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00:00 Intro
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01:10 Retail buying big tech
03:30 Data Center Takeover
04:00 Altimeter Capital CEO: This is 10x the Manhattan Project
05:45 Tim was wrong
07:15 Total crypto chart
11:00 Trump sentiment over?
14:45 Is the top in?
16:00 2021 vs 2025
17:50 BNB vs HYPE
23:00 Most bullish token for Q4?
25:20 Solana analysis
25:15 Sui analysis
30:00 Do not use leverage
31:00 Still bullish on $AVAX?
34:00 Bear market conditions
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Are we nearing a crypto bounce and is this market
setting up for another move? We'll break it down for
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(00:43):
I want to bring in Tim Warren. You guys have
seen him on our show before. How are you Tim doing?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Good? Paul good to be back.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yeah, If you guys haven't checked out Tim's videos, you
can do so over on Tim Warren Trades on YouTube
right there, and he's back on the channel. So I
know that there was some things going on, so but
good to see that you were back in action there.
Hey listen, Tim, let's get into the markets in general.
I want to cover a few macro points with you

(01:12):
and then get your opinion on where you think, you
know kind of the market is these EBB and flows
are occurring. Stocks shocking stat of the day, this was interesting.
Working Americans now allocating an average of twenty three hundred
and fifty eight per year into MAG seven stocks, So
this is coming seventy one percent of four to one
contributions totally, about eighty five hundred are going into actuities equities,

(01:36):
and then you got the MAG seven that's accounting for
almost forty percent of the S and P five hundred.
So we kind of know some of these things, but
this represents a large amount of capital moving into the
big tech you know, gatekeepers so to speak. Now, my
question is do you think we're on the verge of
possibly seeing a rotation to where some of these investors

(01:58):
would go be going in to big crypto gate keepers, Bitcoin, ethereum,
XRP Aalana. What's your thought on that?

Speaker 2 (02:07):
I think so when we say soon though soon is
the relative term. We're talking about next week, probably not,
we're talking about the next couple of months. Maybe I
could honestly see it being a little bit into twenty
twenty six that that happens. And part of the reason
why it is because, Paul, you know this just like
everybody else. If I'm a newer investor, I've never invested
in this type of asset class before. Am I more

(02:29):
likely to invest in it when it just fell a
decent amount or after it hit a new all time high?
You and I both know the best time to buy
is after the dip. That's not what newer investors understand.
So I still think that even what happened this past
weekend was it's clear it was coordinated in some way.
The question is who the culprit is. But I think
there's still a big move coming from larger institutions. And

(02:52):
then once we hit new all time highs, the selling
point for Blackrock to keep some of their ets for
these banks that are now going to start using crypto
in the four to one k outlets, it's easier to
sell it at that point. Right right now, it's not
so easy to sell stocks though, you know, what's easy
to sell right now? Those maent seven stocks are performing
very well. Easy to sell gold just hit forty two hundred,

(03:15):
a prediction we made here on this channel with you,
that's really easy to sell right now, even though common
sense actually says go at the assets not performing well.
But I think I could take a little bit before
we get a massive inflow from new users in their
four to one case.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Well, one thing that we'll play into this, Matthew Siegal
kind of hit on this is all of this investment
that's coming into the surrounding tech center. So this is
a I don't know if it's a concern for crypto,
but in general if you think about liquidity and where
people are going to be pointing to. What he's talking
about is Macquarie, who is selling the aligned data centers.
It's another forty billion, So all that's happening. Hey, I

(03:52):
want to play a clip for you. This is the
Altimeter Capital CEO talking about this very thing and the
moment this represents or US innovation.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Take a look, maybe to just provide some context here,
the Manhattan Project was four billion dollars. You inflation adjusts
that that's forty billion. It was one percent of GDP.
So if you take one percent of GDP, that's three
hundred to four hundred billion, okay. And that was a
government funded project that had a big impact on the economy.

(04:23):
The compute buildout that's going on now is ten x
the Manhattan Project with no government funding, all privately funded
by deals like the one you just heard announce, right.
So this is a when you think about the tailwinds
in the economy right as we head into twenty twenty six,
think about the stimulus of now a ten x Manhattan Project.

