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It's time now for the Patty Conklin Show, exclusively on
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Speaker 3 (00:43):
Okay, everyone, phones are working. We are here, me and
Patty today and I am Parnessica Hall, MD. And you there, Patty,
I'm here.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
I'm doing a drum roll in my in my in
my room here.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
I know you've got a tough time of it this week,
so I'm glad you were still able to make it
despite the tech craziness.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
It's been tech craziness. And I told you I wanted
to rant. I want to rant for one minute because folks,
we need to like acknowledge what's going on. I didn't
let it go because it's all good. But none of
our Google mail five mail boxes in Google in our

(01:35):
workspace stops working, so for two weeks we have not
received any email on and meing, so we had to
finally move out of Google. Today we have emails. It's
awesome and I even days from the last two weeks

(01:55):
that didn't come through workspace. So so yes, I'm I'm
much better today, but at the stress level, And that's
really what I wanted you to talk to us about,
doctor Hall, you know that stress level.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yes, you know. This is actually timely too, because about
six weeks ago, the company I worked for notified us
that they were getting out of the life insurance business.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
Like, go, that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
Yeah, So you know, basically at first they just said,
you know, we're getting out, you know, the last day
we're going to take any new businesses May thirty first.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
And it was just like this nebulous thing, and we're
all kind of shell shocked, going pow, well what does
this mean? You know? Right and so and so like
you just this overwhelming feeling it first of what in
the world you know is going to happen? How do

(03:07):
you plan your anything? You know, I'm like, gosh, do
I need to cancel the vacation I had in July?
And you know, you know, yeah, all these things, and
so I think that what we can talk about today
is how do you respond in a situation like that

(03:31):
that's so on the surface feels so dire.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
I mean, it's it's it's an incredible time period to
be talking about this because look at I mean, I've
got at least ten clients who are government workers who
were given notice and right, you know, they've been in yeah,
last twenty five thirty years, and they can sink whip
and all of a sudden they're out of it, and

(03:57):
you're out of it. I mean, I'm still in business,
but Google bess up my business for the last two weeks.
So so I mean it's really opportune, I think for
us to talk about what you're experiencing, what other people
across the country are experience in the world, because obviously

(04:18):
the US government stretches out into other countries that we
help through the years, and so many people are just
you know, I mean career people. I mean, I understand,
if you've been at the job a year or two,
we all lose jobs after year two, you know at times.
I mean that's that's something. But if you've dedicated your
life to something You've been in life insurance for a

(04:41):
long time now, so all of a sudden be given
six weeks notice. You know, it just blows my mind
because I don't know about it. We haven't been doing
wonderful and posting the show, can you what.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yes, good news is that they eventually came and gave
us more information, and so my job in August. So
at least they eventually. But the thing is, in the
meantime you were like up in the air. Then eventually
they said, okay, it's gonna be like this. But and

(05:21):
I too have a friend that has been working doing
the government education research for twenty five years who went
in one day and it was like, today's your last day.
See you. Yeah. And then several other people I know
who have government contract work that are on pins and

(05:45):
needles because they don't know what's coming. And then my coach,
my coach, Greta, she is a client that had thirteen
government contracts and is now down to three.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (06:00):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
I mean, And the rule of thumb is like, you know,
gets keep six months of emergency funds, you know, available
to you in case something major happens. But this is
beyond that. I mean, people are in their older you know,
in that city, you know, sixty range or even late

(06:22):
forty range where we're not as desirable to hire in companies.
I mean, Holly, it just boggles me. And that's that
it could happen to you boggles me even more. I
mean it's just insane.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, we were just you know, side to life with
that the but I think, you know, I'll say what
happened with me? My first response was wts right, right, respected,
And when you know, we were in limbo there for
a minute. But I very quickly came to, okay, what

(07:08):
are my options here as far as my reaction freak
out mode which gets you nowhere, and it actually is
a detriment to you because when you're in freakout, you're
in this like survival mode and you're not really accessing
your cognitive full cognitive function, right. And so I took

(07:34):
some deep brows and I thought, you know, this is
a great thing. I just flipped the switch, and I'm like,
something better is coming. That's what this is. Now I
have options. Oh, I'm going to get a that you know,
we're getting a severance package. Well, gosh, maybe I can
have some time off to just do some things and

(07:57):
I just created this and they're where where I focused
on this change being for my good. I can't see
exactly where that is, but I'm like, okay, I am

