Peegs Postgame LIVE: Oregon -- March 13, 2025

The Hoosiers' stay in the Big Ten Tournament was short, and now they'll have to sweat on Selection Sunday to see if they'll get an invite to the Big Dance. We took your calls and got your thoughts on IU's latest defeat.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hi, you doing everybody. I'm Ken Bikoff and welcome to
the Peaks postgame Live Indiana. They're stay in the Big
Ten Tournament is short as they lose in the first round.
Excuse me, seventy two to fifty nine, thirteen point loss
to the eighth seeded Oregon Ducks. Second time Indiana has
lost to the Ducks in just a very short amount

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of time, and it certainly is going to make a
selection Sunday a lot more interesting for the Hoosiers. Eight one, two, three,
nine to three, twenty six hundred is the number as
we get going. I know a lot of you are
watching me from your office, and I'm excited about that.
Also excited it's a little bit warmer out right now,

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which is why I'm rocking a Key West shirt for this,
just because I enjoy the fact that it's a little
bit warm are out. Key West is the best place
on the planet. So but the Hoosiers have work to
do or they have to keep some fingers crossed when
it comes to what they're going to be seeing in

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other not just the Big Ten Tournament, but other tournaments
around the country. This is where when you lose a
game like this and close out your season prior to
the to selection Sunday with less than twenty losses, less
than twenty victories, you have thirteen losses. There have been

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a number of teams that have gone to the tournament
with fourteen losses. At large bids are tougher to come
by when you're talking about thirteen losses, though, and finishing
very middle of the pack in the Big Ten, losing
to a team that was an eight seed in the
Big Ten tournament but is expected to be a five
seed in the NCAA tournament.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
And.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
You have just an Indiana team that's really really inconsistent.
It simply couldn't get over the hump. I just used
the word there. It is right there.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
No, it's the coach. I gotta I gotta get us
over that hump.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
I didn't mean to do that. I didn't mean to
actually say that. It just kind of fell out of
my face. So I figured ed led Woodson do that.
You know. The issue here, though, is that Indiana made
just two of its last eleven shots simply would reach
Oregon but not be able to pass them. It's a

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lot like uh, it's it's an old saying in NASCAR
that It's one thing to catch a guy, it's another
thing to pass them. And that's kind of where Indiana
was with Oregon, as the Hoosiers simply couldn't do enough defensively.
Oregon shot forty nine point one percent from the field overall,
including forty seven point eight percent in the second half,
which means Oregon shot better in the first half than

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it did in the second half still managed to outscore
the Hoosiers by It was an interesting first half because
of the fact that Indiana was down by eight at
the break, but when you look at what the teams
where they were in that first half, Oregon was up
by eight despite the fact they turned the ball over

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nine times and Indiana had twelve assists on thirteen made baskets.
Hoosiers were playing well in the first half and still
found themselves eight points back at the break. You get
into the second half, the Hoosiers made a nice push
right off the bat, but then just could never get
and string together enough stops to get by the Ducks.

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Eight one, two, three, nine three twenty six hundred is
the number. Pick up the phone and call, or feel
free to throw some questions on the chat. The Hoosiers
again moved to nineteen and thirteen on the season, and
that is a challenge for them. That record is a challenge.
You needed to string together some wins and they didn't

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do it. And now that they're at this point of
being nineteen and thirteen in a quick out in the
Big Ten Tournament, you just wonder what we're going to
see over the next couple of days. That's where I
think it's interesting. Indiana shoots thirty six percent from the
field overall twenty five of sixty nine. Oregon only took

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fifty three shots. In other words, the Hoosiers took sixteen
more shots than Oregon, but actually made one fewer field
goal along the way. Indiana did a nice job on
the offensive glass in this one. They out rebounded Oregon
thirteen to five on the offensive glass and still only

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outscored the Ducks on second chance points nine to six.
So that that to me is a little bit telling
of where where these Hoosiers are. And you know, this
is not a team that has been lacking for for support.
The who's your faithful have been there for Indiana. They

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have been there, you know, ever since that announcement was made,
and honestly before the announcement was made. You know, you
could talk about the fact that people booed the Hoosiers
at home, but it was a matter they expect more
than what they were getting at the time. But since
that announcement has made and Indiana has turned in a

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lot more effort on the court than we were seeing
there for an amount of time, the support was there,
and in Indianapolis, it's always going to be there, and
instead you just did not have anywhere near enough for
what the Hoosiers were going to do. A little home

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in mind my headphones, I don't care for that. Moe
on the chat says, well, at least the ad could
save a few bucks on hotel rooms. Tony says, this
game was set up for an IU win and to
play like this, And I think that's where the frustration
is with this ball club is you do see just

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too money instances of just things breaking down and just
seeing teams execute at a higher level. Luke Goody in
this one, I'm not pointing fingers at Luke Goodie. There's
a lot of trouble to go around, but just one
point in thirty three minutes five from the field overall,

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or four from three point range. Miles Rice is the
one that really stands out to me because there got
to be a time late in the game when it
sure did was It did seem like a matter of
it was me time for Miles Rice. And he finishes
scoreless in twenty eight minutes oh five from the field

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overall oh of one from three point range. He did
have h five assists, so it's not like he was
he was awful, but that was really something that stood out.
There was at some point he started to force it
and that has been a trend with him. That has
been a trend, and that that to me, should be

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a huge concern for this this Indiana. Uh, well, you know,
we're at the point where we're paying we're beyond concern.
We're beyond concern because we don't know if Indiana is
gonna play again, it's gonna get an NCAA tournament bid.
Uh accept an invitation of the n I t We'll
see what it's you know what that means going down

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the way. Chris on the chat says, I hope I
you doesn't make the tournament so we could finally move
on from Woodson as soon as possible. That is not
an unusual feeling or an uncommon feeling above the hoos
You're faithful right now, there are plenty of people that
are tired of having their hearts broken, tired of the

(08:12):
same game being played over and over and over again,
and so it's it's not unusual. Hey, let's put an
end to this. Let's let's get this over whereas let's
turn the page as soon as we can. That is not,
uh an unusual or uncommon feeling, and that's something that's
been around for for a little while. Here. Peter on

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the chat says, do you really want to see this
team play anymore? There are stretches when the Hoosiers have
been great second half against Purdue. You know that that's
that's you know, one of them that that really stands out,
beating Michigan State at Michigan State. These are games that

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really do stand out. But game in, game out, you know,
who are the guys that that really blow you away
and make it so that it's pretty basketball and that
that is what has been lacking. They go over some
of the individual stats, but first we have our first caller. Caller,
if I can have your name, where you're from, and

(09:15):
what you got As they click on you.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Hey, Okay, Kevin Mahara talked to you before.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Hey, Kevin, how do.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
You do it?

Speaker 4 (09:24):
Four time?

