Co-Host Frenesa Hall, MD with Guest Donna Burick

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Speaker 3 (00:35):
Well, welcome everyone, It's Fornessa ky Hall, MD. As Patty
likes to say. Patty is moving today. She built the
house and she's moving and she's covered up. So I
am hosting today and we have a special guest, don
A Burick, holist life coach and energy therapist, and I'm

(01:00):
so excited for her to be with us today and
share with you all what she does and how it
can help. But first down and welcome. Thank you for
agreeing to be on my show.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Oh Vanessa, thank you. I'm really grateful that you invited me.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
So you know, we talked a few times now, and
you have an interesting sort of path to get to
holistic life coaching and being an injury therapist. You actually
started out in the Food World. Tell us about that.
I mean, yeah, how did you well, like, how did

(01:43):
you get into food and what were you doing? And
then how did you you know, pivot to what you're
doing now.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Well, Vanessa, I think it's a fascinating story, even though
it's my own, because you know, in hindsight, I don't
know any other way to have gotten here. I mean,
it started way back in childhood. It was marked with
a really deep loss. I lost my mom. She got
sick when I was in middle school, and she passed
away in high school when I was in high school,

(02:14):
and despite any medical intervention, nobody could truly help her.
So after she passed away, and I remember throwing away
bags and bags of prescription medicine. At that moment, my
feed was planted. I was determined to find a better
way to help people be on medicine right. So I

(02:35):
was going to go to Guilford College to get started
in social work. But before I did that, I went
backpacking with my dearest friend through Europe for nine weeks.
And on that trip it was life changing because we
fell in love with the rhythm of life of Europe,
the fresh foods, the long meals, the conversations people seemed

(02:56):
so healthy and connected, and at that point it showed
me how food and community could really nourish both our
body and our soul.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
So I came back.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
I went to Guilford, but there was no such traditional
training as whole was the healing. So I was going
to be a social worker. I was going to focus
on family services, and lo and behold and internships came
my way, and this is the pivot, my first pivot.

(03:30):
They wanted me to help open up our local restaurant
here and that opportunity kind of felt really natural to
me because my father had been in the restaurant business.
You know, I grew up in the food business. So
at that moment, everything shifted and I thought, oh, I
really can help people, not just through therapy, but by

(03:51):
creating like a meaningful, joy, joyful fun experience through food.
So I ASTI Guilford, went on to a culinary entrepreneurial school,
and when I came back to Greensboro, North Carolina, I
did finish up my degree, but I opened up my
catering business, which was called a Pinch of Time catering as.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
In th Y and Me.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
Of course, the space, it was my passion. It was
my pride. The business was thriving, my clients were happy.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
You know.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
I started in twenty two, which back then was a
big deal for a woman in the South to own
a business like this. But behind the scenes, fourteen years later,
I was struggling emotionally. I mean, my clients were happy,
to people appy, but I was struggling.

Speaker 5 (04:45):
My husband and I. I have kids.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yeah, I'm sorry, I didn't mean yeah. So yeah, you know,
you can look good on the outside, but what's going
on deep, you know, in the unseene. So I just decided, Okay,
if I can't have children, my catering business became my child.
But I was convinced that was what was going to happen.

(05:11):
And then one day, I'd like to say, at the
height of my super type a stress moment in my
catering my staff gave me a gift certificate. What I
thought was a massage, but they knew better. It wasn't
energy healing session.

Speaker 6 (05:28):
They knew exactly what they were doing.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
So when I when I went to that session, everything changed.
I came back to my business and I thought, I'm
making time for myself and I started scheduling sessions with
Hacku puncture and practicing chiggung.

Speaker 5 (05:48):
That's a that's an.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
Agent, and it's an energy building movement that helps you
feel better. I started meditating again, that's for a different story,
because I started doing young, I started herbal medicine, I
started mindfulness living.

Speaker 6 (06:05):
I began to.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Flow down, tune in, take care of myself. And the
punchline is I got pregnant. Even my infertility specialist was
blown away. So at that moment you can see why
I had to pivot. I had to get out of
the food business. I thought, oh my gosh, you know

(06:29):
it was food, body, mine, spirit, the whole thing was
what held me. And then I thought, after my son
turned a year and a half of me juggling myself
staying well my catering business. At this point, including part
time people, I had eighty one people on my staff

(06:50):
twenty five full time.

