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June 30, 2025 72 mins

Mike and Devaughn give our crew's rankings for all six Final Destination Movies along with the opening set pieces.

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None. Hello everyone and welcome to
the pod and the pendulum. We are the podcast that covers
all the horror franchises one movie in one episode at a time.
And sometimes we rank things That's right, we are back with a
another ranking episode coming off our final destination
Bloodlines episode. We figure 6 is the magic number.

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Why don't we go ahead and rank these films and also the opening
set pieces from worst to 1st? It's ironic that I am recording
today on Father's Day because I am not alone.
I am joined by Mr. Daddy Disco himself.
He's the Co host of the Spectre Cinema Club.
He is the Co host of Tainted Love, a podcast on dating,

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relationships and sex. All things sexy and he's a great
doggy daddy himself to little Calcifer.
Mr. Devon Taylor, how are we? I'm doing fantastic, yes, not
not not quite ready for for human baby yet.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I love kids.
I'm a I'm a big kids person people.
It's funny. People always seem to be shocked

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by that. I'm like, do I come off as a a
not kids person? People are like, oh really?
I'm like, I love children. No, you have that good energy.
You definitely have that good energy where I could see you
being great with kids. I am not great with young
children. Like I specifically don't work
with little little kids because I'm not that great with them.

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Like and babies to me look like little weird potatoes.
I didn't really how do I say this?
I started to really love being adad when my kid turned 3 and.
Had that's what I always say. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like the
1st 18 months I'm like, yo, y'all look like little like
freakazoids, like babies are so weird.

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And then yeah, and then it's like afterwards and it's like,
OK, now, now, now that you got some features and stuff.
It's always funny, but my my dadis kind of a similar way in that
he also like you wouldn't assumehe's great with kids.
Like he's like, you know, my dad, he's covered in tattoos, he
cusses all the time, like, you know, just like all the things,
but like he is so fucking good with children and it's just like

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always like, like people knew mydad like again, he's not that.
He's not a sweetheart because heis, but in his own way, but he's
also very just very gruff and straightforward.
You know, some people are alwayslike, Oh my God, you're desk.
But like he, he's also like fantastic with kids.
Find that sometimes the best mixthough, like a gruff exterior,

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but then you get the little munchkins that kind of like melt
your heart a little bit, you know what I mean?
Like you're gruff with the adults, but you cut the kids a
lot. Yeah, that's literally like
that. Yeah, no, for sure.
And then? Yeah, I have found that, like,
middle school kids are my sweet spot right now that I have like,

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because like, they're just youngand dumb.
And they remind me of being thatage and being incredibly stupid
myself. And, you know, like trying to
give those kids a lot of grace as they navigate those like late
adolescence, early teen years, which I described like junior
high is the worst, like 3 years of a kid's life.

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That's just so hard. So that is my sweet spot right
now. I tend to have a soft spot for
those folks. Yeah, middle schoolers are
funny. It's like they're like middle
schoolers. It's like that's when they're,
you know, still figuring stuff out.
But then at the same time, like they're at that.
That's when they're at the age when they start to think they,
like, know stuff. And it's like, it's like, yeah,

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you know stuff, but you don't know stuff.
So it's like middle schoolers. Are, you know, a little?
Are super funny to me. Yeah, you know enough to be
dangerous, is what I would do. Enough to be dangerous.
I love that. Speaking of being dangerous,
here's what we're going to do today.
We are going to rank actually, let's do a little housekeeping.
Let's do that first. So first with some housekeeping,

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Like what is the feed where we? Release, you can't, you can't
put a, you can't put a price on on 1st experiences like that,
you know? Those kids were champs man.
One of them like puked after eating 2 hot dogs in a minute,
and then he sat back down and finished another three in a
total of 5 minutes for five hot dogs.

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And that is resiliency. That is what I teach these
middle schoolers as a school counselor, how to be resilient.
And my friend, he was very resilient, OK.
They'll they'll get to it. That's that's light work.
Me and me and Garrett went and saw Trouble every day last week
and I had three hot dogs before the movie started.
Dead ass. It just it's tough because like

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they go down so easy and that being much, you know, I'm not
even going there. Arielle could pull a dirty
there. I'll just get cancelled.
They go down so easy and you know, then all of a sudden you
get like the bubble guts like 345 hot dogs in.
But I love a good hot dog. That that's the only thing that

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found Destination 3 was missing at their Little Town festival.
There was no hot dog eating contest.
Good, good point. Good point.
Well, thank you for bringing it back in.
Thank you for reigning us back in here.
As I say, we'll do this in an hour today, in like 8 minutes
in. Here's what we're doing today.
We are going to rank worse the first all of the Final

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Destination films as well as at a separate ranking all of the
opening major set pieces. We're not going to rate every
kill in Final Destination, but just like the six opening set
pieces and I say we like trade off, we'll do like movie set
piece, movie set piece. I think that'll keep it kind of

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fresh and snappy. All right.
OK, let's do it. All right.
Do you want to kick things off? Yeah, I'll kick things off.
I'm excited because our for for the first time ever, this is the
first time this ever happened. Our consensus list is my exact
ranking for this franchise. For real.
Yeah, I was looking down at it and yeah, the so our our like

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crew consensus pick is my exact list.
So I I don't have to do the thing today where I'm like,
well, the list is this, but my personal like no, this is mine.
So that's actually a it works out very nicely.
So at the bottom we'll start offwith the movies ranking them
worst to 1st at number six. No surprise here.

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Coming in with six points is thefinal destination, which is the
4th entry. I feel like this movie is it's
become one of those classic punching bag kind of movies to
where like everybody just can always agree that this one goes
at the bottom and not because, and I don't even think it's
terrible. Like it's not it's not.

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It's like it's it's definitely the worst of the bunch.
Something has to go at the bottom, but at the same time,
it's a final destination movie. Still, it has the things, it has
a couple good moments in it. And I will say that I think the
finale at the mall slash movie theater, like all the stuff
going on there is one of the better climaxes of the of the

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series. Honestly, like if if the whole
movie could have been on the level of that third act, it
would be pretty solid. But unfortunately the the 3D
effects and reliance on CGI definitely drags this one down
to the bottom. Yeah, I think it's a matter,
like you said, if something has to go last and it does have, you

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know, like I don't think there'sany bad Final Destination movie.
Like it's not a franchise or I'mlike, if I do a rewatch, I'm
like, woof, I'm going to skip this movie.
It's not one of those for me where is like with Halloween,
I'm going to skip Resurrection every single time.
Like I'm not going to go back tothat.
I might decide to not go back tothe David Gordon Green movies at

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this point. I'm like, I can skip those for a
little bit. Not that those are bad, but I'm
like they kind of taper off pretty quickly for me.
Whereas like this, like it hits the formula and knows what it's
doing. It's just like like you said,
the 3D where it had to be 3D, that was not great.
And also it does this thing where every character is an

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asshole like. There's yeah, this is the root.
The cast is awful for this one. Like, I mean, there's no,
there's no like, you know, actors of note in it.
They all like I I don't even remember their names.
I've seen it. I've seen this movie multiple
times. I couldn't tell you any of their
names right now. It's a it's a really bad cast.