(04:45):
Then we have this massive reindustrialization investment. You heard JP
Morgan yesterday, a trillion and a half dollars. You heard
Stillantis today talk about their thirteen billion dollar investment. Besin's
talking about it at the White House today. A massive
reindustrialization build out on the back of trillions from the
Middle East, five hundred and fifty billion from Japan, et cetera. So,

(05:05):
and then you have this deregulation in the m and
a wave that's coming on. So I think there's a
lot of tailwinds for this economy.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, it sounds like something that's hard to bet against
to short, that's.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Right, all right, So first of all, I want to
clarify everybody just you know, we don't just put talking
heads up there. We kind of give you a little
bit of a backstory. That's brad Gershner. This guy is
one of the biggest investors out there in VideA, Snowflake, Uber, Microsoft.
I mean, he's been out there a while. Okay, so
it's not like you. He's not talking his book. All right,
Let's just be clear. He's talking his book and what

(05:36):
he's talking about is infrastructure. But these guys do this
all the time in Wall Street, tim just like crypto
in reality. Let me go to this point right here
because I want to jump back over to a tweet
you put out, and I want you to explain this
first of all, because I know it's a little cryptic
here my crypto price prediction updates I was wrong. Explain
what you were talking about in this video. And this

(05:59):
kind of gets back in to this whole cycle thesis
that you're kind of going to hit it.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, you know, I would say one of my claims
to fame at this point, not that I would call
myself famous, but you know, I think people in the
crypto space are aware of who I am. You know,
I get reminded frequently. Aren't you the guy that said
that chainlink can hit four hundred dollars? Aren't you the
guy that said this? Aren't you guys said that? You
know I have put out price predictions in the past.
Every single price prediction I've ever done for long term

(06:24):
predictions has never been based on the charts. Even though
I'm a technical analyst, I always take a look at
what I think value wise a market cap could get to.
I examined tokenomics, I examine timetables, and I say, okay,
if at this point in time, where at this much
supply and coins and a market cap reaches this level,
this would be the price prediction I would give. So
that's where a lot of those levels come from. In

(06:46):
this video, I wanted to be clear with my audience. Listen,
I'm going to take back some things that I've said.
I'm gonna be very honest with you. Things have changed.
What has not changed is I still believe someday and
I think it's still possible in twenty twenty six, but
I'm not certain. I still think someday in the next
couple of years, Chainlink will be about four hundred dollars.
I still think that Bitcoin will go well above two
hundred thousand. I think that Ethereum is going to be

(07:07):
pushing closer towards twenty thousand dollars. But I have no
idea when and when you look at the volatility and
chaos we've seen, the markets look completely different than they've
ever looked for crypto before. And I'll take a quick
look on my chart here. I'll share my screen in
that video. You guys can go watch it, and there's
some other nuggets in there as well. But I kind
of address the fact that what crypto markets have been

(07:29):
used to, at least dating back here to twenty fifteen,
right after the twenty thirteen bull run, we had our
nice year long bear bear market. We had some choppiness
in price action. Yeah, we had a couple of volatile moves,
but for the most part after accumulation phase, once we
got through it, it was a major explosion into the
top of twenty seventeen for a three year cycle, followed

(07:51):
by the one year bear market four year cycle. Okay,
then in twenty nineteen twenty twenty, there was a little variation,
but I would still call this entire period, even with
this big round dolly. This was the accumulation zone. We
got two chances to buy cheap bitcoin, cheap crypto, and
then we had our major explosion. You have some volatility
over the summer, but for the most part, one big

(08:12):
major move that is not how this bull market has
looked whatsoever. You can see very clearly dating back to
the lows of twenty twenty two, we've had several choppy movements,
bear market over come back down, Bitcoin e TF come
back down, a lot of fud. Oh Donald Trump's president,
He's gonna be so good for crypto, right. Oh, actually
he has tariffs. Let's cool back off and now Oh

(08:33):
regulation and FED rate cuts are coming. Let's pump again.
Oh wait a minute, more Fed tariff news, or not
fed tariff news, more tariff scares. This volatile shoppiness is
unlike anything crypto has seen before. And while I still
believe again all of my price predictions because they are
based on market cap not technical analysis, I'm not saying

(08:54):
that I don't think those prices happen eventually. But what
I am gonna say is I think that before we
get to those levels, I'm not gonna be surprised whatsoever.
We see crypto continue this extremely choppy upward movement to
the upside. I don't see a major bear market coming
anytime soon because every single thing that's causes the pullback
has always been more fud waiting for the next great

