December 2, 2025 • 22 mins
Investor interest in precious metals has surged, partly driven by concerns over rising debt levels in major economies. Silver (XAG) is outperforming Bitcoin in terms of retail interest, breaking multi-decade records and prompting investors to explore a new frontier: tokenized silver.
~This episode is sponsored by Tangem~
Tangem ➜ https://bit.ly/TangemPBN
Use Code: "PBN" for Additional Discounts!
GUEST: Richard Boccius -Head of Communication & Growth at Denario Swiss
Buy Silver on Denario App➜ https://bit.ly/DenarioSilver
00:00
00:08 Sponsor: Tangem
00:53 Silver all-time High!
01:20 CME Halt Recap
02:39 Denario CEO Called-It
03:10 Silver Easily Heading to $100
06:25 Supply Shock Happening?
08:30 China vs Bitcoin
09:08 Tokenized Gold flipping Bitcoin?
10:14 Silver vs Gold
10:30 Tokenized Silver Market
14:29 Denario App Launching
16:09 Tether & Paxos Silver Incoming
16:45 People Demanding Tokenized Silver Now
18:20 Cross-Chain To Solana & XRP?
19:08 Gold Trending on Solana
19:30 Chain Reaction Catalysts
22:07 outro
#Silver #Crypto #ethereum
~Silver Going PARABOLIC!… and Tokenized Silver Could Take It Even Higher!🚀Denario INTERVIEW~
⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺
Join our community!
Barron Market Edge (FREE)➜ https://www.paulbarronnetwork.com/barron-market-edge-signup
Private Telegram Group (FREE) ➜ https://t.me/+nISqoMxrok40NTcx
Subscribe on YouTube ✅ https://bit.ly/PBNYoutubeSubscribe
X/Twitter 📱 http://bit.ly/PBNtwitter
Get official PBN merch! ➜ https://merch.paulbarronnetwork.com/
~ The Best Self Custody Wallet ➜ https://tangem.com/en/ Use Code PBN for Additional Discounts!
~ The Best Crypto Exchange ➜ Coinbase, get up to $200 in crypto - coinbase-consumer.sjv.io/BARRON
~ Looking for the best tax havens for Crypto? Free Month with iTrust Capital ➜ Use PROMO CODE - PAUL BARRON https://rebrand.ly/PAULBARRON
~This episode is sponsored by Tangem~
Tangem ➜ https://bit.ly/TangemPBN
Use Code: "PBN" for Additional Discounts!
GUEST: Richard Boccius -Head of Communication & Growth at Denario Swiss
Buy Silver on Denario App➜ https://bit.ly/DenarioSilver
00:00
00:08 Sponsor: Tangem
00:53 Silver all-time High!
01:20 CME Halt Recap
02:39 Denario CEO Called-It
03:10 Silver Easily Heading to $100
06:25 Supply Shock Happening?
08:30 China vs Bitcoin
09:08 Tokenized Gold flipping Bitcoin?
10:14 Silver vs Gold
10:30 Tokenized Silver Market
14:29 Denario App Launching
16:09 Tether & Paxos Silver Incoming
16:45 People Demanding Tokenized Silver Now
18:20 Cross-Chain To Solana & XRP?
19:08 Gold Trending on Solana
19:30 Chain Reaction Catalysts
22:07 outro
#Silver #Crypto #ethereum
~Silver Going PARABOLIC!… and Tokenized Silver Could Take It Even Higher!🚀Denario INTERVIEW~
⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺
Join our community!
Barron Market Edge (FREE)➜ https://www.paulbarronnetwork.com/barron-market-edge-signup
Private Telegram Group (FREE) ➜ https://t.me/+nISqoMxrok40NTcx
Subscribe on YouTube ✅ https://bit.ly/PBNYoutubeSubscribe
X/Twitter 📱 http://bit.ly/PBNtwitter
Get official PBN merch! ➜ https://merch.paulbarronnetwork.com/
~ The Best Self Custody Wallet ➜ https://tangem.com/en/ Use Code PBN for Additional Discounts!
~ The Best Crypto Exchange ➜ Coinbase, get up to $200 in crypto - coinbase-consumer.sjv.io/BARRON
~ Looking for the best tax havens for Crypto? Free Month with iTrust Capital ➜ Use PROMO CODE - PAUL BARRON https://rebrand.ly/PAULBARRON
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
The markets are moving a little bit, and silver is
one of the catalysts that is starting to make a
historical all time high. We'll break it all down for
you today. You don't want to miss it. Let's just
jump right in. I want to thank our sponsor, and
that is Tangum. This is where you guys can get
into self custody in crypto and do a variety of
things including bringing your tokens in from your centralized exchanges,
(00:20):
dropping them into a self custody wallet. It's actually very
easy to do. All you have to use is our
link down below. It's going to give you a little
bit of a discount. And the nice thing about Tangum
is there's a lot of new features that they're launching.
One is their yield product. We would be able to
yield on some of your stable coins and also some
of your crypto. Also, they have a new credit card
(00:42):
or i should say debit card that's coming out to
where you'll be able to spend right from your Tangum wallet.
So check it all out. All of that is happening
right now. You can still get the Black Farady special.
I think it ends on the fifth, so check it out.
Let's go over to a couple of points I want
to get on before we bring our guests in today.
