November 26, 2025 • 69 mins
The Podcast That Rocked for 11/26/25. Talking about the WMG/Suno settlement (and impending disaster with AI), Arch Enemy, Vitriol, and more.
- Warner/WMG has settled with SUNO over allowing AI usage
- Spotify is doubling down on AI usage
- Arch Enemy parts with Alissa White-Gluz
- Vitriol members quit and leave singer stranded in Vermont
- Warped Tour 2026 going international
- Foo Fighters called out for AI
- Guns N’ Roses plan a big return with new music and world tour
- Upcoming albums/tours/more
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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to the podcast That Rocks weekly podcast that talks about
news of the world of rockmetal, alternative, awful, AI and
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everything in between. My name is Luke, my name is Alex,
and my name is Rowan. There is an unfortunate theme today.
I don't know how else to break it down for you.
It's gonna get brutal, but it will affect every heavy music,
soft music, indie, death metal, everything you like, it's going
to be affected. Hope you're all doing well. I'm trying
(01:03):
to break this down as quickly as I can, so
we could jump into it because there's so much. If
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didn't suck suck sucks, but you'll love it anyway. All Right,
this is Sky that Week for music for music, yes,
for the music side of things. Yes, this is Sky
that week when it starts. So we have a lot
(01:48):
of stories to cover, some hilarious, some unfortunate, and then
we have this one which is regarding our main story.
I am going to share my screen with my friends
here while I'm doing that. Is there anything we need
to cover, like podcast wise before we jump right into
this because it is a big pool that we have
to dive into.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I don't think so either. Yeah, okay, here we go
share my screen every now and then we'll have a
week like this. We have to go to the business
side of things and it's not necessarily fun, but is important.
I don't know how we're going to advertise this week's
like ooh, check out our heavy music podcast and it's
the business side of things. But there's no way we
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cannot talk about it because this will affect everybody. For
the titular stuff that we're talking about right now, there
was a big fatty lawsuit going on class action between
Water Music WMG, which owns a lot of labels and
bands and artists, and Sono, which owned a lot of
rights and we're allowing their artists to be used for
(02:51):
remixing and AI usage and claiming artists and articles and
things like that. Well, as of this week, we found
out that lawsuit settled. Will you think, well, that's good right, No,
So before we get to the real discussion, I want
to make one big recommendation. What you see on screen
right now is top music attorney. Her name is Miss Crystal.
(03:11):
She's also a musician artist, but she is an irl
A lawyer. It s worts with copyright. She was one
of the ones helping this class action lawsuit again psudo
for artists, so that way AI could not take these
people's songs they had no control over like other people
using and making sure they get everything. Months she's been
in charge, like helping with this and flush down the toilet.
(03:33):
So she's got to start a new direction now. I
will link in the description of two videos, including one
live that she went today spending three hours talking about this.
She also made an appearance on the needle Drops channel,
Anthony and Fantando's main channel, discussing this nightmare. Yes, it's
that bad. So if you're wondering why you see a
picture of one Chris Martin of Coldplay. They're a WarnerMedia group,
(03:57):
they have band, they have big names what this lawsuit
essentially means. And I'm apologized for kind of like talking
over Alex and Rowan. I'm gonna go through this point
for point. Water Music Group has signed a licensing deal
with AI music generator Suno, resolving a copyright in frishment
lawsuit it filed against the startup last year. Suno has
(04:17):
been doing this for a while denying that AI was
stealing music and copyrights for their artists and other people's artists.
This settlement pretty much said Suno said, yeah, we did it,
but this settlement will absolve us going forward, when we
can do whatever we want now. So for everyone listening,
the face Alex is making is bitter discussed, and Rowan's.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Is yep, so gitter discussed.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, yeah, Oh it gets worse. It's so much worse.
If only that was the worst part. The agreement makes
Warner home to artists like Coleplay, Charlie, xcx D, Ed Sheeran,
the first major label to formally partner with Suno. Partnering
with Suno, this is the grubby, dirty businessman, hands shaking
under the table and going t he he while the
artists are gonna get screwed over long term. Under the deal,
(05:04):
Souno users, people that are signing up with Souno to
like AI, to make remixes, to make AI generative stuff
out of music, can now just sign up and using
text prompts like in a key command and command prompt
can include the voices, names, and likenesses of Warner artists
who choose to opt in. That's the big thing. A
lot of people that are already with Suno. They're done.
(05:29):
They can just go said, make Chris Martin sing the
Bad Touch by Bloodhound Gang with a more cogny antcent. Well,
that's my song now, because I made AI bake it.
Get it?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Helpe.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I hate this in every consumable way.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Oh just wait, buddy, I'm not close to done.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Oh great, there's more.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Okay, both of you. Please keep an eye on Chat.
Why I'm reading this because if they bring up any points,
feel free to stop me and read them because there's
so much. What are Ceo Robert Kinsel? I believe I'm
pronouncing that right. I don't care enough to pronounce his name,
because if he's part of this, I know he doesn't
deserve pronunciation. Frames the partnership as a model for artists
friendly AI, stressing that license use of music can go
(06:15):
protect rights and open new revenue and fan experience opportunities.
First of all, that last part is crap. That's just
a nice way to say you're including fans and all this.
Uh huh. Two, they wanted to make this deal so
that way. Anytime a Suno artist or a Warner Music
Group artist is used in AI generative remixing. We'll use
that storm of remixing for remixing samples and clips that
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it'll always be generative. It'll be tagged that way. The
artists can get their fair cuts. Now, if I'm using
a little tiny sample of a cold Play song, I
mean a second, one second, and I apply that to
my track, how much you think Coldplay is going to
get from that cut? And they have the bigger cuts
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of their music too. They're not some small band fractional.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I guess it's like Spotify.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yes, it's pretty much glorified Spotify. And we'll get to
Spotify to them because they're tied into a lot of
that's going forward as well, not in the same agreements,
but definitely in the same lay and adventure. As part
of the changes soon, we'll roll out new, more advanced
licensed AI models next year and phase out its current systems.
Uh huh. Downloading AI generated tracks, this is where it's
(07:24):
going to get really bonkers for a lot of things.
Going forward. Downloading AI generated tracks will become more restricted.
Only paying subscribers will be allowed to download the creations
through Souno, with extra charges and limits on the number
of downloads. So what that means. I can go to
SUNO's website or pseudo software Sodo program with all the
artists tied to it, remix stuff all day, but I
can only download if I pay for their subscription. Here's
(07:48):
the thing, and this is where Spotify is going to
come into that argument as well. Say I remix the
song myself and I'm paying for a Souno subscription. I
download it. I made that myself. No other DMCA takedown
or bots like on YouTube can claim it because it's
a new creation with Frankenstein to other parts of Coldplay
(08:11):
and Charlie XCX in a big mashup. Why just put
that on my own YouTube channel and monetize it? Why
can't I? And that'll just take YouTube's money. So that's
where it's at right now. The thing is, though, you're
taking two artists work jammicked together putting it online. I
(08:31):
didn't make the music, I programmed the AI to make
it for me, and now I'm going to make money
off it rose, So that's where that is. And I'm
not making This is by no way a knock on
DJs like streaming DJs on Twitch and stuff. They're actually
going in and mapping beats and making rhythms themselves. They're
doing the gritty work. This is different, way different. This
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is a text prompt going make these two songs into
one and make it sound good and upbeat, poppy. Enter
Wait a couple of seconds, there's my new music.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
So one goal of these new models and download rules
to the curb the flood of AI generated tracks from
Suno that have been overwhelming music streaming platforms, and that's
been a big problem over the past oh year. I
want to say one solid year. I'm not talking about
parody junk two like make SpongeBob sing Evanescence, bree Meat
a Life. I'm not talking about parody stuff like that,
(09:27):
you know. I'm talking about like real parody stuff. One
of the biggest ones last year people were stripping away
Emily from Lincoln Park's new parts, like the new songs
on the New Lincoln Park album and having ai Chester
sing them.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yep, yeah, I've seen those two. Those were those were
just creepy.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, it was. It was off putting, to say the least.
And they did the full album with that.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Major labels including Water, Universal and Sody, those three names
I'm not hitting own tens of thousands of licensed names,
artists and band that you are more than likely have
in your home right now, like so many big names.
Those three had previously sued Suno and Udio, another AI platform,
accusing them of using vast amounts of copyright of music
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without permission to train their AI models. That's what's nuts
to me and you and Warner just goes all, it's forgiven.
We'll make money together. Now what are you doing? No? So, yeah,
the lawsuits are still going against against Suno from Universal
and Sony. When Universal is looking like the good guy,
(10:36):
Holy crap, what have you done?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
That's just well if they're already in bed with Warner
a matter of.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Time, Warner and Universal they have work together before too, Sony, Sole, Sony,
you just hold out strength, buddy, going.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
To be like the the shady friend who just puts
their arm around Universe and be like, buddy, they're not
that bad. Trust me, you could trust me. I vouch
for them.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Seriously.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, tell you what, my friend, what the first month's free?
You want to try it? Free to Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
To make money? Doesn't it sound great? Just making a
crap ton of money. Guys, save your will cost yourself guys,
save your discussing your shady comments for a little bit later.
I promise it's gonna get work.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Don't worry. I've got plenty loud for you.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Oh you both have plenty of cringe to share later.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, it's like sorrow On in Sorrow mon true.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yes, thank you guys so much. Please hit the like button.
By the way, we're trying to get up there. Yeah,
I just saw cringe afs. It's like sorrow On in
Sorrow Moon. Yes, Lord of the Rings. References will always
be appreciated. Let me pull up chat this way and
let me see if I can do it this way.
Hopefully this won't mess it up. Got my note separate.
There we go. Okay, thank you guys so much. Please
ht the like button. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Actually no, wait, it's not sorrow in sorrowmon.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Uh. This is like Warner would be like uh Grima
worm tongue to King Theod who is like universal. It's
like it's like old share.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Two towers, everybody, my lord.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Yes as are as a side element of the deal,
Suno has acquired song Kick, the live music and concert
discovery platform, from Water for in undisclosed amounts so.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Pudo's being rewarded. So if you ever use songkick now,
it's going to be integrated with a whole lot of
AI going forward. So a lot of this is stemmed
from the UK and US we don't know, and Suno
has a lot in Canada. We don't know how this
will affect worldwide. Again, this is only for Warner, but
(12:41):
that is so many artists and bands, So why does
this affect everyone? For us? Why would this matter? Well,
now we get to the Spotify discussion. See Spotify knew
about all this. It looks like they were talking with
Warner and Sono. They were like the third party in
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the room, taking notes, waiting to jump at the right moment.
Spotify has been going through some changes and people have
noted about it. That's why so many bands and artists
have been jumping off Spotify. The terms of service are
now guaranteed going forward that you will allow your music
to be remixed on Spotify. So if you upload your
(13:26):
music to Spotify or your label does you were agreeting
that premium users can remix their music your music however
they want, and can download it if they pay for
the premium subscription.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Oh that's amazing because my band is are releasing an
EP early next year. That's that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Well ale and as Alex and I are going to
remix it into the glorious AI generated monstrosity.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Hey, I would.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Never I will buy you a CD from you ruin.
Unlike Luke over here.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I'll be the bad cop on this one. I'll be
the guy just to prove a point.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
So actually, what you can do is make like a
slow reverb version and then just start posting it over
and over on TikTok. We'll make it a SoundBite. It'll
blow up and maybe we'll just be like sleep token
or something. That's the goal right there. Yeah, that's where
the money is.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
This is from the BBC a couple of weeks ago
and the updated information, but this is the best article
to say what's going on and how it ties to
right now. The firm said it wanted to make AI
tools which put artists and songwriters first, meaning that would
say I, who have a premium I don't have premium Spotify.
Please don't take that out of context. I jumped off
Spotify over a here ago. If I to have a
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previous Spotify account, I want to remix a Metallica song
with an ACDC song, I could remix it on the
app download vote for myself. Well you're saying, well, you
can only listen through it to the Spotify player, then,
so what's the better. No, I don't have to. I
download it myself on a file, I play it through Spotify,
and then I use one of a thousand audio recorders
(14:59):
on my computer or phone to record what I'm playing,
and then I upload that and I'll make money off it.
No one else has it, so it's mine.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Like, seriously, this is just gonna be like you're just
gonna have like a completely unregulated market. I feel like
this is just gonna do not even just like not
even just want a creative standpoint or an artistic standpoint.
I feel like this is just gonna have like crazy
economic effects too.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I think so. And the people say, well that way,
like the Metallica ACDC example I just gave, Well, they'll
get their cut if you remix it and download it'll
be tracked. Yeah, for when I remix it and downloaded
that one time. But if I record it and upload
it somewhere else and there's no DMCA bot that has
that track, I could rake it in and the tal
(15:46):
poor Metallica and ACDC won't get a penny, and like
you're saying, see, yeah, they don't need money. The small
bands will sorry, go ahead, Alex.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
No, no, no, You're fine. It's all very valid. Everything
we're saying. This is completely uncharted territory when we have
of all of this AI. We've been talking about it
for years coming into the music world. Now it's here
and they're welcoming it. This is a wild, wild revelation
in this entire game. We have no idea what's going
(16:14):
to come from this, and I think it's going to
be horrible.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
It's going to be catastrophic going forward. I want to
make sure everyone's aware of this now. Both Miss Crystal
and other websites and platforms have already said this as well.
Spotify is going to be restructuring of their tiers. All
tears will be going up in price. So if you've
ever been looking for another reason to jump ship from
Spotify to another streaming platform, now do not wait. Black
(16:41):
Friday's coming. If you're in some of the major countries
in the world that do the Black Friday stuff, they
will have sales like a six month trial of title
or something like that. Do it now, That's all you
got to do. There's no other way to say this.
This is going to end up making Warner and Souno
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and whoever else will be involved in the future. They're
gonna keep making the same amounts of money. Spotify will
make more money, and the artists are gonna get less
than the zero point zero zero three sense per streme,
it's what it's less than that too. I don't remember
the exact fraction yet. No, it's gonna make.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Less to your point. Yeah, yeah, to your point.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Like they already get so little from someone just listening
to their actual song. What are they going to do
when it comes to like, oh, yeah, we used an
element of you in a in a song, but we're
gonna treat that as like its own, separate, creative like thing.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
See, this is gonna, I wonder it's got to. And
I cannot pretend, none of us can pretend to know
all of the legal ease and the ins and outs
and what this actual means.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
But I genuinely believe that this is going to devalue
just like any payout anyone guess really, because.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Like I absolutely agree with you, but I'm curious how
it's gonna work for sampling from here on out, because
tons of bands sample other bands already. We've had that
for years. Some of our favorite songs have little samples
from bands from the seventies and fifty. What's that going
to look like now under this weird new model.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
I know, Yeah, that's the weirdest thing.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
But to Luke's point earlier, at least when people do
sample or or like h or do like these mashups,
they're at least making an effort. They're like they're changing
the bpm, or they're just taking like specific like things
that match that match like time wise.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
You know, there I will see the agree in that
literally everything.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
And that's my worry is these AI artists not artists,
are gonna claim something, Oh no, I just sampled them.
