October 17, 2025 • 62 mins
On today's episode, the team addresses the viral story of a horrific attack on a 5 year old girl by an 8, 9, and 10 year old.
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Welcome to the Outlaws.
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This is Darby Old Kington Merrow alongside Robin O'Malley. Dante
Bry is not in today, but we have it on
good authority.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
That he will be back soon.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
And if he's not, Robin is going to go hunt
him down wherever he's at and drag him to make
sure that he comes back on this show. So she
will be hunting him down at some point.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
But yes, we have it on the good on good authority,
and will.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
We have it on good authority that Dante will be
back shortly.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
But in the meantime, miss O'Malley, how are you?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
I am good? I'm good. I'm trying to figure out
my new phone, Darby. O. I have a new phone,
and I feel like, you know, one of those elderly
people that's trying to learn technology. So I got that
new seventeen and I'm coming from like an S which
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is like many many years ago, and that one was
very simple. So this is like too much for me.
And I'm like, wait, how do I work this? I
don't know what I'm doing. I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So, for the record, ladies and gentlemen, Robin has needed
to get a new phone for a very long time.
And it was pretty clear if you all remember a
few weeks ago and when Robin's question went viral her
question to Donovan Mitchell. One of the reasons why we
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had to rely on the cabs footage of the question
and not the footage that we taped ourselves that day
is because Robin was recording it using her phone, and
her phone the screen looked like it had Tourette's like
it was all over the place, bounce down, bouncing, bounces down,
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waving like and it was like her phone will not
allow her to be great.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
It did not. It was not, And I was like
so upset, like, oh my gosh, because like that was
the moment. It was the moment, and my phone was
really hating on me and right then, right then, I
knew that I needed to get my life together.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Understood that she could not thug it out with a
five five.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Plus year old phone anymore.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
And the camera was jumping. Okay, it was jumping. It
was not working for me. Like I'm just like, bruh,
this one, this one's good. Now we're good. We're good, Like,
can we get a run back? Can we run that back?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Like right, let's do it again, right, like, I hold
over my phone works.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Now right now, I got my life together than that,
I'm good.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
You know.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Just it's been living life, you know, just vibing, working,
you know. Yeah, it's not been It's not been bad.
Like you know, I've had I've had worse I've had
I've had days in the past. But yeah, but it's
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not been horrible. It's not been horrible. But I've also,
you know what, I've actually also learned to set boundaries
over the course of the last few months. So really
I've pulled myself from people and now I just be
like I just don't even I don't answer nobody's phone calls,
nobody's I'm just staying on myself. So you know, that's
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why life don't be life and like it usually be
life in boundaries.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
It's okay, it'd be life in but it don't be
life and like it used to be life.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Okay, I'm good. I'm good.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I am working a lot as well. Exhausted, exhausted. The
work that we do, man is like people don't realize
it's it's a lot of work. It's a lot of work.
So exhausted, But I'm good though. I went to the
Double Wards last week in Nashville, which was amazing. Anybody,
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if you don't know what the Dove Awards is, the
Dove Awards is like the Grammys for Christian music, and
so they didn't have just the award show itself, but
they had Dove Week and there were things going on
all through the week. Met incredible people. I met artists,
I met label execs and movie execs and all kinds
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of like management like it was just it was so
many people in the industry that were there, and everybody
was real like welcoming and ready to like have a
conversation with you and all kinds stuff like. It was
just it was incredible. It was it was really incredible.
So I had a really good time.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Nashville.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
This was my first time going to Nashville. Nashville was
was awesome.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
It was awesome. It was just cool to be and
you know.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
They call it music City, so they have all of
these different venues even like regular bars and restaurants you
can go hear music. Like it's just they got like
a music row. Like it was just it was awesome,
Like it was really cool to spend those days. I
spent you know, basically a week, a whole week basically
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in Nashville. And it was also cool to go to Tennessee.
In general, it's my first time not only being in Nashville,
but also in Tennessee. And Tennessee is where my mother's
side of the family is originally from. My great grandparents
are buried buried in Tennessee, and my great grandfather died
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in the nineties. So I'm old enough to remember when
I think I was like six, if I'm not mistaken,
six or seven when my great grandfather passed, and I
was very close to my great grandfather.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
He lived on the.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
He lived on the street the same street as the
church that I was baptized in, and so I would
go to that church and then after the church. I
would go down the street, running down the street screaming
for Paul Paul, going to Paulpau's house.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
So we're very close.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
It was my grandmother's father, and when he passed, it
was one of those things that I was always grateful,
especially more so as I got older for knowing my
great grandfather and having a relationship with my great grandfather,
because that's not something that everybody can say they have,
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and so it was, you know, it was emotional. It
was an emotional moment to be in Tennessee as well,
especially because I learned so much about my great grandfather's
history and my family history.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
So my great grandfather.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
He was raised by his grandfather who was born a slave.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
And when we went to Tennessee after the Devil.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Wards, because my mother went down there with me as well.
After the Double Wards, we drove two hours out to
go to the small town that my family's originally from.
It's called Obien, Tennessee. It's in West Tennessee, and so
we went to see my great grandfather and my great
grandmother's graves. My great grandfather's grandfather, which would be my
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great great great grandfather, it's buried out there as well,
but you know, we weren't able to find we weren't
able to find his grave. We found the grave site,
but we weren't able to find his specific grave. But
also there was something that I learned in the course
of those days traveling up to Nashville, and we were
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able to go see it as well. There's a church
in Obien, Tennessee called believe it's Saint James Baptist Church.
It was founded in the eighteen fifties. I believe, I'm
gonna I took a picture of it. I'm going to
go back to the picture real quick.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I believe now it was in the eighteen seventies.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
So Saint James Baptist Church was established in eighteen seventy four.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
It burned down and I found out that people believe
that it was you know, possibly the.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Clan or other white supremacist, white nationalist groups that burnt it.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
And my great grandfather was one of the people who
rebuilt the church.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Church was rebuilt in nineteen fifty three to have a
plaque on the building that says, you know, Saint James
Baptist Church established eighteen seventy four, rebuilt nineteen fifty three.
The church is still in existence to this day and
still serving people.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
So it was it was.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
It was awesome to see that as well, to see
like the contributions that my great grandfather made to that
community down there and that it's still.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Going to this day.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
So yeah, so you know, my Tennessee trip, man, it was,
it was, it was. It was an experience. I had
a great time in Nashville, and then when I went
to Obaien to learn the things that I learned about
my family story and my.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Family legacy, that was. That was really awesome. That was
really awesome.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Honestly, I feel like you definitely deserved to have that,
but you know, just getting away and being able to
endure all that and and you're always just working and busy.
So I'm really happy for you.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Yeah, it was. It
was a good experience.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And like I said, the main thing like that, even
that impacted me even more than the wars, was just
being able to.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Learn more about my family history and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I also found out we didn't have time to see them,
but I actually still have family in Tennessee. So you know,
next time I go back, like I want to meet
some of my family members that I've never met who
are still in Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Because a lot of my family went to Ohio.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
They went from Tennessee to Ohio and like the late
I think the late nineteen fifties is.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
When they when they migrated up here. During my family
was like.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Participants, like a lot of black families in the Great Migration,
and when they left the South for better opportunities up north,
and you know, to get to get away from a
lot of the a lot of the racism and things
that they were dealing with in the South at that time.
So yeah, they came up here, I believe in the
late nineteen fifties.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
So there are a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Of family members. There's a lot of family members that
we have that are still in Tennessee that are still
in the South that I've never met before. So so
I'm looking forward to to that. That's going to be
that's gonna be a real cool experience as well.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
So what we're gonna.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Do, since we had such a pleasant like welcome back,
and we're about to talk about some things that are
not very pleasant at all, what I'm wanna do is,
let's calls, let's take a break reset, and then we'll
go to the topic that we originally were scheduled to
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talk about on the other side.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
So stay tuned. You're listening to the Outlaws.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Real talk, real conversations.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
We got the heat. This is the Outlaws radio show.
Welcome Back, Welcome back. You're listening to the Outlaws. And
this is a story that is graphic. First of all,
so if you have young children in a room, here's
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your your warning. Now.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
We're not going to get into all the details because
it's just too.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Graphic to talk about, but just the incident itself is horrible.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
We haven't had a chance to talk about this because
the story broke while we were off last week, while
I was gone. But while I was gone, I had
there were two people that had sent me this story.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
One was my friend Angela.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Shout out to Angela, and also Robin had sent this story.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
It took me a.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Few days to read it because I was busy in Nashville,
and when I read it, I was horrified.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Absolutely horrified. And this is of the little five year
old girl.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
In my old neighborhood, colin Wood, where I'm from the
South Side, in particular, I believe it was one hundred
and forty five.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
In Saint Clair, I think where she was brew really brutally, brutally.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Brutally assaulted by an eight year old, a nine year old,
and a ten year old. The details of what that
little girl went through.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Is too graphic to even mention, but those of you
who are aware of the.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
Story, you know that it was horrible. The story went
public because the mother.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Had been trying to get justice for her child, and
apparently she was told at one point that there was
nothing that anyone could do because of the age of
the offenders, so she took to social media, went public,
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The story went viral, was covered everywhere, and.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Things started to happen. This week.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Prosecutor County Prosecutor Michael O'Malley indicted two of the alleged perpetrators,
and I'm just going to read their statement on.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Social media regarding the five year.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Old victim assaulted in a field near East one hundred
and forty eight. It was one hundred forty eighth Street
and Saint Clair Avenue in Cleveland. That's the title.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Says this, this investigation is on. Let me start over.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
This investigation is ongoing. We are actively receiving information and evidence.
