Ep. 409 - The day before the Election

On the day before what feels like the longest Presidential election in history, the Outlaws team give their thoughts about the cycle and what's to come. 

Episode Transcript

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Speaker 4 (01:48):
At the Outlaws Radio. We have blah blah blah. We
have a lot of face to discuss. But first, miss O'Malley,
how are you? We're been so maley at We'll come
back to her. Dante, how you.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Doing sir, I'm good. I'm good.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
I'm hype man.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
You got me talking about the cas and you know
when he was off air like man, and of course
they're winning again by twenty right home, I've been telling
people you follow me on Twitter, I've been twitching the
Casalo in a whole lot of games this year. So
I'm doing great right now. I'll be happier when this

(02:32):
election cycle is over because I don't want any more
political ads. I don't want any more of these texts. No,
I'm not trying to help Kamala. No, I'm not trying
to help Bernie Moreno. No, I'm not trying to help
you Share Brown. No, I'm not trying to talk to
you Donald Trump, like, can y'all leave me alone? And

(02:55):
you know what's even worse is you'll you'll opt out,
like text back no to opt out. Fifteen minutes later,
you'll get another text from another random number like, hey,
we were just curious if you voted yet is not
texting me? What is going on? So that that's the

(03:16):
only thing that's bringing my move down right now. But
other than that, it's been I'm doing well.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Well, it's almost over. It's almost over.

Speaker 6 (03:26):
I have worked on campaigns before, so I have been
part of the teams that.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Have been sending you text messages before.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Is it an oversaturation now though, it feels like it's
more than that.

Speaker 6 (03:38):
Oh yeah, because there's multiple there's multiple campaigns doing it
at the same time, and they all using the same lists.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah, yeah, this isn't over I don't know, and I
don't know if we're past the point of diminishing returns
at all with some of the ads and outreach. I'm
guessing we probably are pasted, you know, past the point
of dimension, like I would guess.

Speaker 6 (04:07):
But well, right now, they're they're at the stage of
trying to make sure people that they know are voters
actually go to the polls. Yeah, so that's kind of.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
The chase process now.

Speaker 6 (04:26):
But yeah, of course, I mean it's everybody has the
same list or similar lists.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
And they're all calling and texting and sitting.

Speaker 6 (04:35):
I don't even I don't even want to look at
my emails, man, because the amount of political emails I
get are just ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
The amount that I delete on a regular on a
regular day is just Anykay.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
You don't you can't.

Speaker 6 (04:53):
You can't block it because as soon as you block it.
By the times you block it, they didn't already sold your.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Number to another.

Speaker 6 (04:59):
List, because don't forget you got the campaigns and you
have the outside groups.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (05:08):
So by the time you you say, don't call me
no more, didn't already soldier number.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Oh yeah, so you can forget.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
About that brother, all right? Robin, Yes, I was like, oh,
I went to you first. I'm like, Robin, hello, Hello.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
That'd be my bad. I was making me some tea
we have we have. This week has been a little
crazy for me. I hope it's only seasonal allergies for me,
but I have been dealing with my son this whole week.
He has been sick feavers running from ninety nine to

(05:58):
one hundred and three all the way up to today.
So it was about four days straight. And so we
actually went to the doctor today and turns out that
he has pneumonia.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Oh wow, yeah, so that's fun.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
I'm like, I need some tea right now.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
So I had to.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
I was not near the phone.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
I was about to say, put some licking.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
I had I had liquor earlier because of good news.

Speaker 7 (06:31):
So so so real quick, I have a lot of
things to discussed.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
We're gonna be kind of.

Speaker 6 (06:43):
In and out of here, but we gotta I gotta
touch on this.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
Dante mentioned it a little bit at the beginning here.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
But.

Speaker 6 (06:53):
It seems like it has taken forever. It seems like
this has been the longest election of my entire freaking life.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
But we are finally, finally, finally, almost at the end
of this damn thing. Dante.

Speaker 6 (07:12):
Once you're saying out there with shoe predictions, first of all,
I need to ask you, first of all, have you
put any money on anything?

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah, the answer is yes, I have, so put it
to you this way, as a responsible better, I initially
made one bet on one on one candidate to win
the presidency, and then when things when she reached her heights,

(07:42):
like a responsible better, I went back and met the
other side to guarantee a profit. So whoever went on Tuesday,
I will win because and now I you know, we
can talk about this and well, I'm sure we'll discuss
this later like it's virtually a dead heat. So I

(08:06):
plan to enjoy winning money no matter who wins the presidency,
as long as there's nothing crazy that happens, which I'm
you know there is kind of an anticipation for that, right,
I don't know if we'll have a winner on Tuesday
Tuesday night, I don't know, but I'm sure it'll be close.
I'm sure you know we'll eventually get a winner. So yes,

(08:29):
I will. I do stand to enjoy winning some some cash,
if you know, if I wins. And that's just because
I don't really have a laying here, like I'm not
really seeing who I think is gonna win. I do.

(08:49):
And I'll tell you this. It's funny to me seeing
both sides interpret the same data and try and spin
it to to their if that makes sense, right, So
you can I've seen right, we're all paying attention to polls, right.
But you'll see Sarah's from the Harris campaign see the

(09:13):
Emerson poll and they'll say, oh, this is wonderful because
it shakes out just great for us, and blah blah blah,
and look look at this and look at this, and
look at this. And then you'll see a Sarah from
a Trump campaign look at use the same exact pole
and say, oh, no, this is perfect. Look at how
great this is for us because XYZ. And that's probably
my favorite thing. This cycle. It's just seeing how both

(09:36):
sides are basically trying to convince themselves that they've got
an advantage in what really seems like it's going to
be a fifty to fifty toss up race in a
few states.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Right, So I'll give you my thoughts real quick. I think.

Speaker 6 (09:55):
So we're seeing a little bit more than we're seeing
more than polling data. We're now starting to see votes.
We're starting to see actual votes. And you have to
be very careful about reading the tea leaves on early
vote because it's not telling you who they're voting for,
but you.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Can infer some things.

Speaker 6 (10:17):
One place that you can really look at as an
example is Nevada, because so many people in Nevada vote early.
Around eighty percent of their voters vote early.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
And what you've.

Speaker 6 (10:35):
Seen so far in Nevada, for example, is a comparative
for a state that Republicans haven't won since two thousand
and four. Republicans are far outpacing the Democrats in Nevada,
which usually doesn't happen because the Democrats usually dominate in

(10:57):
Clark County, which is Las Vegas, and that they normally
build up what they call the firewall, which ends up
being big enough to counter the Republican advantages in the
in the in the UH, in the rural areas. So

(11:17):
now what's happening is the Republicans are dominating in the
rural areas like way way way, way way above how
they normally vote, and the Clark County advantage is not
big enough to offset it. So the Democrats have a

(11:40):
have a serious problem in Nevada. Basically where it's at
now is if things continue on and you know, Friday
was the last day of early vote, So unless she wins,
unless Kamala wins Independence, which you can't see who they're
voting for, obviously, unless she wins Independence by ten points

(12:03):
or more, she's going to lose that state, which is
a state that nobody really expected her to lose.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
So when you look at the polling, the.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
Polling is not really matching the data on the ground.
And there's really two questions left in my view, that's
going to determine whether it's a slight Kamala victory, a
slight Trump victory, or a blowout in either direction. One

(12:37):
is is the polls off And there's some data to
suggest that the polls may be off because they may
be modeling for an electorate that doesn't exist.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
So if they're modeling.

Speaker 6 (12:53):
From the twenty twenty electorate and you're seeing that Republicans
are out, what people call low propensity voters, So that's
low propensity voter is somebody who if you've voted in
one of the last four elections or zero, you know
what I mean, you're a low propensity voter.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
Most campaigns usually.

Speaker 6 (13:15):
Focus on the threes and fours that you've voted three
out of last four elections or four out of the
last four elections.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
Those are your likely voters. Those are the ones that
you know are going to vote now.