When you talk, I just sampled it. That's what I'm
worried about.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
It's gonna be a coffee shop now, go ahead, go ahead,
Sorry I caught off.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Go ahead, No, yeah, sorry, sorry, I was gonna say.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I feel like this is gonna oversaturate the market because
now that like the barrier of entry is just gonna
be insanely low for anybody who wants to like make
some money for music. I mean, I mean again, at
least with a DJ or a sampler. You need some
skill with that. But now it's like, oh yeah, I
don't have a single music musical bone in my body,
but AI can just do whatever I want for me.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
That is correct. Yes, my joke was at your local
coffee shop. This instead of a guy with that acoustic
guitar trying to schmooz to women talking about beauty musician,
I'm an AI musician boop, and it just plays just.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Throw my hot coffee at.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
That guy, and that guy is gonna and that guy
could have a bajillion hits on Spotify and YouTube, a
bajillion and he's like, yeah, I made that.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Okay, do you guys know who glorb is the artist?
Have you guys heard of Glob? Uhh Okay.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
So this is gonna sound super stupid, and especially because
me and my friends are actually fans of him. Globe
is a musical artist who makes trap style songs with
SpongeBob characters and he uses AI to help with the voices.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
But the thing is, it's eause me though, right, It's
it's comedy.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Yeah, but it's like he still does all the lyrics,
all the music, those are all original, and he just
and he still sings. He just puts his vocals through
an AI filter just to help with the voice, just
so it sounds like, oh yeah, this is mister Krabs
or this is planked In or whoever else. You know,
there's still some artistic merit to it.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah, And like when I talk about twitch streamers, like
I've been following a DJF, here's knee beats whatever. She
does her own original creations that she'll put on YouTube
as well, like offline she attributes what bands and artists
she uses, all the different versions, shit they're renamed. You
could tell it's an original creation of her sitting down
and working out and mapping the beats together. She's not
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using an AI prompt on a window on her phone
and saying make this song three and a half minutes
now click, you know, And that's what's gonna happen going forward,
and no one could stop it. My and my argument
is not on the warners soda side. It's more on
the well I just downloaded once, record it on to
another recorder and then upload it and it's mine. How
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are they going to stop or track it. They can't.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
No, they can't. No, That's what I'm trying to make too.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
The point I'm trying to make is that, like I
feel like some people are going to try and defend
this where it's just like, oh, but people use mashups
or samples of other people's like songs all the time
for their remixes or whatever. How's is any different. It's
like when you do that like beforehand, you still need
some skill to do that, and there's still some actual
like uh, production involved. It's not just all, oh, yeah,
(21:33):
I'm just gonna tell a computer what I want.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Is just kinda spit it out for me.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
So yeah, that's where this is disgusting because it's not
this is not art. It's I said blah blah blah
blah blah, and I made it do the thing for me.
And I'm sure you have more points to make, Luke,
but one fun I might piggyback.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
There's yeah, they might piggyback. There's what other point I
wanted to make. A year from now, say November twenty six,
twenty twenty six, we hear artists come out all through
twenty twenty six brand new ones we're gonna have to
do the same thing that boomers do when they look
at images on Facebook. Is that real or AI? I
can't tell. We'll have to start doing that now for
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a lot of new artists and bands. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
No, it's like I'm gonna have to think we're I'm
gonna have to talk to my bandmates. We're gonna have
to find some way to validate to our fan base.
It's like, yeah, we're real, We're not. We're not a
bunch of AI generated images.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (22:26):
That's exactly what AI thought would say.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Oh, they're like seventies dudes.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yes, I do remember that too. And also someone chat
said it doesn't help that a music label side an
AI artist recently. Yep, I don't remember the label, but
I do remember that.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I have to tell you guys about what I learned today.
I was reading this crazy long article. The number one
song on the viral fifty chart global right now on
Spotify was an AI artist.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I believe I'm Charlie Kirk's song.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I wasn't gonna say that, but yes, that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah, and that sucks, but because but I do understand
because people are playing that to check out how awful
it is.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
It's well, I don't know, yeah, peoples, yes, memes.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Oh and I've been reading like up on this, so
this artist is what I was getting at, not the song.
So this artist, this AI generator guy, the song itself
AI generated. Of course, this artist has released two hundred
and eighty songs since December of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I believe it.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
This person just keeps This person just keeps spitting out
a bunch of AI crap. That's the kind of stuff
that we're going to see topping viral fifty global charts
on Spotify. That's so gross.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
And also why would Warder look at that and go,
whoa if we sign this our artist is it's he's
our artist then and we get a cut of that,
who cares if it's AI.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I think they're trying to like they're trying to market
to like the people who you start using like music
for memes or something, or just start marketing memes songs
in general.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Which again, and it's just like when you're trying to
like do all this just to find some way to
justify it or maybe just streamline it so you directly
make more money. It's like again, it's just like it
feels like the media industry as a whole is just
becoming more and more soulless, and that honestly sucks for
I think.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
All of us, Yes, honestly, And that's that's like the
plight of un regulated greed is what I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Call it, just to be that's a good term for it. Yes, well,
who's gonna help? The pseudo was the ones getting sued.
They're getting rewarded now in the sub yes, so oh.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Yeah, no, I'm not even just like talking like I'm
not even just talking music now someone else like mentioned earlier,
but like the Coca Cola fully AI ad, I'm seeing
like fully high ads like on in like TV.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Commercials when never talk about a later.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Yeah no, it's just like it's like, wow, you know,
not ten fifteen years ago someone with my degree gets
paid to make these commercials or work on these sets.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Now that's being completely taken over.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
So now it's like a where it's like I got
to educate myself on how to use AI just so
I can keep my freaking job.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yes it sucks, I freaking hate it.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Or learn to be a plumber like what else, Like
that's the thing that is making me so mad about
all of this AI crap. Obviously we're a little passionate
about the music industry, but as a whole, this AI
stuff that these companies keep pushing and keep forcing down
our throats and keep funding with god, we can't even
fathom amounts of money. They don't want to help us.
(25:32):
They don't want to help you write a new song.
They want to take over and monopolize this entire everything. Say, oh, okay,
we don't need you to do that. We're gonna keep
all that money. Oh we don't need you to do
that either. Art music, yank. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
It's gonna be like, oh, you got a great sound, kid,
we're gonna take your songs. We're gonna put it through
AI and then we can just start pumping out ourselves
and we can license it to it as our own
stuff and you can't do anything about it.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
That's right the way they want it. They're not even
gonna say they're not even gonna give the kids a
chance anymore. They're like, oh no, we already have that music.
We don't need to listen to these guys anymore. They
don't care about the people and those they don't care.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
And those end user license agreements, those contracts, those opt ins,
they're gonna get ten times longer and more involved with
all the legal ees you can imagine, just so you
can use these platforms like Spotify that you wanted to
listen to again, get off a platform like that, it's
only going to get worse. But for the artist's side,
I don't know what to tell you besides get off Spotify,
(26:27):
start working with band camp, and tell every single fan
you've ever had, this is what's going on. We have
to step forward and do something because the top top
Warner and while Universal and Sony are still suing that
we don't know what's going to happen. Warner just shook
hands and said, you know what, let's do it. Let's
(26:48):
make AI integration for everything. So how's everyone feel good?
Cheerry optimistic? Bright?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yeah, I am. So when you're feeling existential dread, are
you in the middle of an existential crisis?
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Rowan Well, I mean, like I just said.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
It could be ongoing for all of us, not even just.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Like musician, but like even film and television. That's what
I do, and it's been taken over by AI. Oh am,
I going to be out of a job. Do I
have to start putting prize in the bag?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
All right, yeah, we'll tell Yeah. They're already doing automation
for fast food places, so I can't do that.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Oh great, Oh god.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Automat You didn't see the taco bell in Vegas that
it's the fully automated thing, the drive through that's automated.
Oh yeah, it's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Good god.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
You didn't see the pizza joint at an airport that
makes the pizzas for Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Thosewo yeah they suck?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, okay, real quick?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Can a fallout style apocalypse happen?
Speaker 4 (27:54):
So I can just roam like grab my buddies together,
and I could just be banditing because that honestly sounds
like a better future.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yes, And that'll be caused by AI and it'll be
done wrong, like it will only like sing all our
eyebrows and that's it. So just like a really lame
cataclysmic bomb. That's it.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
So I don't know, y'all. Meteor twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I will say this for other countries. A lot of
people in America have been mission for that meteor for
a long time now, Guys, it's not gonna think.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
I'm not thinking met her. I want zombie a biocalypse.
If we have some world and like world ending event,
at least that will be fun.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Fun.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Yes, you're telling me you would have fun, just like
getting your buddy together.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
It's gonna be zombie. It's not gonna be zombie Land. Nope,
it will not be.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Brother. You don't get to choose. You could be like
in the middle of the blast.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
So yeah, exactly. So all right, we have other news
to talk about. Thank you for indulging us everyone. I
know that is not our typical fair for the stores
we talk about, but this was a big deal that
needs more attention. I urge you all if you're interested
in more The links in the description from top music
attorney Miss Crystal, who was in on the Suno lawsuits
(29:10):
and stuff. She broke it down today for three hours
on a live stream. She broke it out yesterday about
the Spotify shenanigans. She's the source. Definitely check it out.
I promise it's worth it. If you were already angry,
listen to us break it down. You'll be even more
angry but more informed by doing that. See, all right, Well,
(29:32):
who else is having a good week. Maybe not Arch Enemy.
They just had the bad news that Arch Enemy has
parted with Alyssa White Gloves after quite a few years.
Not their first singer Alyssa was, however, Alissa White glaz
made a post also saying she's going to drop her
new debut single The Room Where She Died, which means
this was probably a planned breakup going for a while.
(29:56):
Probably the statement that was from one Arch Enemy that
drops Archedime have parted ways with singer Alyssa white Clowes.
We thankful for that. We're thankful for the time and
music we shared to wish for all the best. Wherever
there is an end ending, there is also a beginning.
See you. In twenty twenty six, Alyssa followed up after
twelve years in Arch Enemy, we have parted ways. I'm
(30:16):
forever thankful to the thousands amazing fans I met along
the way. Thank you Beastlings. Can't wait to share what
I've been working on with you all with some very
big surprises in stores. Stay tuned for big news in
twenty twenty six. So at least seems somewhat amicable. We
don't know if there's any bad blood or how this
fell out. We know both of them have plans going forward.
Uh but yeah, no more blue hair in Arch Enemy.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
You don't know, we don't know what the future looks like.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
That's true. The next singer blue Hairy, What do I know?
That's right?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
You never know the d hair blue.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yes, I'm Alisa. Oh is Alicia? I'm Alicia, not Alyssa.
They just chose me by name, So.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah, I love it's alss A lookalike.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, we pay her less money.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Oh that would no, that would be horrible, horrible.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
I love Alisa White Glues. I was so I gotta
be super honest about this one. This one sucks because
she is so talented and I'm a huge fan of hers.
She was never like the arch Enemy. She was the
Arch Enemy vocalist. Like when I think of Arch Enemy,
my mind always harkens back to Angelica's how like she
will always be that defining Arch Enemy person for me,
(31:26):
whereas Elsa will always be the defining agonist front person
for me. That's what I always That's how I always
think of it. I'm super excited to see what she
does from here. Her first singles exciting, and I don't know,
I'm excited to see what arch Enemy does too.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I also think wherever there is an ending, there is
also a beginning. That is a statement. They would not
have just thrown that in there for just whatever, especially
when part's saying selected their lead that her and Alissa
are done. So that has to allude to something. I
don't know what that would be, but a lot of
people are what Angela back.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah, and she's spoken out, she's been She stepped into
like a manager role of the band. Like I said,
I was a huge Angela Archenemy fan, like that's my
pinnacle Archenemy. She stepped into like that managerial role. I
would be super curious to see if she was to
do anything. I don't see that happening.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Though, right So, yeah, people are saying I need to
listen to more of Archenemy with Angela. Alyssa was good,
but Angela was argentemy. So a lot of people were
echoing that statements as well. We'll see sooner than later.
This is not something because Archenemy has dates planned if
I'm correct, in twenty twenty six, and they have other
stuff too, And apparently Alyssa has her own music plan
as well, with a new single out, so there's definitely
(32:38):
stuff coming, so we'll see on both sides. It does
it again. It doesn't seem like it's too tumultuous of
a breakup. We don't know all the details, but it
doesn't seem like it's get off the bus and we're
abandoning you. Speaking of the band, Vitriol ditched their singer
and it kicked them off the bus and abandoned them.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
This has been in the yaes station in New York?
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Was it New York? Of her mom?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Was it in New York? I?
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Well, you know what we're gonna find out right here,
so so we yes, he's gonna knock on the door.
Hey my box. My band members left me. Man, I
heard your podcast was live. Can I put a message
on your podcast?
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:16):
I forget his name, but like he just shows up
behind me.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
So for those who are not aware, Vitriol front man
Caylirasmusen is speaking out after the other three members of
the band, not the original members. Other three manders currently
of Vitriol all posted on social media that they decided
to leave the band by abandoning him in a gas
station as they headed home mid tour. The story has
now expired from Keith Merrow's Instagram stories. All three members
(33:42):
have left Vitriol and said they will make their own band,
with a quote, gotta get this right myself, Andy Brett
and Matt will not take Kyle's cowardly and weak outbursts
of misplaced anger. We gave everything we had and now
we have now left you with nothing mass exodusts, this
was the darkest day of my music career to date.
(34:02):
That that's a little more tumultuous than the arch enemy situation.
This marks the second time in two years that Vitriol
have faced mid toward defecation defections. I almost said defications. Boy,
that's a terrible boy. You know what, I don't know
what's going on the bus whatever, that's notting Basis and
co vocalists Adam Roths Roethlisberger followed on early year departure
a bid based jeez, how who was it was? Alex
(34:24):
or Row which one of you looked it up? Said,
how many band members have been through Vitul?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
It was me yet in nineteen nineteen.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
That is puddle of mud levels with West Scantlin. Everybody
that is way is first.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
This worst of Pentagram, a band that has existed for
fifty years.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
It's like, well, yeah, when people pass on from natural causes, yeah,
of course they're gonna have to change them out.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
But I know, yeah, like nineteen and this band is
only like as far back as I know, this band
has only been releasing music since like twenty thirteen.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
So twelve years nineteen members in twelve years. My god.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
So the response has come from Kyle Rasmussen, who said
in post won yesterday one today at the video I
believe is still up on Instagram. From Kyle's response, I
don't have it pulled up here. It was important to
me to see how Keith, Brett and Andy decided to
handle this the following day. Unfortunately, they chose to double down,
and they are sharing information with people I care about
that simply it's just not true. Some it's an exaggeration.