And this, of course is the top of silver, which
is soaring to fifty nine bucks for the first time
(01:02):
in history. It has broken all things. This is like
Bitcoin breaking out and going into discovery. This is exactly
what's happening with silver right now, and it's outpacing gold,
south pacing most of the SMP. We're starting to see
movement right now that is very aggressive in terms of
the growth. A lot of people are asking why. This
(01:23):
of course was one of the headlines. We had a
ten hour CME halt, and I want to go to
a clip that recaps a lot of what was happening,
because this created kind of almost a fudstorm both pro
and against. Take a look.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Trading was halted across many of the CME mark as silver.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
People came out and said, it's silver that broke the system.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I mean, you built infrastructure for thirty years, you know
how these data centers are built.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
It took them to a Sunday evening to go hold
on them and it punktuk tunk i became so you know, oops.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
It brought a lot of conspiracies out right to make fishy.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Could it be the powers? It be just pulled the
plug on the whole system while I try to sort
it out. You know, there is no way a quote
cooling issue can shut down the COMAX. Believe when I
say that that's impossible, it's complete bs.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Well, it also show you how weak our markets are.
If an air conditioner can bring down the market.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
A delivery of two billion dollars worth of silver, this
is large Shanghai rather suggests that the stands Ford delivery
was a Chinese origy.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Perhaps an Asian trader who wanted over four hundred million
ounces of silver. Give it to me. Well, all of
a sudden, the cooling breaks down over Thanksgiving and one
of the most thinly traded markets of US. But just
those servers broke down right.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
All right, So you can see a lot of fud
and a lot of speculation that this was an orchestrated event,
and of course silver is benefiting from that. We broke
this down with the Donari Team scenario team a.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Little bit ago.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
We had their ceoon breaking down what was going on
in the silver market. At that point, he felt like
we would see one more last dip before we saw
a resurgent to the high. He was actually right on
his estimation, So we wanted to bring in another member
of the Onnario team to kind of break this down. Richard,
how are you.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I'm very well today. Thank you Paul for having me on.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, let's get into a couple of points right here.
I'm going to go to your tweet right here, Ja,
this is an interesting one. JP Morgan supposedly moved its
entire comx gold trading desk from New York to Singapore
last Thursday. This is no confirmation from JP Morgan Bloomberg
Ruters of course officially filing as of Desimber. First, what
we do know JP Morgan has been expanding into Singapore
(03:31):
for years, Asian Neil now buying fifty percent of gold,
so a lot of activity with some of the major
market makers in general. What do you make of this
right now? Do you feel like this is a trend
that we're going to start seeing more of this kind
of activity.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I do believe so.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
But look, if we're talking about gold, I mean, look,
everybody in the world they want to get their hands
on this right now.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Same goes with Silva.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
We personally see way more potential upside for s and
I was CEO, I was just talking to him today.
He's looking at three digit silver, you know, in the
coming years.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Coming years. Okay, so the possibility and the acceleration. Actually,
I'm going to go over to the chart real quick.
I want to just jump over to our silver chart
and take a look at something. Because you look at
this run up right here, I'm on the daily This
is when silver was trading at about.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Third absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, so you're talking April of twenty twenty five right there,
within the year, and you've seen a run up here
from the bottom of that mark to where it's trading
right now. This is doubling in less than eight months.
So why would you think a couple of years if
this kind of activity is actually going on and we
haven't even seen digital and token is silver just yet.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, and that's exactly what we do.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I mean, that's going to give people, you know, such
easy access to silver, you know, and precious metals as well. Look,
it's just a conservative estimate because a lot of analysts
they like to make different predictions, and it's just so
something that we're very comfortable predicted to predict is that
you know, in the next couple of years, a three
digit silver is just it makes all the sense in
(05:08):
the world. There are just too many things on the
table right now. If we look at recently crypto inequities,
they've been super volatile dropping recently, while gold and silver
they've held up comparatively better. And this really shows their
role as a flight to safety as assets. And then
we've got you know, the structural silver storage things like
physical silver inventories, the COMEX, LBMA, Shanghai versus demand very
(05:33):
very typeite now. And then you know, just recently the
futures expiring showed a really strong demand for the physical
delivery relative to registered stocks, and so that's the kind
of backdrop for the three digit silver expectation in the
coming years. On top of that, we've got the industrial demand.
Something that I'm personally very bullish on is central banks
(05:54):
because Russia is really front running this. As you can see,
the Russian Central Bank is looking to and they've reaffirmed
that commitment to five hundred and thirty five million dollars.
I believe it's December seventeenth, nineteenth where we're going to
have more clarity on this but if we see the
central banks start aping into silver for their reserves, we
think that this is going to you know, really create
(06:15):
a momentum around the world. And then of course this
happened just after the US added silver to their precious
metals list, so we had absolutely every reason to be
bullish on silver right now.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
So you okay, So silver definitely pro obviously the supply
sides of this in terms of the shock that seems
to be hitting the system, The real question is this
a hulk? So are we seeing you know, manipulation because
in these kind of markets, these are kind of the
scenarios that traders are often looking at, especially with what
happened with Comax. What we saw for the weekend timing
(06:47):
was interesting to say the least, and of course now
silver benefiting from that. Do you feel like we could
see a major retracement on this?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
To be honest, anything is possible.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
What we're seeing right now is a lot of you know,
conspirae theories flying around. Some things they just don't add up,
like you showed them the clip, you know, cooling systems
going down and it just doesn't make sense. It feels manipulated.
But again, we don't have those official releases. It's very
strange that the news outlets particularly quiet on this, but
they've been particularly quiet also on China, you know, building
(07:20):
their reserves. I think only something like ten percent has
been officially reported. A lot of people are screaming about this,
but social media right now is very very noisy in
this way, and what we need is just more clarity.