Speaker 5 (09:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Yeah, well I'm doing well, but i'm i'm I'm there's
some serious question. Maybe can answer number one. Who is
our hottest offensive play in the first half for ken Liambaco? Okay,
without question, right, he had ten right and he was
shooting the ball. I mean they were good shots, knocking
the going threes down. He gets a second file and

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he sits for almost the rest of the first half.
So we're talking nine, ten, elevenes something.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, he played nine minutes in the first half.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
Okay, So again, great coaching move, right, Just you got
to win the ball game. You can't work if he
files out. You got because because Anthony Leo was okay,
but he couldn't make free throws.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Good.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
This is the worst. This is the worst game I've
seen Goodie places he's been there. He just he was
alone in the gym. He couldn't make a layup today.
He was just bad, I mean the way to describe it.
So you take him out and then you go to
a non scoring lineup literally and he leaves them in
there forever and ever and ever and ever made no sense.
That that alone tells you that. And I think Mike

(10:31):
Goch is a great guy. I think he's a great player,
great legacy, but he's rude. His legacy at IU, he's
he's he didn't have. People don't like him anymore. They
you know what, right, wrong or different. Those are facts.
And he showed right then and there that he has
no feel for the college game in any way, shape
or form. Then in the second half he does it

(10:53):
again once and and Baco got started going a little bit,
and then b got a third fall, set him out,
set him out, and then he brings it back in
and you so on the bench, and Bacco kept looking
at him like, come on, right, he didn't do anything,
okay uh? And then you know, Blik Renney is a
nice player, but Malik Renew is very, very soft. He
missed what five or six layups today missed him. He

(11:17):
did n points well, he did, but he left at
least ten at least ten undeath by by just going
up strong. And if you don't make it, draw on
the file. But instead he he you know, he was soft.
There's no way to describe it. I don't know what
happened to Botow today. He just was horrible today period,

(11:37):
like he did, and he looked like you want to.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Be there, struggled against guys that are the same size,
and that that has been all year. That the second
he runs into somebody that's the same size as him,
he has a problem.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
And that tells you that he's kind of soft. I
guess maybe that maybe there's a better term I think this.
I don't think. I hope that uh Dosa says we're
not playing him if we don't make it turn the
we're done, We're not onto the crown, Nuba and I
need to move on now. We got to find a coach, Mike,
thank you, But but gon and and honestly, I don't know.

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I mean, do they clean out the entire roster and
start all over again?

Speaker 1 (12:13):
I think because I think there's a real chance that
we're going to see not not maybe like a cream
first year situation, but I do think that there's going
to be drastic changes to this roster uh next season. Yeah,
I do think you're going to need a program to
to figure out who's on the team, you know, And.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
I think the first thing, I mean, Trey Galloway has
gotten better and better. He had a couple of miscuseated
were just what are you doing? Trey? But as a
whole I have a problem with him. I was disappointed
Antie Anthony Leeland couldn't make a free throw, couldn't make
a free throw, you know, I mean we missed six
or seven of But I mean, what what they get.
I just listened to a Bombo on TV. Wow did

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he trash and did he trash us? He trashed us?
He called out Woodson said, hey, complained to have the
game out. We're going to show today we beat you
Sola the first time. We're going to beat you solid again.
This time. Fish has had nothing to do with it.
He he just he called us out as not being
physically tough on defense. You know, we got embarrassed in
a post game. Sodolcin's got to make. I don't know

(13:14):
who's gonna get. I'm not going to chime in on
who it should be. I still think behind the scenes quietly,
and I know people are going to say they don't
like this, but I still think Chris Beer's the guy
that he's the guy we got to get because he's tough.
SOB doesn't put up with stuff. Yeah, he's got some baggage,
but you know, okay, if there's been no problems since,

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and if he's cleaned with it since, then we go.
Everybody makes a mistake, that's who I think it should
because I want a guy who's got the chitsbuh, that
we'll get in players' faces and won't put up with
their crap and say this is how we're gonna do it.
And we're going to have to play the game the
right way. Because we don't play the game the right way.
We're fundamentally not very good. But this was you know,

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I kept saying to myself every time we got we
had five chances, we were down by two, didn't tie
it up, we had three chances, went didn't tie it up,
and go ahead. I said, if we can't tie them
up again, ahead at all. We're not gonna win this thing.
And guess what it didn't, you know? And then down
the stretch, you know, I and and you know, I
don't know if Rice is a good player or not.
I just don't know. Sure, I don't know if it's

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Woodson in the staff. So I'm going to give it
back to you, but your thoughts will be but this
is this is a bad loss, and I think anxius
out of the term. I really don't justifiably so, and
it very well could.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
To your point about the layups, Indiana was thirteen and
twenty seven on layups.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
Today, So that that you and I would well, I
think you would agree with me on this. You and
I know this. Sometimes those kind of shots are just
you make them because you have heart and you go
up strong. If they not get to the floor, you
go on to the line. But you got to go
up tough and strong. Yeah, I can't back away, can't
be soft. And the team is a whole, not everybody,

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the whole is a very very soft they are I
hate to say it this way. Mike Woodson didn't play
soft that he played, but he coached soft when he coached,
and reflected that his coaching they're soft.

Speaker 6 (15:09):
That's that.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
So anyway, tell yours I did mean to take up
too much of your time.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Absolutely, I appreciate it. Thanks a lot, Like real real quick.
We get we have a color that that I'm gonna
get to, but you know, we have a your your
comments on Chris Beard, I know there's a lot of
people that feel that way. I know that, uh, Chris Beard,
you know, has been looked at by you know, different

(15:33):
different groups. Things that I've heard is that, you know, yeah,
you have your public stuff and there's some other stuff
that isn't necessarily great. So I still don't think Indiana
is going to be going after Chris Beard. I could
be dead wrong, but I I really would be stunned
if if Indiana went that direction. He's successful, But is

(15:55):
that the best option that comes without you know, a
lot of other eyebrows raised that. That's a question to ask.
Got another caller? Eight one, two, three, nine, six hundred
is the number I want to hear from you. Caller,
You name where you're from and what you got.

Speaker 7 (16:12):
Hey can This is Peter from California.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Hi, Peter, how are you doing.

Speaker 7 (16:17):
I'm doing well. I'm definitely deflated, but I'm not surprised,
you know. I just when this game expecting I thought
it would end more likely like this. I think Oregon
is a tougher team. I just I agree with the
last caller. We just you know, we had a lot
of points down on the pain but there's a lot

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of bunnies that they just don't go up strong. And
I know they have a seven footer and it's tough.
But this is throughout the season, and it is something
that really frustrates me. You know, Baba is a big guy,
and like you said, he gets flustered with guys in
the same size, but you know, sometimes it's there for
the taking and they just don't finish. And it's so
frustrating because those points matter and that that fight matters,

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and it's you know, they you know, there's there's their
schedules softened and they played better and they fought and
they scrapped out some wins. But I mean, you you know,
you could just tell that that once you know, the
scoring dried up, where are they going to go? And
they just didn't. They looked out of sorts, and you know,
it's just it's so disheartening because I just feel like,

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you know, it's another year squandered opportunities, and you know,
just it's just tough.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Really, following renew combined to go twelve of twenty six
on the day, and again that that number of thirteen
to twenty seven on layups, Uh, that is staggering to
be under fifty percent on layups, which it is go
to the bucket you know, take some contact be able
to do that. But if you look at kind of
what this season has been about, Renew has a very

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nice hook over his left shoulder and that's that's about
the only post move that he brings, you know, over
and over and over again to that left shoulders, very
effective with it. But that's basically what he has with Ballow.
He's not blessed with a ton of uh of post
moves either. He's big, he could get to the bucket.
He could he could score around the bucket, but in
terms of getting him the ball and allowing him to operate,

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there's not a lot there. And so you have to
be able to convert when you're right at the rim,
and if you don't, then that's a problem.