Speaker 6 (06:52):
It was stressful, and.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
I wanted to raise this child that I thought I'd
never get. So I thought, that's it, this is my
next big turn down, my little journey through the woods.
I sold my catering. I began studying holistic life coaching
and energy therapy, and before I go on, that's kind

(07:14):
of what got me there. But I do want to
say I now then had a second child, so I
would be able to still cook healthy meals, still practice
for myself, But then I began this training end to
my next career. Now I'm going to tell you that's
a really short version of how I got there. Okay, so.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
You know, yeah, Well, I'm just going to say that
I can relate to you this stressed out part. Like
everybody sees you as successful. I had a successful quote
unquote medical practice and got great grades from the insurance
company and doctors respected me, and I was miserable, I

(08:05):
mean just fried. I was withdrawn. I know, I was
clinically depressed. So I can definitely relate to that. You know,
people look at you all the outside and they're like, wow,
that's so fantastic. You have your own practice, you have
your own business, you know, blah blah blah. You know,
but you have employees and bills and responsibilities, and it's

(08:26):
just it's overwhelming. And I can also relate to how
do you go to help yourself? And then you find
things that really sort of float your boat and you're like, WHOA,
this is really fascinating, is I kind of I treat

(08:47):
myself like the guinea pig, you know, and I find
things that I right will help my clients. So you know,
it's so.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
I kind of want to add add something to that soul.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
You are so right.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
We find our next journeys through our own healing. So
what happens is and I don't know if this happened
to you, y'all have to tell me.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
So I became the wounded.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
Healer, right right, So, I mean I would have never
been attracted to this had I not needed it, but
I had to. To me, this is the most important
piece I had to become the healed healer. I could
not go on and open a profession as the wounded healer.
So I had to really do my own personal healing.

Speaker 6 (09:34):
But you know, for the rest of our lives will
be healing.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
But primarily I had to get out of being the
wounded healer so I could be compassionate and be there
for people without it, you know, taking me down. That
didn't you notice that happened when you.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
Did your shift?

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Oh? Absolutely? You know I got burnout and I was miserable,
and I was making people around me miserable when I
was lashing out at patience, and I mean just it
was bad. And two of my friends sat me down
and they said, hey, you hate your job, you hate

(10:15):
what you're doing, and we're tired of hearing about it.
Go get therapy and figure it out. And so that's
what I did. I went and started seeing a therapist,
you know.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
For real.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
And it really helped me recognize that despite everyone's opinion
about how successful I was and how this practice was
so great and you know, oh, you have your own practice.
You know, my parents especially, Oh, we're so proud of you.

(10:49):
You know, you go to your neighbors. Oh, your parents
is talking about you all the time, and you know,
blah blah blah. It was killing me, you know, and
I had to come to I mean, I done all
this work, you know, years and years old, my work study, yes,
to get there and sacrifice, and and it was like
it with a bait and switch. It's like I got

(11:11):
into practice and then it was nothing like I expected,
and I had to I had to come to terms
with my with with that, like this disappointment and it
turning out to be something other, and then go have
some counseling to help me sort of navigate letting it go.

(11:31):
You know it was I was. I'm the only doctor
in my family.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
Okay, so I can imagine not only was it difficult
for you to realize it wasn't your past, but the
same thing happened for me. My dad was so proud
of me to have that cater and your family was
so proud of me to be a medical doctor. Yes, yes,
I thought that was who we were and that we

(11:56):
were going to lose our identity if we moved out
of it, right.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Yes, oh, oh for sure, for sure. But I recognized
that it was killing me and it was ruining all
of my relationships. So you know, it got to be
you know, I had to save my life. And it's
interested that you said the wounded Healer. You know I did. Actually,
in a few weeks one of my guests is going

(12:25):
to be a friend that does astrology full time for
a living, and she's done my chart twice. Cool, And
you know in my chart there, you know, the prominently
is the wounded Healer. You know, the what is it
called half horse, half human or half human? I can't remember,

(12:47):
but I'm a sagittarius with five sagittaries in five houses,
and you know, and so I can relate to that,
but you have to save yourself because ultimately, if you're
not healthy, you can't you will get to a point
where you cannot help people.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
And you know, wait, how many times have we sat
on an airplane and the stewart said, if op the
gin comes down, you put it over your mask first
and then put it on your child. Right, I mean right,
such a silly thing, but that's exactly what.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
You're think exactly. And I really was at a point
where I was not helpful to the people around me,
including my patients, because I was just so angry and
and raw. I would just say raw, and it was.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
It was, it was bad.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
But you know, complimentary medicine and and you know, just counseling,
you know, those things save me. And complimentary functional medicine,
say me, because it excited me about medicine again. It

(14:08):
I was so disillusioned with the allopathic practice on so
many levels, and functional medicine made sense, and it I
saw it as a way to help people heal as opposed.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
To managing a condition.

