Peegs Postgame LIVE: Washington -- March 1, 2025

The Hoosiers went on the road and turned in a comfortable win over Washington to keep their NCAA Tournament hopes alive, and we took your calls and got your thoughts on IU's latestet victory and what it means for the future.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hi, you doing everybody. I'm Ken Bike Goff and welcome
to the Piagus. Postgame Live, Indiana picks up an easy
seventy eight to sixty to win over the Washington Huskies
in Seattle. As the Hoosiers continue to turn in some
nice performances. I want to apologize right off the bat

(00:30):
here because my voice is hot trash, because I have
I'm wonder the weather and we will do what we
can to try to keep it. As long as you
guys want to talk. I you basketball tonight, I'm gonna
let you as as is always the case. Excuse me too,

(00:51):
as I connect our call in system here, I had
not previously done that, so we're doing that right now.
So you got to hear all of that.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
You're connected as the host, We're connected, all right, welcome
post You.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Want to post room and can manage your callers from
the Collins Studio web interface.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Thanks. Audio recording is on. Yeah, it is dual channel.
All right, That's normally a step I do before we
start this. But here we are eight one, two, three, nine, three,
twenty six hundred is the number is. Indiana again turns
in a really nice performance against the Washington Huskies. It's
not a team that is uh going to you know,

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turn this This game isn't going to shake anybody up.
Indiana shoots forty nine percent from the floor overall, thirty
nine percent from three point range. Basically did whatever they
wanted to and turned in a real nice defensive performance.
It's not a good Washington team, but that doesn't make
a difference. You go on the road and you win

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a game easily in the Big Ten. That's really important,
especially as Indiana tries to make a push to reach
the NCAA tournament. So you have to be happy that
that the Hoosiers played as well as they did. I
think that it was really interesting though that despite having

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both Bollow and Renew available, they spent very little time
together on the floor. And at the very least, that
tells me that Mike Woodson has kind of woken up
to the idea that having the two bigs out there
at once is not the best idea, and so to

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me that that's really really important and just something that
he has to You have to be able to acknowledge
the fact that that mistakes were made earlier in the season. Again,
I think it's interesting that Woodson is been willing to
make these changes after he announced his resignation, that that

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was the big big things. Since then, we've seen a
lot of different things, a lot of different lineups. And
I don't know if it's a freedom that has come
with this or what the story is, but certainly the
Hoosiers are now performing at a higher level than they
previously had. Eight one, two, three, nine three, twenty six
hundred is a number we have our first caller, caller,

(03:20):
if I could have your name, where you're from, and
what you got.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
Hey, this is Michael from Noble Zelle.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Hi, Michael, how you doing?

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Doing well about yourself? Sorry to hear about being out
of the weather.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Nah, you know what it's happens this time of year.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
Sure thing. I wanted to call in before before some
old fogy. I'm not far offrom one myself, but before
someone called in and said the black uniforms is terrible,
I got to say that I loved them. I'm a
big time tradition guy. I love that we don't have
names on the back. I love the candies, trips, I
love it all, but I like the black jerseys. I

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thought it was a refreshing modern twist on kind of
some classic Indiana components that had the script writing and
had the subtle stripes. I thought it was the beautiful
ultimate jersey. So I just want to get out ahead
of any negative calls on that. What do you think
about those?

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, I can I can't agree with you more. I
can't agree with you more. I thought that those were
those jerseys were fantastic, that it was a nice change
of pace. I'm a tried Look, I'm a big history guy.
I'm a traditionalist as well. However, Indiana's traditions are starting
to get real old. And you know the fact that
they they took that tradition of having that script Indiana

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and putting it together with a really sharp looking uniform.
I know there are some people that are gonna, you know,
maybe not be happy that black is it was it
was a black uniform. They'll say, well, black is in
an Indiana color and all this he look, I think
it looked fantastic and I was happy to see it.
This is a program that needs some new juice to it.

(04:56):
The traditions are great and I love them, but you
could also add something does something different. And I think
that these uniforms really looked fantastic and it was just
a really nice addition. I hope they stick around.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
I'm with you. I'm with you. One more thing unrelated
Luke Goody. I'm starting to get the same sort of
feeling from his contributions to the team as I got
from Max Bielfelt back in twenty sixteen. Just adds an
X factor. He's got the leadership, the experience, just makes
the smart play and really is a glue guy and

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ever since of the word on the team in the
same way that Max was for that twenty sixteen team.
So you know, on the broadcast, I can't remember this
gentleman's name, the color commentator. He kept referencing like, I
wouldn't want to play at you in the Big ten
and the Big Dance. I'm not sure if I go
that far, but I do think that what Luke Goodie
is doing right now for this team adds a component

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that it hasn't had really, I think since that twenty
sixteen team. And I just really enjoyed and watching his
his rise and his growth with this team, and I
am excited to see how it goes from here on out,
especially with as it pertains to his his play.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, I don't disagree with that at all. I think
that you know, it's a knockdown shooter. It took a
little while for him to get comfortable, but that knockdown
shooter is very much so like Max Bielfelt and what
he brought. That was a team that had more success.
But definitely I like what Luke Goody has brought from
a leadership standpoint and the fact that he stepped into

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that leadership void that previously was there, and you know
he's backed it up most nights since since then.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
Yep, sure thing. Well take it easy, buddy, I'll let
you go and enjoy the show and appreciate your hard work.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Eight one, two, three, nine, three,
twenty six hundred is the number looking for for your callers.
Our chat's a little surprisingly quiet, which is something that
normally that we get rolling pretty good. We do have
another caller though, caller, if I could have your name,
where you're from, and what you got?

Speaker 5 (07:08):
Hey, seabone for Fort Wayne, what's up?

Speaker 1 (07:10):
KB, Hey, how are you doing?

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (07:13):
I'm doing well. I just want to let you know
that the black unis again that last collar touched on them. Man,
those guys they were fire. You know the let's go
back to Cronin talking about Bob Knight rolling over in
his gray when they wore those last jerseys against UCLA.
I think coach Knight would have approved of these jerseys.

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They were fire. What do you think, KB?

Speaker 1 (07:39):
I think that the Knight would have hated these jerseys.
And we actually don't have to think that he hated
when Cam Cameron put his football team in black jerseys
and he basically demanding Cameron never wear him again, and
they didn't because it wasn't a he said, black wasn't
an Indiana color. So I don't think Knight would have
liked it. Knight wouldn't have liked, you know, the alternate

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jerseys altogether, because that just wasn't his thing. But you
know what, Bob Knight was wrong about a lot of stuff,
and he'd have been wrong about these uniforms.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
So you like them.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
I loved him. I thought it was great.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
Do you think they'll be available online?