(35:17):
Some of it's outright fallacious. I didn't threaten him physically,
I didn't touch him. He leaves, I try to go
back to sleep. At this stage, I'm not thinking that
the situation is that dire. But while he admits that
he blew a lid, admitting that he reacted angrily, we
don't know how many times this has happened. He didn't
think anything was significantly wrong until he told the other
band members were packing up their things. Rascus said he
(35:40):
was then confronted by other band members saying that he
couldn't talk to them like that, and he questioned Marrow
entering his private space and being hostile. The dispute went nuclear.
From the outside, if I saw this, I would have
to assume that this was just a pressure cooker of
animosity that exploded into extreme. It was an extreme action.
It was a drugged out temper tantrum. This is where
the drug accusations come man, some of those that popped
(36:01):
up as well, So this is where it gets dark.
The claim from the singer was that he was not
the only one abandoned. You know who else was abandoned
on the side of the road. Not a buppy wife
and doggo who are on the road with them, is
what they're saying. They didn't just by the way, using
(36:22):
vitriol warfare, using the Instagram. They didn't just leave me stranded.
They also abandoned Maggie and Ghost. Please do not contribute
without entertaining everyone's side of the story. So he's telling
everyone get all the points they have a gofund me
to get them back home to Oregon. They are either
in Vermont to New York. I don't know, which doesn't
matter at that point. So now I feel like everyone's
(36:43):
a jerk and a monster.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Why it sucks?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Go ahead, sir, no, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
I've heard their name in passing before. But then, like,
when I saw this story starting to blow up, I'd
decided to finally give their musical listen to you, and
I listened to their latest album It what sucks as
that I liked the album.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
So now I'm thinking, like, oh, it's always a pos.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
It's just like, oh, that's another band adding to the
list that is.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Correct, And we don't know, Like, we're aware that this
guy has had issues with previous band members enough to
almost fill a baseball team, but we now know that
the other band members might also have accusations against them
about drug use. We don't know anything yet. And now
the singer is claiming him, his wife and his dog
were a bandon, not just him. That's nuts.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
So dog did not ask for this man, Nope.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
No, the dog did not deserve that. You couldn't just
you couldn't just like take the dog with you or something.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
I just know, I just I don't know what's going
to come next to this. I know this is not
the end for the Vitriol shenanigans. I don't know how
else to describe it. But this has been a big
story of the last forty eight hours, just following what's
going on with Kyle Resmussen. People now know of Vitriol
as the guy that got left at a at a
(38:02):
bus stop or a gas station.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Three I was run through nineteen members.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
And once you get double ditchits, isn't it time to go?
Like maybe it's me?
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Yeah, No, that's like the thing he says to like,
you know, take get all the facts first, and like
we're still the story is still developing. But I mean,
like that's that's a bad sign. That's a bad sign.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
So you guys, you know how music pops into my head.
I have Taylor Swift in my head. Now I'm the problem.
It's me, that's Kyle, that's Kyle.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Now, Kyle's version, Kyle's version of thank you.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Brain appreciated.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Vitriol should do what I prevailed it and make a
Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Cover, and was that how he bounces back would be
pretty fitting.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Records and his wife records it On Instagram, his posted
live said, this is what I have to resort to
do to get some money back on GoFundMe you and
then it says the wrong song like shake it off
or something just gets it wrong?
Speaker 4 (38:59):
To be fair, how awesome would it be if we
had a death metal cover of a sailor's song.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Oh, I'm sure it exists. It has to. There's no
like even if we I don't know who done it,
who's done it? I'm confident it exists. I mean Corey
Taylor his performed Pig Pony Club. Okay, yeah, so you
know what. It totally is possible. Speaking of the impossible
being possible, guess who's back Axl Rose and Slash taking
(39:27):
Guns and Roses on a Big Fatty World tour in
twenty twenty six, with not one but two new songs
coming as soon as next week New Guns N' Roses
music in twenty twenty five. Boy, I did not see
this coming.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
I can't wait to never listen to this.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Oh I think for the podcast, you're gonna have to
be curious enough to want to listen at least one
of them.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
Okay, you're gonna have to do it. We're gonna have
to do it like clock or horn style or something.
You have to put me in a straight jacket or something.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
We had to listen to that sold ep from Motley
Crewe Weekend Stomach of Guns and Roses.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
You know what that is the low bar. So, man,
if it's as bad as the it cannot be as
bad as the canceled ep. I'm willing to bet that one.
I am not a betting man. That's a bet. Okay,
you're bearing garbage, the hot garb I am. I agree, No,
I agree. It's like when i'd have to take out
the kitty later that garbage. I agree. But oh man,
(40:26):
so the cake and tease nothing. The name of the
new song is nothing or nothing. Excuse me, it's called nothing.
Dave Duck Pagan mentioned guns and roases new song nothing
and there is, so I roll off tone. I'm not
gonna play the whole thing, sorry, because it's gonna get claims.
But yeah, Duff's talking about the new song nothing or nothing,
(40:47):
depending on how you want to say it. It's coming soon, real, real,
real soon. This is the first new music since a
few years ago when they had a like I Want
to say it was a new EP. Was that what
it was after? Not Chinese Democracy? Like it was like
hard school or something like, yeah, hard school, Yeah, I
forget the name.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yeah, it was a B side from Yes Appetite for
Destruction that they had never released exactly.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Well, apparently this is new new The two new songs,
Nothing and Atlas will be out December seconds, so you
know what, that's very soon. They called it rite in
time for next week's podcast, Rowan has a song of
the week next week. Let's see what he picks. Yes,
everyone has the same jock. It'll be nothing. Oh, lot
(41:36):
of nothing. Song's gonna be nothing. Yeah, I know, I know, guys,
at least save your jokes until you hear the song.
We don't know what to expect.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
It's like, it's like that, it's like a Seinfeld joke.
What's the song called?
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Nothing?
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Nothing? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Nothing? Yeah? Who's singing? No?
Speaker 3 (41:56):
One? Okay, Well, well.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
We shall see.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
We said part of a new this song might actually
stand a chance.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
They're also saying this stands as scandalone singles or could
be part of an EP or full album. There's no
real commitment as of now standalone singles. However, if they're
announcing this fatty World tour for next year. Again true
world tour. They're go in several continents, starting through Central America,
going to South America, then North America, then to Europe,
then back to the United States. It's all over. Sorry
(42:29):
Australian Africa. Guns n' Roses doesn't care about you. Sorry,
I don't know what's tellia. It says world tour and
it is a lot. But yeah, they're going from March
till September, a lot of dates, a lot. They're planning
on worka next year. Take it for what it's worth.
But next year Guns n' Roses returns a big everyone excited.
(42:52):
Oh my god, sound like you had your a little
kid that had to go to the dentist. Whoa I
get to pick a way out of the cabin after
getting cavities filled.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
I haven't been to s excited since tax season.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
The one you owed, Yeah, one where the irs came
like caught up.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah, exactly after you've been Oh that's way words.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Yeah, they have a ted benecky situation. If anyone gets
a reference.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
You saw them, that's okay. I already saw them live
nearly three years ago. Jeez. Yeah, crushing. And I saw
them in twenty nineteen. We didn't love it. We did
not love it, So I mean they just wrapped up there.
Because what you want and what you get are two
completely different things. Tour mm hm, and this tour is bigger.
It's significantly bigger. Looking at all the states are going
(43:44):
through or the countries are going through, it's much bigger.
So we're gonna see what's gonna happen with that, and
they might have new more new music to play on
those shows, Nothing Atlas and whatever else they can come
up with.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
Man, it feels like they have been They have been
gliding on Appetite since Appetite came out. I think I
think that that's just like something that like everyone kind
of knows at this point.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
I think it's because and that's why I think this
most recent run of tours has been so successful, because
they in twenty sixteen they launched their Not in This
Lifetime tour and that stretched for three years, and that
was the first time the original lineup was back. I've
gotten back together well, I mean most over half over
half over half yeah, missing easy but still.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah, but even I counted that too. Is like that
is a true return. I counted that as well. So
now ten years later, Big Fatty Tour with there are
new songs, I would not discredit that. So we'll hope.
I'll give a listen. I will listen on Tuesday when
it drops, because our curiosity has already gotten me, not
(44:51):
like Motley Crue. Motley Crue I went was like, oh,
what are they going to do now? This is like,
all right, let's see what you got more out of
curious as opposed to dread. Does that make sense? Yes,
that's yeah. So by the way, this picture that Loudwire
shows Slash at least in mid guitar at least looks
like he's aged appropriately. That is not even the same
(45:13):
human being Axel Rose as he was appetite for destruction.
Looks like a totally different person.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah, that happens.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Life happened a lot to that.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
You're comparing a twenty year old to a sixty year old.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Well, life happens hard sometimes.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
Yeah, life happened a lot harder for that twenty year
old to sixty year old, a lot harder. Lots. So
move on talking about international stuff like world tours, warped tours,
going international, We talked about it a couple of weeks ago,
like with warp toward Orlando, how it did go mostly
well and like they did put in a lot of effort.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
Well.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Next year they're adding two dates and that's Canada and Mexico.
If it ellade there we go. I think this is
an appropriate way to venture and make it bigger because
they're only doing one Warped tour a month and they're
all separated out by significant spaces. Washington, DC, June, Long Beach,
(46:09):
California July, Montreal in August, Mexico City in September, Orlando,
Florida November. That's enough space. I think they I can
learn and from what happened this year and figure out
how to make things bigger and make people happy and
get the appropriate lineups for all five different cities and
(46:30):
possibly give as Alexandria break if they book them again,
that's a problem. That's just trolling at that point.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
So anything expectations keep them low.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Yeah, yeah, any thoughts on the Warped Tour updates.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
I'll see.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
Like I think I said this last week, I feel
like once they the more they the more.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
They do this, they'll better.
Speaker 4 (46:54):
They'll be able to like plan better like future shows,
because I mean, like practice space perfect, I feel like
a festival kind of goes say way again, just like
you know, maybe just don't bring back asking you Alexandrew
because I was kind of a dumpster fire.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Yeah, I think they can also learn from what they
did wrong to improve on it, and I think expanding
it to other cities and more worldwide is a very
smart move.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Yeah, question for you, Alex, Is Shoreline Waterfront the same
venue as last year? Yes? Okay, so it's going to
be the same parking walk forty minutes from your car
to get to the venue and that's why people left
early because they were so fed up. Okay, so didn't
learn too much from that, but maybe the other ones
they did. Maybe so because Orlando's the same, DC's the same,
and then obviously Montreal. Mexico City will be big. Someone
(47:40):
just said the chat that Mexico City one's going to
be sold out and crazy.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Yeah, dude, remember the guy we talked to in Chicago,
like he and his friends were always so stoked to
hit these really big, fun rock festivals in Mexico.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
This is going to be like that amplified because like
in Mexico City. Apparently there's no curfew cut off for concerts,
like you don't have to be done by eleven or
twelve even for festivals, so it goes to two or
three am, doesn't matter. Party a warp tour party in September.
Who hopefully again, if the lineup's good, I would go
because they did a lot of things right. They did
(48:15):
things I didn't love, but again, they did a lot
of things right, and they're trying.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
May get efforts.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
And you and I talked about that as well, because
I was graping not on air about I had such
high expectations for this lineup, and I'm like, well, I
know better than to keep my expectations too high. Yeah,
And I hope they learned from that, because you did not.
In my personal opinion, they did not come out of
the gate swing in for their big thirtieth anniversary. So
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if that was just like, I.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Agree, and now I said the same thing, not for either,
not for all three. Yep, they need one big if
one big solid headliner for each of these five dates.
It would work out. Rowan will send you up to
Canada get your passport or in French.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
I'm only like four hours away for the border.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
I'm gonna say, you're the closest to Canada. DC is
close to me.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
I've made the candidates too. It's not well there, it
wasn't bad.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
Yeah, I actually know it.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
My singer lives in Canada. I can visit him.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Ooh there. Yeah, well now you can get all that.
We got to get you on that small stage too,
like that the local stage.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
Yeah, whatever it's it's not Ernie Ball anymore, but whatever
it is.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
Whatever it's sponsored.
Speaker 4 (49:25):
Yeah, we'll be like President will be like our first
our debut show will just happen to be a major festival.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Well, I mean they're coming in the States next year anyway,
so I can with bad omens. I can totally see
them doing some of these dates as well. President at work.
President is not coming. President's coming earlier than that. They
have a show playing like.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
The nex Co month.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
They'll come back in my city. They'll totally come back
for Warped tour. They don't care. Huh. Get your speculation
in now for who's gonna play Warped toward twenty twenty six.
It could be wildly different for each lineup. I kind
of hope it's a little different for each one, but
I again, one solid headliner for each would seal the deal,
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not machine gun Kelly twice and expecting that to make
everyone happy. Okay, sorry, that's bonkers. So finally we end
with some good news before we get to our regular stuff.
It's important to celebrate good news here on the Podcast
That Rocks. Not only did Jay Weinberg release an awesome
new single, his first single with featuring George Clark of
(50:26):
Death Heaven It's awesome. Well, now he's making his own
band with his wife. That has made the announcement today
expecting a little Jay Weinberg baby with his wife. I
think this is awesome. They made the announcement sweet little
post on Instagram. They've been married for a while. I
truly feel Jay's doing a thousand times better now he's happy,
(50:47):
he is single. It's great. The one he made with
George Clark, it's called Sandstone. Check that out. And looks
like we'll have another drummer in the world coming soon
because he comes from a long pedigree of drummers successful drummers.
Drummer for Bruce Springsteen and played at the Super Bowl
and played for Conan for gears, Jay slip Knot now
doing his own thing with suicidal tendencies as well. What's
(51:09):
this third? Little wine Wineberg gonna.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
Be a lawyer?
Speaker 4 (51:16):
I was gonna say, I was gonna say an actor rebellion.
He plays a different instrument, like he's guitar bassed or something.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
I'm thinking he's going even further. He's gonna be like,
you know what, Dad, I want to be a doctor.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
No, my son, It's like I have no exactly are.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
You playing with a stethoscope? Put that down and pick
up the drum sticks?
Speaker 3 (51:38):
You want to cure cancer? How dare you?
Speaker 1 (51:45):
Again? Congratulations to the line bags. We now go to
our regularly scheduled shenanigans that we usually to. I'm just
gonna leave the nice little post up right here because
that's wholesome. I can't even see it all the way
because obs and Instagram are fighting each other, but you
know what, wholesomeness sometimes we need. We're not going to
(52:05):
talk about, however, our regular information. We got some upcoming
tours and albums that did get announced, a few of
them because this is holiday weekend here in the United States.
The tumultuous one where fist fights break out over a Turkey. However,
some news, any upcoming tours that got announced.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Alex, Yeah, hang on, you guys are glitching a little bit, glitching.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
Okay, Alex will go backwards, Rowan, Are you ready for albums?
I am wait, No, I'm ready, Okay, roll okay, Alex, Okay,
there we go.
Speaker 2 (52:37):
Hey, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't all skippy.
I thought I think it was.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
It was it was a discord issue. Yeah, it was
a discosd perfect.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
Okay, as long as it's not my connection, yes, Okay.
Megadeth have announced a Canadian tour, so that's going to
be some fun for Canadia.
