Peegs Postgame LIVE: Oregon -- March 5, 2025

Indiana gave Oregon all it could handle, but more late-game miscues led to the Hoosiers falling by nine in a game that could have solidified a spot in the NCAA Tournament. We took your calls and heard your thoughts on IU's latest loss.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Are you doing, everybody, I'm Ken Bikoff and welcome to
the Peagus. Postgame Live. Indiana falls at Oregon seventy three
sixty four in a game that the Hoosiers allowed to
slip away. Another one of those late game I don't
want to say it's a collapse because that seems a
little bit too harsh, but they did allow Oregon to

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score the last ten points of the game, and the
Hoosiers went ice cold late down. They make just two
of their last twelve shots, and Indiana falls at Oregon
peaks post game Live Oregon addition, this to me was
one of those games that the Hoosiers it was going

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to be a challenge for them to win. But I
give them a lot of credit. They hung with the
Ducks the entire game and they gave them absolute everything
that they could and they deserve all the credit in
the world for that. Because the Hoosiers have been inconsistent
at best throughout the entire season and they came to

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play in this one, I give them a lot of
credit for that. I also thought it was a struggle
because of the fact that Indiana gets the free throw
line just seven times. I know some people on the
Chad Drew already says refs were terrible. It's life on

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the road in the Big Ten. I also thought the
refs were not good. They were inconsistent at best. They
definitely it was I don't think they got screwed by
the refs. I won't go that far in this one.
What I will say is I think that Indiana could
have done a better job of forcing officials hands. Indiana

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also has a reputation as being a bit of a
whiny team, and that doesn't help. That doesn't help. I'll
give you one the Canne Carlisle play where he made
the bucket and then he went down the floor with
his hands up in the air. You know that call
I felt could have gone either way. He didn't get it.

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But after every single call, Indiana's complaining about it pretty hard.
When you're talking about Anthony Lele, you're talking about Luke Goodie,
you're talking about malikue Renew. Any of them complain a lot.
Could that have played into it? I don't know. I
don't know, but it certainly did not help Indiana's cause
that they get to the free throw line just seven times,

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which seems odd in a game in which the Hoosiers
did the bulk of their damage in the paint. Indiana
scores thirty two points in the paint, gets to the
free throw line seven times and just twice in the
second half. So I find that to be really really interesting.

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Eight one, two, three, nine, three, twenty six hundred is
our number. Lines are open, and we do have our
first caller on the line. So caller, if I could
have your name, where you're from, and what you got?

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Hello, Hi, how are you doing good?

Speaker 1 (03:22):
How are you good? What you got?

Speaker 3 (03:27):
I just want to say, you know, I feel like
we've played really hard tonight but came up short, especially
in the last two minutes, which is seems like it's
been pretty normal for a Mike Winston coach team. The
last two minutes seemed.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Rough.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
That's one way to put it. Yeah, or again, we're
gonna finish a game on a ten to nothing run
and watching Indiana one point lead turned into a nine
point loss.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
Right, So.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, that's pretty much all I got to say.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
All Right, Well, I appreciate the call. All right, Well
that was quick and easy, But you know, there's some
things up pretty simple because of the fact that, hey man,
you know what this is a team that does not
do well late game, and it certainly did in this one.

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Got another call caller, if you have your name, where
you're from, and what you got?

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Hey, KB, it's t bones before wearing call him back
in how you doing good man?

Speaker 5 (04:36):
Love the show. Thank you for this platform. A couple
of things bollow.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Catching the ball way off high. I just I don't
understand that. I feel like they got him out of position.
You know he's doing a little handoff deal. Let's get
his big body down there where he can do some damage.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
What do you think, Well, that's what you know. For
a lot of the season, that's what he's been doing.
But I've noticed that when he runs into guys that
he doesn't have the size advantage on that it's a
whole different game for him because he doesn't get to
set up as low on the block as he does
against a lot of other teams. And the Biddle kid

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wasn't letting Bollo get to where he wanted to go,
and it completely changed his game. Ballo finishes with ten
points on five to seven shooting. But I thought he
was more quiet in this one than we've seen. A
part of it is because I felt he was in.
He was just uncomfortable on the floor.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Hey, thinking of that, the buddy of mine had him
at ten and a half.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
What do you think of these fan dual draft game?
Things are so close? Man? How do they know?

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Oh my god, you know what. It's incredible how they're
able to do that. It really is something else. I
don't know exactly how they do it, but their ability
to get so incredibly close so many times. Years and
years ago, I worked for Pro Football Weekly and Basketball
News Magazine was one of them, and they asked, there's

(06:09):
a casino out in Vegas that asked me to help
them set lines for preseason NBA basketball. And I'm talking
about this was maybe nineteen ninety eight, so it was
a long time ago. And I told them, I don't
know what to tell you. That's not something I could
come close to helping you with. And they certainly have

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it down to an absolute science. The amount of times
they get it to half a point is really really extraordinary,
and it is really incredible. It's why I don't gamble.
I'll bet on the Super Bowl a little bit, but otherwise, no,
no way.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, I mean, I don't believe in time travel until
here recently, I can tell you that you'll.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
Start doing.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
I thought they're out of bounds plays underneath, though tonight
we're pretty nigh.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
I thought they executed it pretty well. What'd you think?

Speaker 1 (07:02):
No, I think so too. And a lot of what
I've seen from Indiana over the past couple of weeks
is what you wish you would have been able to
see the entire season, because you do see the light
coming on. You do see more of those lineups with
just one big and you know, the announcers talked about
it on the broadcast. It really is amazing that it
took Mike Woodson getting fired or resigning to decide that

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what the fans had known since November was the right answer,
and it just it really is incredible to me. But
it is good to see these guys playing more as
a team as opposed to what we saw earlier in
the year.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, last thing, and I'll I'll hang up and let
somebody else call into your great show. The Jerseys, man,
I love them, I think coach and I would probably
be all about them. What do you think I'll hang
up and let you know.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Nope, I don't. We don't have to check that I
mentioned this last show that he hated the black football
uniforms because he said black was not an Indiana color
and so he did not didn't like it, and so
that was that's why Indiana's black jerseys went away really
quickly because he he his former player Cam Cameron was

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the head football coach and Knight didn't like him, and
for years those were just stowed away. You know who knows,
probably in Mark Deal's garage or all we know. But
I love the jerseys. I love the uniforms. I like
the little alternate look and I really have no problem
with it at all. Looks fantastic. You know, didn't get
the win, but you look good in competing in this

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one eight one, two, three, nine three, twenty six hundred.
Appreciate the calls here late on a Tuesday night, we
got another caller, caller, if I have your name, where
you're from, and what you got?