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Gosh? I hope, so, I hope so I I you know,
if you're going to put together alternate uniforms, the question
is why do teams wear alternate uniforms? It's to sell merchandise.
It's to sell merchandise. And you know, like they have
alternate jerseys for baseball that they'll wear sometimes, and I
really wish they would make those available, but I've been
told that those are aren't worth the cost of mass

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production when it comes to to the baseball jerseys. But
for these, you you, I'm willing to put money on
the fact that they'll have them available at the Ohio
State game for sure.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
Yeah, I agree with you. Last question, let somebody else
take care of your time. Do you think what do
you guys over the hump? He's always talking about that hump.
Do you think we're over it?

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Well? Uh, I think what you're talking about is, you know,
as the coach, I gotta I gotta get us over
that hump.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
You know what, you know, I think that this isn't
a get over the hump kind of game. I think
that this team is playing differently since that that pressure
was vented on it. The opponent tonight was a big
reason why Indiana looked as good as they did. Washington
is not good and Indiana is just a head and

(09:35):
shoulders above. And this also wasn't a game in which
Indiana played down to the level of its opponent, and
I think that that that's really important. But at the
very least, uh uh, they're playing with more consistency, they're
playing with a little more loose and again you've seen
the changes in the approach Indiana is taking. Because you
don't have the two bigs on the floor that often together,

(09:59):
He's not not feeling pressure to play Inbaco a bunch
of minutes. There are guys, you know, whether it's Bryson Tucker,
who don't play at all. I think that that there's
been a freedom in him announcing his resignation because he
really doesn't have to worry about how anything he does
impacts promises he'll make the players in the future, or

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anything having to do with the future of this program.
It's all about this year and doing what is best
for the team this year. And I think we're seeing
some of the results of that change in thinking, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
Hey, and the last thing I one hundred percent agree
with you. Lt came in very in the first half,
got a free throw. I mean, those role players who
give so much a practice that are you know, definitely
in the background. You know, I'll give a shout out
to all those guys as well, and I'm gonna hang out,
but lets you talk.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Well, I appreciate the call, Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, the role players are extremely important. I mean, you
look at a guy like Anthony Leel plays thirty four minutes,
takes one shot, gets four rebounds, four assists, doesn't exactly
pack a box score. That's just not what he does.
But he makes he makes his presence felt. He does
the little things and so you don't have to worry
about trying to get a bunch out of him. That's

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just not how it works. And uh, but he's still
giving you good minutes. And I think that that's that's
really important when you look at at some of the guys,
you know, bringing Miles Rice off the bench, bringing Malik
Renew off the bench. You know, Hatton was only in
there for you know, less than a minute and he

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drew a foul. Canaan Carlisle. He was in there, wasn't
trying to force things tonight. That was important as well.
It's guys maybe starting to just get a little bit
of more of their swagger back than what they've had.
And so I think that it's really been important just
to watch this team kind of develop along the way
and start to hit it stride again. This wasn't Duke

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they were playing tonight, but it does make a difference.
Uh eight one to two, three nine, three twenty six
is the number we got. Another caller on the line,
caller giving your name, where you're from, and what you got?

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Hey, what's up? This is a Gabe from Tri Lakes.
How you doing Ken?

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Good? Gabe? How you doing good?

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (12:20):
I joined a little late. I hope you haven't talked
about this yet if you have stopped me. I was
playing around with the Big Ten Tournament scenario generator? Do
you ever spend any time on that? Ken?

Speaker 1 (12:32):
I do not know?

Speaker 3 (12:34):
All right. So there's a there's a website where you
can kind of go look at kind of what our
seed might be for the Big ten tournament. And it
looks like if we would potentially and I hate to
see this happen, boy, I can't imagine this happening, But
if we'd lose both games, looks like we might end
up being as low as an eleven seed. If we
win one, it looks like it puts us at the
at the nine or ten line. If we win both

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and things go according to plan, we could be an
eight seed. So just thinking ahead to the Big Ten tournament,
thinking ahead to the NCAA tournament, with the different scenarios ahead,
because the season is obviously drawing to a quick close.
Here the regular season, where do you think we land?
Where do you think our chances are? Given the three

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different scenarios of outcomes, lose both, go one in one,
go to and oh what are your thoughts as to
where we could land at a good point?

Speaker 1 (13:29):
I think, and this is this isn't me. I don't
mean this to be a cop out. I truly believe
this that it could go either, you know, any of
those three ways. And the reason being is it's the
inconsistency of this team. You know, Oregon is a disciplined
ball club, and I could see them give in Indiana

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a lot of problems Ohio State. Indiana beat Ohio State
at their place. They were up ten with five minutes
to go and then fell apart. A lot has changed
since that Ohio State game, But it's also one of
those situations where I just know that Indiana has been
just so inconsistent, and so I could see all three

(14:12):
of those scenarios playing out. What do I expect I
expect Oregon to give us a lot of trouble. I think,
what do they played Tuesday? I think that that they're
going to give us a lot of trouble. That one
will be a tight game, especially on the road. You know,
Oregon already is at that twenty win mark. So I
think that that one's going to be a tough one.

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Ohio State, it being Senior Night and all of that.
I see, if I had to make a prediction, I
think we're going to go one and one, So that
that is I could see all three playing out, but
I think one and one is kind of what I'm predicting.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Ken, I have a little bit of PTSD. You might
remember under coach Crean, we Ohio State had our number
on Senior Night and then we still cut the nets down.
That's a little bit of a hard one for me.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
That is, I love one of the confidence that one
of the more infamous nights at IU. Yeah, to this day,
I can't believe they cut down those nets.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
I would love to have confidence in both of these
games and think that we could go to and Oh
but let's let's play out your scenario. Let's just say
it's one in one. So we go into the Big
Ten tournament as let's say a nine or ten seed.
Let's say we're not getting to that eight, we're not
the eleven. Do you feel like that the body of
work is good enough with's kind of no bad law.
I mean, I know some of the losses are bad

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in terms of the discrepancy, but we haven't lost to
a bad team. Do you feel like we're first four
at this point? Do you feel like we need to get.

Speaker 6 (15:39):
One more win?