(09:14):
level of news. But as a trader, I'm no longer
just gonna sit around with my all coin bag, especially
when there's probably gonna be several more fifty to sixty,
maybe even some coins seventy percent pullbacks between now and
those high price predictions. I'm gonna be more aggressive in
taking profit and looking to buy dips. So I'm gonna

(09:36):
kind of move my focus from trying to say, hey,
where's the top of the ball market too more saying hey,
what does the next leg look like? How high can
we get? Boards time to take profits, get that dry
powder on the on the sideline to buy that fifty
percent dip, and then we'll keep going. Because for your cycle,
in my opinion, still is it's over, it's dead, it's gone.
We've now entered something new, and it's the institutional chaos

(09:58):
of shaking out that the lunch money from the kid
on the playground. They're going to be volatile, They're gonna
give us months of good news, months of bad news.
I'm gonna trade it. I'm gonna trade it instead of
just hoddling all my al coins that long.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
All right, Well, that's definitely a different position, I think
than what most crypto has been looking at for quite
some time. Outside of the traders in the market who
are much more you know, into swing trading and even
day trading on crypto, of course, many of those are
leveraging up and those are the ones that got wrecked.
So everybody has to kind of frame that into your
own not financial advice, but you have to frame that

(10:31):
into your own strategy that works for you. Speaking of
that bit wise CIO Matt Hogan, he calls last week's
historic crypto flash crash a blip, not a structural shift,
stressing that core fundamentals still remain intact. And I think
the real question is the Trump trade starting to fade?

(10:53):
And what I mean by that is if you look
at all of the things that have been happening around
the Trump token in general. And I won't go on
I'm going to jump to that. I want to jump
to that topic because we'll get into bitcoin in a second.
But when you look at the potential Trump trade. I'm
just looking at the Trump token here, all right. This
was almost a fifty dollars high, was right at fifty almost. This,

(11:15):
of course is retraced down almost ninety percent. Okay, this
is a Trump token, guys. And then you look at
the potential rumor and speculation, high speculation that it was
an insider trading on all of this activity, many people
saying could it be Baron Trump? Many people looking at
could it be someone in the Trump administration. There's a

(11:37):
lot pointing out insider trading here. Okay, Now, this has
been going on, we see it in DC all the time.
It's known, but it's known, you know of where that's coming.
This is a little bit shadier, a little bit darker
because it's crypto guys. We're talking about a global market here.
What do you think about that in terms of are
we seeing the Trump sentiment fade from a crypto perspective.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
I absolutely think that's the case that has to be
taken seriously. I mean, I think you're going to have
some people that aren't involved in crypto whatsoever who are
going to continue to worship everything Trump does. It's a
very real statement whether you're a conservative or liberal. There
is clearly a maga cult movement in the United States
that just he can't do any wrong. On the crypto side,

(12:21):
he at one point was the savior. I mean, look
at every cryptocurrency in November when he won the election,
everything skyrocket. He was supposed to be the darling. And
while there have been some ups, I mean, clearly Bitcoin
is higher than when he took office. Sure almost everything
else is lower. It maybe not Atheroreum or B and B,
but that's a different conversation than yourself. Almost everything else

(12:42):
is down. I do think that a crypto infatuation with
Trump is wearing off. As far as the conspiracy over
the weekend, I think it's really hard to pinpoint and
say we know who it is. Obviously Baron or Eric
or Donald Junior are going to be the main targets
people look at, and it possibly was them. Here's what
we know. Ninety nine point nine percent chance someone in

(13:04):
the White House, whether they were had the last name
Trump or they simply are on his staff, absolutely weaponized
that information in coordinated attacks with probably several other individuals worldwide.
They took advantage of a loophole in Binance Exchange where
there was that little blip where they could take it was.
It wasn't one person, it was several. And whether it

(13:25):
was one or two or ten, there were people in
the White House absolutely a part of that team. It's disgusting.
I would like to think hopefully it was not an
actual Trump who's doing it, But at this point I'm
open to any person. I just hope justice is carried out.
I hope investigation happens, which probably won't. But what happened
was disgusting. And yeah, I think the love infatuation with