Speaker 6 (14:29):
That so it's very different.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yeah, So you know, it's it's actually kind of shameful
that the way medicine is practiced really fries a lot
of doctors. I know so many doctors that that got out,
you know, myself included, because I don't I don't practice

(14:53):
you know like that anymore. Do more consulting and things
on the side. But it's it's actually shameful. But you know,
for you, you got pregnant, you had firsthand experience, yes,
proving proving that taking care of yourself, your body, your mind,

(15:16):
and your spirit, you healed yourself so that you could
have children. I mean, isn't that just an amazing thing.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
It's mind blowing. I'm going to tell you when I
went to the imfertility specialist to tell him, oh my god,
I'm pregnant. Well, first of all, I went to my
husband right and said, oh, oh.

Speaker 5 (15:39):
Can I talk to you? And he goes what.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
I went to his work and he got really nervous,
like why was I coming to his work? He was
anticipating the worst, right, like what's going on?

Speaker 6 (15:49):
And when I said I was pregnant.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
He couldn't it just didn't even he couldn't imagine it.
I mean fourteen years we tried and they said no.
And when I say tried, the doctor said, you know,
I mean now they have better techniques, but they just
said kind of forget about it, you know, this adopt
or something. And when I told my traditional infertility specials

(16:16):
what I did to finally get my body back, he
laughed and he said, you know, Donna, I am not
surprised that that's what you.

Speaker 6 (16:26):
Did, and that's why I got pregnant.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Like he already could tell in my personality, so he
didn't p poo it. He was like, yes, I'm sure
because I was doing reiki, and of course I didn't
even mention. I mean, I was having rek eudonomy. Of
course I was going to a counselor also at that time,
because there were no reason life coaches back then and
now tell me even my coaches. So yeah, it was

(16:51):
so exciting. And you know, if we were on a
different call, I would parley into the conversation of the
conversation stations through writing intuitive writing that I had with
my unborn children. It was beautiful and I literally would write, Yeah,
I would write and and and the baby would answer.

(17:13):
I mean, but that's a different story, and I don't
want to sidepack.

Speaker 6 (17:16):
Let's just say.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
Stuff taking we can make it.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
I mean, we know we can go on for hours
and hours and not get tired. But okay, put that
in a file. Well, we'll do that another another time.
But you know, the the what I also love about
your story is that that is first hand experience to

(17:42):
share with clients, because people believe what doctors tells them,
you know, and yes, sometimes it's not well in the
in the in the functional medicine world, you know, that
whole body mind spirit thing is is taken into account,

(18:04):
you know. But in your traditional practices, you know, you
the concept of teach young and or how you pronounced that.
I can never write that word, and meditation and all
those things there. You know, those are coming more to

(18:25):
the forefront now, but not I mean, how old are
your kids?

Speaker 5 (18:29):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (18:30):
Twenty seven?

Speaker 5 (18:31):
Yeah, okay, so.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
You know thirty years ago this was just not possible nowadays. Yes,
I mean, I have a friend that does is a
fertility kind of gui in and you know, that's a
big part of what she's recommending for people because so often,

(18:53):
you know, we address the physical, but the mental and
emotional drives to physical. You know, just to catch folks
up before our break, when you feel an emotion, it
is setting off a cascade of hormonal neuro transmitter chemicals

(19:13):
and your body is being you know, bombarded with these chemicals.
And if that is a chronic things, and it's the
stress hormones, it changes your physiology for sure. And so
you know, you can't ignore that aspect. If you're really
wanting to be well, you know, you can be quote healthy.