Speaker 4 (52:53):
Rowan's going to go check down out for US lausible
than in the Moon, so good for them.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
Yeah, it's a lot easier to get to. Also, they
have a good lineup with them, if I'm correct to
support they have a good support act.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
Yeah, we've got Anthrax and Exodus. Oh yeah, that'll be
super rad.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
That's an appropriate thrashy tour, So you know what, Canada,
that's a good start for you guys next year.
Speaker 3 (53:18):
That if there's like one right by the border.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
Yeah, well, and then later in the year, Mega Death
is going to be joining Iron Maiden again. We talked
about that a bit and a lot of Anthrax with
Iron Maidens. So Megadeth go check it out. In Canada.
We've got Guns N' Roses. We already talked about that,
Google Dolls. The Google Dolls are going to be playing
a little bit the end of this year and next year.
Then we've got Sepultura just they just announced their final
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European show featuring Biohazard, Malevolence, Sacred Reich and Crypta.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
Interesting but it can work. It'll totally work.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
Well, it's it's a crazy sendoff for Europe, so that'll
be super rad. Howeling Giant and Insomniac announced a North
American tour. Machine Head just announ an evening with styled
European tour, which would also be kind of fun.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
Yeah, that's it telling.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
Very nice Rowan. How about albums coming out this Black Friday,
November twenty eighth.
Speaker 4 (54:14):
It's a decent lineup, especially if you're a big black
metal fan, because there's actually a few bands in the
genre that are releasing. First of all, we have thirteen
forty nine coming out with Winter Mass. We got I
am sorry if I'm sorry in advance if I mispronounced
this name blood ou snored with Ethereal Horizons. We have
death metal band Equilibrium, Oh no, sorry no, German folk
(54:37):
metal band Equilibrium releasing Equinox through Nuclear Blasts. And then finally,
this is kind of a cool one, we have Molific
Throne with the Conquering Darkness. This is the debut album
of a death metal group that are featuring members from
Oh my God, Morbid Angel. Yeah, Morbid Angel members are
in this band. And again no, it's it's like a
(54:59):
death metal superheros.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
Black Friday is right, sweet Mercy, this is the darkest
Friday we've had ever? Whoof so I do even think
of that? That's cool, very good stuff. It is Alex's
turn for Song of the Week. Alex I also shows
this one for heaviest metal Picks this week, So you
picked a good one. Would you like to talk about
the song of the week this week?
Speaker 2 (55:19):
Sure? I am super impressed with what Sue Marian's putting
out right now, and this is definitely one of those
the artist. I kind of did a little bit of
digging into some of the other stuff she's done, and
she's fun. She's kind of kooky. She's done a couple
of like interviews here and there where she's like, oh yeah,
I'm pop metal, which kind of fits the theme of
(55:39):
what's gaining a lot of traction these days in this
music vein. But Banna Vanna, I think it's Vanna Pray
is the first official release from Vanna on Suemerian Records,
and I really like the groove. I like the way
it sounds, and I'm excited to see what she puts
out from here that.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
This she can get quite loud. That still shot of
her right now on screen, Yeah, that's appropriate one for
the music videos too. So Vanna Pray from New Zealand.
I wonder if she uses all the New Zengland linguo,
like just funny words for everything. So we'll have to
find out if we ever get to interviewer. That being said,
we do have two super chats. If you have any
of the superchats, everybody, just let us know. It's still
(56:19):
not too late to get them in from Ellie Yeat.
Considering that tonight is also the world premiere of the
first half of the fifth and final season of Stranger Things,
here's a prediction Vecta is defeated by the music of
Ozzy Osbourne. Uh because Metallica in the last season too, gotcha.
See I did not. I have not kept up with
all Stranger things. I only watched the first two seasons
(56:40):
and that's it.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
Well now they're forty five, so oh.
Speaker 4 (56:43):
Okay, Yeah, there's the girl played eleven is not is
a mother now actually that's actually true.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
Yeah, she's twenty one in IRL so.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
Yeah, and John Bonjobi's son had a baby. Well they
adopted a baby girl.
Speaker 1 (56:57):
Oh see, that's that's adopted.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
Adopt her.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
That's fun.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
They adopted her.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
See. That's a great story though. And I really do
agree with all the media stuff's like, maybe leave this
woman alone. She's been hounded since she's been eleven literally said,
maybe just leave her alone and let her have a life.
So I can never remember her name, Haley Bobby Brown?
Is that it Millie Bobby Brown?
Speaker 2 (57:22):
Yeah, Millie Bobby Brown. And then John bon Jovi son.
Speaker 1 (57:26):
Yeah, Haley Bobby Brown. Yeah, there you go, hyphenate the
name off.
Speaker 3 (57:31):
They get the kid.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
Yes, also from Elie. Also time for some PTSD. My
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Very much appreciated. You do that during these streams. It
helps push the out. So thank you guys so much
for hanging out with us. Let me refresh because we
do have at least one festival to book. Please hit
the like button if you have it already. It does
help out a ton. We still have more likes, so
we may not get our current one because I knew
it's like it's a holiday weekend. People are traveling right now.
(58:16):
I knew that was going to happen. But if you
get your likes in and you're watching it, we can
get one more rest festival rounded help out Alex and Rowan.
Are you ready to book a festival for Ellie yeats? Yep, yes,
I am very nice. Every week when we get certain
super chants or hit a light goal, we book a
random festival. Sometimes it's great, sometimes it's terrible. Last week
(58:37):
was interesting. Is that a good way to say it.
It wasn't the worst, but it was. It was interesting
to say the least. So well, you guys hit the
like button, please do so, I'm gonna pull this up.
Make sure you guys know I'm not cheating rock. There
we go. I'm really hoping for el Ee because sometimes
el Ee Eat is one of our most faithful super chatters.
(58:59):
But all so, sometimes you get screwed over. So we're
really hope that one time. Yes he did, he got
the worst one in the history of the show. Yes
he did. That is that is very true. So go
right here, right here, all right, yeat Fest band number one,
you got a Migo the Devil. You're getting some dark
folk music that Actually that is a pretty cool opener,
(59:21):
to be fair, that's a good solid opener.
Speaker 2 (59:23):
So he's so fun.
Speaker 1 (59:24):
Yes, Number two within Temptation, nothing like Amego the Devil,
but a lot of fun symphonic metal.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 3 (59:34):
I like the vibe.
Speaker 1 (59:35):
Number three Rancid. I think we had those last week.
We did, Yes we did. So we're gonna move on
from Rancid. Number three bowling for soup. The vibe of
yeat Fest is interesting. But you know what, I don't
hate it. It's really not bad. And number four sex Squatch.
Speaker 4 (59:59):
This is this is such a weird lineup. There's no
big big names, but this is.
Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
So we'll have within Temptation a headline.
Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
For some reason, sas sas Squatch ties it together for me,
like I think this is fun. I'll totally go.
Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
I don't know, guys, it's a blast.
Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
You have so much Sasquatch doing something with bowling for.
Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Soup exactly right, and like he does the slow mosh
pit or the slow circle pits, like people just kind
of groove around and dance and do that. That's what
they did what I saw him live. It's pretty fun
because like we got a Migo the Devil, sex Squatch
bowling for soup. That's a lot of cheeky, fun good
times right there. And then with them Temptation to burn
it all down, So you know what, I'm happy with it.
Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
I like to think that he'll just randomly play the
Sax solo from Emergence.
Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Yeah. Oh, they have to ring Sax Squatch on that
stage with Sharon Denadell. They have to. There's no way
they wouldn't, right, and heck bring up Ego up there too.
You can play banjo for one of the songs. Who
cares he plays guitar. Also, it's fine for.
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Some reason, Amigo and within Tienation work for me. They're
both like that spooky dark just kind of different instruments,
and I like.
Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Guess, yeah, so you know what, And then Bowling for
Suit could just do fart jokes in the background. Yes,
that actually is appropriate for falling Pursuit.
Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
This is like the equivalent.
Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
This, this whole lineup is like the equivalent of getting
your buds together to watch a bad movie. But you
all know it's a bad movie, so you just get
like really drunk and just have fun with it.
Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Yeah, you know what, that's actually not a bad way
to put it. But you know something really cool is
gonna happen, like with the Temptation too, Like there's like
that one serious part yeah that everyone loves. So you
know what, not bad you fest appropriate for a holiday weekend.
So that being said, thank you guys so much for
tuning to us on this holiday week We knew about.
We know people were going to chew it in as much,
(01:01:45):
especially with the crazy stuff going on. Thank you for
sticking with us. We'll be back to our regular Senanigu's
next week also in December. Things to look forward to.
We will have our podcast whatever week it is when
we talk about the best and worst of twenty twenty five.
There's a lot, so it'll be nuts when we decide
to do that. We'll be talking about also getting our
(01:02:05):
list together, our favorite albums and songs of the year.
We'll do all the sun stuff on this channel. I'll
see if Alex and Rowan are also a part of
like just making their own list, because I want them
to get some attention to like at least it doesn't
have to be a countdown, but just like, get together
what your thoughts are because I want you guys give
your thoughts and opinions too on the podcast. So that
being said, I guess I could take it off. Sax
Watch by Sasquatch. Thank you for coming. I hope you
(01:02:28):
find your dad. There we go from It's from Elf.
There we go, Bye, buddy, hope you find dad. So
that being said, Alex, you have anything you would like to.
Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Add if you've not checked out the Pretty Wilds album
that dropped last Friday. It is super fun. I really
like it. Zero Point Genesis very good recommendation.
Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
It is fun too, like it's appropriate angry new metal fun,
like the good stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Yes, So like there, it's hard for me to get
like super excited about new albums. In this one, not
super excited, but I enjoyed every song, which is that's good.
I would definitely check it out.
Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Gotcha Rowan? How about you?
Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
Uh yeah, just because some people are pointing out so, no,
I'm not in another interrogation room. I don't know when
you would see like an interrogation room with pall hoops. Yeah,
I'm in my parents I'm in a den at my
parents place. But really this is where my brother practically lives.
That's where he sleeps. Not even choking. I started moving
(01:03:32):
into my new apartment today and just with the timing
with Thanksgiving, that's just been a little bit hectic. Really
still waiting on some stuff to actually get delivered there.
So I'm just out of my parents place. That's why
I'm on my laptop with this really crappy built in
camera and no. Yeah, like hopefully by next week I'll
be a much more like situated place.
Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
Really just been really hectics.
Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
But hey, if anyone lives near the Lower East Side
and would love to help me move, I'll buy you
beer and we.
Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Can listen to my no afterwards. That's an open invitation.
Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
It's a pretty sweet deal. Guys should check that out. Also,
if just reminder, thank you Heavy for sponsoring this podcast.
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all the smaller stuff too. Everything, So this is the
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think about all the waters souno garbage because it's a lot. Alex,
last week's joke, what do you have this teme?
Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Remember it?
Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
So there you go. I got I spoiled it for
you because I knew what it was.
Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Oh, you ruined my spam joke. That's right.
Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Yeah, I ruined it.
Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Yeah, you have ruined it.
Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
Two weeks ago, no way, three weeks ago we had
the ultimate, we ultimate.
Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
Chat after a joke.
Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
So good, So yeah, my screwdriver, Steve.
Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
All right, Steve, Steve's in the chat. If you're ready,
it's time for another joke.
Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
We still got to make a hot mustard cocktail.
Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Oh gross, Why I forgot about that?
Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
Let me what was it?
Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
In peace?
Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
What was the name? That wasn't the name of it?
I know what you're talking about. Tropical tropical mustard, tropical monster,
Steve's tropical monster, half corpse lights served warm in Florida.
Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
Yeah, See, guys, this is what you do.
Speaker 4 (01:05:42):
You say, half a can of monster, half a cores,
pour that in then just leave it out in the
sun for six hours.
Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
You act like that happened in Florida. Did you act
like that has not happened before?
Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Honestly, it happens at a lot of Yeah, I say, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
It probably has. So it out. This is Alex because
because of.
Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Where we are in the US, we've obviously got Thanksgiving tomorrow.
Turkey is a big deal. And I used to be
addicted to Thanksgiving leftovers. But I finally quit cold turkey
yet enemy.
Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
Okay, that's that's worthy of. Like, that's not a full clap,
that's like a golf clap. Hangout there we go.
Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
So I think that was a nice, little peaceful joke
after our angry AI discussion. I think that's very fair.
Oh someone got a big lull nope, smiley face x
C D d D. Dang, it's someone's throwing actual turkeys
at you. Someone's throwing saxophones at.
Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
Actually wait, do you guys actually want to hear a
funny turkey story for no?
Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
Go for it?
Speaker 4 (01:07:02):
Uh turns out my dad told me this three days ago.
But uh, he was this is like when I was
like a really little kid. He was running along the
riverside one day and on the like on the road
was a turkey, like a big turkey corn to him,
and he was just trying to like show it away,
and it wasn't like looking at him. It was like
looking off into the horizon. So he picked up he
(01:07:24):
picked up a rock, threw it at the turkey to
hopefully scare it away. The turkey looks at the rock,
looks up my dad and then pivots its whole body
towards my dad, and my dad was like, Okay, I'm
not gonna mess with this turkey. He just runs in
the direction. So a turkey just sized up my dad
(01:07:45):
and scared him off.
Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
And that's how your dad learned you cannot win a
fight with a turkey.
Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
You should go pick and fights with turkey's in the
first place.
Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
I just love it the way he described it.
Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
It's like, you know, the turkey, this turkey looks at
the rocks side step and then you hear like boss
fight music.
Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
A little how far at the.
Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Bottom sounds like some wives tale Like this is why
you never pick a fight with a turkey, like one.
Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
Of those rock Yeah, imagine like having a dark soul
style fight with a turkey style.
Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Yeah. Someone, Well, someone's giving hearts. That's very kind. See
that's the appropriate kind of satisfaction we need on the
podcast That Rocked. Also, thank you guys so much. Steve's
we will see you next week. December is coming, lists
are coming, end of year shenanigans are coming, and hopefully
the AI apocalypse holds off until the end of the year.
(01:08:41):
Thank you everyone, I.
Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Mean, happy Thanksgiving everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
I mean thank happy Thanksgiving, Be thankful for what you got, everybody. Bye,
bye God, Say what you're thankful about while you still
have it, because it's gotta leave soon and be replaced
by Ai.
Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
Your dad lost turn he war, We lost the EMU war.
What the hell does that mean?
Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
What?
Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
What the hell is the emo?
Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
He's in Australia. No, no, he's Australia. That was anct
whole thing. Yeah yeah, yeah, it makes sense.
Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
Well no, I wouldn't, I mean even been no matter what,
getting near an emu.
Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
But that thing is like, that thing's bigger than me. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
For Thanksgiving we seat Friday emu.
Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
Have you ever seen like an emu? Orna is like
the size of a basketball.
Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Yeah, they're huge. Yeah yeah, geez, there we go. He
be serious. It's Los Angeles emos that Alex runs into.
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to the podcast That Rocks weekly podcast that talks about
news of the world of rockmetal, alternative, awful, AI and
(00:43):
everything in between. My name is Luke, my name is Alex,
and my name is Rowan. There is an unfortunate theme today.