(13:46):
any crypto person and Trump is at best fading and
at worst it's it's over.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
It's over. Yeah. Well, speaking of that, because I'm in
agreement with you, I think we are at that kind
of a a little bit of a cross now. I
think we've been faked out so much here in terms
of believing that this administration was going to kind of
resurrect the idea around it. Now. Granted, there's been a
lot of good things that have happened. I mean, just

(14:12):
the SEC moves alone is going to be good, but
it's mostly good for institutions, let's be honest. And then
if you look at what the Clarity Act could be.
This is going to be good for big business. Some
traders may win this. But I agree with you. I
think we're in a different kind of trading cycle of
no longer trying to hoddle through to these blow off

(14:33):
tops and looking at these opportunities of buying dips and
rotating out much earlier with profitability. But you've got this
issue happening with bitcoin right now. By bitcoin, this is
not this is reference to searches out there have not
reached the highs of twenty seventeen or twenty twenty one.
So tim is bitcoin done for this bull run? Because

(14:57):
we've been trying to you think, where do you think
we are?

Speaker 2 (15:00):
See? The argument would be said there like, here's the
reason why people are upset about it. If you believe
in the four yar cycle, therefore right now slash pretty
probably two weeks ago, you really should be at the top. Yeah,
I understand it. It's all about worldview. What map are
you looking at? What's your understanding of how this stuff works?
If you are a die hard four your cycle believer,

(15:23):
then you're crushed right now. Not only is price not
where you want it to be. We never got a
true all coin season. And yeah, you look at those dates,
you say, oh, oh we're in trouble, Bitcoin screwed, or
you could look through it through the lenses that I
look at it and say the four your cycle is
over and done. In fact, that chart that some people
make UTI likes to say we're in trouble, I would

(15:43):
say that's the proof we're nowhere near the top because
we don't have the massive euphoria of new retail investors
looking to buy bitcoin. Yet Bitcoin is still significantly higher
than it was back in twenty twenty one. I do
it as a positive. I'm a cup half full person.
Others are cup half empty kid too.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
But I also remember twenty twenty one was very adamant
about getting to that one hundred k. Then when we
had China come in banning bitcoin, everybody was on the
one hundred k tribe, and of course we got shorted out.
Now and that's the real question is is that one
point fifty now the new you know window that will
never reach around bitcoin? And what we're seeing right now

(16:21):
is waffling because that's that's going from the sixty to
seventy k.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
HI.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
If you look at twenty twenty one in comparison.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
I see it different, Paul. Again, I was on the
one hundred k train in twenty twiney one as well.
Here's the dirupt the twenty twenty one market. And I
think I've said this on your show before. Twenty twenty
one was the season of they fight you, Right, there's
that saying. At first they ignore you, then they laugh
at you, then they fight you, and then they join you.
Twenty twenty one was when institutions flooded and manipulated and

(16:53):
put it top on bitcoin. Now they're still manipulating it,
but the next phase is they join you. Look at
the adoption coming then institutions. I don't think that they're
going to stop us here short again. In fact, I
think what you're looking at the manipulation is more like
a let's keep it low so we can accumulate as
much as possible so that when it takes off, there's
as little retail investors still in it as possible. We've

(17:16):
convinced them to go other places, and then we get
to reap all the rewards of that booming bull market
when that's going to be how high it's going to
be again, That's where my video the other day is
kind of saying I'm done trying to pinpoint the top
of the bull market the same way we could pinpoint
tops in twenty twenty one or twenty seventeen or twenty thirteen.
I'm more saying the cycle change has been completed. We're

(17:37):
in a whole new market now. It's about watching and
saying this is the right time to buy, and this
is the right time to sell. And if you just
want to hoddle on, hoddle on and don't pay attention
to the news, just.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Hold Yeah, speaking of that, you had hyper liquid going
at being or going at binance again, there's no listening fee,
no listing department, no listing gaykeeper, spot deployment, hyper liquid permissionless.
You know, they kind of reiterating their strength right then.
You had a course cz coming right back at it,

(18:08):
you know, unpopular opinion post on listing fees. Saw this
a few times recently. If you're on a project complaining
about listing air drop fees, et cetera, don't play it.
If your project is strong, exchanges will race to list
your coin. So he's kind of going the whole anti
hyper liquid route here, and it seems to be a
little bit of a battle here between the two. Obviously

(18:28):
we know where B and B is. Now, if you
look at the chart, B and B flipped XRP over
this little move that we saw over the last ten days.
Where is B and B going from here? And I
think the guys just shouted out in the research room
that B and B might be getting listed on coinbase?