(19:36):
I mean, how many times people go to the doctor
and all their labs are normal, but they feel like crap.
I mean, you know, you can be normal, but that
doesn't mean you're well. And so you know, this example
is such a great example for people because I do
think people many people don't believe it. It's like it's

(19:59):
not in a test but a prescription or you know,
an X ray or whatever showing me this that there
is a disbelief. And what I've come to realize is
that this aspect of healing is critical if you want

(20:24):
to be well, you know, not just healthy on paper,
because I think it's the it's the whole thing, and
and you just can't ignore it. And and I'm happy
to see that that mental health is, you know, being

(20:45):
talked about more, but it's I think it's beyond mental health,
don't you It's not just the you know, your traditional
mental health. You're not depressed, it's the whole you know,
spiritual package. And I'm not talking religion, but I think
you know, being connected to the nature and recognizing that
we're just a little spec in the scheme of things,

(21:08):
and you know, feeling that feeling of connectedness to the world.
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Speaker 3 (24:00):
Okay, we are back with Donna Burick, holistic life coach
energy therapists, and we just talked about how she went
from social work to catering and then pivoted to holistic
life coaching and energy work. And on the break we
were talking about how her work on herself and overcoming

(24:28):
thirteen years of infertility by adopting these healthy life habits
and you know, the habits that affected the mind, body
and the spirit. And we're on break we were talking
about how important that last aspect, that spirit part and

(24:49):
not religious but the spirit part and connection to life
and nature and all that. So thank you for sharing that.
I'd like to pivot because you know, time goes by
so fast. If we don't kid, we will talk about
other stuff forever. But I want to talk about what

(25:12):
exactly is a holistic life coach. I think you know,
people hear holistic all the time, but you know, what
does it really mean as far as in practice what
a person's going to get out of that?

Speaker 4 (25:26):
Well, that's an excellent question. So of course I created
this when there was no such schooling. Now you can
go to school for holistic life coaching, so I sort of.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
Created it through.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
Lots of different trainings. So really I like to say
that it's an intersection of helping people with the scene
and unseen where life is holistic. Leod coaching isn't really
just about goal setting or accountability, although that is a
part of the journey. It's really about looking at you
as a whole person, as you just said, not our mind,

(26:06):
not just our body, but not even just our spirit,
also our energy being and how it's integrated. So as
a holistic coach, I support my clients by exploring their
lives from a bird eye view. We talk about patterns,
belief systems, emotional wounds, you know, the stories that have
been you know, shaping our lives. But then we dive

(26:30):
into a deep energy of it, because under every emotion, thought,
and physicality there's the energy. So I don't take the symptoms.
I listen to the body. I listen, of course, to
what the people want, what their desires and goals are.
But sometimes that's those decisions are based on symptoms, and

(26:54):
I go to the bottom of the iceberg and look
at the cause and the energy therapy. I can identify
the blocks, disruptions and stagnations that are interfering with us
just feeling really well, feeling good, whether it's stress or illness,
or anxiety or feeling stuck. The body can get back

(27:18):
to balance.

Speaker 6 (27:19):
And so I'm.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
Working with you as an individual as a co creative
way of healing. So it's not the person sitting there
all quiet and they're just listening to me. We are
together working with the person. Does that make sense, Yeah,
it makes perfect sense.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
And you know, and it's certainly addressing all the aspects
of that individual, and it's going to be obviously different
for each person. And you know, and you know, let's
talk about he talks about energy blockages and such, and

(28:02):
you know we are energy, right, it's a flow and
we need to be part of that flow of life.
And anytime we have you know, emotional baggage, you know,
we can lock and shut down that flow and and
so you know, it's just it's not in the people

(28:32):
I think maybe innately kind of understand this, but don't
really understand you know, on a day to day basis
that you know, we need to have energy flowing through us,
and different things will stagnate it and over time if

(28:55):
it's not addressed, I believe that is what becomes disease.
It's not just that that you have a family history
of diabetes, so you're gonna get diabetes. It's more than that,
oh absolutely, So you know doing energy work and you know,

(29:19):
and the thing is you can do some things on
your own like yoga and tai chi. I mean they're
designed to to open your meridians and and get that
cheese flowing right. And so you know, there are things
you can do for yourself that are you know, simple,
And it sounds like chigong is a practice that also

(29:43):
does that.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
In fact, at some point I'm going to teach all
you all three minute thing you can do for yourselves
every day. So you tell me when you want me
to serve that.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Go ahead, I'm ready, Okay, I have three minutes every
day to do something.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
Okay, Google.