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Except for except for Bubba Gump.
He Bubba's good. It does do like with the
credits, something cool where you have the kind of like X-ray
vision of all the major kills throughout because they thought
at the time like this was going to be it, like it'll be the last
one. So it kind of like plays the
hits and it does like the 3D rendering and the like X-ray

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visions of like the bones breaking, the tendon snapping,
decapitations of like all the major kills with the credits,
which is really, really fun. And that guy said there's no
necessary bad one. But like the thing was like,
let's have a white supremacist in here for some reason.
And it's like, why are we doing this in a Final Destination

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movie? I don't need that.
So this was last on everybody's list.
So out of six films, it got 6 total points for an average of
1. And I will do the opening
rankings works the first like at#6 the final destination, the
NASCAR opening scene, which is not a bad opening scene.

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Like it's not bad at all. It's just something has to go
last and there's a lot of 3D. Yeah, I mean a lot of rendering.
I mean some of the kills in it are decent.
The thing the thing with the NASCAR opening is in
comparatively to pretty much anyof the other opening
premonitions is this one doesn'tplay on a common fear.

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Like, you know, like a lot of people aren't hanging out at the
racetrack. Like it's that's it's not that
common of a thing versus all theother ones play on like a very
common fear that anyone can kindof be at.
It's like, OK, yeah, maybe I'll be at an event and something
happens. But like it's just it's just not
it's not universal enough. It's a it's a little just like,

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OK, yeah, what are you doing at the NASCAR track?
Yeah, sure, something like that might happen because cars crash
there all the time, so it's likethat already makes sense.
That's why people go like peoplego to make jokes of it in the
movie, like they're going for the crashes.
Yeah. So that's why that one
definitely falls towards the bottom, because it doesn't

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really tap into that. I was going to ask you that is
whether or not how some of theserankings go relates to, you
know, how likely it is for you to possibly experience this
because like and look, no shade on NASCAR, but it's just not my
thing. And I know at the time that this

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came out and I think 2009 and NASCAR was huge like it and it
still is huge and it's very popular.
There's like a like thousands and thousands go to these like
racing speedways, but the thought of like sitting outside
in 90° temperature and watching someone turn left for three
hours, like it just doesn't havea lot of appeal to me

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whatsoever. So like, there's no situation
where I would ever go to a NASCAR event.
Like even if I was single and the person I was really
interested in was like, I reallywant to go to NASCAR.
Like I'd be like, cool, go with your Boo, go with your
girlfriends. Like I'm going to sit this one
out and just play Donkey Kong. Like I don't want to get laid

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that bad to go to a NASCAR eventlike this.
So there's, like you said, there's No Fear of it here for
me. Once yeah yeah couldn't be me I
wouldn't I I just wouldn't be inthose stands it it just wouldn't
happen yeah and so yeah at the bottom that one it also makes.
Sense a lot of 3D like they haveone section of crowd and then
they render it over and over again.

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It does do one interesting thingwhere like 1 character who
survives the initial outbreak, like when she runs out and you
think that she saved, she gets like crushed.
Like, not like right thereafter,like in like right outside the
stadium, which was something new.
So yeah. And once once again, no trying.
Something a little different. Yeah, once again, nobody has.

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I don't think there's a common phobia of tire from the sky
falling and crushing me. You know, it doesn't doesn't
doesn't quite play. Yeah.
So that one, it got 12 points all together for an average of
two. What I had to do for these
because one of our Co hosts had has not seen the bloodlines.

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So we went by the total average,you know, if in terms of like
what their points were. So we one Co host could only
rate 5 and I didn't want to Dingbloodlines all right at #5 for
movies. This was actually a little bit
surprising to me that it came inthis low in that final

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destination too. It got 20 points for a 3.33
average and I'm a little shockedit came in so low in the movie
rankings. Rewatching it, I kind of had it
closer to like my middle to the top A for the opening and I

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think it's a lot of fun and it'salso starring Wishmaster 3,
Zone, AJ Cook and unrecognizablein this movie.
Bringing back Allie Lauder is clear before you know for a
leather go round. It just didn't make that cut.
And what was it? Why do you think this one is so

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low? It once again, because this is
my exact ranking. This is where I have it.
And yeah, I mean, this is this is actually been like if I have
any hot takes about the series, it is that because you're you
say you're surprised, but but Riddle me this before we get to
like when we get to the openings.
Besides the opening, what's the best part of this movie?

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I can't like it has nothing. It has nothing memorable.
It's too soap opera E like because this is the one where
it's like everyone's complete strain because most because in
most of the movies, the people involved in the in the things
usually know each other in some capacity.
This and bloodlines are the onlytwo where it's just like the

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catastrophe is happening to likea group of complete strangers.
So so in this one, it doesn't work in that way.
There's I can't like as again, aside from that opening, none of
the like the the the only other memorable scene for me in this
one is the very last 1 though kid exploding at the BBQ.
Like aside from that, there's nothing going on in this movie

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and a few. Things I really like about this
one, number one, it surprises you a bit in that like when she
gets out of the car, like her friends are immediately poleaxed
and go up in flames like that I wasn't expecting.
So that is a kind of a nice little.
You almost even want to say riffon the formula because it is

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only the second movie, so it's kind of too soon to call it a
formula. I do like like the burnout in
this one. Like he actually has a fairly
good emotional moment where he'slike, hey, if something happens
to me here is the key to my apartment, please get rid of
like all the drugs and pornography so my mom doesn't

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see them. Like, that's actually pretty
affecting. Like I, you know, 'cause I'm
getting older, I'm like, I mighthave to, do not like, do have to
do a will. But not only that, like some
sort of like, hey, if something were to happen to me, here is
how to let everybody know that something has happened to me.
Like, I have a great fear that like one day you guys are all

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going to log on and be like, where's Mike?
And like, my funeral will have happened.
And my wife is not letting anyone know, you know, she's
like already moved on and is like setting up Tinder dates or
whatever. Who knows she would not do that.
But you know, you get what I'm coming from.
She just. She just can't wait to empty out
that Patreon account and run. She but she's also oh, she knows

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how much I'm insured for and shewants me to up it this summer so
yeah, that's my life. She.
I also like like the lottery winner, like that scene.
It's this is what I like is thatit's the movie that embraces the
comic side of this series. It's the first movie is like

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very serious. It plays, it doesn't really play
it for laughs for the most part.This is when, like, death is
starting to do some real work and it's like, OK, this premise
is kind of ludicrous. Let's lean into how ludicrous it
is and have some fun with it. So that's why I enjoy it.