(18:48):
Is this true?

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Guy?

Speaker 2 (18:49):
From what I understand, that's official. I think that's I
think that's dead has gone. Yeah, that's accomplished. So yeah,
I mean, so let me start off by saying, with
all this stuff were talking there, of course there's that
little new coin called Aster, which is a direct competitor
that B and BE created to hype. So of course
there's going to be some chaos there. You know, when
it comes to Binance, it's one of those things. I

(19:12):
think I've come to a relationship with Binance and CZ
and anyone associated with it. It's it's the devil you
know is better than the devil you don't know. Okay, Right,
So there are manipulators and crazy people out there that
we have no idea who they are, their names, what
they do. We know, we know Binance, we know cz
We know their tactics. We've gotten used to them. So

(19:34):
when you're used to them, yeah, they're manipulating the markets.
It's pretty obvious when you look at the stock of
B and B versus the rest of the crypto space
they're doing something very fishy to make sure they win
and other things lose. But at least you know it,
at least you understand the process and the game plan.
They're not really hiding it. I mean they're not gonna
they're not going to come out and say, yeah, guys,

(19:55):
we're manipulating the market. But it's pretty obvious they are.
When I look at this B and B chart, This
this was my first level. Did not I think we're
gonna get here this fast you're speaking of. I just
gave a bunch of price predictions. My low level price prediction.
I gave three, you know, a while ago, I did
like worst case scenario, average scenario, and then like an
extremely bullish scenario for different coins on B and B.

(20:17):
My worst case scenario was twelve seventy two, give or take.
That's what we just got to here last week. I
did also have three thousands of very interesting one and
then kind of a very crazy bull run for them
fifty seven hundred. What I'm most intrigued by, though, is
this look at this movement right here compared to where

(20:38):
if I were to go over and take a look
at bitcoin. Just pay attention to what this chart looked
like from back in March of twenty twenty four. Nothing
like what Bitcoin looks like bullish, I mean, higher highs,
but you act to March of twenty twenty four. Very different.
Take a look at Ethereum during that time frame here
March of twenty four very different, no big dropout. Take

(20:59):
a look at things like slink, very very different when
you zoom in and you look at more smaller time periods.
This is the one that really gets a lot of
my attention is what's happened here the last couple of
months where Bitcoin definitely has been trading sideways. He's been
trading sideways, but B and B just continues to rip
to these new all time highs. This reminds me a
whole lot more of this chart, and of course we

(21:20):
talked about it earlier. That's gold. This is the gold
chart here. B and B is in a world of
its own at the moment, and there are some things
I'm watching Paul that would say, if you were trading
B and B and you want to take some profit,
I think it was a good time to take profit
last week. One of the reasons why is because you
are starting to see a little bit of the money
flow starting to round over. We're extremely high on our

(21:43):
osclators here, meaning we're over bought. On the daily chart.
You do get a little bit of a bubble here
that does suggest a pullback should be in order. Red reversal,
bearish divergence, barish fromentum. And then I think I've said
on the show before that whenever I see that light
green on this luxago indicator, that's except yesive buyers, when
they leave, things can drop off. Could we see bidenance.

(22:04):
I'm not talking about a colossal crash or anything. I'm
just saying, could we see it come back to settle
at least starting back here on one thousand and then
we get that weekly sell signal. Could this week that
we just touched there, could we actually kind of revisit
and kind of be in that range as well? Or
I'm nine hundred dollars, that's where I would be looking
a one thousand to nine hundred dollars is where I
would be looking to reaccumulate binance. By this point, I'm

(22:28):
still bullish overall, and I still think binance controls a
lot of keys. This would not be surprised at this
point for this prediction I made earlier to still come
true when I don't know, I'm not predicting necessarily, just
a straight run up here. There's probably going to be
some more shoppiness in here, but not gonna be surprised
whatsoever if we do see BnB get up to that
three thousand dollars prediction I made probably eight nine months ago.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
All Right, so let me ask you this. Then let's
go into what you're most bullish on and we'll throw
in bitcoin and this is through the end of the year,
so bitcoin ethereum, and let's throw B and B and
XRP into the list, since that's the top four. Okay, Yeah,
of those top four, which one are you most bullish
on by end of year?