(08:18):
going to stay positive about this. And you know, I
reached out to my headhunter, I reached out to some
of my other friends in the industry, you know, and
one of them said, hey, so and so is looking
for medical directors. And so i just had my second
interview today and so I'm in the running for a job.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Now.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
I don't know, I'm going to get it right, you know,
I'm doing that. And then the other thing that happened
is during this time, the is you know, I'm taking
a course in modern shamanism. Well, my teacher reached out
and and you knew about this. He's going to he's

(09:03):
organizing a global functional medicine conference in Greece for next October.
Invited me to speak and to help organize it, which
is all and it gives me chills even just saying it.
But that happened during this time, and it's like, so,

(09:25):
you know, it's like wow, yeah that this went away,
but look what fell in my lap, right, you know?
And so I think that certainly, and I'm not saying
that that you know, when the poop hits the sand,
that you can just it's like, oh yeah, just turned
to switch, right. But what I will tell you is

(09:46):
that last year or just before last year, late twenty
twenty three, some craziness happened with another business I had,
and we were dealing with Medicare, and after two years
of working with medicare clients, Medicare decided that what we
were doing was experimental and wanted a million dollars back.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
Wow, oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
So so my point is that experience I worked with
my coach, we turned that around. You know, we we
you know, I really worked on a non attachment to it,
b being focused and positive about it and saying, you know,

(10:35):
this will this, I have to get through this and
you know, and I will come out the other side well,
which I did, and but but that was a that
was a huge one for me. It was just like,
oh my god, because I've heard the horror stories about
Medicare and so what what So So what I'm saying

(10:55):
is that I had some practice from last year with
something that was just this huge blow, and so that
helped me with this because This is far less scary
and upsetting than that was, you know, right, I mean,

(11:17):
I just think you provide care. You you know, we
were doing some stem cell type treatment. You know, you
buy the stuff, it's expensive, you use the stuff, and
then they come to two years later and don't say, hey,
we don't want to pay for this anymore. They say
we want our money back. Well right right, you know.

(11:38):
So so yeah, that really helped me. And I think
that if nothing else, we learn from these experiences that
we are resilient. And I learned that last year and
and it has prepared me for this year. So wow, wow,

(12:01):
So something good came out of this miserable experience, and
that you know, that was two years of of or
a year and a half of just you know, waiting
for the hammer to drop.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yeah, I mean, is that kind of like the adage
of the adage of when one door closes, another opens right.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Right for the window open. You know, maybe it's a
seller you have to crawl through the get out into
the window.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
You know. I call it the s h I T E.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
Fact.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
I can't say it on live radio, but it's the
spiritual human in transition and it really yes, and people
are feeling it across just across the world. It seems
like with you know, so much that they're experiencing that's
taking place, and and yes.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yes, and so much uncertainty. And I think that what
what what magnifies it is the unrest in the world.
The you know, we're not going to get into a
political conversation, but the the the wars, and people and children,

(13:22):
you know, dying and being starved, and you know that
you see these images, and it just I think it
makes you more exposed, like more raw, because you know,
whatever you're feeling is just magnified when you see this
other stuff, and you know you want to mean that

(13:42):
you literally want to crawl into a hole and hide.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Well, you too, but the complication comes in here and
I and I feel like I'm you know, just repeating
myself over and over and over again. But honestly, the
people who have not traveled the world, the people who
have just gone to Mexico, you know, on a cruise ship,
or the you know, Caribbean, or maybe gone into Canada,

(14:07):
if you haven't traveled at least some hardcore poverty countries,
you know, whether it's in Africa, whether it's in Eastern
Europe wherever it is. Oh, they read the headlines about
the war, but they don't feel it. They don't understand

(14:29):
the absolute abject poverty that they're living through. And so
I can have people that go, oh, my gosh, I'm
so upset about it, you know, this and that and
the other, but they truly don't feel it. They can
acknowledge it, which is good, but they don't feel it.
I know that it's the first time when Russia invaded Ukraine.