I don't know how else to break it down for you.
It's gonna get brutal, but it will affect every heavy music,
soft music, indie, death metal, everything you like, it's going
to be affected. Hope you're all doing well. I'm trying
(01:03):
to break this down as quickly as I can, so
we could jump into it because there's so much. If
we have fifty likes for all the Steves in the chat,
we'll have at least one round of festival rocker Flop.
If you give a super chat of ten dollars a more,
you'll get your own permanent festival today. We already have
one of those super chests. Thank you, Ellie Yeats. We'll
get to all super chests today. And also thank you
so much for renewing your channel memberships. If you renew
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(01:25):
the Past video. It's available right now. It's a big
mess of a video. I hope you love it. I
didn't suck suck sucks, but you'll love it anyway. All Right,
this is Sky that Week for music for music, yes,
for the music side of things. Yes, this is Sky
that week when it starts. So we have a lot
(01:48):
of stories to cover, some hilarious, some unfortunate, and then
we have this one which is regarding our main story.
I am going to share my screen with my friends
here while I'm doing that. Is there anything we need
to cover, like podcast wise before we jump right into
this because it is a big pool that we have
to dive into.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I don't think so either. Yeah, okay, here we go
share my screen every now and then we'll have a
week like this. We have to go to the business
side of things and it's not necessarily fun, but is important.
I don't know how we're going to advertise this week's
like ooh, check out our heavy music podcast and it's
the business side of things. But there's no way we
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cannot talk about it because this will affect everybody. For
the titular stuff that we're talking about right now, there
was a big fatty lawsuit going on class action between
Water Music WMG, which owns a lot of labels and
bands and artists, and Sono, which owned a lot of
rights and we're allowing their artists to be used for
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remixing and AI usage and claiming artists and articles and
things like that. Well, as of this week, we found
out that lawsuit settled. Will you think, well, that's good right, No,
So before we get to the real discussion, I want
to make one big recommendation. What you see on screen
right now is top music attorney. Her name is Miss Crystal.
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She's also a musician artist, but she is an irl
A lawyer. It s worts with copyright. She was one
of the ones helping this class action lawsuit again psudo
for artists, so that way AI could not take these
people's songs they had no control over like other people
using and making sure they get everything. Months she's been
in charge, like helping with this and flush down the toilet.
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So she's got to start a new direction now. I
will link in the description of two videos, including one
live that she went today spending three hours talking about this.
She also made an appearance on the needle Drops channel,
Anthony and Fantando's main channel, discussing this nightmare. Yes, it's
that bad. So if you're wondering why you see a
picture of one Chris Martin of Coldplay. They're a WarnerMedia group,
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they have band, they have big names what this lawsuit
essentially means. And I'm apologized for kind of like talking
over Alex and Rowan. I'm gonna go through this point
for point. Water Music Group has signed a licensing deal
with AI music generator Suno, resolving a copyright in frishment
lawsuit it filed against the startup last year. Suno has
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been doing this for a while denying that AI was
stealing music and copyrights for their artists and other people's artists.
This settlement pretty much said Suno said, yeah, we did it,
but this settlement will absolve us going forward, when we
can do whatever we want now. So for everyone listening,
the face Alex is making is bitter discussed, and Rowan's.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Is yep, so gitter discussed.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, yeah, Oh it gets worse. It's so much worse.
If only that was the worst part. The agreement makes
Warner home to artists like Coleplay, Charlie, xcx D, Ed Sheeran,
the first major label to formally partner with Suno. Partnering
with Suno, this is the grubby, dirty businessman, hands shaking
under the table and going t he he while the
artists are gonna get screwed over long term. Under the deal,
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Souno users, people that are signing up with Souno to
like AI, to make remixes, to make AI generative stuff
out of music, can now just sign up and using
text prompts like in a key command and command prompt
can include the voices, names, and likenesses of Warner artists
who choose to opt in. That's the big thing. A
lot of people that are already with Suno. They're done.
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They can just go said, make Chris Martin sing the
Bad Touch by Bloodhound Gang with a more cogny antcent. Well,
that's my song now, because I made AI bake it.
Get it?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Helpe.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I hate this in every consumable way.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Oh just wait, buddy, I'm not close to done.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Oh great, there's more.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Okay, both of you. Please keep an eye on Chat.
Why I'm reading this because if they bring up any points,
feel free to stop me and read them because there's
so much. What are Ceo Robert Kinsel? I believe I'm
pronouncing that right. I don't care enough to pronounce his name,
because if he's part of this, I know he doesn't
deserve pronunciation. Frames the partnership as a model for artists
friendly AI, stressing that license use of music can go
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protect rights and open new revenue and fan experience opportunities.
First of all, that last part is crap. That's just
a nice way to say you're including fans and all this.
Uh huh. Two, they wanted to make this deal so
that way. Anytime a Suno artist or a Warner Music
Group artist is used in AI generative remixing. We'll use
that storm of remixing for remixing samples and clips that
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it'll always be generative. It'll be tagged that way. The
artists can get their fair cuts. Now, if I'm using
a little tiny sample of a cold Play song, I
mean a second, one second, and I apply that to
my track, how much you think Coldplay is going to
get from that cut? And they have the bigger cuts
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of their music too. They're not some small band fractional.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I guess it's like Spotify.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yes, it's pretty much glorified Spotify. And we'll get to
Spotify to them because they're tied into a lot of
that's going forward as well, not in the same agreements,
but definitely in the same lay and adventure. As part
of the changes soon, we'll roll out new, more advanced
licensed AI models next year and phase out its current systems.
Uh huh. Downloading AI generated tracks, this is where it's
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going to get really bonkers for a lot of things.
Going forward. Downloading AI generated tracks will become more restricted.
Only paying subscribers will be allowed to download the creations
through Souno, with extra charges and limits on the number
of downloads. So what that means. I can go to
SUNO's website or pseudo software Sodo program with all the
artists tied to it, remix stuff all day, but I
can only download if I pay for their subscription. Here's
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the thing, and this is where Spotify is going to
come into that argument as well. Say I remix the
song myself and I'm paying for a Souno subscription. I
download it. I made that myself. No other DMCA takedown
or bots like on YouTube can claim it because it's
a new creation with Frankenstein to other parts of Coldplay
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and Charlie XCX in a big mashup. Why just put
that on my own YouTube channel and monetize it? Why
can't I? And that'll just take YouTube's money. So that's
where it's at right now. The thing is, though, you're
taking two artists work jammicked together putting it online. I
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didn't make the music, I programmed the AI to make
it for me, and now I'm going to make money
off it rose, So that's where that is. And I'm
not making This is by no way a knock on
DJs like streaming DJs on Twitch and stuff. They're actually
going in and mapping beats and making rhythms themselves. They're
doing the gritty work. This is different, way different. This
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is a text prompt going make these two songs into
one and make it sound good and upbeat, poppy. Enter
Wait a couple of seconds, there's my new music.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
So one goal of these new models and download rules
to the curb the flood of AI generated tracks from
Suno that have been overwhelming music streaming platforms, and that's
been a big problem over the past oh year. I
want to say one solid year. I'm not talking about
parody junk two like make SpongeBob sing Evanescence, bree Meat
a Life. I'm not talking about parody stuff like that,
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you know. I'm talking about like real parody stuff. One
of the biggest ones last year people were stripping away
Emily from Lincoln Park's new parts, like the new songs
on the New Lincoln Park album and having ai Chester
sing them.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yep, yeah, I've seen those two. Those were those were
just creepy.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, it was. It was off putting, to say the least.
And they did the full album with that.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Major labels including Water, Universal and Sody, those three names
I'm not hitting own tens of thousands of licensed names,
artists and band that you are more than likely have
in your home right now, like so many big names.
Those three had previously sued Suno and Udio, another AI platform,
accusing them of using vast amounts of copyright of music
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without permission to train their AI models. That's what's nuts
to me and you and Warner just goes all, it's forgiven.
We'll make money together. Now what are you doing? No? So, yeah,
the lawsuits are still going against against Suno from Universal
and Sony. When Universal is looking like the good guy,
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Holy crap, what have you done?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
That's just well if they're already in bed with Warner
a matter of.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Time, Warner and Universal they have work together before too, Sony, Sole, Sony,
you just hold out strength, buddy, going.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
To be like the the shady friend who just puts
their arm around Universe and be like, buddy, they're not
that bad. Trust me, you could trust me. I vouch
for them.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Seriously.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, tell you what, my friend, what the first month's free?
You want to try it? Free to Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
To make money? Doesn't it sound great? Just making a
crap ton of money. Guys, save your will cost yourself guys,
save your discussing your shady comments for a little bit later.
I promise it's gonna get work.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Don't worry. I've got plenty loud for you.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Oh you both have plenty of cringe to share later.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, it's like sorrow On in Sorrow mon true.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yes, thank you guys so much. Please hit the like button.
By the way, we're trying to get up there. Yeah,
I just saw cringe afs. It's like sorrow On in
Sorrow Moon. Yes, Lord of the Rings. References will always
be appreciated. Let me pull up chat this way and
let me see if I can do it this way.
Hopefully this won't mess it up. Got my note separate.
There we go. Okay, thank you guys so much. Please
ht the like button. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Actually no, wait, it's not sorrow in sorrowmon.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Uh. This is like Warner would be like uh Grima
worm tongue to King Theod who is like universal. It's
like it's like old share.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Two towers, everybody, my lord.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Yes as are as a side element of the deal,
Suno has acquired song Kick, the live music and concert
discovery platform, from Water for in undisclosed amounts so.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Pudo's being rewarded. So if you ever use songkick now,
it's going to be integrated with a whole lot of
AI going forward. So a lot of this is stemmed
from the UK and US we don't know, and Suno
has a lot in Canada. We don't know how this
will affect worldwide. Again, this is only for Warner, but
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that is so many artists and bands, So why does
this affect everyone? For us? Why would this matter? Well,
now we get to the Spotify discussion. See Spotify knew
about all this. It looks like they were talking with
Warner and Sono. They were like the third party in
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the room, taking notes, waiting to jump at the right moment.
Spotify has been going through some changes and people have
noted about it. That's why so many bands and artists
have been jumping off Spotify. The terms of service are
now guaranteed going forward that you will allow your music
to be remixed on Spotify. So if you upload your
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music to Spotify or your label does you were agreeting
that premium users can remix their music your music however
they want, and can download it if they pay for
the premium subscription.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Oh that's amazing because my band is are releasing an
EP early next year. That's that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Well ale and as Alex and I are going to
remix it into the glorious AI generated monstrosity.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Hey, I would.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Never I will buy you a CD from you ruin.
Unlike Luke over here.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I'll be the bad cop on this one. I'll be
the guy just to prove a point.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
So actually, what you can do is make like a
slow reverb version and then just start posting it over
and over on TikTok. We'll make it a SoundBite. It'll
blow up and maybe we'll just be like sleep token
or something. That's the goal right there. Yeah, that's where
the money is.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
This is from the BBC a couple of weeks ago
and the updated information, but this is the best article
to say what's going on and how it ties to
right now. The firm said it wanted to make AI
tools which put artists and songwriters first, meaning that would
say I, who have a premium I don't have premium Spotify.
Please don't take that out of context. I jumped off
Spotify over a here ago. If I to have a
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previous Spotify account, I want to remix a Metallica song
with an ACDC song, I could remix it on the
app download vote for myself. Well you're saying, well, you
can only listen through it to the Spotify player, then,
so what's the better. No, I don't have to. I
download it myself on a file, I play it through Spotify,
and then I use one of a thousand audio recorders
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on my computer or phone to record what I'm playing,
and then I upload that and I'll make money off it.
No one else has it, so it's mine.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Like, seriously, this is just gonna be like you're just
gonna have like a completely unregulated market. I feel like
this is just gonna do not even just like not
even just want a creative standpoint or an artistic standpoint.
I feel like this is just gonna have like crazy
economic effects too.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I think so. And the people say, well that way,
like the Metallica ACDC example I just gave, Well, they'll
get their cut if you remix it and download it'll
be tracked. Yeah, for when I remix it and downloaded
that one time. But if I record it and upload
it somewhere else and there's no DMCA bot that has
that track, I could rake it in and the tal
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poor Metallica and ACDC won't get a penny, and like
you're saying, see, yeah, they don't need money. The small
bands will sorry, go ahead, Alex.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
No, no, no, You're fine. It's all very valid. Everything
we're saying. This is completely uncharted territory when we have
of all of this AI. We've been talking about it
for years coming into the music world. Now it's here
and they're welcoming it. This is a wild, wild revelation
in this entire game. We have no idea what's going
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to come from this, and I think it's going to
be horrible.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
It's going to be catastrophic going forward. I want to
make sure everyone's aware of this now. Both Miss Crystal
and other websites and platforms have already said this as well.
Spotify is going to be restructuring of their tiers. All
tears will be going up in price. So if you've
ever been looking for another reason to jump ship from
Spotify to another streaming platform, now do not wait. Black
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Friday's coming. If you're in some of the major countries
in the world that do the Black Friday stuff, they
will have sales like a six month trial of title
or something like that. Do it now, That's all you
got to do. There's no other way to say this.
This is going to end up making Warner and Souno
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and whoever else will be involved in the future. They're
gonna keep making the same amounts of money. Spotify will
make more money, and the artists are gonna get less
than the zero point zero zero three sense per streme,
it's what it's less than that too. I don't remember
the exact fraction yet. No, it's gonna make.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Less to your point. Yeah, yeah, to your point.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Like they already get so little from someone just listening
to their actual song. What are they going to do
when it comes to like, oh, yeah, we used an
element of you in a in a song, but we're
gonna treat that as like its own, separate, creative like thing.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
See, this is gonna, I wonder it's got to. And
I cannot pretend, none of us can pretend to know
all of the legal ease and the ins and outs
and what this actual means.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
But I genuinely believe that this is going to devalue
just like any payout anyone guess really, because.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Like I absolutely agree with you, but I'm curious how
it's gonna work for sampling from here on out, because
tons of bands sample other bands already. We've had that
for years. Some of our favorite songs have little samples
from bands from the seventies and fifty. What's that going
to look like now under this weird new model.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
I know, Yeah, that's the weirdest thing.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
But to Luke's point earlier, at least when people do
sample or or like h or do like these mashups,
they're at least making an effort. They're like they're changing
the bpm, or they're just taking like specific like things
that match that match like time wise.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
You know, there I will see the agree in that
literally everything.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
And that's my worry is these AI artists not artists,
are gonna claim something, Oh no, I just sampled them.
When you talk, I just sampled it. That's what I'm
worried about.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
It's gonna be a coffee shop now, go ahead, go ahead,
Sorry I caught off.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Go ahead, No, yeah, sorry, sorry, I was gonna say.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I feel like this is gonna oversaturate the market because
now that like the barrier of entry is just gonna
be insanely low for anybody who wants to like make
some money for music. I mean, I mean again, at
least with a DJ or a sampler. You need some
skill with that. But now it's like, oh yeah, I
don't have a single music musical bone in my body,
but AI can just do whatever I want for me.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
That is correct. Yes, my joke was at your local
coffee shop. This instead of a guy with that acoustic
guitar trying to schmooz to women talking about beauty musician,
I'm an AI musician boop, and it just plays just.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Throw my hot coffee at.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
That guy, and that guy is gonna and that guy
could have a bajillion hits on Spotify and YouTube, a
bajillion and he's like, yeah, I made that.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Okay, do you guys know who glorb is the artist?