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah? I think each one of them has their own
case except for one, and I'll go ahead and put
one at the bottom. And I really don't like doing
this bottom because I like the coin I hold it.
I don't see a case, right, now for XRP to
be the leader of that pack, I think that they've
caught some more bad situations than good. Not saying the

(23:34):
coins over still the XRP as a bull run ahead
of it. I'm going to continue to hoddle mine and
trade it accordingly. But I look at the others. We
just got through it B and B is the devil.
You know, it's better than the devil. You don't know clearly.
It's a manipulated chart, but it's manipulated by some of
those powerful people in the crypto space, So how can
you bet against it? Then you of course have Bitcoin,
which is the top dog. You still have major interest

(23:57):
from institutions, you still have major in as this is
still digital gold, and people are watching gold at a
ridiculous all time high. It hit a level that we
predicted to get to all were about to see to
exchange flow over from gold into bitcoin. So you got
to get that one a case as well. I'm kind
of setting a stage here Ethereum though, is really hard
to root against that as being the most bullish one

(24:18):
because it was so stifled for most of twenty nine five,
but seems to have been unlocked here recently. You have
a lot of adoption coming in there. There were moments
last year people questioned would Ethereum be overtaken by the
likes of Ethereum and Sue and other Layer ones, And
it looks like Ethereum has kind of closed that door
saying nope, we are still king of the Layer one space.
We're the ones that every stable coin's gonna use. We're

(24:39):
the ones that every institution's gonna use. They seem to
be the hot kid on the block for the last
couple of weeks and months, and with us still not
really having an all coin season, I think we're still
in that phase where Ethereum is picking up traction. I
like B and B, I like XRP, I like Bitcoin.
I'm gonna say of those four, I'm most bullish on Ethereum.
I do think Ethereum still hasn't fully reaped the rewards

(25:03):
of what is making it special and how beloved it
is by the institutions. I could still see by the
end of year. You asked me, let's look back and
see which one I think I made most money on
with like an one thousand dollars investment. Right now, I'm
gonna go with.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Ethereum Ethereum on that, let's flip over to Solana. Okay,
they reclaimed the number one spot. This is in twenty
four DAP revenue among all chains, so they're back on
the top over hyper liquid Binance, and then of course
eth Solana's kind of in an unusual position. We saw
a dip under two hundred. I hadn't seen that range

(25:38):
in a while. Is this a token that you feel
like still has a lot of upside or would you
trade out of Solana and move it into Ethereum.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
No, I mean, I absolutely still see upside for Solana,
and I don't know if I trade out of let
me think it. I wouldn't trade out of Solana to
go into Ethereum. And the reason why is I think
that you'll see the market cap of Ethereum grow large
in Solana. But let me make sure I'm updated on
what that looks like. Ethereum's current market cap is four
hundred and fifty two billion versus Solana, even though it's

(26:07):
only at number six, it's a quarter of it. It's
at one hundred and six billion, right, so let's just
say four hundred billion is added to Ethereum versus only
two hundred billion is added to Solana. That still means
I got a better return on my investment for Solana.
These are similar tools, but in some ways very very different.
It would almost be like trying to compare Lamborghini versus Chrysler.

(26:31):
You're serving two completely different audience bases. The type of
person that buys Lambo isn't going to buy a Chrysler,
and the type of person that buys Chrysler is not
going to buy a Lamborghini. It's the same thing with
Ethereum in Solana. Ethereum is like the institutional technology that
is complicated, it's got some barriers with fees, but institutions

(26:52):
want to go that direction versus Solana. It's cheap, it's fast,
it's easy, it's it's the layer one of the people
market cap. If you're if the question chose which one
will grow more in market cap, give me Ethereum. But
if you're asking which one I'll make more money on
an investment today, I'm going to stick with the lower
market cap and go with Salon.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Go with Salona. Okay, all right, let's flip over. We
got two tokens left, and then one, of course is
Suey first in history. Again, big announcement by them in
announcing Suy RBA stocks. You can go and visit a
little bit about this with stocks RBA dot Io. Reason
this is big is this going head to head with
X stocks. We have the xdox guys on this week.