(14:54):
Within a week, I had my flight booked to go
to Romania to work in the the kitchen, the health kitchen,
and of course everybody was laughing, and you know, I
can't cook, but I'm like, I can cut vegetable, I
can clear tables, I can do whatever. And I came
down with COVID right before I left for it. But

(15:15):
people don't typically have that instinctive response. It's it's not oge.
I want to get over there, and I want to
help certainly some of our populace, but we only have
here in the United States. The number has stayed steady.
Only nineteen percent of the American population has ever been

(15:35):
somewhere other than Canada or the Caribbean and yes, that's bad.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yes it is. And I think that what we consider
poverty here, yeah, is is nothing. No, and that's why
people walk a thousand miles to get here.

Speaker 7 (15:58):
Yep ye that.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
The you know it, it really doesn't compare. I have
a good friend, unfortunately it was passed, but is from
India came here, raised her family moved back because the
exchange rate is just incredible. And I remember when Solemn
Dog Millionaire came out and I called her and I said, hey,

(16:21):
is it really like that? And she said, yes, it
is exactly like that.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Well you have opulent, uh you know, high rises with
all the luxuries that a person could ever want have,
right next to someone living in a cardboard box.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
Yeah, totally, I mean totally.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
So it's so yeah, that good point. We need to
keep this into perspective.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
And I can't remember who the rap star was, but
it was a rap star about ten years ago, and
he went into New York City and he was like
put up a thing for the kids, going, Hey, I'm
gonna say twenty twenty kids to Africa and we're gonna

(17:13):
visit Uganda and we're gonna visit here, and we're gonna
visit here, and I'm just gonna pay for twenty kids.
You know, let's go and see what it's really like.
You're inner city, but less what it's like in some
of the other areas of Africa. And so he took
these twenty kids, these poor kids. I mean, it was genius.

(17:34):
You know, they didn't know what they were going to expect.
They were inner city, so they thought it was the
worst of the worst of the worst. And then they
got into these areas that are so incredibly poverty stricken,
and the kids are like, well, okay, what are we
doing here? And he said, you're going to be of
service to the kids here, So you're going to prepare

(17:56):
meals for them, You're going to serve them them And
it was it was an awesome, awesome idea process because
the kids from the inner City of New York really
understood that what they were experienced is tough. Not going
to deny it. It's tough, but it's nowhere near what

(18:20):
kids in other parts of the world are experiencing and
feeling right right, And so I think it's wow for
us to get in this space of you know, poor me.
And it's not that I want to invalidate that at all.
I don't. It's just, you know, it's like what you did,

(18:40):
how fast do you pick yourself back up when something's devastating?

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Kids like that, right, right, and keep some perspective about it,
and and then you know, I think, you know. The
other thing that helps me a lot is every morning
I I have, you know, I make note of things
that I'm grateful for. You know, I'm grateful for good
night to sleep. I'm grateful for the birds chirping in

(19:10):
the morning. I'm grateful for these flowers, these beautiful flowers
that are in our yard, you know. I mean, I'm
grateful to be able to have my mind still work
and my vibe function, and you know, and I think
that I also think that when you get so negative

(19:34):
and so overwhelmed you, if you listen to Esther Hicks
at all, oh yeah, and many others, you're vibrating at
such a low level. And if we are truly antennas
putting out a beacons, putting out a vibration to call

(19:57):
and attract to us, then if we stay in that state,
we just get more of the same. I mean, think
about how many times have you gotten up in the
morning and you stub your toe and you're like, you know,
all the expletives, and they say it's going to be
a sucky day to day and then you just keep

(20:20):
bumping into things and kep dropping things, and it's like
the whole day is a sucky day. Well, yep, you
just called it into being. Yeah, So you know you
stub your foot in the morning, you go, ooh, awi's
got to get better from here. You know, it's just
and it's I mean, I'm betting that some people think, oh,

(20:42):
this is just silly. But what we think about and
what we dwell on and what we if you're not
just thinking about but when you feel it, When you
think it and feel it, you know you are transmitting
a signal. But I mean, how many that ain't been hurt? Like, yeah,

(21:03):
go ahead the next step. No, it's just when you
have a sore arm, like everybody touches it?