Speaker 7 (18:22):
Well that's exactly it. I mean when they when they
got Ballow, I was not I mean, he's a nice piece,
but I mean I think he was overhyped. And it's
not to knock this game, but like you just he's limited,
you know what I mean. And that's exactly right. Like
if you're if you're if you're so limited around the basket,
you have to go up strong. You have to have
some type of advantage you know, and it's just and

(18:44):
I you know, I know Renew doesn't have the athleticism
and you know he does have some you know that
that hook shot, and he is more of a finesse player.
But it's just it's we just get exposed with teams
that are tougher and there's no question Organs for mentally
more mentally strong team. And it's just deflating because you

(19:05):
can see it and it's everything has to go right
for Indiana to win. And in very few cases this
year and throughout Woodson's you know, ten year, it you know,
it's almost like the produced second half with everything going right.
It was, it was incredible. But I mean that's exactly it.
It has to it has to happen like that for
them really to go once things once they face a

(19:27):
little adversity. It's just it just seems like it just
seems like there's just no options and everybody's playing isolation
or just taking jump shots. And I don't know, it's
just and that's where I kind of with Woodson, that's
where I get frustrated. I just there's a lot of things,
but I do think it's in game coaching. Sometimes I
just feel like you know, and he's notorious for saying,

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you know, they didn't, that's acute or putting it on
the players, but he just doesn't. They don't stick to
any plan that they may have going in and it
becomes a lot of, like I said, isolation basketball.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Well, at the very least, you know, with the isolation basketball,
Indiana did have twenty two assists on twenty five made
baskets today, So at the very least, I know what
you're you're talking about. I think the isolation comes is
when they missed the shots. That's when they're not being
set up. When they they follow a plan, they help
each other out, they play good team basketball. It's far
more effective than what they're they're dealing with. But you

(20:23):
have that too much. Like I said, there is a
stretch there. It's just a couple of possessions by Miles
Rice later in the second half where he decided it's
me time and I'm going to get our team back
into this, and he forced things and Oregon scored on
the other end and it went ahead, and it let
let Oregon kind of suck the momentum away from Indiana,
and it was all because Miles Rice was doing trying

(20:46):
to do too much himself instead of sticking to what
had been effective, you know, earlier in the half.

Speaker 7 (20:52):
Yeah, and that's exactly right. It just seems like and
so like, and that was one of the you know, obviously,
I think we all saw with Carlisle. He would come
in and he would see if he you know, if
his shot was falling. But it always seem when that
miss would happen, it would translate the points for the
other team, and it just it just exposes the team
for not having, you know, not sticking to a planner,

(21:12):
being cohesive. You're absolutely right.

Speaker 8 (21:14):
I was.

Speaker 7 (21:15):
I was puzzled with goodies. It was it was too
bad to see him come out and you know, not
be a factor because we really need him. I mean,
we need those players, and you know, they had an
awful game. But it's you know, I mean, we're the
organ is a better team, and it's just I just
have to kind of you know, you know, we're my
whole family, went IU. We just have to accept that

(21:35):
this year is what it is. And you know, I
hope they can write this ship. I you know, I
love the program uh so much, we all do. But uh,
you know, it's tough. It is tough, and you know,
I appreciate what you do and I do want the
season to be over though, I really do, because it's
just you know, we if we back into the tournament,

(21:56):
it's just yeah, I would be great to have this
like you know or two here, but it just just
needs to We just need to move forward. And that's
where I'm at with the program. I just I want
it to be over and I don't want Chris Beard
and it's not happening. But anyway, I just wanted to
call thank you for what you did, and I'll check
in next time.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Okay, I appreciate it. Thanks so much for the call.

Speaker 7 (22:18):
All right, cheers.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
A lot there, and I don't disagree with him, and
I just wanted to mention something that's you know, going
on the chat has to do with Chris Beard and
people you know, saying, you know that Beard, you know,
so he has some baggage, so what so what so what?

(22:45):
Bob Knight had baggage and people still praise him. Uh,
there's the public stuff and then the stuff that you
hear in the background that is not great with Chris Beard.
I won't go go any farther than that, but you
you you hear some things, and there's a reason why

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these schools are shying away from him, and it has
nothing to do with well, he had one incident and
that was it. Otherwise he's been a choir boy. I'm
not going to go that far with that, just just
not going to eight, one, two, three, nine, three, twenty

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six hundred is the number again. I would be stunned
if Indiana went that direction when it comes to the
new head coach. We have another caller on the line. Caller,
if you have your name, where.

Speaker 5 (23:39):
You're from, and what you got, Yes, this is a
Jacob Masterson.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Hello Jacob, how are you good?

Speaker 5 (23:46):
How are you I'm good, Yeah, just watching the game.
You know, one thing I have a problem with is
you know, we had it. You know, I think it
was fifty six fifty four at one point, and you know,
we go on these little spurts and runs, especially throughout
the season or in this game specifically, where we would

(24:06):
cut it to you know, two four or whatever, right,
and then we'd go down and you know, Malik renew
a couple of times. I think everyone probably noticed we
I don't know, not just him, even just like Goody
when we had it, you know, I think it's fifty
four fifty six or fifty six fifty six, and we
just got miscombobulated, and just like we were, we went
to like, oh, force a shot, we want to be
the hero kind of deal. Like, yes, they were good

(24:29):
moves to the rim by Renew. He was avoiding the
defense on his spins, but like the layups wouldn't even
come close right, and then that would you know, trigger
an organ run or they would get back up like
that five to seven range and then we could never
just you know, get back to that. I don't know
if that's if if a Mike Woodson thing where he
you know, doesn't have control over what's being said in

(24:51):
the huddle, Like what what do we need to do
in situations when we get down you know two four,
you know, we need to run sets or something or
get out and transition. That's what they you know, preached
before the season season even started. But I don't know
if your transition should involve Malik Renew, you know, doing
spins to the rim and you know missing a you know,

(25:11):
just as a layup that's not even coming close to
the rim and then it ends up in an organ transition.
You give what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, let me break down what you're talking about here,
just walking back through it. Indiana Renew scores on a
layup with seven thirty three to play to pull Indiana
within fifty six fifty four.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Then there is a missed layup by Oregon. Uh, they
get they get called for a foul or's media timeout.
On that next possession, it turns into a pull up
jumper from Goody a three that he misses that is
answered by an Oregon three. So Indiana had that opportunity
to go ahead, and instead of going up by one,

