Co-Host Frenesa Hall, MD with Guest Susan Kramer

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Speaker 3 (00:46):
Okay, yeah, welcome everyone. This is Parnessica Hall MVS. Patty
likes to say she is crazy busy this month, so
she's left me up to my own devices. And today
my special guest is my dear friend and colleague, at

(01:10):
least I think so, Susan Kramer. She is has wears,
many many hats, herbalist, Chinese medicine practitioner, homeopath, and just
an all around interesting person. Susan, thank you for being
my guest today.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Oh it's my pleasure and I wish we were in person.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
I know it's been too long. We were talking earlier
before we came on the air about having done shows
the three of us, you, me and Patty, you know,
all together in person in the past, and and how
much fun it was. And do you remember giving me
my homeopathic constitutional remedy?

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Remember I remember everyone sitting in the room, and I
remember that you were sitting on the sofa, but you
were so excited at the moment you were actually sitting
on the back. You prop yourself up and you were
sitting on the back of the sofa.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
And I remember I remember falling asleep. Well, what I
remember is waking up. I don't remember falling asleep. I
remember waking up and thinking, oh my goodness, how long
was I out? But right, yeah, yeah, yeah, So it
was twenty some years ago. But let's just talk about

(02:34):
you because you have such an interesting background. I mean,
you went from you know, sort of hardcore business, you know, law, economics,
and to being an herbalist homeopaths. I mean, you know,
how does you know, how do you get from one

(02:55):
place to the other. So, you know, start at the
beginning and just sort of paint the picture. Because I
remember something about a relative that did herbal things, so
so fill us in because it's fascinating. And I think
one thing that it's really encouraging for all those people
out there who are doing something but always had a

(03:15):
passion for something else. And uh, and you show that
you know it can be done. So so fill us
in on you on your your journey.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
So I always I always saw myself as a child.
I saw myself as as an earblist. I didn't know
the words for it, or as a homeopath. And my
description when I would when I would have tried to
explain to people what that look like, is that I
spoke in a word in the in the words in
the language of a seven year old. And so I

(03:44):
described I had a fireplace, Well, I've always wanted a fireplace.
We didn't have one, and it would be the kind
that you could sit on, because I really liked that
you could sit and have the fire behind you, and
there'd be two cats, and people would come and I
would asked when I would just pride this, well, what
kind of job is that? And I said, well, people
would come to me and I would make them something,

(04:06):
and then they would get all better and they'd ask, well,
what would you make them. I'd say, well, I'd make
them something special that you'd get from the woods. And
I knew that there were plants in the woods behind
my house that could be used medicinally. And I knew
that because my neighbor, my neighbor Lynn Larson, had a
boy Scout manual, and the Boy Scout manual talk to

(04:29):
all about the plants and how the plant could be
used to heal. So that was my introduction as a
seven year old. That's what I wanted to do. I
wanted to heal the people and heal the pets, and
I wanted to use the stuff that was all around
us to help with that process.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, the seven year old. You grow up, you go
to college.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
And well you go to Hoge and guess what, no
one practicing medicine. When you ask about it, they say, well,
you could be a doctor and you could be a nurse.
And I wasn't. And I asked, well, what do doctors do.
I have a lot of respects for doctors from my
best friends, your doctors, but I was told that doctors

(05:15):
used medicine or they used surgery. And I said, I
don't want to use medicine and I don't want to
do surgery. So that leaves out, that leaves out, that
leaves out being a doctor. So I want to become
an economist because I was good at it. Meanwhile, I
was also really interested in martial arts. And martial arts,

(05:39):
the problem is that you get hurt in what you
can get hurt. I mean, yes, you can do it
in such a way that you don't get hurt, but
typically people do get hurt. And when you get to
the higher levels than martial arts, you start learning ways
of healing people. And I learned that to be I
was I was asking one of my instructors day, well,

(06:00):
what does it mean to be a first degree black
belt or a secondary black belt? And he was explaining
this system to me and explained that a fifth degree
black belt was not about actually was not about martial art.
It wasn't about about any kind of physical technique. Instead,
it would be he said, well, that would be like