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See, I I don't see the comedy coming in yet in this one.
And again, that's like my other thing too is like the soap opera
aspect, like feels really weird.But but yeah, so an interesting
thing with these movies, a couple of directors kind of
trade off in between. And the two that are at the
bottom are both the David R Ellis and Trees.

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Yeah. Who was a great stuntman and
stunt performer. And then, you know, he directed
these and they're not necessarily.
But again, I don't think there'sa bad Final Destination movie.
So no, no here at. The bottom of the list?
I'm still going to watch it every time.
And yeah. I I don't skip any of these.
So that's, you know, I, I, I don't want to.
Oh, it's the bad. No, it's definitely not a bad

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movie. Do you want to give our number 5
for the opening kills or openingset pieces?
So if we were going to talk about anything, I'm surprised by
having this one down fairly low.At #5 is a little surprising to
me. Is the the plane explosion from
Final destination one from the original.

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And I mean, for me, I have this a little bit higher on my
opening opening set pieces just because again, like within the
context of the series, I think of fear of flying is so common.
Like that is such a common thing.
It's one of those things like my, my best friend is terrified
no matter how many times he's flown, He like is terrified of

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flying. He's like, he's like, we're in a
fucking metal box in the sky. Like that's crazy, you know, and
the idea of an airplane is crazy.
So it's like for me, this one isa little bit higher up on my
list just because of the again, like the relatability aspect to
it. But then this one is a little
different than some of the otherbecause like the other opening

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kind of set pieces focus on likeobviously it's this catastrophe.
But then in this big set piece, there's smaller moments where
you see each like little individual kind of death in
this. And this one doesn't have as
many of those. This one, you know, we obviously
like people Catching Fire. That's fucking like scary shit.

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And then we have people kind of getting ripped out the windows
out in the sky and stuff. But but this one doesn't have
the like, oh the, the like the the car runs down and hit
somebody in the head or like it doesn't have like the, the like
little, it doesn't have the little individual moments.
But I think as an overall catastrophe, I think works

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really well. I had it lower than I expected
to when I was ranking these. I had done a rewatch over
Memorial Day weekend and a couple things jumped out at me.
Why I had it a lot lower. Number one, it is like to your
point, all the other ones have so much going on and they're so

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intricate, intricate in their design and the setup and just
it's like this such an elaborateset piece.
And this one is so much more straightforward and it's over so
quick. Like I actually had to when I
did my rewatch, I think I would maybe like half had my eye on it
and had to go back and redo it. I'm like, that's it.
Like I just remembered it being so much bigger and through no

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fault of the movie. I'm also like have been re
watching lost the TV show from Damon Lindelof carton cues and
the plane crash there is done better Like it's just that is
like done to me so much better that.
Or the Yellow Jackets plane crash is also really good.

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It's been so long since I watched season 1.
I'm so far behind on that show. But you're right.
Like from what I remember, that's also done really well.
I do love like when they're off the plane and they're arguing
and you have like Stiffler go, Oh no.
And then you see the plane explode.
That is pretty awesome. That is such a cool moment.

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Yeah, because I think the I think the follow through is also
important when it comes to thesewith these scenes.
And yeah, I like the just like you see it just like kind of
play starting to play out in thebackground and it's just like
you see the explosion and the glass, you know, shatters and
everything. I was like, so like, I really
like the follow through scene onthat one too.
This was fairly low, not just inthe rankings but overall for us,

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like it was 14 points altogetherfor only like 2 and a third
points per ranking. So to give you an idea, like our
top film is more than like double that.
So it was really low in a lot ofpeople's on a lot of people's
list. All right, do you want to do the
next film #4? Yeah.

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So coming up on in the number four slot of our movie rankings
with 19 points is the most recent film, the one that we
just reviewed last week, Final Destination Bloodlines coming in
here at #4. And again, like I, I saw, I've
softened a little bit on this one compared to my first, like

(25:51):
initial reaction and after our conversation last week.
But still at the same time, it's, it's just, it's too, it's
too up and down, you know, to tokind of be put into the top
three because again, like, as I mentioned last week, there's a
really solid chunk of a good final Destination movie in this,

(26:11):
but it's also surrounded by a lot of really dumb and bad at
the same time. So it's like it's it's it's a
very it's an odd entry. You know, obviously it's the
most successful one in terms of finances and which is great.
We're going to get more very excited for that.
And I appreciate their attempts at trying to add in some more

(26:33):
lore aspects with the whole bloodlines and like just making,
I mean, we already knew death was a petty bitch, but this
takes it to the next level when he's like, no, there's entire
bloodlines that shouldn't be here because they avoided death.
It's like, my goodness, my guy, you got you're taking your job
too seriously. So bloodlines is it's an

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interesting one. I appreciate the effort.
The directors are definitely, like, fans of the series.
So like, you know, I'm not gonnapoo poo it, poo poo them for
that. But like, at the same time, it's
just not nearly as strong. So an interesting thing about
the list of the even numbered ones in the bottom 3 and the top
three are the odd numbered entries.

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It's like that mean something. Yeah.
It's kind of like the Star Trek films or all the even films are
the good ones and all the odd ones are the ones to avoid.
Although I've never watched a Star Trek movie, but that's what
I'm told. I am surprised that Bloodlines
is a little lower and one of ourpanelists, like she has not had
a chance to see this yet. But even if she had, I think at

(27:40):
most it would have like swapped places with our next film just
because of where it ranks. I you know, I wasn't
necessarily. I love all the Final Destination
films, or at least as a shame. I like them a lot.
I'm on record of saying like it's the best, most consistent
franchise of the first decade ofthe century.
Like I would take it over Saw just because I love the tone of

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it more. Like Saw does some similar
things in terms of the set pieces for the kills, but it's
not always my cup of tea. Although I do have a greater
appreciation for it after covering the franchise.
This just this film just hit me at the right time.
Like I I'm like, you know what, it's Friday afternoon.