Speaker 6 (30:01):
So this is a little out of line.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
When I actually tell you the details of how I
do my body talk sessions, it'll make more sense. But
this is something we can do if we do it
three times a day for no reason, just for balancing
or if you're stressed out, it's called tapping out. We
have three brains. We have a brain brain, we have
a heart brain, we have a gut brain. Right, we

(30:25):
could do a whole series on what that means. So
by taking your fingers, spreading them open like you're holding grapefruits,
and very gently taking both hands and tapping on your
forehead so finessa see if you can give it a try,
maybe just one.

Speaker 6 (30:39):
Hand seeing it I'm doing it.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
Tap on your forehead, go up to the top of
your head, tapping fingers way spread apart, so you're working
on both sides of the brain. Go down to the
occipital the back of your head, Go down over one ear,
then go down over the other. Meanwhile, you're having and
go down to your chest and tap all of around
your chest, so like there's a salad plate on your chest,

(31:03):
on your heart center and half all around, and you'll
know exactly how hard to tap because it feels good.
Then come down to the belly, around the belly button again,
tap around about the size of a salad plate.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
Tap, tap, tap.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
And breathe and breathe, and then stop tapping. Take a
breath in and out throughout your nose. And what that
does is that tells the connective tissue in the body,
your nervous system, and your cheese. So the energy flowing
through your meridians. It says, work as a team, calm down,

(31:41):
and flow.

Speaker 6 (31:41):
So from your.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
Head down to your toe.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
You're kind of all on the same page.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
That's not too hard. It's easy.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, that's waterfall.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
And you know easy is not always simple, right, and
simple is not always so now that you know, unless
you do it, you'll.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
Never understand the benefit.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
So everyone listening, please try it.

Speaker 6 (32:09):
Enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah really, that's uh. I mean, you know, simple things
like that instead of reaching for you know, there's annex
I think question likely you know, getting out and walking
outside barefoot, you know, grounding, you know, and connecting to
the electromagnetic of the earth. You know, that's something you

(32:34):
can everyone can do. There's all that, there's all sorts
of things we can do to sort of reconnect and
to reset, and I love that. And so again we
are at break time once again.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
Folks.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Hang on, we have more interesting things to discuss with
Donna Buick my guest today and we'll be back in
a few.

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Okay, everyone, thanks for staying on with us. My guest
is Donna Burick, holistic life coach and energy therapist, and
I want to pivot because you you practice a very
interesting thing that I only just heard about with you

(35:53):
called body talk, and I figure if I haven't heard
about it, there are probably a lot of other people
out there that haven't heard about it either. But it
sounds like fascinating for one and effective. So this is
a significant part of what you do. Can you share
with us the essence of body talk and how you

(36:18):
implemented in your practice and your work?

Speaker 5 (36:22):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (36:22):
Absolutely, So.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
You know there's all different types of healing modalities where
a person lays on the table and you put your
hands on them, but the body talk system can be
done that way, but it also is through phone and
remote and all of that. So when I discovered body talk,
I knew right away this is what I wanted the

(36:47):
cornerstone of my business to be based on my practice.
The body talk system, I'm going to describe it this way.
It's a revolutionary healing modality that combines the Western medical
knowledge was Eastern wisdom, so it into grates sort of
the philosophy, lots of intuitive communication systems within the body

(37:11):
that I am the client access. It was developed by
a guy named John Deldheim, a doctor in nineteen ninety
who was a chiropractor, acupuncturist and visionary, and he knew
the innate ability of the body was to heal if
we could listen to it. So after dozens of other studies,

(37:32):
I dove into the body talk and you know, I've
studied it for twenty three years. It's not a simple study.
You study with doctors, scientists, shamans, all sorts of different
people to learn the left and right brain, the Eastern
and Western way of healings. And the gift is that

(37:52):
if the body knows what how to heal, and it
figures out in what order, and then unless you're bleeding
and you need surgery, the body can do the best
it's can to heal.

Speaker 5 (38:06):
Right.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
So it's like, if your body's talking and we're not listening,
it stops talking. But if we take the time to
listen to what the body's saying the internal language, then.