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yeah, this is a Jay Long out of Noblesville.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
How are you, hey, Jay? How you doing?

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Pretty good? I had a couple questions for you one tonight.
Was pretty impressed by Biddle's performance defensively, do you think
some of the twenty four million dollars and a fell
deal included rogain for his loss or how do you
feel about that?

Speaker 1 (09:15):
No, I think he should take the next step and
just be a man about it and shave his head.
Because I'll tell you right now, the money that you
save on shampoo is amazing. If you can wash your
hair with face soap, you're good to go. Look, I'm
a guy who been bald for a long time. I
suggest it to everybody. Go ahead and get rid of
that hair. It's useless.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
See, that's where I'm at. I feel like he's probably
got a few kids as well, and that helme needs
to be used for that and for just shave the head.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
So but yeah, Biddle was very good, good defensively and
just rattled. And again I've seen I've noticed a trend
that I've noticed that when Billow faces players that are
his size, that have a little bit more bulk, he
struggles a lot more than he does against you know,
just thinner guys, guys with longer arms. They bother him

(10:04):
a lot, and I think that's really going to limit
his opportunities, you know, when you're talking about playing at
a professional level.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Yeah, I agree. You think he's got a chance to
go to the NBA, or just not really athletically able
to make it to that level.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
I just think that in today's NBA that his game
maybe won't translate. He could play a lot of different
places around this planet, finding minutes in the NBA might
be difficult. But here's the thing, and Jeff Rabjohns talks
about this all the time, and he's exactly right. It's
not about convincing everybody you could play in the NBA.

(10:39):
It's about convincing one team to give you a chance.
That said, you know that draft stock isn't isn't exactly
sky high because he is just he's a big guy,
which are a diamond doesn't in the NBA, and he's
you know, somewhat one dimensional inside. But I certainly wish
him all the luck in the world if he wants
to continue playing basketball, to be able to find somewhere

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where he could because he has a rare set of
talent among humans, and hopefully he'll be able to find
somewhere to go.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Do you think there's any sort of relation to play
like Brian Cardinal or a big country.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Hmm, we're not. Cardinal Cardinal had a little bit of
range on him, a little bit big country was was
different in a different NBA too, and a big country
was bigger as well.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
So I.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
And Country had had, you know, good feet. He did
good footwork, So I would say that I don't necessarily
agree with that comparison. But uh, again, if you could
go out there in the NBA and let's say that
Ballo wants to dedicate himself, drops some pounds, but also
then focuses on defense and rebounding, I mean, really lock

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in on defense and rebounding. He's going to have a
place in the NBA because every team needs a guy
that doesn't need the ball to be effective. And if
he could do that, now that takes as much of
a physical as a mental mindset switch. If he could
do that, you know, then that that's you can build on.
That you could develop into that over a couple of years.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Yeah, that's a good point, I think. Last question, do
you think rab John should shave his head too?

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Rab John's usually just needs to shave period. I don't
know how many times I see him, I'm like, did
you lose your razor again, Jeff? Because he's out there,
he's working doing all of that. So, yeah, you know what,
I think that that should be the case. If Indiana
gets to the Sweet sixteen this year, the entire Peak
staff should shave their head. I think that's a great idea,

(12:43):
so I'm gonna go ahead and credit that to you.
You know, if that should happen, everybody should just match
up with the bike off haircut. I won't say the
bike off Woodston haircut because he had it first. But
and he has a way bigger head than I do.
So there's that.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
Yeah, you got you got a good point there. I'm
with you, all right.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Did you have anything else?

Speaker 4 (13:10):
No, that's it for me. I appreciate it, all.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Right, man, No, I appreciate the call. Thank you so much.
Have a good one starting off with a couple of
excellent calls. And that's It's always helpful, especially on a
Tuesday night. I also, for those of you who listen
week game. After a game, I obviously sound a lot
better today. I'm not dead healthy. I'm not promising I
won't have to hit the mute button to stifle a

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coughing fit, or that you won't hear me just knocking
down cough drops like they're bourbon on a Thursday. But
I am doing better, and I appreciate all all the
people who checked on me after the last show. Eight one, two,
twenty six hundred. It's the number. Let's see. Paul says,

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why his nine in down stretch? Well five and twelve?
Oh okay, okay, So he's asking about why Canaan Carlyle
was in the game down the stretch while Renew and
Mbaco sat so much. Okay, Well, let's talk about that.
You had Bollow on the floor. Renew was undersized against uh,

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what Oregon was bringing to the floor. So there's that
you don't want to go with two bigs on the
floor at once. And Mbaco scored eight points on two
of ten shooting, and in the second half alone was
just was two of six. That's basically why, because you

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had guys like Rice that were able to be out
there and maybe be a little more effective with his quickness.
So I think that that, Paul, is why Carlile was
on the floor instead of Umbaco and Renew, who's still
got its opportunities. But Renew wasn't all that strong tonight either.

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And we'll go through the stats here in just a second,
but Indiana shot just forty percent from the floor overall,
but Oregon only shots thirty nine point three percent, and
that's one thing that we can't overlook. Yeah, it's in
nine point loss, but I also believe that this was
one of the better defensive performances that I've seen from

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IU in some time. They did a really nice job
of being disruptive tonight and playing just tighter defense. Think
about what we've seen at times this year with this
ball club and how not engaged they've been when it
comes to their defensive game, and right now I feel

(15:47):
that they're they're playing as well as they can. Part
of that has to do with the influence of Anthony Leal.
I really believe that he's out there doing more with
less than anybody else on that floor, and he's making
plays that impact games without the ball in his hands,
and that is extremely important. Got another caller, if I

(16:10):
could have your name, where you're from, and what you got.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
It, It's up Ken. This is g Man from Tri
Lakes again calling in. Called in a couple of weeks
ago and just noticed a couple things tonight to follow
up kind of on your box score. As I look
through the box score, I mean it looks, you know,
like both teams were relativeatively even, but the one thing
I noticed. There's two things that stand out to me.