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I've had a really long week. I've been working like a
bastard. I'm just going to go see the new
final destination tonight and I'm going to go see it in like
40 X IMAX. And it was a pack theater.
Everybody just got it at the same time, like at the exact
same moment. And I think it was like the
reveal that Eric's a bastard, basically, that mom had an

(28:46):
affair, cheated on dad. At that moment, everybody in the
theater just realized, oh, this is a comedy.
And from that point on, like, itwas one of the best movie going
crowds I've ever been in. And sometimes a movie just hits
right because you're not wrong. Like after the opening set piece
there's a huge chunk that lags and then things just speed up

(29:09):
and slow down for no reason. Like you have the exposition
dump when you meet all the cousins and the aunt and uncle.
It's like that is like played way too quickly.
Act 3 is over. Like if you get up to pee when
act three starts, you might missthe whole thing.
But there's. Other just like the fake out

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death, the when she calls her own shot basically with like
there's the leaf blower and the soccer ball and I might hit in
the head like she's just like, Iwould not want to play horse
with her because like she's going to be like hitting crazy
shots at that point. Eric's fake out the whole MRI
scene and like the yeah. Piercing like basically like to

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like it from the from the BBQ through the hospital.
Like if the rest of the movie was on par with that section,
like this would be one of the higher ranked ones.
But the the beginning is a little bit wonky to kind of
start. And then yeah, that finale is
just like, probably, I'd say thefinale.
It's the worst one in the seriesfor Black.

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I, you know what? It's that or two, I think, in
terms of finale. Once again, I don't even
remember the finale in two I'm she's driving.
To a lake? Yeah.
She drowns. They kind of bring that back.
So I would say like what it proves is you don't need to be
an hour and 50 minutes long, like 90 minutes in and out for.

(30:34):
These, yeah, this one's the longest one I of the of the
franchise, I believe. Also, Grandma Iris's scheme to
like, avoid death, like it doesn't work.
Like she just basically locks herself away from society and
death is like, I got you fam. Like when it's your time on the

(30:54):
list, because he death works in like a very meticulous order.
Like he is not like he's very OCD.
He's not going out of the order of operations.
So Iris for all of her, like I have figured things out and I've
locked myself away from society.Nah, you didn't.

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It's just like, that's a massivelist, you know?
Death does not have Santa Claus powers where he can do all of it
in one night. Apparently so.
And also grant Auntie Brenda just dropping out of the movie
once her whole family is just basically genocide and then it's
like. It's it's so weird because
again, this is like the most hotand cold because there's again,

(31:37):
some really great stuff, but then this also has some big
dumb. It's like, like this is like,
yeah, this is a big. Check and Aunt Brenda before you
go to prom. Like they're so, you know,
they're so happy about like I got my date with Jenny.
Brenda is home. Like eating Ben and Jerry
straight from the bin at that point.

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I don't know. All right, a #4 for our
openings, Final destination three with the roller coaster,
which is an opening I really love.
I am a roller coaster junkie. It got 18 points, so an average
of like 3 from everybody. So right in the middle.

(32:19):
I love roller coasters. I used to not and now there's
like not a single one I won't goon.
I always worry I'm going to fallout and die.
But that is part of the appeal. And this one did it for me.
Like all of it just like the being trapped upside down and
hanging on for dear life. The kind of like bouncing around
like a pinball off of the off ofthe guardrails.

(32:44):
Like it's the fact that you get like the little kids on it as
well. And I don't know, like it's a
shitty way to go. I mean, you're trapped in there.
And I it worked for me as as a lot of Final Destination Three
works for me. So I really enjoyed that
opening, Gil. Yeah, this is, this was pretty
high up on my list. I put this at #2 as far as

(33:07):
openings go, because again, likethe, the context of this one,
because what roller coasters do,Like roller coasters are a thing
that we enjoy because they're dangerous, because they like
thrill us and scare us. So I think that's very
fascinating to play on that. I think as far as like that goes
also just like I really, I'm a sucker for the way that it

(33:30):
transitions like from like, oh, it's people are screaming
because they're having fun to now it's oh, they're screaming
because it's fucking, they're dying and you know, and
everything's going wrong. So like I like the dichotomy of
that. It still manages to have it's
like little moments like throughout it as well, whether
it's like playing on the fear oflike, you know, everyone's

(33:51):
always been on a roller coaster be like, oh, what if my harness
just comes undone, Like what then?
You know, like, you know, so it's like you have you have
those moments, you have people, you know, plummeting to their
death. Like I always love like a when
a, a body like is falling and hit something, there's always
that like really big thud, you know, like it, it, it looks

(34:11):
really good. Like they really blend the, the,
the practical and the, the CGI really well in this scene as
well. So yeah, I would I, I have the
roller coaster up pretty high onmy list.
I I really enjoy this one. And isn't it, it's kind of wild
to me that how often I, like I said, like I'm a roller coaster

(34:32):
junkie and amusement park junkie, that you look at the
people that are operating these rides and they don't.
And it's just a guy. Car yet it's just can't drive a
car yet if you know and this is who I'm putting like my life in
their hands that they're going to like check the safety
precautions that. They're pressing buttons and

(34:53):
they don't even know what they do.
You know, like. I would not surprise me if one
of them like just wanders off toget a pretzel dog and it just
keeps going around. When we went to Universal last
time, like one of my favorite rides is the Hulk and my
daughter and I went on at a bunch together and then there

(35:15):
was no line for whatever reason,I think cuz everyone was on the
Velocicoaster, which is the lasttime I've been truly terrified
on a ride. Like I'm going to die on this.
Like I'm going to fall out 100 feet above this water and it's
going to like my body is going to feel like it's hitting dry
cement. So we go back on the Hulk and
for the third time I'm like, just go in the single rider

(35:38):
line. So that way we're not standing
in line. She got on before me and the
coaster got stuck and it was me and another dad in the single
light rider line. Just like, where is it like, oh,
it's stuck right now? We were like, how are we going
to explain this? Oh yeah, we just let our kid go
on this coaster on their own. Like are they upside down?

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They're like, no, they're like, Are you sure?
Like oh, that can't happen. And I'm like, I think it could.
So yeah, I love Long story short.
I love fucking coasters so much.All right, Devon, what's our
number three movie? All right, going into the top
half of our rankings, coming in with 23 points, an average of

(36:24):
3.8. Is Final Destination the OG, the
original? And I mean, I've never been, you
know, as you guys have heard on many ranking lists, I'm never
like the a stickler for the original or anything.
But you know, obviously this movie, you know, didn't know
that it was going to become whatit becomes.

(36:45):
It's kind of its own singular thing.
Jeffrey Reddick had this idea because he was he was vying for
The X-Files was the famous impetus for this one.
And so I mean, just as far as introducing a concept, I think
is is really good. Devin Sawa has one of our pre
eminent final boys of fantastic in this as well.

(37:08):
And like you said, this one doesn't have as much humor as
some of the other entries do. It's it is playing it straight
up. But like when it does have it's
humor, it's like this like kind of it's still a very dark humor.
And James Wong directs this one and #3 again, because he's
trading off with David R Ellis kind of.