Have you guys heard of Glob? Uhh Okay.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
So this is gonna sound super stupid, and especially because
me and my friends are actually fans of him. Globe
is a musical artist who makes trap style songs with
SpongeBob characters and he uses AI to help with the voices.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
But the thing is, it's eause me though, right, It's
it's comedy.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Yeah, but it's like he still does all the lyrics,
all the music, those are all original, and he just
and he still sings. He just puts his vocals through
an AI filter just to help with the voice, just
so it sounds like, oh yeah, this is mister Krabs
or this is planked In or whoever else. You know,
there's still some artistic merit to it.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah, And like when I talk about twitch streamers, like
I've been following a DJF, here's knee beats whatever. She
does her own original creations that she'll put on YouTube
as well, like offline she attributes what bands and artists
she uses, all the different versions, shit they're renamed. You
could tell it's an original creation of her sitting down
and working out and mapping the beats together. She's not
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using an AI prompt on a window on her phone
and saying make this song three and a half minutes
now click, you know, And that's what's gonna happen going forward,
and no one could stop it. My and my argument
is not on the warners soda side. It's more on
the well I just downloaded once, record it on to
another recorder and then upload it and it's mine. How
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are they going to stop or track it. They can't.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
No, they can't. No, That's what I'm trying to make too.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
The point I'm trying to make is that, like I
feel like some people are going to try and defend
this where it's just like, oh, but people use mashups
or samples of other people's like songs all the time
for their remixes or whatever. How's is any different. It's
like when you do that like beforehand, you still need
some skill to do that, and there's still some actual
like uh, production involved. It's not just all, oh, yeah,
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I'm just gonna tell a computer what I want.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Is just kinda spit it out for me.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
So yeah, that's where this is disgusting because it's not
this is not art. It's I said blah blah blah
blah blah, and I made it do the thing for me.
And I'm sure you have more points to make, Luke,
but one fun I might piggyback.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
There's yeah, they might piggyback. There's what other point I
wanted to make. A year from now, say November twenty six,
twenty twenty six, we hear artists come out all through
twenty twenty six brand new ones we're gonna have to
do the same thing that boomers do when they look
at images on Facebook. Is that real or AI? I
can't tell. We'll have to start doing that now for
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a lot of new artists and bands. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
No, it's like I'm gonna have to think we're I'm
gonna have to talk to my bandmates. We're gonna have
to find some way to validate to our fan base.
It's like, yeah, we're real, We're not. We're not a
bunch of AI generated images.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (22:26):
That's exactly what AI thought would say.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Oh, they're like seventies dudes.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yes, I do remember that too. And also someone chat
said it doesn't help that a music label side an
AI artist recently. Yep, I don't remember the label, but
I do remember that.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I have to tell you guys about what I learned today.
I was reading this crazy long article. The number one
song on the viral fifty chart global right now on
Spotify was an AI artist.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I believe I'm Charlie Kirk's song.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I wasn't gonna say that, but yes, that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah, and that sucks, but because but I do understand
because people are playing that to check out how awful
it is.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
It's well, I don't know, yeah, peoples, yes, memes.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Oh and I've been reading like up on this, so
this artist is what I was getting at, not the song.
So this artist, this AI generator guy, the song itself
AI generated. Of course, this artist has released two hundred
and eighty songs since December of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I believe it.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
This person just keeps This person just keeps spitting out
a bunch of AI crap. That's the kind of stuff
that we're going to see topping viral fifty global charts
on Spotify. That's so gross.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
And also why would Warder look at that and go,
whoa if we sign this our artist is it's he's
our artist then and we get a cut of that,
who cares if it's AI.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I think they're trying to like they're trying to market
to like the people who you start using like music
for memes or something, or just start marketing memes songs
in general.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Which again, and it's just like when you're trying to
like do all this just to find some way to
justify it or maybe just streamline it so you directly
make more money. It's like again, it's just like it
feels like the media industry as a whole is just
becoming more and more soulless, and that honestly sucks for
I think.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
All of us, Yes, honestly, And that's that's like the
plight of un regulated greed is what I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Call it, just to be that's a good term for it. Yes, well,
who's gonna help? The pseudo was the ones getting sued.
They're getting rewarded now in the sub yes, so oh.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Yeah, no, I'm not even just like talking like I'm
not even just talking music now someone else like mentioned earlier,
but like the Coca Cola fully AI ad, I'm seeing
like fully high ads like on in like TV.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Commercials when never talk about a later.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Yeah no, it's just like it's like, wow, you know,
not ten fifteen years ago someone with my degree gets
paid to make these commercials or work on these sets.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Now that's being completely taken over.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
So now it's like a where it's like I got
to educate myself on how to use AI just so
I can keep my freaking job.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yes it sucks, I freaking hate it.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Or learn to be a plumber like what else, Like
that's the thing that is making me so mad about
all of this AI crap. Obviously we're a little passionate
about the music industry, but as a whole, this AI
stuff that these companies keep pushing and keep forcing down
our throats and keep funding with god, we can't even
fathom amounts of money. They don't want to help us.
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They don't want to help you write a new song.
They want to take over and monopolize this entire everything. Say, oh, okay,
we don't need you to do that. We're gonna keep
all that money. Oh we don't need you to do
that either. Art music, yank. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
It's gonna be like, oh, you got a great sound, kid,
we're gonna take your songs. We're gonna put it through
AI and then we can just start pumping out ourselves
and we can license it to it as our own
stuff and you can't do anything about it.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
That's right the way they want it. They're not even
gonna say they're not even gonna give the kids a
chance anymore. They're like, oh no, we already have that music.
We don't need to listen to these guys anymore. They
don't care about the people and those they don't care.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
And those end user license agreements, those contracts, those opt ins,
they're gonna get ten times longer and more involved with
all the legal ees you can imagine, just so you
can use these platforms like Spotify that you wanted to
listen to again, get off a platform like that, it's
only going to get worse. But for the artist's side,
I don't know what to tell you besides get off Spotify,
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start working with band camp, and tell every single fan
you've ever had, this is what's going on. We have
to step forward and do something because the top top
Warner and while Universal and Sony are still suing that
we don't know what's going to happen. Warner just shook
hands and said, you know what, let's do it. Let's
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make AI integration for everything. So how's everyone feel good?
Cheerry optimistic? Bright?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yeah, I am. So when you're feeling existential dread, are
you in the middle of an existential crisis?
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Rowan Well, I mean, like I just said.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
It could be ongoing for all of us, not even just.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Like musician, but like even film and television. That's what
I do, and it's been taken over by AI. Oh am,
I going to be out of a job. Do I
have to start putting prize in the bag?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
All right, yeah, we'll tell Yeah. They're already doing automation
for fast food places, so I can't do that.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Oh great, Oh god.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Automat You didn't see the taco bell in Vegas that
it's the fully automated thing, the drive through that's automated.
Oh yeah, it's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Good god.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
You didn't see the pizza joint at an airport that
makes the pizzas for Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Thosewo yeah they suck?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, okay, real quick?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Can a fallout style apocalypse happen?
Speaker 4 (27:54):
So I can just roam like grab my buddies together,
and I could just be banditing because that honestly sounds
like a better future.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yes, And that'll be caused by AI and it'll be
done wrong, like it will only like sing all our
eyebrows and that's it. So just like a really lame
cataclysmic bomb. That's it.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
So I don't know, y'all. Meteor twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I will say this for other countries. A lot of
people in America have been mission for that meteor for
a long time now, Guys, it's not gonna think.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
I'm not thinking met her. I want zombie a biocalypse.
If we have some world and like world ending event,
at least that will be fun.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Fun.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Yes, you're telling me you would have fun, just like
getting your buddy together.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
It's gonna be zombie. It's not gonna be zombie Land. Nope,
it will not be.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Brother. You don't get to choose. You could be like
in the middle of the blast.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
So yeah, exactly. So all right, we have other news
to talk about. Thank you for indulging us everyone. I
know that is not our typical fair for the stores
we talk about, but this was a big deal that
needs more attention. I urge you all if you're interested
in more The links in the description from top music
attorney Miss Crystal, who was in on the Suno lawsuits
(29:10):
and stuff. She broke it down today for three hours
on a live stream. She broke it out yesterday about
the Spotify shenanigans. She's the source. Definitely check it out.
I promise it's worth it. If you were already angry,
listen to us break it down. You'll be even more
angry but more informed by doing that. See, all right, Well,
(29:32):
who else is having a good week. Maybe not Arch Enemy.
They just had the bad news that Arch Enemy has
parted with Alyssa White Gloves after quite a few years.
Not their first singer Alyssa was, however, Alissa White glaz
made a post also saying she's going to drop her
new debut single The Room Where She Died, which means
this was probably a planned breakup going for a while.
(29:56):
Probably the statement that was from one Arch Enemy that
drops Archedime have parted ways with singer Alyssa white Clowes.
We thankful for that. We're thankful for the time and
music we shared to wish for all the best. Wherever
there is an end ending, there is also a beginning.
See you. In twenty twenty six, Alyssa followed up after
twelve years in Arch Enemy, we have parted ways. I'm
(30:16):
forever thankful to the thousands amazing fans I met along
the way. Thank you Beastlings. Can't wait to share what
I've been working on with you all with some very
big surprises in stores. Stay tuned for big news in
twenty twenty six. So at least seems somewhat amicable. We
don't know if there's any bad blood or how this
fell out. We know both of them have plans going forward.
Uh but yeah, no more blue hair in Arch Enemy.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
You don't know, we don't know what the future looks like.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
That's true. The next singer blue Hairy, What do I know?
That's right?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
You never know the d hair blue.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yes, I'm Alisa. Oh is Alicia? I'm Alicia, not Alyssa.
They just chose me by name, So.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah, I love it's alss A lookalike.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, we pay her less money.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Oh that would no, that would be horrible, horrible.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
I love Alisa White Glues. I was so I gotta
be super honest about this one. This one sucks because
she is so talented and I'm a huge fan of hers.
She was never like the arch Enemy. She was the
Arch Enemy vocalist. Like when I think of Arch Enemy,
my mind always harkens back to Angelica's how like she
will always be that defining Arch Enemy person for me,
(31:26):
whereas Elsa will always be the defining agonist front person
for me. That's what I always That's how I always
think of it. I'm super excited to see what she
does from here. Her first singles exciting, and I don't know,
I'm excited to see what arch Enemy does too.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I also think wherever there is an ending, there is
also a beginning. That is a statement. They would not
have just thrown that in there for just whatever, especially
when part's saying selected their lead that her and Alissa
are done. So that has to allude to something. I
don't know what that would be, but a lot of
people are what Angela back.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah, and she's spoken out, she's been She stepped into
like a manager role of the band. Like I said,
I was a huge Angela Archenemy fan, like that's my
pinnacle Archenemy. She stepped into like that managerial role. I
would be super curious to see if she was to
do anything. I don't see that happening.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Though, right So, yeah, people are saying I need to
listen to more of Archenemy with Angela. Alyssa was good,
but Angela was argentemy. So a lot of people were
echoing that statements as well. We'll see sooner than later.
This is not something because Archenemy has dates planned if
I'm correct, in twenty twenty six, and they have other
stuff too, And apparently Alyssa has her own music plan
as well, with a new single out, so there's definitely
(32:38):
stuff coming, so we'll see on both sides. It does
it again. It doesn't seem like it's too tumultuous of
a breakup. We don't know all the details, but it
doesn't seem like it's get off the bus and we're
abandoning you. Speaking of the band, Vitriol ditched their singer
and it kicked them off the bus and abandoned them.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
This has been in the yaes station in New York?
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Was it New York? Of her mom?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Was it in New York? I?
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Well, you know what we're gonna find out right here,
so so we yes, he's gonna knock on the door.
Hey my box. My band members left me. Man, I
heard your podcast was live. Can I put a message
on your podcast?
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:16):
I forget his name, but like he just shows up
behind me.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
So for those who are not aware, Vitriol front man
Caylirasmusen is speaking out after the other three members of
the band, not the original members. Other three manders currently
of Vitriol all posted on social media that they decided
to leave the band by abandoning him in a gas
station as they headed home mid tour. The story has
now expired from Keith Merrow's Instagram stories. All three members
(33:42):
have left Vitriol and said they will make their own band,
with a quote, gotta get this right myself, Andy Brett
and Matt will not take Kyle's cowardly and weak outbursts
of misplaced anger. We gave everything we had and now
we have now left you with nothing mass exodusts, this
was the darkest day of my music career to date.
(34:02):
That that's a little more tumultuous than the arch enemy situation.
This marks the second time in two years that Vitriol
have faced mid toward defecation defections. I almost said defications. Boy,
that's a terrible boy. You know what, I don't know
what's going on the bus whatever, that's notting Basis and
co vocalists Adam Roths Roethlisberger followed on early year departure
a bid based jeez, how who was it was? Alex
(34:24):
or Row which one of you looked it up? Said,
how many band members have been through Vitul?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
It was me yet in nineteen nineteen.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
That is puddle of mud levels with West Scantlin. Everybody
that is way is first.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
This worst of Pentagram, a band that has existed for
fifty years.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
It's like, well, yeah, when people pass on from natural causes, yeah,
of course they're gonna have to change them out.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
But I know, yeah, like nineteen and this band is
only like as far back as I know, this band
has only been releasing music since like twenty thirteen.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
So twelve years nineteen members in twelve years. My god.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
So the response has come from Kyle Rasmussen, who said
in post won yesterday one today at the video I
believe is still up on Instagram. From Kyle's response, I
don't have it pulled up here. It was important to
me to see how Keith, Brett and Andy decided to
handle this the following day. Unfortunately, they chose to double down,
and they are sharing information with people I care about
that simply it's just not true. Some it's an exaggeration.
(35:17):
Some of it's outright fallacious. I didn't threaten him physically,
I didn't touch him. He leaves, I try to go
back to sleep. At this stage, I'm not thinking that
the situation is that dire. But while he admits that
he blew a lid, admitting that he reacted angrily, we
don't know how many times this has happened. He didn't
think anything was significantly wrong until he told the other
band members were packing up their things. Rascus said he
(35:40):
was then confronted by other band members saying that he
couldn't talk to them like that, and he questioned Marrow
entering his private space and being hostile. The dispute went nuclear.
From the outside, if I saw this, I would have
to assume that this was just a pressure cooker of
animosity that exploded into extreme. It was an extreme action.
It was a drugged out temper tantrum. This is where
the drug accusations come man, some of those that popped
(36:01):
up as well, So this is where it gets dark.