(25:52):
that swing with a three from Jenderian Tracy uh makes
it fifty nine to fifty four Oregon. Then Indiana comes
down and that's when Renew does the spin and loses
the ball. And even then Oregon misses a three. But
the Hoosiers just can't put it together. You look at
the string over the next couple of minutes, miss jumper
by Imbaco, Uh, you know, missed free throw front end

(26:15):
of a one and one by Anthony Leo Bomba scores
on a turnaround. It's a seven point game, and Oregon
never looks back.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
Yes, absolutely, you know, and I get it good he
was trying to get himself involved, but it just wasn't
his day. And you know it stinks because you want,
you know, an Indiana kid in an Indiana building, big
stage to it should have been his game, right, it
should have been his game to show out for the Hoosiers.
The you know, it just wasn't And you know, at

(26:44):
the end of the game, he's even missing a free
throw and it just wasn't his game. And you think
back on the season, especially in the first Oregon game,
you know, it wasn't in Bacco's night, right, so you
know he was forcing a couple of shots early, but today,
you know it was in Bacco's day in a way.
He was hidden shots early and stuff. And I just
feel like, you know, and read Twitter, I know that's

(27:06):
not such a big deal, but you know everyone was like, well,
in Baca needs to be in here, and Baca needs
to be in here, and I agree, like, if it's
someone's day, you know, keep him in. I mean, if
he's got it rowing, keep him in. And he was early,
and I feel like we just kept on going, putting
him on the bench and key situations, especially in the half.
You know, we call we call it time out, and

(27:28):
then right after Orgon calls a timeout, and then you know,
we still didn't make any any substitutions as far as
getting him in the game to get a potential shot off.
I just I don't, I don't know. And then in Bacco,
I mean, I'm sorry Bollo being out late. I get it,
you had to get the guys in that can shoot
maybe free throws or threes late in the game, but

(27:49):
I mean, his presence down there today was just different.
And you know, whenever they do the picking rolls with Galloway,
you know, the announcer said it a couple of times
on the game, the rolls are just different. Whenever Malik ran,
the rolls to the best and the lobs are just different.
And when when Ballows in the game, that just it
opens up Trey's game so much more does and it

(28:11):
even opens up Rice's game even more so. Whenever Ballow
is now on the floor. You know, that's from seven
minutes maybe five minutes left in the game, and you
know you're trying to roll with Maleik. I get what
they're trying to do.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
I understand it.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
But at the same time, you know Trey was getting
to the rim whenever he wanted those float games. Was
on point today most of the time. I mean at
the end of the game it wasn't, but you know,
we were getting quality. Look, we ran the same play
twice where he would come off that little that little
screen and he'd roll right in the middle for a
wide open layup, and we just kind of went away
from that. And I don't understand why that is. I mean,

(28:48):
just keep doing what you're doing, you know what I mean,
I just don't understand.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Oregon was doing a pretty poor job of defending that
coming off that curl and Trey had that floater working,
you know, going back to you're talking about it, Mbacco, Umbaco,
and he made he goes five to ten from the floor,
twelve points on the day, plays just twenty three minutes
and leads the Hoosiers in the plus in plus minus
with five. And yet in the second half alone, Umbaco,

(29:14):
he did play fourteen minutes Inbacco played fourteen minutes in
the second half, But in that first half, you know,
nine minutes and uh was plus seven, was the most
effective player on the court for the Hoosiers. So I
mean that it's Look, it's a it's a weird. Been
a weird season, weird rotations, weird everything that goes along

(29:37):
with it. Miles Rice in this one played twenty eight minutes.
It was minus twenty three. I mean, I know that
he's quick and he was one of the few guys
that could that could cover the Shelstad kid. But you know,
if he's out there and giving you nothing in Shellstad
scored eighteen points as it is, what are we getting
out of him?

Speaker 5 (29:57):
I mean, absolutely nothing? And that's just the problem. They're
the consistency issues all season, you know, not figuring out
what your starting lineup's gonna be, who's gonna be whearing
what situations. I feel like that's just been a big
debacle this year and it should be in place. You know,
we're in the Big ten tournament. We're floating in there
in the bubble with the with the NCAA tournament or

(30:20):
may not now who knows, but you know it should be.
You should have your lineup set. You should know who
you know if someone's not doing something, you know during
the game, you know, I get it, make it, make
a change. But you know, I understand what Woodsland's trying
to do with his lineup and getting the who's getting
minutes win and where. But when someone is having the game,

(30:41):
like whmbaca is happening today, he hasn't had that game
in a while. But when he's having you know, like
you're saying the plus minuses and analytics and everything else,
he should have been in the game more than he should.
I mean, fourteen minutes is a lot of minutes. But man,
when you're trying to win a big time ballgame and
your n CUB hopes are on the line, you would

(31:02):
think you'd go to the guy that's hot. That's just
that's just me. I played basketball my whole career. I
wouldn't be the guy that was that's hot in most games.
But if I was having a good game, my coach
usually let me in in high school, so yeah, he
hit me in, and you know, you just go to
the guy that's hot. And I mean, and that was
another thing. I mean Trey was. I mean, he missed
a couple you know, he airballed a couple threes. I

(31:22):
understand that's not his strongest suit, but at the end
of the day, he I mean against Ohio State, look
at the you know, thirty plus flitter he hit to
win the game for US, right, I mean, I mean,
I just Trey's Trey's been a baller for US all year.
Anthony Leal defensively got snubbed on the Big Ten Honors there,
but that's also at the end of the game. I
think Leo as much as good as a defensive player

(31:46):
he is, you know, those those pre throws there, I'm
not gonna lie to you. I think that's what broke us.
We were there early. You know, we were in the
game still at that point when he was shooting those
two to one and ones, and you know, off of
those two misses, I believed Oregon scored both times. So
I think that's what cracked us there at the end.
I think again, I think Mbaco should be in there.

(32:07):
He you know, as much as he struggled at the
free throw line as of late, he's still one of
the best pre throw shooters we have on the squad.
So I don't understand why he's still not in there
too to shoot critical one to one three throws. We
had him in the bonus real early, so I'm just
not understanding the thought process there. Leil shoots sixty five
percent from the free throw line and he's still in

(32:29):
So does that make sense to you at all? No?