(37:29):
And, and yeah, I don't know. I, I like, you know, again,
like, you know, going on this journey with Alex and like
figuring everything out how, howthis all kind of works.
You know, it's a, it's one of the few.
They ditched this later on, which I think is probably
better. But like it's the only time like

(37:50):
where death is kind of visually represent it a little bit,
whether it, you know, they do like the trickling water, they
do the shadows and stuff like that.
There's even like a like sound effect or something that they
do. They ditch this later on and
like they don't personify death at all.
But this is the only one where they do kind of do a little bit

(38:11):
of that. And I don't know, I do like the
I like the atmosphere of this one.
This is the I would say if any of them are spooky, if any of
them are scary, it would probably be this one.
The rest of them, it's like they're scary but in a different
way. But this, but this one has like
an actual like kind of more traditional horror kind of

(38:33):
atmosphere and tone to it. Yeah, Sean, William Scott, I
want to think of the one year stretch between 99 and 2000
where he does like Steve Stiffler and American Pie.
He was on top of the world. And then you do this movie The
year after and it's such like a totally different character.
Like you think that he is going to be the asshole in this movie

(38:57):
and it's not. It's the dude from Oh God, he
was in Dawson's Creek. He was like 1 of like.
Paints and. Boyfriends Kerr Smith yes who
famously Carter you Dick. They turned like Kerr Smith's
character into like a gay character in Dawson's Creek and

(39:17):
my understanding is like they did it the writers did it
specifically because they knew he would hate that and they just
couldn't stand him. It's like my understanding.
And they're like, well, F you, dude.
So Curse Smith plays the assholein this movie.
Yeah. Final destinations of fun horror
movie. Like you said, like, death does
work in this one. And that it, like, turns the

(39:40):
knobs on the toilet so that it starts to leak and then the
water trickles out and then the water mysteriously fades away.
You get the music cue of John Denver's like, Rocky Mountain
High throughout the film, which is a amazing song.
Like I love me some John Denver,but knowing like how he died,

(40:01):
like basically flying his plane into a mountain.
Is really scary and tragic and having that play over and over
again is really, really good. And the fact that everyone aside
from Clear is like scared at some point of Devon Sala, like
the teacher, in particular your teacher who's not grateful at

(40:23):
all about him saving her life. She's like, get away from you,
freak. You frighten me.
Like that is what a thing to sayto a kid who's been through a
trauma and has saved your life. That is one of the best kills.
Like when she buys it in the kitchen and how the whole thing
goes down and then you're like, Devin Sour, don't touch the

(40:45):
knife. Don't.
And you got bloody footprints. Shows up with the.
But I think, dude, I, I don't know if we, we mentioned this
when we were talking about this recently in the first one, how
they somehow like do a whole forensics investigation in about
two hours to know that like Devin Savo was there and he
touched the knife. Like they somehow have like

(41:08):
locked this crime scene down that quickly.
It's just fun. Like the bus kill.
Like I remember like watching that and it coming out of
nowhere and being like, holy shit, like I am.
And the bus kill the the the onethe like when homing gets cut in
half from the like sheet metal from the train.
Like that's a really. Good one.

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He gets the great decapitation and it's all practical effects
at this point. Like it's all like we're doing
this, you know, on screen and it's and it's getting great kick
start to a franchise. I have it lower in my overall
rankings. I think Ari had it number one in
her rankings. Yeah, she, she had this one at

(41:50):
her number one. But again, she also said that
these kind of change depending on the day as well.
So #3 on our openings for these,we have with an average of 3.5
that we have found Destination 5, the bus suspension bridge 1.

(42:11):
And I think I have this one up pretty high as well, because I
think I think this one has like the best as far as like
individual moments go. Like I mean, somebody gets like
hot tarred. We get somebody that, you know,
goes the rebar. We have obviously the various
crashes and stuff. Like I think this one has a lot
of really good variety to it. I think this one is also like

(42:34):
the most like thrilling as far as like this.
You know, you you really kind ofhave this like a more kind of
action set piece to it with withhomie like, you know, running to
try to survive this and he like you know, him like kind of
avoiding certain things, but then still getting got it in the
end. So I think as far as like that
goes, I really enjoy it. I think it only gets dinged

(42:57):
because this is at this point I the third car related, you know,
transportation related 1. So like it maybe gets a little
bit dinged for that, but at the same time, like I think it's
still really strong, like even comparatively to like the other
highway scene that we'll talk about.

(43:19):
But like, I think it's still like, I think it's still very
strong and it has some of the best individual moments to it.
Yeah, it's a nice. This whole film was a nice
rebound from Part 4. There's like funny moments like
the dude coming out of the bathroom is the shit has hit the
fan. He's like, what the fuck?
And it's like, how have you noticed none of this?

(43:39):
But it's also like a pretty funny little moment.
You get kids in peril that are there.
It is like one of those things where it kind of walks like a a
tightrope for a lot of it. Like there's much more of a
chance that you're going to maybe be able to survive.
Like you do feel maybe a little bit less hemmed in if you can
and just get to certain spots. So there's that tension that is

(44:03):
there as well. And it's a great like you said,
it's like another, you know, like moving vehicle piece.
But that's all right. Like it's I mean, we spend so
much time in cars. You know, we spend so much time
like on transportation. And again, you have like a lot
of little kids put into peril too here.
So I think that really works as well.

(44:26):
So that came in at #3 our number2 movie was Final Destination 3,
the one where like Mary Elizabeth Winstead, like she
does some work, like she did some real work to carry this
movie on her shoulders. Like I would say she is probably
like the biggest star to come out of these movies when all is

(44:48):
said and done. Like she has gone on to have
maybe the best overall career. And it's kind of shows here like
she is head and shoulders above everybody else.
This one is a little different from the others.
Like I would say this one has a nasty streak to it that I don't
necessarily think is in the others.

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Like Part 4, the characters are all assholes.
But there's a nastiness to this one in terms of like the two
young women who they go like suntanning and end up getting like
burned alive. Like that is actually like in
terms of their deaths, it is a step above and beyond what you

(45:30):
typically see in terms of just like really mean spirit.
There's almost like a Wolf Creekor hostile level of hostility
towards the characters at that point.
And the ending of this, like it,you could actually argue the
subway kill at the end is even better than the roller coaster

(45:51):
kill at the beginning. Like that's really good.
And the way this ends were just cuts to black and you hear it go
off the rails like chef's kiss. Really well done.
Yeah, I mean, it's, it's so close.
I, I've swapped back and forth, this one being my number one or
my #2 it's only been recently that I have firmly kind of put

(46:15):
this in at my number two slot. We did a, we did a commentary
track for our Patreon, me and Garrett did for on this movie.
And yes, obviously Mary Elizabeth Winstead, this was her
year of she had her her double header of this and a black Xmas,
you know, kind of establishing herself as a scream queen.