But what we can see is this constant, huge demand
for both gold and silver, and together with our w
ways and tokenized assets, we feel extremely boodhish on this
(07:41):
because it's going to be able to give retailers incredibly
easy access. And you know, when we think about buying
gold bars and stuff like this, you know you need
to think about theft, storage insurance. Are you going to
have something that's fake, you know, tungsten that's sprayed with
gold and stuff like this. Whereas if we have tokenized
assets that are audited and verified, and then you can
(08:03):
move pretty freely around. As Michael Sala always says, try
to take gold bus through customs. They're going to automatically
assume that you stole this, and you know you're going
to get held up, and especially if you travel a lot,
that's incredibly problematic. You mentioned that at the beginning about tangent.
A big fan of tangum. I have one myself. By
the way, self custody is absolutely king and we can
(08:24):
just move around very freely and still have access to
all of the upside of precious metals, including commit.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Okay, so you you mentioned China for a second, because
I think this is something that a lot of people
are watching right now. They're blaming the US for quite
a bit of bitcoin in terms of a theft that
they had. Is this and of course China being very
pro gold, so precious metals in general. Do you feel
like this is just China's way of making a mark
back against the United States to continue to pressure into
(08:52):
precious metals.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, I think you summed it up perfectly. I couldn't
agree more. That's our stance as well.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Okay, when you look at because you're talking about everything
from token i's gold. We haven't seen a true tokenied
silver like that's tradable out there on the open market
outside of what you guys are doing. But you look
at xaut being tether tether gold, this of course being
one of the most popular starting to move dramatically. I
was looking at if you look at current volume right
(09:20):
now at bitcoin around seventy seven billion, then you could
jump over here eighteen billion right now on just xaut
So Token i's gold. Now you imagine if this could
happen on Token I silver. How close do you think
we are of companies coming to market with token I silver.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
You know, it's something that everybody wants access to, and
it's exactly why at decenario we are more focused on
silver specifically because of its upside it has, you know,
and the margins are way bigger as well as in
comparison with gold. Definitely gold at a thirty trillion dollar
market cap, you know, it's the largest asset in the world,
(09:59):
but we do think that the upside for silver is
just way more attractive for investorsing, and so that's why
we're specifically focused more right now on silver, although we
do offer tokenized gold as well.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
So you feel like silver is going to continue to
outpace gold in terms of growth right now, at least
in the near future.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yeah, exactly, And the gold to silver ratio, as we
can see, you know, it's closing.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, all right, So with that being said, those two
assets and a lot of people right now are holding
tokenized gold. You've got Peter Schiff launching that he's doing
a tokenized gold product. I think he's also possibly going
to be doing a silver product eventually. But I'm kind
of curious when you look at that along with what
you guys are doing, is there a market for that
out of traditional crypto investors that have been buying you know,
(10:49):
whether it's bitcoin, ethereum, Salona XRP, could they actually be
in the market for gold and silver if it's tokenized.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Absolutely, as we know Larry Think, is you know, going
more around the world. He's talking about tokenization, Larry think
because a winner. I wouldn't bet against that guy, And
what are they going to be tokenizing? Okay, stocks, bonds? Fine,
but it just makes just perfect sense. I think that
gold and silver, these are going to be the front
runners when we do have that adoption. We've got the
Genius Act, We've got the Clarity Act, and actually they
(11:19):
do provide the rails for the RWA that we would
all like to see.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I think gold is going to.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Be first, but everybody knows that there's more upside, more
potential upside. I just can't say that enough times for
silver and so I think that we're going to see
huge demand for tokenized assets of gold and silver.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
All right, So one of the points I was getting
at there, if you look back at the clip that
we played early, Yes, these are not typical people that
are on our show. These are have been silver bugs
that are coming out. How they would work now with
obviously silver flying And I think that's the question is
are we going to see just the group that has
been into silver all this time simply shifting over to
(12:00):
know whether it's a token is silver or a digital
silver of some format? Or would we see new market
entrants that are coming in from crypto? Because I'm thinking bitcoin,
do you think that gold kind of give you a
comparison here? Do you think gold could actually flip bitcoin
in terms of volume? I mean we saw it right there,
almost eighty billion versus almost twenty billion, and we're talking
(12:21):
about a movement right now where gold is I think
at forty two hundred right now?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Yes? Correct, Oh that's a beautiful question. I love this
one first and foremost. If we take a look this
cycle is very very different. If we just look at crypto, okay,
and the last cycle, what we saw is that people
could gamble on NFTs, but then they'd rotate them and
they just go down the risk cup. A lot of people,
you know, they for example, bought Ethereum Salona at the
(12:47):
very top and then they had to diamond hand it
all the way through the bear market. And what we're
seeing now a lot of people are waking up to this.
What are they going to do with their profits if
you do get out, you know, near the top or
something like this, are you going to rotate them into
l one coins or mean coins?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
And especially with this growing narrative of tokenization, people need
to understand inflation and a hedge against inflation. And if
you had DCA dolar cost averaged into gold and silver,
like you just said at the beginning of the year,
you know, it's up almost two x and this is
a very stable asset of where you're going to put
your profits. And that's what we'd like to see more
(13:27):
and especially with easy access if we take a look
at something like gold, A lot of people for average
retailers for example, and this is why I think we're
going to see a lot of demand from retailers. They're
going to have much easier access to tokenize gold and silver.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
A lot of retailers they think that, you know, gold.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Is something that's only for rich people, and to buy
and to store it, this is a complete pain. But
if you have tokenization and it has all of that upside,
it's a flight to safety, you know. I think people
are going to have very very easy access to this
and it will be somewhere that they rotate their profits
into comfortably as a hedge against inflation.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Well, we can up to inslation now.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Because exactly, I think the debasement trade is a real thing,
and we are seeing people under the age of forty
that have literally just detached from the financial system. But
to your point, yes, tokenization has really kind of changed
the way because I mean it's done it. We've been
able to do that in crypto, whether it's ethereum or bitcoin,
buying a fractional portion of those tokens now you can
do that obviously with some of these assets. I'm really
(14:28):
looking forward to seeing what you guys are doing when
you launch. So you are now launched on your platform,
I'm looking at that right now where you can buy
Denario silver and if you guys didn't watch our last video,
you can learn a lot more about Denario. Go back
to that video because their CEO kind of breaks down
a little bit about how you guys use industrial grade silver.