Speaker 6 (38:19):
We can help.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
But how do we do that, How in the world
can we listen to the body? Well, the way we
do that is something called working one or a moment
with a client. It's a form of neuro muscular feedback,
similar to sort of Hansle testing. So I tap into
the bodies and eate wisdom after the person and I

(38:41):
have had a great conversation about what their goals or
what their blocks are, or what the transition they're in
the middle of, whether it's physical, mental, emotional, and I
sort of figure out, you know, a protocol to help
the body. And I'm like a detect if I ask
very specific questions. That's part of the training to the

(39:05):
body through this neuromuscular feedback, and I'm asking the body,
for example, oh, is there a breakdown between the organs?
Is there an unresolved emotional trauma? From childhood.

Speaker 6 (39:19):
You know, the body's giving me.

Speaker 5 (39:20):
Yes or no.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
Is it a belief system that's limiting the immune system?
Is there environmental sensitive sensitivities that need to be addressed?
You know, I'm just going through these questions. Meanwhile, the
person is lying under blankets and pillows with Tibetan bolds
in the background, a little biomat, so.

Speaker 6 (39:44):
There's some soft heat going on.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
So they're deeply getting a relaxing healing. But I'm really
diving in and dealing with unque wisdom of that human
to help that person do what it's meant to do,
which is go back to balance so it can naturally heal.
But once I get yes, is that highlights what is

(40:09):
going on? It brings it to the forefront. And then
you know, if it's the liver, the body may say
it needs more lymph drainage, or it needs more exercise,
or it needs more dark leafy greens. You know, it
may need some mil Sisle link with being able to

(40:31):
express frustration because, for an example, the liver is in
charge of not just breaking down our food and detoxing,
but it's in charge of processing and organizing and prioritizing
things within the body, but also within our personality.

Speaker 5 (40:50):
So if we are.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
Frustrated, the liver is gonna feel closed. The gold ladder's
not gonna work. So the body and say, we need
to work on what you're frustrated about in your life
or your job, and then I work with the client
to move through that through a body talk and through

(41:12):
the actual talking, and then we know, okay, well if
we can work outside with this person, you know, with
helping the client on the table, get through the argument
with the person at work, and then they eat a
little differently, and then I get them to go for

(41:33):
a walk. Because the dessert of a liver is movement.
So when we can say for a walk, we are
giving the biggest treat in the world to our liver.
And then that's all good, But how does it fit
So at the time I then tap it into their body.

Speaker 5 (41:52):
If it's remote, it's an.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
Energetic tapping because we're all connected anyway. And so by
doing that thing that I just taught you all, I'm saying,
the body just highlighted what we need to do.

Speaker 5 (42:06):
Now, let's make sure that every.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
Part of the body, like every piece of an instrument
in the symphony, is playing the same note. So by
tapping with the brain brain, the heart brain, and the
gut brain while the person is doing relaxing breathing, while
I'm holding with the innate wisdom of the person, the
awareness of where the change is going and needs to happen,

(42:30):
then it happens. The big difference is if we just
sat around and talked, the person would leave with great
intentions and then four hours later they kind of move
on and forget. So this is a full body, mind,
spirit experience, so there's no self sabotage, if that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
And so it makes perfect sense.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
Yeah, and so I mean, and then the person gets
happen and go man, I feel lighter and commer and
I normally have to show them a mirror because are
so bright. And again it even happens when I'm on
zoom with them. I mean, you can physically see the
calmness on their face. And then this way they think, oh,

(43:14):
well that worked.

Speaker 5 (43:15):
Well No, no, no, no.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
The calmness is our personality, the deepenate wisdom that makes
your heart beat and your food digest. That over the
next anywhere from four hours to seventy two hours to week,
depending on how big the session is, is still processing
and shifting and changing.

Speaker 6 (43:36):
So it's not like one and done.

Speaker 5 (43:41):
You don't have to get up.

Speaker 6 (43:42):
To the table and go on with your day.

Speaker 5 (43:44):
And go, oh everything's fixed.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
No, it's it's the beginning of a process of healing.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
So it's well, it doesn't people don't get there in
a day. No, one shouldn't expect that they're going to
be quote unquot recovered in a day. And you know,
it's interesting because you said that the body knows what
to do. And I say that to to my clients,

(44:12):
like every cell in the body is programmed to heal itself.
If you cut your arm, you don't say, okay, send
some platelets there to stop the bleeding, and send some
white cells up in there to clean it out, and
send some five fiberant in to you know, close up

(44:34):
the wound. You know what I mean, Like, we don't
have to do that. The body knows what to do.
The challenge is that we get in the way of
the body doing what it knows how to do. And
and you know, in some regards, we're our own worst