(46:36):
But but but we got to put some respect on Ryan Merriman D com
legend. People know him from like Luck
of the Irish and other Disney Channel original movies.
So Ryan Merriman he's he's he's there too.
OK, I think I think they make a very good final duo because they
have this interesting dynamic that's like they were only

(46:57):
friends because of their like significant others, you know,
like he was the best friend of her boyfriend who dies.
Shout out Jesse Moss, another genre daddy in this as well.
But but yeah, this one, I think I really enjoy the addition of
the clues and the photos becauseshe's the she's the yearbook

(47:19):
photographer. I think that's a really nice
touch. And this one and our number one
film do the best at merging the tones.
Like you said. Like it's like there's like this
movie is like serious and sad. Like, I mean, they spend a lot
of time at funerals in this movie to the point where it
becomes like a gag almost. So it's like people like, you

(47:41):
know, they are like reeling fromtheir grief and everything and
trying to figure this out. But yet at the same time, this
movie has a really great sense of humor, like you said, like a
little wickedness to it, a little mean streak to it.
And I've always appreciated. And like you said, I I also love
when these films work in a humanantagonist as well.

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And the two young women that getkilled in the tanning scene.
Best match cut in in horror is that the is that the best match
cut? Edit in horror like the they're
actually right. The tanning beds to the the
caskets like come on. Yeah, but they're super nice.
Like they invite Wendy to go with them.
They want to do something nice for her.
And I think there's something something like you said, a

(48:24):
little more tragic because like it's taking place right at high
school graduation. So it's like huge point in all
of their life. They're like, all right, we're
going to move on. And you know, now we're going
to. Become we got our whole lives
ahead of us. No, you don't.
Well, your whole lives are aboutit's going to take as much time

(48:44):
as you can't even watch like a season of Seinfeld on Netflix in
terms of binging it. That's how much time you've got
left for our number two set piece.
We're at a little bit of recencybias here with the Sky Needle
falling apart that opens bloodlines and I know you have
this lower than most. I don't think it would have #1

(49:10):
is so far and away at the top like it didn't skew things.
I we talked about this a lot last week.
Like for the most part, I reallyenjoy it.
What Dings it for me a bit is the green screen work, which I
think is really bad and noticeable.
And it however I think like the musical cues like Reign of Fire,

(49:32):
Ring of Fire and bad mood risingand shout the fuck them kids
moment with like your shitty Nelson Muntz in a sweater vest
getting crushed at the end by a piano.
And the way all the chaos works,like your elevator bellhop doing
some real work trying to save people only to get, you know,

(49:54):
killed because there's too many people in the elevator.
I, I, I don't know. For me it worked despite some of
the shoddy CGI and green screen.Yeah, I mean, honestly, I
mentioned in our slack that, youknow, I think the openings was
is harder to rank than the movies itself because I think
they're all good to a degree, you know, minus the NASCAR one

(50:18):
kind of being a significantly weaker.
But I think this one, it's very strong in the fact that like
this one does a lot of setup compared to some of the other
ones like this one. Really this one is I feel like
it's the longest. It really takes its time with
this one, but at the same time, I don't like the way that it's
like kind of split like cuz you know, traditionally it's like we

(50:41):
see the, the premonition, but then we see how it actually
happens. Like, you know, followed up.
We don't get to see that until alittle bit later on.
So I, I don't really love that about this one.
And again, just talking about like the individual moments in
there just don't really kind of hit because a lot of it is just
people falling and it's like, well, yeah, like you fall from a

(51:02):
a high place, people die. Like, yeah, that makes sense.
I don't know. So it's like the the individual
moments don't quite do it for meeither.
And then like you said, the the blending of the CGI is just a
really not great. And it kind of doesn't do as
well for like kind of setting the the tone for the rest of the
film going forward. So yeah, I have this one pretty

(51:23):
low on on my list. It got some noticeable notable
audience like claps like the fact it starts raining bodies
and you have like your valet parkers like what the fuck and
just take off. And then at the end I get with
the kid who kind of kick starts everything getting smushed by

(51:44):
the piano like the audience broke into applause like so
that's the mark of a good scene.One thing to note though, he
never throws the penny so because she like stops him from
doing it and takes it away from him and we never see him like
just take another one out and throw that penny.
So technically, this never should have actually happened

(52:06):
because that is the thing that, you know, was supposed to kick
start everything. And I call bullshit and want my
$12.00 for my ticket back. All right, what is our number
one film? This was a surprise, but what is
#1? Number one of the final
Destination franchise as by the pod and Pendulum crew is Final

(52:29):
Destination 5 here at the top. I've always been a ride or die
for this movie. I love I, I, I still remember
watching this one in theaters, like the, the crowd just went
crazy at the end, like I've never seen like, because this
was so, you know, early on whereit's like, you know, it wouldn't
have been ruined by social mediaand stuff like that.

(52:53):
And so just the, the, the fact of the, the way that this movie
pulls off being the secret prequel gives it so much credit
to begin with. Y'all know, long time listeners
of the show. I'm always, I always ride for
the prequels and, but even asidefrom the, the surprise prequel

(53:13):
ending, this is a really great movie.
Like it like I think this one, the, the, the, the like the, the
coworkers kind of relationship is a different dynamic.
It's like, OK, like you like some of these people, but you
also don't like some of these people.
Certain people have connections and things like that.
So I think the group dynamic is interesting.

(53:34):
Again, the the suspension bridgebus opening is very strong, very
solid. I think this has a a very
entertaining cast as well and also gives us a really
interesting aspect to add in a human antagonist as well as like
introducing the idea of like, oh, so if you kill somebody

(53:56):
else, you take their time and how that would play out.
I think that I think that works really well.
It has two of my favorite kills of the franchise, but I think I
think it has what I would say isagreed upon, possibly by by the
Internet as the best kill of theentire franchise.

(54:17):
The the gymnastics set piece. I I think it truly is a like as
a that is a work of art, like the the the tension, the setup,
all the little moments the follow, like the way it plays
out like. I mean, that is such a
phenomenal scene. And I also I love the lasik

(54:37):
scene as well. I think that's a really
underrated good one. PJ Byrne getting it at the
acupuncture place, like that's areally good one.
Like this has like some really great, like just all across the
board really great kill set pieces, while also again, like
hitting a really solid tone as well as like doing some like

(54:58):
really good character work with like, you know, this guy, he's
our main character. Not only is he trying to save
everybody, he's also trying to save his relationship.
You know, we can all relate to that, you know, and him like
kind of dealing with these different big life decisions and
how, you know, death that would kind of intervenes in there.
So I really love Final Destination Five.