(06:21):
becoming a doctor, or maybe learning herbal medicine, urbal medicine.
Oh my gosh, that's what I wanted to do. And
he's and he started learning traditional Chinese medicine, traditional Chinese
urbal medicine as a way of dealing with the problems,

(06:44):
like what kind of problems in in judo? Well, you
get brudes, you fall down a lot and you get rude,
and how do you get that brude to go away
more quickly? Or if someone gets gets a black eye,
how do you get that black ry to go more quickly?
So we lost How did you get into homeopathy? The

(07:07):
first time I knew about homeopathy was actually I was
in school in North Carolina and I was in a
judo club instructor with a man who was blind, and
he knew all about homeopathy. And one day I had
had I'd been thrown to the ground too many times
that I was very sorn, and he said you should

(07:27):
take article. And I asked what's article? And he said, oh,
it's it's a homeopathic. I asked, what's a homeopathic? And
now and now we're talking about exactly that. Ah.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
But there's law school somewhere in there, right. Well, first
I went there for icon.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
Yes, it's true. The first I went for Ekon. And
after going for ECON, I became an economist. I worked
as an economist, I became an attorney. I worked for
ten years as in a journey, and one day I
was I was asked if I if I were asked
to be a judge, what I accept the position? And

(08:09):
I realized, no, I really wanted to be an herbalist. Ah,
and that was that was the decision. And I started
wrapping up my wrapping up my my law practice and
went to school for rbal medicine.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
And what school did you go to?

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Again?

Speaker 4 (08:29):
I went to I went to a school that's now
known as BTA Batana Logos and and then I went
to the East West School for erbal medicine.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
And let's just talk about that, because you know, I
think some people think, you know, herbal medicine is just
you know, whatever, you know, But so many medications are
derived from plants. I think the most famous one that
we learned about a medical school was did jocksin It

(09:04):
was from a plant? But after it's from uh was
it white Willow Bark? I believe jockson is from I
don't know, I can't remember now. The first statin drugs
is from red yeast rice. So so many drugs and

(09:25):
chemotherapy agents as well are derived from plants, and so
plants have had potent effects for centuries, long before you know,
modern medicine, which is you know what, one hundred years old,
you know, it's really it's really quite quite young. Compared

(09:48):
to herbal medicine. And when you look at traditional Chinese
medicine and it goes back centuries, you know, one of
the most found for me was I think I told
you about this. I went to a conference. It was
at Harvard. It was a complimentary medicine and one of

(10:08):
the speakers had gone to China to learn more about
their system. But he had a pen decidis while he
was there and had to have emergency surgery and he
woke up and you know, you woke up from anesthesion
or whatever and you have pain. Someone cut something out
of you. And so he somehow conveyed that to the

(10:32):
caretakers and he was expected them to come in and
put some of the in the ivy or whatever. And
they came in and they did acupuncture on him, and
when he was able to take things orally, they gave
him herbal remedies. And he was shocked because he had

(10:56):
excellent pain control. And that was one that was something
that really resonated and just like hit me between the eye.
You know that these you know, quote alternative things work,
And honestly, I mean, I'm sure you believe the same way.

(11:17):
They're not alternatives. They are the original medicine, you know,
the the allopathic medicine the way I was trained, you know,
that's the alternative, and and so you know, it's just
such a profound thing. But I just find it so

(11:37):
fascinating that, you know, the martial arts, that part of
that that culture and those teachings is including the skills
and knowledge to help heal yourself naturally and without the
toxic effects of many of the that are prescribed to people.