Speaker 1 (32:31):
And and that's the frustrating part because uh, Leil you know,
plays hard and and yet that that little issue in
his game came back to bite him a little bit
because that that has that has uh been a trend
with him and missing that front end that that hurts.
He did have eight rebounds, so that was good, but
it's just you have to be able to convert. And

(32:53):
for a guy that, uh you know was a mister basketball,
we know that he can make it. It's just that
that struggle has been there all year.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
I agree, and I love everything about Anthony Leo. I
see a lot of myself when I played in him.
You know, he's just he's got that mentality where you know,
I'm gonna play for what's on my jersey, the name
on the jersey, you know, gives everything he's got. I
understand that. I love everything about Anthony lell. We will
you know, badly miss him when he leaves his leadership everything,

(33:23):
but when it comes to making free throws and what
when he needs to be in and when who needs
to be in in that situation, it's just I understand it.
But at the same time, got to get the guys
in that can make free throw shots. I'll leave you
with this. You know, a lot of people are speculating
if we should go, you know, into the n CAA
tournament or not, you know, for Mike Woodson's sake and

(33:47):
for the seniors. I you know, I'd love to see us,
you know, even if it's going to be in the
first four. I'd love to see us compete. You just
never know. I mean, if you look back on the
exhibition game, where I've seen us in brackets from from
now on, if we were to make it, maybe even
as a ten seed, I doubt that's possible now, but
I've seen You never know, but you know, I see,

(34:09):
I see it's you know, in the bracket where we
could potentially play Tennessee if we were to you know,
get a first round upset or whatnot. You know, looking
back on that exhibition game, where has been that Indiana
Indiana team, I know that's an exhibition game, but we
went into Tennessee and beat them. We have that potential.
So and you know it's March, so you never know

(34:29):
what's gonna happen in this in this month. We could
go on a run and that would be great to
see Mike Woodson leave on that kind of run and
the seniors and Galloway and everything else. But I mean,
from my opinion, I think we should. I think we
should still want to see our Hoosiers in the tournament.
I wouldn't see why the fan base wouldn't at this,

(34:50):
you know, or even the Crown. I think the Crown's
a good little tournament that's starting up. You know, that's
the two best Big Ten schools you know that get
seated in that that don't make the NC DOUBLEA tournament.
So it's still good power for basketball. So I still
believe that if we don't make the tournament, the Crown
would be a good, you know, little little tournament to

(35:10):
play and just to let these seniors go out on
a high note and you know, do something special for
the university.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Well, I certainly appreciate the call, and uh, I appreciate you.
We've got a lot to chew on there. I appreciate it.

Speaker 9 (35:22):
Take care, thank you.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Eight one, two, three, nine three, twenty six hundred is
the number.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Let's talk a little bit about Indiana's NC DOUBLEA tournament
chances here. You know, Trey Galloway I'm seeing on Twitter
Trey Galloway is saying that you know, they've played like
an NC DOUBLEA tournament team over the past six weeks.
Woodson and says his play down the stretch of the
end of the regular season should make them worthy of

(35:49):
an NC DOUBLEA tournament spot, saying, quote, this afternoon wasn't
an indication of how we've been playing. Uh, I would
say this much, and I think this is really important
to remember. Indiana beat Michigan State. That was a very
good win on the road, very good win. Lost to

(36:10):
UCLA at home, beat Perdue by putting together its best
second half in four years. On February twenty third, you
had wins over Penn State and Washington. Penn State second
to last in the Big Ten this season, Washington last
in the Big Ten this season. The Penn State game

(36:32):
was nip and tuck until right at the end Washington
that was a cruise control. Then you play Oregon, lose
there by eleven. You come home and you take on
an Ohio State team that's equally on the bubble at
home on Senior Night. You win the ball game. That

(36:52):
game was nip and tuck the whole time. So the
question is you know, and then you play Oregon again
and this time you lose worse to him this time
than he did last time you played. So you know,
it's always it's not how it's how many. But that
how many includes nineteen only nineteen wins and thirteen losses,
including a pair of twenty five point losses back to

(37:16):
back twenty five point losses. And it's also important to
remember that you have if Indiana's playing poorly as poorly
as they did in January, at this point, we're not
talking about them being an NCAA tournament team. I just
really feel that outside of you know, that Michigan State win,

(37:38):
that win against Purdue at home, in terms of converting,
there's not a lot of meat on those bones. And
I know that there's the rankings and all that stuff,
and the bart Tovirik Torvik and the net and all
that kind of stuff. When you look at who Indiana
has beaten, it's great that they have the Michigan State

(37:59):
and Perdue win, but boy, there's a lot of other
games that not only maybe did they lose, maybe they
lost close ones, but you lost. Because if you're going
to trumpet about how well you're playing when you lose.
When you win close games, then you can overlook the
fact that when you lose close games, you know it

(38:20):
makes a difference too. Eight one to two, three, nine three,
twenty six hundred is the number they're going to be
sweating on Sunday for sure. Let's break down some of
the stats in this one. The Hoosiers got fifteen points
from Trey Galloway on six of eight shooting two of
six from three point range. He added four rebounds and

(38:42):
nine assists, but he did have five turnovers on the night.
He finished the game minus nine. Mackenzie Imbacco twelve points
on five to ten shooting, went two to three from
three point range, five rebounds and an assist, had a
block In twenty three minutes. Bollow eight points and four
eleven shooting. Again, Ballow struggles when he plays players that

(39:03):
are his size. That's a trend that I have noticed
this year. Eight rebounds on the day, including zero in
the second half. So if you want to know why
Bollows minutes may have been limited in the second half,
that may be part of it. You get zero rebounds

(39:23):
when you're in the game in the second half. You're
only in there for five minutes, but only took one shot,
still finishes with eight points. Fourth leading scorer on the night,
Anthony Leo four points on two to three shooting, missed
those two critical free throws. He added eight rebounds, two assists,
three steals in thirty one minutes, and Luke Goody one

(39:46):
point five from the field overall, four from three point range,
three rebounds, two assists in thirty three minutes off the bench.
Molik Renewed leads all scores for the Hoosiers with nineteen
points on eight to fifteen shooting. He had rebounds in
an assist to go with a turnover and a block.
In twenty four minutes, he was minus sixteen. Miles Rice

(40:07):
plays twenty eight minutes minus twenty three on the day,
misses all five of his shots. He did have five assists.
Canaan Carlyle rounds out the lineup six minutes is held scoreless.
He's minus six on the day. So if you look
at that lineup there you have Renewed with nineteen points,
Galloway with fifteen points, Mbaco with twelve, but you also

(40:29):
have Miles Rice, who was a starter for a huge
chunk of the year, with one point Luke Goodie rather
zero points Luke Goodie, which is one point, Leal who's
been starting the past few weeks with just four points,
Carlile coming off the bench. Nothing. It's just it's not
good enough against a far superior athletic team. I can't

(40:51):
overlook that part of it, that Oregon is just at
a far superior athletic team. They're better than Indiana, and
they played like it both times that they went out there.
Michael on the Chat says making the NCAA Tournament should
not be a big deal for Indiana basketball. There was
a time that when only one or two Big Ten

(41:12):
teams made the dance. Now half the teams and the
conference are in it, and that is true, and it's
a real weak field this year too. Those thirteen losses
are a big deal. Those thirteen losses. Some of those
losses are why we're where we are when you had
opportunities late. I'm talking Michigan, I'm talking UCLA, I'm talking

(41:36):
Purdue Maryland. It's a whole different season. But you got
to close games out and you need to be consistent,
and Indiana was consistently inconsistent this year. Vision says there's
no identity at this point never has been under Mike Woodson,
never has been. But he's not going to be the

(41:56):
coach next year, so it's not a concern. Michael says,
would I you refuse an n I T bit? I
think they would. This is pure speculation on my part.
Pure speculation.