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Speaker 4 (24:01):
Hey everyone, it's Patty and Vanessa. And this is making
making sense of the world or making sense. I don't
know what we're doing, but today we're in world mode
and I think we should be. And we were talking about,
you know, poverty in other areas and what we what

(24:21):
we know we don't know, right or we don't know
what we know.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Whatever it is.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
But taking it a step further in in staying positive,
because you know that was your point heading into break
was stay positive. If you stub your toe and you
say it's going to be a sucky day, then chances
are it's going to be a second day. But I'm
going to take it a step further. In my two
weeks of absolute frustration with Google because Google Workspace has

(24:51):
no phone support, no human like go and read this,
I mean I had people in Bangladesh, people in Cape Town,
so south that I mean, I had all of my
staff reading articles from Google trying to figure out why
our email just stopped on May seventh, so is I

(25:12):
started every morning in meditation, and you know I'm not
a great meditator in the morning. I started meditating every morning.
Today all the emails are going to be here it's
going to be a great day. It's going to be
a great day. Emails are going to be here. And
from May seventh on, Guess what, No matter how positive

(25:33):
I stayed, didn't change anything. And so yesterday we split
to another company that has twenty four to seven live support. Yeah,
crossed an arm and a leg, but I got my
email up and running. It took five hours of me
on the phone. So what I learned, oh, it was

(25:55):
incredibly painful. What I learned through this experience was that yes,
I could stay positive, but at some point you have
to say, Okay, being positive isn't enough. I have to
take action and make a change. And I think that
you know the same positive when things are are just

(26:17):
falling apart, that's awesome, But then you have to say, okay,
we're now in a break period because you know, nobody
can get through. I've got critically ill patience that can't
see in touch with me because all they have is
my email address or they're calling in the office, and
so you know, it's a matter of meditate, stay positive,

(26:42):
but when all else fails, be willing to make a shift,
take change.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Yes, but don't you think that setting up your day
with that positive energy helped you access your thinking mind
and not just be running around on emotion.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
I think that it does. I mean I think it
grounds you. I know we did some social media this
week because I needed it. Is how do we ground
when things are so frustrating and you're dealing with one
aspect and you know, critically ill clients, and when you're

(27:27):
dealing with that, how do you ground yourself to be
able to stay in a positive state? Because what I
find is if I'm not in a grounded state, it's
more challenging for me to be positive. Yes, And I
wanted to get your thoughts on that. I mean, yes,
you know, we can do supplements, but for me, NUTRITI best.

(27:51):
You know, whether I'm eating a steak, whether I'm eating
some you know, avocado, whatever it is that's going to
make me in a more grounded state. I kind of
wanted to get your take on what you feel rounding is.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Yes, you know, I think that when when all you
know what breaks loose like this, that's a signal for
you to do some self care. That it's like, okay,
I need to take good care of myself. I think

(28:29):
meditation is great. I'm terrible of meditating, but sometimes I
do it. I think getting out of nature, grounding, walking
barefoot on the earth, and appreciating Mother Earth because they
wouldn't be alive without the bounty that she provides.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
Right.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
I think exercise is really helpful. I think exercise is
great for sort of getting out those frustrations. And you
can exercise for free, you know, it's not like you
have to pay anybody. You can exercise in your living room.
I think there are all those things that we do

(29:16):
that can help. I can tell you what not to do.
Drinking a lot of alcohol will only make things worse.
It's a depressed and if you're already stressed and anxious,
you're just going to be more stressed and anxious. It
also interferes with your sleep, which you know, if you're
like me, when you get in situations like that, that's

(29:36):
one of the things that gets interrupted anyways. But wake
up in the middle of the night to go to
the bathroom, and then my brain switches on your monkey
mind thinking about you know, everything, and so alcohol is
a very bad idea. Yeah, I think that eating poorly
is a bad idea. Eating a lot of sugar, a

(29:57):
lot of process food to things that just make your
body work so hard to deal with them, and so
eating cleaner, drinking water and tea, and just sell, like
I said, self care. You know, if you have a
particular skill, you know, trade with a friend that's massage

(30:21):
therapist in trade for massage, and you you know, provide
them with whatever service you do. You know again, I
think that that's self care. And you know, and and
also you know, don't keep yourself in isolation. Yeah, you know,
talk to other people, talk to your friends. You know,

(30:43):
people people are willing to help and willing to you know,
take you under their wings. But if they don't know
that you're going through this challenging time, then they can't.
They don't have the opportunity. And so you know, it
takes a village. You know, we all need that connection,
we need that support and quite frankly, you know, for me,

(31:06):
it's my close friends and my spouse of course who
get me through those challenging times. And that's why having
friends and relationships are so important. And they're important not
just forgetting the r a difficult time, but studies have shown
that that relationship and connectedness is a direct indicator of