Speaker 6 (13:29):
Campaigns who bring in low propensity voters the zero out
of four to one out of four to two out
of four, they can really disrupt a campaign. And a
perfect example of when you saw this was Barack Obama
in two thousand and eight. If you went by the
electorate that normally comes out, that race was much closer,

(13:53):
but because Obama brought so many new voters to the system,
it overwhelmed the system and it turned what looked like
a close race into a blowout. So the question is
who's doing that right now? We know for a fact
that Republicans are voting overwhelmingly early, in far bigger numbers

(14:20):
than they normally do. Right because as we know, four
years ago Trump told them not to vote early and
said it was rigged. Right, So now Republicans are voting
far earlier. Now, the Kamala Harris campaign they're arguing that
this is just them cannibalizing their their election day vote margin.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yep, right, that's that's what I not to catch up.
That's what I was. That's part of what you see,
especially in Pennsylvania. Right, And this is the what I
call the copium or both sides trying to cope, but
really the Hairs campaign trying to cope for what doesn't
look very promising. And say Pennsylvania, right because Ladd early

(15:06):
in the campaign, right when early voting had just kicked off,
you saw a lot of Democrats for Pennsylvania talking about
she can build up a if she can get to
a certain firewall in Pennsylvania. And at first it was
four hundred thousand, and then it went to eight hundred thousand.
They were saying, well, the election day advantage for Republicans

(15:29):
in Pennsylvania won't be there, right, but by her not
being able to get there. Now, it's well, they're cannibalizing,
they're cannibalizing their election day margins. So I'm just like,
and here's the danger you are, the danger to find
a cope in your in your data instead of just
interpreting the data for what it is.

Speaker 6 (15:48):
Well, and here's the danger in that. And this, this
is what I want to point out, because here's here's
the thing. If they're right, if they're accurate, then the
race is going to be very close, and she has
a chance to pull it out. If they're wrong, she
gonna get blown out. Like it's one or the other.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Either for her. Is that usually early voters tend to
be what younger Democrats.

Speaker 6 (16:26):
They're normally they're normally core of the Democratic base exactly.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
But they're also younger voters. So unless you think that
all of a sudden, older people are going to the
polls earlier, I don't think that it's wise to assume

(16:51):
that this is Trump's election de margin. I think if
I were interpreting the day that I would say, I
think this could be new voters, this could be low
propensity voters, this could be younger people more so sweet

(17:12):
voting early for Trump and that I would assume that
he may still have that election day advantage even if
it's not as great as it was in twenty twenty it.
Let's say it's eighty five to ninety percent of it,
which would still screw her.

Speaker 6 (17:32):
Yeah, she'd still well. And here's the thing. So to
go back to their point.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
Now, the reason why I question that is for two reasons.

Speaker 6 (17:45):
Even if they're let's let's say they're accurate, and they're like, well,
since we're not in a pandemic, our voter, more of
our voters are going.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
To vote on election day. I'm very skeptical of that
because Democratic voters are trained to vote early. So if
they're so.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
That doesn't explain Even if you say Republicans are a
caunibalizing their election day vote, that doesn't explain why Democratic
turnout as well. Right, That does not explain that. And
it doesn't explain why you think that a group of
people who have been habitually voting early are all of

(18:31):
a sudden going to change their.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Voting patterns and vote on election day. I don't buy that.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
I don't either. It doesn't it doesn't track and I
think again, I working in this field, working with data
is just not politically but just in my everyday, nine
to five job. You can make errors when it comes
to interpreting data by.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
Based on your assumptions, yep.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Based on but not just assumptions, but based on what
you want it to be. That's a very dangerous thing.
And that's why I said, this has been the most
interesting thing looking at the campaigns. It's seeing how it
really is just Democrats doing this, where like at first,
remember her firewall was supposed to be a certain number

(19:20):
in Pennsylvania, but when it became very clear that it
wasn't going to get there, you.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
See, the number kept going higher and higher, it.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Kept going higher and then and now that like early
voting is done and she's not close to any of
the numbers that they were saying was her firewall. Well
now it's well, he just cannibalized his own vote, and
now she may have the election day advantage, which is.

Speaker 8 (19:44):
Like, is that possible, Yeah, that's possible, but it's very
unlike yeah, very but that is that's a campaign that
is trying to convince them of something that may not
be there.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
And I'll just say this because I am a person
that I look at all this stuff and I really
believe it's gonna come down to very similar You know,
people have this idea that twenty twenty wasn't close, when
in reality, twenty twenty it doesn't look close. Selection matters,
it was close. Twenty twenty was basically eighty thousand votes

(20:26):
over like four or five different states. I am the
type of person that believes we could see an electoral landslide,
but that it'll be very close in a few states
unless she's not. If she doesn't win Pennsylvania, we're gonna
go home or early because you're not she I And

(20:49):
again we are seeing that they are making cases of
other paths to victory, which I understand that is a
campaign's job, right, It is going to be very difficult
for her to have a realistic path without winning Pennsylvania.

Speaker 6 (21:09):
That well, here's here's a thing too, And again we
could be wrong, and if and if we end up
being wrong and all of this, this whole conversation.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Is gonna be moot.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
But here's one point about that.

Speaker 6 (21:22):
Also, you'd have to go back to what the nineteen eighties,
where where you see Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan not vote
in the same direction, right, They always vote in the
same direction. So can that change, Yes, it's yes, anything

(21:43):
can change.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Records are made to be broken. Is it likely, No,
it's likely that all.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
Three of those states are going to vote in the
same direction. Now here's here's the thing that if you're
the Harris campaign, regardless of what they say publicly, these
are the concerns. And then I'll I'll get to the
one concern that I have left concerning the Trump campaign
that's going to determine what happens on Tuesday. But if
you're the Hairs campaign, you have significant issues because, regardless

(22:14):
of what's happening on the Republican side, democratic turnout is low.
They are not hitting their their numbers, their projections anywhere
with anybody, at any group. That's a problem. That's a
significant problem. Ye, Black voter turnout is low.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
That's a problem.

Speaker 6 (22:36):
I said from the beginning that she was probably going
to have to get Obama numbers in order to win.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
That's not going to happen. We see that's not going
to happen.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
And once again and privately and said that that you
know that that was not going to happen. That was
not going to happen, never going to happen.

Speaker 6 (22:55):
And if and if that's what she needs, she's already
in trouble because you're not going to be able to
drive a bunch of voters.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
Who don't vote ear who don't vote on election day,
who get them to vote on election day. That's the
other thing. The other issue is again, they're making a bet.

Speaker 6 (23:16):
They're making a bet that the increase they're willing to
acknowledge the increase in early vote among Republicans, but they're
betting that it's a cannibalization of the.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Election day vote.

Speaker 6 (23:28):
If they're wrong, she's going to get annihilated because that
means he has a much bigger advantage in early vote
than Republicans normally do. And Democrats get slaughtered on election day.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
They get slaughtered on election day.

Speaker 6 (23:47):
The reason why they win elections is because they stock
up so.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
Many votes in the early vote. Yep, that's why they win.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
So if you don't have that advantage, she's gonna get
blown out.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
But now here's the thing in her the question. I'm
not gonna say her advantage because I don't know. The
one question left.

Speaker 6 (24:10):
As far as the Trump campaign is concerned, what does
your ground game look like?

Speaker 4 (24:15):
For real? Because if they don't get.

Speaker 6 (24:19):
Their voters to the polls on election day, then the
race still can be much closer, and she still can
pull it out. Yeah, but if they actually get their
voters to vote, Trump's gonna win and it may not
be that close.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Yeah he I. And here's let's be honest about this.
Trump really had no ground game for the better part
of this cycle. His ground game really started to take
off after and I think people have underestimated this, but
his ground game started to really take off after he
got shot.