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Do we need to go one and one to be
maybe playing in Dayton, which, by the way, I love Dayton.
It's a it's a great opening round venue. What do
you think we need to do to play ourselves in
the NCAA tournament or do you think we've already done that.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
I think there's still work to be done, especially with
that Ohio State game. And you know, if you get
to twenty wins, you're probably going to the NCAA tournament,
right Yeah? Yeah, and so and then I think, what
would they be eleven and nine in the Big Ten
at that point. I think that's that's what they're what

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their record would be. I'm trying to pull up the
schedule now because I'm getting old and so. Yeah, so
they're nine and nine in the Big Ten right now,
that would put them at ten and ten with twenty wins. No,
that would put if they went one and one, they
would finish they're eighteen and eleven, they would be nineteen
and twelve at that point. I think you would need

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to win a game or two in the Big Ten
tournament to make yourself feel comfortable. There's also the idea
of what happens in the other conference tournaments. You know,
if you start to see some of these teams start
to steal some bids along the way, you're in early
out if you're Indiana and you you know you have

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some other teams make a deeper run. You just have
to focus on winning games, period. And to me, that
is they're in control of their own destiny because they
can stack wins. But you have to be out there
and you have to be able to stay focused for
full forty minutes, and that hasn't always been the case
with this team.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
All right, Ken, one last question about the Big Ten tournament.
So let's say we go into the Big Ten Tournament.
As I was running through the scenarios, it looks like
our three most likely matchups might be USC, Oregon, or
Illinois at this point. Obviously, tournaments are all about matchups.
Where do you like Indiana the best out of those three?

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Admittedly I've watched Illinois a lot, I haven't seen Oregon
play all that much. What matchup would you like to
see Indiana in in a first round scenario of the
Big Ten tournament or first game, maybe not first round,
first game where they have the best chance to win?

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Do you think I think that one's USC. Indiana's beat
USC already once. They didn't dominate them, but they you know,
USC was not a very good basketball team, and so
that one to me, Oregon is, uh, we're gonna see
them here, I think on Tuesday. You know, they're a
solid basketball team. They have some size that could give

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Indiana some problems. Illinois obviously, you know, blitz the hell
out of Indiana at Assembly Hall. So that one would
be a tough matchup. But USC. Of those three, to me,
USC would be the one that you would want to face.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Okay, final question, just curious on this one. Obviously, Indiana
in Washington right now, Oregon here in a couple of days,
do they hang out on the West coast the next
couple of days. Surely they're not flying back to Bloomington then.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Back out Well, correct, they'll stay out there.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
They'll stay out there.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, because because you know you're gonna
They went to Washington, they went out there. I think
it was Tuesday they went. No, when did they play last?
They played Wednesday? Correct? This week? Was that the last
game on Wednesday? Yeah? Yeah, so right afterwards, Yeah, after Wednesday.

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So they went out there Thursday the next day and
was able to to kind of get relaxed out there,
and I know that they were planning on spending you know,
that time in between out there because you're not gonna
fly back and forth and you know the strain that
puts on your body. So they're gonna remain out there
until they take on Oregon for a nine o'clock game
on Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
All right, Ken, Well, I appreciate all your time. I
would say I would like to add I like the
jerseys tonight. I wasn't so sure I would. I love
the script Indiana font, the sublimated candy stripes, and the
jerseys that you can kind of not see on TV
but you could see on Twitter. Thought that was a
good a good look. Not a big fan of Adidas.
Whish they'd sell us more gear go home field apparel.
As far as that goes, there's been a plug and

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an endorsement. Yeah, but Ken, thanks for your time, Thanks
for doing the show. Always appreciate you taking our calls.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Well, I appreciate it. Thanks a lot, You're the best. Thanks.
Eight one, two, three, nine three, twenty six hundred is
the number. Really thrilled that we were getting calls here
because again I'm under the weather, my voice is not
in good shape. So we're gonna go right on over
to our next collar coller. If I can have your name,
where you're from, and what you.

Speaker 7 (20:16):
Got, says Seth from Rono. Hey, Seth, how do you
still sound like a million bucks?

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Oh? I don't know about that.

Speaker 7 (20:26):
Hey, do you think that the new lineups are just
from an understanding that you're not coming back? So who
really cares or what do you think is leading this charge?

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Well? I mentioned this a little bit earlier. I think
that there is more of a freedom of knowing you
won't be back next year, and so with that, you know,
we don't know what kind of promises were made along
the way when you bring in Ballow and you have
renew there and what kind of promises were made in
terms of playing time and those kinds of things, And

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also a certain amount of stubbornness that that is part
of what Mike Woodson has done, is having those two
bigs on the floor. You know, year over year he
would he would do that and it didn't make a
lot of sense. Well, he's not going to be here
and the results are there. And maybe it also could

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be that finally, just just losing these games and end
up being kind of you know, stepping away at the
end of the season makes you maybe open your mind
a little bit to suggestions from other coaches that allow
you to kind of accept what we've been doing hasn't
been working, and so we're going to go ahead and

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make a move. And when you start to have success
with it and along the way, uh, it makes a difference. Look,
these changes could have been made earlier in the season.
The situation doesn't have to be what it was. I
think Mike Woodson stuck with lineups that were or not
as effective as they should have been and did it

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to try to prove that the way he had been
going about things was the right way. It's clear that
wasn't the case. He's made changes in Indiana is better
because of it, and so at the very least, that
freedom of not having to worry about, you know, any
kind of promises that were made, any kind of you know,
any any arrangements that you had. They're not going to

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come back to bite you in the future because they
You're not going to be here, so it doesn't make
a difference. So I think there's a certain amount of
freedom that has gone into the way he's dealt with
his lineups because he's not going to be here next year.

Speaker 7 (22:39):
I agree with that. Do you think that there's freedom
for those players too, because some of them, you know,
it's their last time doing it, and some of them
they might need to find somewhere to play next year
if because they might not sit with whoever the new coach.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Is for sure for sure. In fact, I would be
really surprised if if there weren't drastic changes to the
roster next year. With the ability of players to move around,
I think that a not a completely clean slate. I
don't think it's gonna be like when Crean took over,
but I do think that there are gonna be a

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lot of new faces next year, and it to fit. However,
you know the new coach is going to go about things.

Speaker 7 (23:20):
All right, I got one more question for you. Sitting
around some friends and it's gonna have a hypothetical word
kicking around. What hump within the NCAA tournament would we
have to get over for us to run it back?
A quote from Senior.

Speaker 8 (23:33):
Night last year.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
I don't think that's gonna happen.

Speaker 7 (23:37):
I you're speaking my language, thank you, sir.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah. I can't see a scenario where all of a sudden,
it just that you get to that point. I think
this is a program that's looking to turn a page,
and I think that that's kind of just where they are.
All right, call her is gone eight one, two, three, nine, three,
twenty six hundred is the number. I don't know if

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we're going to get some Mike Woodson video later on.
I just don't know, but we're you know, hopefully we will.
If we don't, we don't, but you know, they they're
out in Washington, and you know we'll see. Well, we
do have more callers, and I'm excited for this caller.
If you give your name, where you're from, and what

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you got all right.

Speaker 9 (24:24):
This is a Dave from Fort Wayne.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Hey, Dave, how are you doing?