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Number One, from the beginning of the game, I thought
our defensive rebounding lacked intensity. I thought they got way
too many second chance opportunities. And I look at the
box score, it looks like we got out rebounded forty
three to thirty six.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
I think that's one of the tales of the tape.
And then the second thing to me is the deferring
of good shots. We passed up good shots for okay shots.
I think I think Imbaco took some some ill advised shots.
I think Rice took some ill advised shots. I think
their percentages to speak to that. And I think there

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were times when the ball didn't move when it should have,
and then there were times when the ball shouldn't have moved,
somebody should have just shot the ball, and it felt
like we were deferring. Did you notice some of those
types of things as you were watching the game with
your expertise?

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Oh for sure?

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Is that just kind of my lay person knowledge?

Speaker 1 (17:31):
No, No, for sure. You know there were times that
Indiana earlier in the season would settle for an open
shot even if it wasn't a good shot, and those
aren't always the same thing. In this game, I did
see them maybe pass up some open looks that they
could have had to try to find a better shot
and settle for an okay shot. That's I think that

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they were working a little bit harder to try to
maybe get a better shot and then ran out of
time or ran out of space and got kind of
caught up a little bit. So there's that again. It's
that inconsistency that comes up from time to time. And
you also mentioned the rebounding Indiana was outscored twenty three
to thirteen, and second chance points and that's part of

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this equation of this loss too.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
Yeah, I think you're right. I think I think the
second chance opportunities where balls got kicked out for three
point plays, you know, especially that guard, that quick guard
that Oregon had. I mean, just there were so many
daggers that that guy hit. I mean, you think about
the last three, right, I won't forget that for a
long time. You know, he's forty feet out and drains

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one with Leo closing out on a good clothes out.
I can't fall Anthony Leal on that. But you know, again,
just I just didn't feel like the rebounding was there,
particularly defensively. The intensity just wasn't there.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, and looking at the second half, it wasn't that bad.
But Oregon on scores the out rebounds Indiana twenty to
seventeen in the second half, and you know, in a
game that's closed, so those little things matter.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Okay, here's the second thing I wanted to talk to
you about from our first call. I think you remember
I'm kind of obsessed with the men's Big Ten Basketball
Tournament simulator.

Speaker 6 (19:17):
Yes, it appears that there is a very good chance
that the Hoosiers could play Oregon again right in the
early game on Thursday noon.

Speaker 5 (19:29):
Tip, is there a.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
Silver lining in this? You know the old adage, you know,
you can't beat a team three times in a year.
But here we are. We've lost this game.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
What can we learn?

Speaker 4 (19:41):
What do you you know again your expertise, you're you're
so smart at this stuff. Can what can we learn
going into the Big Ten Tournament that we can improve
upon tonight? On kind of a quick turnaround obviously for
next week.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, And I mean, I guess playing so soon afterwards
gives you that opportunity to oh here it comes my
first cough I have here. It gives you the opportunity,
I think, to make a quick adjustment on things because
they're still so fresh in your mind. And Indiana, I think,
would probably like to really make it a point to

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get Ballow going earlier, to get him to really attack
the basket, and the Hoosiers has a group attack the
basket to try to get the Biddle Kid and File
trouble and get him out of the lineup to allow
Ballow to be more effective, because again, he really struggles
with guys his size. Now that said, there are some

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built in things that are going to give Indiana problems
with this Oregon team no matter what, and that has
to do with their length. You know, the Bomba Kid
really really long, Biddle long. A lot of these guys were.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Long.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
And when you throw in the fact that Indiana has
good quick guards in Canaan, Carlisle and my Rice, but
those guys also have their very inherent flaws as well.
You want to run with them and use their quickness,
but that can come at a trade off of times

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of of just decisions with the ball. So to me,
it would be we're going to work everything out to
try to get India, get Oregon in foul trouble early,
and that means going inside and pounding the ball inside
and tried to get those bigs in trouble. That that's
where I would start if I were Mike Woodson.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
All right, last thought, and then I'll let you go.
And I can't help. But notice this is the first
time with me watching The Pig's postgame podcast. You've got
a right royal blue shirt.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
No, no, no, no, bad, Nope, it's purple. It's purple.
This is just bad like it's purple because this was
the I sponsored my son's youth basketball team and we
were the Bike Off Kings. This is purple. I promise you.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
Oh, I was going to give you a hard time
because that looks like Kentucky blue.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Oh God.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
And uh you know.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
I was gonna tell you, like, you need to talk
to Rabbi about getting you a Crimson shirt because holy cow,
we can't have you be in a part of big
Blue Nation.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Ken Jesus, No, this is this is purple. It is
Northwestern purple is what it really is. But it was
it was purple for we were the Kings, basically the
Sacramento Kings colors, and so that's why this shirt is purple.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
Now, hey, you're talking about Northwestern here. Don't start endorsing
Chris Collins for the next counch of I.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
That's not either. Hey, I appreciate.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
I appreciate you giving taking my jab here at the
end in good stride. I appreciate that I had to
give you a hard time because it looked blue. And
obviously we need to get you all the crimson and
we can get you.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
I appreciate it. Thanks so much for the call. Always
eight one, two, three, nine, twenty six hundred is the number.
We got a lot of calls waiting for us. I'll
go ahead and uh and uh call her forgive your name,
where you're from, and what you got.

Speaker 7 (23:16):
Hey, Ken, this is Scott, your fellow region rat living
out in Arizona.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Very nice.

Speaker 7 (23:22):
I thought maybe I thought maybe the shirt was Merylville purple.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
There you go, we could do that. I'm all for
that purple. There you go go, Pirates right.

Speaker 7 (23:34):
There anyway, watching the game, Uh, you probably heard me
yelling at my television because we seem to always wanting
to be shooting. The three ball would get into ballow
and he would just sit there and hold it waiting
for the double team to come to him, instead of

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just getting the ball and turn around and just taking
it to the hole right in front of bttle, you know.
And so he gets the ball and I'm like, take them,
take them, take them, already, take them. And it is
kind of insistent on trying to get it past the
arc to shoot the shot instead of getting having to

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have a couple of times that you just go ahead
and take it to the whole down deep, instead of
going for the three every single time.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
I hear what you're saying, I think a bigger issue.
There was not an issue, but the kind of the
strategy there was. They knew that Oregon was going to
double them, and so what you do as as a
big you have the ball, you're you're dealing with a
guy that's that's your size, so you don't have that
size advantage. So you can wait until that double double

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team comes and then pass out of that double team
and get an open look versus maybe a contested shot
in the paint. That doesn't mean that that shot has
to come from three. You could have a situation where
you get doubled, you pass the ball out a guy
drives to the bucket. You have that, sou But if
Oregon then rotates the way that they're supposed to do,

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then you're your only option might be a three. So
I understand where where you're coming from. And yeah, you
do want to see that happen. And I bet you
that if Indiana plays or Gone in the Big Ten tournament,
you try to see that or bollow go a lot
quicker instead of waiting for that double team to come.
He wanted him to take care of the ball. But
also it's drawing a defender away from the perimeter. That

(25:35):
that is some of the strategy that's involved there.

