have
options, honey, you was notyou have other choices. But congratulations,
that's we happy that happened for youknow, moving along, Dante's heartbroken.
(43:08):
So I don't know if anybody knowsthis or not. Like Dante was just
saying how he has a birthday twin, So shout out to my birthday twin
who is no longer here with us. It's been quite a long time.
So Aliyah, Aliyah, she allegedlyhas new music coming, and I don't
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know how I feel about this.Hopefully it's true and not just some random
rumor. If she does, that'sabout to be on replay period. Yeah,
I'm I was a big Aliah fan. I still play Aliah's music.
I would love to hear. Soyou said this was this was stuff.
(43:53):
Obviously, this was stuff that shedid before she passed. So probably like
what because she passed in two thousandand one, so like around that area
something like that. Actually I thinkit was about two thousand exactly, Okay,
a year before Okay, yeah,so because she passed in two thousand
and one, But so this musicshe probably recorded around two thousand. Yeah,
(44:15):
it'll be interested to hear Dante.I know, it's it's it's always
kind of controversial when people release musicfrom artists that have passed away. To
me, you know, as afan of some of these artists, as
long as you know you stay trueto the sound, to their sound,
(44:39):
you know, I don't have aproblem with it. I don't like if
you like, I don't want tohear Marvin Gaye using auto tune, you
know what I mean? Like,I don't want to hear something like that.
If you stay true to the sound, even if it's a new producer
or new production or whatever. Youknow, I'm cool with it. What's
your thoughts. I don't really havean opinion either way. I would just
(45:01):
say, let make sure that thepeople you know, like her family or
whatever, like, make sure thatthey can eat off of that too.
Yeah, if if she you know, I don't she not no kids or
anything, but like, if sheyou know, any surviving relatives, let
let's let's let them eat off ofthat. You know, don't don't sit
(45:24):
up here and release her stuff andnot let any of her loved ones,
people who she would want to geta peace, not have anything right,
don't don't do her state like thatthat that would be my only thing.
But other than that, I mean, you know, go for it.
I don't. You know, itdoesn't bother me either way. Max,
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all right, So this one kindof threw me for a loop. Wasn't
expecting it. I don't think anyof us would have been expecting this.
So a woman recently was arrested forpouring gas a lie trying to burn down
Martin Luther King Junior's birth home inAtlanta, Like says, why why?
(46:15):
Yeah? Yeah, that's insane,Dante. Did you want to say any
other stuff that she's off the air? Well, I just want to make
sure. Do we know where CandaceOwns was at this time? It wasn't.
No, I don't think it wasthere. I don't think it was
(46:36):
there. It wasn't. Has shebeen in communication with Candace? Well,
we don't know that yet. Okay, need to keep an eye on watch
for those conspiracy charges. It soundslike this sounds like something up Candice owners
Alley go ahead, wrong, Ican say that, you know it is,
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Like I said, it's something outof the norm and caught. You
know, everybody off guard because normallythis is not something that is normally done
by a black woman, you know, by trying to set the house on
fire by somebody like Martin Luther KingJunior. Like it's it's kind of it's
caught us all off guard. ButI'm really curious to what her reasoning was,
(47:21):
Like, was she put up toit? Is she just like mentally
ill? Like what is what isthe case? Yeah? Yeah, did
you have anything else? Or isthat it? So? I do have
one work thing. Uh so Ihaven't really been keeping up with it as
(47:43):
much, but I will say thatthere has been a situation going on behind
closed doors. It was actually notsupposed to come out. You know,
somebody released it behind Amon Schumper andTianna Taylor's back, Like we don't know
who. I have not seen anythingabout who, but somebody did release it,
(48:04):
uh their private information as far astheir divorce. So Amon Schumpert allegedly
so he there's a situation that happenedwhere it was miss he was mistreating Tianna
Taylor. But he's basically saying thatTianna Taylor never proved that he made her
(48:27):
feel in danger, despite making theclaim in a recently uh filed divorce papers.
He does want the court to takeaction and to remove Tayana Tianna Taylor's
accusation from the documents. Tianna putssomething called cruel treatment as grounds for the
couple's divorce, which is defined aswillful will film willful, can't get my
(48:49):
words up, infliction of pain bodilyor mental reasonably justifies apprehension of danger to
life, limb, or else.Yeah, it's unfortunate to see. You
know, I like them. Iliked uh Tianna Taylor. You know,
(49:13):
I actually like you know, alot of her music. She makes some
really good songs. And of course, you know, Emon is a legend
here. He was part of thatthat championship team in Cleveland. Uh,
it's unfortunate, man to see.Uh, when divorces get ugly and Robin
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you said, this is something,This is information that wasn't even supposed to
be out right, This is noteven supposed to be out Yeah, somebody
leaked it, man. That that'sthat's so tacky. That's so tacky.
You know, celebrity is it's tough. I'm sure, because you know,
then you got to worry about youknow, just random just being like,
(49:58):
yeah, let me let me getthe you know, the bonus points for
the cool points, you know,for the media or whatever. Let me
just get this out, get thisstory, maybe get a paycheck just for
putting this person's private life out therelike that. I couldn't even imagine.
Yeah, yeah, no, Imean data. I can imagine that either.
Like if if somebody in my circleleaks something that was personal to me,
(50:23):
not only would they not be inmy circle anymore, you better make
sure I don't go kick the act. Yeah. I don't really have too
much to say about this one.I agree with the overall point that,
you know, it would be toughto be a celebrity, you know how
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I am. Though, anytime amember of the twenty sixteen Cavaliers comes up,
I just want to say thank youbecause that was a remarkable run.
So I hope Emon can pull throughthis. I wish where Tiana as well.
(51:04):
She seems like a cool person.I just wish the best for our
guy man, because you know,everybody on the twenty sixteen calves deserves the
best. So you know, justran far. Brother, I'm not sure
the whole thing a guy the guyrespond, you understand, but I don't
(51:25):
think Robert, I don't think you, and I don't know if I watch
basketball faithfully, No, I don'tthink you. Wasn't in the trenches with
the cows in two thousand and two, in two thousand and one before Lebron
got here, okay around still blue. Okay, y'all ain't lived through that,
and y'all didn't take it to heartwhen Lebron lost, when Lebron left
(51:47):
and then came back, like,y'all don't understand so I but because you
know, you remember when it's whenit's when the seats were lou and it
was called the gund Arena and wewere fifteen games a year, and people
was laughing at us, and somepeople thought that we might lose the cast
(52:08):
the way we lost the Brown likelisten, okay, and then that all
around and win a championship like look, you ain't finna hear me say nothing
bad about nobody on that twenty sixteenbut wrong. But if he actually did
do something like us, we don'tknow what he did. I say,
(52:30):
let that stay between them because theywere Tomerica. I'm not involved with their
relationship. I don't know nothing aboutthat, and I just hope that you
know they can pull it through.All he knows is that he helped us
with that exactly. I don't.I tell y'all this all the time.
(52:52):
I love sports. I love certainathletes, and I respect certain athletes to
discipline and what they can mean tomy team or to my city or to
my you know, to my favoriteorganization. I do not. I don't
care at all about a lot ofthese when it comes to their personal lives.
I'm not interacting with them, likewe're not social friends, we don't
(53:15):
hang out like that. I don'tthat none of that. Imon Schumper's divorce
does not impact my life like Idoesn't Bob like. I don't care about
that. I just wish the brotherwell because he helped my team win a
championship. That's it. Listen you, your personal life does not matter to
(53:37):
me as long as as long asyou don't hurt children. I don't care.
I don't care, because that's that'sthat's something we can never come back
from. We're talking about. Butthe potential, like the allegedly of him
hurting a woman they were married,and those are very very tricky, and
(53:58):
so I do not put my Idon't put my mouth on that either way,
as long as you don't hurt children, I'm okay, because I don't
know when it's a domestics Listen,you know, we don't no sort of
domestic violence or no sort of violence. Again, I don't put my mouth
in those situations because I have noidea they were married, we don't.