Speaker 9 (24:29):
I'm doing all right. I have to apologize I came
in a few minutes after the game ended, but I didn't.
I don't know if this question has been answered. I
saw you are talking about this a few minutes ago
about Woodson. Woodson kind of playing the lineup differently now

(24:49):
now that he's, you know, officially not going to return
next year. My question was, I just feel like Leo
Anthony Leo, it seems like he's getting a lot of
the minutes that in Bak used to get, and I
just wonder do you think that Woodson, you know, with
you know, Mbaco clearly being an NBA talent and Woodson
trying to set things up for a future. If he

(25:10):
was still coming back, you want future recruits coming in.
You want to show him, Hey, I develop NBA talent,
look at Ebacco. You know this is critical to your pipeline.
But now that that's not going to be the case
he's not coming back, do you feel like that's freed
him up to I mean, Leil played thirty four minutes
right versus do you think that that's.

Speaker 10 (25:29):
Been a change in his coaching strategy.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Oh, no question, no question. And I don't know if
it's Leal taking the minutes from Mbaco or Leal taking
the minutes from Miles Rice. Whoever it is. Leil is
out there because he's comfortable with having seniors out there.
He doesn't have to worry about making sure Mbaco gets
certain minutes so that he could. You know, again, it
comes down to what promises were made for you to

(25:53):
come back or anything that goes along with that. There
is the freedom to just play lineups because you don't
have to worry about anything in the future at all.
The only important thing is the next game, which coaches
always say is the case. But we know damn well
that there's a short term in a long term. If
you're a coach, to me, with only a couple of

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games left in your tenure, you could do whatever you
want to and the players can get mat or the
players I can't. There's a freedom there of knowing that
you won't be back next year.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (26:25):
To me, it was Crystal Claire the way he played
the second half of Purdue. All he cared about was winning,
I mean nothing else. There's no balancing act about egos
or next year or transfers or recruits or whatever.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
It was just like, let's get this game.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah. And the other thing is the other thing to
me is you you mentioned about Enbaco being an NBA talent.
I will say this, I did think that last year.
I haven't liked the lack of development in Mbaco and
so from in terms of being a stand star shooter,
he's fantastic, But in terms of quickness or adding a

(27:05):
defensive element or any kind of you know, creative bounce
off the dribble, I haven't seen that he's been making
his living shooting threes and long twos and uh so
I think that there is going to have to be
some serious development for Embaco to be able to be success,
to convince people he could be successful at the next level.

Speaker 9 (27:24):
Yeah, no, I agree with you. I mean, look, I
mean his skill level, like defense is a mentality, it's coaching,
it's it's want to. He's got the physical skills to
do that, he has to want to and then be
taught to, you know. And but yeah, I get what
you're saying, like right now, you know he's he can
be a liability still and you got a guy named
like Leil who did not score a point tonight played

(27:47):
played the most minutes along with Goody. We won by
a lot. It's not all about how you shoot. It's
about how you how you screen, how you rebound, if
you're calling out you know, switches and things like that,
the leadership, the little things. You know.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
There are two players on this roster who are in
this lineup tonight who were in the minus on the
plus minus and at Zumar Ballo and Mackenzie Andbaco Real
with plus twenty six.

Speaker 9 (28:15):
There you go, yeah, there you go with zero points.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yep.

Speaker 9 (28:21):
Well, hey, hey, love what you do. Keep up the
good work.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Really appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Eight one, two, three,
nine three, twenty six hundred is the number. I'm trying
not to cough in your people's ears. I'd really uh,
I'm sorry about this. I don't want to. And then
the water pressure disappeared at my house. I had about halftime,

(28:47):
so I was gonna actually make myself some tea, which
I'm not a tea guy, but I just wanted to
do something to warm my throat. And then the water
pressure is gone, so I didn't have time to do tea.
So I'm just drinking some water, have caught off drops.
I'm battle and overcoming adversity today. Eight one, two, three,
nine three, twenty six hundred is a number. Who got
a number? Another caller? Caller, if I could have your name,

(29:09):
where you're from and what you got?

Speaker 5 (29:12):
Yeah, hey, coach match from Huntington. Wanted to just first
of all, get a shout out to Norwell girls for
winning state championship. Very nice hund Counties right next to
Wells County and you know, give them their props. One
to think what you thought of Tucker not playing here lately.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Uh, you know, obviously he's I haven't heard that there's
any kind of injury or anything like that. He's obviously
in the doghouse. And uh again, it's a thing of
where Mike Woodson is very clearly said he's going to
ride the older guys the rest of the way, And
to me, that's kind of where we are with you know,

(29:55):
Tucker's a freshman and I just don't don't know that
he's done enough to earn those minutes and Woodson isn't
about to go ahead and set him out there. And
whether that's fair or not, I don't know, But you know,
Tucker's played twenty three games this year, and I'm trying

(30:17):
to bring up his stats here just to see the
last time that he played, because it's been a while
since we've seen him on the floor. And let's see,
last time he played was five minutes against UCLA and
that was two weeks ago.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
So yeah, I just hope they do enough to keep
him around, making eledgible or viable for that next coach.
Side note to the tonight's game, I thought the team
came out with Trump versus Zielensky energy, and I just
wanted to hear what you see, what you think about

(30:52):
that energy, and I'll hang up and listen.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Thanks the Hoosier's energy tonight. Indiana's energy tonight, I think
was really good, and so that is a positive you want.
That's the sense of it. They came out with a
sense of urgency in a way that we haven't always
seen them do, especially on the road. And you know,

(31:15):
they came we came out, and part of it, obviously
is Washington isn't very good. But to go ahead and
open up a ten point lead by the thirteen thirty
four mark dug a hole for Washington that they never
really challenged after that. So so getting off to a
hot start, you know, building that lead right off the bat,

(31:38):
I think was extremely important for this ball club. And
you have to build confidence where you can, and the
fact that the Hoosiers were able to do just that
shows that this is a team that at the very
least is locked in and going on the road and
being locked in is important obviously. But you do have

(31:59):
this game against Oregon coming up that is going to
be a challenge because Oregon is it's a good ball club.
You know. The the Ducks are sitting at twenty one
and eight overall, ten and eight in the Big Ten.
That you know, they they've struggled of late at times.

(32:21):
They lost at Minnesota, at UCLA, they lost in Nebraska,
they lost to Michigan, they lost to Michigan State. So
the opportunities are are there for Indiana, but they better
be ready to play from the opening tip eight one, two, three,
nine three, twenty six hundred is the number? Got another caller, caller,
if you have your name, where you're from, and what
you got.

Speaker 11 (32:43):
Hey, Ken, this is a Mike. I'm out here in Utah.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
I love Utah. I went out to Salt Lake City
several years ago for the NCAA tournament. It was a
Salt Lake City was a wonderful town.