Based on the evidence we have currently reviewed, two juveniles
have been initially charged, a ten year old male and
a ten year old female, and a nine year old male.
The two juveniles have been initially charged with one count
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of attempted murder, four counts of rape, two counts of
felonious assault, one count of kidnapping, and one count of strangulation.
Given the sensitive nature of this case, we decline to
release any additional details in decline.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
To comment further. First of all, I want to thank.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
County Prosecutor michael'malley for doing the right thing. And we're
going to talk a lot about this because it's a
lot of people that have a lot of different.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Views on this.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I believe that the perpetrators should have to answer for
what they did, and we're going to talk a little
bit about what that looks like. And I know that
there's issues about the eight year old, that the eight
year old may be too young according to current law
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to be indicted, but we'll see what happens there. Robin,
let's start here before we kind of get into the
details of that, because that can take us down a
whole another path as well. What were your initial thoughts
when you first saw the story, because you saw the
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story before I did, So what were what were some
of your initial thoughts?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Well, at first, I'll be honest with you, I was speechless.
My jaw drops the floor. I like I wanted to cry.
I can't imagine. This is my thought. This is still
my thought. I can't imagine this happening. So I have
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an eleven year old, an eleven year old little girl,
and I can't even imagine her being like that, her
harming another child in any way, shape or form. I
just I don't understand. This is my thoughts, over and
over and over in my questions that need answers. What
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happened to those children that they learned such a nasty,
horrible behavior that they would do something like this. This
is not normal. It's not normal for children like that
at those ages to do things like this. It is
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not normal. You don't you don't see kids going around
doing that. I mean, occasionally you'll see stories where you
know you have to watch where like you know when
kids do sleepovers and things like that. You know, there's
stories you hear about that here and there. But something
like this, not that that's okay, because that's definitely not. Okay,
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absolutely not, but stuff like this, something like this, This
is horrible, Mike. So here's my questions. One, where was
the babysitter, the family, the quote unquote family member babysitter.
Where was that babysitter? Why was that five year old
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little girl outside by herself at all at all? And
how was how did she get away that far? And
for something like this to go down long enough that
you did not go looking for her? That's number one.
How did nobody in the neighborhood not hear this? There
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were there were where I spoke to somebody else and
I did see that. As a matter of fact, we
I spoke with Ali that the some of the neighbors
did see these kids guiding the little girl down the street.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
There are witnesses.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
So there were three witnesses, and nobody did nothing right,
nobody did nothing. So nobody did nothing. The babysitter needs
to be held accountable, and the parents to these children
that did this to this little girl, they also need
to be held accountable. And I don't mean a slap
on the wrist. They need to do some time too,
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and they need to be looked into because what why
are these children behaving like this? What happened to them? This,
this goes, this goes deeper than than what we're already
talking about. And that's that's a scary thought. That is
a scary thought.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
So the next step is, first of all, I agree
with what you just said. But then the next step is,
and there's been some.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Some back and forth on this, is like, okay, well what.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Should happen to the children? I'll tell you what some
people say, and then I'm going to tell you how
I feel. So there are some folks that are like,
lock them up. There are some folks that are like, well,
these children clearly have some sort of issues and they
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need help, they need rehabilitation. My thought is this, yes,
they do need rehabilitation, but they can also get that
while serving a sentence. There are people, and there are
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some people who are.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Saying they should go to adult adult jailed, adult prison.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I don't know if I necessarily agree with that, but
juvenile life, from my understanding, if I recall correctly from
what I've been told, juvenile life is until twenty one,
and I think juvenile life.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Could be appropriated in this case.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I hear a lot of people talking about the alleged perpetrators.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
And it's a shame.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
To even have to call eight ninety ten year olds
referring to them as perpetrators. I hear a lot of
people talking about that, and people are right, they're right
when they talk about There was a discussion that I
was part of a few days ago, and it was
a lot of time that was being spent on the perpetrators,
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the alleged perpetrator, and obviously all of us with common
sense knows that something has went horribly wrong for these eight,
nine and ten year olds to think that it was
okay to do the things that they first of all,
to even know how to do the things that they
were doing to that girl, and on top of that,
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to actually do it right. Clearly something's wrong, and clearly
there needs to be a conversation about what's going on
in their households. Polly agree, and those children need help.
Those children need help. But what was making me uncomfortable
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in one of these conversations that I was a part of.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Is that there was so much time spent understand trying
to understand.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
The alleged defenders, that there wasn't enough time spent on
and the victim that little girl deserves justice, her mother
deserves justice.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
So we cannot as regardless.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Of the fact that I completely agree that that eight
year old, that nine year old, and that ten year
old need help. But we cannot be so focused on
that that we ignore that that victim, that five year
old victim deserves justice. So for me, somebody asked me
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when the indictment came out, well, how do you feel
about that. I thought it was the right thing to do.
I thought it was the right thing to do. And again,
there are some people that want them to go to adult,
adult jail, adult prison. I don't know if that's the
right thing to do. But could I see juvenile life,
which is you're in you're in juvenile detention facility until
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you're twenty one. Yeah, I can see that. I could
see that, because at the end of the day, no
matter how difficult this this incident is, no matter how
difficult this situation is, we cannot forget. We can't be
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so focused on identifying and trying to help the perpetrator.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
That we forget about the victim.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yes, that eight year old, that nine year old, that
ten year old, they need help, They absolutely need help.
They need to get rehabilitated, and we need to make
sure that they have all the resources that they need
while they're sitting in the juvenile detention facility for the
next ten years.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
You your thoughts, I.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Actually just have a question on what you were saying.
So I'm curious, as I am not too familiar with
the laws. You may know this answer. So when they
if they go to let's say they're in juvenile you know,
in the juve, and they go all up until they're
twenty one. Now, once they reach the legal age, does
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that carry over as an adult or is that like
you've you've served your sentence kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
It usually doesn't carry over unless that's what you were
sentenced to. That would normally happen if like if you
committed a murder or something like that.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
But it wasn't that nature though it was.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
It was an attempted murder. It was an attempted murder.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
But you would see someone staying for they may get
juvenile life and then have to serve time in in
adult jail once they are adult prison, once they get older.
It depends on the It depends on what they end
up getting sentenced to.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
There's there's a whole there's whole sorts of things here.
There's also there's also.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Some legal issues with that as well, because they're too
the way that the law is written, now, if i'm
if I understand correctly, they're too young to be what
they call bound over. So what a bind over is
is when a juvenile offender commits a crime of a
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certain nature, of an extreme nature, which is like what
this is.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
There are some cases where the vast.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Majority of bindovers that happen where the prosecutor binds over
a case that means they transfer it from juvenile.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Court to adult court. The vast majority.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Of those bindovers are mandatory by the state, so the
prosecutor doesn't have a choice whether he or she wants
to do it or not.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
But there is an age limit on a bind over.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
And if i'm if I recall correctly, these children are.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Too young to be bound over to adult court. Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
So But and the thing is is with the victim,
So she is going to need therapy her entire life.
She is never she is never going to be able
to live a normal life. Ever, she is going to
have trust issues, she is going to probably she's going
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to deal with a lot of a lot of issues
when it comes to dating. Now, they took they took her,
they took it away from her to choose when she's ready,
and now she she don't have that, say she don't
have that no more. And now she's she's going to
be scared. So like when they serve this time, and
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let's say they get out, when they hit twenty one
or eighteen and they get out, and like she's she's
going to live in fear. I mean, I hope not,
but the chances are I.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Hope not as well.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
And I think that's on us as a community to
support this girl and not forget this story because like
people have such short attention spans that we move on
to the next thing, that little girl is going to
be help and support for a very very very long time.
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You know, the law is what it is. I don't
know it because you're if convicted, and of course everyone
is innocent until proven guilty.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
So if.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
They're like, it's not a life sentence, you know what
I mean? And I don't know if I don't even
know how you could facilitate putting a nine year old
or a ten year old in adult prison, Like I
just I don't think that's practical.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I don't think it's feasible. I don't really know if
it's helpful.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
If the goal is to try to rehabilitate these kids,
which I do agree with those who are saying the
goal should be trying to rehabilitate these kids, I do
agree with that, But I just believe that they need
to get that rehabilitation in a detentional facility. I don't
think it's I don't think it's fair or just to say, oh,
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well they need you know, we need to give them
mental health services and so on and so forth, but
let them stay on the outside to get that. No, no,
what they did cross a certain line, and so as
a result for that, for the daughter and that mother,
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they need to they need to serve some time. I'm sorry,
they need to serve some time. And I believe based
on their ages, based on the laws, the way the
laws are written now, and based on the nature of
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the crimes, the way the laws are written, the age
the ages of the offenders to me, juvenile life sounds
pretty appropriate.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
And I'll let you close this up.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Yeah, I definitely agree. I do. I think that they
need to be locked up because if you if let's
say they didn't charge them, are they they let them
do the rehabilitation on the outside. Chances are these kids
are going to think, oh, I got away with it,
you know, I'm out here. They may strike again and
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and it won't be it won't be to her, but
it's it's chances are they are going to strike again,
and it's just going to continue out through their adulthood.