(54:22):
I don't know what that's about.They're filing for divorce, so they obviously
was getting along at some point andthey don't now, so all a bad
stuff is gonna come. I knownothing about that. Yeah, I told
uh go through. But we wonthe twenty sixteen title. Yeah, I
had said we had a similar topicwhen you weren't here, Donte, And
(54:45):
you know, I told Ramo,I don't like, I'm very cautious about
touching those type of topics and issuesbecause we just we don't know. You
just don't know. And then especiallylike in in divorces, divorces hell,
y'all, like you're like, I'ma need jab people listening. I'm gonna
(55:07):
need job to pay a little moreattention to who you get married to and
make sure it's really worth it ifyou have to get a divorce, because
divorce is hell. I mean thelawyers, like y'all, lawyer's job is
to tear the other one down,you know what I mean. And so
(55:27):
you know, divorces are rarely likeapplicable and pleasant, and like divorces usually
get ugly. They usually get uglyand all sorts of allegations start getting thrown.
And you know, like Dante said, you just you don't know,
You just don't know, but goahead, right, which is like I
(55:50):
don't say you right, I mean, I mean I was gonna say,
you know, I guess that kindof gives me the the thought of I
hope when it's my time that itdoes not come to that point of getting
a divorce. Like, first ofall, we're not getting a divorce.
Just go sleep on the couch.We'll talk to about yeah, because in
(56:15):
this we in this forever. Shesaid, she said, your asking going
nowhere. It's a totally different tohim. If he cheats, if he
cheats, Darby, O, goget the bail money. It might be.
So we don't. We don't know. And that's what I just.
(56:37):
You know, when it comes todomestic stuff, I try to make it
light because those things can be veryyou know what I'm saying, you know,
I don't know, but Dante,if he cheat, if he cheats
and then the woman turns around anddoes the same thing, I can guarantee
you his heart gonna come out,his whole chest, throw a whole temperature
(57:00):
because maybe don't maybe or maybe youdon't. Women, every man carey.
Men cannot handle the same bs thatwomen be going through. All right,
that's not the topic. That's notthe topic. We're not about to go
because here's she going robbing, aboutto get on her soapbox. All right,
(57:23):
it's time. It's time to goto break. Stay tuned. We
have hot text coming up next hereon The Outlaws. Welcome back, Welcome
(57:46):
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it Dante's Hot Takes, telling thetruth whether you like it or not.
(58:13):
It's Dante's hot takes on the YoungLawns radio show. All right, So
I set the time aside on Wednesdayto finally watch a GOP debate, and
(58:34):
I was just so disappointed that thisis how far the GOP has fallen.
Now I understand that that the frontrunner was not on the stage, right,
Donald Trump was not there, butfrom the four and I'm putting this
in air quotes contenders, I havenever watched the bait and come away so
(59:02):
unimpressed and again so disappointing by theby the candidates on the stage ever in
my life. And so if youknow me, you understand, yes I
do care about politics, but ifyou're not good at that, the least
you could do is entertain me.Right, That's where I started initially with
(59:24):
Trump, where I was like oofin twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, it
was like ooh, not really abig fan, don't you know. I
can't really get with this. Butthe guy's in and he entertains me.
I don't mind. I didn't mindwatching him punch figuratively of course, punch
down on like Marco Rubio and TedCruz and Jeb Bush. That at least
(59:47):
entertained me, right, and thenit became like, oh wow, he
can actually win this thing. Butthat's you know, so at least if
you are not good politically, beentertaining. If I you know, it's
on TV, it's a TV show, at least give me something. I
got absolutely nothing. I had ChrisChristie, who tries to distance himself so
(01:00:13):
much from Trump. It's almost deplorablein my opinion, simply because you know,
I'm old enough and I have thememory of somebody who's, you know,
not a toddler. So I rememberwhen Chris Christy was essentially a Donald
Trump boot liquor and was on everysingle cable news show talking about how wonderful
Trump is. And now he can'tstand the guy, So you instantly have
(01:00:38):
no credibility with me. I watchedVivek essentially do a Trump impersonation all the
way down to his hand movements,you know the thing that really you know,
I'm a Second Amendment guy, rightI talk about this all the time.
I'm a gun owner. I'm anavid shooter, right this. I
(01:01:00):
I have firearms. I always believeI am considered radical when I believe that
we shouldn't have any any laws foryou know, regarding guns. I watched
Vivek say that the best way todeter China from invading Taiwan is to make
(01:01:20):
Taiwan have a Second Amendment and armevery civilian. In what universe do you
get off telling another country, hey, you need to pass a law that
makes you look more like America,and everybody in your bro they that's not
how they operate. And I understandAmerican exceptionalism, but that's not how this
(01:01:44):
works. I you know, we'vetalked about Ron De Santis at nauseum on
this podcast, and I you knowagain, he is, in my opinion,
the most boring of the candidates.He looks so incomp comfortable up there.
There's just something about his whole demeanorthat I just ever since the stuff
(01:02:07):
with him has continuously come out,and as Darviyo put it on the show
last week, how he seems togo out of his way to be disrespectful
towards black people. It's just somethingabout him that sort of makes my skin
crawl. And then you have NickiHaley, who everyone wanted to attack yesterday
and or on Wednesday, and thething that really just got me was like,
(01:02:29):
Wow, they're really coming at NickiHaley. Nicki Haley a complete non
threat. That's where your party is, that the front runner can't be on
stage because he's an illegal bride,he's in a legal battle trying to keep
himself out of prison. And thenthe four next candidate, or that your
(01:02:50):
three next contenders are attacking Nicky Haleybecause maybe she's the next front runner.
I don't know, man. Iwas just it again, so unimpressed and
also disappointed. And maybe I shouldhave been disappointed with myself because I've talked
(01:03:10):
about this for over a year nowthat Republicans should have pivoted away from Trump,
because when you saw that he wasthe Republican candidate that lost you the
Senate in Georgia, maybe it's timeto pivot from him. Maybe it doesn't
work anymore. Maybe I should bedisappointed with myself for still finding the time
(01:03:36):
to watch that, knowing that theyhaven't developed any other candidates, and that
I knew it going in, butI still decided, no, I'm gonna
watch. I'm gonna give it ashot. And I came away distraught because
that's on fund side and Joe Bidenis on the other side. So I
(01:04:03):
would say, first of all,I think Trump. I think the reason
I don't even think I had muchto do with his legal cases, that
he's not at the debates. He'snot at the debates because he didn't want
to be on stage with the pips, like it was, that's the JV,
that's the JV squad. And hewas like, I'm up forty in
(01:04:28):
the polls, right, He's like, what incentive do I have to come
down here and you know, participating. Let's see who the tallest midget is
debate, you know what I mean? Like that is who I heard is
like five to five and a half. I heard he wear heels too,
but I digressed from topway boots,so he could be five nine. I
(01:04:50):
digressed. I digress. I mean, I would argue in the polls,
the poll suggests this too, thatwith the exception of maybe Nicky Haley,
who doesn't have a chance to bethe Republican nominee, none of the other
candidates performed better against Biden than Trumpdoes. So with that, yeah,
(01:05:13):
those come on, come on.Can you imagine if a VEC on a
national stage with with Joe Biden,Now he may win the debates because you
know, Biden's not lucy, butthat wouldn't be that would not be a
competitive race in a general Come on, no, And and by Biden would
be DeSantis as well, and thisis Roger cam Yeah, and I'm not
(01:05:41):
even gonna go there, but soyou know, none of those like the
problem that Nicki Haley has is thatshe would be a good general election candidate,
but she's a terrible primary candidate.And if you're a bad primary candidate,
you can't get to the general election, right, So that's the issue.
That's the issue that she has.DeSantis is just a bad candidate,
(01:06:05):
period. And you know the interestingthing about DeSantis is, and I say
this all the time, and peopledon't understand what I'm saying. Now,
I know that there's a lot there'sthere's a percentage of people who like Trump's
demeanor and attitude and the way hetalks, but that's not the majority of
(01:06:27):
people. Even the majority of peoplewho voted for him. The majority of
people who voted for him voted forhim in spite of his of his attitude.