Speaker 11 (32:55):
Yeah, great city. I'm down around the National Parks. But
it's so good to see him playing really well the
last little bit here. And when we get up twenty
one in that game, it just gives me thinking, like
how close we were, especially like Maryland and Purdue, right
should have won both those games. And then there's three more,

(33:18):
right like UCLA, Michigan Northwestern. If we're able to if
we win one of those, I mean, we're like a
top twenty five resume talking about the four to the
sixth line And right as I'm having that thought, would
he goes to the two big lineup? They go on

(33:39):
an eight zero run and it's like, the dude is
so stubborn, and that's why he's going to be jobless
here in a couple of weeks, I know. And it's
just so frustrating, right like, because the talent was there.
I think some of the assistants wanted those adjustments a
long time ago. Every fan knew, and we just didn't

(34:02):
do it. And it's so close. It's a game of inches,
and what he takes these giant steps back for us
sometimes and it's just held us back and it's so frustrating,
and I'm really excited that we're playing well and you know,
probably inside that bubble line right now.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yeah, and I noticed that as well, that you had
you know, Indiana was up about twenty one points and
then Ballow came in with renew and immediately, and I
mean immediately, that leads started to shrink. They never really challenged,
but it was it was immediate. They were up by
twenty one. They bring in Ballow and within a couple

(34:39):
of minutes the leads down to thirteen. And I noticed that,
you know, just saying it's like, well, we's going back
to this. I don't know if it was just to
try to let some guys get a little bit of
playing time and you had that cushion, but it was
really stark how quickly things fell apart.

Speaker 11 (34:59):
Yeah. Well, I mean it's just it's been hard to
watch that ten game stretch where we lose eight and
but really some of them were pretty close, you know,
but it's it's you know, going back to the Iowa
and Illinois blowouts. That's kind of what seals Woodies deal.
And oh and it's just a bummer that we didn't

(35:21):
start the season maybe competing at a little different level.
Like I hear people talk about Leo Steam winning every
game in practice, right, but you know he sticks with
Cannon and Miles really early in the season. And you
see Carlisles played way better recently and today I thought

(35:42):
he'd gives some good minutes and then you know, he
dribbles into those contested sixteen footers and it's like I
wish Woody would have pulled him out of the game
right then, sat him down and just coached him a
little bit, like that's the shot we don't want from him, right,
And I'll just say thanks and I'll listen from here
on out. I appreciate what you guys do over there,

(36:02):
Peets and go Hoosiers.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Man.

Speaker 11 (36:05):
I hope we just keep winning a little bit here.

Speaker 9 (36:06):
Down the stretch.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
I appreciate that. Thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Seeah eight one, two, three, nine three, twenty six hundred
is the number you know he's talking about, you know, Carlisle.
Carlisle again, he plays seventeen minutes, scores two points, but
only takes four shots and play some solid defense. It
is a shame that there were so many issues during

(36:34):
that long run that ended up costing Mike Woodson his
job because you had situations where time and time and
time again, it was coaching mistakes that were the issue,
issues that could have been avoided. Got a clough. Oh,

(36:56):
you guys don't know the day I've had. They those
mistakes have come back to bite time and time again. Yeah,
you get blown out, you know at Iowa and by Illinois.
You choke on a ten point lead at Ohio State,
but you manage to walk off with an overtime win.
Losses to Northwestern, the mess at the end of the

(37:18):
Maryland game, the mess at the end of the Purdue game,
or Woodson ends up pointing fingers at Miles Rice. Was
not great end of the Michigan game. You know, over
and over and over again, these would it could have
should us Indiana. It's probably going to end up getting
to the NCAA Tournament as long as they don't fall
in their face here in the next couple of games.

(37:39):
But it's it is frustrating. The bright side is that
announcement that he would be finished at the end of
the year really vented the pressure that was on this program,
and I think that that was really really important. Eight one, two, three,
nine three, six hundred is the number. Let's go ahead

(38:02):
and go over some of the individual stats in this one.
Malik renew leads the Hoosiers in scoring, but he comes
off the bench to do it. Twenty two points on
ten to thirteen shooting, adds six rebounds and a couple assists,
had three turnovers, but played twenty five minutes. Was plus
fourteen on the night. With the starters ye had. Trey

(38:22):
Galloway eight points on four of twelve, shooting zero of
five from three. He did have seven assists. Gallow's biggest
contributions come with distributing the ball. This is a team
that does not have a point guard and hasn't had
one all year. I know Miles Rice is seen as that,
but that isn't really what he's done most of the year.

(38:44):
And so I know Galloway can make shots. I think
he really has to pick and choose when he does.
Luke Goody eighteen points on six of eleven, shooting five
of nine from three point range. He adds four rebounds
and an assist. In thirty four minutes. He's plus twenty
three on the night good. He was really really good

(39:04):
tonight and that knocking down shots really stretches that defense
really nice. Bollows seven points on three or four shooting,
ran into a little bit of foul trouble, only had
two rebounds, played just fifteen minutes. Part of that is
because Renew was as good as he was. Mackenzie Imbaco

(39:26):
ten points on three of eight shooting two to four
from three point range. He adds four rebounds as well
in twenty five minutes, but he's again. Him and Ballow
were the only players who were on the negative side
of the plus minus. Anthony Leal plays thirty four minutes,
takes just one shot as four rebounds, four assists, no turnovers,

(39:48):
has two blocks and three steals. That's being effective without
the ball. Then you have Miles Rice ten points on
four of eight shooting. He plays twenty five minutes. He's
just a plus four on the night as well, but
he did knock down two or three shots from a
three point range. He added five rebounds, He had an assist,
but two turnovers. Can In Carlisle two points in seventeen minutes.

(40:11):
Langdon Hatton got one point after being fouled just right
before the halftime buzzer, who's your shoot forty nine point
two percent overall, thirty nine point one from the three
point line, just sixty four point three percent from three
from the from the free throw line. But they got
the win, and that is the important part for sure. Uh,

(40:36):
got another caller, caller, gave your name, where you're from,
and what you got?

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Yeah, Hi, this is Kyle from Huntington.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Hi.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Yeah, So I was calling in and I've been kind
of stewing about whether or not I was going to
call in since I had since I heard coach Matt
from Huntington and uh, and so I just, you know,
someone from my hometown. I just wanted to call in
and say, you know, I think I have a good
thing and a bad thing. So, first good thing, I
was just so excited to see Malik these last couple

(41:10):
of games. You know, he had his injury, came back,
wasn't himself, and then and then this obviously played so
much better, had maybe an illness the last game, and
then looked good again tonight. So that's a good thing
I wanted to mention. And then kind of the bad
thing I wanted to mention is I just don't like it.