(12:04):
So so it sounds like, you know, there was this
sort of synergy in the martial arts that you know,
pull together something that you recognized as a child, as
something that you wanted to do. And this, you know,
just opened up that door for you. And and then

(12:28):
and with the the herbal medicine. And I mean, I'm
sure people are like, well, you know what, what what
do you learn in herbal medicine school? You know, it's
like okay, plants, but recognizing what they are, but you
actually make custom remedies for people. Yes, And and I

(12:52):
you know, I have benefited from those nasty teachers have
to say so horrible, wonderfully but but effective, but so effective.
And so you know, I mean there must be I
don't even know how many plants there are that we

(13:13):
know of, and they're probably more that have gone and
extinct with cutting down the rainforests and you know those
deep remote areas that you know people haven't been and
they are probably more plants out there than we know.
Can you how many plants if you could guess, are

(13:34):
in you know, whatever compendium of herbal medicine that that
you studied from.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
So the companions that I studied from would include probably
just under a thousand remedies, of which I probably have
pretty good knowledge of about three hundred and fifty. But
but there are herbalists who would have known maybe maybe thousands.

(14:03):
H Wow, it's not the number of herbs, but how
well you can use them. So there have a story
about one of my one of my mentors, one of
my mentors was studying in India and his uh, his instructor,
his guru that I want I want you to when
you're not studying with me, I want you to be

(14:24):
doing something that's good for other people, that's helping other people.
Go do sunfish. He said, Well, I'm an herbalist. I'll
go into the forest. I'll put my care down in
the far people will come to me, and I'll help
them out. So this is a good plan, except the
only knew one plant. Knew one plant, one herbal plant
that he could recognize in the in the woods, in

(14:46):
the forest, and so people people gradually found out that
he was there, and a guy would come to them
and say, hey, you know, I'm really kind of nervous.
I have a lot of anxiety and it's just so
all through a translator. I'm nervous. I have all kinds
of anxiety. What can I do? And my mentor said,
m A, oh, you could use oshul Ganda. Its nickname

(15:11):
is like a horse. Great, okay, take Ganda. And the
person would say that wonderful, thank you so much. I
know exactly where that is. That's the plant. I've got it, okay,
and the person would leave. Then this person comes up
and this person says, hey, I have this problem. My
problem is that I'm very cold at night. I tend

(15:33):
to get cold, you know, I'm suffering from whenever it's
cool outside. You know, doctor, doctor, what can I do?
And he said, hmm, let me think. And he only
knows one herd, you understand, But Ganda actually takes care
of that too, So he tells the person goddess. Person's
very happy and leaves. My mentor starts getting a crowd

(15:54):
of people, and somebody comes and says, doctor, doctor, And
my problem is I can't status by my wife. You know,
I'm just I'm just not I'm really just not interested.
And my mentor said, what can we do? Well, oshogana
actually does that. Also, it's very slow, I think it isn't.

(16:16):
It's called like a horse for a reason, as in, well,
like a horse, and you can take a gana. And
so he was able to to fulfill the requirements of
the of the course he was taking, was that his
spirituality course by helping the people. And at one point

(16:37):
he said, you know, I feel silly because I'm an
herbalist who only knows one herb. And he told this
to some of the people, and the people told him, yes,
but you know how to use that herb and that
was yes, yes, And you know it's very similar with

(17:00):
another herb. And then we'll move we move into homeopathy.
Another herb that's quite similar is from is ginger that
we can ed ginger for so many things. And it's
in it's in the store, it's in the grocery store.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
You know it.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
It's absolutely available. We can buy it in a market.
And ginger is is as good or better than the
than the medicine that we need the nauseous. So when
someone awakens from awakens from surgery and its nauseous and
might be given an anti anti nausea herb, ginger actually

(17:38):
will be the trip. That's amazing.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah, it's amazing. And do you do they take fresh
ginger and just put it like a tea or do
they grind.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
It up or that's a great question. Ginger is such
a good remedy it actually doesn't even matter how you
get it into your body. So you could take fresh
ginger and and kind of kind of scrape off a
little bit of it with your tooth or with your cheeth,
and and that would give you enough ginger into your

(18:09):
system to help you with nausea. You should slice ginger,
put it into a pan with like a cup of water,
boil the water that you'd be making ginger tea that way,
and that will work. You could take a ginger tincher,
you could take one of my favorite ways is candy
ginger Trader Jos has Oh yeah, Trader Joe's has their