Speaker 10 (42:10):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Same thing with the with this Crown Tournament as well.
I look at where Indiana is this season, and you
have to ask yourself why so if you are a
player who is looking knows a new coach is going

(42:30):
to be here, and you decide you want to maybe
look elsewhere and play for a different coach. Obviously Goody
and well Goodie could get an extra year, but Leo
uh and uh galloway, they're out of eligibility. If you

(42:52):
have that opportunity to go somewhere else and play and
earn that nil money, and would you risk it in
a meaningless game like an NIT, like one of one
of these Crown Tournament games. That's going to be part
of the equation here in this new college basketball world.

(43:14):
And there's also the feeling that, hey, you know what,
it's time to turn the page. So I have no
I would not be stunned if Indiana would turn those
things down. Not saying that I've heard that, not saying
that they would. I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised.
Wouldn't be surprised. Peter says, wake up early on UNC
If anybody cares about bubble games, Michael says, seems like

(43:37):
the SEC gets an awful lot of love. Well, they do,
but the Big Ten also does. All I gotta do
is go five hundred in the Big Ten and they
say that you're on the bubble. I don't necessarily agree
with that, but eight, one, two, three, nine, three, twenty
six hundred is the number I want to hear from

(43:59):
you again. That was the other thing with this result.
I don't know how anybody's stunned by it losing by
thirteen Oregon. Considering the way Indiana has been playing, I.

Speaker 7 (44:16):
Buy that.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
I'm not stunned by any of this here, man, I
just keep coming back to this quote. We're playing some
of our best basketball. I don't think today's game is
an indication of how we've been playing the last two
or three weeks. The hell it isn't. Yes it is.
You've been playing exactly like this for the past two
or three weeks. Yes, you have, because you had to

(44:45):
squeak by Ohio State that was a game worse than
you in the Big Ten at home. You went on
the road against Oregon and lost big, double digit loss.
Penn State towards the bottom of the Big Ten standing
you had to squeak by them in So, yeah, what
are you talking about? Outside of that second half against

(45:09):
Purdue and the Washington game, you haven't put together a
full forty minutes of basketball in a couple of weeks,
So what are you talking about? Doesn't make sense. You
look at this ball club though nineteen and thirteen on

(45:29):
the season. The kind of resources that have been poured
into this program is stunning and also makes this an
attractive job because you can build a roster that brings

(45:50):
talent here. It's a talented team. It played multiple ways
during the season. There's the way Indiana played like the
style it played before the resignation was announced and after
the lineup's completely changed, The rotations completely changed. Anthony Lele

(46:13):
who you know? I know a lot of you are
a lot of people are complaining about Anthony Lele not
ending up on the Big Ten All Defense Team. Hell,
he didn't play for huge chunks of this season. He
wasn't getting the opportunity, and that comes back to get

(46:34):
you if you pull up Anthony Leole played twenty six games.
That means he did not play in five games. I
know that he was injured in some of those, and
that's you know, that's obvious. Okay, you know that's not
a huge deal. But the minutes didn't come until after
the announcement was made. He plays eleven minutes at Wisconsin.

(47:00):
Announcement is made all of a sudden, it's thirty three
minutes at Michigan, thirty at Michigan State, twenty UCLA thirty five,
thirty thirty four, twenty three, thirty five, what did you
have tonight? Thirty one? That only started after the announcement
was made. And that announcement was made, was it February seventh?

(47:24):
So his average minutes skyrocketed after Mike Woodson started playing
guys that were going to help the team win and
weren't connected to this major nil money. So if you
want to be mad about anything happening with you know,
if Indiana gets left out, Mike Woodson's gonna have to
take a good hard look in the mirror because it

(47:46):
will be his fault. Tony says, why does it always
seem like the Big ten Tourney comes, we play like
we don't want to be there. It really is amazing
how much Indiana has struggled in the Big ten Tournament
through the years, never won the thing, which is extraordinary.

(48:11):
That to me is one of your your bigger surprises
over the years. I mean, we all know some of
the heartbreaks along the way, but Indiana just simply does
not play well in the Big ten tournament. It just
it just doesn't. And it's baffling. It's been multiple coaches,

(48:31):
whether it was Bob Knight or Mike Davis, Calvin Samson,
you know, whoever's been here Big ten Tournament has not
been Indiana time. But it also seems that of late
Indiana has kind of limped into the postseason along the way,
or there's been inconsistency, things of that nature. I mean,

(48:57):
it makes sense why you wouldn't do well when you
just struggle there. Eight one, two, three, nine, three, twenty
six hundred is the number. Appreciate you you're joining us.
R C says, are boosters influencing our coaches to the

(49:17):
point where they're afraid of playing the play playing the
player they want. No, it's not boosters. It's more about
there being to convince these kids to come and play
at Indiana. You kind of you have to sell them

(49:39):
on it, and there's money that they're going to collect.
But sometimes there are promises made too, in terms of
playing time, in terms of minutes that you're going to get.
You know what you're going to start, and as you
go through this, you have these promises that you make
or these suggestions that you make. Part of it is

(50:00):
is you need to kind of live up to those
commitments because otherwise word will get around that don't listen
to anything that coach says because he doesn't live up
to his word.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
That is.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Why it's interesting when that rotation changed the second that
resignation announcement went out. Mike Woodson doesn't have to worry
about having a reputation as not being a guy who
doesn't live up to his promises. You know when it
comes to nil and recruiting and things like that. That
went away completely and so he was able to do

(50:41):
what he wanted to do. And that's not boosters. That's
just some of the nil stuff that's involved. Mike Woodson
isn't going to coach another college game. He isn't going
anywhere else. You know, go be an assistant coach at
in the NBA if he wants to be. But it
has nothing to do with him having to keep any
kind of promises, are being deemed trustworthy when it comes

(51:03):
to promises that he might make when recruiting players, because
that part of his time is done, which is why
we saw rotations change, plain and simple. Michael asked, how
would I feel about a guy like Chris Collins being
the next IU head coach? It would not move me,

(51:25):
I'll put it that way. Chris Collins has been at
Northwestern for a long time. Northwestern's not an easy place
to win. I get that he has had his moments
with his Wildcats and it's a tough place to win.

(51:47):
What could he do at a place with higher resources.
That's a good question, but I just think that he
would not be the best option in my eyes at
this point. Could be a great thing, could be a

(52:08):
great thing, but I just the results at where he
is aren't necessarily easy to get, and it's just it's
not at a high enough level. You look at Willisy one, two, three, four, five, six,
years seven and eight. At Northwestern, he went seventeen and

(52:30):
thirty eight in those two seasons, and that's a tough
place to be year seven and eight. But because he
was at Northwestern, they let him stick around and he
bounced back in a couple of twenty one years. And
that is great. But it would be a risk to
say the least. Tony says, any coach that has a pulse,

(52:54):
who has enthusiasm and holds players accountable, I'm all for.
You want somebody energetic, for sure. You want somebody who's
going to to just be locked in, be energetic, and
make sure that there is consistency from year to year.