They voted for him because they likehis policies, right, And what
a lot of these frauds try todo is they adopt Trump's attitude without adopting
(01:06:47):
his policies. So they and thenyou wonder why it doesn't work. It
doesn't work because you adopted the onething that people don't like about him,
and you did adopt the thing thatpeople do like about him. Right,
and then on top of this,on top of that, I used to
call Trump during the primary in twentyfifteen, twenty sixteen, I used to
(01:07:10):
call him Trump the insult comic dog, right, like he's nobody is better
at that than him. You alllook at pales in comparison. You can't
out Trump Trump. You know whatI'm saying. I watched his interview.
He did an interview with Sean Hannitythis week, and he said something I
(01:07:31):
don't even remember what it was,but it was some insult that literally almost
made me like spit, take laugh, you know what I'm saying. Like,
he's just He's an actual entertainer.He can you know what I mean.
He was on television for years andso when you have when you have
the pips out there trying to dowhat he does, it just it.
(01:07:57):
You know, you ever go tothe store and you see like frosted flakes,
and then right below it. Yousee frosty flakes, where got like
the faith, Ain't it ain't atiger's like a kangaroo or something. You
know, they're they're the great valueTrump. You know what I'm saying.
(01:08:20):
They're off bread like. It doesn'twork, y'all, Cake, You're not
adopting his policies, which is thething that people actually like. And you
can't adopt his personality because you're notas good at it as him. It
just makes you look like a jackass. And that's what you see it.
(01:08:40):
And finally to your point about ChrisChristie, Chris Christie drives me nuts because
again, like you said, heinsults everybody's intelligence. First of all,
he was as far as politics goes, he was Trump before Trump was Trump.
He's always been an ass. Hewas an ass when he was the
governor in New Jersey. He hadhis moment. I think you're seeing to
(01:09:05):
guy who knew he could have beenpresident. His moment was in twenty twelve
and he chose not to run.When Mitt Romney was running and none at
the base of the Republican Party wantedhim, right, Mitt Romney became the
nominee because he was the last oneleft. People were calling for Chris Christy
(01:09:29):
to get in that race. ChrisChristy missed his moment, he missed his
opportunity, and then, like yousaid, he kissed Donald Trump's ass when
it was convenient for him, andthen when he didn't get what he wanted
from Trump, he turns one andnow he's running pretending to be the savior
(01:09:50):
of the Republican Party from the meand old Donald Trump. When just three
years ago you were on your handsand or four years ago you were on
your hands and knees kissed his wholeass. It's like, come on,
man, like this is this isa joke. It's a joke, and
you're seeing a bitter, broken manwho knew he had a moment and missed
(01:10:13):
his moment. And now Chris Christywill never be president. He will never
be president. To be honest withyou, I don't think. I'm not
so sure any of them that wereon that stage, any of the pips,
will be president anytime soon. Allright, last thoughts and let him
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how are you tired? I'm tired? Are we all tired today? Because
Dante's talking about that before the beforethe show started, I'm tired too,
don Yez, I'm tired. It'sbeen a long week for real. So
(01:07):
you had a long week too,Oh my gosh, and it's not even
over. My week doesn't end untilMonday. Are the kids on break yet?
When are they going to break?Uh? They actually do not go
on break yet. My son actuallyneeds to check because he's in homeschool.
But Nana her school, my babyher school is like literally two one or
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I think it's a couple of daysbefore Christmas. Like they did the same
thing with Thanksgiving. It's weird becausewhen we were in school, like he
was out for like a week before, right, like, not like no
two days. Yeah, Like it'sliterally the friday before that week. So
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it's really so you still got somemore time, some extra time. Man
has to have to take a babygirl to school. Yeah, and let
me tell you that's been really Ohand you know what, guys, so
I have been having to wake upeven extra early because my baby she is
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in choir and early to her choirpractice on certain days. And she just
had her first show yesterday and theyannounced they do not have choir practice again
until January, like towards the endof January. I was like, yes,
(02:43):
thank yeah, So all right,uh D say, how you doing,
sir? I'm all right, man, It's it's like I said,
it's been a long week. Wetalked about this before, but it seemed
like at the year winds down,you know, you kind of have to
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work harder to stay focused, whichis even more draining. I think sometimes
you know, because you've got amillion things going on outside of you know
what you got going on because it'sit's holiday season. You getting gifts,
you got family coming to town,a bunch of moving parts, and you
still got normal responsibility. So Ithink you gotta you know, you got
to prioritize, and it's just it'sjust it's just be hectic. Man.
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I see the older I get Isee why people be like the holidays.
You know it's good, but theyneed to speed pass. I get that
more as I get older. Imean, I'm kind of jolly. I
don't know, like this year,I'm a little jolly. I think I
told you all that last time.Mm hmm. We know why shut no,
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it's Dante no, because I thinkit's more so because I'm more on
my feet and a little more studythis year. So oh really, you're
your more on your feet, alittle more study, darthy old, I'm
out to pop up at you saidyou said it to me. I didn't.
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This is a family, this one. I mean you said it.
I'm just saying that I'm sick ofyou. I am sick of you,
stick of you. So we goright all yeah, but you know what
I am I do need to tellyou guys something I have to tell everybody.
Everybody has to know what. Mybaby is turning ten years old next
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week. Yes, she is turningten. So we're about to turn up.
You know what we're gonna do.We're gonna go ice skating. I
was just about to ask you becauseshe shouldn't be listening to the show,
so you can tell us what shewhat? Did you plan it or do
it for her birthday? So y'allgoing ice skating? Yeah, you know
what I mean, y'all can cometo you, y'all can come ice skating.
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Well, y'all gonna be y'all goingdowntown. Well, let's not.
We don't want to know. We'llprobably be out here in Parma, Phil
because we're not gonna We're not gonnasay where y'all gonna be. But but
okay, we'll talk about that offair. Yeah, it'll be out by
me, like you're gonna get offthere in ice skate. No, No,
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I'm recording. I'm gonna. Imean, I ain't fall. What
did you say that I said?I just like being invited places. Man,
I don't really be going nowhere.I tell you invite me. But
you know I probably ain't gonna come. If you tell me you're gonna come
and you won't come, no,I tell no. I'm not saying.
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I didn't say I was gonna come. I said please invite me, but
you know that I'm not going to. So you wanted those huh yeah included,
but I'm probably not going over.Listen, y'all can pop up.
You know what I'm saying a littlefun laugh at everybody falling. I'm recording
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them. Well, you better notfall I shouldn't. I don't think I
will. I went ice skating before, so I mean, if you have
ever roller skated, if you've evergone like rollerblading, I think you should
be pretty okay with ice skating.So, first of all, I have
never roller bladed. I've roller skate. Like black people don't really roller blade,
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we roller skate. I mean,I have went rollerskating before. I'm
not really I wasn't really good atit, and I'm one of those people
like things have to be the wayI think they are supposed to be.
It's just weird to have shoes onthat move that freaks me out. Your
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feet do feel weird afterwards too.Yeah, have you ever been roller skating.
Yeah, I've been roller blading.Man, I've roller bladd and roller
skated. How were you? Oh, I'm okay, I got you know,
I got Courdinatum coordinated right so thatyou know it's fine. But and
I got decent ballots. But I'venever I've never been on the ice skates
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before. I probably never get onthat. No, you got to come
through. You got him, Youdefinitely got to. I was a dude
when we were when we were teenagers, I was the dude that would go
to the to the roller arena justto talk to girls. Yeah, that's
that's pretty much the whole point.Like I'm not getting on. I was
always the one on the dance floor. Oh really. Oh yeah, I
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mean I would skate occasionally, butyou know there's always them cool the cool
kids on the skate floor doing allthe tricks and stuff. I would just
be the normal one going round andround in circles. You know. I
was never that good, Like,I was never that good and I and
I don't like public embarrassment, soI don't want to bust my ass in
front of everybody. But see that'swhy you got to laugh at yourself,
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because then they can't laugh at you. Ain't so funny? You gotta laugh,
sup. I'm learned that well beforebefore we transition into into our topic
because it's a serious topic. ButI'm enjoying this, this conversation. You
have to tell us now how youlearn that? How do what? How
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did you learn that you have tolaugh at yourself? Like? What did
you do? Oh? I mean, first and foremost, I am accident
prone, like it's in my DNA. So I mean I tend to hurt
myself, walk into poles and bustmy butt like that's really me? Oh
you like that? I don't know. I am super clumsy. Oh,
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yes, super clumsy. So asyou know, I can't be letting people
laugh at me. You ain't aboutto laugh at me alone, So I'm
gonna have to laugh first, youknow, Like you said, you don't
like public embarrassment like that, SoI just learned, like you know,
I'm start laughing at me because it'sfunny. What's the most embarrassing call you've
(09:03):
had? All Ooh? I don'tknow, but I can tell you something
that actually just happened to me recently. So I was at work and a
customer at my job was literally rightthere, and I'm just talking, you
know, and I've been tired,you know, from working so much.