And that's why we have the problems that we have
now with children and our adults.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah. He accountable. Yeah, I mean, that's that's the bottom line.
I hate I hate that they're so young and I
think committed this crime.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
At that age, but what they did was so egregious
that it would be unjust to not hold them accountable
for that. All right, stay tuned, we'll be right back
with more The Outlaws.
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All right, we have, unfortunately yet another terrible story we
have to talk about. Robin, go right ahead.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Okay, so this one is a little close to home.
I do know this family, so what I'm going to
tell you is also another horrific story. Song The Tragic
News out of Cleveland has a community demanding answers. The
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community of sixteen year old Anaia's Anthony Paradiso says their
son was killed after an encounter with a thirty five
year old man named brand named Brandon Simpson on the
morning of September twenty eighth of twenty twenty five. According
to the family, Simpson allegedly approached a group of teenagers
who were hanging out on a public roadway not on
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his property. Witnesses say he allegedly pulled a gun, fired
what what they would what they called a warning shot,
then went back inside his house, But minutes later he
allegedly returned to the street and confronted the teens again.
The second encounter ended with Anayas being shot and killed.
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Simpson is allegedly a convicted felon who, under the law,
isn't supposed to possess a firearm. Despite that, prosecutors have
so far charged him only with weapons under disability, a
third degree felony. No manslaughter or honicide charges have been filed.
The family members and supporters say that's unacceptable. They claimed
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that Simpson fired more than fifteen rounds, that some bullets
may have struck nearby homes, and that he shouted about
being on federal probation during this incident. They are questioning
how that can be considered self defense. The family's social
media posts also do name Noah Jiro and Charvez Cooper
(37:09):
as additional individuals allegedly involved. They say Jiro was first
arrested on concealed carry charge, then released and later hit
with manslaughter warrant, but that both men remain at large,
so they are they are not They're not held in
the jail at all. They're out and we don't know
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where they are now. The Paradiso family is urging the
public to tag the Kyahagga County Prosecutor's Office online using
the hashtag justice for Anya's Paradiso, calling for stronger charges
and full accountability. Rightfully so, they say they learned about
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the arrests through local news instead. The family's message is
clear and they believe the justice system has filled their son,
and they're vowing not to stay silent. When I seen
this story, I seen my friend she shared it on
(38:14):
her story and I'm like that, I hope that that's
not I seen somebody else post it. I'm like, that
little boy looks familiar. And then i seen it later
on my friend's story and I'm like, oh my gosh,
that is Eric's son. Eric is is a Nia's father,
(38:35):
and it's just reading the story, it broke my heart
because I have a fifteen year old boy, and every
day I am in fear of my children's safety out here.
And you know, I don't know if it's just here
or all over it's just or if it's just I
don't know me, but it's it's it's worse. So now.
(39:00):
It seems worse now than what it was when we
were growing up. But I fear for Yeah, like I
fear for I fear for my child's life and his safety.
You don't know, And I always teach my child, you
need to be careful who you call your friend. You
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need to be careful who you joke around with, who
you hang around with. And you know, his father, Eric,
he is actually a good father. He always instilled that
into him, telling him, you know that the company he
keeps and you know, be safe, and he would educate him.
Their family was not a family that is not a
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family that is about They are not about violence. They
you know, they're hard workers company. You know. I believe
he owns a company, if I'm not mistaken. Like, you know,
his father is a hard working man. He just lost
his mom a couple of years ago to an unexpected
(40:05):
health issue, and it's very unfortunate. I feel so deeply
for the family, and I pray that they do get
the justice that they deserve.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, when you told me about this, I was just
I'm like, man, there's just so much going on. I
will say this, I know the Kyaoke County Prosecutor Michael
O'Malley pretty well. I know that he's someone who cares
deeply about victims and getting justice for victims.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
I know that for a fact. I do believe that
there is going to be.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Something that happens, some developments, some measure of justice for
this case, just.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Just knowing, knowing what I know about.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
What our prosecutor cares about. Now there is a question
of you know what they'll be sentenced to. There's a
question of you know, the judges. There's because I know,
(41:33):
when we were talking before the break, brought up the
amount of charges that one of the alleged perpetrators has
had in the past, and how does this person keep
getting back on the street. Well, that's a question for
the judges. And in Cuyahoga County, y'all judges are elected,
(41:56):
so you need to make sure that you're paying attention
to what these judges are doing as well, because we
have some judges in Kuyahoga County where they they give
you too much time for things that they shouldn't and
they don't.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Give you enough time for things that they should.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
So there is that because I know you mentioned before
the break about why this person was even out with
having a long rap sheet.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
But you gotta look at the judges. I do. I
am hopeful that this family is going to get justice.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Like I said, I do know that the prosecutor's office
is a place that cares about stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
But it's just it's sad, man.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
And you made a point earlier about it being.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Worse than it was when we grew up.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
I know we've talked about this public game privately with
Dante because Dante is younger than both of us. And
you know, we were talking about the nineties one day,
because you know, I was born in the late eighties, so.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
I remember the nineties.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
I'm old enough to remember the tell end of the Cracker.
And you know, he was like, man, he asked me
one day, he said, Man, was it really was it nineties?
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Really that wild? I'm like, yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
I never thought I would see a day where the
streets would be worse than the streets that you and
I because we're both from the hood that you and
I grew up in.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
It's worse. It's worse.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
I remember Crazy Bone I did an interview I think
I'm Vlad, and he was talking about it. He was like, man,
we were wild. But these young dudes today's like there's
no code, there's no honor. It's just raw, you know,
and you can't play with that. And it's unfortunate. I
(44:05):
feel for the kids, for the good kids who are
having to grow up in this. But I definitely agree
with you. And I never thought I would see that.
I never thought I would see the day where it
was worse than what we had to deal with growing up.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
But it was. And I'll give you the last word.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
Yeah, if you would like to keep up with the story,
you can add me, follow me on Facebook, or you
can look up Eric Paradiso.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
He is.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
He is going strong for his boy, and he will
stop at nothing. That's I'm honestly, that's takes a lot.
It takes a lot of strength to be able to
keep yourself up and do that. And yeah, just follow him,
keep up with the story. If you can't, just go
(45:05):
do the hashtag share, share, share, share, share, and just pray.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Absolutely all right.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
We are gonna switch it up when we come back
because we need it desperately.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
We're gonna go to tea time when we come back.
You're listening to the outlaws.
Speaker 6 (45:29):
Welcome true, sir, Pray.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Out Welcome back. You're listening to the Outlaws, and now
thank god, it's time for the show. It's a time
of the show that we like to call Tea Time
with Row.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Turn it up and see out the infectation, the latest
celebrity news and gossip explation. It's Tea Time with Roe
on the Outlaws Radio show.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
You all right, chall So we're actually gonna talk about
So if y'all, if y'all grew up in the nineties,
you know, nineties, two thousands, and gonna say more nineties,
you watched Family Matters. I don't care where you were,
(46:17):
you watch Family Matters. So if you know who Eddie is, okay,
Eddie was with a brother, all right. So mister Eddie himself,
Darius McCrary is his actual name. So he was arrested
not long ago for child support. What a lot of
(46:41):
people seem to think that they can just get away with.
If you were not active, you were not handling your business,
there there's consequences. But let me give you guys this.
So Darius McCrary decided to represent himself at his arraignments.
(47:03):
The only problem was he didn't appear to know what
was going on. He was using all kinds of big
filler words. He said, I am the authorized signator signatory
of the estate of Darius McCrary. And he was talking
in third person. He said, I am here under a
(47:24):
special appearance. Some will get it, some won't. And he
he just kept the judge was so confused. So who
are you here to represent? He said, I am here
in the defense of and here They were like so
confused that the judge, and he kept saying, of Darius McCrary,
(47:49):
What is going on right now? That's almost like a prisoner,
somebody being in prison and reading an entire law book
and coming out and representing themselves. Like, let me tell you, guys,
I was just telling Darval there is a gift in
here under the comments of Martin Lawrence walking into the
(48:10):
courtroom to represent himself. If you've ever seen Martin, I know.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
You have, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (48:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
Somebody else said he knows the law. His dad was
the police officer. Where's Carl?