(18:34):
sweet and spicy ginger. It's my favorite, and it's it's
going to cost you something like three dollars. It will
last you years unless you eat it all, which you might.
But you can use that anytime that you have not
just nausea, but you can also use it for an
upset stomach. You can also use it if you start

(18:55):
catching a coal. It's good for coal. It's going to
clear also.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Right there, right there on your shelf, cheap as dirt,
no toxic side effect, exactly. Know, you don't have to
go see a doctor and get a prescription for it.
And you can put it on your food because it
tastes good too.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
It tastes good exactly exactly. So when I do have
someone who is cold nature, I think first of ginger,
now the first. It is one of the first dirts
that I think of, and a really nice thing.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
I see quite a few people who are receiving the poor,
who are who are being treated for cancer, and they
see on collages and the oncologists might say, yeah, but
I don't want to be having any of those nerves.
I do not want her. When my when my clients asked,
can I take her doctor says, absolutely not. And repeatedly

(19:52):
I've asked. I've asked after doctors. You are allowed to
have ginger and cinnamon. The doctor always says, those are
hers that's.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
That's just normal food, that's just boom herb. But it
is an herb, so you know, yeah, this is amazing.
And so just to sort of tie up the herbal part,
it's not just the one herb, it's also knowing what

(20:26):
combinations of herbs. Because I know those tinctures that you
made for me that I loved so much of things,
and and so you have to know how to prepare them.
But very quickly we have. It's got to take a
break in just a second. I saw you years ago

(20:46):
for abdominal pain that the GI doctor couldn't find a
cause for. You made some remedies for me and I
that's thirty years ago probably, and I haven't had that
pain since, which is amazing. So folks, hang on, we
have to take a break. We'll be back shortly and

(21:09):
we're going to segue into homeopathy and so you can
understand what that is and where to get remedies and
this someone that's just so easy, and we'll go from there.
So we'll get back shortly.

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Okay, and we are back fort the k Hall. MG.
Here with Susan Kramer are resident Herbalists, Toniopatz, Traditional Chinese
medicine practitioner, and dear friend martial artists, among many other
hats that you wear. So we've talked about herbal medicine

(24:17):
and got your background, and let's just change gears and
go to our main topic for today. Homeopathy. You know,
I think most people have heard the word homeopathy homeopathic remedy,
but if you ask them, well, what exactly is it

(24:38):
and how does it work? I would bet dollars to
donuts that the vast majority of people would have no idea.
So if you would sort of give us a homeopathy
one oh one introduction to to what it is, that's

(24:59):
sort of overarching concept, how it works, and also how
you after you were introduced to arnica for bruising from
getting thrown to the mat a little too much, you know,
how you progressed to that path and and learning how

(25:20):
to to do it. Ah.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
So one of my one of my mentors in martial
arts marvelous, marvelous woman from San Francisco, and we were
waiting for this moving van to come, and her moving
van came six hours late, so we I got to
spend a lot of time waiting for this van to come.

(25:45):
And during the time, she had become a client of
mine and herbal clients. And she said, you know you're
you're you're a good erbleist. In fact, you're a really
good ernst. But she said, you know.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
You're really to do.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
Homeopathy and I said, he please, I'm really not. I'm
very happy with herbel and she said, you can do
so much with homeopathy. She said, one of these days,
one of these days, when you're ready, when you when
you said the lease, that's the direction that you have

(26:21):
to go in. And it was made an impact on me.
I asked her had she seen a homeopath and she
said yes, And I asked, what did you see the
homeopath for? And she said, I used to have terrible allergies.
I went, I called a homeopath in New York and
the homeopath I asked how much. She asked how much

(26:45):
would she have to pay? And the homeopath said it
was going to be four hundred dollars and this was
probably fifty years ago, and she was a recalled. She
was not a person who had five hundred dollars hanging around.
She was living, you know, hand to mouth. She was
she was working as an as a as a martial