Part of that as the reserve asset for this. But
you can log on by DSc within it. What else
(14:53):
can I do in the platform itself?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Okay, So on the platform you can go in. It's
very easy to set up. There's no cave, I see.
All you need is an email address, a phone number
and you'll be able to get in. You are limited
to how much you can buy because we it's basically
a buffer. Yeah, so it's one thousand dollars. Yeah, that's
(15:16):
one thousand dollars per month. Yeah, one thousand dollars, can
get colors. That's what you can get right now. We
do want to have as we move forward, we are
going to have full KYC requirements, but it's right now
it's just because of the Swiss AML law threshold. If
it's well, it's actually one thousand Swiss francs and so
(15:36):
I think that's about one thousand, two hundred dollars, and
so that's the kind of limit per month. But what
we do have is a prefer and earn program, and
so it's really easy to understand.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
If you can just get on there, you'll take a
look at your dashboard.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
You get your own QR code, and for example, if
someone signs up using your code, then they get zero
point one, which is DSc the Denario Silver coin.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
And just as people buying, you.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Can accumulate as well, so actually you'll just be adding
to your stack of silver instead of getting paid in
you know, staple coins.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
All right, So okay, just what I'm seeing in the
market right now is if Tether or other major companies
go to market with a token I silver, this is
going to wreak havoc on your company. I mean, I'm
looking at XAUT, which is dominating right now. We've already
seen it. If you're you're maybe you're a tangent wall
(16:29):
or you can get x AUT right there on it
being able to trade in and out of gold like that.
Silver has been the missing link because we haven't seen
true token I silver coming in from a major player.
My ex estimation is we're going to see demands coming
at it pretty hard. I was looking at a couple
of tweets here, no Token I silver available right now.
(16:49):
This was one tweet out there, people are asking it,
what's token ied Silver's ticker. These are the kind of
things so there's estimation, or i should say expectation of
where to what can I Silver needs to come from?
What would it take for you guys to launch maybe
in a let's go move Denario to Asia, you know,
(17:09):
get something going here though, you guys can really advance
up in terms of tokenied silver definitely.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
You know, for example, Singapore is definitely a hot spot.
It's a market that we would like to explore. But
at the same time, the US. I think the US
is going to be a huge market for this as well.
And just as we get that tokenization trend going look
at the end of the day, right yes, xaut is
dominating right now. Number one, there's always room at the top.
Number two, we need it to be accessible for people.
(17:37):
And that's something because right now, the Denario silver coin
it's on Polygon. We're on the Polygon network and what
we'd like to do is find we're looking for another
home for the Denario silver coin. We are looking at
Arbitram as one of the candidates because Arbitram right now
they're getting into the RWA. They don't have any tokenized
gold and silver at the moment on there, and so
(17:58):
I think that we could be better positioned there. And
also if we could get some you know, kind of funding,
some help with marketing, I think that could really help
to push it and put this in a very good position.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Okay, So a couple of points I would hit on
is if you're shopping for chains, I would probably look
at Solana. Obviously, the community there would support something like this.
We've already started to see quite a bit of move
out there already, and I think when you look at that,
you could often if you're looking at communities, because that's
the key here, if you're looking at communities being able
to grow it. I'm just looking at your TVL right now.
(18:30):
This obviously a small TVL. You would have to grow
this dramatically. But maybe Solana or maybe even XRP would
be the kind of platform that would give you exposure
to a really large investor base of being able to
get it to the next level. So I don't know,
just something to think about when you guys are no,
we did.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
We've done a full analysis about this. We really broke
it down definitely. Solana was on the list.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
We hadn't put XP on that actually, but we did
have like arbitram optimism, and so right now we just
need to make that decision.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
But yeah, absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
The Solana ecosystem the very supportive and that could really
help give us a push as well.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I'm going to be watching it because you've got gold
over now on Solana, the tacker name where you can
get it, get tokenized gold over there available within that.
So I think this is going to be something to
kind of pay attention to in general. What price of
silver do you think we're going to see in terms
of the demand right now? You're saying that it's much
(19:29):
greater than what's happening with gold. Where is the window
that we see either parabolic moves or possibly a pullback.
What's kind of the forecast here for silver?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:43):
So for me, like I said, it's the Russian Central Bank.
They've already reaffirmed their commitment, like I said, five hundred
and thirty five million dollars that they're putting on the
table to start stacking silver. We're going to get clarity
about that. Like I said, I think it's December seventeenth
or nineteenth.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
That could be a.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Massive bullish catalyst for silver, because that's going to be
the first time a central bank is really adding silver
to their reserves. If that can create game theory, a
chain reaction, and then everybody around the world starts doing it,
then it's just a massive race is on and we're
just going to see that there just isn't there isn't
the supply to meet this insatiable hunger, this insatiable demand
(20:23):
for silver. And together with tokenization, that's really the next
step because that's what gives the accessibility and we're going
to start seeing that more.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
And we just need eyeballs on this, people to see
and to understand it.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
And then, like I've said enough times, hedge against inflation,
rotating profits and things like this, because people understand, now
if you're rotating your profits into the dollar, then you know,
just due to inflation and so forth, purchasing power, you're
just actually you're losing money.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Okay, those are the key. So you're saying, keep an
eye on central banks. Is there anything else that would
be a catalyst for this to grow in the near term?