Speaker 7 (25:39):
Yeah, yeah, I think I agree with you completely. Uh,
I just think you have to take it to the whole.
I looked a couple of times. Even if it doesn't
quite work out, you got to do it just to
have a change in the pacing of your offensive set
right there.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Well, and you can't be you know, he Bollo plays
thirty minutes and did not get to the free throw line,
and part of that was instead of being aggressive and
going to the rim in those situations, he was passing
out of the double team and waiting for the double
team to come.

Speaker 7 (26:11):
Right exactly. So now that's what I was thinking, uh
throughout That's why, like I said, I was yelling at
through to my television throughout the game throughout the second half.
So hopefully you're right. Hopefully they'll do it better come
next time.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
But on the bright side, you you do live in Arizona,
so you can wander outside into the nice warmth. And
if I could live anywhere here that wasn't Key West,
it would be at Arizona, it would be Arizona.

Speaker 7 (26:41):
Hey, we got it. I got a spot for you.
You got a rental house house to here that I
can be happy to less you have.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Hey, there were years ago that I got laid off
from a job and could could go to work anywhere,
and I was going to go to Arizona, uh to
Uh that's where I decided I was gonna apply for jobs.
And the thing that kept me from doing it was
I had just met this girl that felt something was
good with her, and now twenty five years later, she's

(27:09):
you know, upstairs sleeping. So that worked out for me.

Speaker 7 (27:15):
Well, Hey, maybe next time you can come out here,
and then when you do, you let me know, we'll
we'll have a beer somewhere.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
That would be fantastic. Thanks a lot.

Speaker 7 (27:23):
Also, I was gonna say, glad, glad, you're sounding better.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah, I'm doing doing a lot better today and hopefully
it'll be back to normal again. I haven't had a
coughing fit so, which is good because my ribs were
all sore even earlier today.

Speaker 7 (27:38):
I understand, I understand. Hey, have a great day, buddy,
appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Thanks a lot. Eight one, two, three, nine, three, twenty
six hundred is the number. We got another Color who's
been hanging on for a long time. Let me get
to him right now. Color for your name, where you're from,
and what you got.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
Yeah, this is a Tom out of a Villa area.
How are you, hi?

Speaker 1 (27:57):
How are you doing?

Speaker 4 (27:59):
Than did pretty good? Well out of the box. Questionnight,
do you think some of the energy from Trump and
the State of the Union was kind of like IU
and Oregon to I just you know energy that maybe
oregonhead defensively versus IU.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
You were listening the other night, I think when the
guy was asking about Trump Zelensky energy.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Oh yeah, actually I know who that is. We're kind
of in the same circles.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Okay, Well, did you have anything basketball to talk about.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
Yeah, I guess more specifically with Oregon, do you think
long term program for them for recruiting is going to
increase with Big Ten exposure just you know, different type
of league they're in now versus what they were doing before.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
For sure, the challenge for these teams that are on
the West Coast to me is that the travel that's
involved for almost all of their games is just brutal.
It's it's really really brutal. It's a lot of travel
that goes into these guys. So if you're going to
that school, that has to be part of the equation.
Do you want to travel and spend as much time

(29:02):
on planes as they will? Obviously, nil of money is
going to make a difference. Revenue sharing in the Big
Ten is part of the equation, and every sport that
they're involved with is going to be, you know, part
of that equation. Yeah, you get to play Washington and
USC and you know in UCLA, but it does factor

(29:25):
into it. Now that said, the Big Ten is the
Big Ten, and so there is absolutely a chance for
Oregon to kind of raise its profile a little bit
and not just be kind of tucked into the corner
of the country because they're going to be a much
bigger presence because they aren't always playing late games like

(29:45):
they did when they were in the Pac ten or
Pac twelve, and being able to build on that will
take time. Dana Altman also is a damn good coach
and he's going to make the most of what he
has out there as as well. Uh, one thing I'm
checking right now, Dana Altman is sixty six years old,

(30:05):
So some turnover at Oregon is probably coming, I would,
you know, in the next five six years. So the
real question to me is is that program going to
be able to maintain its level of success once you
go through that coaching transition whenever it comes. And also, admittedly, look,
the college landscape could look drastically different in the next

(30:26):
five or six years. But it's a great question something
to watch.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, and I think that
that turnover probably will happen in the next you know,
four or five years, So it's very good the student observation, it's.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
It's part of the equation. That's one of the reasons why,
you know, people talk about Greg McDermott being a candidate
at IU. I'm not wild about that because I don't
want a guy who's sixty plus because you don't want
to have to go through this. You know again, you
know anytime relatively soon. That's the one thing that doesn't
I won't use the word bothers me when it comes

(31:04):
to Kurt Signetti, but his age is something that you
know you have to be successful right now because that
that long term shelf life for a coach isn't necessarily
part of the equation when you're talking about my long term,
I'm talking about fifteen.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
Years or so, right, I think he'd be a good
mentor for Mark Few with no DUI is also in
that tenure.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
That would be good.

Speaker 5 (31:33):
All right, Well, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
I appreciate you, girl, thanks so much. A one, two, three, nine, three,
twenty six hundred is the number. Get to the box
score here in just a few minutes. But I'm gonna
also go to our next caller, because again it's quarter
to twelve. People got to work in the morning, so
I want to get to them. And I appreciate you
giving me a call. Caller for your name, where you're from,

(31:56):
and what you got.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
Hey, this is Andrew and I from Crown Point, Indiana.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Ooh, I know where Crownd Point is. I'm from Arava region.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
Rats right, Hell yeah, all right, So had to question.
I've got some friends and I were looking at maybe
going down to Indianapolis and for the Big Ten Tournament,
and we were wondering, are you or any of the
Pigs crew gonna be bellied up at any bars anywhere?

(32:26):
Don't remembere, the IU crew is going to be meeting
up where we could hang out. Do you know if
there's anything being arranged for the Big Ten Tournament at
this point?