Speaker 6 (24:57):
Well, and not only that, but he's done something that
is unique. They've outsourced their ground game. Yeah, you know,
Elon must set up an outside group.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
That's about to get to that.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yep, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (25:13):
And and other group of right, and there's been some
other groups.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Now here's here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
I'm very just some what we would who we have
criticized on this show quite a bit, just for the
exactly with no names please.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
All right, that's why they're going nameless. That's exactly no names.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
That's exactly what criticize them profusely in the past. So yeah,
no names.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
Please, deservedly so like they then, by.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
The way, maybe you know, we might have we might
have left meat on the bone, But that's okay because
we know that they'll, you know, whether Trump wins or loses,
we know that these people will say something stupid again
in the future.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
And we'll have to go and we'll have to go
there again.

Speaker 6 (25:59):
But what I'm interested to see, what I'm interested to
see is what does Elon Musk group truly look like?
Now if you think about this guy putting this side
and he he says and does a lot of stuff
I don't agree with, yep, but he's still a genius, right,

(26:20):
He's still a genius, successful, one.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
Of the richest, he is, the richest man on earth.

Speaker 6 (26:27):
Is what does it look like when that guy builds
a political organization?

Speaker 4 (26:33):
Yep, that's what we're gonna find out.

Speaker 6 (26:35):
If we if if that guy, if his group works,
did you gonna see a whole bunch of voters that
nobody expected to be voting?

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Vote? And I think you but I think this is
but this is the part that I think people have
underestimated and I think it's a miscalculation. With the Harris campaign,
was they I think that Trump is going to do
better with low propensity voters because of that because because

(27:16):
and you know, people may not like this, but like,
he owns Twitter now, so this isn't like And I
think you need to be careful with this because of
you know, it's an election because Twitter is so big,
but he owns it now. So there's that. But then
not only that, Trump's relationship with Elon opened up a

(27:38):
relationship with Joe Rogan. I know people have criticisms about Rogan,
but that is the largest new media platform in the
world that is going to happen.

Speaker 6 (27:49):
Hold on, hold on, I want to pause you real
quick because I want to ask you something, because I
want you to expand on this for people who may
not who may not be aware, because you're aware of this.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
You're aware of this world. You're aware of this environment.

Speaker 6 (28:03):
And by being what you're newly thirty right, yep, you're
in the target. You're in the target demographic as an
under under four I am too, but you're even closer
as a under forty forty and under year.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
Old black man. You're part of the target. You're part
of their target audience.

Speaker 6 (28:20):
How significant is it that having that Elon must support,
that RFK support going on Joe Rogan and now JD
went on Joe Rogan, how significant is that for men period, black, white, whatever,
men period under forty and under.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
How significant is that huge? It's huge, Especially because she
didn't do it, that's gonna hurt her even more. Not
only does he get the guy in our age demo

(29:03):
really that think like Elon is the greatest, or they
love Joe Rogan and a lot of those guys you
may think they vote, but a lot of times they don't,
so they're reaching a lot of new voters. But outside
of that, she didn't do it, and she had the
opportunity to do it, and I think that's a big miss.

(29:24):
I think we're gonna look back on her not doing
the show and I'll tell you why she didn't in
a minute. But we're gonna look back on that, and
that's gonna be similar to man, Hillary didn't go to
the rusts. Hillary didn't go to the Blue Wall in
the last week before the election, and a lot of
people think that's what sunk her. She didn't do it.
She kind of liked Heelda. I think this is what

(29:48):
this could be the same thing and as it was
in twenty sixteen, because she had the opportunity to do
it too. Rogan said, I wanted her to do it.
However she didn't do it, and he said it's because
she wanted him to fly out to her and he wants.

(30:12):
She only wants. She wanted to strict one hour time limit. Well,
that's kind of like, I'm not the biggest Rogan fan.
I listen sometimes, I don't listen to other times, but
you have to. You have to be aware of it.
It's out there. Everybody knows Rogan is the biggest platform.
So he's not coming to you. You go to him.

(30:32):
Trump did it, Advance did it. Everybody goes to Rogan.
And the beauty of it is it's just long form conversation.
It's basically no commercials. Well there are, there are ads,
but I mean like they don't stop, right, It's not scripted.
It's just a long form conversation. This can go. He's

(30:56):
had ninety minute episodes, two and a half hour episodes.
I mean when he brings on guys like Alex Jones,
who can talk about a minute, you know it's it's
a five hour episode, right, Yeah. Trump was on for
what two and a half hours? Jd Vance almost three hours.
So for her to set those parameters. It looks bad

(31:18):
because it looks like something that a lot of people
have been saying about her for years now, which is well,
if you get her off script, but it feeds. What
it does is it feeds the notion that maybe she's
not really that good of a candidate, because like, how
come she doesn't do a lot of media anyway.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
It also feeds all.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
These fears that people had about her. Yeah, by turning
that down, it also.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
Feeds the notion that she doesn't share about men.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
That too, that too, And you know, I just I
just look and I think I wonder if you're making
similar mistakes and also interpreting the data the way you
want it to be interpreted, which is a big, big
no no in the data community, Like you don't do that, right,

(32:16):
you don't. You don't say, hmm, well, I'm looking at
and I'll just bring it to sports like oh, I'm
you know, this team does X, Y and Z well,
but if they could just do this, this, this, and this,
then we'll win. No, No, you need to just analyze
for what that team does well and how they stack up. Right.

(32:36):
You don't want to, well, if we do this and
then maybe possibly we could read it this way. No,
you're you're gonna make a mistake there and you're gonna
get hurt. And I think she's I think that a
lot of the momentum that she had leading up to
and after the debate, all the money raised. I just

(32:57):
I'm looking at the end of the race here and
I'm like, she's not really running through the tape. Well,
and this could all be moved, right, because you know,
she may come out and do really well on election night,
and you know she could have.

Speaker 6 (33:08):
A great organization or Trump could have a bad organization.
All those things are very possible.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
It just doesn't she's running through the tape to me though,
right the.

Speaker 6 (33:17):
Way that it looks the way that it looks right now.
And and to your other point, the the elon point.
And I think some people discount his importance because he
says some stupid things on social media sometimes and and

(33:38):
kind of behaves in a certain way.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Sometimes it makes me uncomfortable, I'll put it that way.

Speaker 6 (33:45):
You know, I have questions sometimes about some of the
things he says and does. But when I look out
and I don't know if you've noticed this or not,
but in the Cleveland area, I'll start to see more teslas, right,
like more more teslas.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
Than I've normally seen.

Speaker 6 (34:02):
Right, And I'm an I'm a social observer, like I
was trained long time ago. I had a mentor when
I was in junior high who told me to, you know,
always just observe and and you know, be aware, like
look at people, look at surrounded and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
So I'm a social observer.

Speaker 6 (34:20):
And when I see people driving teslas and I see
them get out the car, and especially if it's a dude,
because a lot of times.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
It's a dude.

Speaker 6 (34:30):
Yeah, And I'm looking whether it's a cyber truck because
there's quite a few cyber trucks around here now, are
whether it's a cyber truck or a regular tesla. You
get out, you see them get out the car, and
you're like, every person, every single person, every single male
who owns a Tesla, is a potential who still owns

(34:52):
a tesla because you know, some people, when Elon got
involved in politics, they got so mad they got rid
of their teslas. Right, But some people, like, if you
still own a Tesla as a man, it's.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
A fifty it's at least a fifty to fifty chance
you're a.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Trump supporter fifty Yeah, yeah, at least at.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
Least a fifty to fifty chance.

Speaker 6 (35:13):
Now, think about that, this is a demographic and it
fits in with the Rogan demographic.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
These are not conservatives.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Right and exactly.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
These men are moderate to liberal yep.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
And maybe some of them are libertarian, because when I
listen to Srogan, I kind of get like, oh, he's
more of a libertarian, a libertarian. He's more of a
left leaning libertarian than he is a conservative, right Like,
Rogan is not a traditional conservative at all. In fact,
remember in twenty twenty, there was a push by some people,

(35:53):
some of his listeners to get Trump on, and he
was like, I don't really want to interview that guy, right,
He said that into it, like I'm not interested in
he was not. Rogan is not a traditional conservative guy
like in.