(27:30):
This is a big deal because now it's going to
compete directly with Solana. And if you go over to
the platform, I'll go over to the platform just to
kind of show you right there as Tasla Amazon, these
are the stocks that you can get into right there.
And of course Teesla is the number one out there
on X stocks. Could it be number one over here
on stocks RBA by now? But if you look at

(27:51):
the sweet chart, tim because it took a beating as well,
you know, like most all coins, how would you trade
this one right now?

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yes? A good question on a macro perspective. Right now,
it did something I do not like with losing a
trend line of very strong support right here that we
had since back in March April of twenty twenty five.
Let me let me look at some things here. I
actually have not traded Suie in the last little bit.
One thing I do like is it does look at

(28:21):
the money flow before this big crash on the weekly
was starting to flow back in. We did have a
green reversal dot that's come in. So we're we're on
a we're on watch right now for a weekly buy signal.
I think this is also one that did touch more
recently some pretty major yeah, some pretty major weekly support.
So we were even before the crash, we told our
audience if this support level at three twenty five is lost,

(28:45):
we told them to look out for like two seventy
two sixty. That's pretty much exactly where we're sitting right
now on that support. The question is going to be
for me, can I start to get some buy signals
on other timeframes like the daily that's not there just yet,
the twelve hour it's all there, it's kind of there.
Let me get a daily by signal. I'll feel a
lot better better about getting towards my weekly by signal.

(29:07):
And then all of a sudden, what we're looking at
is price levels of four seventy to upwards of five dollars,
and I would put that as a realistic possibility by
end of year. What would that percentage be if that
were to happen? Today, we're talking about almost a doubling,
about ninety percent increase in price action could soon you
go hire absolutely by end of year. But the way

(29:27):
I'd be training right now on a macro perspective, DCA wise,
I'd be buying this level right here. It is some
major support. But if you're telling me, Tim, trade this,
make some leverage place here, which again, be very careful
when you do it. I'm gonna be waiting to get
some confirmation from my daily chart that we're ready to
actually start moving before I do anything crazy with leverage. Again.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
There you go again, sounds like you've been doing a
little leverage place there. Tim.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
You know what's crazy, Paul, I was out of every
position when that crash happened. I cannot say the same
for every person in my community, which absolutely sucked. It was.
It was gut wrenchy, it was ruthless. But this is
why I teach people in my community. It's not just
stop losses. Stop losses are the first level of defense.
When you're leverage trading, you have to have them. But
what happened on Friday, the slippage was so fast it

(30:13):
didn't matter if you had a stop loss or not.
It went crazy so I tell people all the time.
If that's the first layer. The other thing is, let's
pretend you have one hundred thousand dollars in crypto. Do
not put one hundred thousand dollars into one leverage position,
even if you had a stop loss. I never my
entire training account is less than thirty percent of my
entire investment, And when whenever I'm active in a trade,

(30:36):
I'm never more in than like fifteen to twenty percent
of my trading account. And so even if I had
been in a trade, which I wasn't and that slipage
it hit me, I would have lost at worse five
percent of my total portfolio.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
So of these people are losing their entire portfolios out there,
so pretty.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Big, and it's heartbreaking. Some of the stories I read
over the weekend absolutely horrible, absolutely horrible for anyone who's
in lever trading. You got to learn that lesson moving forward.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah, for sure. Last question is are you still bullsh
on Avalanche? You look at the Avalanche chart. We saw
it completely crater during this Yeah, I think we're down
to seventeen or even on coinbase. Where would you place
Avalanche right now in terms of a by signal.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, good point. Let's go take a look at that one,
because there's another one that I bought dips. You know,
I bought avax back down here on the way back
up on certain exchanges. I was able to get it
back here at fourteen dollars. Where are we sitting right now.
Let's take a look here, kind of similar to other things.
You do have some bottomy signals. You do have some
major support that was touched on longer time frames. We

(31:39):
look at the weekly chart here really quickly. Yeah, we
came down hit some pretty major support there. The question
is going to be do we get the buy signals here?
You're not seeing the weekly chart give us confirmed by signals.
You do actually have still a positive money flow, but
at this point I want to see the momentum turnback green.
With that said, I do think there we have a
good case go bullish. I would be surprised though we

(32:02):
don't come back down a little bit on all cryptocurrencies here,
something we didn't talk about earlier. Bitcoin right now has
a little concern for me, and I think crypto until
until we see bitcoin dominance plummet, all coins are going
to follow Bitcoin pretty pretty closely. Right now one ten,
and you can see we bounced off earlier. Today one
ten is a very interesting and dangerous position to watch