We saw with this hoax on the CME and what
was going on over the weekend.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Yeah, if we see more manipulation like this JP Morgan
for example, you know, moving their gold around on the client.
If we see more things like this, this is of
course it's bearership creates fud in the market and people
start to panic. But when they panic, we see that
people fly to safety. So where you're going to rotate
your silver profits too? Okay, people could sell look to
you know, buy in a dip, but ultimately where you're
(21:28):
going to put your profits.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I'm going to track the Nation States because obviously we
had the move States Maloney, who of course is trying
to get control of her three hundred billion. This is
Italy's prime minister. There are a billion gold reserves, and
that would be interesting because this is the EU. It
starts to change things up dramatically in the EU if
we start to see control out of the ecb as
for some of these precious metals, especially calling delivery on
(21:53):
some of these things. So silver could play into this
whole situation that we're seeing, not only within the EU,
but as you mentioned, possibly even into some of the
other countries that are holding silver as one of the
key assets for their fund. So we're going to keep
a close eye on this. First of all, thanks so
much for coming in. We appreciate it. Good luck to
what you guys are doing over at Dinario.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Paul, hope you'll go through register, please get your own
referrable code.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
More than happy for you guys to be with us.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Thank you, all right, excellent, all right, you guys know
what to do. If you're not in our own private group,
make sure and jump in on that. It's the bear
Market ads. You can get that absolutely free. Just use
the link down below and of course follow me out
there on X at Paul Baron. We'll catch you next
time right here on The Paul Baron Show.
The markets are moving a little bit, and silver is
one of the catalysts that is starting to make a
historical all time high. We'll break it all down for
you today. You don't want to miss it. Let's just
jump right in. I want to thank our sponsor, and
that is Tangum. This is where you guys can get
into self custody in crypto and do a variety of
things including bringing your tokens in from your centralized exchanges,
(00:20):
dropping them into a self custody wallet. It's actually very
easy to do. All you have to use is our
link down below. It's going to give you a little
bit of a discount. And the nice thing about Tangum
is there's a lot of new features that they're launching.
One is their yield product. We would be able to
yield on some of your stable coins and also some
of your crypto. Also, they have a new credit card
(00:42):
or i should say debit card that's coming out to
where you'll be able to spend right from your Tangum wallet.
So check it all out. All of that is happening
right now. You can still get the Black Farady special.
I think it ends on the fifth, so check it out.
Let's go over to a couple of points I want
to get on before we bring our guests in today.
And this, of course is the top of silver, which
is soaring to fifty nine bucks for the first time
(01:02):
in history. It has broken all things. This is like
Bitcoin breaking out and going into discovery. This is exactly
what's happening with silver right now, and it's outpacing gold,
south pacing most of the SMP. We're starting to see
movement right now that is very aggressive in terms of
the growth. A lot of people are asking why. This
(01:23):
of course was one of the headlines. We had a
ten hour CME halt, and I want to go to
a clip that recaps a lot of what was happening,
because this created kind of almost a fudstorm both pro
and against. Take a look.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Trading was halted across many of the CME mark as silver.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
People came out and said, it's silver that broke the system.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I mean, you built infrastructure for thirty years, you know
how these data centers are built.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
It took them to a Sunday evening to go hold
on them and it punktuk tunk i became so you know, oops.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
It brought a lot of conspiracies out right to make fishy.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Could it be the powers? It be just pulled the
plug on the whole system while I try to sort
it out. You know, there is no way a quote
cooling issue can shut down the COMAX. Believe when I
say that that's impossible, it's complete bs.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Well, it also show you how weak our markets are.
If an air conditioner can bring down the market.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
A delivery of two billion dollars worth of silver, this
is large Shanghai rather suggests that the stands Ford delivery
was a Chinese origy.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Perhaps an Asian trader who wanted over four hundred million
ounces of silver. Give it to me. Well, all of
a sudden, the cooling breaks down over Thanksgiving and one
of the most thinly traded markets of US. But just
those servers broke down right.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
All right, So you can see a lot of fud
and a lot of speculation that this was an orchestrated event,
and of course silver is benefiting from that. We broke
this down with the Donari Team scenario team a.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Little bit ago.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
We had their ceoon breaking down what was going on
in the silver market. At that point, he felt like
we would see one more last dip before we saw
a resurgent to the high. He was actually right on
his estimation, So we wanted to bring in another member
of the Onnario team to kind of break this down. Richard,
how are you.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I'm very well today. Thank you Paul for having me on.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, let's get into a couple of points right here.
I'm going to go to your tweet right here, Ja,
this is an interesting one. JP Morgan supposedly moved its
entire comx gold trading desk from New York to Singapore
last Thursday. This is no confirmation from JP Morgan Bloomberg
Ruters of course officially filing as of Desimber. First, what
we do know JP Morgan has been expanding into Singapore
(03:31):
for years, Asian Neil now buying fifty percent of gold,
so a lot of activity with some of the major
market makers in general. What do you make of this
right now? Do you feel like this is a trend
that we're going to start seeing more of this kind
of activity.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I do believe so.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
But look, if we're talking about gold, I mean, look,
everybody in the world they want to get their hands
on this right now.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Same goes with Silva.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
We personally see way more potential upside for s and
I was CEO, I was just talking to him today.