Speaker 6 (36:06):
Most neither is e Elon was Andrew Yang Democrat years
ago exactly.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
And you know it's funny a guy like Van Jones,
who we've also criticized on this show, and if things
go Trump's way, I'm going to criticize him again because
he's going to be on national TV whining and crying
real tears as a grown man about an election. So

(36:34):
I will criticize him again for that. But he said
something really really smart on Bill Maher's show when he said,
you know, democrats kind of messed this up with Elon
and the Joe Rogan by like not being inclusive enough
and pushing a lot of these guys out of their tent.

(36:56):
Like the fact that a guy whose values are like rogue,
who's like, ah, he's not a conservative, he didn't interview
He wouldn't he did not want to interview Trump. That's
but that's how big his platform is that in twenty
twenty he said no to Trump, I don't want you
on my show. The fact that you kind of lost
him when you could have had him because his values

(37:16):
are closer to yours than they are like traditional conservatism sis.
I mean the fact that you lost Elon too, who's
like Elion is like he should probably be a Democrat
and kind of pushed him.

Speaker 6 (37:29):
He was a democrat, he was basically. I saw somebody
on the news today called him the father of basically
the father of evs. Like this is a guy who
was clearly a dude. You lost Robert F. Kennedy, Like,
how do you lose Bobby.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Kennedy because because again, when you allow progressives to run
your party or to move the needles so much, then
you have the thing where it's like billionaires are evil,
and you know, people who believe in masculinity are evil,
and people who.

Speaker 6 (38:09):
Every every every single white person is evil.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
And oh you didn't you had questions about the vaccine,
you're evil and you know, oh you know all these
different labels now all these different people are evil. Well
you got a problem now, right, because he's left. You're
just kicking people out right, the only thing you have
left or you know, women.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
Well, and that's one thing that.

Speaker 6 (38:36):
And they don't even have all women, they just have
a particular type of one. And that's one thing that
Van Jones did say. And they will move on. That's
one thing that Van Jones did say. That you can't
kick people out and.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
They get mad when they leave. Right.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
I thought he was.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
I thought he was.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
I thought he hit the nail in the head. I
was like wow again, you know, well he might cry
either way. Right because if if Harris, well, you know
she's going to be the first Black Asian woman president.
That's gonna be you know, the first time he's probably
gonna be boohoo, crying and all that stuff and embarrass himself.

(39:15):
And if Trump Weinsy's you know, gonna say, oh, people
are afraid to go to breakfast again, right, which I
just come on, you know, he it's gonna be Really
he's ridiculous, But sometimes even the most ridiculous person can
make a whole lot of sense. And he was right.
He was right.

Speaker 6 (39:37):
So all right, Uh, as we put a button on
this thing. We were talking that I were talking earlier
about the about the ads and the and the texts
and all that, the phone calls and all of that. Uh, Robin,
have you been seeing all of these campaign ads?

Speaker 4 (39:56):
Are you sick of these ads? Like everybody else?

Speaker 5 (39:59):
Yeah, it is taking up space of things that I
actually want to see. And it's just like once you
delete one and here comes ten more. It's kind of
like my mama will always say, when you get if
you get gray hairs, don't pull. Once you pull, when
it's gonna be like fifteen. That's that's how it is
with these emails.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
You know. It was funny it went viral too on Facebook.

Speaker 6 (40:25):
There was somebody who was pointing out about the share
of all the Share Brown's ads right, and they was like,
share Brown getting his ad toe up right. And then
there started being some parents that was like this mom
was like I was with my son the other day
and he just said, Mommy, Share Brown, let us down.

Speaker 5 (40:44):
No listen. Let me tell you. My daughter literally walks
around talking about that commercial all the time, and I'm
just like, gosh, like that should not wait for this
to be over with. She'll she'll literally say that commercial
word for word.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
Yo, that's hilario.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Man.

Speaker 6 (41:07):
When I saw it, Oh man, that that was the
funniest thing to me that there were that there are
kids because of course, you know a lot of these
campaigns smartly, I might add advertise on YouTube, and so
when you're going to YouTube trying to watch something or.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
Whatever, Shared Brown, let us die.

Speaker 6 (41:32):
Yo.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
Dad like like she asked me questions too, and I'm like, man, like, no,
this is not the topic, girl, this is not the topic.

Speaker 6 (41:45):
But I have to I'm going to pull up right now.
As a matter of fact, we're going to go to
break and I'm gonna pull up some of the comments
that people were making because I have to read they're hilarious.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
Because the fact that the fact that you're doing.

Speaker 9 (42:01):
Remember to add to it is the perfect exay, like
people been talking about that, like the kids been recyling.
So we're gonna we're gonna take a break and when
we come back, I'm gonna read some of this stuff
and then we're gonna do tea time.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
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Speaker 3 (42:21):
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Speaker 4 (42:32):
Welcome Back, walcome Back and listening to the Outlaws. So
I fin.

Speaker 6 (42:36):
I went back and found the original post and it
was posted on September twenty seven. I'll tell you how
many shares it tad in a minute. But the comment was,
these commercials be tearing shared Brown's ass, and then people
started adding a then commentary, somebody said, Sharon Brown thinks

(42:58):
everything is funny. My head whipped around so fast the shade.
Somebody else said they talking about the men and women's
locker rooms and all of that.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Then, uh, there's so many of.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
Them, There's so many of these, there's so many of
these coming.

Speaker 6 (43:17):
Somebody talked about how really beat cooking each other? They
so rich they beef on commercials not Twitter. My son
who is ten asked me, and I quote, I swear
to God, Mama, is sherrif Brown good or bad?

Speaker 4 (43:33):
Because he's letting illegal criminals in the country.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Oh lord, she said, she I.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
Think about Robin when I see when I read this.

Speaker 6 (43:44):
The mother said, they really did ask running them commercials
on YouTube and got my kids asking me questions.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
I don't want to answer.

Speaker 5 (43:51):
Man, felt fast.

Speaker 6 (43:58):
Like, I just be like girl, when you know, that's
how you know that an ad is effective.

Speaker 10 (44:09):
But that is how you know that it's working because
when it goes so far, but it goes so far,
that's where you know that's an effective ass.

Speaker 4 (44:25):
Somebody said.

Speaker 6 (44:26):
My six year old son said, Sharon Brown not protecting Ohio.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
Yo.

Speaker 6 (44:41):
Yeah, that is wild.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
Oh wow, somebody said, na gonna cap.

Speaker 6 (44:51):
They asked my poor baby who the president was, and
she said, proud asf shared Brown.

Speaker 5 (44:59):
No, oh lie, that's what Naomi thought you at first.
I'm like, girl, Now she say, is he running for president? No?

Speaker 4 (45:09):
No, girl, that mother said. She said.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
I laughed so hard.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
I'm like, why did why you say him? She like
he and the TV every day. No, that is so crazy.
That is so crazy.

Speaker 6 (45:33):
Like that's that's how if Sharon Brown loses, those ads are.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
Why, oh yeah, I've seen more. And this is just
because I have the TV on all the time with sports.
I've seen more Senate ads in Ohio then I have
presidential ads.