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And we got it like there's apole, like right directly in the middle
of the floor, and there's cartsand stuff kind of in the way,
and I was walking, went payingattention and walked straight into that pole.
She started laughing, and I probablyturned as red as an apple. Like,
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but I start laughing because you ain'tabout to laugh at me alone.
But I know it got caught oncamera. I'm on camera, oh as
Cara having a full Loony Tunes moment. Hey, no doubt, hein no
(10:09):
doubt. All right, So whatwe gonna do. We're gonna do it
this way because we just had suchan enjoyable conversation. I don't want to.
I hate, Like if y'all everwatched the watch the local news,
and it'd be like murder, murder, murder, murder puppies, you know
what I'm saying. I hate.So what I'm gonna do. We're gonna
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take a break. We're gonna goto break, and then we'll talk about
the topic that we're opening the showwith when we come back. Let's just
do a clean break, go tocommercial and then we'll we'll pick it back
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(10:58):
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real conversations. We got the Heat. Yeah, this is the Outlaws
Radio show. Welcome back. You'relistening to the Outlaws. So I want
to get into this story. Thestory was infuriating and when more details came
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out, it was even more infuriating. So in Alabama, there is a
police officer name is Dana Elmore.She from the reports, saw a guy
at the side of the world allegedlychanging his girlfriend's tire and they asked the
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officer asked him what was he doing? She said, he said, change
him this tire, and she asksfor the ID. He said, why
do I have to show you myID? Well, I was changing tire
whatever whatever, And from my understanding, she actually stunned used the stun gun
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on him then and then handcuffs him, puts him over the car. She
asks does he have any weapons?He tells her he has a gun.
She takes the gun out, bendshim over the car and stuns him again
and curses at him, tell himshut his b word ass up and all
of this. And then it getseven worse because he was arrested and indicted
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on trumped up charges, like cleartrumped up charges. So let's go to
Alabama al dot com and I'll updateit from there. A fella me thin
to gnaw trafficking charge against an Alabamaman who was hit with a stun gun
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while he was handcuffed and face downon the hood of an officer's police car
has been dismissed. Michael Washington,twenty four, still faces three additional charges
that stem from his encounter with reformedpolice officer Dana Elmore on Saturday, but
he is out on bond. Heis in good spirits, but it's tough,
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Washington's attorney, Leeward Maxwell juniorson aodot com Wednesday. He's going through
PTSD. The ordeal began when Washingtonwas changing a flat tire on a Pickens
County roadway not far from his untouse. Maxwell said Washington and other were going
back and forth to the house toget equipment needed to change the tire when
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Elmore stopped to question Johnson. Maxwellsaid the officer asked him what was going
on and asked him for identification.Washington told the officer he was not doing
anything wrong, knew his rights,and didn't have to provide the information if
he wasn't detained. Washington pulled outhis room to start recording, and Elmore
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used a stun gun on Washington,which caused him to drop to the ground.
He was then handcuffed. What happenednext was caught on the now viral
video recorded by one of Washington's familymembers. The video begins with Elmore,
identified through charging documents against Washington,ordering Washington quote stand up after he was
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handcuffed in the roadway in Pickens County. She then tells him to lay down
on the front of the vehicle,which he does face down. The officer
then holds a stun gun to Washington'sback while she still while he goes through
his pockets. She tells him tostay he's still, at which point he
says, I ain't doing s word, bro, I got a gun right
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there. Elmore laughs as she retrievesthe gun and says, oh yeah.
She then deploys the stun gun directlyinto Washington's back, telling him to shut
the f up as he screams.Washington then begins to cry, repeatedly saying,
oh my god. The officer says, do you want it again as
Washington continues to cry, and I'mgonna say, this is exactly how she
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said it s cut your bitch assup. The officer says that's where the
video ended. Reform Police Chief RichardBlack and Mayor Melody Davis sent out a
statement Monday acknowledging that they are awareof the video of Washington's arrest. Elmore
remains on leave with pay. Thedepartment is in the process of turning over
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all materials related to this arrest tothe Alabama State Bureau of Investigation and has
requested a thorough investigation into the circumstancessurrounding the arrest. The statement says Aushington
was initially charged with trafficking fentanyl,obstructing government operations, resisting arrests, and
first degree possession of marijuana. Twentyfourth Judicial Circuit District Attorney Andy Hamlin filed
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a motion to dismiss the fentanyl traffickingcharge, which was granted by District Judge
Lance Bailey. According to the Hamlin'smotion, field testing on the substance indicated
positive for fentanyl, but additional testingfailed to confirm the substance as fentyl.
I'm going to get back to thatin a second. Washington was released from
the Pickens County jail on Tuesday.He posted this on his girlfriend's Facebook page.
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Thanks for the love and support forreal, It's really appreciated. I'm
just happy to be free. Maxwellsaid he plans to follow a twenty million
dollar lawsuit on behalf of Washington.These occurrences executive excessive force happened every day,
Maxwell said, Fortunately this one wascaught on film. We will not
stop working until we clear Micah's nameand hold all responsible parties accountable. In
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addition to abusive force, we haveevidence that false criminal charges were created against
Micah Now let's go back to fentanol. On the video, they say that,
well, she searched and followed asubstance and tested it positive for fentanyl.
That never happened, according to hislawyer, and according to the video
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that we've seen, that never happened. She literally allegedly made that charge up.
So what that leads me to believe. And there was there's another viral
video of a commentator saying the samething. She was going to plan it
on it. Reportedly, she didnot realize she was being recorded when she
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was doing all of the things thatshe was doing. She would have gotten
away with it without that. Now, mind you, when the original charges
came down, he was given afive hundred thousand dollars bond from the court.
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When those charges started dropping, thatbond went from five hundred thousand dollars
to five thousand dollars. That's whyhe's out right now. This is one
of and it's unfortunate because I've saidthis before on the show, So incidents
are getting worse. This is oneof the most egregious incidents of police brutality
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that I have ever seen. Youhave so many things going on on,
once stopping and asking for his idwhen she didn't have any probable calls to
do so, arresting him for noreason, paising him for no reason,
paising him again for no reason,and then charging him with false charges.
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You know what. Another charge wasthat they charged him possession of a weapon
as a felon. Guess what,He's not a felon. She made it
up. She made it up.Now imagine if the person allegedly was his
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brother, If his brother didn't recordthat, this man would have lost his
life, would have went to jailfor twenty years or more for some trumped
up charges that were completely false.Dana Elmore needs to be fired and Dana
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Elmore needs to go to jail.Dantell your thoughts, we'll talk. We're
gonna talk more about what's going onin the state of Alabama generally in a
minute. But Dantell your thoughts.Yeah, man, I echo a lot
of what you said. This isa this is an egregious case. And
again, the thing that really reallybothers me is this young man was doing
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the right thing right. So whenwhen George Floyd gets murdered or when somebody
else gets murdered, the response is, well, you just need to comply,
and then when you see this,it's like, well, this young
man was polite, he knew hisrights, he wasn't doing anything wrong,
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wasn't drunk, wasn't high, wasn'twasn't in the wrong at all. She
literally had no reason to stop none. She could have said, oh,
instead of having compassion, like oh, you have a flat tire, Well,
let me try to make sure thatyou know you're safe right there on
the side of freeway. Let metry to make sure that you're like safe.
Let's let's try and deter traffic,right, let's make sure no cars
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come no her for let me seesome idd then I mean it. She
would get everything wrong and then compoundedShe did everything wrong within the interaction and
then compounded it by trying to makesure this young man got locked up.