(27:08):
arts instructor, and she ended up she was convinced that
she should see this woman, so she saved up her money.
She went and saw the homeopath. She paid four hundred
dollars and by the way, other practitioners probably were charging
seventy five dollars at the time, and she was told

(27:29):
that this would be worth it. So she goes. She
goes to the woman and she tells the woman that
she has allergies. And the woman said, all right, sit down,
and proceeded to have an interview that lasted three or
four hours, three or four hours with the homeopath. At
the end of that time, the homeopath, yes homeopath, gave
her a single pellet that she dissolved under her tongue

(27:55):
and she never had out and her her hat feaver
went away forever. One classic is a classic homeopathy. It's
never it's not always that great, but I like to
think of it as with homeopathy, you can see grand
slams like a baseball grand slamm. With herbal medicine, you

(28:18):
can always get on base always, always, So when someone
comes to you and they're taking urge and they're correctly chosen,
they will always, always, always provide improvement. But sometimes you
get the grand slam that you got, you know, with
your stomach stomach distressed, she got with her allergies that

(28:39):
they were just gone and they and your wow never
came back.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Yeah, but he had one tellet and I had six
bottles of nasty stuff because you.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
Were still doing her.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yeah, yeah, you had.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
The one pellets.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
We've changed everything later on. Yes, I did have the
one pellet and it was profound. So from that experience,
it sounds like she planted the seed in your mind. Oh,
this this is something to explore further, exactly exactly. So
how do you go about learning to do homeopathy?

Speaker 4 (29:26):
So homeopathy can be done in many ways. So one
of the most the most basic way that most people
do it is to learn just a few remedies that
are really helpful for them. So I recommend that everyone
have arnica and they carry in the car, and that arnica.
These remedies in homeopathy are special that give the name

(29:46):
of the substance and also a number. And so I
recommend Arnica two hundred seeds that you carry in the car.
And you would purchase this at a help to short
purchased it from Amazon. You can forget it from a
homeopathic pharmacy.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Okay, and tell folks, what does numbers mean? I mean,
I think I remember what they mean.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
But what does numbers mean is how many times that
substance has been diluted. The ruling homeopathy is that the
more it's going to be counterintuitive. For the first start,
it is like that can't be right. But the more
times it's been diluted, actually the more powerful it becomes.

(30:34):
And so an Arnica two hundred C will be more
powerful than an Arnica thirty spine. So a lot of
people will use an Arnica thirty see for ordinary issues.
I like using Arnica two hundred C for car wreck.
So if you're you're in the car and you get
back ended and you know that the next day you're

(30:56):
going to be in sorry, sorry shape. I like the
people have in the car right next to them. You
know that little place underneath your underneath your us what
is it called well in the dash have it right there,
little bottle and take one pellet of Arnica two hundred
C and your goal is to get into your body

(31:18):
within sixty seconds. Wow, going to shock. Arnica is one
of the best remedies for shocks. It also stops micro bleeding,
and it's wonderful for bruising. It's wonderful for helping people
to kill more rapidly, and it reduces pain. I mean,
how great is that?

Speaker 3 (31:40):
How great is that? It's the sheep so so you know,
so Arnica gotta do it. But when we come back
from the break, I want to talk about the time
when you came to my house and Debby got stung

(32:02):
by b maybe and you made a remedy on the spot.
Let's talk about making a remedy and the sort of
the energy energetic medicine sort of of it, because it's
fascinating and like you said, counter a dude of that,
Diluting something a zillion times makes it stronger. So folks,

(32:23):
hang on, We're going to dig into home poppy some
more when we get back from the break.