(55:20):
I think it's fantastic. And yeah, it is definitely the
top of my list. Yeah, I wonder if seeing Final
Destination 5 for the first timeand not knowing the surprise at
the end of the movie was like our equivalent of going to see
Psycho in 1960 and not experiencing anything like that

(55:41):
before. Like that.
Oh my God, you just killed the heroin like midway through the
movie. Because I was completely
unprepared for that angle at theend of it where it's like, hey,
we've just done a loop on itselfand you're back on the plane
from the first. 1 And it's like you go back, they put clues in
there too. It's just like it wasn't on

(56:02):
anybodies brain even that they were going to do that and it
just how well it works. Yeah.
And it comes out at a time where, you know, the iPhone
isn't so ubiquitous that you're like, oh, I would have known
because everybody was on, like, flip phones and not iPhones.
And, like, the fashion from the first movie to this one hadn't

(56:23):
really changed all that much. Like the vernacular, the style,
pop culture, There's not a huge gap in that first decade.
So it all worked. It's called.
They didn't have to cheat in order to make it work.
Basically like there's no cheat to make it sort of fit in and
like I just I remember seeing that inaudibly gasping in the

(56:44):
theater when I saw that because I was completely unprepared for
it. And it's AI think it benefits as
well from the poor reception of for because it felt like more of
a return to form. Like the effects are better, the
writing is better, the individual kills are better, and

(57:06):
you like 3. When you're rooting for Mary,
Elizabeth, Winstead and Wendy, you are rooting for these
characters. Like, you want to see them get
through and make it. And that's what makes the twist
at the end all the better because, like, oh, what a
stomach punch that is to realize.

(57:26):
Like, they've gotten through, they've made it, and now you're
right back at the beginning of everything.
Like time is a flat circle. I thought that was a really
inventive and like, brilliant way to kind of make the series
come full circle and end it there.
Like what a button for the wholefranchise.
And then, you know, it's not foralmost 15 years that we see a

(57:50):
new entry, like enough time has passed or it's like, OK, now we
can kind of pick things up like those first five films on their
own. What a way to kind of go out.
Yeah like again, like it's one of horror's greatest apology
letters. Like you said, as far as like
oh, sorry, we fucked up No, thisisn't the last one we're good.

(58:11):
We'll do another one really interesting and you know, cuz
the final destination, you know,people behind it like they, they
care about the the fans like they, you know, and, and I, I
very much appreciate that interesting.
I believe it like 4 is terrible of these.
Yeah, then they were just like, hey, we we know we're, we know
we're better than that here. Let's give it.
Let's give you guys something proper.

(58:32):
The interesting, the writer on this, Eric Heiser, very
interesting filmography. He wrote on the The Thing 2011
prequel as well as the 2010 Nightmare on Elm Street, but
also Lights Out, Bird Box and then Academy nominated for

(58:52):
Arrival. Very interesting filmographer,
this Eric Heiser. Yeah, overall, bit of a little
bit hit or miss there. I mean, I'm on the record.
The Elm St. remake is really theonly bad move in that whole
franchise. Some interesting ideas here or
there, but overall like I just Ijust don't truck with it.

(59:18):
All right my friend, you want todo think pretty obvious what our
number one overall set piece, almost unanimous 35 points 5.83.
I think you had this one a little lower.
You were the only one that didn't have it at #1 but why
don't you go ahead and introducethe top opening set piece?

(59:41):
No, I still had this one. I had this one at #1.
Someone didn't my. Yeah, yeah, somebody, yeah,
somebody was bold enough to put this on them too, but it
actually was not me. I have this at #1 the the
Highway to Hell sequence from Final Destination to again.
If there's anything that is mostly agreed upon in this
franchise, it is that this is the the best of the opening set

(01:00:05):
pieces. Again, because mainly because
this is like mostly practical, alot of this going on just as far
as mechanical mayhem goes in anykind of film, this is fantastic.
Once again, just like filled with really great individual
moments that are set up really well.
This is also a lengthier one as well, but obviously I think just

(01:00:29):
this one again, the, the contextand you know what the, the
impact it's had, you know, on just people in general, like
people, you know, like will you,I, I see people do it on the on
on the highway all the time. If somebody's behind a, a truck
full of logs, they will move outfrom behind that truck, you
know, like this is, you know, soingrained in the cultural

(01:00:52):
zeitgeist. But then now just the way that
people approach their everyday life, you know, this movie has
an impact on that. So like just for that alone, you
know, you know, kind of puts this a little bit a cut above
the rest. But then on top of that, it's
just a very, really well choreographed scene as far as
like stunts go and things like that, the explosions and

(01:01:13):
everything. Lots of just really, really
great moments. The fucking motorcycle, homie.
That stunt is crazy. I mean, there's some really just
a fantastic stunt work going on,so kudos to everyone involved in
it. That was the thing that jumps
out. Watching it now and there's been
more and more. I think it's next year, going to

(01:01:34):
be the first year that like stuntmen are recognized at the
Oscars. Like feel like I've heard that
is finally going to go through. Like, so it's not going to be on
this next ceremony, but the one after that I believe is when it
is finally a thing. Yes, way, way long overdue.
OK. There is just some incredible

(01:01:54):
practical effects work that is going on here.
And this is really where like the Rube Goldberg esque aspect
of these films come into play. Like the first film, you know,
the plane rips apart and it's a really horrific plane crash.
But this one, there are so many little pieces from like a piece

(01:02:17):
of like the weed going off and catching things, you know,
having the windshield catch a flame at that point.
So many little things have to gowrong.
The log going through the cops skull at that point in a great
in a great sequence. And to your point, yeah, if I
see a giant fucking truck with logs on the back of it, like I'm

(01:02:41):
moving over and I'm slowing downand I'm getting as far away from
it as I possibly can, I don't care.
And they know what they had withit 'cause they keep, you know,
in the new movie, they brought back little, little call outs to
it and the third act as well. So it's just like shows like,
oh, this is what we're really capable of.

(01:03:01):
And then to have like her friends get killed at the end of
it like that was unexpected. And like I mentioned to like the
fact that this this scene rates this movie a lot higher than I
think people should also is likethe strength of this, like it

(01:03:21):
was again, like this this one scene is really what kind of
puts this film pretty high up inpeople's rankings.
Yeah. Yeah, I was surprised to see the
second one ranked as low as it is overall.
I also like the dead that the kid running through the pigeons
and then getting smashed. Like, fuck that kid.
All right, we did it. We'll we'll, we'll be back into

(01:03:47):
this franchise in a couple of years.
I'd assume they I feel like we're definitely get another one
again. Go to the go.
Let's hit the seas, people. Let's get in the water for the
next Final Destination 7. Be a lot of fun.
I think that would be so fun. So who knows where we'll be
going. But but yeah, I love this

(01:04:08):
franchise. It's one of the greatest
premises to ever be came up within a horror in the horror genre
as far as this this century goesas well.
But like, yeah, this franchise again, why aren't we in the
double digits yet? You know, you can this this
franchise, the the formula is sodown and, you know, solid.