It's absurd and quite honestly, again, it's infuriating, man that here we
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are yet again with another situation likethis, and people will try to throw
water on it by making it seemlike, oh, well, it doesn't
happen all the time. No,it doesn't get caught on video all the
time, because we wouldn't know anythingabout this if it wasn't on video,
and this officer, from everything Iread, didn't know she was being recorded.
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So here we are again, likeshe thought she was gonna do this
and get away with it. Whichthen, if somebody can be so flagrant
when it comes to abuse of power, it leads me to believe that they
have never that they have done thisbefore. You are not so comfortable with
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just assaulting somebody and violating someone's rightsand abusing your authority for the first time.
This could not you are not.She did this as if it was
second nature for her. Right.She was very smug. She was laughing,
almost laughing and smiling through the process. So it's not you don't talk
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to people like that for the firsttime. Right, You are not this
comfortable breaking the law, and that'swhat she did. She's a lawbreaker.
As a police officer, she's alawbreaker. You are not this comfortable doing
that and abusing your authority for thefirst time. So her entire record needs
to be examined because as who hasshe railroaded before in the past that wasn't
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caught on video, And that's thepoint that really needs to be made.
When you see police brutality on camera, you need to really think and understand
if you can do this on cameraor or if you did this without realizing
you've been recorded, while you you'veprobably done this before and you sleep well
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at us. We need to examineyour whole entire arrest record to see who
else have you railroaded, who elsehas a story to tell and at least
hearing, because this is flagrant,I mean the most one of the most
disrespectful cases I've ever seen. Ithink, at minimum from a policy perspective,
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because you know, I'm always thinkingabout policy from a policy perspective,
at the bare minimum, and thisis the bare minimum. At the bare
minimum, none of these police departmentsshould have officers on the street without body
cams, at the bear minimum,because if that, if his brother did
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not record that, we would neverknow. Correct. So at the very
least, at the very least,there should be a national body cam law
making every single police department in thiscountry making it a requirement for their officers
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to have body cams. At abare minimum, robbing your thoughts. So,
first I want to start off withwhy is it every time a situation
like this happens, these officers arelet on leave paid leave first? And
for that is my first question becausehow is this officer allowed to leave on
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pay when she just committed crime?Like technically, yeah, I mean it's
it's I mean, let's be honest. It's been a question, oh for
sure. But you know where I'mgoing with that. She did, you
know? Yeah, But it's crazyto me because this man, all he
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was trying to do was change histire, like he going back and forth
for the tools. He's trying togo back and forth of all he trying
to do is change his tire.What did he do so wrong? And
then for her to talk to himlike he ain't noth in but some dirt
up underneath her shoe, talking aboutshut the f up, holding the stun
gun to his back while he's gothis face planted into the car. This
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man is not in the fear forhis own life like all because he's changing
his tire. When you could havejust been like, oh okay, like
Dante saying, like, you know'toffer assistance. Okay, let me stay,
let me turn my lights on sopeople could see you. You know
what I mean? It could besomething as simple as that. Yeah,
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like you ain't even got to speakto him. Oh okay, let me
just turn my lights on, goahead and change your tire. I mean,
I get, I get she's awoman, So I'm not saying go
change this man's tire. But theleast she could do is that, so,
I mean, and then to turnaround and place all these false charges
on him, that's bizarre, Likethat's insane, Like how do you just
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throw out things and then say thathe you know, he's a criminal already
when he's not clearly. I feellike, just like Dante was saying,
and I was sitting there thinking it'scrazy when he was saying it, I
was thinking it, like, theyreally do need to pull her track record,
like to see what she has inthe past, because I can guarantee
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there's a list of things. It'sprobably a book, depending on upon how
long she's been an officer. Butthat's crazy. How they abuse their power.
That is crazy. Yeah, yeah, no, it was. It
was wild. And I agree withboth of y'all. Every single case that
she has been a part of needsto be examined, every single case.
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And then the question that I haveDante, why was why was the DA
so quick to jump on these chargeswithout any proof whatsoever? You know,
if man like you should be ableto look and see if he's an actual
fellon or not before you charge himas being an ex felon in possession of
a gun. Do we know howlarge is that town or that municipality that
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that's you know, it's a smallit's a small town, a small county.
Rather, I mean, I'm gonnasay something that you know, I'm
sure you guys probably don't feel comfortablesaying, but I'm gonna say it.
How would she treat it if itwas me, someone like that looked like
me, someone like me that waschanging theirs tire? What would she do?
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That's a good question. I thinkI think we know the answer to
that was that was a question,but it was a statement, you know
what I mean? Yeah, that'sright, that's right. So Dante,
to answer your question, the cityis the city of Reform, Alabama.
Uh, it's seventeen hundred people.That's that's the size of the population.
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Now the side of the county isnineteen thousand, So this is this is
a small town Alabama. Yeah,you know, I don't want to be
prejudiced against the small towns and everybut I mean, we you know,
we understand, right, we understandwell, and I've had people tweeting.
I've had people tweeting at me whoknow about that area. I had one
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person say to me that that's Pickensis a sundown county. You drive in
and out of that, boyd youknow what I mean. Now, keep
in mind Michael Washington. They saidhe was twenty four years old. I
ain't ever experienced anything like this,right, He's younger than all of us.
And you know there are and thisis I promise you, this is
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not a knock on the South becauseI know we have listeners in the South,
and my family is from the South. My father was born in Alabama.
You know, yeah, so thisisn't I'm not dogging Alabama. I'm
not dogging the people, the regularpeople, the normal people. I know
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that there's good people in Alabama.But there are some problems in the state
of Alabama. First of all,you have this situation. Now you have
if y'all remember the incident on theboat in Montgomery where now, after that
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happened, we all saw the blackguy, who I believe was the captain.
We all saw him get jumped bythose white dudes and he fought back,
trying to protect himself. But Alabama, last I saw, and I
haven't uh, I haven't checked theupdate recently, but last I saw,
they charged the captain with assault whenhe was clearly attacked and clearly attacked on
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the video. So you had that, you had. There was an incident
that I was just made aware oftoday that in a black area the sewer
system was so backed up with sewagethat the federal government had to intervene on
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civil rights causes. In other words, there is a question as to whether
they allowed that to happen on purpose. Then you have the US Supreme Court
this year ordered Alabama. They saidthat Alabama was in violation of Voting Rights
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Act and they had to create anotherblack district or or district close to it,
as close to being majority black asyou could. They violated a court
order from the United States Supreme Court. They just basically said no, we're
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not going to do it. Theyhad to get sued again, go back
to court again, and they madethem enforce it again. All of these
things, all of these things happenedthis year in twenty twenty three. Here's
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the sewage story. Federal government intervenesin Alabama's sewage crisis on civil rights grounds.
This is May fourth, twenty twentythree. The federal government has found
that Alabama's rampant sewage issues in poorand minority communities in the Black Belt raised
concerns of civil rights violations, andfederal officials are working with state authorities to
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implement a solution to issues that haveplagued the area for decades. And an
investigation begun in twenty twenty one bythe US Justice Department's Civil Rights Office determined
that the Alabama Department of Public Health'senforcement of sanitation laws threatened residents of Louds
County with criminal penalties and even potentialproperty laws for sanitation conditions that they did
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not have the capacity to alleviate.The investigation, conducted by the Civil offices
of the Justice Department and the Departmentof Health and Human Services found that ADPH
engaged in a consistent pattern of anaction and or neglect concerning the health risks
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associated with raw sewage. According tothe Justice Department news release Raw Sewage This
happened in May. This is Thefederal investigations stated that despite adph's awareness of
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the issues and the disproportionate burden andimpact placed on black residents in Lowes County.
It failed to take meaningful actions toremedy these conditions. Without access potential
sewer lines or working septic systems,many residents of the Black Belt have resorted
to straight piping sewage waste directly intothe ground, meaning the waste flows directly
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into some yards, potentially exposing childrento health risks right outside of their homes.