He's looking at three digit silver, you know, in the
coming years.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Coming years. Okay, so the possibility and the acceleration. Actually,
I'm going to go over to the chart real quick.
I want to just jump over to our silver chart
and take a look at something. Because you look at
this run up right here, I'm on the daily This
is when silver was trading at about.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Third absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, so you're talking April of twenty twenty five right there,
within the year, and you've seen a run up here
from the bottom of that mark to where it's trading
right now. This is doubling in less than eight months.
So why would you think a couple of years if
this kind of activity is actually going on and we
haven't even seen digital and token is silver just yet.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, and that's exactly what we do.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I mean, that's going to give people, you know, such
easy access to silver, you know, and precious metals as well. Look,
it's just a conservative estimate because a lot of analysts
they like to make different predictions, and it's just so
something that we're very comfortable predicted to predict is that
you know, in the next couple of years, a three
digit silver is just it makes all the sense in
(05:08):
the world. There are just too many things on the
table right now. If we look at recently crypto inequities,
they've been super volatile dropping recently, while gold and silver
they've held up comparatively better. And this really shows their
role as a flight to safety as assets. And then
we've got you know, the structural silver storage things like
physical silver inventories, the COMEX, LBMA, Shanghai versus demand very
(05:33):
very typeite now. And then you know, just recently the
futures expiring showed a really strong demand for the physical
delivery relative to registered stocks, and so that's the kind
of backdrop for the three digit silver expectation in the
coming years. On top of that, we've got the industrial demand.
Something that I'm personally very bullish on is central banks
(05:54):
because Russia is really front running this. As you can see,
the Russian Central Bank is looking to and they've reaffirmed
that commitment to five hundred and thirty five million dollars.
I believe it's December seventeenth, nineteenth where we're going to
have more clarity on this but if we see the
central banks start aping into silver for their reserves, we
think that this is going to you know, really create
(06:15):
a momentum around the world. And then of course this
happened just after the US added silver to their precious
metals list, so we had absolutely every reason to be
bullish on silver right now.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
So you okay, So silver definitely pro obviously the supply
sides of this in terms of the shock that seems
to be hitting the system, The real question is this
a hulk? So are we seeing you know, manipulation because
in these kind of markets, these are kind of the
scenarios that traders are often looking at, especially with what
happened with Comax. What we saw for the weekend timing
(06:47):
was interesting to say the least, and of course now
silver benefiting from that. Do you feel like we could
see a major retracement on this?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
To be honest, anything is possible.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
What we're seeing right now is a lot of you know,
conspirae theories flying around. Some things they just don't add up,
like you showed them the clip, you know, cooling systems
going down and it just doesn't make sense. It feels manipulated.
But again, we don't have those official releases. It's very
strange that the news outlets particularly quiet on this, but
they've been particularly quiet also on China, you know, building
(07:20):
their reserves. I think only something like ten percent has
been officially reported. A lot of people are screaming about this,
but social media right now is very very noisy in
this way, and what we need is just more clarity.
But what we can see is this constant, huge demand
for both gold and silver, and together with our w
ways and tokenized assets, we feel extremely boodhish on this
(07:41):
because it's going to be able to give retailers incredibly
easy access. And you know, when we think about buying
gold bars and stuff like this, you know you need
to think about theft, storage insurance. Are you going to
have something that's fake, you know, tungsten that's sprayed with
gold and stuff like this. Whereas if we have tokenized
assets that are audited and verified, and then you can
(08:03):
move pretty freely around. As Michael Sala always says, try
to take gold bus through customs. They're going to automatically
assume that you stole this, and you know you're going
to get held up, and especially if you travel a lot,
that's incredibly problematic. You mentioned that at the beginning about tangent.
A big fan of tangum. I have one myself. By
the way, self custody is absolutely king and we can
(08:24):
just move around very freely and still have access to
all of the upside of precious metals, including commit.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Okay, so you you mentioned China for a second, because
I think this is something that a lot of people
are watching right now. They're blaming the US for quite
a bit of bitcoin in terms of a theft that
they had. Is this and of course China being very
pro gold, so precious metals in general. Do you feel
like this is just China's way of making a mark
back against the United States to continue to pressure into
(08:52):
precious metals.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, I think you summed it up perfectly. I couldn't
agree more. That's our stance as well.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Okay, when you look at because you're talking about everything
from token i's gold. We haven't seen a true tokenied
silver like that's tradable out there on the open market
outside of what you guys are doing. But you look
at xaut being tether tether gold, this of course being
one of the most popular starting to move dramatically. I
was looking at if you look at current volume right
(09:20):
now at bitcoin around seventy seven billion, then you could
jump over here eighteen billion right now on just xaut
So Token i's gold. Now you imagine if this could
happen on Token I silver. How close do you think
we are of companies coming to market with token I silver.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
You know, it's something that everybody wants access to, and
it's exactly why at decenario we are more focused on
silver specifically because of its upside it has, you know,
and the margins are way bigger as well as in
comparison with gold. Definitely gold at a thirty trillion dollar
market cap, you know, it's the largest asset in the world,
(09:59):
but we do think that the upside for silver is
just way more attractive for investorsing, and so that's why
we're specifically focused more right now on silver, although we
do offer tokenized gold as well.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
So you feel like silver is going to continue to
outpace gold in terms of growth right now, at least
in the near future.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yeah, exactly, And the gold to silver ratio, as we
can see, you know, it's closing.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, all right, So with that being said, those two
assets and a lot of people right now are holding
tokenized gold. You've got Peter Schiff launching that he's doing