Speaker 1 (32:37):
You know, we haven't talked about that, and basically it's
because we weren't sure about where the uh when they
were going to play, and that plays into it a lot.
But certainly that's something that we might be able to
talk about or figure out. But that isn't something that
we've we've been discussing simply because we've been you know,

(32:59):
these games are off on the West coast. We've been
focusing on the coaching search. You have spring football starting up,
and so that has not been on our radar. But
I appreciate you bringing up and putting it on our radar,
because I guarantee I'll go ahead and I'll mention it
to them about that possibility.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
Yeah, I had some good friends that were in the
Bahamas and got to hang out with Trevor and Rabbi,
and I don't think you were in the Bahamas. I
get where Peaks maybe doesn't pay for you to go
to the Bahamas, but they at least pay for you
to get to the Big Ten Tournament. Can because you're
a huge part of what Peaks does. And I can't
tell you how much I love this podcast after every

(33:38):
game such a great asst I want you to know
you're you're really important to this and I'm hoping that
maybe you'll be in Indianapolis for the Big Ten Tournament.
And is that on your radar at least?

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Well at the very I did not put in for
a credential because you know, I again there's a limited
numbers of those. And so for actually covering the games, uh,
you want Rabbi and and Jared and Trevor to be
able to do it, But that doesn't mean that we
can't figure out some kind of place to uh to

(34:09):
do the call in after the game. Uh. And and
you know, do some some live audience stuff because that's
something that I love doing at football games and so yeah,
I I appreciate that. Again, that hasn't even really been
on my radar. Man, We've been going game by game
and there's been so much other stuff going on. But
I appreciate you bringing it up, and I'll see what
I can do.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
Well, I'll tell you as soon as you get it
figured out, I think you need to put it out
there for all the fans to know, because I think
doing this in a live format, if you could go
to like how at the Moon or you know, one
of the bars downtown Indianapolis, and right obviously Indiana has
a great fan base and obviously being right in our
our our wheelhouse, boy, I would think that you would

(34:53):
just have a slew of people show up for that
might be your best might be your best episode ever
can because I mean again live and in person. You know,
maybe we could even get some special guests there. You know,
I think this podcast could really really cook in a
live setting like that, can. I think you'd be really

(35:14):
good at it.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Well, I appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
As as soon as you know more we want to
know about it, I promise we'll be there again, Me
and all my buddies from Crown Point. You know, we
we'll we'll be making the trip down, so we'd love
to know where you're going to be, what restaurant, what bar,
even if it's like the hotel bar, hotel lobby where
you're staying, Like, we want to know all the details.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
All right, I appreciate it, and I'll let.

Speaker 6 (35:39):
You know, all right.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
And I promise I'm not a can stand.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
Okay, I promise that.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Hell my wife is in a can stand, So that's fine.
So I appreciate it. Thanks a lot, all right, take
care of ken, Take care eight. When two, three, nine,
three twenty six is the number you have, let me
go over some of the Oh I haven't checked the

(36:09):
chat forever. Oh boy, here we go. Okay, sorry about that.
On the chat, I've been answering these calls, which is
why we're here, right, that's the whole point of this
is to to hear from them. Okay, Troykus says, only
three guys shot free throws not aggressive enough and we
can't draw fouls. That's life on the road in the
Big ten. It's not fair, But here we are. Some
of the shots selection really sucked. We're reverting back to

(36:31):
our norm. Yes, and no, I felt that some of
those shots were forced. Some of them had to do
with what Oregon was making available to Indiana because they
were They were struggling to get inside at times. But
it was inconsistency. That's that's what we're talking about. Lynn says,
tough loss. Anyone's game till the end. Shelstead's three was

(36:53):
a dagger. It sure was. Rest regroup and take pride
on Senior Day game against Ohio State could be a
playing game for one of the last spots. That game
on Saturday is going to be really, really interesting because
again Ohio State, Indiana beat him by one at their

(37:16):
place in overtime, choked on a ten point lead. That
wasn't a game in which Indiana was dominant in Ohio
State gave him everything that they could handle. So that
is not a gimme game, especially with the way this
team has been up and down over the years. Dave Nergi,

(37:37):
the Great Dave Nergy, who hosts me for the football
postgame shows at Memorial Stadium, says, Indiana needs a reliable
point guard who we could trust to make good decisions
with the ball at the end of the game. Neither
Galloway nor Rice or that player too many turnovers in
crunch time. That's the disappointment for me for Miles Rice

(37:58):
this year is I thought that he would be that
steady point guard who could also score a little bit,
and that hasn't been the case. Galloway kid put together
some assists, but for a guy who's played as much
basketball as he has, he's also can do some stupid
things with the ball and make mistakes that he should

(38:19):
not be making. And so that is part of the equation.
And you just don't have a point guard where you
look at me and you're like, Okay, the ball is
in his hands at the end of a game, you
you know that he's going to be able to deliver
or make good decisions with the ball. It gets too
frantic at times, and you don't have, you know, a

(38:42):
point guard that it can take control of the game
by being that rudder that a team needs. That's that's
that's part of the equation as well. Dean says, I'm
not I'm sure free throw difference didn't have anything to
do with it. Again, Indiana shots seven free throws, went
three of seven from free throw line. Oregon went nineteen

(39:02):
to twenty one. Life on the road in the Big
Ten that's part of it. To the files you don't
call that are as important as the ones that you do.
Look over some of the stats in this one Indiana again,
seventy three sixty four loss. Before we get to that,

(39:23):
let me go ahead and bring up another call of caller.
I have your name, where you're from, and what you got?

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Yeah, Hey, how's it going? This is Bill from Bouley.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
How are you? Hey?

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Bill? How you doing?

Speaker 5 (39:36):
Hey good?

Speaker 4 (39:36):
You mentioned spring football. Not to go off topic, but
once basketball is over, you ever get out do any
fishing or anything a morel hunt?