(53:15):
You don't necessarily get that with an older coach. Think
they're locked in, but it's that energetic part. I think
that that is a bigger concern for me. Michael says,
thanks for the Collins responding. Would be a great experiment
at IU. Put your hands up if you're interested in
Indiana experimenting with their head coach. I appreciate the sentiment.

(53:38):
I am not ready for an experiment at this point.
Archie was the experiment. Archie should have worked. It just
didn't don't know why that should have worked. But it didn't.
Here's the thing on where this program is right now. UH,

(54:02):
Indiana needs a reset, a full reset. That's where they're at.
They need a full reset, and they're going to get it.
New head coach, You're going to have a pile of
new players. It's going to be a turning of the page.
Whether that just happened or whether that happens in the
NCAA tournament that it remains to be seen in the

(54:25):
next couple of days. But either way, when it's happening,
it is happening. It's coming, and so being able to
make the most of that is going to be really
important for this program. There's no rush on this. Obviously.
One of the upsides of the announcement being made when

(54:49):
it was was just how much Indiana could openly put
out fielders and not worry about their head coach finding
out that they might be looking else where. That that
that that there is a certain freedom that comes along
with announcing that for everybody. Eight one, two, three, nine, three,

(55:12):
twenty six hundred is the number. You know, give me
a call. I want to hear from you and hopefully
be able to UH to maybe root out a little
bit of Mike Woodson video on this thing too. That
would be really great. Trying to see Big ten Tournament's

(55:36):
tough because they kind of deal with things a little
bit differently. Might be able, I we might be able
to have it too. So let me see what we
got be able to hear from Mike Woodson and the
players in this one. So let's see if we can

(55:59):
do just that.

Speaker 5 (56:02):
Here.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Yeah, yeah, we got it. We should. So here's Mike
Woodson and the players from the Big Ten Tournament. It's
like Malik Renew and Trey Galloway.

Speaker 10 (56:12):
All right, we're joined by Indiana and we will start
with opening comments from coach Woodson and then we'll go
to the student athletes.

Speaker 11 (56:20):
So Mike, well, you got to give Oregon in their
group a lot of credit because they come all the
way across country and they played great tonight.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
It's a tough loss.

Speaker 11 (56:34):
Uh, you know, I thought we competed in stretches, but
we just couldn't finish it, and they were the better
team tonight.

Speaker 10 (56:44):
I thought, Okay, please raise your hands and we'll get
the microphone to you right in the front.

Speaker 12 (56:51):
Jeff uh, Jeff rab John speaks dot Com for Tray
and Malik one of the things you guys struggled with
this year scoring drought that hit four minutes or so.
What do you think were the issues when those drafts came?

Speaker 1 (57:04):
You know, in certain games, Tray.

Speaker 6 (57:08):
I would just say, just not executing.

Speaker 8 (57:11):
There's a lot of times where, I mean even today,
there's just some some mis execution opportunities that we had.

Speaker 6 (57:18):
So I just gotta be able to clean up on that.
And that's the biggest thing.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Lake.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Yeah, I think when we go in our little scoring
draft stick, it's definitely just execution. We got to go
out there and execute the player at a high level,
and we failed to do that, and a couple of
stands and they got steals, blocks, et cetera. And then
just they came down courting was able to execute on
their side, So we got to be able to execute
and then defend on our side too.

Speaker 13 (57:48):
Right here, Tom Tom Bruce Sports illustrated in the end, Tray,
you guys have just had the fifty nine points sent
I too and Orton guys were in there, mentioned that
you're just having played you guys last week, that you
depend the preparation for them. They you know, felt like
they had a good handle on what you were doing.
Were you guys finding looks hard to come by? No
shot only thirty six percent from the field.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
We'll start with you.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
I don't think it was just because we were getting
open shots. I mean, we had plays at the basket,
we missed a couple of bunnies, So I don't think
it was just not having the shot. I mean, we
just got to be able to have confidence and and
and know we're gonna put the ball in the room
every time we shoot the ball. So I think that
was the case in there, right.

Speaker 8 (58:29):
Yeah, I think just I mean they're they're a good
defensive team. But I think I said, just just being
on to finish around the rim. We had a lot
of open, easy looks that we that we normally make
and we didn't. And then I mean from the freedom line,
we didn't shoot the free throw well, or same thing
with from from three.

Speaker 6 (58:49):
So just being able to make shots and like you said,
shooting a confidence.

Speaker 5 (58:56):
Right here in the front, Zach bling the dot Com Trey.

Speaker 8 (59:00):
It seemed like a lot of times in that second
half you guys had it down to one possession of
one or two points.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Kind of what led to not being able to finally
get over that and get through that and take that
lead in that second half.

Speaker 8 (59:09):
Yeah, I mean we're we're right, and multiple times we
kept cutting the lead, and but you got to give
them credit that they were able to make big time shots.
But I mean, just I said the execution on defense
that we we just had some miscues that we can't
can't have.

Speaker 6 (59:30):
And like I said, they they made some tough ones.
But just going to give them credit.

Speaker 9 (59:36):
Of course, Jack Jack Ebling drive with Jack and press
pass Leak and Trey, I saw you beat the Big
ten champion on their court. Can you make the case
to the selection committee why Indiana should get a bid
to the NCAA.

Speaker 6 (59:51):
Tournament the Leak, We'll start with you.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Well, I think we should be in the tournament because
we got some big solo wins, not only against mis
you can stay, but you know, we got Purdue at
home and then we you know, swept OSU too. So
I think we had some solid Wednesday and we also
had some I went some some not bad losses, but
we had some good losses where it came down to

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the wire and we just we couldn't get over at home.
But I feel like they give us a chance. We
were trying to make a run in the tournament and
give it all every time we step on the court.

Speaker 6 (01:00:26):
Right, Yeah, I.

Speaker 8 (01:00:29):
Mean we know that we we we should be a
tournament team, and there's there's a lot of opportunity for that.
And I think just those those crucial losses that we
had that were just so tight, one possession game.

Speaker 6 (01:00:44):
So but what the way we've been playing the last
month and a half where.

Speaker 8 (01:00:48):
We've been playing like a tournament team, and I mean,
I just think i's just coming together and and find
and finding ways to get better where we haven't played
our our best boss went till now.

Speaker 6 (01:01:02):
So I think it's it's been.

Speaker 10 (01:01:04):
Good anything else for the student athletes. Thanks Fellows, good job.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
We won't listen to all of Mike Woodson, but I.

Speaker 10 (01:01:16):
Do Coach Woodson, raise your hand.

Speaker 6 (01:01:20):
We'll go to Mark too.

Speaker 14 (01:01:22):
Bob Mike Bob Kravitz with Indianapolis Monthly, same question. Can
you make the case a good case for why you
guys belong in the NCAA tournaments.

Speaker 11 (01:01:36):
I think we're playing some of our best basketball. Tonight
was or this afternoon wasn't an indication of how we've
been playing. We've been very competitive even in the games
that we've lost. I go back to the Maryland game
at home, the U c l A game, the Michigan
game at home. They're all competitive, one or two possession games,

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you know, beating Purdue had a shot to beat Purdue
at their spot. So we have We've had a lot
of close games that we just weren't able to make
the play here there. But these last two weeks, I
think we've been playing some pretty damn good basketball. And

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again I gotta give Oregon a lot of credit because
again they they played well today.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Tom.