(31:33):
well being and even longevity. Matter of fact, I think
I said that having a meaningful relationship at age fifty
was a better predictor of your health going forward than
your cholesterol level. Really, yes, you know, maybe one day

(31:54):
we'll talk about that study and go into it in
more detail. But so you know, your friends are there
for you, and your real friends you know, and you know,
I mean sometimes you just need to go cry on
the couch. Yeah, but you're not alone. And I will
say this that if you go through these challenging times alone,

(32:17):
I believe that it makes it harder, makes a really
challenging situation gap harder.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
Not bouncing anything off of anyone, You're just going into
a loop within your brain. And let's talk about that
when we get back, because this is just so important.
People are really feeling the uppeople of life right now.
So when we get back, folks, we'll go into that
and we'll catch on the other side.

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Speaker 4 (35:20):
Hey everyone, it's Patty and Vanessa making sense of the world.
Really happy that you've joined us. Please know you can
always always send us an email. Hey, my emails up.
I'll but you can always email us at Pattise at
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(35:42):
get a email specifically for this show, but you can
always email us questions during the show or before the show,
because each week we like to free flow, we like
to see kind of where we are, where the world is,
and just kind of take it from this, and we
just really didn't want to get stuck into needing to

(36:06):
give program thoughts four weeks out or six weeks out
or whatever when the world is so changeable every day,
And so they were talking about how do we get
out of, you know how if we're in difficult situations
in our life right now, whether you've lost your job

(36:26):
due to federal government, whether you're going through you know,
relationships some people, whether you're building a house, which, oh
my goodness is beyond stressful. Although my hillo, my builder,
said I will be in the house by shooting fifteenth,
so now I'm on countdown on those.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
So that's cool, but cross, so bigger cross.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
But there's so so many serious things that are taking place,
and and it's like, how do we You're an extrovert.
I'm an introvert. Those of us who are introverts who
stay in a loop. You know, we're processing and we
can't see the forest, but the tree, what do we do?

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Yeah? Well, doctor, you know when you well, you know
what they say, you know, if the doctor has a
himself as a patient, they have a fool for physician.
That's so true.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
But I've never heard that before.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Oh my doctor. Yeah, I think that if you just
stay in your head and you just loop and loop
and loop and loop and loop, and you're not making
any movement, you know, I think you're shooting. You're doing
yourself a disservice. And if you're an introvert, you still
have a friend or two, you know that you can

(37:57):
reach out to, you know, honestly, you know, there's always therapy.
You know, when I was going through hating my primary
care practice and I was a miserable, miserable person, two
of my friends sat me down and said, look, you
were just intolerable and you're unhappy and we're done. You know,

(38:21):
you were not one of them, and they said, go
to therapy and figure out something. Go to therapy because
this has to stop, you know. And I am so
grateful to them for slapping me out of it, because
I was in that loop and I was going nowhere, nowhere.

(38:42):
I was miserable and angry and hurt and all this stuff,
and they just it was like they just snapped me,
you know, and said, snap out of it. And and
I think that that, you know, that's what we have
to do.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
We have to mack.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Ourselves out of it and then get help, get to
your friends, you know. I mean, we can have our
pity party for a minute, and that's fine, and I
get that, and and and and please, folks, don't think
that I'm saying that this is just some easy thing

(39:21):
and you just snap your fingers and it happened. No,
I am not saying that at all. What I am
saying is that that to get yourself going, you cannot
stay in that miserable loop in your head. You have

(39:41):
to you have to shift that the your mindset and
recognize that Okay, this too shall pass, and I will will, yeah,
and I will. I am going to attract something better.

(40:03):
But you can't do that if you're in that loop
and you're just spiraling down. So you have to own
that and then say you know, enough's enough.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
And I also think that you know there is what's
going on in the world, and then there's me right here,
this moment, right this moment where you know, how am
I feeling, how am I doing? Am I in any danger?
You know, and recognizing that Okay, I'm here and I'm okay,

(40:36):
and I'm mad, I'm safe, and there's stuff going on
out there, and so much of it beyond our control.
I think we get in trouble when we fight against
things we can't control. Man, it's like banging your head
against the wall. Yeah, you know, So we have to

(40:56):
turn inward, get calm, and I think, you know, when
you can access your full cognitive powers, you know, then
you can seek some solutions for what's going on. And
you know, and perhaps you know someone that you can
talk to that has ideas, or they have connections. They

