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The Showgram continues with special guest hostJohn Paul on News Talk ten ten kids
doing drugs at concerts. There's abrand new idea. We'll get to that
in moments. Idea is a ShowgramFriday edition. Uh. You can text
us anytime seven ten ten phone linesfour one six eight seven two ten ten
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or Star Talk on Sell that Stareight two five five. Coming up after
two thirty. Online dating. Ihave never had to do this, and
I'm from a small town, soit's easy to know about who you're gonna
date. Even if it was ablind date, you still knew something about
them. Lots of people are movingtowards online dating and can give you really
good stories of how it's turned outfor them. However, there are some
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sex offenders with profiles. Does thatchange your thoughts? We'll get to that
after a two thirty. But first, about a year ago, just this
time of year, two people diedand thirteen were hospitalized because of drug use
at an EDM music fest. TheVeld Music Festival is set to return to
Downsview Park just around August. First, Now, if you've heard anything about
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the EDM culture raves and the typemusic, anything you've ever seen on TV.
You know that there is a druguse that takes place at those concerts,
and I don't think this is somethingwe have to say is brand new
to concerts. We could go backto Woodstock or you know, they were
screaming from the stage, don't takethe brown asset. That was three days
of piece of music back in Augustof nineteen sixty nine. So drug use
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at concerts, it's not really anythingnew. However, in Nova Scotia,
the Evolve Music Festival, which isalso an EDM festival, may actually be
in jeopardy because they tried it.Tried to provide drug kits for the kids,
and the drug kits would allow allthe kids to test their drugs to
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make sure that the drugs were safefor their consumption. They were actually the
drug they think they are actually taking. So the concert provider was actually trying
to provide this as a measure ofsafety for the kids. The challenge is
their insurance provider is backing out becausethey've basically said, look, if we're
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doing that, it condones drug use, and as an insurance company, we
want nothing to do with that.We don't want to condone drug use.
We don't want to provide these drugkits. That's not our business. We're
not into this. Meanwhile, weknow that coming up in August at Downsview
Park there's going to be an EDMFSand there's probably going to be drugs.
We know that right now it's notgoing to be a shock to many people.
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But if the insurance companies won't ensurethese events and the drug kits aren't
available, should we be shocked whentwo people die and thirteen people are sent
to hospitals? The question I havefor you this afternoon is this, who
is responsible? Is it the kidwho's going to the concert that should know,
they should know not to take drugsand that doesn't mean that they won't,
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right or is it more of acase that the concert goers should provide
that level of protection. Here's thekit, Here's how it tests the drugs.
Now you'll know if they're safe orthey're not safe. We're going to
tell you how the kids actually workhere in a moment. But here's the
question I want to post to youfour one, six, eight, seven
two ten ten Star talk on salethat's star eight two five five, or
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you can text us at seven tenten. Who's responsible? We protect our
kids? From everything else. Whenthey go skiing, they didn't use helmets
before, now they do. Playinghockey, lots more of lots more equipment
and rules now than ever before.We protect our kids in all these way.
Bikes, I didn't wear a bikehelmet, now I do. Car
seats. I didn't have a carseat, Now every kid has one.
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So we're starting to protect our kids. I feel this is a good move
because the kids can't protect themselves.Let's find out how the kids actually work.
Trip Project coordinator Lori Kuffner is withus, Laurie. I know these
drug kits. They're given, ifI understand correctly, to test the drugs
themselves, and they will tell theuser whether the drug is pure. Is
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that how it works? Almost Thereare a purity test kits available, but
they need a really specific scale.So the ones that we recommend people use
more regularly are they called a reagenttest, and it basically tests what the
most predominant substance is in a smallsample of the drug or the substance.
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So basically, you take a tinyamount of whatever it is, like a
small sample, you put it ona plate. There's a reagent test.
There's all these different chemicals that whendropped on the sample, it turns a
different color, and what the colorturns is a good indication of what the
predominant substances are. So it doesn'tgive a percentage breakdown, it doesn't give
all of the different substance that arein there, but it is a really
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good indication if there's something actually reallydangerous in the substance, or if it's
something entirely different than what the personthought that they were buying. Now,
I know you're tight on time,and I'm not a drug guy at all,
what kind of drugs would you betesting on these plates? Like what
would be the popular ones? Imean MDMA is this popular one right now?
Or molly or ecstasy or E orwhatever people want to call it.