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Okidoki, folks, we are back with Susan Kramer, and we
are talking about homeopathy. Just before the break, we talked
about she told us about arnica and how if you
that you should carry it in your car and if
you are in an accident, have it handy and take

(35:19):
one two hundred feet pellet under your tongue to help
mitigate the soreness that you will experience. But let's let's
talk about how how remedies are actually made, because I

(35:40):
think I mentioned that years ago you came to visit
and Jebbie got stung by me, and of course that's
really painful, really, and yes, yes, and you made a
remedy and I can't remember if you used it made
a pellet. I think you probably did use a pellet,

(36:02):
because we didn't have the bee, you know, to get
the stinger and make a remedy that way. But I
think you took a pellet and I only had I
didn't have two hundred c pellets, and you made a
remedy on the fly. And I saw this with my

(36:23):
own eyes. She took it and within fifteen minutes was
like ninety percent better. I don't know about you, folks,
but I've been bitten by yellow jackets and bees and
wash before and it lasts forever, and I remember and
she remembers it to this day. Because you know, generally

(36:47):
you just suffer. You know, you put ice on it
and you still hurt. So go over so the basics
of making a remedy and sort of the energetics of
why why it's better. And then let's also talk about
what we talked about at the break, about how homeopathy

(37:09):
remedies take into account the nature of the issue that
you have, but also your general nature and how you
really hone in on the best remedy for that individual,
which explains why that visit that your mentor had was

(37:32):
four hours. So we could sort of walk us through
those things.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
So I have already forgotten many of the quensis you
jus asked again, I've lost some of you asked.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Me so many questions in this Okay, the first question
we'll start with making making a remedy.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
So most people will use remedies that have been made
by lab, so there may be that pharmacy. Just like
regular medical pharmacy, there are homeopathic pharmacies that are actually
inspected and that they are there under the FDA. So
homeopathic remedies are typically you start with the stuff. So

(38:23):
starting with the stocks, you might start with let's say
let's take oh my gosh, let's take out an earth
call roo all uv and you take the plant it grows.
It's a common weed. You take that plant and you
slush it and that don't hurts. You beat it up

(38:44):
as much as you can, probably with a mortar and pestel.
You beat it up and you grind it into a
sugar there's a kind of sugar cats that you use
for this. So you grind a lactose beef, then you
grind it into it and then you take a very
small amount of that. So let's say one gram, and

(39:06):
you grind that and that that was called a one
that's say one sea. You ground in theoretically one part
of the stuff into one hundred parts of something neutral,
the gander. You doround it into latos B. Now you
take one gram of those lactose b that have been

(39:27):
medicated for one sea, and you take that one gram
and you grind that into one hundred fresh grams one
hundred grams of lack clean lactose lactose D and you
grind it in. And when you're done grinding that in
you've created what's called a two seeds. I have news

(39:48):
that has almost no medicinal quality, but it does have
it does have some of the stuff. Then you take
one gram from that one hundred grams that does diluted
hundred grams. You take one gram of that of the
two seed, and you add it to one hundred grams
of fresh lactos and you grind it in and that's

(40:10):
a three seeds, and you keep going down the line
to get to arness A two hundred seed. You do
that two hundred times. That's a song. Yeah, but actually
you do the grinding part three times. And after the
grinding part three times, you switch over the water and
you take a gram. You take a gram of that

(40:32):
diluted stuff, put it into one hundred mills of water,
and you succuss it or add energy to it. And
now you have a four seed. And then you take
one milli liter of the head and add to it
one hundred milli liters of water and you tocuss it,
and that's time you start you start diluting it down.

(40:56):
By the time you.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Get diluting it gives it more energy.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
Exactly full power, and you're down completely counterintuitors. But if
you think about it, you're adding energy each time.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
You're amplifying. I think of it as you you're diluting it,
and then you add that energy to it and it
sort of amplifies the the stamp of that plant. And
you keep doing that and you just amplify it and
amplify it. And that's how you can actually make a

(41:34):
remedy for yourself. And diluting and diluting and adding energy
and we say succuss it. You know, you're shaking it
up and beating it in your palm of your hand
and sort of just adding that energy to it. So, yes,
very counterintuitive because you know, in the Western mindset, you
know you have five miligram tablets of something, but then