This practice creates unsafe conditions, butmany low income residents cannot afford a
better solution. So clearly there aresignificant issues in Alabama. Here's a perfect
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example. They were enforcing a lawabout raw sewage satitation laws. Read this
sentence again. The Alabama Department ofPublic Health enforcement of sanitation laws threatened residents
of Laws County with criminal penalties andeven potential property laws taking your house for
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sanitation conditions. They did not havethe capacity to alleviate. Why has the
state of Alabama not made sure thatthose people have working plumbing. It's twenty
twenty three. It was neglected,and the Justice Department believes intentional. So
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that is four incidents, four majorincidents, including this new one that we're
talking about now, four major incidentsin the state of Alabama in twenty twenty
three. All four of those incidentshappened this year. Dante, Clearly there's
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some issues in Alabama. No,there really is, or there really are.
I I don't know, man,I don't know. You seeing a
lot of this stuff around the country, and it's like, why why are
we going backwards? Now? Don'tdon't get me wrong, like you like
you know, we talk about thisall the time. There has obviously been
incredible progress made. But when yousee things like this and he you know,
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you hear the Justice departments kind ofsay that this they believe it was
done intentionally, It's like, whatis going on? Man? What this
should not This type of stuff shouldnot be happening, right, the type
of stuff that we saw with withmister Washington and also an Alabama it we
should be so much farther past this, right, especially when you would have
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people tell you right, when youwould post about stuff like this, right,
and you wait into these political waterson Twitter more than I do now,
just because I don't have the stomachor the patience for some of the
responses and some of the people thatyou know you'll talk to, right,
this is something you know, justin the side. I tell Darky this
all the time. He is aman of great patience, and if y'all
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knew him how I know him,y'all would be just as shocked as I
am that he can be so calmwith some of these people on Twitter.
I'm not. I don't have apatience for that. You know, he
could be an educator. I don'thave the patience for that, because some
of these people will literally look youin your face or will tell you with
a straight face, and this isin person and on social media, and
tell you, well, you shouldjust be colorblind. We don't see,
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we don't see this stuff. Really, really, you don't you want you
want a color blind society when stufflike this is happening. Really, like
Robin said, what would this policeofficer had but this police officer had to
responded to a white person that sameway? Of course, we don't know,
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but I have my suspicions, right, I'm entitled to make a you
know, I'm entitled to make tomake an assumption here. So you you
want me to have a colorblind socidey? You? You you think that if
people would just comply, nothing wouldhappen. Well, proven wrong? You
think that in twenty twenty three,we pass all this racism stuff right,
(38:07):
well wrong. You're just uncomfortable withthe conversation. You just don't have the
stomach for the conversation. And quitehonestly, you might you might not want
to have a conversation because you mighthave some issues of your own. When
(38:30):
I see some of the responses tosome of this stuff, I say,
hmm, these these are responses frompeople who who say they love you.
These are responses from people who whoclaim to be allies. Maybe everybody should
(38:52):
look in the mirror that part classwordsmiss about it. All in all,
it's a very uh, disgusting situation. That's really all I can say.
All Right, on the note,stay tuned. We have Tea Time with
(39:14):
Row coming up next here on theOutlaws. This is the Outlaws Radio Show.
Welcome back you listening to the Outlaws. And now was the time of
the show that we like to calltea Time with Roe. Turn it up,
out the infectation, the latest celebritynews, and gossipation. It's Tea
(39:37):
Time with Row on the Outlaws RadioShow. I got a few little topics
for you. I mean, it'snot a little sizzling hot, but it's
hot enough. I mean, butwe're gonna start off with the hottest cup.
I mean, in my opinion personally, because like first and foremost,
(40:01):
everybody loves Ashanti. I mean Ido anyway, Like how could you not
love her music? Like, andshe a baddie forroh Like so and she
is recently not too long ago,I think that I had said that she
is dating Nelly and so now,huh that's yeah, they got back together.
(40:24):
Yeah, And a lot of peoplewere like, how do you know
that they're together? Do you notsee them posting all over the place stupid
like but no, So Ashanti,she basically put it out there. Ashanti
is pregnant. She is expecting herfirst child with Nelly, And I mean,
(40:45):
I'm actually kind of excited for herbecause truthfully, let's let's be honest.
Throughout the years, Ashanti's music hasbeen fire. Let's start out with
that. But oddly it was firedbecause every time she get her heart broke
that if she just her pen belike going no. And in twenty twenty
(41:10):
three, she gets to have theblessing of starting her family with the man
who originally she was dating years ago. It did not work out, I'm
not sure of the reasons they wereyoung, So I'm really very much happy
for her with that. Yeah,congratulations, congratulations to a Scianti and Nellie
(41:36):
Dactor. You got anything I addon this. I'm salty. Me and
Ashanti could have had the perfect lovestory. Her birthday is October thirteenth.
My birthday is October thirteenth. Itcould have been an incredible love story.
Nelly already has children, if I'mnot mistaken, I don't have any,
So like we could have started outtogether. We could have built our family
(42:00):
from scratch. And I'm not hatingon Nelly. I respect it. You
know, he's doing this thing thistime around. You know that's cool.
Congratulations. But you know, ifAshanti would have looked at my DM,
she would have seen that, youknow, there was other options out there.
Wait a minute, Dante a shotin her forty forty forty three.
(42:22):
Okay, Well she can still getpregnant, so that's all that matter.
We can still She's still she notpast her child bearing age, so we
could still we should have still madeit happen. But she, you know,
didn't look at my DMS for whateverreason. And you know, I
guess she had to settle for whatshe had to settle for. But I'm
(42:44):
just saying she listened to you know, it was other It was you have
options, honey, you was notyou have other choices. But congratulations,
that's we happy that happened for youknow, moving along, Dante's heartbroken.
(43:08):
So I don't know if anybody knowsthis or not. Like Dante was just
saying how he has a birthday twin, So shout out to my birthday twin
who is no longer here with us. It's been quite a long time.
So Aliyah, Aliyah, she allegedlyhas new music coming, and I don't
(43:32):
know how I feel about this.Hopefully it's true and not just some random
rumor. If she does, that'sabout to be on replay period. Yeah,
I'm I was a big Aliah fan. I still play Aliah's music.
I would love to hear. Soyou said this was this was stuff.
(43:53):
Obviously, this was stuff that shedid before she passed. So probably like
what because she passed in two thousandand one, so like around that area
something like that. Actually I thinkit was about two thousand exactly, Okay,
a year before Okay, yeah,so because she passed in two thousand
and one, But so this musicshe probably recorded around two thousand. Yeah,
(44:15):
it'll be interested to hear Dante.I know, it's it's it's always
kind of controversial when people release musicfrom artists that have passed away. To
me, you know, as afan of some of these artists, as
long as you know you stay trueto the sound, to their sound,
(44:39):
you know, I don't have aproblem with it. I don't like if
you like, I don't want tohear Marvin Gaye using auto tune, you
know what I mean? Like,I don't want to hear something like that.
If you stay true to the sound, even if it's a new producer
or new production or whatever. Youknow, I'm cool with it. What's
your thoughts. I don't really havean opinion either way. I would just
(45:01):
say, let make sure that thepeople you know, like her family or
whatever, like, make sure thatthey can eat off of that too.
Yeah, if if she you know, I don't she not no kids or
anything, but like, if sheyou know, any surviving relatives, let
let's let's let them eat off ofthat. You know, don't don't sit
(45:24):
up here and release her stuff andnot let any of her loved ones,
people who she would want to geta peace, not have anything right,
don't don't do her state like thatthat that would be my only thing.
But other than that, I mean, you know, go for it.
I don't. You know, itdoesn't bother me either way. Max,
(45:46):
all right, So this one kindof threw me for a loop. Wasn't
expecting it. I don't think anyof us would have been expecting this.
So a woman recently was arrested forpouring gas a lie trying to burn down
Martin Luther King Junior's birth home inAtlanta, Like says, why why?
(46:15):
Yeah? Yeah, that's insane,Dante. Did you want to say any
other stuff that she's off the air? Well, I just want to make
sure. Do we know where CandaceOwns was at this time? It wasn't.