a tokenized gold product. I think he's also possibly going
to be doing a silver product eventually. But I'm kind
of curious when you look at that along with what
you guys are doing, is there a market for that
out of traditional crypto investors that have been buying you know,
(10:49):
whether it's bitcoin, ethereum, Salona XRP, could they actually be
in the market for gold and silver if it's tokenized.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Absolutely, as we know Larry Think, is you know, going
more around the world. He's talking about tokenization, Larry think
because a winner. I wouldn't bet against that guy, And
what are they going to be tokenizing? Okay, stocks, bonds? Fine,
but it just makes just perfect sense. I think that
gold and silver, these are going to be the front
runners when we do have that adoption. We've got the
Genius Act, We've got the Clarity Act, and actually they
(11:19):
do provide the rails for the RWA that we would
all like to see.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I think gold is going to.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Be first, but everybody knows that there's more upside, more
potential upside. I just can't say that enough times for
silver and so I think that we're going to see
huge demand for tokenized assets of gold and silver.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
All right, So one of the points I was getting
at there, if you look back at the clip that
we played early, Yes, these are not typical people that
are on our show. These are have been silver bugs
that are coming out. How they would work now with
obviously silver flying And I think that's the question is
are we going to see just the group that has
been into silver all this time simply shifting over to
(12:00):
know whether it's a token is silver or a digital
silver of some format? Or would we see new market
entrants that are coming in from crypto? Because I'm thinking bitcoin,
do you think that gold kind of give you a
comparison here? Do you think gold could actually flip bitcoin
in terms of volume? I mean we saw it right there,
almost eighty billion versus almost twenty billion, and we're talking
(12:21):
about a movement right now where gold is I think
at forty two hundred right now?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Yes? Correct, Oh that's a beautiful question. I love this
one first and foremost. If we take a look this
cycle is very very different. If we just look at crypto, okay,
and the last cycle, what we saw is that people
could gamble on NFTs, but then they'd rotate them and
they just go down the risk cup. A lot of people,
you know, they for example, bought Ethereum Salona at the
(12:47):
very top and then they had to diamond hand it
all the way through the bear market. And what we're
seeing now a lot of people are waking up to this.
What are they going to do with their profits if
you do get out, you know, near the top or
something like this, are you going to rotate them into
l one coins or mean coins?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
And especially with this growing narrative of tokenization, people need
to understand inflation and a hedge against inflation. And if
you had DCA dolar cost averaged into gold and silver,
like you just said at the beginning of the year,
you know, it's up almost two x and this is
a very stable asset of where you're going to put
your profits. And that's what we'd like to see more
(13:27):
and especially with easy access if we take a look
at something like gold, A lot of people for average
retailers for example, and this is why I think we're
going to see a lot of demand from retailers. They're
going to have much easier access to tokenize gold and silver.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
A lot of retailers they think that, you know, gold.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Is something that's only for rich people, and to buy
and to store it, this is a complete pain. But
if you have tokenization and it has all of that upside,
it's a flight to safety, you know. I think people
are going to have very very easy access to this
and it will be somewhere that they rotate their profits
into comfortably as a hedge against inflation.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Well, we can up to inslation now.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Because exactly, I think the debasement trade is a real thing,
and we are seeing people under the age of forty
that have literally just detached from the financial system. But
to your point, yes, tokenization has really kind of changed
the way because I mean it's done it. We've been
able to do that in crypto, whether it's ethereum or bitcoin,
buying a fractional portion of those tokens now you can
do that obviously with some of these assets. I'm really
(14:28):
looking forward to seeing what you guys are doing when
you launch. So you are now launched on your platform,
I'm looking at that right now where you can buy
Denario silver and if you guys didn't watch our last video,
you can learn a lot more about Denario. Go back
to that video because their CEO kind of breaks down
a little bit about how you guys use industrial grade silver.
Part of that as the reserve asset for this. But
you can log on by DSc within it. What else
(14:53):
can I do in the platform itself?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Okay, So on the platform you can go in. It's
very easy to set up. There's no cave, I see.
All you need is an email address, a phone number
and you'll be able to get in. You are limited
to how much you can buy because we it's basically
a buffer. Yeah, so it's one thousand dollars. Yeah, that's
(15:16):
one thousand dollars per month. Yeah, one thousand dollars, can
get colors. That's what you can get right now. We
do want to have as we move forward, we are
going to have full KYC requirements, but it's right now
it's just because of the Swiss AML law threshold. If
it's well, it's actually one thousand Swiss francs and so
(15:36):
I think that's about one thousand, two hundred dollars, and
so that's the kind of limit per month. But what
we do have is a prefer and earn program, and
so it's really easy to understand.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
If you can just get on there, you'll take a
look at your dashboard.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
You get your own QR code, and for example, if
someone signs up using your code, then they get zero
point one, which is DSc the Denario Silver coin.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
And just as people buying, you.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Can accumulate as well, so actually you'll just be adding
to your stack of silver instead of getting paid in
you know, staple coins.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
All right, So okay, just what I'm seeing in the
market right now is if Tether or other major companies
go to market with a token I silver, this is
going to wreak havoc on your company. I mean, I'm
looking at XAUT, which is dominating right now. We've already
seen it. If you're you're maybe you're a tangent wall
(16:29):
or you can get x AUT right there on it
being able to trade in and out of gold like that.
Silver has been the missing link because we haven't seen
true token I silver coming in from a major player.
My ex estimation is we're going to see demands coming
at it pretty hard. I was looking at a couple
of tweets here, no Token I silver available right now.
(16:49):
This was one tweet out there, people are asking it,
what's token ied Silver's ticker. These are the kind of
things so there's estimation, or i should say expectation of
where to what can I Silver needs to come from?