Speaker 6 (45:57):
So oh yeah, because we're not competitive in the presidential
no more. Trump's gonna win Ohio by like eight to
ten points.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
So they ain't even spending no money over here no more.
But the Senate rais is competitive.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
And that's you know, that's always a telltale sign as
to what a campaign actually believes, right, Oh, you know,
Trump doing a rally in Virginia, regardless of what the
polls say, lets me makes me think that they think
they have a shot there, which to me should be

(46:29):
a little bit alarming for the Hairs campaign. Now, just
interpreting everything that we see, I would be stunned if
she did not win Virginia. But the fact that they're
going there and spending money there is at least just
what they think. Yeah, it's just interesting that they think
that that's on the table, which to me is like,
hm an out And if she can't carry Virginia, you know,

(46:55):
you know, I I don't know, man, Like we can
call it a night. If she's not going to carry it, Virginia.
You know, and the same thing. I guess you could
say the same thing for you know, well she had
a rally in Texas. Well, that was in Houston, and
they you know, I believe that that was more so
just for the Beyonce endorsement, right that, I really believe

(47:15):
that that I you know, we've been here, We've been
hearing about this for you know, the last four cycles
that like, oh were turning Texas blue. You know, I'll
believe it when I see it, right, agree, in Texas
multiple times, Like I let me tell you something. There
are a lot of guns and a lot of a
lot of houses in Texas, right, Like, I will believe

(47:37):
that when when I see it. I think that was
so for the Beyonce endorsement. But well, you know, Virginia,
I don't think he's gonna win it, But the fact
that he thinks it's at least like that he has
a shot at winning it tells me like, hmm, this
is like I said, I just don't think she's running
through the tape. I don't think she's finishing strong here.

Speaker 6 (48:01):
No oh no, I don't want I don't need to
go off off topic, but I'm still reading these. I
had to read the other one. This mother said, even
my kids been telling me, don't vote for share Brown.
He's a bad person. He lets bad people on the
streets and doesn't protect Ohio. Oh then somebody tags Sharing Brown,

(48:27):
said Sharon Brown, fight.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Back, bro Like, how much is how much is he
spends it?

Speaker 4 (48:42):
How much is brain? I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (48:45):
It's in the millions, Like I think they dropped like
at least thirty forty million on on shared head.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Wow, yeah he's got a Yeah if he wins this
when he bought it, Yeah, when it's because he brought it, right,
these ads, I mean, because it's you know, it's every
every single time you watch TV, it's a commercial and
it's a commercial break. One of those five commercials is
gonna be something about.

Speaker 5 (49:18):
Man.

Speaker 6 (49:19):
Man they've been tearing him for. Somebody else said, and
I don't even know about politics.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
I'm like, damn, what did guy do?

Speaker 3 (49:26):
Yeah, every every commercial break, anytime you open up YouTube,
they're on Facebook, they're on Instagram. Like I mean, I
was scrolling through Instagram stories and you know how any
there's a there'll be a break. So like you're watching
one person's story and then before you get to the

(49:46):
next person story, it's an ad. It was a it
was a Bernie Moreno Sharon Brown transgender ad. And I
was like, good lord, this is everywhere.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
Man.

Speaker 6 (49:57):
When I watched the Calves, when I watched the cave As,
every night, every night they playing, you're going to see
a pro shared brown ad a bunch of anti shit.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
And it's really like it's really about like four to
one too. It's almost like you know, oh, there's hey,
there's a positive share of brown ad. Then it's Bernie,
Bernie Bernie. Like somebody said, man for share a fight back, right,
you gotta fight back, man.

Speaker 6 (50:31):
Man, I never seen I have never seen a digital ass.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
Whooping like that before because you know the difference.

Speaker 6 (50:41):
And here's the difference, because campaigns are getting smarter now.
They're not just advertising on broadcast television. They're advertising on YouTube,
they're advertising on podcasts, they're advertising on all of these
different places. So now, like you, if you didn't watch

(51:02):
local news like here in Cleveland three five eight, nineteen
forty three, you wouldn't see those commercials. But now they're everywhere.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
They're everywhere, and it's like.

Speaker 6 (51:20):
It's really it's making it's making an impact. This one
mother again said her daughter said, they said Sharon Brown.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
Can't handle Ohio. Mom.

Speaker 6 (51:34):
Then somebody else said, I'm almost convinced I should register
to vote, just not to.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
Vote with Brown.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Yeah, they beaten Sharon bron I wonder, so realistically, if
you had to put a percentage on it, we would
have to say Share Brown is a favorite. But realistically,
what chance do you get Burnie to win if you
had to put it in a percentage now?

Speaker 6 (51:59):
Yeah, yeah, forty five, maybe even a little more.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Wow, that's crazy because you know, if we would have
talked back in August, it had been way lower.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
Oh, I thought he had no chance. I thought he
had no chance.

Speaker 6 (52:15):
But the way that they've been and then when, and
to be honest with you, when I first saw this,
and this is before the posts start changing.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
When I first saw this post and this was in black,
This was.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
In black Facebook.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (52:32):
When I first saw that trending, that's when I was like, oh,
share got a problem, because it meant those ads were penetrated,
that they had went so much into the consciousness of
the state that now you're becoming a joke because of

(52:55):
the way that you're being attacked. That's dangerous for a candidate,
extremely dangerous because once people think you a joke that
depresses your own vote, that'll.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
Make other people vote against you, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (53:09):
Like, it's when I saw that and a lot of
these comments are hilarious, but when I saw that thing
go viral like that, that.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
Was when I was like, he got a problem. Yeah,
And now you see the polls.

Speaker 6 (53:25):
He went from being up eight or nine to some
polls he's up one.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
Some poles have Burnie up one or two.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Yeah. And this is a good test case again for
people who don't believe in tickets splitting. Like normally tickets
splitting to that degree is not a thing, but again
it is here, right, will be in other Senate races
in swing states. So just because the candidate that you

(53:53):
want to win the presidency is winning by a decent
margin in certain polls does not mean that or does
not mean that, or I'm sorry. When you see a
swing race in a Senate poll and you see, oh,
this swing state Senate race is very lopsided, that does

(54:13):
not mean that that swing state is going to go
in favor of the presidential candidate that you are hoping for,
because we are more polarized than ever, so ticket splitting
is a bigger deal than it ever has been. So
that's also just a warning for people who want to
interpret data the way that they want to interpret it

(54:33):
and not the way that it should be interpreted.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
Right, exactly.

Speaker 6 (54:38):
So one more comment and then we'll go to tea town,
because I think this is a very good point that
we should all think about. Somebody said, it's no way
that we are the new adults, because why is this
so funny and why are we so chaltihed.

Speaker 5 (55:00):
We don't take not serious anymore?

Speaker 6 (55:02):
Oh my god man, because them y'all know, if the listeners,
if you're not in Ohio, we can't describe it to you.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
The way that these ads have been in this Senate
race absurd. It is absurd to the point where, like
Robin said, her daughter is reciting the ads word for work.

Speaker 6 (55:31):
That is the funniest thing in the world to be
Robin until Tart remembers.

Speaker 5 (55:37):
The com can always count on her.

Speaker 6 (55:39):
I guess just like that is just as somebody who
has worked who's worked in politics before, that is like amazing.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
Like that's when you know, number one.

Speaker 6 (55:52):
They got good ads and number two they are busting
him upside the head for it to be like penetrating
like that. So don't be surprised if Shared loses.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
I would not be surprised. I expect Trump to win
the state by like eight or more.

Speaker 6 (56:11):
Don't be surprised if if Bernie wins by like one
or two.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
Wo yep, I would not be surprised.

Speaker 6 (56:19):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Now you asked me earlier if I had any bets,
you could make a lot of money. You can make
a lot of money betting Bernie Moreno, because he's still
a pretty sizable underdog.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
Is that right?

Speaker 6 (56:33):
Yeah, well, I appreciate you doing that.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
It's not underdog even though it has tightened. Like I
said in August. The fact that in August, really even
through September, the conversation would have been ridiculous, you know
what I mean, that would have been Shared's not gonna
not lose this race. The fact that now it's even
a conversation is again just it just makes you wonder

(57:01):
about certain things.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
Right all right? On that note, you know what we'll.