No, I don't think it wasthere. I don't think it was
(46:36):
there. It wasn't. Has shebeen in communication with Candace? Well,
we don't know that yet. Okay, need to keep an eye on watch
for those conspiracy charges. It soundslike this sounds like something up Candice owners
Alley go ahead, wrong, Ican say that, you know it is,
(46:57):
Like I said, it's something outof the norm and caught. You
know, everybody off guard because normallythis is not something that is normally done
by a black woman, you know, by trying to set the house on
fire by somebody like Martin Luther KingJunior. Like it's it's kind of it's
caught us all off guard. ButI'm really curious to what her reasoning was,
(47:21):
Like, was she put up toit? Is she just like mentally
ill? Like what is what isthe case? Yeah? Yeah, did
you have anything else? Or isthat it? So? I do have
one work thing. Uh so Ihaven't really been keeping up with it as
(47:43):
much, but I will say thatthere has been a situation going on behind
closed doors. It was actually notsupposed to come out. You know,
somebody released it behind Amon Schumper andTianna Taylor's back, Like we don't know
who. I have not seen anythingabout who, but somebody did release it,
(48:04):
uh their private information as far astheir divorce. So Amon Schumpert allegedly
so he there's a situation that happenedwhere it was miss he was mistreating Tianna
Taylor. But he's basically saying thatTianna Taylor never proved that he made her
(48:27):
feel in danger, despite making theclaim in a recently uh filed divorce papers.
He does want the court to takeaction and to remove Tayana Tianna Taylor's
accusation from the documents. Tianna putssomething called cruel treatment as grounds for the
couple's divorce, which is defined aswillful will film willful, can't get my
(48:49):
words up, infliction of pain bodilyor mental reasonably justifies apprehension of danger to
life, limb, or else.Yeah, it's unfortunate to see. You
know, I like them. Iliked uh Tianna Taylor. You know,
(49:13):
I actually like you know, alot of her music. She makes some
really good songs. And of course, you know, Emon is a legend
here. He was part of thatthat championship team in Cleveland. Uh,
it's unfortunate, man to see.Uh, when divorces get ugly and Robin
(49:35):
you said, this is something,This is information that wasn't even supposed to
be out right, This is noteven supposed to be out Yeah, somebody
leaked it, man. That that'sthat's so tacky. That's so tacky.
You know, celebrity is it's tough. I'm sure, because you know,
then you got to worry about youknow, just random just being like,
(49:58):
yeah, let me let me getthe you know, the bonus points for
the cool points, you know,for the media or whatever. Let me
just get this out, get thisstory, maybe get a paycheck just for
putting this person's private life out therelike that. I couldn't even imagine.
Yeah, yeah, no, Imean data. I can imagine that either.
Like if if somebody in my circleleaks something that was personal to me,
(50:23):
not only would they not be inmy circle anymore, you better make
sure I don't go kick the act. Yeah. I don't really have too
much to say about this one.I agree with the overall point that,
you know, it would be toughto be a celebrity, you know how
(50:43):
I am. Though, anytime amember of the twenty sixteen Cavaliers comes up,
I just want to say thank youbecause that was a remarkable run.
So I hope Emon can pull throughthis. I wish where Tiana as well.
(51:04):
She seems like a cool person.I just wish the best for our
guy man, because you know,everybody on the twenty sixteen calves deserves the
best. So you know, justran far. Brother, I'm not sure
the whole thing a guy the guyrespond, you understand, but I don't
(51:25):
think Robert, I don't think you, and I don't know if I watch
basketball faithfully, No, I don'tthink you. Wasn't in the trenches with
the cows in two thousand and two, in two thousand and one before Lebron
got here, okay around still blue. Okay, y'all ain't lived through that,
and y'all didn't take it to heartwhen Lebron lost, when Lebron left
(51:47):
and then came back, like,y'all don't understand so I but because you
know, you remember when it's whenit's when the seats were lou and it
was called the gund Arena and wewere fifteen games a year, and people
was laughing at us, and somepeople thought that we might lose the cast
(52:08):
the way we lost the Brown likelisten, okay, and then that all
around and win a championship like look, you ain't finna hear me say nothing
bad about nobody on that twenty sixteenbut wrong. But if he actually did
do something like us, we don'tknow what he did. I say,
(52:30):
let that stay between them because theywere Tomerica. I'm not involved with their
relationship. I don't know nothing aboutthat, and I just hope that you
know they can pull it through.All he knows is that he helped us
with that exactly. I don't.I tell y'all this all the time.
(52:52):
I love sports. I love certainathletes, and I respect certain athletes to
discipline and what they can mean tomy team or to my city or to
my you know, to my favoriteorganization. I do not. I don't
care at all about a lot ofthese when it comes to their personal lives.
I'm not interacting with them, likewe're not social friends, we don't
(53:15):
hang out like that. I don'tthat none of that. Imon Schumper's divorce
does not impact my life like Idoesn't Bob like. I don't care about
that. I just wish the brotherwell because he helped my team win a
championship. That's it. Listen you, your personal life does not matter to
(53:37):
me as long as as long asyou don't hurt children. I don't care.
I don't care, because that's that'sthat's something we can never come back
from. We're talking about. Butthe potential, like the allegedly of him
hurting a woman they were married,and those are very very tricky, and
(53:58):
so I do not put my Idon't put my mouth on that either way,
as long as you don't hurt children, I'm okay, because I don't
know when it's a domestics Listen,you know, we don't no sort of
domestic violence or no sort of violence. Again, I don't put my mouth
in those situations because I have noidea they were married, we don't.
(54:22):
I don't know what that's about.They're filing for divorce, so they obviously
was getting along at some point andthey don't now, so all a bad
stuff is gonna come. I knownothing about that. Yeah, I told
uh go through. But we wonthe twenty sixteen title. Yeah, I
had said we had a similar topicwhen you weren't here, Donte, And
(54:45):
you know, I told Ramo,I don't like, I'm very cautious about
touching those type of topics and issuesbecause we just we don't know. You
just don't know. And then especiallylike in in divorces, divorces hell,
y'all, like you're like, I'ma need jab people listening. I'm gonna
(55:07):
need job to pay a little moreattention to who you get married to and
make sure it's really worth it ifyou have to get a divorce, because
divorce is hell. I mean thelawyers, like y'all, lawyer's job is
to tear the other one down,you know what I mean. And so
(55:27):
you know, divorces are rarely likeapplicable and pleasant, and like divorces usually
get ugly. They usually get uglyand all sorts of allegations start getting thrown.
And you know, like Dante said, you just you don't know,
You just don't know, but goahead, right, which is like I
(55:50):
don't say you right, I mean, I mean I was gonna say,
you know, I guess that kindof gives me the the thought of I
hope when it's my time that itdoes not come to that point of getting
a divorce. Like, first ofall, we're not getting a divorce.
Just go sleep on the couch.We'll talk to about yeah, because in
(56:15):
this we in this forever. Shesaid, she said, your asking going
nowhere. It's a totally different tohim. If he cheats, if he
cheats, Darby, O, goget the bail money. It might be.
So we don't. We don't know. And that's what I just.
(56:37):
You know, when it comes todomestic stuff, I try to make it
light because those things can be veryyou know what I'm saying, you know,
I don't know, but Dante,if he cheat, if he cheats
and then the woman turns around anddoes the same thing, I can guarantee
you his heart gonna come out,his whole chest, throw a whole temperature
(57:00):
because maybe don't maybe or maybe youdon't. Women, every man carey.
Men cannot handle the same bs thatwomen be going through. All right,
that's not the topic. That's notthe topic. We're not about to go
because here's she going robbing, aboutto get on her soapbox. All right,
(57:23):
it's time. It's time to goto break. Stay tuned. We
have hot text coming up next hereon The Outlaws. Welcome back, Welcome
(57:46):
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it Dante's Hot Takes, telling thetruth whether you like it or not.
(58:13):
It's Dante's hot takes on the YoungLawns radio show. All right, So
I set the time aside on Wednesdayto finally watch a GOP debate, and
(58:34):
I was just so disappointed that thisis how far the GOP has fallen.