(41:57):
you have ten milligram tablets, that's twice as much. And
then you go higher and higher, and then of course
we know that's higher your dose, higher your risk of
side effects. But correct me if I'm wrong, But there
are really no side effects toxic side effects of homeopathy.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
Correct, there are no toxic side effects. But yes, by
choosing the wrong remedy in a high potency, you could
you could set yourself back. You did, you could you
could create discomfort.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Right, So you need to know what you're doing.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
Right. So if if you if you were in a
car wreck and you took article, article is appropriate for
everyone who's experienced trauma ex period. So article will article
will be perfectly, perfectly fine and we'll do a good job.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (42:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
But some other remedy might make you actually more sore
because it's not the right remedy. But it's but but
but there are no you're not going to die from effect.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
Right, So if you're right, and if you and I
were sitting around and saying, hey, Richard, start taking remedy,
that's not a good plan. On the other hand, if
you have if you have a problem and we address
the problem, that's going to be, that will be that's
an appropriate use of the remedy.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Yes, And so we've got to go another break. It
comes so fast. When we come back, I want you
to talk about the pandemic from nineteen seventeen, and I
want you to talk about, you know, three remedies besides
ARNTA that a person can shoul have in their cabinet
to take care of some basic things that we encounter

(43:55):
pretty regularly. So hold on folks when we come back.
The pandemic story is pretty amazing and also give you
some tips on things that you can use very handily
for common things that we encounter. So we'll be right back.

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Okay, folks, we are back time flies all the time.
We're last segment on homeopathy with Susan Kramer. At the break,
I brought up that I wanted to do two things
in this segment. One, I want you to talk about
the power of homeopathy and give and talk about the

(47:09):
pandemic in nineteen seventeen, a flu outbreak. And then I
want you to leave folks with a few more remedies
other than arnica, that you know are handy to have
in your in your household to help you with common complaints.
So let's start with the nineteen seventeen outbreak.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
Oh, it was terrible. You know, you had people, people
were we were dying in the streets. The hospitals were
completely overrun with patients, so there was no room for
more patients and they were dying accepting the homeopathic hospitals.

(47:53):
So if some doctors claimed that they didn't lose any
patient be very different approach. So these were they were
going beyond what we have spoken of so far, that
they were using the specific symptoms that the people had.
So even though it was an academic and it was

(48:14):
an epidemic with people, people had difficulty breathing, people had nausea,
people had diarrhea, depending on how they felt, the homeocats
shows remedies with those people based on their symptoms, but
based on how they showed up with them. So so, Pronessa,

(48:35):
you and I were talking about like a headache, So
what's to turn about a heye? And if you if
you start drilling down, if you start asking the person, oh,
what makes your headache worse?

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (48:45):
Light makes it worse. Does anything make it better? Yeah,
lying down makes it better. Are you cold when you
have a headache? Yeah? Freezing cold? Oh my gosh, I'm freezing.
So it turns out that during the epidemic, during the
Spanish flu epidemic, some of the people with the flu
that they had then was characterized by extreme coldness. They

(49:08):
were freezing even though they were burning up. They e
could take their temperature and they were hot, hot hots,
but their sensation of it. Their subjective feeling was one
of absolute freezing cold. And this is the honey pots
recognized this ads as what's called a camphor, a cancer flue,

(49:34):
and what they think that they were identifying that flu
as being in that person and being characterized by coldness.
And they knew that camphor was a very good remedy
for flu where the person felt like they were experiencing cold.
And so when people were given camphor in that situation,

(49:55):
so a person came in with the flu with all
those bad symptoms, they were freezing cold. Camper turned out
to be a sagulous remedy for them. Another badless remedies
from that time was the right if you've probably heard
of this one is bryonia. So the person the person

(50:17):
would come in and this was used as an also
used as an herb, but they used it homeopathically, which
meant that they could use it in higher potency. And
the higher the potency, not only the stronger it is,
but the more the longer it will last within the body.
It's the right remedy. It will last longer within the body.