(32:23):
because it's either amazing support that we were able to
bounce off and read reignite a bull run, or if
we lose it, this head and shoulders pattern suggests one
oh four is back in the cards. That's actually lower
than where we were the other day, and even worse
when you start to go out towards longer time frames.
Let me make sure I look at the right one here.
I think it's gonna be other the weekly chart, Actually,

(32:45):
excuse me, weekly chart. Weeks ago, we had cell signals
and we thought maybe they were canceled out, But at
the moment, with us being a spot of volatility and
anything's possible, there's still a cell signal on the weekly
chart with a target right now of one hundred thousand
dollars for bitcoin. Why am I bringing that up as
we're talking about AVAX, because ultimately, again, unless Avax, unless

(33:06):
all coins breakaway from Bitcoin and the bitcoin dominance plummets
back to like fifty five percent, you don't see these
coins slipping and getting away from there. So I'm still
on a watcher there. I don't know if I'm gonna
go all the way down there. I think fourteen to
fifteen dollars is still a potential target here for Avax,
despite the fact that we did have a good run.

(33:27):
We had a good trade here earlier we talked about
on your show. But right now there is a massive
transferring of wealth. Retail is scared, institutions want to buy
cheap for the next big bull run. Fundamentally, though nothing's
changed about Avax, They're still doing their thing. They're still
a great institutionally friendly layer one solution that has that
real asset kick to it as well. I'm still bullsh

(33:49):
on Avax. The question is where do I buy? How
low can we get?

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, I was listening to Ben Collen the other day
and he was talking about this. I think it was
the fifty week moving average that he was kind of
pointing in Zoni in on. It was around one hundred
to one oh two, and his concern was if we
lost that that essentially we would be entering the bear market.
That is his thesis. Would you agree with that if

(34:12):
bitcoin does lose that moving average, that we'd start to
enter the bear market.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
That's a very hard question. Still as a start off,
the analysis I did says that that's the support level.
So I don't think we will lose that whatsoever. As
far as what I think if we were to lose
it and we dropped below it, you haven't quite If
I show my screen, if we lose one hundred thousand
and we come down into the nineties, you haven't broken

(34:39):
the clear bullish structure of higher highs and higher lows, right,
So the structure gets broken if we drop below seventy
four thousand dollars. Now, of course, if you wait to
say we're to bear market un till we hit seventy
four thousand dollars, you've waited a pretty long time, and
you've missed out of a great opportunity to take profit.
I don't really want to say we're sure. Yes, I

(35:01):
do think that would be problematic to lose one hundred
thousand dollars. I do think it would cause some bigger questions.
But I go back to kind of what I've said
in the past, and it's this is clearly a different
market than we're used to. It's not the four year
cycle we're used to. The driver is no longer large
retail whales that have millions of dollars worth of crypto.

(35:21):
Now it's gonna be the institutions that are playing with billions,
some of them even trillions of dollars worth of assets
to play with. It's really gonna be on them and
what I'm seeing the news right now, there's so much
reason for them to accumulate low, not sell off low.
Come back to me, if we hit one fifty and
retail's going berserk and everything's bullish, could we see an

(35:41):
early top and that'd be the top of a bull market.
I'm willing to have that conversation. Okay, all right to me,
I think we're a manipular play. We're gonna have another
leg up, all right.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
I like it, Tim, We're gonna get you back in.
Of course, we're tracking this very closely because obviously the
market's being so volatile right now a lot of people
trying to figure out if this is still a bullish
trend or not. Wall Street is playing this in a
lot of different ways. Make sure and check out Tim's
channel over there again. Tim Warren trades right there on YouTube.
Check him out. Tell him we sent you, Tim. Thanks

(36:11):
for coming in today. Appreciate it absolutely. Thanks for having
me Paul. You bet are you Guys? Get in on
our group, which is the Diamond Circle. This is where
I put out a weekly email. We also give you
access to some additional tool sets that you guys can
use to kind of navigate this. But the biggest one
is really where I see the market going in terms
of some of the trades, but also some of the
macro indicators that are really starting to push into longer

(36:34):
term vision of how you should be looking at these markets.
So check it out. Link is always down in the
description and hit me out there on X at Paul Baron.
We'll catch you next time right here on the Paul
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