(44:55):
enemy because.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
We saboitize ourselves all the time.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
Right, yeah, yes, I would, whether it's you know, poor
food choices or smoking, or staying in a relationship you
know is done or we're not dealing with the.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
Pardon me, it's even the negative self talk is so
oh yes, you know that one.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
There's this little book I talk about it all the time.
It's called The Seven Day Mental Diet by EMMITTT. Fox.
Literally a twenty minute read. And that book changed my
life because you know, you've met me. I'm like this
positive you know person, No pretty much the glasses half

(45:44):
half full. And the Seven Day Mental Diet is basically
a challenge to monitor all of your thoughts and if
you have a negative thought about anything or anyone or yourself,
you kept it quickly and you change your thoughts and
so you never dwell on a negative thought for a week.

(46:06):
And what it did is it made me aware of
what I was saying to myself on a regular basis.
And it was stunning. I was like, who is this
psychopath talking to me in my head? Right? You know?
It's like my god, you know, And if you don't

(46:28):
stop and pay attention to it, it's just it's just
your chatter and your head, and you know, you you
hear it, and you keep going about your day. But
it you know, it's like who would you wouldn't talk
to anyone else like that? You know yet that I mean,
so so that little book was was was eye opening

(46:52):
and and so you know your body talk practice is
really what what medicine should be. And it used to
be I would imagine you know, we're looking at that
entire person looking at I mean, we go back to

(47:15):
days of Hippocrates and let you know, food be by
medicine and all. You know, that's really what it is.
And it's not just food that you eat for your
food for your spirit, food for your mind, right, and
what are you putting in there?

Speaker 4 (47:36):
You know, like what are we feetting our body with
our thoughts?

Speaker 5 (47:41):
Right?

Speaker 4 (47:41):
Yes, exactly, and we're China. It used to be called
barefoot medicine and you would go to your local wellness
woman that talk to you about food, herbs, exercise, and
if you still didn't get better, then you might go

(48:03):
to a doctor. So it's been around forever.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
Yes, So with that again, time flies. He's going to
need to take another break and then we'll be back
for our last session, So folks hang in there with
us and more to come.

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Okay, back, it's our last segment before I forget Donna.
Please tell people how they can reach you, you know,
for a consultation.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
Oh sure, Well, first of all, I invite anyone to
contact me and I offer a free fifteen minute chat
to see if, if, if what I do would help
you and if I can help you. So there's probably
two easy ways. My website is Donna Buick b r

(51:35):
i c k dot com. Easiest way reconnect to a
longer name. You can't schedule there, but you can read
more about me and see my prices and all of that.
But you are welcome to simply just call me. And
if you don't remember the phone number, it'll be on
the website. It's three three six five oh nine two

(52:01):
three eight four, and that phone number you can text
me at the cell phone. The number on my website
is landline, so you can't text, but you would just
text or call me, or you can even email me.
It's Donna at Donna Buick bure c k dot com

(52:22):
and just say you want to set up a free
fifteen minute chat and I will get back with you
and we'll walk out a time. I mean, it's that easy.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Excellent, excellent.

Speaker 5 (52:33):
Okay, So.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
Body talk, what what kinds of issues do you find
people having and coming to you for? And do you
find that people come to you for one thing that
they think is an issue and you really uncover something else.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
Well, Vanessa, you are so spot on because I am
going to share with you way it's that I help people.
But the magic of this is whatever brings somebody in.

Speaker 5 (53:13):
Is never the.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
Real reasons why they're there.

Speaker 6 (53:18):
And I'm going to just say it to.

Speaker 5 (53:20):
You like this.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
People come in with migraines all the time. Sometimes we
get rid of migraines. But the magic and you all
are going to take a double take on this, the
ones that don't get rid of the migraines have the
best results. You know why, because that migraine is giving

(53:42):
them permission to dive deeper. It fixes all the other issues.
They balance all the other things, and then finally I
work with them to give the body permission to continue
working with me or anybody else even if there's no migraine.

(54:03):
And then the migraine goes away. So literally, whether it's
digestive issues or autoimmune conditions or insomnia.

Speaker 5 (54:13):
That's why they come in.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
And then they go I had no idea that other
stuff was even an issue, and now as it's uncovering,
of course.

Speaker 6 (54:22):
That was the real issue.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
And then, like I said, we give the body permission.