Speaker 6 (57:09):
Do this, We'll take a break because I want to
make sure, it's a clean break and give Rapping all
the time she need for all the hot tea. So
let's take a break and we'll come right back and
we'll do tea time. Will Row stay tuned. You're listening
to the Outlaws.

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Speaker 5 (57:48):
All right, So I actually got a few things for y'all.
Let me go ahead and bring this up. So first
and foremost, so you know, how the people are saying
is that Kat Williams started this year and he opened
the portal to all the bs and it has definitely

(58:13):
been something man, So I will definitely start with a
few of them. So I don't know if you guys saw,
I just saw the video on Twitter slash X. I
don't think it would be something that I would allow
my daughter to wear. But I also don't think it

(58:34):
was something that they should have made something where it
went viral. Now, so the users on X have reacted
to dj Envy's eight year old daughter her costume. She
was dressed as Little Kim for Halloween. Now, I mean

(58:56):
I seen the video. I don't think it was particularly
anything to be like, oh my gosh, why would he
blah blah blah, like it's not like that with something.
I'm sure that little girl was not going outside trick
or treat like that. I mean, I don't know. I
don't know personally. So that's one thing that I just

(59:16):
wanted to touch up on. I just I had to
bring my opinion upon that. Now, the next thing that
I do have is Meg thee Stallion, So we all
know what happened. I've talked about this before, what happened
between her Tory Lanez. Tory Lanez ended up being incarcerated

(59:41):
for allegedly shooting her in the foot, et cetera, et cetera. Now,
there is a video that is trending where Meg thee
Stallion came out and said that she lied to Gail
King about saying that she did not sleep with Tory
Lanees at all, she didn't have any relations with him
in that department. That she turns around in this most

(01:00:04):
recent video saying that yeah, I lied to.

Speaker 6 (01:00:07):
Gail King, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:00:08):
I didn't know if sheeple gonna ask me that question, Like,
so she was like, I might have slept with him
once or twice on drunken nights. And so now a
lot of people are saying, like, Okay, so if you
lied about that, what else did you lie about?

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Question?

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
Very very fair question. That's a fair question.

Speaker 6 (01:00:32):
I want to before I go to that, I want
to quickly address the Djamvy thing.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
First.

Speaker 6 (01:00:39):
I saw that picture. I didn't like it because and
I understand why people kind of feel some type of
way about it, because I think anything that even kind
of looks or hints like like it's a sexualization of
a child, you know what I mean, makes people very uncomfortable.

(01:01:02):
I know me as a man, if I had a daughter,
if I had a daughter, she would never ever, ever,
ever ever.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Dressed like that at that age ever ever, ever, ever,
ever ever. That would never happen. I mean at the
same time, I mean, that's that's his child. And nay,
they raised they they raise their kid how they won't.
But I just know for me that no, that wouldn't happen. Dante,

(01:01:32):
did you see that picture? I did? What's your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
Yeah, I just it's their child. They I'm not in
the business of, you know, telling people how to parent
their children, me personally. You know, Halloween is cute for
the kids and all that type of stuff. You know,
they're how old is she eight? Yeah, as an eight
year old, it's like, why not be a princess or

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or something like that. Little Kim is a that's just
again I would yeah, I don't think I would want
my eight year old daughter to be Little Kim for
for Halloween. But that's just you know, if they're comfortable
with it, you know, that's their child. They need to
you know, they parent how they parents. So you know,

(01:02:21):
I'm not criticizing or endorsing because that you know, like
I said, that's that's their child, right and if they're
comfortable with it, that's fine. Especially you know, putting it
on the internet too is also you know that it
may it would make comfortable with My daughter said I
want to be Little Kim. I'd be like, I don't know, honey,
let's you know, let's uh yeah be on Halloween. You know,

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but you don't want to be Cinderella. We just watched
that Pocones movie.

Speaker 4 (01:02:56):
Like her.

Speaker 6 (01:03:01):
So okay, So moving to the next one, the Megdae
Stallion thing.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
Dante.

Speaker 6 (01:03:09):
I'll go right back to you, man, what do you
think about that?

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
That's interesting. I didn't realize that she said she lied
about having sex with Tori. I thought that, you know,
I kind of thought that that was a little preposterous
when she first said it to Gail. I didn't know
if he came back and said that she lied about it. Yeah,
that's probably not a good idea to do that because
people were already questioning her story right or wrong. I

(01:03:35):
didn't follow that one too closely, but yeah, I mean,
that's just I just don't think for her sake, it's
best to diminish any credibility, because what I do remember
is just people were questioning whether it happened or not
or you know, all that back then when it was happening.
So I just think trying to come out and say

(01:03:56):
you lie, like, I'm sure the volume on that is
going to come up. It's going to turn up. Did
is Tory Lanes? Like it's his legal team doing something
about that or trying to maybe get the case reopen,
Like are they doing anything about that? Or no?

Speaker 5 (01:04:13):
So I have not looked into it any further as
far as that, but I do know as of before
that video for her saying that that Tory was actually
appealing his court hearing. He was appealing it so he
can obviously fight to get out and when he was
looking for it, and that there was evidence, I guess,

(01:04:34):
the evidence of somehow magically got lost. And then suddenly
she comes out with this video not long like a
few days after that, and so it's kind of that's
kind of enough right there. If they did, if the
legal team did decide to do anything, I feel like

(01:04:55):
that video of her might actually.

Speaker 4 (01:04:59):
Bounce back. Yeah, yeah, it very well could. And I
know that they were.

Speaker 6 (01:05:05):
They were appealing anyway, because there is some questions, as
y'all know, there is some questions about whether he was
the one who actually shot her or the friend.

Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
So oh, so it was he.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
It could have been her friend that shot her.

Speaker 5 (01:05:20):
It was listen, come on, both the girls was sleeping
with the man. Okay, you know, so the girls was fighting.
The girls was fighting allegedly, this is how it went.
Tory went to grab the gun. It happened to be
in his hand when everything went down. That's why Tory
is sitting in there, not for shooting Meg Sory is

(01:05:40):
sitting in there because he was I don't know exactly,
but I'm I'm thinking that if I'm read it correctly,
is that he was on parole or probation or something
like that and he was not supposed to have any
fire on an. Yeah, that is why he is sitting
in there.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
More so you gotta sit down no matter what did
because it he violated.

Speaker 5 (01:06:03):
Just for taking the gun from Kelsey's hand Yep.

Speaker 6 (01:06:09):
Yeah, well they'll they'll they'll continue to appeal and work
that out and we'll see what happens.

Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
You got anything else, Robin, Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:06:18):
So where did that be? There was one thing that
I did see, so I know the whole Young Thug.
You know how that trial has been like five million years,
so that I think they finally came to something. So

(01:06:44):
from what I was seeing, I was a little confused
on it. So I don't know how. I don't know
really quite what is really going on, but I do
know that the trial Young Thug pleads to six counts
in the whitl reco case. The state recommends sentencing of
twenty five years in prison. In twenty years in probation.

(01:07:07):
But then right after I seen that Young Doug's full
release conditions are banned from the Metro Atlanta for ten
years except for family weddings, funerals, graduations, or serious illness.
Must give four annual anti gang and gun presentations concerts
in the Metro Atlanta. He's allowed to travel for work,

(01:07:29):
no contact with the gang members or defendants except his
brother or Gunna, and he's forbidden from promoting gang related
content in any form.

Speaker 6 (01:07:39):
Yeah, I've been seeing people say. I'm just seeing people
say that he's about to start doing gospel rap.

Speaker 5 (01:07:44):
Now, gotta, I did see something about that.

Speaker 6 (01:07:51):
That's a I mean, because what is his lawyer? What
did his lawyers say Thug stood for truly humbled under
God or something like that.

Speaker 5 (01:08:06):
I remember that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
Yeah, so basically Thug gets to go home.

Speaker 6 (01:08:13):
I think part of this was just this case was
a disaster from the very beginning for people who don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
Who may be listening, who listened.