The claim from the singer was that he was not
the only one abandoned. You know who else was abandoned
on the side of the road. Not a buppy wife
and doggo who are on the road with them, is
what they're saying. They didn't just by the way, using
(36:22):
vitriol warfare, using the Instagram. They didn't just leave me stranded.
They also abandoned Maggie and Ghost. Please do not contribute
without entertaining everyone's side of the story. So he's telling
everyone get all the points they have a gofund me
to get them back home to Oregon. They are either
in Vermont to New York. I don't know, which doesn't
matter at that point. So now I feel like everyone's
(36:43):
a jerk and a monster.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Why it sucks?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Go ahead, sir, no, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
I've heard their name in passing before. But then, like,
when I saw this story starting to blow up, I'd
decided to finally give their musical listen to you, and
I listened to their latest album It what sucks as
that I liked the album.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
So now I'm thinking, like, oh, it's always a pos.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
It's just like, oh, that's another band adding to the
list that is.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Correct, And we don't know, Like, we're aware that this
guy has had issues with previous band members enough to
almost fill a baseball team, but we now know that
the other band members might also have accusations against them
about drug use. We don't know anything yet. And now
the singer is claiming him, his wife and his dog
were a bandon, not just him. That's nuts.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
So dog did not ask for this man, Nope.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
No, the dog did not deserve that. You couldn't just
you couldn't just like take the dog with you or something.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
I just know, I just I don't know what's going
to come next to this. I know this is not
the end for the Vitriol shenanigans. I don't know how
else to describe it. But this has been a big
story of the last forty eight hours, just following what's
going on with Kyle Resmussen. People now know of Vitriol
as the guy that got left at a at a
(38:02):
bus stop or a gas station.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Three I was run through nineteen members.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
And once you get double ditchits, isn't it time to go?
Like maybe it's me?
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Yeah, No, that's like the thing he says to like,
you know, take get all the facts first, and like
we're still the story is still developing. But I mean,
like that's that's a bad sign. That's a bad sign.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
So you guys, you know how music pops into my head.
I have Taylor Swift in my head. Now I'm the problem.
It's me, that's Kyle, that's Kyle.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Now, Kyle's version, Kyle's version of thank you.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Brain appreciated.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Vitriol should do what I prevailed it and make a
Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Cover, and was that how he bounces back would be
pretty fitting.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Records and his wife records it On Instagram, his posted
live said, this is what I have to resort to
do to get some money back on GoFundMe you and
then it says the wrong song like shake it off
or something just gets it wrong?
Speaker 4 (38:59):
To be fair, how awesome would it be if we
had a death metal cover of a sailor's song.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Oh, I'm sure it exists. It has to. There's no
like even if we I don't know who done it,
who's done it? I'm confident it exists. I mean Corey
Taylor his performed Pig Pony Club. Okay, yeah, so you
know what. It totally is possible. Speaking of the impossible
being possible, guess who's back Axl Rose and Slash taking
(39:27):
Guns and Roses on a Big Fatty World tour in
twenty twenty six, with not one but two new songs
coming as soon as next week New Guns N' Roses
music in twenty twenty five. Boy, I did not see
this coming.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
I can't wait to never listen to this.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Oh I think for the podcast, you're gonna have to
be curious enough to want to listen at least one
of them.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
Okay, you're gonna have to do it. We're gonna have
to do it like clock or horn style or something.
You have to put me in a straight jacket or something.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
We had to listen to that sold ep from Motley
Crewe Weekend Stomach of Guns and Roses.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
You know what that is the low bar. So, man,
if it's as bad as the it cannot be as
bad as the canceled ep. I'm willing to bet that one.
I am not a betting man. That's a bet. Okay,
you're bearing garbage, the hot garb I am. I agree, No,
I agree. It's like when i'd have to take out
the kitty later that garbage. I agree. But oh man,
(40:26):
so the cake and tease nothing. The name of the
new song is nothing or nothing. Excuse me, it's called nothing.
Dave Duck Pagan mentioned guns and roases new song nothing
and there is, so I roll off tone. I'm not
gonna play the whole thing, sorry, because it's gonna get claims.
But yeah, Duff's talking about the new song nothing or nothing,
(40:47):
depending on how you want to say it. It's coming soon, real, real,
real soon. This is the first new music since a
few years ago when they had a like I Want
to say it was a new EP. Was that what
it was after? Not Chinese Democracy? Like it was like
hard school or something like, yeah, hard school, Yeah, I
forget the name.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yeah, it was a B side from Yes Appetite for
Destruction that they had never released exactly.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Well, apparently this is new new The two new songs,
Nothing and Atlas will be out December seconds, so you
know what, that's very soon. They called it rite in
time for next week's podcast, Rowan has a song of
the week next week. Let's see what he picks. Yes,
everyone has the same jock. It'll be nothing. Oh, lot
(41:36):
of nothing. Song's gonna be nothing. Yeah, I know, I know, guys,
at least save your jokes until you hear the song.
We don't know what to expect.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
It's like, it's like that, it's like a Seinfeld joke.
What's the song called?
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Nothing?
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Nothing? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Nothing? Yeah? Who's singing? No?
Speaker 3 (41:56):
One? Okay, Well, well.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
We shall see.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
We said part of a new this song might actually
stand a chance.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
They're also saying this stands as scandalone singles or could
be part of an EP or full album. There's no
real commitment as of now standalone singles. However, if they're
announcing this fatty World tour for next year. Again true
world tour. They're go in several continents, starting through Central America,
going to South America, then North America, then to Europe,
then back to the United States. It's all over. Sorry
(42:29):
Australian Africa. Guns n' Roses doesn't care about you. Sorry,
I don't know what's tellia. It says world tour and
it is a lot. But yeah, they're going from March
till September, a lot of dates, a lot. They're planning
on worka next year. Take it for what it's worth.
But next year Guns n' Roses returns a big everyone excited.
(42:52):
Oh my god, sound like you had your a little
kid that had to go to the dentist. Whoa I
get to pick a way out of the cabin after
getting cavities filled.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
I haven't been to s excited since tax season.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
The one you owed, Yeah, one where the irs came
like caught up.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah, exactly after you've been Oh that's way words.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Yeah, they have a ted benecky situation. If anyone gets
a reference.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
You saw them, that's okay. I already saw them live
nearly three years ago. Jeez. Yeah, crushing. And I saw
them in twenty nineteen. We didn't love it. We did
not love it, So I mean they just wrapped up there.
Because what you want and what you get are two
completely different things. Tour mm hm, and this tour is bigger.
It's significantly bigger. Looking at all the states are going
(43:44):
through or the countries are going through, it's much bigger.
So we're gonna see what's gonna happen with that, and
they might have new more new music to play on
those shows, Nothing Atlas and whatever else they can come
up with.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
Man, it feels like they have been They have been
gliding on Appetite since Appetite came out. I think I
think that that's just like something that like everyone kind
of knows at this point.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
I think it's because and that's why I think this
most recent run of tours has been so successful, because
they in twenty sixteen they launched their Not in This
Lifetime tour and that stretched for three years, and that
was the first time the original lineup was back. I've
gotten back together well, I mean most over half over
half over half yeah, missing easy but still.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah, but even I counted that too. Is like that
is a true return. I counted that as well. So
now ten years later, Big Fatty Tour with there are
new songs, I would not discredit that. So we'll hope.
I'll give a listen. I will listen on Tuesday when
it drops, because our curiosity has already gotten me, not
(44:51):
like Motley Crue. Motley Crue I went was like, oh,
what are they going to do now? This is like,
all right, let's see what you got more out of
curious as opposed to dread. Does that make sense? Yes,
that's yeah. So by the way, this picture that Loudwire
shows Slash at least in mid guitar at least looks
like he's aged appropriately. That is not even the same
(45:13):
human being Axel Rose as he was appetite for destruction.
Looks like a totally different person.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah, that happens.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Life happened a lot to that.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
You're comparing a twenty year old to a sixty year old.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Well, life happens hard sometimes.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
Yeah, life happened a lot harder for that twenty year
old to sixty year old, a lot harder. Lots. So
move on talking about international stuff like world tours, warped tours,
going international, We talked about it a couple of weeks ago,
like with warp toward Orlando, how it did go mostly
well and like they did put in a lot of effort.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
Well.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Next year they're adding two dates and that's Canada and Mexico.
If it ellade there we go. I think this is
an appropriate way to venture and make it bigger because
they're only doing one Warped tour a month and they're
all separated out by significant spaces. Washington, DC, June, Long Beach,
(46:09):
California July, Montreal in August, Mexico City in September, Orlando,
Florida November. That's enough space. I think they I can
learn and from what happened this year and figure out
how to make things bigger and make people happy and
get the appropriate lineups for all five different cities and
(46:30):
possibly give as Alexandria break if they book them again,
that's a problem. That's just trolling at that point.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
So anything expectations keep them low.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Yeah, yeah, any thoughts on the Warped Tour updates.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
I'll see.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
Like I think I said this last week, I feel
like once they the more they the more.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
They do this, they'll better.
Speaker 4 (46:54):
They'll be able to like plan better like future shows,
because I mean, like practice space perfect, I feel like
a festival kind of goes say way again, just like
you know, maybe just don't bring back asking you Alexandrew
because I was kind of a dumpster fire.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Yeah, I think they can also learn from what they
did wrong to improve on it, and I think expanding
it to other cities and more worldwide is a very
smart move.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Yeah, question for you, Alex, Is Shoreline Waterfront the same
venue as last year? Yes? Okay, so it's going to
be the same parking walk forty minutes from your car
to get to the venue and that's why people left
early because they were so fed up. Okay, so didn't
learn too much from that, but maybe the other ones
they did. Maybe so because Orlando's the same, DC's the same,
and then obviously Montreal. Mexico City will be big. Someone
(47:40):
just said the chat that Mexico City one's going to
be sold out and crazy.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Yeah, dude, remember the guy we talked to in Chicago,
like he and his friends were always so stoked to
hit these really big, fun rock festivals in Mexico.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
This is going to be like that amplified because like
in Mexico City. Apparently there's no curfew cut off for concerts,
like you don't have to be done by eleven or
twelve even for festivals, so it goes to two or
three am, doesn't matter. Party a warp tour party in September.
Who hopefully again, if the lineup's good, I would go
because they did a lot of things right. They did
(48:15):
things I didn't love, but again, they did a lot
of things right, and they're trying.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
May get efforts.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
And you and I talked about that as well, because
I was graping not on air about I had such
high expectations for this lineup, and I'm like, well, I
know better than to keep my expectations too high. Yeah,
And I hope they learned from that, because you did not.
In my personal opinion, they did not come out of
the gate swing in for their big thirtieth anniversary. So
(48:42):
if that was just like, I.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Agree, and now I said the same thing, not for either,
not for all three. Yep, they need one big if
one big solid headliner for each of these five dates.
It would work out. Rowan will send you up to
Canada get your passport or in French.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
I'm only like four hours away for the border.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
I'm gonna say, you're the closest to Canada. DC is
close to me.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
I've made the candidates too. It's not well there, it
wasn't bad.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
Yeah, I actually know it.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
My singer lives in Canada. I can visit him.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Ooh there. Yeah, well now you can get all that.
We got to get you on that small stage too,
like that the local stage.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
Yeah, whatever it's it's not Ernie Ball anymore, but whatever
it is.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
Whatever it's sponsored.
Speaker 4 (49:25):
Yeah, we'll be like President will be like our first
our debut show will just happen to be a major festival.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Well, I mean they're coming in the States next year anyway,
so I can with bad omens. I can totally see
them doing some of these dates as well. President at work.
President is not coming. President's coming earlier than that. They
have a show playing like.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
The nex Co month.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
They'll come back in my city. They'll totally come back
for Warped tour. They don't care. Huh. Get your speculation
in now for who's gonna play Warped toward twenty twenty six.
It could be wildly different for each lineup. I kind
of hope it's a little different for each one, but
I again, one solid headliner for each would seal the deal,
(50:03):
not machine gun Kelly twice and expecting that to make
everyone happy. Okay, sorry, that's bonkers. So finally we end
with some good news before we get to our regular stuff.
It's important to celebrate good news here on the Podcast
That Rocks. Not only did Jay Weinberg release an awesome
new single, his first single with featuring George Clark of
(50:26):
Death Heaven It's awesome. Well, now he's making his own
band with his wife. That has made the announcement today
expecting a little Jay Weinberg baby with his wife. I
think this is awesome. They made the announcement sweet little
post on Instagram. They've been married for a while. I
truly feel Jay's doing a thousand times better now he's happy,
(50:47):
he is single. It's great. The one he made with
George Clark, it's called Sandstone. Check that out. And looks
like we'll have another drummer in the world coming soon
because he comes from a long pedigree of drummers successful drummers.
Drummer for Bruce Springsteen and played at the Super Bowl
and played for Conan for gears, Jay slip Knot now
doing his own thing with suicidal tendencies as well. What's
(51:09):
this third? Little wine Wineberg gonna.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
Be a lawyer?
Speaker 4 (51:16):
I was gonna say, I was gonna say an actor rebellion.
He plays a different instrument, like he's guitar bassed or something.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
I'm thinking he's going even further. He's gonna be like,
you know what, Dad, I want to be a doctor.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
No, my son, It's like I have no exactly are.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
You playing with a stethoscope? Put that down and pick
up the drum sticks?
Speaker 3 (51:38):
You want to cure cancer? How dare you?
Speaker 1 (51:45):
Again? Congratulations to the line bags. We now go to
our regularly scheduled shenanigans that we usually to. I'm just
gonna leave the nice little post up right here because
that's wholesome. I can't even see it all the way
because obs and Instagram are fighting each other, but you
know what, wholesomeness sometimes we need. We're not going to
(52:05):
talk about, however, our regular information. We got some upcoming
tours and albums that did get announced, a few of
them because this is holiday weekend here in the United States.
The tumultuous one where fist fights break out over a Turkey. However,
some news, any upcoming tours that got announced.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Alex, Yeah, hang on, you guys are glitching a little bit, glitching.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
Okay, Alex will go backwards, Rowan, Are you ready for albums?
I am wait, No, I'm ready, Okay, roll okay, Alex, Okay,
there we go.
Speaker 2 (52:37):
Hey, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't all skippy.
I thought I think it was.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
It was it was a discord issue. Yeah, it was
a discosd perfect.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
Okay, as long as it's not my connection, yes, Okay.
Megadeth have announced a Canadian tour, so that's going to
be some fun for Canadia.
Speaker 4 (52:53):
Rowan's going to go check down out for US lausible
than in the Moon, so good for them.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
Yeah, it's a lot easier to get to. Also, they
have a good lineup with them, if I'm correct to
support they have a good support act.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
Yeah, we've got Anthrax and Exodus. Oh yeah, that'll be
super rad.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
That's an appropriate thrashy tour, So you know what, Canada,
that's a good start for you guys next year.
Speaker 3 (53:18):
That if there's like one right by the border.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
Yeah, well, and then later in the year, Mega Death
is going to be joining Iron Maiden again. We talked
about that a bit and a lot of Anthrax with
Iron Maidens. So Megadeth go check it out. In Canada.