(41:18):
they could maybe help you find a new job or
whatever it is. But it's very hard to think clearly
if you are just down in it. And that's what
we're talking about, getting, like you said, getting grounded, getting centered,
so that you can think more clearly and and and

(41:42):
make some progress, some motion. And it's not saying you're
going to solve the problem, you know, you know in
twenty minutes, but I promise you. If your brain is
just stuck in that muck, yeah, you're not going anywhere.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
You're not You're not my job. My brain tends to
go through that processing like what's working the analysis. You know,
I may go into my introvert mode, but I'm an analysis, Like, Okay,
I've got this piece here, this piece here, this piece here,
this piece I can't control. So let me go back

(42:17):
to one and two that I can control what's working
what's not working. And it may take me a couple
of weeks before I finally say, okay, this feels right.
But if my brain were just looping, I mean, if
it was something and we've certainly had those times with
me before, especially in relatingship. Business is very logical, you know,

(42:39):
business I can work my way through, but if it's
a relationship issue, I will loop. I will loop. And
those are the times when you really do need to
reach out and get some honest feedback. And it may
not be the feedback you want, it's what the back
you need, just like what you got. You know, you've

(43:00):
got slapped up sideways with.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
My friends. Yeah yeah, so you know, and you need
friends like that in your life. You need people who
will call you out on your stuff. Yep, keep you honest, Yep.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
It's so critically important. It really is. When when we
look at grounding and we were talking about exercise and
and drinking lots of water and protein for medium health
being around eating healthy drink. But you know, sleeping can
be a challenge if you're really stressed about stuff, you know,

(43:41):
it can be a challenge. And recommend people take something.
Uh is it okay to take an herb? Is it
okay to get well?

Speaker 3 (43:50):
I know, yes, you know it's you know, Western medicine
is camera okay, and you don't always need a hammer,
but sometimes you need a hammer, you know. Right, you
have a heart attack, you need the hammer because you
need somebody to go in there and get those blood

(44:11):
vessels opened up and keep your heart muscle from being damaged.
So if you are just not sleeping, if you just
can't get out of this this loop and you're just
anxious and immobilized, well, then yes, you know, I think

(44:31):
that we have to get away from this Western medicine
or other you know, complimentary medicine whatever. It's all medicine,
and it has its place. Like what we have to
get away from is that that there's a pill for everything.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
So okay, when when we come back, folks, let's let's
talk about the positive steps we can take in facing
challenges in our life and finish up with that because
doctor Hall always has awesome information on that. So we'll
be right back. We'll catch in a minute.

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Speaker 4 (47:50):
Hey everyone, thanks for being with us today. Thanks for
all the times you listen, whether it's live, whether it's
by internet somewhere around the world. We just thank you
so much for being a part of our show and
being with us, and and love your comments and input.

(48:11):
You know, I send that at Patty C at pattyconkline
dot com and Patty's with an I. So for Vanessa,
let's let's look at the steps that we can take
to be in a place where you know, we can sleep.
I mean I have to take sleep mints, and you
and I probably went through thirty different.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Different Oh my gosh. I tried everything.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
I mean we did, and and so the one thing
we found that works for me and people are going
to go. But the one thing that I have found
that has worked consistently for the last twelve years. Is
xanax Is is one milligrams for you?

Speaker 3 (48:53):
Yes for me?

Speaker 4 (48:55):
And the thing is yeah, but that here's the key.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
You don't use it all all the time. No, you
can't use that drug off timb right. It's a short
term thing, but it's very effective for a lot of people.
But understand that it's not the fix.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
No.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
If it's not, it's well, it's it gets you over
the hump because sleep is such an important piece to
your well being to be able to think clearly, to
be able to motivate, to take action. And so if
sometimes you need you need allopathic Western medicine to get

(49:35):
you through, you know. But the point here is that
you're using it for a specific purpose for a limited
amount of time, and then you're doing the other things
to help yourself and emphasise, is a great thing to
help you sleep at night. That's okay, it.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
Is it is, And think that it's under nderstanding what
our anxiety is. Your your dear friend Aquita, you know,
she finally identified I mean, after doctors and you know
you and I talking at nauseum for years, finally realize
that I have anxiety sleep I can remember so clearly

(50:21):
at Lake Lucerne, if if if three doors up, if
if Carol and Orville's light came out there outside light
at two o'clock in the morning, I would instantly be awake,
like what what go on? So so you know, I
think that you know, it's identifying what's taking place with you.