Speaker 5 (39:45):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
I've never gone morel hunting because I've never gone muchroom
hunting at all, and there's no doubt I'd either end
up dead or high as a kite, one of the two.
I would not know which ones to pick if I
needed to, So that isa, Yeah, So that's not it.
Fishing I'll do Yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
Yeah, I've got a few buddies of mine. We're down
near Santa Claus. We head up north. Big Bobby Knight
fans obviously, I know he's a big fisherman and hunter
and stuff, so we get kind of into that. Didn't
know if you ever joined up with some of the
gang after the season and stuff. So yeah, I'm just
as curious if you wanted to join.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
So I appreciate that. I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Let me know.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Okay, yeah, we'll do Okay, thanks a lot. How about that.
You guys are the best. That's very exciting get asked
to go fishing. I'm off about that for sure. Let's
talk about some of the stats in this one in

(40:46):
Indiana seventy three sixty four loss. I'll keep monitoring too.
We never did get Mike Woodson press conference after the
game the other day, I know that. And this was
a topic of conversation on the hig's message board about
the fact that we didn't have anybody out covering either
the UH Washington game or the Oregon game live at

(41:09):
the arena. I'm not gonna do. We have a ton
of coverage of these games, and so we don't have
any anybody live on site because there's also a pretty
gigantic travel cost that goes with with going out to
cover these these games, and so for two games, we

(41:31):
could cover it from a distance and be in good shape.
So I don't believe we're going to hear from Mike
Woodson today. Well, you know, we'll see if if I'm
able to get some kind of audio along the way,
but that remains to be seen. One thing that I
did want to talk about, though, is just the the

(41:53):
numbers here for today. Indiana was led by Trey Galloway
sixteen points on seven to fourteen shooting, went two of
four from the three point range. Didn't get to the
free throw line though, and that's interesting in and of itself.
Three rebounds, four assists, but three turnovers thirty one minutes.

(42:14):
He was minus three on the day. Lumbarbllo ten points
on five to seven shooting, didn't get to the free
throw line, twelve rebounds, so it was effective with that
just two turnovers, had a block and a steal in
thirty minutes. Had Mackenzie and Bacco eight points, two of
ten shooting two of five from three point range. The

(42:37):
only starter to get to the free throw line was
Mackenzie and Baco added five rebounds in an assist and
a block. Played twenty minutes. Was minus eight on the date.
Round Luke Goody's six points on two of six shooting.
Both of those were three pointers that he made one
in each half, and he adds two rebounds and had

(43:00):
two steals in twenty six minutes. He led the team
at minus thirteen. Anthony Lele four points on two to
two shooting, two rebounds for assists, one turnover, two steals,
minus six and twenty three minutes. Leo was really good
defensively though, and even though that minus six is there,
he was really good defensively. Off the bench, Malik Renewed

(43:21):
eight points on four of twelve shooting, missed all three
of his free throw attempts. He added six rebounds in
three blocks in twenty seven minutes. Canaan Carlisle eight points
on three to seven shooting two of five from three
point range, adds a couple of rebounds in seventeen minutes
and rounding out the guys who played, Miles Rice four
points on one of seven shooting one to five from

(43:42):
three point range, adds one rebound for assists versus two
turnovers in twenty six minutes, and was minus four on
the day. Renew his lack of scoring was a bit disappointing.
He struggled with Oregon's length and also the fact that

(44:05):
he was slow to recognize double teams when they're coming.
And I know some people are pissed about the lack
of whistles that he got, especially at times when he
was trying to squeeze through defenders, And that to me,
if you're squeezing through defenders, you are also creating that contact,
and so I see it called all the time both ways.

(44:29):
But if you don't get a call in that situation
you're trying to squeeze through to move those guys out
of the way, you have to move them out of
the way. I don't get as upset about those non
calls as you have out there. But you did have
just three players in the lineup who shot free throws,
and that really stands out in this one, especially when

(44:51):
you're talking about scoring thirty two points in the paint. Hoosiers,
with fifteen assists on twenty six made baskets, had ten
turnovers on the night. Uh Oregon walks off with a
nine point win, all of that coming in the last
minute and a half because the Hoosiers UH Oregon scored

(45:14):
and finished the season on us finished the game on
a ten to nothing run to close out the game.
So that is uh is your margin of victory. Indiana
scores thirty two points in each half and you just
had better balance from Oregon. Shlstad had seventeen points and

(45:38):
five to thirteen shooting. You know, bomb I had thirteen points,
Biddle had fourteen points. Bill had fourteen points on just
three of ten shooting, and he went to the free
throw line eight times. You see that with bollow ten
points on five to seven shooting. You see that difference

(46:00):
that's there, and some of that is being on the road.
Some of that is being what Indiana was doing in
terms of the double teams coming and him passing out
of it. Bottom line is Indiana, We're gonna end up
getting to the free throw line a hell of a
lot more seventeen times in the second half versus just
two for the Hoosiers, and that that tells the story.

(46:26):
Eight one, two, three, nine three, twenty six hundred is
a number. We got another caller call it for your name,
where you're from and what you got?

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yeah, Hey at KB, it's it's Kimmel from Andrews.

Speaker 5 (46:39):
How are you doing tonight?

Speaker 4 (46:40):
Good?

Speaker 1 (46:40):
How you doing?

Speaker 5 (46:41):
Question? I'm great?

Speaker 2 (46:43):
I thought the boy fought fought hard.

Speaker 5 (46:45):
Not can't complain with that. On the road, victory is
hard to come by.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
If we could talk a little bit about who you
think's got that best chance coming up? I've read inside
the Hall. They they're breaking down, you know, coaching candidate
from Brunel, the the sellout there at Arizona, Chris Beard,
who you think that the best chance. I'm gonna call

(47:12):
up and or hang up and let's you call I appreciation,
let me go, thanks for your show.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
I appreciate it. Thank you so much. Yeah, it's coaching search.
I give Indiana a ton of credit, and I give
Scott Dolson and and the whole group a ton of
credit because they have been very tight lipped about it.
But you know what you have to be when you're
talking about hiring coach that's currently coaching. He has a job,
So you don't want the rumor milt to pick up

(47:40):
too much. I think Scott Drew's going to be a
very important name that is going to be there, uh,
especially with Brad Stevens and uh, Dusty May kind of
out of the picture. There's that Mick Cronin is another
guy that there's a lot of chatter about. Buzz Williams

(48:00):
I think is on another tier down a little bit
lower than that, along with Brad brown Ow again, Greg
McDermott's name gets mentioned. Uh that name is one that
again just because of the age is what is something
that really gives me pause. Because you want a guy

(48:22):
that's going to be a little bit younger, a little
bit uh uh, more energetic, more ready to hit the
road and work hard on the recruiting trail. It would
be quite a change from what we've seen from our
current head coach.