Now I understand that that the frontrunner was not on the stage, right,
Donald Trump was not there, butfrom the four and I'm putting this
in air quotes contenders, I havenever watched the bait and come away so
(59:02):
unimpressed and again so disappointing by theby the candidates on the stage ever in
my life. And so if youknow me, you understand, yes I
do care about politics, but ifyou're not good at that, the least
you could do is entertain me.Right, That's where I started initially with
(59:24):
Trump, where I was like oofin twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, it
was like ooh, not really abig fan, don't you know. I
can't really get with this. Butthe guy's in and he entertains me.
I don't mind. I didn't mindwatching him punch figuratively of course, punch
down on like Marco Rubio and TedCruz and Jeb Bush. That at least
(59:47):
entertained me, right, and thenit became like, oh wow, he
can actually win this thing. Butthat's you know, so at least if
you are not good politically, beentertaining. If I you know, it's
on TV, it's a TV show, at least give me something. I
got absolutely nothing. I had ChrisChristie, who tries to distance himself so
(01:00:13):
much from Trump. It's almost deplorablein my opinion, simply because you know,
I'm old enough and I have thememory of somebody who's, you know,
not a toddler. So I rememberwhen Chris Christy was essentially a Donald
Trump boot liquor and was on everysingle cable news show talking about how wonderful
Trump is. And now he can'tstand the guy, So you instantly have
(01:00:38):
no credibility with me. I watchedVivek essentially do a Trump impersonation all the
way down to his hand movements,you know the thing that really you know,
I'm a Second Amendment guy, rightI talk about this all the time.
I'm a gun owner. I'm anavid shooter, right this. I
(01:01:00):
I have firearms. I always believeI am considered radical when I believe that
we shouldn't have any any laws foryou know, regarding guns. I watched
Vivek say that the best way todeter China from invading Taiwan is to make
(01:01:20):
Taiwan have a Second Amendment and armevery civilian. In what universe do you
get off telling another country, hey, you need to pass a law that
makes you look more like America,and everybody in your bro they that's not
how they operate. And I understandAmerican exceptionalism, but that's not how this
(01:01:44):
works. I you know, we'vetalked about Ron De Santis at nauseum on
this podcast, and I you knowagain, he is, in my opinion,
the most boring of the candidates.He looks so incomp comfortable up there.
There's just something about his whole demeanorthat I just ever since the stuff
(01:02:07):
with him has continuously come out,and as Darviyo put it on the show
last week, how he seems togo out of his way to be disrespectful
towards black people. It's just somethingabout him that sort of makes my skin
crawl. And then you have NickiHaley, who everyone wanted to attack yesterday
and or on Wednesday, and thething that really just got me was like,
(01:02:29):
Wow, they're really coming at NickiHaley. Nicki Haley a complete non
threat. That's where your party is, that the front runner can't be on
stage because he's an illegal bride,he's in a legal battle trying to keep
himself out of prison. And thenthe four next candidate, or that your
(01:02:50):
three next contenders are attacking Nicky Haleybecause maybe she's the next front runner.
I don't know, man. Iwas just it again, so unimpressed and
also disappointed. And maybe I shouldhave been disappointed with myself because I've talked
(01:03:10):
about this for over a year nowthat Republicans should have pivoted away from Trump,
because when you saw that he wasthe Republican candidate that lost you the
Senate in Georgia, maybe it's timeto pivot from him. Maybe it doesn't
work anymore. Maybe I should bedisappointed with myself for still finding the time
(01:03:36):
to watch that, knowing that theyhaven't developed any other candidates, and that
I knew it going in, butI still decided, no, I'm gonna
watch. I'm gonna give it ashot. And I came away distraught because
that's on fund side and Joe Bidenis on the other side. So I
(01:04:03):
would say, first of all,I think Trump. I think the reason
I don't even think I had muchto do with his legal cases, that
he's not at the debates. He'snot at the debates because he didn't want
to be on stage with the pips, like it was, that's the JV,
that's the JV squad. And hewas like, I'm up forty in
(01:04:28):
the polls, right, He's like, what incentive do I have to come
down here and you know, participating. Let's see who the tallest midget is
debate, you know what I mean? Like that is who I heard is
like five to five and a half. I heard he wear heels too,
but I digressed from topway boots,so he could be five nine. I
(01:04:50):
digressed. I digress. I mean, I would argue in the polls,
the poll suggests this too, thatwith the exception of maybe Nicky Haley,
who doesn't have a chance to bethe Republican nominee, none of the other
candidates performed better against Biden than Trumpdoes. So with that, yeah,
(01:05:13):
those come on, come on.Can you imagine if a VEC on a
national stage with with Joe Biden,Now he may win the debates because you
know, Biden's not lucy, butthat wouldn't be that would not be a
competitive race in a general Come on, no, And and by Biden would
be DeSantis as well, and thisis Roger cam Yeah, and I'm not
(01:05:41):
even gonna go there, but soyou know, none of those like the
problem that Nicki Haley has is thatshe would be a good general election candidate,
but she's a terrible primary candidate.And if you're a bad primary candidate,
you can't get to the general election, right, So that's the issue.
That's the issue that she has.DeSantis is just a bad candidate,
(01:06:05):
period. And you know the interestingthing about DeSantis is, and I say
this all the time, and peopledon't understand what I'm saying. Now,
I know that there's a lot there'sthere's a percentage of people who like Trump's
demeanor and attitude and the way hetalks, but that's not the majority of
(01:06:27):
people. Even the majority of peoplewho voted for him. The majority of
people who voted for him voted forhim in spite of his of his attitude.
They voted for him because they likehis policies, right, And what
a lot of these frauds try todo is they adopt Trump's attitude without adopting
(01:06:47):
his policies. So they and thenyou wonder why it doesn't work. It
doesn't work because you adopted the onething that people don't like about him,
and you did adopt the thing thatpeople do like about him. Right,
and then on top of this,on top of that, I used to
call Trump during the primary in twentyfifteen, twenty sixteen, I used to
(01:07:10):
call him Trump the insult comic dog, right, like he's nobody is better
at that than him. You alllook at pales in comparison. You can't
out Trump Trump. You know whatI'm saying. I watched his interview.
He did an interview with Sean Hannitythis week, and he said something I
(01:07:31):
don't even remember what it was,but it was some insult that literally almost
made me like spit, take laugh, you know what I'm saying. Like,
he's just He's an actual entertainer.He can you know what I mean.
He was on television for years andso when you have when you have
the pips out there trying to dowhat he does, it just it.
(01:07:57):
You know, you ever go tothe store and you see like frosted flakes,
and then right below it. Yousee frosty flakes, where got like
the faith, Ain't it ain't atiger's like a kangaroo or something. You
know, they're they're the great valueTrump. You know what I'm saying.
(01:08:20):
They're off bread like. It doesn'twork, y'all, Cake, You're not
adopting his policies, which is thething that people actually like. And you
can't adopt his personality because you're notas good at it as him. It
just makes you look like a jackass. And that's what you see it.
(01:08:40):
And finally to your point about ChrisChristie, Chris Christie drives me nuts because
again, like you said, heinsults everybody's intelligence. First of all,
he was as far as politics goes, he was Trump before Trump was Trump.
He's always been an ass. Hewas an ass when he was the
governor in New Jersey. He hadhis moment. I think you're seeing to
(01:09:05):
guy who knew he could have beenpresident. His moment was in twenty twelve
and he chose not to run.When Mitt Romney was running and none at
the base of the Republican Party wantedhim, right, Mitt Romney became the
nominee because he was the last oneleft. People were calling for Chris Christy
(01:09:29):
to get in that race. ChrisChristy missed his moment, he missed his
opportunity, and then, like yousaid, he kissed Donald Trump's ass when
it was convenient for him, andthen when he didn't get what he wanted
from Trump, he turns one andnow he's running pretending to be the savior
(01:09:50):
of the Republican Party from the meand old Donald Trump. When just three
years ago you were on your handsand or four years ago you were on
your hands and knees kissed his wholeass. It's like, come on,
man, like this is this isa joke. It's a joke, and
you're seeing a bitter, broken manwho knew he had a moment and missed
(01:10:13):
his moment. And now Chris Christywill never be president. He will never
be president. To be honest withyou, I don't think. I'm not
so sure any of them that wereon that stage, any of the pips,
will be president anytime soon. Allright, last thoughts and let him
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