Speaker 6 (01:02:27):
Then then what to say?

Speaker 13 (01:02:29):
Go ahead to Tom Bruce Sports Illustrated Indiana Mike the
you'd give up ten straight points and the loss to
them just a week ago, and then they went out
of ten to oh run in the first half and
then a sixteen to five run to in the game.
What is there anything, one thing you can pinpoint as
to why those sort of stretches and droughts happened to
you guys?

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Well, we you know, we've had them off and on.

Speaker 11 (01:02:51):
In this seven, seven, eight game stretch, we haven't had
very very Our defense has been the one as that
has carried us.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
But you got to get them credit. I thought right
before the half that.

Speaker 11 (01:03:05):
Was a big momentum builder for them, and then we regrouped,
we came out at half, after the half and we
were back in the ballgame.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
And it's just the little things.

Speaker 5 (01:03:16):
You know.

Speaker 11 (01:03:16):
We missed two front ends of a one and one,
you know, a two possession game. Those are huge and
they come down and they they make us pay for
it on both possessions. So I mean, I tip my
hat to our guys because they have been competitive these
last two three weeks and has put us in position

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to even be talking about a tournament.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Tournament bit.

Speaker 15 (01:03:42):
Sac Austron Indianapolis star Mike I guess to follow on that,
whether it's talking about this game or you're talking about
a lot of these close losses, how do you keep
this team focused when they are kind of getting themselves
to those moments and just not quite getting over the hump.
Whether it's a string of close losses you talked about,
or it's a game like this where you get a
lot of shots at the rim, you forced a lot
of turnovers, you just can't quite create enough off of

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those moments.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Well, they have been focused.

Speaker 11 (01:04:06):
I you know, I we were dead in the water
two and a half weeks ago, so they have been focused.
You know, when you go five out of your last
seven games and the big ten is no joke.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
I mean we ended up winning.

Speaker 11 (01:04:22):
Ten out of the twenty games. We expected more of
this season, but we didn't get it done. But coming
down this home stretch, this team hasn't quit and they've
been very, very competitive.

Speaker 14 (01:04:36):
All right back here, Zion Brown, I SV you might
when you know you're be done at the end of
the season and you're not quite sure what the selection
committee is going to decide on Sunday.

Speaker 6 (01:04:46):
Just how does this way on you these next few
days not knowing what's next.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
All I'm concerned about is the players.

Speaker 11 (01:04:53):
You know, it's not really about me. You know, It's
been a good run since I've been here, and I'm
just hoping that it's not over it yet. But I'll
spend time with our players until the selection committee, you know,

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makes a decision on what they're going to do.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
So I'll still be in Bloomington.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Okay, that's enough of that. You know, there it goes
on for another four minutes. We pull back up in here.
Another four minutes of that. Bottom line on it is
I I am a little bit baffled about this thumping
of the drum. Then for the last two weeks, two

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and a half weeks, we've been playing really, really well.
In the past two weeks, Indiana's two and two overall,
they both of those losses are double digit losses to Oregon.
They do have if you go back to februs worry
twenty third, you want to go back three weeks. You
do have a win over Purdue, you have a win

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over Penn State. But again, you beat Penn State at
home by five, you beat Washington on the road by sixteen.
I'm not sure if you want a cookie for that
or what. But those are not needle moving victories. They're important.
It's not how, it's how many. And so when you
talk about, well, we've been really competitive and we had

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our chances, it's not how, it's how many. So you
know what you're how many losses is a lot going too,
and two over the last two weeks when you've been
playing your best basketball. I don't know that that is
an argument for getting to the NCAA tournament. That's That's
what I want to understand. Where he's coming from, and

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he should be, you know, pushing I'm just I don't
think that's the flex that maybe he thinks it is
to say we've played our best basketball over the last
two two and a half weeks and we have losses,
two double digit losses to the team that finished ahead
of us in the Big ten standings eight, one, two, three, nine,

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twenty six hundred.

Speaker 14 (01:07:09):
Is your.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Your phone number? Last call for phone calls, and I'll
let you get on with your Thursday. Your weekend just
freed up because Indiana was going to be playing at
noon against Michigan State tomorrow, but that is gone. Tony
on the chat says our bar has been lowered. I
do think that is true. The bar has been lowered,

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and it was, and it's a lot of people talk
about it being lowered because I give Indiana did get
to the tournament this year. That would be three years
and in three times in four years. So the Mike
Woodson era that Indiana's gone to the NCAA tournament, if
they get in, I think it'll be a first four situation.
So Indiana a very proud program. Getting to the first

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four shouldn't necessarily be caused for celebration, especially with kind
of what roster resources. But that's where we are, okay,
and so the next head coach, that's where the culture
and that bar really have to be raised, and everything

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about it has to be be raised, the energy level
on the bench, the consistency as a program. I know
people talk about basketball being a game of runs. It's
not a game of runs for good teams, because good
teams don't have that letdown to where you go seven

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minutes without scoring or you know, however long that was
that Indiana went without points. It's a long time. And
so that's that's a struggle for the program to say
the least. Tony also says as a program, we should
never accept mediocrity. Winning ten titles in nc DOUBLEA tournament
should be the goal every year. Yeah, and that's that

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that first part of it, winning big ten titles. Competing
for a Big ten title is what I'm looking at.
Put yourself in the mix with the resources you have,
put yourself in the mix. Getting the NCAA tournament that
should be a pretty baseline thing. But competing for a
Big ten championship should kind of be where it is,

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and that isn't where this program has been despite having talent. Talent,
is there just haven't had the results, and so now
we wonder what exactly the future holds for the Hoosiers
and where they're going to go from here. I don't know.

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I've been surprised before when it comes to the NC
DOUBLEA Tournament choices not with Indiana but with others. So
we'll see where Indiana holds up. And by the way,
if you want to see the press conference, if you
want to hear more from the players in the locker room,

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go to peagus dot com and check that out. There's
also going to have ongoing coverage of the rumors and
everything that's being heard. When it comes to the next
head coaching search next, who's going to be the next
head coach for the Hoosiers Because it's a it's an
open question right now. It's an open question, but it's

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going to be exciting for a Thursday afternoon. Indiana falls
in their first game in the Big Ten Tournament, seventy
two to fifty nine to Oregon, and now they get
a good healthy sweat before selection Sunday comes around. On Sunday,
we'll see if we have more games ahead of us.

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Definitely have spring football coming up. That'll be more exciting.
Than it has been in a while. But it's also
spring football, which is one of your more useless efforts.
But here we are. But be sure to enjoy, you
know what, enjoy some good basketball and some of these
other conference tournaments that's going to be going on, and

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you could just watch and just enjoy the basketball without
emotion being involved. That's a ton of fun as well.
But for now, seventy two fifty nine is your final.
Now the Hoosiers play the game of wait and see
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