Speaker 5 (48:41):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
You know, a guy like uh you you hear things
about Grant McCaslin and a lot of different guys. Chris Beard,
I feel is just a non starter. Again, you could
look at the baggage that he has, you know, any
way you want to at Indie, at Indiana, if you

(49:03):
have to deal with that at all, I feel like
you are going to uh shy away from that. You're
gonna shy away from it because if we're starting fresh,
we don't want to start with a yeah. But that's
what happened with Calvin Sampson. And it's certainly a apples

(49:25):
and oranges situation. But baggage is baggage and so that
that to me is gonna be uh a big part
of it. This is gonna stretch out for a little
while longer because hopefully, if you are IU, you want
your next coach to be coaching for a while in
the NCAA tournament before you make the move. So we

(49:47):
will see how this uh this all works out. Stayed
you know with stick with peaks dot com for any
kind of uh news that that may crop up. I'll
tell you right now, this is an Indiana program, an
Indiana Athletic Department that is as tight lipped as I
have seen them about this kind of stuff, So that

(50:09):
is the right way to do it, so I'm not
not going to complain about it at all. Eight one, two, three, nine, three,
twenty six hundred is the number as we have crossed
the midnight hour and it is now Wednesday morning here
in the home studio here in Ellensville, Indiana, just outside

(50:30):
of Bloomington. I've already been invited to go hunting mushrooms
and fishing, so that's exciting. Been asked about bar plans
for the Big ten tournament. That is exciting. It's been
a good show so far. But I know people have
to work in the morning as well, and I can

(50:52):
feel coughs coming on, so I might be wrapping this
up very shortly, but The question is now what for
Indiana against Ohio State in their next outing. That to
me is the uh the question as I as I
see on the Chad Timbo slice, which great screen name

(51:13):
by the way, UH just got done watching the game
on DVR, I'm dead inside. Hey, welcome to me in
twenty fifteen. So there's when nothing really gets me fired
up anymore. Is that they They've done that. It's it is.
The disappointment is hard. It's hard and all I don't,

(51:38):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (51:39):
I just.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
This team. You see moments when they play how they
could have been playing all year long and playing with
the kind of aggressiveness and energy, and then there are
stretches when they don't. This today wasn't as egregious as
we've seen in the past. And I do think Indiana's
movement on offense has been better in the past couple

(52:05):
of weeks basically since Woodson made that the decision was
made on Woodson. This team has moved different offensively than
we had seen earlier in the year, where you would
watch them for a possession and just think, what the
hell was that. You're seeing a lot fewer early shot

(52:25):
clock shots. Indiana's running what feels like a far more
organized attack than it previously has been and that has
allowed Indiana to be competitive. Now you have the last
regular season game of the season coming up against Ohio

(52:47):
State on Saturday. Tip Off is at three forty five
pm at Simon Scott Assembly Hall. A reminder of when
Indiana played Ohio State the first time around, it was
big games from Luke Goodie and Umar bollow that made
the huge difference for the Hoosiers. Good he played forty

(53:09):
one minutes in that game, scored twenty three points. Babow
had twenty one points and sixteen rebounds, four assists. He
was all over the floor. They're gonna need that same
kind of effort against Ohio State to win on Saturday.
This Saturday game is interesting because senior Knights tend to

(53:29):
be pretty emotional, and certainly this isn't going to be
really any different. The key for me on this one
is who these seniors are and who's going to be
going through this. You know, Umar Ballow is going to

(53:51):
be going through it, Trey Galloway for sure, Anthony Lele
obviously Gallo and Leol went through it last year. You're
gonna have Luke Goodie You're gonna have Langdon Hatten going through.
You know, a couple of walk Ons as well, So

(54:12):
you have a number of guys going through. But of
that group that I just talked about, what's the emotional
attachment among that group. You've cheered for Goodie this year,
You've cheered for umar Balo this year. But in terms
of a long term emotional attachment, it's lel and Galloway

(54:35):
and they've already done one speech, so this will be interesting.
Then you have course, you have Mike Woodson and this
will be his last senior night. That's going to be
something that will it be an emotional outing? What will
the response be when Woodson steps to that microphone. It's

(54:58):
gonna be interesting and it's it's not going to be
an easy game no matter what. That's going to be
something to really pay attention to. Eight one, two, three, nine, three,
twenty six hundred is the numbers. The last call for calls.
We do have a caller on the line. Caller, if
you give me a name, where you're from, and what
you got.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
Hey, what's up?

Speaker 3 (55:17):
Ken?

Speaker 4 (55:17):
This is Carston from Pine Valley.

Speaker 5 (55:20):
How are you doing to night?

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Good? Where's Pine Valley?

Speaker 5 (55:24):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (55:24):
Up? The north side of Fort Wayne.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Ah, Okay, only Pine Valley. I heard as I think
when I was a kid, my grandmother watched a soap
opera where I think the town was called Pine Valley.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
That was the eighties. It's a real place up here
that was probably built in the eighties, north side of
Fort Wayne. I'll tell you that. All right, Well, I
called in for something else, but I think you made
a great point as I was sitting here kind of
waiting listening. You know, So if we go back to
Senior Night last year, of course had the Galway Leo speeches,

(55:57):
which you know, they kind of go down and hiss
three and and and maybe not in the best way.
And it kind of feels like Mike Woodson commandeered uh
Senior Night a little bit and kind of made it
all about himself and uh weird. I kind of got
to think that we might have a repeat of that,
you know, where we've got these guys that have played

(56:20):
hard and that we have cheered for. Like you said,
but I could see very clearly with with some of
the ego of Mike Woodson, that that possibly the postgame
Ohio State stuff becomes all about coach Woodson's last game
at IU, What do you think about that?