What would it take for you guys to launch maybe
in a let's go move Denario to Asia, you know,
(17:09):
get something going here though, you guys can really advance
up in terms of tokenied silver definitely.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
You know, for example, Singapore is definitely a hot spot.
It's a market that we would like to explore. But
at the same time, the US. I think the US
is going to be a huge market for this as well.
And just as we get that tokenization trend going look
at the end of the day, right yes, xaut is
dominating right now. Number one, there's always room at the top.
Number two, we need it to be accessible for people.
(17:37):
And that's something because right now, the Denario silver coin
it's on Polygon. We're on the Polygon network and what
we'd like to do is find we're looking for another
home for the Denario silver coin. We are looking at
Arbitram as one of the candidates because Arbitram right now
they're getting into the RWA. They don't have any tokenized
gold and silver at the moment on there, and so
(17:58):
I think that we could be better positioned there. And
also if we could get some you know, kind of funding,
some help with marketing, I think that could really help
to push it and put this in a very good position.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Okay, So a couple of points I would hit on
is if you're shopping for chains, I would probably look
at Solana. Obviously, the community there would support something like this.
We've already started to see quite a bit of move
out there already, and I think when you look at that,
you could often if you're looking at communities, because that's
the key here, if you're looking at communities being able
to grow it. I'm just looking at your TVL right now.
(18:30):
This obviously a small TVL. You would have to grow
this dramatically. But maybe Solana or maybe even XRP would
be the kind of platform that would give you exposure
to a really large investor base of being able to
get it to the next level. So I don't know,
just something to think about when you guys are no,
we did.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
We've done a full analysis about this. We really broke
it down definitely. Solana was on the list.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
We hadn't put XP on that actually, but we did
have like arbitram optimism, and so right now we just
need to make that decision.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
But yeah, absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
The Solana ecosystem the very supportive and that could really
help give us a push as well.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I'm going to be watching it because you've got gold
over now on Solana, the tacker name where you can
get it, get tokenized gold over there available within that.
So I think this is going to be something to
kind of pay attention to in general. What price of
silver do you think we're going to see in terms
of the demand right now? You're saying that it's much
(19:29):
greater than what's happening with gold. Where is the window
that we see either parabolic moves or possibly a pullback.
What's kind of the forecast here for silver?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:43):
So for me, like I said, it's the Russian Central Bank.
They've already reaffirmed their commitment, like I said, five hundred
and thirty five million dollars that they're putting on the
table to start stacking silver. We're going to get clarity
about that. Like I said, I think it's December seventeenth
or nineteenth.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
That could be a.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Massive bullish catalyst for silver, because that's going to be
the first time a central bank is really adding silver
to their reserves. If that can create game theory, a
chain reaction, and then everybody around the world starts doing it,
then it's just a massive race is on and we're
just going to see that there just isn't there isn't
the supply to meet this insatiable hunger, this insatiable demand
(20:23):
for silver. And together with tokenization, that's really the next
step because that's what gives the accessibility and we're going
to start seeing that more.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
And we just need eyeballs on this, people to see
and to understand it.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
And then, like I've said enough times, hedge against inflation,
rotating profits and things like this, because people understand, now
if you're rotating your profits into the dollar, then you know,
just due to inflation and so forth, purchasing power, you're
just actually you're losing money.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Okay, those are the key. So you're saying, keep an
eye on central banks. Is there anything else that would
be a catalyst for this to grow in the near term?
We saw with this hoax on the CME and what
was going on over the weekend.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Yeah, if we see more manipulation like this JP Morgan
for example, you know, moving their gold around on the client.
If we see more things like this, this is of
course it's bearership creates fud in the market and people
start to panic. But when they panic, we see that
people fly to safety. So where you're going to rotate
your silver profits too? Okay, people could sell look to
you know, buy in a dip, but ultimately where you're
(21:28):
going to put your profits.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I'm going to track the Nation States because obviously we
had the move States Maloney, who of course is trying
to get control of her three hundred billion. This is
Italy's prime minister. There are a billion gold reserves, and
that would be interesting because this is the EU. It
starts to change things up dramatically in the EU if
we start to see control out of the ecb as
for some of these precious metals, especially calling delivery on
(21:53):
some of these things. So silver could play into this
whole situation that we're seeing, not only within the EU,
but as you mentioned, possibly even into some of the
other countries that are holding silver as one of the
key assets for their fund. So we're going to keep
a close eye on this. First of all, thanks so
much for coming in. We appreciate it. Good luck to
what you guys are doing over at Dinario.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Paul, hope you'll go through register, please get your own
referrable code.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
More than happy for you guys to be with us.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Thank you, all right, excellent, all right, you guys know
what to do. If you're not in our own private group,
make sure and jump in on that. It's the bear
Market ads. You can get that absolutely free. Just use
the link down below and of course follow me out
there on X at Paul Baron. We'll catch you next
time right here on The Paul Baron Show.
Popular Podcasts
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
Are You A Charlotte?
In 1997, actress Kristin Davis’ life was forever changed when she took on the role of Charlotte York in Sex and the City. As we watched Carrie, Samantha, Miranda and Charlotte navigate relationships in NYC, the show helped push once unacceptable conversation topics out of the shadows and altered the narrative around women and sex. We all saw ourselves in them as they searched for fulfillment in life, sex and friendships. Now, Kristin Davis wants to connect with you, the fans, and share untold stories and all the behind the scenes. Together, with Kristin and special guests, what will begin with Sex and the City will evolve into talks about themes that are still so relevant today. "Are you a Charlotte?" is much more than just rewatching this beloved show, it brings the past and the present together as we talk with heart, humor and of course some optimism.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.