Speaker 1 (48:30):
Okay? Two thoughts here. One in the words of the famous.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Alleged quote from Abraham Lincoln, who was a lawyer himself,
He said, the man who represents himself has a fool
for a client.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
So let's start there.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
He he who represents himself has food for a client.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
Let's start there. Get a lawyer, y'all, get a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
I don't like the fact though, and this was in
TMZ in Hollywood Unlocked, two places that Robin O'Malley has
been featured on, by the way, I don't like the
fact that they denied bail though, Like they denied bail
for him, like like.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
He killed somebody, or like he.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Stabbed somebody or something. Now, yes, yet child support payment, like.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Pay a child support, pay a child support.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
And yes, I also understand before people start coming from me,
I'm also well aware of the fact that there is
some inequities with the child support system, with the family
court system as well.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
And I do know that there are you know, there
are some women who are not getting what they deserved,
and there are.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Also some men who are being overly punished unnecessarily.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
I understand that. I know that I've known people on
both sides of that fence. But to not give him bail,
that that bothers me. I don't like that. It says,
I'll just read you the Hollywe Unlocked story. I'm gonna
(50:32):
skip what you've already talked about. Here we go the
forty nine year old actor. Now this may be one
of the reasons why they didn't give him bail.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
But the forty nine year old actor made his first
quart appearance following a fellow. The arrest tied to an
out of state warrant related to a long running child
support klate case. As previously reported, mccurrey was picked up
by US Border Patrol near the California Mexico border. This
is getting more absurd on Sunday, October fifth, after failing
(51:00):
to appear in.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
Court in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
After hearing on October fifteenth, McCrary made the unconventional choice
to represent himself. As you mentioned, Robin, it says in
footage obtained by TMZ, McCrary told the court, I'm here
on special.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Appearance, repeating the phrase multiple times. The judge clearly puzzled, responded,
especially appearing for who. It says, the judge wasn't buying it.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Concluding that McQuary didn't fully grasp the legal stakes, the
court ordered a public appointed a public defender to step in.
According to TMZ, the judge said McQuary is unable to
understand and appreciate the legalities of these proceedings.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
Ultimately, bill was denied.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
Now McQuary waits behind bars in the San Diego jail
pending extradition to Michigan. Authorities in Oakland County have thirty
days to transfer him back across state lines.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
If they don't, McQuary is scheduled to reappear in court
on November fourteenth.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
Okay, yeah, yeah, this is.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
This is not the greatest that says. Now, this isn't.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
This isn't McQuary's first brust with the law over child
support issues. Prosecutors highlighted that this is his third arrest
related to the same dispute. Previous detentions occurred in twenty
fifteen and again in twenty twenty three. Just last year,
McQuary was extra dieted from Los Angeles to Michigan under
similar circumstances. ABC News reported as for what he was
doing near the border, that's a very important question. Prosecutors
(52:44):
claimed he was chasing real estate opportunities in Mexico.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
His defense painted a different picture of man on a
mission to help Darius was picked up at the border
of Mexico because he was partnering with a real estate
developer that is building homes for the almost in Tijuana, Mexico.
Barlow explain, I guess this is the appointed lawyer Darius
was doing a good deed when he discovered he had
a felony warren at the border in Mexico for a.
Speaker 1 (53:09):
Mixed court appearance. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
This is just bizarre. The whole story is bizarre. Don't
represent yourself in court people.
Speaker 4 (53:25):
I just say that it's interesting that it is, Like,
I mean, yes, first of all, we're using this word
a lot today, so we're just gonna go ahead and
keep forward with it. Okay. Accountability is a thing, Okay,
you you have to be held accountable for what you
do or you don't do. You know, you have to
(53:47):
be held accountable. And if you're not, you're not taking
care of your children, you're not paying you know, your debts,
you're not paying, You're not doing what you're supposed to
be doing. There's consequences to your actions. There's consequences. Yeah,
it's it's unfortunate, it's very unfortunate. But it is really
weird that it would go to that extreme, like where
he's across the border I'm never known for them to
(54:11):
go after the daddy's or the I should say the
absent parent if you may, or whatever, whatever the situation is.
I've never known for them to go after that that
said parent trying to cross.
Speaker 8 (54:27):
The border like border like border patrol, Like that's what
I'm saying, Like this is and then denying bail like
this is a bit much like the whole story is
just bizarre.
Speaker 1 (54:40):
Yes, pay your child support.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
But like this, this seems like a bit much. This
is a lot of taxpayer dollars and a lot of resources.
And to your point, Robin, and then we'll move on
to the next one. To your point, I've never ever,
in my thirty eight years of living, ever heard of
border patrol having somebody for child support. This is ridiculous.
(55:12):
Like I just like, I feel like this might be
a little bit overkilled, to be honest, Like this might
be a little bit much.
Speaker 4 (55:18):
You know what, They just doing that because you know
he who he is, his celebrity.
Speaker 1 (55:23):
Yeah, I think so too, because.
Speaker 4 (55:26):
If it was my baby daddy, the ain't gonna do that support.
Speaker 1 (55:36):
Okay, let's move on.
Speaker 4 (55:47):
So next, if you guys remember so any of my
millennials more than likely mostly acon. Do you guys remember Akon? Okay,
so he sung locked Up? He sung Let's see what all?
So he's done locked up? He has.
Speaker 1 (56:11):
The lonely What did he do lonely?
Speaker 2 (56:13):
It was, uh, he's done so many smack that.
Speaker 4 (56:22):
Okay, so you guys think about this. Okay, So there's
smack that don't matter, like there is so many. And
he got a he got a catalog, he do, I mean,
he definitely got a catalog. Y'all know what he want
to do with that catalog? He want to get his
saddles on. Okay. Akon confirms that he is re recording
(56:44):
his entire catalog as country music. I don't know this
is going to be something different. So some of the
songs may it may it may work, it may work,
But I don't know about locked Up. I can't imagine.
I can't imagine, you know, locked up being a country song.
Speaker 1 (57:04):
You know I'm locked up? They won't let my eyes.
Speaker 4 (57:09):
Like, I cannot imagine it. That would be funny because
mostly country music is not like that. It's not like that.
Speaker 2 (57:23):
Yeah, no, I I.
Speaker 1 (57:29):
I don't know. I don't know what this would sound like.
Speaker 2 (57:33):
It doesn't it doesn't sound like it would.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
Sound good, but maybe we'll be surprised.
Speaker 4 (57:42):
He's trying to get his Beyonce on. Okay, he's trying
to get his Beyonce on, and you know, switch over
to the country music because it's that's what it seemed like.
It's it's uh reverting to. But he really needs to
stick with us. So like what I just give us
more music.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
Give us now.
Speaker 2 (58:05):
We have to listen to it when it comes out,
and we'll come back on this show and say if
it sounds good or not.
Speaker 4 (58:13):
Not well, and I like my ears are going to
be bleeding.
Speaker 2 (58:19):
Okay, we're gonna, like I hope, Like, if he's going
to do a country like, he could do this a
couple of ways. He could either like just have his
songs with like the country a guitar and stuff like that,
but still like they be basically basically the same stuff.
Speaker 1 (58:41):
If you listen to like some of the country today,
like it's like.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
Yeah, and and they got a version of like the
country rap, they call it hick hop, right, So like
they have these like the country pop, the hick top
and broke country, like a lot of that stuff sounds
like urban music but just with like the country twang
(59:06):
on it, right, So if he did it like that,
that could work. If he tries to do like a
country accent, that ain't gonna work.
Speaker 9 (59:16):
He's got too he gotta do it. If you want
to go in, you gotta go all the way. Okay,
you gotta go You just just you listen. If you're
gonna go for it, go for it. Oh, don't like,
don't tiptoe. You gotta go for it. It might be funny,
it might be funny. He might know what he's doing.
Speaker 4 (59:34):
Maybe that you know what I'm saying, he knows what
he's doing because people are gonna want to listen. He
gonna have some streams, Okay.
Speaker 2 (59:40):
Oh, he's definitely gonna have some streams. Especially when the
country version.
Speaker 1 (59:45):
A smack of that come out.
Speaker 4 (59:48):
People are going to be curious. They're gonna be curious,
and they're gonna want to hear it. Like it doesn't
matter if it's a certain particular artist or something or
the name of a song and they're like, oh, I
want to hear it. Is like if there if some
story came out and it was about an artist that
you know, did some illegal stuff or something, and next thing,
you know, everybody wants to listen to so and so
(01:00:10):
song because they want to see what's what's going on
in the courtroom. Now you got their numbers going up
and they just committed a crime, but you got them paid.
Like it's just people are so curious.
Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Yeah, no, people didn't. I could just see it, Smike,
They all on the floor, smagda, Like, how's that going
to work?
Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
I might get down to it. I might get down
to it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Depending on how you do it, it might work all right.
Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
I might act a fool and like, you know, stress
my children out with it, but I might get down
to it. My daughter gonna look at me like, mom,
you're so embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Don't don't let it be something that she can dance to. Y'all,
because we were when we left CALVS Media day, they
were doing they were doing a photo shoot as we
were walking out the door, and they had music playing
and like Robin had.
Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Two very very very very very very very strongly resists
the urge tork right.
Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
Then, No, listen, it wasn't even like an actual Turk.
So you know that cartoon character, it's like a gift
and I think it's a cartoon character, and all she
does is like uses uses her back. She does using
her back, and that's what I wasn't doing.
Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
She was fighting it, like must resist the urge? Why not.
Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
I look to my right and here's the Cavaliers, some
of the Cavaliers players over there, you know, doing a
video shoot or whatever. And I was like, oh, it's not.
Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Like yes, he was about to do that.
Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Ah, hey listen, okay, they had the club going.
Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
All right, you got anything elsewhere?
Speaker 6 (01:01:52):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
No, I do not? All right, let him know how
to follow you.
Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
Yes, you can follow me at Facebook at Robin O'Malley.
TikTok and Instagram are both real Robin O'Malley that is
in hole all in one. You can follow me. I
may follow you back. I'll follow you back. Okay, I'll
follow you back. But yes, that's where you can find me.
Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
All right. And you can find me at bb king
prin everywhere. That's d T H E K I N
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we don't listen to y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
This the out We don't listen to y'all. This the hotel.