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It's basically supposed to be MDMA.Sometimes people want it with a little bit
of speed so they can dance allday or all night. But oftentimes it's
cut with something or it's sold completelyas something entirely different. Often these new
chemicals or novel psychoactive substances that areyou know, very similar chemically to the
or what people are wanting to do, but sometimes kind have drastically different effects
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and reactions and can make people sickor have weird undesired effects when mixed with
alcohols for example, which is anotherthing that's you know, a big thing
at these musicccessibles. Sure, andit's just hard to really when you don't
know what you're taking. It's hardto know if the effects are normal,
or if you're having a bad reactionto something, or if you need medical
attention, or if you just needto sit down for a minute or what
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with us? Sorry sorry, LoriKufner's whether she's from Trip a project coordinator.
Let me ask you this, whenit comes to these tests for drugs,
in your experience, what is thelikelihood that a kid will actually use
it? Because that would be myconcern is you can provide it, but
if they're not smart enough to connectthe dots that they need to use it.
So in your experience, are ourkids open to this idea of using
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these tests? Oh yeah, definitely. A lot of people are mad at
us that we don't do it onsite at festivals, and you know,
we kind of have to say there'sa lot of reasons for that, which
I'm not going to get into rightnow. But the way that they're also
sold currently is in individual test kits, so you have to buy a kit
that includes forty or fifty Like enoughfor forty or fifty tests isn't cheap.
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So if people are only, youknow, using a drug a couple of
times a year, they're not goingto spend fifty dollars? Is that how
much they are? Fifty dollars?The full reagent kit is about sixty five
or seventy five dollars depending on whereyou're getting it from. And is that
like an individual reagents are twenty five? And can I get that at walmert
or the drug store? Where doI pick up one of these kids?
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Now, there's a retailer in theUS day Have Safe, so they're a
sister organization to a Trip. Theysell them online, and there's a Canadian
company called test kit Plus and theyalso sell them. And we are working
with a few different organizations that whenfolks contact us, then we can connect
them with a testing kit that theycan either buy online or pay in cash
in person, so there's no creditcard or a delivery address associated with it.
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Wow, I'm really trying to wrapmy head around this because I'm thinking
of the kid that's organized and responsibleenough to order or get one of these
kids, but still wants to dodrugs. It just seems it seems like
almost a contradiction. Well, no, people want to be safe. Nobody
is doing things to put themselves inharm. Yeah, but if they're that
responsible, would they just not sayno to drugs? I don't know.
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That's a whole other conversation for sure. No, And That's where I'm struggling
with it. May I think alot of drug users are responsible and want
to be healthy and want to havea good time and not end up in
the hospital. Are dead? Yeah, No, I'm with you, Laurie.
Thank you for explaining how they work. We appreciate it. Laurie Kuffner
from the Trip project coordinator, Weappreciate or joining us this afternoon. We're
going to ask you the question who'sresponsible the kids, the party, the
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project coordinators, are the concert coordinatorsor the concert promoters? Are they responsible?
How do we protect the kids usingthese drug tests? Are they good
to have or is it sending thewrong message? Four one, six,
eight, seven to ten ten startalk on sell that star eight two five
five. To get back to thewarning that I've received, you might take
it with how many, however manygrains of salt. You wish that the
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brown asset that is circulating around usis not specifically too good. It suggested
that you do stay away from that. Of course, it's your own trip,
so be my guests, but advisethat there is a warning on that
one. Okay, Woodstock August nineteensixty nine, we were advising everyone about
the brown asset. Take care ofyour trip. So we've been warning people
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since kids have been going to concerts. I mean Woodstock was nineteen sixty nine,
so this isn't new. And althoughmany of us probably are not into
EDM, that's probably not our bag, baby, that doesn't mean that this
isn't a real problem. If kidsare going to festivals, for example the
one at Downsview Park, the VeldMusic Festival, which is coming up in
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August. Just about a year ago, two people died and thirteen were hospitalized.
Are we to be providing better protectionfor our kids. We provide security
so if someone gets out of control, there's a security guard there to help
them out. We provide you know, the Saint John's ambulance or safety paramedics
that if someone falls and gets hurt, there's someone there to help them the
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drug kits? Is that something thatshould be mandatory for concert promoters to provide?
You know, obviously we wish thatthe kids would say no to drugs,
but I think we would be afool to say that that's going to
be the solution, because it's nodifferent than bike helmets. We would like
our kids to be safe on theirbikes. However, we know that twelve
year old boys do goofy stuff onbikes. We know that skiing downhill,
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we force them to wear more protectiveequipment than ten fifteen years ago. We
do that because we know kids makepoor choices once in a while, and
when they do, they have alevel of protection. So should these drug
kits that tell the kids whether thedrugs are safe or not safe for them
to take? Should we make itmandatory for the concert promoters to provide them.