Speaker 8 (41:26):
For this.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Someone from my hometown mentioned the Trump versus Zelenski thing.
I just think that should the politics should stay out
of basketball. Let's focus on Indiana basketball here, everybody, Okay,
that's all I had.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
All Right, I appreciate it. Thanks. I don't disagree with that.
It's a basketball show. It gets get nasty with the
with the politics, so I I that's why I said,
let's talk about Indiana's energy. So I did not even
not even gonna gonna go there. So I appreciate the
call though, and I really do. Eight one, two, three, nine, three,

(41:57):
twenty six hundred is the number. Lines are open checking
our Twitter feed to see if there's anything with Mike
Woodson and any kind of postgame press conference. Not really,
I'm sure if where we're going to get that or not,
but we will see for the time being. You know,

(42:21):
you just look at this IU ball club and you
know the opportunities are limited now. But when you looked
at the schedule and you had the you know, the
game after the Purdue game. You win the Purdue game
because you turn in the best half of basketball you've

(42:41):
had in four years. Here, you get that victory. Then
you beat Penn State you almost let Penn State beat
you last Wednesday, but they didn't. And then you have
this west coast road trip and the Penn State game
I thought was a classic trap game. There was the
opportunity for Indiana to really stumble there. They almost did,

(43:05):
but they didn't. And so that's the important impart. It's
not how, it's how many. And they win the game.
This Washington game, though I didn't want to see this
one be close. Washington is not good and so you
better go out there and win comfortably. They did just that.
So now you have Oregon, and again that's a team

(43:30):
that has had its own ups and downs, but Dana
Altman's a damn good coach, and so you better be
ready to play out there. And I think that that
is going to be your challenge. And then you have
the Ohio State Buckeyes coming to town for Senior Night.
Senior Night's always really interesting because I've learned that there

(43:53):
isn't really any extra emotion that makes a difference over time.
It can in sperets. This will be interesting because you know, look,
Anthony lel is beloved at Assembly Hall. Probably I think

(44:13):
he's proven his worth this year. Probably should have had
an opportunity sooner than this. But sometimes coaches will fall
in love with more glamorous skills than what Anthony is
brings to the floor. You know, while he doesn't score much,
Ali wins. It's the whole point of this, isn't it

(44:36):
So the fact that that Leo will get plenty of attention.
Trey Galloway obviously will as well. I think there is
a people cheer for a lot of these guys, but
it's different with lele and Galloway because they've been around
and say, Luke Goodie, who's been good this year, but

(44:56):
it's only this year. It's different with the other guys.
But Leo isn't going to suddenly light up for thirty
four points on a senior night. So the Hoosiers are
going to have to come ready to play against an
Ohio State team that basically is a matchup for Indiana.
The Hoosiers are eighteen and eleven overall right now, nine

(45:18):
and nine. Ohio State is eight and ten and sixteen
thirteen overall, basically the same program, and they have win
over Texas this year too. They beat Kentucky earlier this year,
so they can put it together. Eight one, two three

(45:38):
nine three, twenty six hundred is the number. And then
you have the Big ten tournament coming up, So the
Hoosiers just have to worry about taking care of the
business to close out the season on a high note.
Oh good god, eight one, two, three, nine three, twenty
six hundred is a number. Thank god. We got another

(46:01):
call because this talking is killing me. Uh call if
you have your name, where you're from, and what you got.

Speaker 10 (46:09):
Hey, Ken, it's Troy from Elkhart.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Hey, Troy, how you doing?

Speaker 10 (46:13):
Not bad? Doing a little bit better than you? I
guess right now, man, I tell you.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
One of those things is just the last couple of
days have been rough, and earlier today I thought I
was going to have to cancel the show because I
could barely talk. So this is actually really impressive for
me today.

Speaker 10 (46:31):
Hey, you can't cancel because we need our therapy, you know,
just a few minor points.

Speaker 6 (46:41):
One.

Speaker 10 (46:41):
Obviously, very happy for the win, you know, happy for
the team, the coaching staff and of course US fans,
and you know, I hope, you know, I hope it's
a good rest of the season as well. One one thing,
I Elderic or whoever, the one of the commentators for

(47:02):
the game, he said what he said something to him about,
you know, averaging twenty one wins the season just isn't
good enough or something like that, and it's like, well,
it's it's not just the wins and losses. It's how
you win and how you lose. And I mean it

(47:24):
just shows he doesn't get it because, you know, just
this year alone, you know, Louisville, you know, Iowa, Illinois,
just just the fact Nebraska for his whole tenure, but
especially the fact that Illinois could happen right after Iowa.

(47:45):
Just says he's out of touch with how expectations are
at any not just Indiana, but any any program that
expects to be, you know, towards the top, which which
we aren't, but you know that's what we're striving for.
And he knew that's the expectations.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Yeah, you know, I call it. I caught that as well,
that comment about you know, I have averaged twenty one wins. Uh,
And that was my thinking too, is that, Okay, you know,
you may have averaged twenty one wins, but you come
to Indiana and you say what your standards are that
you should compete for a Big ten championship, you should

(48:26):
compete for, you know, a solid spot in the NCAA tournament.
And I'm sorry, Mike, uh you know it is you
look at that record and what he has done as
head coach, and he hasn't come close to the standard
he set for himself. You know, you go nine and
eleven your first year, as as as the wo's your coach,

(48:51):
twelve and eight the second year, ten and ten, last year,
you're five hundred this year. I don't know. The standard
that you set for me wasn't a be a five
hundred coach? And and you know, and so it's great
that you were able to pad those wins during the
non conference schedule. But like you said, I always say
all the time, it's not how it's how many. But

(49:12):
when you lose games back to back, games where you
just get boat raced by twenty five, and you have
just so many losses of twenty plus points, you know,
double digit losses where you're not competing to me, I
don't care. You know, you go ahead and you put
together the wins to get to an average of twenty one.
You know, who gives a damn you? You aren't competing

(49:35):
at the level that you said you were going to
put it at.

Speaker 10 (49:39):
Yep, yep, and and so it's it's yeah, it's just
uh funny, funny to hear that he had made that
comment to to the guy. But you know, pregame or
whatever whenever they other or an interview or conversation. You know,

(49:59):
I just, uh, you know, I guess that I really
helped things work out well for the rest of the
season for the team. I've said it before and I'll
say it again. Trey, please don't shoot threes. You know
I'm not saying never shoot threes, but that's just not
your shot. I mean, to me, the the two shooters

(50:20):
are are in Bacco and Goodie and obviously Goodie, but
you know, those guys to me, have more of a
green light to shoot threes. But even then you shoot
them when it's when it's right. But Trey, uh, you know,
I know he had a good game the other night,
but you know, percentage wise for the threes, but that

(50:44):
is just not his shot in in normal circumstances in
my opinion. And you know, I'll I'll just say someone
was commenting about as gear and I'll say same thing.
I wish Youdid just had more gear available for us.