Make him scream out now.
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I gotta sound don because the ruckets in.
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For the Outlaw.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Welcome to the Outlaws.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
This is Darby Old Kington Merrow alongside Robin O'Malley. Dante
Bry is not in today, but we have it on
good authority.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
That he will be back soon.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
And if he's not, Robin is going to go hunt
him down wherever he's at and drag him to make
sure that he comes back on this show. So she
will be hunting him down at some point.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
But yes, we have it on the good on good authority,
and will.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
We have it on good authority that Dante will be
back shortly.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
But in the meantime, miss O'Malley, how are you?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
I am good? I'm good. I'm trying to figure out
my new phone, Darby. O. I have a new phone,
and I feel like, you know, one of those elderly
people that's trying to learn technology. So I got that
new seventeen and I'm coming from like an S which
(01:37):
is like many many years ago, and that one was
very simple. So this is like too much for me.
And I'm like, wait, how do I work this? I
don't know what I'm doing. I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So, for the record, ladies and gentlemen, Robin has needed
to get a new phone for a very long time.
And it was pretty clear if you all remember a
few weeks ago and when Robin's question went viral her
question to Donovan Mitchell. One of the reasons why we
(02:10):
had to rely on the cabs footage of the question
and not the footage that we taped ourselves that day
is because Robin was recording it using her phone, and
her phone the screen looked like it had Tourette's like
it was all over the place, bounce down, bouncing, bounces down,
(02:31):
waving like and it was like her phone will not
allow her to be great.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
It did not. It was not, And I was like
so upset, like, oh my gosh, because like that was
the moment. It was the moment, and my phone was
really hating on me and right then, right then, I
knew that I needed to get my life together.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Understood that she could not thug it out with a
five five.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Plus year old phone anymore.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
And the camera was jumping. Okay, it was jumping. It
was not working for me. Like I'm just like, bruh,
this one, this one's good. Now we're good. We're good, Like,
can we get a run back? Can we run that back?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Like right, let's do it again, right, like, I hold
over my phone works.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Now right now, I got my life together than that,
I'm good.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
You know.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Just it's been living life, you know, just vibing, working,
you know. Yeah, it's not been It's not been bad.
Like you know, I've had I've had worse I've had
I've had days in the past. But yeah, but it's
(03:56):
not been horrible. It's not been horrible. But I've also,
you know what, I've actually also learned to set boundaries
over the course of the last few months. So really
I've pulled myself from people and now I just be
like I just don't even I don't answer nobody's phone calls,
nobody's I'm just staying on myself. So you know, that's
(04:22):
why life don't be life and like it usually be
life in boundaries.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
It's okay, it'd be life in but it don't be
life and like it used to be life.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Okay, I'm good. I'm good.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I am working a lot as well. Exhausted, exhausted. The
work that we do, man is like people don't realize
it's it's a lot of work. It's a lot of work.
So exhausted, But I'm good though. I went to the
Double Wards last week in Nashville, which was amazing. Anybody,
(05:02):
if you don't know what the Dove Awards is, the
Dove Awards is like the Grammys for Christian music, and
so they didn't have just the award show itself, but
they had Dove Week and there were things going on
all through the week. Met incredible people. I met artists,
I met label execs and movie execs and all kinds
(05:27):
of like management like it was just it was so
many people in the industry that were there, and everybody
was real like welcoming and ready to like have a
conversation with you and all kinds stuff like. It was
just it was incredible. It was it was really incredible.
So I had a really good time.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Nashville.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
This was my first time going to Nashville. Nashville was
was awesome.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
It was awesome. It was just cool to be and
you know.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
They call it music City, so they have all of
these different venues even like regular bars and restaurants you
can go hear music. Like it's just they got like
a music row. Like it was just it was awesome,
Like it was really cool to spend those days. I
spent you know, basically a week, a whole week basically
(06:18):
in Nashville. And it was also cool to go to Tennessee.
In general, it's my first time not only being in Nashville,
but also in Tennessee. And Tennessee is where my mother's
side of the family is originally from. My great grandparents
are buried buried in Tennessee, and my great grandfather died
(06:41):
in the nineties. So I'm old enough to remember when
I think I was like six, if I'm not mistaken,
six or seven when my great grandfather passed, and I
was very close to my great grandfather.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
He lived on the.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
He lived on the street the same street as the
church that I was baptized in, and so I would
go to that church and then after the church. I
would go down the street, running down the street screaming
for Paul Paul, going to Paulpau's house.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
So we're very close.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
It was my grandmother's father, and when he passed, it
was one of those things that I was always grateful,
especially more so as I got older for knowing my
great grandfather and having a relationship with my great grandfather,
because that's not something that everybody can say they have,
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and so it was, you know, it was emotional. It
was an emotional moment to be in Tennessee as well,
especially because I learned so much about my great grandfather's
history and my family history.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
So my great grandfather.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
He was raised by his grandfather who was born a slave.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
And when we went to Tennessee after the Devil.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Wards, because my mother went down there with me as well.
After the Double Wards, we drove two hours out to
go to the small town that my family's originally from.
It's called Obien, Tennessee. It's in West Tennessee, and so
we went to see my great grandfather and my great
grandmother's graves. My great grandfather's grandfather, which would be my
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great great great grandfather, it's buried out there as well,
but you know, we weren't able to find we weren't
able to find his grave. We found the grave site,
but we weren't able to find his specific grave. But
also there was something that I learned in the course
of those days traveling up to Nashville, and we were
(08:56):
able to go see it as well. There's a church
in Obien, Tennessee called believe it's Saint James Baptist Church.
It was founded in the eighteen fifties. I believe, I'm
gonna I took a picture of it. I'm going to
go back to the picture real quick.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I believe now it was in the eighteen seventies.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
So Saint James Baptist Church was established in eighteen seventy four.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
It burned down and I found out that people believe
that it was you know, possibly the.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Clan or other white supremacist, white nationalist groups that burnt it.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
And my great grandfather was one of the people who
rebuilt the church.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Church was rebuilt in nineteen fifty three to have a
plaque on the building that says, you know, Saint James
Baptist Church established eighteen seventy four, rebuilt nineteen fifty three.
The church is still in existence to this day and
still serving people.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
So it was it was.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
It was awesome to see that as well, to see
like the contributions that my great grandfather made to that
community down there and that it's still.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Going to this day.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
So yeah, so you know, my Tennessee trip, man, it was,
it was, it was. It was an experience. I had
a great time in Nashville, and then when I went
to Obaien to learn the things that I learned about
my family story and my.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Family legacy, that was. That was really awesome. That was
really awesome.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Honestly, I feel like you definitely deserved to have that,
but you know, just getting away and being able to
endure all that and and you're always just working and busy.
So I'm really happy for you.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Yeah, it was. It
was a good experience.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And like I said, the main thing like that, even
that impacted me even more than the wars, was just
being able to.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Learn more about my family history and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I also found out we didn't have time to see them,
but I actually still have family in Tennessee. So you know,
next time I go back, like I want to meet
some of my family members that I've never met who
are still in Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Because a lot of my family went to Ohio.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
They went from Tennessee to Ohio and like the late
I think the late nineteen fifties is.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
When they when they migrated up here. During my family
was like.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Participants, like a lot of black families in the Great Migration,
and when they left the South for better opportunities up north,
and you know, to get to get away from a
lot of the a lot of the racism and things
that they were dealing with in the South at that time.
So yeah, they came up here, I believe in the
late nineteen fifties.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
So there are a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Of family members. There's a lot of family members that
we have that are still in Tennessee that are still
in the South that I've never met before. So so
I'm looking forward to to that. That's going to be
that's gonna be a real cool experience as well.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
So what we're gonna.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Do, since we had such a pleasant like welcome back,
and we're about to talk about some things that are
not very pleasant at all, what I'm wanna do is,
let's calls, let's take a break reset, and then we'll
go to the topic that we originally were scheduled to
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talk about on the other side.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
So stay tuned. You're listening to the Outlaws.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Real talk, real conversations.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
We got the heat. This is the Outlaws radio show.
Welcome Back, Welcome back. You're listening to the Outlaws. And
this is a story that is graphic. First of all,
so if you have young children in a room, here's
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your your warning. Now.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
We're not going to get into all the details because
it's just too.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Graphic to talk about, but just the incident itself is horrible.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
We haven't had a chance to talk about this because
the story broke while we were off last week, while
I was gone. But while I was gone, I had
there were two people that had sent me this story.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
One was my friend Angela.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Shout out to Angela, and also Robin had sent this story.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
It took me a.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Few days to read it because I was busy in Nashville,
and when I read it, I was horrified.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Absolutely horrified. And this is of the little five year
old girl.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
In my old neighborhood, colin Wood, where I'm from the
South Side, in particular, I believe it was one hundred
and forty five.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
In Saint Clair, I think where she was brew really brutally, brutally.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Brutally assaulted by an eight year old, a nine year old,
and a ten year old. The details of what that
little girl went through.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Is too graphic to even mention, but those of you
who are aware of the.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
Story, you know that it was horrible. The story went
public because the mother.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Had been trying to get justice for her child, and
apparently she was told at one point that there was
nothing that anyone could do because of the age of
the offenders, so she took to social media, went public,
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The story went viral, was covered everywhere, and.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Things started to happen. This week.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Prosecutor County Prosecutor Michael O'Malley indicted two of the alleged perpetrators,
and I'm just going to read their statement on.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Social media regarding the five year.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Old victim assaulted in a field near East one hundred
and forty eight. It was one hundred forty eighth Street
and Saint Clair Avenue in Cleveland. That's the title.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Says this, this investigation is on. Let me start over.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
This investigation is ongoing. We are actively receiving information and evidence.