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There is a concert promoter out eastin Nova Scotia that's trying to do
this and his insurance company is sayingno, no, no no. If
we do that, it promotes druguse. Where do you sit on this?
Four one, six, eight,seven, two ten ten star talk
on sell that's start eight two fivefive, or you can text your comments
at seven ten ten GLORYA. Youactually say you've been to one of these
events, I'm so old school,it's it's way past my bedtime. Tell
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us what you know. Yeah,I've been to actually one of the biggest
house music festivals in the world.It was in Belgium, and when I
was there, I was just sosurprised about how much they were educating the
people that were there, because you'regoing to go to these hussles and most
people are going to do drugs regardless, like you can't stop it. So
I was just so surprised at howthey're educating people on the drugs that were
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being passed around at the festival.So they were just showing you, like
what drugs are being passed around,which ones were good, which ones were
making people feel sick. So thatway you knew, like like if you
got a pill and it looks likethis one, then it would make you
feel good or it would make youfeel bad, and no one, no
one dies, one died. Wasthat like a like a billboard they had
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up or was it a video screenor was it like a booth where people
were actually using conversation talking back andforth. It was like like it was
like a tent. So like everywherethat you had like food tents, you
had one of these like drugs informationtents. And did you partake in drugs
when you were at this festival?Uh? Yeah, yeah, Well no,
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okay, you're not the first,you're not the only one. And
did you check out the booth beforeyou took the drugs? We did?
Yeah? And did that make youfeel better about it or did you feel
more confident? No? It mademe feel so much better about it because
I'm a like I'm not a druguser, so like just for me to
know, I didn't want anything badto happen to me while I was overseas,
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right, Yeah, No, okay, it's responsible of you, and
I appreciate your honesty. There's alot of people that might might not come
on here and be honest. Wouldyou use one of these drug testing kits
if you were at an event likethe Veld Music Festival? Yeah. And
the thing is that a lot ofpeople like going to these fossils. It's
their first time doing it because alot of people are curious about it,
you know, So like I thinktesting it is a good step forward to
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preventing a lot of people getting sick, people getting hostilized, and people dying
or people taking too much. Youjust really have to educate them to like
put a stop to all this glory. I appreciate your honesty and behalf of
your parents. I'm going to tellyou, don't use drugs. Use hugs
not drugs. Okay, all right, use hugs not drugs. See,
I'm trying to help people today.That's what I'm doing here. Uh,
it is the Showgram. I'm Johnpoul four one six, eight seven,
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two ten ten star talk on Sealthat's start eight two five five. We
want to know what you have tosay about this. Should the concert promoters
be providing these kids that allow thekids to test their drugs or is that
sending a message that says we wantdrug use? Joe, what's your thought
on this? Joe or no,Joe. I'm John, you're Joe,
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Joe, you have a take giveit to us. Yeah. I think
the kids are an absolutely great idea. I think, you know, I
think drugs that they're very controversial.Obviously they're pretty dangerous for you, you
cannot accuse them pretty easily. ButI'm all for people like experiencing something different,
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even a few times in their life. And if you go to a
music festival and you want to delveinto some drugs, well, I think
the most scary think is just notknowing where it's coming from and not knowing
it's safe. I've personally known friendsthinking that they're buying MDMA and it turned
out to be something completely different.They suspected it was like speed or something,
but it was They felt really sick, and you know that's that's just
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like a scary feeling. Have youused these sorts of drug drugs, Joe,
I have? I Like, likeI said, I don't abuse them.
I think I actually had some greatself control of them. But I
do like to delve into them everyonce in a while with like big events
such as like a music festival.And would you use one of these kids
to test the drugs before End WeLoved? I went to a festival just
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a few weeks ago, and youknow, I was nervous to take the
drug best for usual, because likejust that scared feeling, not knowing if
it's exactly what I wanted to be. And if I had a kid,
I would have used it for sure. Well, there you go. Joe
is a guy that's going to thefestival. He's saying, look, I'm
gonna be honest with you. I'musing the drugs and I would use this
kid to protect myself. I thinkthat's you know, that's a smart kid
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right there. That's someone being honestsaying, look, we got to protect
our So where do we stand onthis? Do we feel it should be
mandated, like a bicycle helmet ismandated. Should a concert have to have
these drug kits? That is thequestion. And I don't know if there's
an answer, but I think asa society, if we're protecting people,
we got to make sure that we'reproviding them the best education possible. And
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these kids certainly seem to be helpingout that way. Elaine, what are
your thoughts. I think it's agood idea. My grandfather way back,
he went to school at New EnglandSchool and he was taking chemistry. He
actually used to test the bath tubgin for the speakeasies during prohibition, so
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it's not new no, and yeah, and then he would tell all his
mates like which ones to go to, which ones not to go to,
and through recommendations and he did sucha good job. He ended up working
for Jack Daniel. There you go. See every story has a happy ending.