(50:39):
So the person who claimed it with Spanish flu, who said,
doctor doctor, I just I'm ready to kill myself. My
headache so hurt so badly. My headache is so severe,
and my throat, I almost my throat is killing me.
So the description was of extreme pain, but not only that,

(51:01):
they had a very special quality to it. And that
was when the doctor said, all right, do your favor,
stop breathing for a second.

Speaker 9 (51:09):
Just don't breathe, so you can imagine yourself stopping breathing
and passes your headache feel like when you stop breathing.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
Once you feel like when you stop breathing. And if
it's bryonia, if it's a bryonia flue, they feel better
while they're not breathing. In other words, they feel better
when they're not when they're not moving, when they're possibly still.
This was a brilliant remedy for them, so that that

(51:44):
was another one of the remedies that turned out to
be a very important remedy of the Spanish flue. By
the way, that's also a really good remedy for people
who suffer from from intractable pain if they have that quality,
if they have what they're called those modalities of bryonia,

(52:06):
that it's better from illness work from motion. Oftentimes they'll
feel better with pressure. So if the doctor went impressed
on her chest, a lot of people would hate that
feeling with Brionia by kind of go ah, okay.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
So what you're saying to me is well, during that
Spanish flu time, the homeopathic remedies were chosen specific to
the nature of the symptoms that each individual had, because
as we know from recent experience, and anyone who's had

(52:46):
the flu, you know, you know that sometimes you have
you know, headache, sore throat, body aches. Other times you're
nauseated and trendously fatigued, and so your constellation of symptoms
helped direct the Holy a path to the correct remedy.

(53:08):
Tell me, I don't remember exactly, but what kind of
mortality rate did they have at the homeopathic hospitals compared
to the conventional hospitals.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
It was less than five.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
Percent, less than what percent?

Speaker 4 (53:26):
It was crazy low for mortality rates at the conventional
hospitals ranged from like twenty five to fifty percent, depending
on whether they were using aspirin or not. It turns
out that aspirin actually increased the lick of death.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Wow, and they called me a pathic hospitals. Do you
say less than five percent less than.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
Five percent, and at the US National Homeopathic Hospital they
didn't lose anyone during the pandemic.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
See, this is the kind of information that that is
to me, just shows you the power of properly used
homeopathic remedies in the hands of people who really know
what they're doing. So, we have a few minutes left.
If you would give people a few more remedies to

(54:19):
just have in their toolkit for common things that elements.
It's summertime, you know, poison ivy is you know, abundant.
Is there a remedy that you could recommend for that?

Speaker 4 (54:34):
Yeah, So the most commonly used remedy for homies for
poison ivy is something called roof talk. So that r
like in radar so r pa us talk like okay.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
And what about talk thirty CE okay, roos talks thirty
C for uh, poison ivy, nausea, nausea.

Speaker 4 (55:03):
You know what, one of my favorite remedies is enough vomica,
which is an important remedy for you. Yes, yeah, vomit
oftentimes is helpful when you're nausea. But for nausea, you know,
I'm going to have to say when it's nausea, I
want people to just take ginger because it's spectrum of people.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Okay, and then you can just make a tee and
then one more, we have a minute. One more, Pardona.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
I like for people to have arsenicum in the house.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
Arsenicum.

Speaker 4 (55:44):
Yeah sounds like artenic. Yeah, like if you've been poisoned
and you said it's just so fair, I think I'm
gonna die.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Uh huh yes, arsenicon. Okay, So we've got our senicon,
we've got ginger, we've got roost, we've got nuxt vomita,
and we've got argica. And how can people reach you?

Speaker 4 (56:07):
They can reach me at four O four two four
eight two.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
There you go, folks, so you can get a consultation.
Say that number one more time and then we're going to.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
Have to go all right for four to four eight.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
A four excellent. Thank you, thank you, Thank you so much.
It's always great to chat with you, and I always
learned so much. And I hope, folks, that you benefited
from this, because you know, these are these are non
toxic remedies when used properly, and they're cheap and they
last a long time. So next week I'm going to

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