Based on the evidence we have currently reviewed, two juveniles
have been initially charged, a ten year old male and
a ten year old female, and a nine year old male.
The two juveniles have been initially charged with one count
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of attempted murder, four counts of rape, two counts of
felonious assault, one count of kidnapping, and one count of strangulation.
Given the sensitive nature of this case, we decline to
release any additional details in decline.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
To comment further. First of all, I want to thank.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
County Prosecutor michael'malley for doing the right thing. And we're
going to talk a lot about this because it's a
lot of people that have a lot of different.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Views on this.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I believe that the perpetrators should have to answer for
what they did, and we're going to talk a little
bit about what that looks like. And I know that
there's issues about the eight year old, that the eight
year old may be too young according to current law
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to be indicted, but we'll see what happens there. Robin,
let's start here before we kind of get into the
details of that, because that can take us down a
whole another path as well. What were your initial thoughts
when you first saw the story, because you saw the
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story before I did, So what were what were some
of your initial thoughts?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Well, at first, I'll be honest with you, I was speechless.
My jaw drops the floor. I like I wanted to cry.
I can't imagine. This is my thought. This is still
my thought. I can't imagine this happening. So I have
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an eleven year old, an eleven year old little girl,
and I can't even imagine her being like that, her
harming another child in any way, shape or form. I
just I don't understand. This is my thoughts, over and
over and over in my questions that need answers. What
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happened to those children that they learned such a nasty,
horrible behavior that they would do something like this. This
is not normal. It's not normal for children like that
at those ages to do things like this. It is
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not normal. You don't you don't see kids going around
doing that. I mean, occasionally you'll see stories where you
know you have to watch where like you know when
kids do sleepovers and things like that. You know, there's
stories you hear about that here and there. But something
like this, not that that's okay, because that's definitely not. Okay,
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absolutely not, but stuff like this, something like this, This
is horrible, Mike. So here's my questions. One, where was
the babysitter, the family, the quote unquote family member babysitter.
Where was that babysitter? Why was that five year old
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little girl outside by herself at all at all? And
how was how did she get away that far? And
for something like this to go down long enough that
you did not go looking for her? That's number one.
How did nobody in the neighborhood not hear this? There
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were there were where I spoke to somebody else and
I did see that. As a matter of fact, we
I spoke with Ali that the some of the neighbors
did see these kids guiding the little girl down the street.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
There are witnesses.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
So there were three witnesses, and nobody did nothing right,
nobody did nothing. So nobody did nothing. The babysitter needs
to be held accountable, and the parents to these children
that did this to this little girl, they also need
to be held accountable. And I don't mean a slap
on the wrist. They need to do some time too,
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and they need to be looked into because what why
are these children behaving like this? What happened to them? This,
this goes, this goes deeper than than what we're already
talking about. And that's that's a scary thought. That is
a scary thought.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
So the next step is, first of all, I agree
with what you just said. But then the next step is,
and there's been some.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Some back and forth on this, is like, okay, well what.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Should happen to the children? I'll tell you what some
people say, and then I'm going to tell you how
I feel. So there are some folks that are like,
lock them up. There are some folks that are like, well,
these children clearly have some sort of issues and they
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need help, they need rehabilitation. My thought is this, yes,
they do need rehabilitation, but they can also get that
while serving a sentence. There are people, and there are
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some people who are.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Saying they should go to adult adult jailed, adult prison.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I don't know if I necessarily agree with that, but
juvenile life, from my understanding, if I recall correctly from
what I've been told, juvenile life is until twenty one,
and I think juvenile life.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Could be appropriated in this case.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I hear a lot of people talking about the alleged perpetrators.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
And it's a shame.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
To even have to call eight ninety ten year olds
referring to them as perpetrators. I hear a lot of
people talking about that, and people are right, they're right
when they talk about There was a discussion that I
was part of a few days ago, and it was
a lot of time that was being spent on the perpetrators,
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the alleged perpetrator, and obviously all of us with common
sense knows that something has went horribly wrong for these eight,
nine and ten year olds to think that it was
okay to do the things that they first of all,
to even know how to do the things that they
were doing to that girl, and on top of that,
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to actually do it right. Clearly something's wrong, and clearly
there needs to be a conversation about what's going on
in their households. Polly agree, and those children need help.
Those children need help. But what was making me uncomfortable
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in one of these conversations that I was a part of.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Is that there was so much time spent understand trying
to understand.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
The alleged defenders, that there wasn't enough time spent on
and the victim that little girl deserves justice, her mother
deserves justice.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
So we cannot as regardless.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Of the fact that I completely agree that that eight
year old, that nine year old, and that ten year
old need help. But we cannot be so focused on
that that we ignore that that victim, that five year
old victim deserves justice. So for me, somebody asked me
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when the indictment came out, well, how do you feel
about that. I thought it was the right thing to do.
I thought it was the right thing to do. And again,
there are some people that want them to go to adult,
adult jail, adult prison. I don't know if that's the
right thing to do. But could I see juvenile life,
which is you're in you're in juvenile detention facility until
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you're twenty one. Yeah, I can see that. I could
see that, because at the end of the day, no
matter how difficult this this incident is, no matter how
difficult this situation is, we cannot forget. We can't be
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so focused on identifying and trying to help the perpetrator.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
That we forget about the victim.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yes, that eight year old, that nine year old, that
ten year old, they need help, They absolutely need help.
They need to get rehabilitated, and we need to make
sure that they have all the resources that they need
while they're sitting in the juvenile detention facility for the
next ten years.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
You your thoughts, I.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Actually just have a question on what you were saying.
So I'm curious, as I am not too familiar with
the laws. You may know this answer. So when they
if they go to let's say they're in juvenile you know,
in the juve, and they go all up until they're
twenty one. Now, once they reach the legal age, does
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that carry over as an adult or is that like
you've you've served your sentence kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
It usually doesn't carry over unless that's what you were
sentenced to. That would normally happen if like if you
committed a murder or something like that.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
But it wasn't that nature though it was.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
It was an attempted murder. It was an attempted murder.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
But you would see someone staying for they may get
juvenile life and then have to serve time in in
adult jail once they are adult prison, once they get older.
It depends on the It depends on what they end
up getting sentenced to.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
There's there's a whole there's whole sorts of things here.
There's also there's also.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Some legal issues with that as well, because they're too
the way that the law is written, now, if i'm
if I understand correctly, they're too young to be what
they call bound over. So what a bind over is
is when a juvenile offender commits a crime of a
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certain nature, of an extreme nature, which is like what
this is.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
There are some cases where the vast.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Majority of bindovers that happen where the prosecutor binds over
a case that means they transfer it from juvenile.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Court to adult court. The vast majority.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Of those bindovers are mandatory by the state, so the
prosecutor doesn't have a choice whether he or she wants
to do it or not.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
But there is an age limit on a bind over.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
And if i'm if I recall correctly, these children are.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Too young to be bound over to adult court. Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
So But and the thing is is with the victim,
So she is going to need therapy her entire life.
She is never she is never going to be able
to live a normal life. Ever, she is going to
have trust issues, she is going to probably she's going
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to deal with a lot of a lot of issues
when it comes to dating. Now, they took they took her,
they took it away from her to choose when she's ready,
and now she she don't have that, say she don't
have that no more. And now she's she's going to
be scared. So like when they serve this time, and
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let's say they get out, when they hit twenty one
or eighteen and they get out, and like she's she's
going to live in fear. I mean, I hope not,
but the chances are I.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Hope not as well.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
And I think that's on us as a community to
support this girl and not forget this story because like
people have such short attention spans that we move on
to the next thing, that little girl is going to
be help and support for a very very very long time.
(30:45):
You know, the law is what it is. I don't
know it because you're if convicted, and of course everyone
is innocent until proven guilty.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
So if.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
They're like, it's not a life sentence, you know what
I mean? And I don't know if I don't even
know how you could facilitate putting a nine year old
or a ten year old in adult prison, Like I
just I don't think that's practical.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I don't think it's feasible. I don't really know if
it's helpful.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
If the goal is to try to rehabilitate these kids,
which I do agree with those who are saying the
goal should be trying to rehabilitate these kids, I do
agree with that, But I just believe that they need
to get that rehabilitation in a detentional facility. I don't
think it's I don't think it's fair or just to say, oh,
(31:54):
well they need you know, we need to give them
mental health services and so on and so forth, but
let them stay on the outside to get that. No, no,
what they did cross a certain line, and so as
a result for that, for the daughter and that mother,
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they need to they need to serve some time. I'm sorry,
they need to serve some time. And I believe based
on their ages, based on the laws, the way the
laws are written now, and based on the nature of
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the crimes, the way the laws are written, the age
the ages of the offenders to me, juvenile life sounds
pretty appropriate.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
And I'll let you close this up.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Yeah, I definitely agree. I do. I think that they
need to be locked up because if you if let's
say they didn't charge them, are they they let them
do the rehabilitation on the outside. Chances are these kids
are going to think, oh, I got away with it,
you know, I'm out here. They may strike again and
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and it won't be it won't be to her, but
it's it's chances are they are going to strike again,
and it's just going to continue out through their adulthood.