(01:04:32):
You know that the foundation of this franchise is so solid that
like, you can literally just do unlimited amounts.
So I hope so. OK with it taking its time, I'm
OK with having six right now andgive us another one in a couple
years. You know, I like the fact that
we're not churning these out. Oh, yeah, no, I, I do appreciate

(01:04:52):
that. Like that they made it.
They did say that they're like, hey, like these take some time,
like we're not gonna like try topush this out.
And I was like, hey, I appreciate that, guys.
Thanks. Thank you.
I think one of the producers like said like, look, this isn't
a Blum House movie where we can have like a very low budget and
small cast in a single location.Like, you know, we do have to

(01:05:12):
invest like a little bit of timeand energy and resources into
them. And like we said last time, like
they are all like minimum 3 1/2 times they make their budget
back. Like they all make crazy money.
You think about those first fouror five movies like in the
heyday of of physical media, like that's how I watched the

(01:05:33):
first movie was like buying the special edition disc on New Line
and having it packed with features and thinking about I
think you can buy like the firstfive movies for like 10 to 15
bucks on Blu-ray at this point. And they're all packed to the
gills. But you know, not only do they
make bank in theaters, but I betthey made double that just in

(01:05:54):
like home video sales to back inthe day for like the rewatch
factor alone. Oh yeah, then the new box set is
already getting out for pre-order because they are able
to just say yeah, kind of keep redoing that.
So yeah, physical media Kings dominates the box office.
A found destination. Again, very strong franchise.

(01:06:17):
Yeah, we'll be back with more. Well, Speaking of more, Devon,
what is going on with you in both of your shows right now?
Over on Spectre Cinema Club, celebrating Pride Month, we
covering the Psycho Series, which I know we're going to be
doing here on Pond Pendulum as well.
And so that's been that's been alot of fun.

(01:06:38):
I'm intrigued to see how everybody else appreciates the
sequels. And over on Tainted Love, we did
an episode on Tucker and Dale versus Evil as well as Ravenous
just dropped and we'll be doing a movie an episode on the the
part Chan Wook film thirst if you want to get ahead on that.

(01:07:02):
So at Spectre Cinema, new episodes every Tuesday, tainted
love new episodes every Wednesday at tainted love pod.
And you can find me at all places at Under Score,
Daddydisco on Letterbox, Blue Sky, and Instagram.
Yeah, we had the rare moment of agreement.
I was listening to your episode on Psycho and you're like, it's

(01:07:22):
good, it's good. And I'm a little bit stronger on
it. Like it's, I think it's an
excellent film. But to me, it's might.
It's probably not in Hitchcock'stop five.
No, definitely not. Like they ranked at #1 I'm like,
have you seen Rear Window and Vertigo And like North by

(01:07:43):
Northwest? Like we wouldn't have people
talking about like the influenceof Psycho.
I don't think we get like, JamesBond movies if it's not for
North by Northwest, which is so much fun and just like an
incredible, incredible, yeah. Psycho movie.
Solid movie it is. It truly is solid movie.
But he's done. He has much better.

(01:08:05):
Yeah, my spoiler hot take on Psycho is it kind of falls apart
after the shower scene. Like once that is done, there's
a lot of. Oh, the second-half is
significantly. Significantly at a downgrade
from the first. So that's my hot cycle.
Go go go watch Strangers on a Train, people.

(01:08:27):
That's my Hitchcock. That's, that's, that's my
Topper. I love that one.
So go go watch that instead. Of saboteur.
That's either saboteur or sabotage.
It's basically Hitchcock remaking his own 39 steps, but
for American audiences. And it's so much fucking fun.
Like, it is, if not my top Hitchcock, it's like my sneaky

(01:08:49):
top five pick that is like a lotof fun.
It's him redoing the 39 steps, which he remakes a lot of his
own work over the course of his career.
Yeah. I can also listen to my good
friend Rebecca, her Alfred Hitchcock podcast, which my
brain is not working right now. I should probably put the name

(01:09:12):
of it in the show. Anyway, you can find us
everywhere you get your podcast.As we mentioned earlier, you can
find me at Mike under score. Sorry, Mike's Noonian on Blue
Ski Pod and Pendulum over on Blue Sky.
Same thing for Instagram for both Mike Chump change for
instagramandpatreon.com/pod in the pendulum.

(01:09:35):
If you would like to be a financial contributor to the
show and get a ton of bonus content.
So I think we're going to have alittle break between this
episode and kicking off our nextfranchise.
We have a few episodes in the can right now, which is good for
us. That's rare that we are able to
do that. And we might do like a little

(01:09:57):
Patreon sampler for our next episode to entice people.
But after that, my friends, I proclaim this the Summer of
George, we are going to be doingall of the George Romero zombie
films. Night of the Living Dead, Dawn
of the Dead, Day of the Dead, Land of the Dead, Survive, Diary

(01:10:19):
of the Dead, Survival of the Dead.
Not since Star Wars have there been like 2 drastically
different takes or different levels of quality in franchise
Trilogy's my friend. So we are going to be doing all
the Romero films for the rest ofthe summer, as well as Tom
Zavini's 1990 remake of Night ofthe Living Dead and Zack

(01:10:42):
Snyder's 2004 Dawn of the Dead. So really excited to cover all
eight of these movies, but my Lord, it's going to be an
undertaking. Like the time for the light,
fluffy, easy to do, no notes episodes like going out the
window for the next month or so,aren't they?

(01:11:04):
Oh yeah, I mean, we were. Yeah, well, had had our fun time
in the woods, had a silly goose time just abandoning all
background research for the Wishmaster series.
So yeah, we're we're getting back on our academic shit, guys.
Yep. Should be a good time.
So we have all hands on deck forthose episodes, which is going

(01:11:25):
to be a lot of fun. I don't know if any of us are
huge zombie people, which is kind of going to be interesting.
We may get some flung headsets from listeners with some of our
takes, like I can imagine Devon will be spending some fire.
I might be doing some sacrilege.So we'll see how it goes as we

(01:11:48):
cover the Living Dead series. Devon, always a pleasure.
Alrighty guys, it's going to be,it's going to be hot.
It's going to be gross. And yeah, don't get big guys,
put some sunscreen on. It's about to get hot.
All right. Take care, everybody.
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