(50:43):
So yeah, that's you know, and my son certainly went,
you know, is she getting addicted to it? And it's
like if I just take it once to day, you know,
and it gets me through my anxiety. But when we
look at other things that are creating anxiety in our life.
Because I'm not an anxious person, you know, not, I'm not.

(51:04):
I'm not an anxious person, so I don't need that,
but I do need the grounding. And I can't always
be living on a cruise ship. I can't be sitting
out of my Yeah, you have.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
A sauna, r sauna sauna, I mean, because we spent
a lot of time in that thing. You know. We
all have the things that we know that comfort us.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
You know.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
I love to get massages, you know. I mean that
to me is just like my my just go to place.
But you know, these are things that that cost money,
but there are so many things that don't. I mean,
just going to the park. Is the park up the
street and in the springtime, it's just so beautiful and

(51:54):
I'll literally go to the park at lunch time and
lie down on the bench and jump up at the
sky because it's so ooh and beautiful. I mean, I
think you have to find your thing, you know. But
if you are just you know, if you just can't
pull yourself out of it, then you need to get
some help. I mean, sure, there's no shame in needing help,

(52:17):
and you know so, and there's so many I mean,
nowadays you have therapists that you can, you know, meet
with virtually and it's not that expensive, you know, And
if that's where you are, that's what you need to
do it by all means do it, you know. And
certainly for the X support groups, I mean there that

(52:38):
kind of stuff. But why absolutely is there any one
food that really helps calm us down or grounds us
a food that you can calm you down?

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (52:54):
I mean I can specifically at the top of my head,
a particular food. But I would just say, you know, again,
avoid the alcohol, avoid the sugar, avoid the caffeine, and
you know, they're stimulants. They tend to you know, jack
people up with you're already anxious. That's not going to

(53:15):
be helpful, and you know, and a lot of times
that's what people do. They reach for the caffeine because
they didn't sleep well at night, and then they crank
the caffeine and then they're not sleeping well at night,
and it's like, well, is it the caffeine? You know?

Speaker 4 (53:28):
Right right?

Speaker 3 (53:29):
I think it's a time, like I said, for self
care and really you know, doing those healthy things they
need to do. Yeah, yeah, and for you yeah right, yeah,
because you know I love massages. I know the people
that don't like massages at all, I don't understand it,

(53:51):
but they don't. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I wasn't going to
say that, but but yeah, but Patty, it's still gets
back to our theme, the underlying maybe we should have
called this show personal responsibility, because we always get back
to that. You know, you are going through a hard time.

(54:14):
You are the one in charge, yeah, and you need
to do what you need to do to get yourself
out of it. But what you know, what we started
off with at the beginning of the show is you know,
getting Mayer down in the depression and the anxiety and
the stress of everything, it doesn't help you think and

(54:40):
see clearly. Right, So getting grounded, like you said, and
making the effort and taking making a commitment to doing
things to help ground yourself. Whether that's seeing a therapist
or you know, you know, jogging three miles or whatever.
It is, anything that can help you fully tap into

(55:04):
your your cognitive thinking mind. That's where you can solve problems.
That's where you can see opening. That's where maybe you
can see the cracked window when the door closed. If
you I see those things if you are just deep
in it. And so I think that's the takeaway message

(55:25):
that when the poop hits the fan, you know, self
care is paramount and getting off the hamster wheel and
you know, sitting and being quiet and just just calming
everything down so that you care, I think clearly, and
so I would then seek to help you need.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
I would add to that though, start a routine before
everything hits the loft, you know, before before the major stuff.
Start to start a routine every day that you go
into that makes you feel good, that makes you feel positive.
So when the crap does hit the fan, you're in
a routine, maybe you increase it, maybe you add in

(56:10):
a few other things for your use to the routine,
because if we're not in routine, it's really hard for
us to stay on point as always. Folks, thank you
for joining us Vanessa, Love you.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Dearly and love you.

Speaker 4 (56:26):
You have next week, I guess before you go.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
On baking, I have a guest.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
You have a guest next week?

Speaker 3 (56:32):
Yeah? Yeah, good, so it'll be a.

Speaker 4 (56:38):
Good tune in. Thank you so much everyone, have a
great week and FORNESSA will be back next week. See
you soon, okay, bye,
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