And that's why we have the problems that we have
now with children and our adults.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah. He accountable. Yeah, I mean, that's that's the bottom line.
I hate I hate that they're so young and I
think committed this crime.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
At that age, but what they did was so egregious
that it would be unjust to not hold them accountable
for that. All right, stay tuned, we'll be right back
with more The Outlaws.
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All right, we have, unfortunately yet another terrible story we
have to talk about. Robin, go right ahead.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Okay, so this one is a little close to home.
I do know this family, so what I'm going to
tell you is also another horrific story. Song The Tragic
News out of Cleveland has a community demanding answers. The
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community of sixteen year old Anaia's Anthony Paradiso says their
son was killed after an encounter with a thirty five
year old man named brand named Brandon Simpson on the
morning of September twenty eighth of twenty twenty five. According
to the family, Simpson allegedly approached a group of teenagers
who were hanging out on a public roadway not on
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his property. Witnesses say he allegedly pulled a gun, fired
what what they would what they called a warning shot,
then went back inside his house, But minutes later he
allegedly returned to the street and confronted the teens again.
The second encounter ended with Anayas being shot and killed.
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Simpson is allegedly a convicted felon who, under the law,
isn't supposed to possess a firearm. Despite that, prosecutors have
so far charged him only with weapons under disability, a
third degree felony. No manslaughter or honicide charges have been filed.
The family members and supporters say that's unacceptable. They claimed
(36:43):
that Simpson fired more than fifteen rounds, that some bullets
may have struck nearby homes, and that he shouted about
being on federal probation during this incident. They are questioning
how that can be considered self defense. The family's social
media posts also do name Noah Jiro and Charvez Cooper
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as additional individuals allegedly involved. They say Jiro was first
arrested on concealed carry charge, then released and later hit
with manslaughter warrant, but that both men remain at large,
so they are they are not They're not held in
the jail at all. They're out and we don't know
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where they are now. The Paradiso family is urging the
public to tag the Kyahagga County Prosecutor's Office online using
the hashtag justice for Anya's Paradiso, calling for stronger charges
and full accountability. Rightfully so, they say they learned about
(37:51):
the arrests through local news instead. The family's message is
clear and they believe the justice system has filled their son,
and they're vowing not to stay silent. When I seen
this story, I seen my friend she shared it on
(38:14):
her story and I'm like that, I hope that that's
not I seen somebody else post it. I'm like, that
little boy looks familiar. And then i seen it later
on my friend's story and I'm like, oh my gosh,
that is Eric's son. Eric is is a Nia's father,
(38:35):
and it's just reading the story, it broke my heart
because I have a fifteen year old boy, and every
day I am in fear of my children's safety out here.
And you know, I don't know if it's just here
or all over it's just or if it's just I
don't know me, but it's it's it's worse. So now.
(39:00):
It seems worse now than what it was when we
were growing up. But I fear for Yeah, like I
fear for I fear for my child's life and his safety.
You don't know, And I always teach my child, you
need to be careful who you call your friend. You
(39:21):
need to be careful who you joke around with, who
you hang around with. And you know, his father, Eric,
he is actually a good father. He always instilled that
into him, telling him, you know that the company he
keeps and you know, be safe, and he would educate him.
Their family was not a family that is not a
(39:44):
family that is about They are not about violence. They
you know, they're hard workers company. You know. I believe
he owns a company, if I'm not mistaken. Like, you know,
his father is a hard working man. He just lost
his mom a couple of years ago to an unexpected
(40:05):
health issue, and it's very unfortunate. I feel so deeply
for the family, and I pray that they do get
the justice that they deserve.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, when you told me about this, I was just
I'm like, man, there's just so much going on. I
will say this, I know the Kyaoke County Prosecutor Michael
O'Malley pretty well. I know that he's someone who cares
deeply about victims and getting justice for victims.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
I know that for a fact. I do believe that
there is going to be.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Something that happens, some developments, some measure of justice for
this case, just.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Just knowing, knowing what I know about.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
What our prosecutor cares about. Now there is a question
of you know what they'll be sentenced to. There's a
question of you know, the judges. There's because I know,
(41:33):
when we were talking before the break, brought up the
amount of charges that one of the alleged perpetrators has
had in the past, and how does this person keep
getting back on the street. Well, that's a question for
the judges. And in Cuyahoga County, y'all judges are elected,
(41:56):
so you need to make sure that you're paying attention
to what these judges are doing as well, because we
have some judges in Kuyahoga County where they they give
you too much time for things that they shouldn't and
they don't.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Give you enough time for things that they should.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
So there is that because I know you mentioned before
the break about why this person was even out with
having a long rap sheet.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
But you gotta look at the judges. I do. I
am hopeful that this family is going to get justice.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Like I said, I do know that the prosecutor's office
is a place that cares about stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
But it's just it's sad, man.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
And you made a point earlier about it being.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Worse than it was when we grew up.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
I know we've talked about this public game privately with
Dante because Dante is younger than both of us. And
you know, we were talking about the nineties one day,
because you know, I was born in the late eighties, so.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
I remember the nineties.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
I'm old enough to remember the tell end of the Cracker.
And you know, he was like, man, he asked me
one day, he said, Man, was it really was it nineties?
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Really that wild? I'm like, yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
I never thought I would see a day where the
streets would be worse than the streets that you and
I because we're both from the hood that you and
I grew up in.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
It's worse. It's worse.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
I remember Crazy Bone I did an interview I think
I'm Vlad, and he was talking about it. He was like, man,
we were wild. But these young dudes today's like there's
no code, there's no honor. It's just raw, you know,
and you can't play with that. And it's unfortunate. I
(44:05):
feel for the kids, for the good kids who are
having to grow up in this. But I definitely agree
with you. And I never thought I would see that.
I never thought I would see the day where it
was worse than what we had to deal with growing up.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
But it was. And I'll give you the last word.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
Yeah, if you would like to keep up with the story,
you can add me, follow me on Facebook, or you
can look up Eric Paradiso.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
He is.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
He is going strong for his boy, and he will
stop at nothing. That's I'm honestly, that's takes a lot.
It takes a lot of strength to be able to
keep yourself up and do that. And yeah, just follow him,
keep up with the story. If you can't, just go
(45:05):
do the hashtag share, share, share, share, share, and just pray.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Absolutely all right.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
We are gonna switch it up when we come back
because we need it desperately.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
We're gonna go to tea time when we come back.
You're listening to the outlaws.
Speaker 6 (45:29):
Welcome true, sir, Pray.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Out Welcome back. You're listening to the Outlaws, and now
thank god, it's time for the show. It's a time
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with Row.
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Speaker 4 (45:56):
You all right, chall So we're actually gonna talk about
So if y'all, if y'all grew up in the nineties,
you know, nineties, two thousands, and gonna say more nineties,
you watched Family Matters. I don't care where you were,
(46:17):
you watch Family Matters. So if you know who Eddie is, okay,
Eddie was with a brother, all right. So mister Eddie himself,
Darius McCrary is his actual name. So he was arrested
not long ago for child support. What a lot of
(46:41):
people seem to think that they can just get away with.
If you were not active, you were not handling your business,
there there's consequences. But let me give you guys this.
So Darius McCrary decided to represent himself at his arraignments.
(47:03):
The only problem was he didn't appear to know what
was going on. He was using all kinds of big
filler words. He said, I am the authorized signator signatory
of the estate of Darius McCrary. And he was talking
in third person. He said, I am here under a
(47:24):
special appearance. Some will get it, some won't. And he
he just kept the judge was so confused. So who
are you here to represent? He said, I am here
in the defense of and here They were like so
confused that the judge, and he kept saying, of Darius McCrary,
(47:49):
What is going on right now? That's almost like a prisoner,
somebody being in prison and reading an entire law book
and coming out and representing themselves. Like, let me tell you, guys,
I was just telling Darval there is a gift in
here under the comments of Martin Lawrence walking into the
(48:10):
courtroom to represent himself. If you've ever seen Martin, I know.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
You have, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (48:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
Somebody else said he knows the law. His dad was
the police officer. Where's Carl?