I like on the text seven ten, someone suggested, Hey, we're
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gonna go this far, why don'twe just set up a venue and sell
the drugs ourselves, throw a littletax on them, and then at least
we know they're safe. I actuallyhave not a posed to that idea.
To twenty four, Hey have youbeen on plenty of fish or match dot
com and you have found your mate? I need your help because I don't
get why people will do this.Do you know there's actually sex offenders on
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some of those sites? Does thatchange your search for love and how you
do it? We'll talk about thaton The Way Show Ram Friday edition.
I'm John poll In for Jim Richards, and we're hoping weird Al Yankovic will
call in. Our people have talkedto his people. I'm trying to apologize
it. Maybe it's possible. Havewe heard anything? Is there any response
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so far? Nothing? Crickets.It's possible he remembers and won't accept my
apology. We're on a weird Outwatch. We'll see if he calls in.
Straight ahead time for News Talk tento ten News with h Dave Show
Gram I'm John Polling for Jim Richardsin Moments on in Depth Radio News Talk
ten ten. I know there arelots of bad people out there, but
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when you're looking for love, sometimesyou let your guard down. We're gonna
try and keep you safe when itcomes to online dating. Straight ahead,
Jim Richards and the Show Gram ison with special guest host John Pole,
News Talk ten ten. I'd beafraid to date online. Oh that sounds
way too high tech for me.I wouldn't even know where to start.
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We're gonna talk about how to keepyou safe here in moments. I am
John pol It is a Friday,a gym is off today. It is
the Show Gram, Rainy and Blah. Our goal is to make this a
ten out of ten show. Ithink so far. You know, we
started out strong, maybe dipped abit. We're bringing it back up.
We're gonna get you to grade theshow later today, seven to ten,
ten, you know, scale ofone to ten. How do we do
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you're the audience, you're the onein charge. We'll let you decide.
Coming up after three o'clock. Vacations. A lot of us, when it
comes to vacation, are actually doingsome work while we're away and we don't
mind it. What is wrong withus? Do we learn nothing from the
go gos and the great Blinda Carlislewho taught us vacation all I ever wanted
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vacation had to get away. Vacationmeant to spend alone. Now we're staying
connected and doing work. We're gonnaget to that. We clearly have problems.
Why would you do that? There'speople on vacation right now. We'll
let them jump in. But first, online dating. This is from the
Hamilton Spectator. It's kind of anopinion piece from Nicole Reid, who is
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a fourth year student at McMaster Universityand she's doing a major injustice, political
philosophy and law. And her point, I think is a good one,
and I'm curious to see where yousit on this point, because when it
comes to dating online or really datinganywhere, obviously you always have to be
sort of careful who you're dating.There are bad people out there now doing
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bad things, and it's kind ofhard to know when you just meet them
on the surface. But online datingsometimes you can let your guard down a
little bit. There's but forty onemillion people that have tried online dating and
would you believe just under half arein fact women. They're looking for mister
right or mister wrong. Hopefully misterwright. Sometimes they're finding mister wrong.
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In the case of Nicole Reid andher piece of the Hamilton Spectator, her
question was there are sex offenders onthese dating sites. One of them,
Najem Kerazad, is a man classifiedas a serial rapist, and yes,
of course he's on the sex offenderlist. But our people that are meeting
people online or are they cross checking? Of course, the other problem with
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dating people online and sites like plentyof Fish ormatch dot com is you create
your profile, so maybe you don'tneed to tell the truth about everything.
Maybe your picture isn't even true,maybe your name is just a anonymous handle.
So how do you protect yourself online? Do you feel that some of
these dating sites, whether it bea match dot com or Plenty of Fish
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or whichever one you're using, doyou feel they should be required to have
someone required to fill out a boxare you a registered sex offender? And
again, I guess the problem iswe still don't know that they would.