We've got Guns N' Roses. We already talked about that,
Google Dolls. The Google Dolls are going to be playing
a little bit the end of this year and next year.
Then we've got Sepultura just they just announced their final
(53:42):
European show featuring Biohazard, Malevolence, Sacred Reich and Crypta.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
Interesting but it can work. It'll totally work.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
Well, it's it's a crazy sendoff for Europe, so that'll
be super rad. Howeling Giant and Insomniac announced a North
American tour. Machine Head just announ an evening with styled
European tour, which would also be kind of fun.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
Yeah, that's it telling.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
Very nice Rowan. How about albums coming out this Black Friday,
November twenty eighth.
Speaker 4 (54:14):
It's a decent lineup, especially if you're a big black
metal fan, because there's actually a few bands in the
genre that are releasing. First of all, we have thirteen
forty nine coming out with Winter Mass. We got I
am sorry if I'm sorry in advance if I mispronounced
this name blood ou snored with Ethereal Horizons. We have
death metal band Equilibrium, Oh no, sorry no, German folk
(54:37):
metal band Equilibrium releasing Equinox through Nuclear Blasts. And then finally,
this is kind of a cool one, we have Molific
Throne with the Conquering Darkness. This is the debut album
of a death metal group that are featuring members from
Oh my God, Morbid Angel. Yeah, Morbid Angel members are
in this band. And again no, it's it's like a
(54:59):
death metal superheros.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
Black Friday is right, sweet Mercy, this is the darkest
Friday we've had ever? Whoof so I do even think
of that? That's cool, very good stuff. It is Alex's
turn for Song of the Week. Alex I also shows
this one for heaviest metal Picks this week, So you
picked a good one. Would you like to talk about
the song of the week this week?
Speaker 2 (55:19):
Sure? I am super impressed with what Sue Marian's putting
out right now, and this is definitely one of those
the artist. I kind of did a little bit of
digging into some of the other stuff she's done, and
she's fun. She's kind of kooky. She's done a couple
of like interviews here and there where she's like, oh yeah,
I'm pop metal, which kind of fits the theme of
(55:39):
what's gaining a lot of traction these days in this
music vein. But Banna Vanna, I think it's Vanna Pray
is the first official release from Vanna on Suemerian Records,
and I really like the groove. I like the way
it sounds, and I'm excited to see what she puts
out from here that.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
This she can get quite loud. That still shot of
her right now on screen, Yeah, that's appropriate one for
the music videos too. So Vanna Pray from New Zealand.
I wonder if she uses all the New Zengland linguo,
like just funny words for everything. So we'll have to
find out if we ever get to interviewer. That being said,
we do have two super chats. If you have any
of the superchats, everybody, just let us know. It's still
(56:19):
not too late to get them in from Ellie Yeat.
Considering that tonight is also the world premiere of the
first half of the fifth and final season of Stranger Things,
here's a prediction Vecta is defeated by the music of
Ozzy Osbourne. Uh because Metallica in the last season too, gotcha.
See I did not. I have not kept up with
all Stranger things. I only watched the first two seasons
(56:40):
and that's it.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
Well now they're forty five, so oh.
Speaker 4 (56:43):
Okay, Yeah, there's the girl played eleven is not is
a mother now actually that's actually true.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
Yeah, she's twenty one in IRL so.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
Yeah, and John Bonjobi's son had a baby. Well they
adopted a baby girl.
Speaker 1 (56:57):
Oh see, that's that's adopted.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
Adopt her.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
That's fun.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
They adopted her.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
See. That's a great story though. And I really do
agree with all the media stuff's like, maybe leave this
woman alone. She's been hounded since she's been eleven literally said,
maybe just leave her alone and let her have a life.
So I can never remember her name, Haley Bobby Brown?
Is that it Millie Bobby Brown?
Speaker 2 (57:22):
Yeah, Millie Bobby Brown. And then John bon Jovi son.
Speaker 1 (57:26):
Yeah, Haley Bobby Brown. Yeah, there you go, hyphenate the
name off.
Speaker 3 (57:31):
They get the kid.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
Yes, also from Elie. Also time for some PTSD. My
favorite color is on Patreon and YouTube membership. That's the
new video he's highlighting. Thank you very much. I posted
a new video again. If you have YouTube membership or Patreon,
you get that video early. It's available for you right now.
It's about Ajar and it's not fun. So also, thank
(57:54):
you Rocking Movies with Tyler for renewing your channel membership.
Very much appreciated. You do that during these streams. It
helps push the out. So thank you guys so much
for hanging out with us. Let me refresh because we
do have at least one festival to book. Please hit
the like button if you have it already. It does
help out a ton. We still have more likes, so
we may not get our current one because I knew
it's like it's a holiday weekend. People are traveling right now.
(58:16):
I knew that was going to happen. But if you
get your likes in and you're watching it, we can
get one more rest festival rounded help out Alex and Rowan.
Are you ready to book a festival for Ellie yeats? Yep, yes,
I am very nice. Every week when we get certain
super chants or hit a light goal, we book a
random festival. Sometimes it's great, sometimes it's terrible. Last week
(58:37):
was interesting. Is that a good way to say it.
It wasn't the worst, but it was. It was interesting
to say the least. So well, you guys hit the
like button, please do so, I'm gonna pull this up.
Make sure you guys know I'm not cheating rock. There
we go. I'm really hoping for el Ee because sometimes
el Ee Eat is one of our most faithful super chatters.
(58:59):
But all so, sometimes you get screwed over. So we're
really hope that one time. Yes he did, he got
the worst one in the history of the show. Yes
he did. That is that is very true. So go
right here, right here, all right, yeat Fest band number one,
you got a Migo the Devil. You're getting some dark
folk music that Actually that is a pretty cool opener,
(59:21):
to be fair, that's a good solid opener.
Speaker 2 (59:23):
So he's so fun.
Speaker 1 (59:24):
Yes, Number two within Temptation, nothing like Amego the Devil,
but a lot of fun symphonic metal.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 3 (59:34):
I like the vibe.
Speaker 1 (59:35):
Number three Rancid. I think we had those last week.
We did, Yes we did. So we're gonna move on
from Rancid. Number three bowling for soup. The vibe of
yeat Fest is interesting. But you know what, I don't
hate it. It's really not bad. And number four sex Squatch.
Speaker 4 (59:59):
This is this is such a weird lineup. There's no
big big names, but this is.
Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
So we'll have within Temptation a headline.
Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
For some reason, sas sas Squatch ties it together for me,
like I think this is fun. I'll totally go.
Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
I don't know, guys, it's a blast.
Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
You have so much Sasquatch doing something with bowling for.
Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Soup exactly right, and like he does the slow mosh
pit or the slow circle pits, like people just kind
of groove around and dance and do that. That's what
they did what I saw him live. It's pretty fun
because like we got a Migo the Devil, sex Squatch
bowling for soup. That's a lot of cheeky, fun good
times right there. And then with them Temptation to burn
it all down, So you know what, I'm happy with it.
Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
I like to think that he'll just randomly play the
Sax solo from Emergence.
Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Yeah. Oh, they have to ring Sax Squatch on that
stage with Sharon Denadell. They have to. There's no way
they wouldn't, right, and heck bring up Ego up there too.
You can play banjo for one of the songs. Who
cares he plays guitar. Also, it's fine for.
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Some reason, Amigo and within Tienation work for me. They're
both like that spooky dark just kind of different instruments,
and I like.
Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Guess, yeah, so you know what, And then Bowling for
Suit could just do fart jokes in the background. Yes,
that actually is appropriate for falling Pursuit.
Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
This is like the equivalent.
Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
This, this whole lineup is like the equivalent of getting
your buds together to watch a bad movie. But you
all know it's a bad movie, so you just get
like really drunk and just have fun with it.
Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Yeah, you know what, that's actually not a bad way
to put it. But you know something really cool is
gonna happen, like with the Temptation too, Like there's like
that one serious part yeah that everyone loves. So you
know what, not bad you fest appropriate for a holiday weekend.
So that being said, thank you guys so much for
tuning to us on this holiday week We knew about.
We know people were going to chew it in as much,
(01:01:45):
especially with the crazy stuff going on. Thank you for
sticking with us. We'll be back to our regular Senanigu's
next week also in December. Things to look forward to.
We will have our podcast whatever week it is when
we talk about the best and worst of twenty twenty five.
There's a lot, so it'll be nuts when we decide
to do that. We'll be talking about also getting our
(01:02:05):
list together, our favorite albums and songs of the year.
We'll do all the sun stuff on this channel. I'll
see if Alex and Rowan are also a part of
like just making their own list, because I want them
to get some attention to like at least it doesn't
have to be a countdown, but just like, get together
what your thoughts are because I want you guys give
your thoughts and opinions too on the podcast. So that
being said, I guess I could take it off. Sax
Watch by Sasquatch. Thank you for coming. I hope you
(01:02:28):
find your dad. There we go from It's from Elf.
There we go, Bye, buddy, hope you find dad. So
that being said, Alex, you have anything you would like to.
Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Add if you've not checked out the Pretty Wilds album
that dropped last Friday. It is super fun. I really
like it. Zero Point Genesis very good recommendation.
Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
It is fun too, like it's appropriate angry new metal fun,
like the good stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Yes, So like there, it's hard for me to get
like super excited about new albums. In this one, not
super excited, but I enjoyed every song, which is that's good.
I would definitely check it out.
Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Gotcha Rowan? How about you?
Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
Uh yeah, just because some people are pointing out so, no,
I'm not in another interrogation room. I don't know when
you would see like an interrogation room with pall hoops. Yeah,
I'm in my parents I'm in a den at my
parents place. But really this is where my brother practically lives.
That's where he sleeps. Not even choking. I started moving
(01:03:32):
into my new apartment today and just with the timing
with Thanksgiving, that's just been a little bit hectic. Really
still waiting on some stuff to actually get delivered there.
So I'm just out of my parents place. That's why
I'm on my laptop with this really crappy built in
camera and no. Yeah, like hopefully by next week I'll
be a much more like situated place.
Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
Really just been really hectics.
Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
But hey, if anyone lives near the Lower East Side
and would love to help me move, I'll buy you
beer and we.
Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Can listen to my no afterwards. That's an open invitation.
Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
It's a pretty sweet deal. Guys should check that out. Also,
if just reminder, thank you Heavy for sponsoring this podcast.
Black Friday's the biggest sale Heavies has all year. So
if you've ever produced with some Heavies, twenty five percent
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all year. So everything from the headphones and earbuds all
the way to the shells and the gaming mic and
(01:04:26):
all the smaller stuff too. Everything, So this is the
weekend to do it. Also, thank you guys so much
for checking things out. If you're on patroon of YouTube membership,
I'll say it one more time. You have a new
video waiting for you. It's a video people have been
asking for years and it's done now, So thank you
so much for tuning in. Leave comments. Let us know,
(01:04:46):
think about all the waters souno garbage because it's a lot. Alex,
last week's joke, what do you have this teme?
Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Remember it?
Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
So there you go. I got I spoiled it for
you because I knew what it was.
Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Oh, you ruined my spam joke. That's right.
Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Yeah, I ruined it.
Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Yeah, you have ruined it.
Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
Two weeks ago, no way, three weeks ago we had
the ultimate, we ultimate.
Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
Chat after a joke.
Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
So good, So yeah, my screwdriver, Steve.
Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
All right, Steve, Steve's in the chat. If you're ready,
it's time for another joke.
Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
We still got to make a hot mustard cocktail.
Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Oh gross, Why I forgot about that?
Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
Let me what was it?
Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
In peace?
Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
What was the name? That wasn't the name of it?
I know what you're talking about. Tropical tropical mustard, tropical monster,
Steve's tropical monster, half corpse lights served warm in Florida.
Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
Yeah, See, guys, this is what you do.
Speaker 4 (01:05:42):
You say, half a can of monster, half a cores,
pour that in then just leave it out in the
sun for six hours.
Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
You act like that happened in Florida. Did you act
like that has not happened before?
Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Honestly, it happens at a lot of Yeah, I say, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
It probably has. So it out. This is Alex because
because of.
Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Where we are in the US, we've obviously got Thanksgiving tomorrow.
Turkey is a big deal. And I used to be
addicted to Thanksgiving leftovers. But I finally quit cold turkey
yet enemy.
Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
Okay, that's that's worthy of. Like, that's not a full clap,
that's like a golf clap. Hangout there we go.
Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
So I think that was a nice, little peaceful joke
after our angry AI discussion. I think that's very fair.
Oh someone got a big lull nope, smiley face x
C D d D. Dang, it's someone's throwing actual turkeys
at you. Someone's throwing saxophones at.
Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
Actually wait, do you guys actually want to hear a
funny turkey story for no?
Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
Go for it?
Speaker 4 (01:07:02):
Uh turns out my dad told me this three days ago.
But uh, he was this is like when I was
like a really little kid. He was running along the
riverside one day and on the like on the road
was a turkey, like a big turkey corn to him,
and he was just trying to like show it away,
and it wasn't like looking at him. It was like
looking off into the horizon. So he picked up he
(01:07:24):
picked up a rock, threw it at the turkey to
hopefully scare it away. The turkey looks at the rock,
looks up my dad and then pivots its whole body
towards my dad, and my dad was like, Okay, I'm
not gonna mess with this turkey. He just runs in
the direction. So a turkey just sized up my dad
(01:07:45):
and scared him off.
Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
And that's how your dad learned you cannot win a
fight with a turkey.
Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
You should go pick and fights with turkey's in the
first place.
Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
I just love it the way he described it.
Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
It's like, you know, the turkey, this turkey looks at
the rocks side step and then you hear like boss
fight music.
Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
A little how far at the.
Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Bottom sounds like some wives tale Like this is why
you never pick a fight with a turkey, like one.
Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
Of those rock Yeah, imagine like having a dark soul
style fight with a turkey style.
Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Yeah. Someone, Well, someone's giving hearts. That's very kind. See
that's the appropriate kind of satisfaction we need on the
podcast That Rocked. Also, thank you guys so much. Steve's
we will see you next week. December is coming, lists
are coming, end of year shenanigans are coming, and hopefully
the AI apocalypse holds off until the end of the year.
(01:08:41):
Thank you everyone, I.
Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Mean, happy Thanksgiving everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
I mean thank happy Thanksgiving, Be thankful for what you got, everybody. Bye,
bye God, Say what you're thankful about while you still
have it, because it's gotta leave soon and be replaced
by Ai.
Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
Your dad lost turn he war, We lost the EMU war.
What the hell does that mean?
Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
What?
Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
What the hell is the emo?
Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
He's in Australia. No, no, he's Australia. That was anct
whole thing. Yeah yeah, yeah, it makes sense.
Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
Well no, I wouldn't, I mean even been no matter what,
getting near an emu.
Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
But that thing is like, that thing's bigger than me. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
For Thanksgiving we seat Friday emu.
Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
Have you ever seen like an emu? Orna is like
the size of a basketball.
Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Yeah, they're huge. Yeah yeah, geez, there we go. He
be serious. It's Los Angeles emos that Alex runs into.
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