Speaker 6 (01:08:24):
To us for the political stuff, and we're gonna tie
this in here. The prosecutor in that case was Fannie
willis the same one who indicted Trump in Atlanta. This
case was more problematic than that case. And I think
it got to a point it's been like two years,

(01:08:45):
little over two years, and I think it got to
a point where they were just like, the court was
just like, let's get rid of this thing. And so
they worked out a situation where he pleaded guilty. The
prosecution was still gonna try to lock him up, but
the judge was having none of that. So they put
him on probation for twenty years. So that is significant

(01:09:09):
probation for twenty years.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
That's a long that's a long damn time is.

Speaker 6 (01:09:15):
But also I think I think it helped them say
phase two because and we saw this with Fannie Willis
like because.

Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
She charged Trump with a reco case too.

Speaker 6 (01:09:27):
Trump and his and his associates over over the twenty
twenty elections, Fani was getting.

Speaker 4 (01:09:32):
A little loose with the with the with the RICO cases.

Speaker 6 (01:09:37):
And I do think that they're starting to become a
little bit of a backlash to over using RICO because
when you use for people who don't understand, when you
use a RICO case, a RICO is racketeer, influence and
corrupt organizations. That's saying your entire organization is a criminal organization.

(01:09:57):
It's the same the RICO is what the federal government
used to essentially take down the mafia. That's how significant
a rico case is. So when you start using it,
when you start using it a little more freely than

(01:10:19):
you should, that's when it becomes a little problematic. And
I think this case, the Young Thud case, was such
a disaster. I think this was the best way that
they were able to come to a conclusion.

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
Dantell your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
I think they're probably just waiting on him to violate
the terms of his probation. That's why I think this
is a way for them to sort of say face
because twenty years probation, that's a long time and unless
he's willing to keep his nose clean, and I mean
that literally and figure natively, that is a long time

(01:11:05):
for a guy who is an addict, or at least
was an addict. Right. We saw the one time where
he in the courtroom was being past some sort of
white substance because he has a drug problem. So like,
they can violate you for anything, and if they violate you,

(01:11:28):
you do all those years immediately. So I hope for
his sake that he's basically ready to be good and
to keep himself out of trouble, because if he's not,
he's gone. That's a long time to be on probation. Now,
I mean, of course you take probation and you try

(01:11:49):
to do the right thing versus you know, twenty five
years in prison. Right if given the option of what
to do the rest of your life on probation or
do ten minutes in prison, you just depending on where
you are, Like I would never choose to go to prison,
So I understand it. But that's a long time for
somebody if they're not, you know, if they haven't always been,

(01:12:13):
you know, on the right side of things, right, Because
I don't know if they can violate you from marijuana,
but you know they definitely can for you know, failing
a drug test for something you know, more substantial or
right probation. Right. We just talked about it with Tory Lanes, right,
Like if you're in the car with somebody who has
a gun, or if you know, you're not even supposed

(01:12:33):
to have any contact with the police officer, right. So,
Like I've heard stories from people who are like, yeah,
they were on probation. Police officer Game one ticket and
said they were resisting arrests and they got violated, right,
so like probate. Probation is a serious thing, like you
really got to keep your nose clean. So for his sake,

(01:12:53):
I hope he does.

Speaker 6 (01:12:55):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, anything else, miss o'mellan, Yes, I
actually have one thing, uh, just to add to that
whole list of Kat Williams, you know, putting the razzle.

Speaker 5 (01:13:07):
Dazzle of the years, how he set the tone. So Dirk,
I don't know if you guys have seen that. Dirk
was arrested on a murder for higher charges in connection
with the attempted murder of Bondo Rondo in twenty twenty two.

Speaker 4 (01:13:26):
So I saw that, and okay, let me.

Speaker 6 (01:13:32):
I'm trying to choose my words carefully here because I'm
not trying to be bombastic. But I don't understand why
people who come from our environments make it and still

(01:13:56):
want to do street ish. I don't don't understand. I
thought the entire point of you becoming successful and rich
and famous was to get.

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
Away from that.

Speaker 6 (01:14:14):
I don't understand why we have seen it repeatedly, and
we've always there's always been rappers that have been like this,
but it's like an epidemic with the new ones I
don't understand why people who come from bad environments make

(01:14:38):
it out of those environments and behave the exact same
and behave the exact same way that you did in
those environments.

Speaker 4 (01:14:50):
I don't get it. Dont tell your folks.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
Yeah, I'm tired of that subculture, to be honest with you,
I'm tired of that whole subculture of drill rap, gangster rap.
Like I'm tired of it, Like the they it's annoying
to see them on TV all the time. Like I
just I'm done with him, right, And it's a you know,

(01:15:14):
at at some point we need to I'm trying to
truse my words carefully, but like at some point we're
gonna have to acknowledge, like this ain't beneficial for the community,
that that subculture is not beneficial for the community, and

(01:15:36):
you know, it's time for them, it's times time for
them to go. That's so that's all I'm gonna say. So,
you know, I don't know the what Dirk's case is.
I know it's it's federal and I know they caught
him trying to lead the country, So I'm guessing that
it's probably pretty serious, and I'm guessing that he probably
don't think he got a great chance of being all right.

(01:15:58):
So because the the the prosecutor said that they knew
that he booked a flight to Switzerland, he had a
flight book to Dubai, and a flight book to Italy,
and they caught him in Florida, trin lad the country.
So guessing that he knew that he was in some trouble,
and with it being federal, you got it less. You

(01:16:19):
know this. This is not a state of Illinois or
state of California. You know this. These are federal charges.
He was picked up by US marshalls. This is very serious.
The fan don't usually miss So I'm just you know,
these guys I failed to see the benefit that that

(01:16:39):
subculture brings. That's all I'm gonna say.

Speaker 6 (01:16:43):
Well, and the last thing I'll add to that is,
you know when I was when I first became a
hip hop fan, when I was listening, like first became
a fan, you know, I listened to what they called
gangster at but what I was listening to, what we

(01:17:04):
grew up with, is very different than some of the
stuff that's popular now.

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
One of the big differences.

Speaker 6 (01:17:13):
Is a lot of the rappers we listened to we're
talking about stuff that they used to do. They weren't
talking about stuff that they are still actively doing. Like, hey,
I got this song about this guy that I just
shot last week.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
Telling on themselves for sure, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:17:33):
And I just don't under Like I said earlier, I
just don't understand.

Speaker 6 (01:17:40):
The point in making because as it is so difficult,
as the two of you know, and as everybody listening knows,
who's ever come from where we come from, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:17:53):
So difficult to make it out. It's so difficult to
make it out. And you make it out and then
you go right back.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
These guys don't even make it out. They get money
and continue to finance, and the only thing that that
money does is it continues to finance that lifestyle. That's
all they do. They even they they still And the
problem that I have is that like we got regular
people believe in that like glorifying this stuff, like oh man,
I can't believe somebody was snitching, Like y'all got it

(01:18:27):
so backwards, like there is no benefit that comes from
this subculture. That we don't benefit at all from any
of this stuff, Like it it's time, like go ahead
by telling somebody the other day. It's like, no, they
can pull a plug on a lot of these rappers.
I'm about I'm done with it.

Speaker 6 (01:18:44):
And the thing that concerns me, like if you remember,
if y'all remember, like when when Tupac got killed, it
was a big deal. When Biggy got killed, it was
a big deal.

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
I don't I can't.

Speaker 6 (01:18:58):
Recall how many rappers have gotten killed since the two
of y'all joined this show.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
It's like every year now.

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
And there's something very, very wrong. And I'm not one
of those people that's.

Speaker 6 (01:19:13):
Like, y'all got to stop listening to that hippie hopp
and listening to Johnny Maptist.

Speaker 4 (01:19:17):
I'm not that guy. I'm not that guy.

Speaker 6 (01:19:21):
But there's something wrong with and I'm glad, Like Dante specified,
we're not.

Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
Talking about the culture. You're talking about a subculture of
a culture that's something very different.

Speaker 6 (01:19:37):
There is an issue with this particular subculture, and nobody
wants to touch it because it can be dangerous to
address it. I've seen people in that subculture threaten folks, you.

Speaker 4 (01:19:56):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:19:56):
So nobody really wants to touch it. But there's a
there's a problem. There's a problem and I am concerned.

Speaker 4 (01:20:05):
I'm tired. I am so so tired of seeing young
talented people get killed.

Speaker 6 (01:20:12):
I'm so so tired of seeing young talented people.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
Get locked up, get shot.

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
I'm so so tired of it.

Speaker 6 (01:20:20):
And and this, this is a significant issue. And you know,
I'm I do agree with Dante. I'm probably not gonna
go as far as he did, but I do agree
with Dante that it's time for us to have some
family conversations about some of this stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
Yep. And I'll just say that this is not black culture,
like you know, that is not but that drill rap whatever,
that isn't true. That is not black culture. No, that
is a subculture that is no different than what the
Mafia was to Italians. That is the mafia organized prime
is not quote Italian culture. Right at the height of

(01:21:01):
the Mafia, there was probably like what seven thousand made
men in America. That's Italian Americans. This is not Black Americans.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
Know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
This is a subculture, and it's quite honestly, it's toxic
and it's not beneficial, and there is I don't really,
like I said, I don't see the I don't see
the benefit of this culture. So I'm Okay, if we
pull the plug on it, let's do it's time.

Speaker 4 (01:21:29):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
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Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
All right, Well, as we've been talking on the show,
we have an election coming up here in what a
couple of days, and both sides over the past week
have decided to do stuff that in normal election cycles
would end their campaign. But neither campaign can get out

(01:23:47):
of their own way. So to start on Sunday at
Madison Square Gardens. I'm sure everybody knows the Trump campaign
decided to hold a rally at MSG and it would
have been fine if not for a roast comedian, Tommy Heinkcliff,
making a bunch of black jokes and jokes about Puerto

(01:24:09):
Rico that like make you feel like, oh, this is
very racist. And with the tenor around, you know, everybody
already being uneasy about the Trump campaign a lot of times,
you know, this doesn't help. Let's just to put just
to put it mildly, that didn't help, right, especially this

(01:24:30):
stuff about Puerto Ricans when Trump is trying to make
headway with Spanish speaking voters, so absolutely shot himself in
the foot. I don't know why the Trump campaign would
allow a roast comedian to bring him out, because that's

(01:24:51):
what Tommy heink Cliff does. He's going to make jokes
that make people uncomfortable. You know, when you're a little
more than a week away from a presidential election. You
probably want to get away from that. At least I would,
if you know, if I were the Trump campaign, I
would want to get away from that. But they let
him bring him out, and Tommy just did what he did,

(01:25:12):
like that's what he does. He did the Tom Brady
Rose It was inappropriate. He made some off color jokes
about Kevin Hart being short, slave slave jokes, cotton picking Joe,
you know, like that's what a roast comedian does. They
are there to make everybody uncomfortable, and he did, and

(01:25:33):
maybe it hurt Trump, maybe it didn't. We'll find out.
But shortly after, President Biden decided, oh, I'm gonna try
and one up them by basically calling all Trump supporters garbage. Now,

(01:25:54):
I've seen a lot of people say that this is
gonna be akin to Hillary saying Trumps were deplorable. I
don't know. We'll find again, we'll find out how much
any of this stuff matters in a few days. But yeah,
President Biden went out and said, uh, and he was
some people are going to say, well, he was kind

(01:26:15):
of stumbling over his words a little bit, but it
was very clear that he said Trump supporters are garbage.
I mean that's probably like between seventy eight to eighty
two million people and maybe half the half the country.
So I don't know what either side is doing. I
think for Biden, it's just funny to me because it

(01:26:39):
seems like every time he opens his mouth it does
do at least some bit of damage to the Harris campaign,
and it just you know, she's trying to distance herself
from his administration slyly right. She wants to take the
positives from his administration but distance herself from all the bad.

(01:27:01):
And every time Biden opens his mouth, he essentially comes
out and says, no, we've been tied at the hip
the whole time. No no, no, no, no, no no no.
She's been with me every step of the way. She's
been in on every decision making process. And that's kind
of what the Trump campaign is trying to lean into, like, hey,
you didn't like the Biden administration, well you wouldn't like
President Harris because she's been right there and Joe Biden

(01:27:24):
continues to essentially agree with him. So him coming out
saying that Trump supporters are garbage kind of makes me
raise an eyebrow a little bit, just because thinking, are
you maybe you're maybe you are old and you are
sundowning and you are losing it a little bit, But
are you kind of trying to sabotage her? I don't know,

(01:27:49):
it just it feels that way when I watch when
I watch him open his mouth and essentially hurt her
at every turn. So I don't know, but we'll see
Tuesday how much any of this has an impact.

Speaker 4 (01:28:03):
Yeah, we will.

Speaker 6 (01:28:05):
I also wonder because I'm like, what he did was
so stupid that it's hard to.

Speaker 4 (01:28:13):
Doubt that it was deliberate, you know what I mean, Like,
what are you doing? Yeah, the whole week was dumb.

Speaker 6 (01:28:22):
Having an insult comic at your closing argument event was
just stupid. And then like, you know, I said this
on social media and people were.

Speaker 4 (01:28:35):
Like, oh, well, you know that's that's because the left
is going to use and.

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
Blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 6 (01:28:40):
And I'm like, if you're so concerned about the left
taking things out of context and all of that, stop
giving people ammunition to do that. Yep, Like, you shouldn't
have an insult comic. Whoever did that should be fired.
They should have got fired from the campaign. That's number
one and the only thing, And of course the Harris campaign.

Speaker 4 (01:29:06):
Who feel they you can always.

Speaker 6 (01:29:09):
Tell what a campaign believes by how they're behaving. They're
behaving like they're losing, so they're grabbing to they're grabbing
anything to try to change the trajectory of the race.
And so when you did that, it gave them something
to hold on to, and they made that be in the.

Speaker 4 (01:29:31):
News cycle for two days. The only thing that saved.

Speaker 6 (01:29:36):
The Trump campaign from being completely swapped by that narrative
is the stupidity of Joe Biden's come when Joe Biden
called because to me an insult comic sat calling Puerto
Rico garbage, which I disagreed with and said publicly multiple
times it was stupid.

Speaker 4 (01:29:57):
He shouldn't have been there in the first place. But
I I think the.

Speaker 6 (01:30:00):
President of the United States calling half of the country
garbage is a little worse. And that's so he's at
the same time, by the way that Kamala was delivering
her closing argument speech talking about how divisive Trump is
and how she's going to unify the country. So at

(01:30:21):
the same time she's saying she's going to unify the country,
her boss is calling half of the country garbage.

Speaker 4 (01:30:29):
And stepped over her whole message.

Speaker 3 (01:30:32):
And to her credit, she did do about as well
ash as could be to get away from those comments.

Speaker 4 (01:30:41):
She did do.

Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
I mean, it's only but so much you can do
to get away from those comments.

Speaker 4 (01:30:46):
But she gets out.

Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
About as good a job as one could get away from, right,
especially when you know the President is continuing to say
that they talked talk all the time, they're in agreement.
They you know, everything they everything is collaborative, you know,
I seek her opinion right that she has. She has
done about as good as you can do to get

(01:31:10):
away from from from him on this stuff. But but yeah,
I mean, for him to do that, it's just I mean,
it's it's remarkable. It it's hard to think that he
would be able to do something like that unintentionally.

Speaker 4 (01:31:29):
Exactly exactly. So, like you said, we'll see how much
how much of an impact this stuff has. But both
sides have.

Speaker 6 (01:31:38):
A tendency to shoot themselves in the foot and then
complain that their at their feet, So we'll so we'll
see what happens.

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