Speaker 1 (48:30):
Okay? Two thoughts here. One in the words of the famous.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Alleged quote from Abraham Lincoln, who was a lawyer himself,
He said, the man who represents himself has a fool
for a client.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
So let's start there.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
He he who represents himself has food for a client.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
Let's start there. Get a lawyer, y'all, get a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
I don't like the fact though, and this was in
TMZ in Hollywood Unlocked, two places that Robin O'Malley has
been featured on, by the way, I don't like the
fact that they denied bail though, Like they denied bail
for him, like like.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
He killed somebody, or like he.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Stabbed somebody or something. Now, yes, yet child support payment, like.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Pay a child support, pay a child support.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
And yes, I also understand before people start coming from me,
I'm also well aware of the fact that there is
some inequities with the child support system, with the family
court system as well.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
And I do know that there are you know, there
are some women who are not getting what they deserved,
and there are.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Also some men who are being overly punished unnecessarily.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
I understand that. I know that I've known people on
both sides of that fence. But to not give him bail,
that that bothers me. I don't like that. It says,
I'll just read you the Hollywe Unlocked story. I'm gonna
(50:32):
skip what you've already talked about. Here we go the
forty nine year old actor. Now this may be one
of the reasons why they didn't give him bail.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
But the forty nine year old actor made his first
quart appearance following a fellow. The arrest tied to an
out of state warrant related to a long running child
support klate case. As previously reported, mccurrey was picked up
by US Border Patrol near the California Mexico border. This
is getting more absurd on Sunday, October fifth, after failing
(51:00):
to appear in.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
Court in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
After hearing on October fifteenth, McCrary made the unconventional choice
to represent himself. As you mentioned, Robin, it says in
footage obtained by TMZ, McCrary told the court, I'm here
on special.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Appearance, repeating the phrase multiple times. The judge clearly puzzled, responded,
especially appearing for who. It says, the judge wasn't buying it.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Concluding that McQuary didn't fully grasp the legal stakes, the
court ordered a public appointed a public defender to step in.
According to TMZ, the judge said McQuary is unable to
understand and appreciate the legalities of these proceedings.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
Ultimately, bill was denied.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
Now McQuary waits behind bars in the San Diego jail
pending extradition to Michigan. Authorities in Oakland County have thirty
days to transfer him back across state lines.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
If they don't, McQuary is scheduled to reappear in court
on November fourteenth.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
Okay, yeah, yeah, this is.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
This is not the greatest that says. Now, this isn't.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
This isn't McQuary's first brust with the law over child
support issues. Prosecutors highlighted that this is his third arrest
related to the same dispute. Previous detentions occurred in twenty
fifteen and again in twenty twenty three. Just last year,
McQuary was extra dieted from Los Angeles to Michigan under
similar circumstances. ABC News reported as for what he was
doing near the border, that's a very important question. Prosecutors
(52:44):
claimed he was chasing real estate opportunities in Mexico.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
His defense painted a different picture of man on a
mission to help Darius was picked up at the border
of Mexico because he was partnering with a real estate
developer that is building homes for the almost in Tijuana, Mexico.
Barlow explain, I guess this is the appointed lawyer Darius
was doing a good deed when he discovered he had
a felony warren at the border in Mexico for a.
Speaker 1 (53:09):
Mixed court appearance. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
This is just bizarre. The whole story is bizarre. Don't
represent yourself in court people.
Speaker 4 (53:25):
I just say that it's interesting that it is, Like,
I mean, yes, first of all, we're using this word
a lot today, so we're just gonna go ahead and
keep forward with it. Okay. Accountability is a thing, Okay,
you you have to be held accountable for what you
do or you don't do. You know, you have to
(53:47):
be held accountable. And if you're not, you're not taking
care of your children, you're not paying you know, your debts,
you're not paying, You're not doing what you're supposed to
be doing. There's consequences to your actions. There's consequences. Yeah,
it's it's unfortunate, it's very unfortunate. But it is really
weird that it would go to that extreme, like where
he's across the border I'm never known for them to
(54:11):
go after the daddy's or the I should say the
absent parent if you may, or whatever, whatever the situation is.
I've never known for them to go after that that
said parent trying to cross.
Speaker 8 (54:27):
The border like border like border patrol, Like that's what
I'm saying, Like this is and then denying bail like
this is a bit much like the whole story is
just bizarre.
Speaker 1 (54:40):
Yes, pay your child support.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
But like this, this seems like a bit much. This
is a lot of taxpayer dollars and a lot of resources.
And to your point, Robin, and then we'll move on
to the next one. To your point, I've never ever,
in my thirty eight years of living, ever heard of
border patrol having somebody for child support. This is ridiculous.
(55:12):
Like I just like, I feel like this might be
a little bit overkilled, to be honest, Like this might
be a little bit much.
Speaker 4 (55:18):
You know what, They just doing that because you know
he who he is, his celebrity.
Speaker 1 (55:23):
Yeah, I think so too, because.
Speaker 4 (55:26):
If it was my baby daddy, the ain't gonna do that support.
Speaker 1 (55:36):
Okay, let's move on.
Speaker 4 (55:47):
So next, if you guys remember so any of my
millennials more than likely mostly acon. Do you guys remember Akon? Okay,
so he sung locked Up? He sung Let's see what all?
So he's done locked up? He has.
Speaker 1 (56:11):
The lonely What did he do lonely?
Speaker 2 (56:13):
It was, uh, he's done so many smack that.
Speaker 4 (56:22):
Okay, so you guys think about this. Okay, So there's
smack that don't matter, like there is so many. And
he got a he got a catalog, he do, I mean,
he definitely got a catalog. Y'all know what he want
to do with that catalog? He want to get his
saddles on. Okay. Akon confirms that he is re recording
(56:44):
his entire catalog as country music. I don't know this
is going to be something different. So some of the
songs may it may it may work, it may work,
But I don't know about locked Up. I can't imagine.
I can't imagine, you know, locked up being a country song.
Speaker 1 (57:04):
You know I'm locked up? They won't let my eyes.
Speaker 4 (57:09):
Like, I cannot imagine it. That would be funny because
mostly country music is not like that. It's not like that.
Speaker 2 (57:23):
Yeah, no, I I.
Speaker 1 (57:29):
I don't know. I don't know what this would sound like.
Speaker 2 (57:33):
It doesn't it doesn't sound like it would.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
Sound good, but maybe we'll be surprised.
Speaker 4 (57:42):
He's trying to get his Beyonce on. Okay, he's trying
to get his Beyonce on, and you know, switch over
to the country music because it's that's what it seemed like.
It's it's uh reverting to. But he really needs to
stick with us. So like what I just give us
more music.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
Give us now.
Speaker 2 (58:05):
We have to listen to it when it comes out,
and we'll come back on this show and say if
it sounds good or not.
Speaker 4 (58:13):
Not well, and I like my ears are going to
be bleeding.
Speaker 2 (58:19):
Okay, we're gonna, like I hope, Like, if he's going
to do a country like, he could do this a
couple of ways. He could either like just have his
songs with like the country a guitar and stuff like that,
but still like they be basically basically the same stuff.
Speaker 1 (58:41):
If you listen to like some of the country today,
like it's like.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
Yeah, and and they got a version of like the
country rap, they call it hick hop, right, So like
they have these like the country pop, the hick top
and broke country, like a lot of that stuff sounds
like urban music but just with like the country twang
(59:06):
on it, right, So if he did it like that,
that could work. If he tries to do like a
country accent, that ain't gonna work.
Speaker 9 (59:16):
He's got too he gotta do it. If you want
to go in, you gotta go all the way. Okay,
you gotta go You just just you listen. If you're
gonna go for it, go for it. Oh, don't like,
don't tiptoe. You gotta go for it. It might be funny,
it might be funny. He might know what he's doing.
Speaker 4 (59:34):
Maybe that you know what I'm saying, he knows what
he's doing because people are gonna want to listen. He
gonna have some streams, Okay.
Speaker 2 (59:40):
Oh, he's definitely gonna have some streams. Especially when the
country version.
Speaker 1 (59:45):
A smack of that come out.
Speaker 4 (59:48):
People are going to be curious. They're gonna be curious,
and they're gonna want to hear it. Like it doesn't
matter if it's a certain particular artist or something or
the name of a song and they're like, oh, I
want to hear it. Is like if there if some
story came out and it was about an artist that
you know, did some illegal stuff or something, and next thing,
you know, everybody wants to listen to so and so
(01:00:10):
song because they want to see what's what's going on
in the courtroom. Now you got their numbers going up
and they just committed a crime, but you got them paid.
Like it's just people are so curious.
Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Yeah, no, people didn't. I could just see it, Smike,
They all on the floor, smagda, Like, how's that going
to work?
Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
I might get down to it. I might get down
to it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Depending on how you do it, it might work all right.
Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
I might act a fool and like, you know, stress
my children out with it, but I might get down
to it. My daughter gonna look at me like, mom,
you're so embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Don't don't let it be something that she can dance to. Y'all,
because we were when we left CALVS Media day, they
were doing they were doing a photo shoot as we
were walking out the door, and they had music playing
and like Robin had.
Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Two very very very very very very very strongly resists
the urge tork right.
Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
Then, No, listen, it wasn't even like an actual Turk.
So you know that cartoon character, it's like a gift
and I think it's a cartoon character, and all she
does is like uses uses her back. She does using
her back, and that's what I wasn't doing.
Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
She was fighting it, like must resist the urge? Why not.
Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
I look to my right and here's the Cavaliers, some
of the Cavaliers players over there, you know, doing a
video shoot or whatever. And I was like, oh, it's not.
Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Like yes, he was about to do that.
Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Ah, hey listen, okay, they had the club going.
Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
All right, you got anything elsewhere?
Speaker 6 (01:01:52):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
No, I do not? All right, let him know how
to follow you.
Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
Yes, you can follow me at Facebook at Robin O'Malley.
TikTok and Instagram are both real Robin O'Malley that is
in hole all in one. You can follow me. I
may follow you back. I'll follow you back. Okay, I'll
follow you back. But yes, that's where you can find me.
Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
All right. And you can find me at bb king
prin everywhere. That's d T H E K I N
G P I N. We are out of here. We'll
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