(51:04):
For US fans, maybe some of the coaching gear that
you see on the sidelines, maybe not necessarily basketball stuff
with the football gear which was available to us. I
don't know why I'm pitching that. I just am and yeah,
thanks again for a great show.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
I really appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Eight one, two, three, nine, three,
twenty six hundred is the number calls keep piling on in.
Go up to our next caller, caller, and you have
your name, where you're from, and what you got.

Speaker 8 (51:36):
Yeah, hey, Ken, how are you doing?

Speaker 1 (51:37):
I'm doing great?

Speaker 8 (51:40):
Yeah, I just wanted to say, really appreciate Whatson finally
going to this kind of seven man rotation down the
stretch where we've got a lot of guys in there
just playing hard and you know, making us proud as
people watching it, and you know, who knows what where
we go from here. It's been a rough ride, but

(52:03):
you know, you've got guys in there that are playing
hard now and we're playing one big and we're spreading
the floor and doing different things and just really excited
about you know how maybe we end this run and
just the guys playing loose with Woodson no longer, you know,
knowing that hanging over his head and just excite about
what the future holds here just to end the season.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Well, it also to me it has allowed fans to
feel good about cheering for the Hoosiers. And let me
explain that I've seen it happen time and time again,
whether it was Mike Davis or Tom Crean or Archie
Miller or you know, Mike Woodson. There comes a point
when there becomes a faction of fans who are disappointed

(52:47):
when Indiana wins because they want to see a head
coaching change. What this has done is is him announcing
that he's going to resign at the end of the
year allows that faction of fans to cheer for the
Hoosiers and feel good about them winning while also knowing
that change is coming. And so that to me also

(53:08):
helps when you're watching these games. And it also to
me when you see them playing hard and finding some
consistency and being effective when they only have the one
big on the floor, you just say to yourself, where
the hell was this earlier in the year, and why
couldn't it have been you know, like this in January
as opposed to wait until now.

Speaker 8 (53:30):
For sure, I mean, I think We've been saying that
for right for the better part of a year.

Speaker 5 (53:34):
It just seemed a little silly some.

Speaker 8 (53:35):
Of the things that were going on. But you know,
as a guy who's a Hoosier graduate of two thousand
and a lifetime Indiana fan, and you know, I've got
kids now that are fourteen and sixteen, I'm just waiting
for that time again to show them, you know, the
Hoosiers that we've known for years, and hopefully we can
get the right coach in place. It seems like, even

(53:58):
though we've lost a couple of guys here, that there's
some good options on the table, and uh, with Pam
Witten and the money flowing, it seems like we understand
what it takes to win in athletics and what that
means for the university. So I just hope the fan
base can get behind the team and get excited here
as we close this out, just knowing it's the end

(54:18):
of an era and with Signetti and what we have
here potentially for basketball in the future, it's a it's
a good time to be a Hoosier.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Yeah, and especially if the some of the peripheral people
get out of the way and let Scott do his
job and from her, I understand they're going to do
that this time around.

Speaker 8 (54:36):
Yeah, appreciate the call and go Hoo's yours.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Thanks so much, really appreciate it.

Speaker 9 (54:42):
Thanks.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Eight one, two, three, nine three, twenty six hundred is
the number. We got another caller who's been waiting patiently
on the line. Caller, if you have your name, where
you're from, and.

Speaker 6 (54:53):
What you got, he can It's Peter from California.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
Hey, Peter, how you doing.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
I'm doing well.

Speaker 6 (55:00):
I really like the wind today. I was impressed. The
team is gelling and there's no denying it. They're they're
playing with confidence. I saw a little bickering maybe in
the in the huddle towards the end with Maleik. I
don't know, it didn't seem that big a deal.

Speaker 5 (55:15):
But there's no on.

Speaker 6 (55:16):
Court fighting, which is just it's just such a relief
because that was so frustrating to witness throughout the season.
But uh, yeah, you know, I'm going back through the
rolodex of my mind of Woodston's time and when he
got hired right off the bat, you know, with speaking
the third person, I think everybody picked up on that,

(55:39):
and you know, there's a couple of times that I
scratched my head. I remember when Finisy hit that last
second shot against Purdue, and I remember distinctly Woodson kind
of taking credit for it after the game, making a
comment about it, I'm your coach now, And it seemed
like a small thing at the time, but it's kind
of a reoccurring thing with Woodston, and I don't want
to rag on him, and I'm for the coaching staff,

(56:01):
but I you know, I do wonder how this is
all going to play out with him, because he's using
the media to make arguments, you know, on TV and
such about you know, this not being good enough, his record,
so on and so forth, about if they went out
or on Senior night, or how this is going to
play out, if he's going to use the bully pulpit
on the way out to you know, to leave or

(56:23):
Eric Grievance's I guess we'll see, But you know, I
think I hope he finished strong, and I'm going to
root this team on, And you know, I would love
to be in the dilemma of us making some type
of run where, you know, would it has an argument
to say I should be back, but uh, I just don't.
I don't see that happening, of course, but I would
love that dilemma to be to exist.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Well, look, you know, I know, I know that Mike
does not like that he's in the position that he's in.
That he does he thinks that the uh, the criticisms
have been unfair. I wholeheartedly disagree with him, But you know,
it doesn't really make a difference. He's not going to

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be back next year. And there have been changes in
what he has done since he made that announcement that
I don't know would have happened had that announcement not
been made. So to me, you know, it's just a
situation where now Indiana fans can sit back and relax
and watch and enjoy and hope to see the kind

(57:25):
of team that plays hard, you know, every time out
like they did in the second half against Purdue that
they did today, and overwhelm a team that they were
clearly better than. And look, they have the talent advantage
over most teams they play. They just haven't been able
to put it together. And I also don't want to
hear all last year Mike Woodson talked about how this

(57:47):
team's still coming together. We had a bunch of new
faces and all of that. He was making those same
excuses in late February. Well it's March, I know.

Speaker 6 (57:55):
And it's like I agree, and it's like you think, well,
he's in the pros. There's a lot or give us
all be at this ball. As far as I'm concerned,
he knows where we have a short season. You have
to stack wins, and you have to win by margins
in your non conference. All those things are are facts.
And you know, I'm just like you said, I'm just

(58:16):
happy they're playing with heart and grit. I don't care
if they lose, if they go out there, and I
know I speak for all of us, like they just
go out and compete. You know that win lose. You
can't fault people fighting and go and fight whatever. The
reason is down for them fighting and selling and like
you said, the pressure is off. I agree with all that.
It's just nice to see them playing that brand of basketball.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
That we love absolutely absolutely and again.