Speaker 6 (54:27):
So I work with.

Speaker 5 (54:30):
Women of any age, men of any.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
Age, and children. Mostly women come for help, whether they're
twins or whether they're eighty, and then they normally convince
the man.

Speaker 5 (54:47):
To show up.

Speaker 4 (54:48):
Once a man comes on their own, and I.

Speaker 5 (54:53):
Love working with men.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
And when children show up, it's the coolest thing, right
because obviously I'm not life coaching them. I mean, some
kid is not interested, in my opinion, but normally they
have some sort of a challenge and the mom says,
so you're going to have to do something. Pick do
you want to go to this person and they describe me?

(55:16):
Or do you want to go see the account or
do you want to go do this? And they go, well,
let me try Donna first, And they come to me
and I promise them they don't have to talk, So
the opposite of an adult, I put them on the table,
I do the body talk session, and when I'm ready
for them to leave, they go, wait, wait, can we
sit on the couch and talk? And then they come

(55:37):
back and back and back. And I now have people
that have graduated college, had a child and still come
for some follow up sessions with.

Speaker 5 (55:46):
Me that came to me in school.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
Very cool, Okay, I want to see guys.

Speaker 6 (55:53):
It's a really funny.

Speaker 5 (55:54):
Funny.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
It's only funny now because he's better. So a guy
came to me. He came because he had horrible rashes
on his skin.

Speaker 6 (56:03):
Okay, no problem.

Speaker 5 (56:05):
I worked through body talk.

Speaker 6 (56:06):
I'm going to give you the end result.

Speaker 4 (56:09):
It turned out he worked on jets. The jet fuel
was irritating his skin.

Speaker 5 (56:17):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (56:18):
The real underlining problem was he was a musician and
he wanted to be playing in a band, but his
mom said he had to get a real job. So
he has this job as a mechanic. So he and
I worked it out that for some reason was very
connected to his mom, and his wife was supportive of this.

(56:39):
He told the mom he was going to start a band.
He wasn't going to quit his job. His wife was supportive.
He started a band. He is still fixing aeroplanes, and
his skin one hundred percent cleared up.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Still wasn't the jet fuel.

Speaker 4 (56:53):
After all, the jetsuel was the symptom to make the
skin be irritated so that he'd be confused. Well, we
untangled the confusion.

Speaker 5 (57:08):
We got the body to.

Speaker 4 (57:11):
Really be willing to imagine what it'd be like to
do his passion part time. And he was really good
at fixing planes, so he didn't really want to give
up his job and his benefits. So the answer is
half yes, it was kind of the fuel, and of
course it wasn't the fuel. And then I had another example.

(57:33):
A very high powered business woman were supposed to be
giving lectures two thousands of people, and every time she
did she had a panic attack and she and so
she somebody told her to.

Speaker 6 (57:46):
Come to me.

Speaker 4 (57:46):
You know, well, I don't know, maybe maybe don't it.

Speaker 5 (57:49):
Can help you.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
And so I was working with her on it, and
literally it was uncovered that ate years old, she was
reading a poem in school and she missed the word,
and her father and mom were there, and the dad
looked disappointed and the kids.

Speaker 5 (58:11):
Laughed at her.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
Okay, after that she never remembered that all free it
was nothing. She was eight, well, subconsciously she remembered it.
So the fear she had was it every time she
was going to stand up, she was going to be judged,
golded and laughed at. So so I had these these

(58:35):
techniques that body talk teachers of moving through that and
deoctivating the memory so you don't have a asia.

Speaker 5 (58:44):
You just have.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
It's just it's a memory, but it doesn't trigger an emotion.

Speaker 6 (58:50):
And she came back a week later and said she gave.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
Her best lecture ever and she had no anxiety.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
So that's amazing. You know. Well, I have heard recently
the body remembers the body that remembers, and like you said,
you basically took the charge out of the memory, so
the body doesn't feel that memory doesn't have that physiologic
cascade of chemicals I was talking about earlier. Well, Donna,

(59:20):
this has been a great pleasure. You know, I may
have to get you back again because we could go
on and on for forever, but our time is up.
So thank you, folks. Thank you for staying with us
for this whole time. This has been a great one.
I've enjoyed it tremendously. Donna, thank you again, and everyone
stay well.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Vanessa, thank you so very much, and everyone thanks for listening.