Speaker 1 (56:40):
It's a possibility for sure. I mean, he hasn't talked
about his resignation yet. He it has been a he'll uh,
you know, he'll, he'll talk about it and when the
time is appropriate. Well, we're running out of time for that,
unless you're planning a post game, postseason press conference, which
would be unusual. So I feel like, you know, if

(57:03):
he's going to talk about him stepping away, it is
going to be probably in front of a live microphone,
in front of the whole crowd. I know that Mike
Woodson feels like he's done a good job at IU,
feels that this is somewhat unfair, more more than somewhat unfair,
that he's resigning and walking away from the program. He

(57:26):
you know, it tells the announcers you hear at every
single game where they're saying, you know, about how well,
it's not about the basketball stuff. That's not what his
resignation is about. In all of this, bottom line is
you signed on saying that you were going to make
Indiana competitive for a Big Ten championship, going to be

(57:47):
an NCAA tournament team, be competitive deep into the tournament.
You know, we don't know what the future holds this year,
but to this point, yeah, you've gotten into the tournament,
but you've squeaked did in a first four situation. You
kind of have the same kind of situation coming up
this year if you don't, if you lose on Saturday,

(58:08):
then you're really talking about some troubles there. So to me,
it's going to be fascinating to see what he has
to say and also see how the players were act
because obviously last year we had the true fans situation
and some of the comments that Leo and Gallio had,
So it's going to be very interesting, to say the least.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
Do you think there's any danger in that going terribly
wrong based on Mike Woodson's personality, that this could be
a bad situation to give him a microphone or do
you think he's professional enough that it'll all be on
the up and up.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
I don't know. I'll say this, I don't know this
for sure, but I am assuming that is often the
case that any separation agreement that may exist UH when
coaches leaving these situations, they include you don't trash talk
on your way out, you don't bad bad don't bad

(59:11):
mount the program, So that's part of it. Plus, I mean,
in terms of going bad, I'm not really sure what
it is that could go bad and and be a problem,
because either way he's he's walking away. I mean that
that is that is the end of uh, the ultimate
end of the story. So I don't think that there's
anything anybody who's watched the program doesn't think. You know,

(59:34):
Indiana was being hasty on this thing, and that that
that's kind of the key here.

Speaker 4 (59:38):
Well, I think Mike Woodson, like you said, has indicated
that he feels like he's done a good job. I think,
you know, queue up the SoundBite here for me. But
you know, I think his big thing is he hasn't
been able to get him over the Yeah there he is,
I like it can. So I think, you know, again,

(59:59):
I think you think he's close, and I think a
lot of the rest of us don't think he's close.
And I think that difference could be where, you know, potentially,
you know, different opinions lead to some some sometimes some
bad things. But I do agree with you. I think
Indiana is hopefully professional enough to put something on there
where you know, he's not allowed to say that well,

(01:00:20):
I actually called in though. Uh So, it's no secret
I'm a big, big Chris Beard fan, okay, and I
would love nothing more than for Indiana to hire Chris Beard.
I think he wins. I think he's great. I do
think it would make bigger headlines in Bloomington than it

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would Austin if we had a situation like what happened
at Texas, and I think that would be something to avoid.
I certainly understand that, but I also think just the
political climate of Indiana just doesn't allow them to hire
a guy like Chris Beard. And so if I was
gonna go number two, a guy who I don't think

(01:01:02):
is gonna let you down, and he just continues to
not be named, and it baffles my mind that he's
not named. And I understand that we've had a tough
situation here, but I don't understand why Steve Alford is
just not at the top of the list. He's one
everywhere he's gone. I understand he's one of ours and
it didn't work this time, but that doesn't mean it's

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not gonna work again. He's won everywhere. I know he's
getting a little bit older, but he's never gonna let
you down. Doesn't seem like there's any moral issues like Beard,
And again I love Beard. I just think Indiana is
too liberal to hire him. But again, if that's the case,
then let's go for a guy like Alford. That's actually
why I called in. I thought you made some great

(01:01:44):
points about other things. It just boggles my mind why
we can't get Alfered because I think he checks all
the boxes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Okay, so Alford should have been hired by Indiana when
they hired Mike Davis to be the perm and a
head coach. That's when Alford should have been hired. As
in DNA, that was a mistake. That was Miles Brand's fault.
I want to make that clear. That was Miles Brand's call,
and that was a mistake. As much as I like

(01:02:14):
Mike Davis and as well as I think he did
in a real bad situation, that Alford should have been
uh hired at that point. I think the key for
Alford has to do with just the fact that at
this point he's older. Like you said, we just went

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the route. I'd have been even fine with Alford the
last time that he was that we were going through
this a couple of years ago. He's had success along
the way, not deep success, but he's had success at times.
But he has worn out his welcome at multiple places
as well. I just think it's it's at this point,

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it's it's the age that's a bigger problem to me
than anything else. Plus him being my all time favorite
IU player. You know, I don't have to go through
the struggle of restraining myself from hugging him every time
I see him. So there's that too.

Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
Well, Ken, I appreciate your time. I appreciate you doing
the call, and again, I really hope we get the
coaching search right. That's why I called in, and I
really hope Senior Night goes right. I you know, again,
Coach Knight made some great sound bites at Senior Night
and in Assembly Hall that we're unexpected. If Mike Woodson
makes an unexpected SoundBite, boy, I hope it's positive like

(01:03:38):
Coach Knights could have been. But again, that's what I
had for tonight. I appreciate you have a good evening.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
I appreciate it. Thanks so much for the call. Yep. Yeah,
for my little soundboard. I've been trying to find an
uncensored version of Knight's poem that I love so much.
I love it so much that I actually designed up
a photo and had it made my dad kept in
his office for several years. And when my time on

(01:04:08):
Earth has gone and my activities here are passed, I
want they bury me upside down and my critics can
kiss my ass. Love that. I'm looking for the non
bleeped version of that. I'm not a bleeped kind of guy.
But Indiana goes to Oregon, finishes out the West Coast Road,
swing one and one win over Washington and easy, you can,

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a very easy win against Oregon, fall by nine points.
The Hoosiers led by as many as three and led
with a minute and a half to go and then
couldn't clear it out. Hoods also deserved a lot of
credit too, because they were able to bounce back from

(01:04:51):
a nine point deficit in the second half rather late
in the first half and made this thing. You're competitive.
I guess that was early in the second half. Maybe, No,
what was that score along the way mine's going. It

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was late in the first half, I believe they were.
They were down by seven and yeah nine in the
first half, came back lose by nine, moved to eighteen
and twelve on the season. I feel like twenty wins
is really important for the Hoosiers, So beating Ohio State

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is going to be real, real critical, and you don't
want to have that loss. Indiana's middle of the pack
in the Big Ten, so is Ohio State, and that's
who is next up on the docket here. But for
the time being, Indiana's a couple of days to get ready,

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recover from that West Coast swing and get ready to
take on the Buckeyes, who sit at seventeen and thirteen overall,
nine to ten in Big Ten play, and they will
present plenty of challenges for the Hoosiers because these are
two very, very evenly matched teams. Well, what's all the
time we have on the Peaks postgame Live. I want

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