Speaker 5 (58:43):
Have a good one.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Feel better, okay, I will try. Thank you so much.
I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Yeah, heures.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Thanks. Eight one, two, three, nine, three twenty six is
the number.

Speaker 9 (58:54):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
I haven't really looked at the chat too much day
because we've been having. We've had a dozen calls so far.
I just love it. Again. It really helps me because
I don't have to have to talk nearly as much.
I've already gone through a my full water bottle and
most of another drink. But Lynn on the chat says,
great win. Finally a victory without sweating it out down

(59:16):
the stretch either way, Happy for all the seniors. Sure
we all expected more, but the kids haven't quit and
have brought a lot in the last few weeks. That's
exactly it. I mean, that's the bottom line on this
thing is Indiana didn't won this one comfortably from the start.
And it's been a while really since Indiana has been

(59:39):
able to do that to where they just were on
cruise control. You know, got out to a nice lead,
never let anybody really get, you know, a lot closer.
You expected that, you hope that that's what they would
do against a team like Washington. But you know, last
two last Wednesday night against Penn State, Penn State was
right there the whole time, the whole time, the whole time.

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You know, at Michigan State, they had they had, they
were up, but the Spartans made a run and made
that one a little more tense than maybe it needed to.
When they were at Ohio State, they were up ten
and let Ohio State come back and and force overtime.
It's been a while since Indiana has had a nice,

(01:00:25):
comfortable win like this, so it is something that you
could build on and at least start this West Coast
road trip on a high note. Along the way, John says,
does Goodie have another year? Keep hearing one a year?
He only played ten games. That to me is uh.

(01:00:46):
He is a senior, you know, he he has uh,
he's going to be end up having uh four. This
will be his fourth year. I don't think that he
has another year. I suppose I could be wrong about that,

(01:01:07):
but from what I understand, I mean, and the other
thing too is are you going to go in the future.
It says any extra seasons of eligibility awarded due to
COVID nineteen will be recognized following a player's regular senior season.

(01:01:29):
But he started as a freshman after COVID, so he's
limited to the final ten games of the season as
a sophomore, and that might be an injury thing, so
you know, possibly, but I would be surprised again with
a new head coach in here, you might be looking
to to move on. Rosswell says greetings Canon, fellow Hoosiers

(01:01:54):
from Lake Cumberton, Cumberland, Kentucky. Nice win tonight. I'm gonna
be going to Kentucky. I mean we're going over to
Mammoth Cave here and later this month. Kind of excited
about that, and my parents went there on honeymoon. I
love cave. Got another caller, caller, if you have your name,
where you're from, and what you got.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
This is Bill from White Lake, Michigan.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Hi.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Bill, how you doing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
I'm doing apparently better than you are.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Good to hear from you again.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Well, I love listening to your program. You're so informative,
and I don't know, I just just handled the program
so well, but I have I don't want to have
to talk a lot, and I hope you get feeling
better very soon. But my question is, and hopefully it's
a short answer, how do you figure the plus and
minus when you're talking about the team. I've heard that,

(01:02:47):
but I don't know how it figured.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
So the plus minus has to do with the number
of points the point differential when you're on the floor.
So plus minus is uh, for instance, in the Indiana
Uh Lele was was, well, we'll do We'll do an

(01:03:10):
easy one with Mackenzie and Bacco. It was minus one.
So it's a number of points your team scores versus
the number of points that are given up on that
and so that's how the plus and minus comes out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Oh well that's simple enough. Uh. And Anthony Leo, I
really like him. If you had a whole bunch of
players just like him, except maybe both skillful, you'd have
oil a basketball team. And I'm hoping the Hoosiers do
really well. I've been fanned for years and years and years,

(01:03:46):
and every time they win, my wife is happy, because
you knows I'm happy, and if I use is unhappy,
and she's unhappy because this is not as puzzling around home.
So I'd think go Hoosiers.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Yeah, absolutely so much. I appreciate it, Thank you so much.
I appreciate him asking about the plus minus because I I,
you know, I talk about these things and I'm used
to him, and I think that most people probably do know,
but that doesn't mean everybody does. So that is uh,
you know good.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
It's it's a team's point differential when a player is
on the floor. So it's an important measure of how successful,
how much of an impact a player has on winning
does it. It doesn't always work out that way, but
it you know, it's there's a reason Anthony Leal is
plus twenty six and Indiana wins comfortably. He's out there.

(01:04:40):
Even though he didn't score a point, he helped Indiana
score a lot more points when he was on the
floor as opposed to you know, other players. So that's uh,
really good to see. Eight win, two, three, nine three,
twenty six hundred is the number. Make this a last

(01:05:04):
call for phone calls. We've had a ton of them,
and I can't thank you guys enough for calling in
tonight and taking time out on your Saturday night after
a who's your win? Indiana turned in a great performance.
It doesn't look like and I didn't think we were
gonna have anything from Mike Woodson tonight, but again, I

(01:05:27):
just this was a game that was exactly what you
wanted Indiana to do on a trip to Washington. Take
control early, win comfortably, show signs of improvement, and then
throw in the alternate uniforms. And it looked fantastic. So
this is about as good a win as you're gonna

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get in the Big Ten this late in the season.
Road win, comfortable, road win. Washington isn't good. But you
can only play the team that's in front of you,
and so you better handle them with some kind of authority.
And Indiana's done just that, so I give them a
lot of credit for that. The Hoosiers move to eighteen

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and eleven on the season, nine and nine in the
Big Ten, and have opportunities to claw their way into
the NCAA Tournament. This game against Oregon on Tuesday is
going to be just massive. And Oregon has stumbled, but
they're still twenty one and eight. They're good, So the

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Hoosiers better be ready to play in what should be
a fun and hostile environment. I didn't hit the view
button in time. There also tells me I should wrap
this up. Goodness God, So it'll be a late night
on Tuesday, but I will be hosting the show. Hopefully

(01:06:52):
my voice will sound a hell of a lot better
than it does tonight. That's a nine o'clock tip off,
so it's about two hours after tip off two fifteen
when they're on the road. Someone on Twitter was complaining
that I didn't wait for Fish and honor his broadcast.
I don't do that on the road. That's not what

(01:07:14):
we do on the road. We got to get moving
on this, so I'm not not worried about that. Plus
I really don't care about pissing off Fish. I've known
him long enough that it's it's okay. And I also
know that Fish doesn't care at all. So Indiana seventy eight,
sixty two winners and just plenty to be happy about.

(01:07:37):
You could, you could pick some knits with this, but
they won handily, and that's exactly what you want. Well,
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