But maybe if there's a box thatputs a little bit more pressure on people
to go, maybe this place isn'tfor me. Certainly. When it comes
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to dating sites, there's really thewhole gamut. There's a cougar Life dot
com for people looking for older women, the koogs, as a young kids
say, there's what's that one AshleyMadison's for people that are married that are
looking for affairs. There's plenty offish. There's even one I can't even
believe this, inmates connect dot com, which connects you with inmates, Like
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who would even sign up for that? That disturbs me on a huge level.
But when it comes to internet dating, you know, I'm from the
old school. I live in asmall town, so dating was simple.
When you knew you were going ona date, even if it was a
blind date, you could find outsomething about the person cross reference, find
out if they're a good dude ora nice lady or whatever. So it
wasn't secret. In the big city, it's much difficult, much more difficult.
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Lots of people are using online dating. It makes my head spin.
Forty four million people, half arewomen. So how do you protect yourself?
Do we make it some sort oflaw that these sites need to provide
more information so that the users canget a better feel for each other or
is it just you know, letthe buyer beware, get out there and
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do your best, and you know, do your own investigation on the people.
How do you do that of yourdating? How do you know if
there's a sexual offender? How doyou know you're not afraid? What are
the tricks you're using? Let's sharesome of them. If you're you've been
successful in online dating, I'd becurious our phone number four one six,
eight, seven, two ten tenstar talk on Sell that Star eight two
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five five, or you can textus at seven ten ten. To me,
online dating is scary, but Iknow there's lots of people that it's
just it's just how you do itthese days, it's not scary. In
fact, some people argue it's evenbetter because you get to know the person
before you actually have to meet them, so some of the pressure is actually
off. I want to get yourfeedback on this. Four one six eight,
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seven two ten ten star talk onSell That Star eight two five five.
Should dating sites be required to makesomeone let you know that they're on
these sexual offenders list, which wedon't know that they will, so maybe
they would have to do something withtechnology in there that would cross reference in
a bit to keep people safe?Or is it just hey, let the
buyer beware. Uh? Is itJacques or Jackie calling Jack John? Jack?
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All right? What's your take onthe providers for online dating? Who's
responsible here? Is that the peoplejust trying to hook up they got to
do the research on each other?Or should the provider that's connecting them get
involved? Jha is better to beaware? You know, I have to
eat. I met man, havetwo pen the fish and we've been together
five years. The best thing Iever did. You know it took a
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while. You have to do yourhomework. You got to ask questions when
you're online. Uh, I havethe questions because I have plenty of fish.
You can it's you can ask yourquestions. You're you're directly with the
person you're with and you basically yougot to ask the right questions. You
gotta take your time. You can'trush if a person wants to rush you
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to meet, you know, Islow down, cowboy. You know we
we we got a lot to talkabout. And uh, you know what
person take notes? Uh? Youknow, do you do like I said,
do you a little bit of homework? Uh? Take your time.
There's no rush. You want tomeet your partner for life, then you
got you got a long time,you know to do this. So Jacques,
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let me ask you this. Youmet your wife on plenty of fish.
How much interaction did you have beforeyou actually met her face to face?
Like? How many emails is that? Oh my god? We were
online seven hours a dairy for aweek. Wow, there wouldn't be much
left to ask. I'm talking abouteverything and everything, and when we finally
met, what I did as Ibrought every piece of ID, my career,
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my every diploma I got because wetalked about it, and I did
it a kind of like a fifteento twenty minute presentation for my trunk.
You're right, you're telling me onthe first time you met your wife,
you did like a full on PowerPointpresentation about your life to give her the
goods exactly because her family said,well, it may be a senior,
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you may be a seriant of Killer, and I said, well you may
be a black widow. I don'tknow. I start getting a full on
presentation, I might be more concerned. You're always trying to tell me something.
Was there one thing that you thoughtabout your wife? That turned out
to be not true anything at allthat you were surprised or she lied about.
She's the most gassing, honest personyou've ever wanted to meet, and
I've never to death. Well,I'm glad and I wish you a great
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weekend. Thanks for the call.It's two forty five Cottage Country, brought
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drive. Today. I'm looking atthe picture of this guy was featured in
the Hamilton Spectator and a piece byNicole Reid, now Jim Kerazad. He's
a man classified as a serial rapist. He has been found targeting Hamilton women
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on various dating sites. And ifyou saw his profile, he saw his
picture. He's a pretty good lookingdude. In two thousand and nine,
he pleaded guilty to the rape offour Hamilton women. And of course he's
on the sex offenders list, buthe's also on dating sites. This is
real. So who do we putin charge? Is it the person who's
dating? Is it let the buyerbeware you're going on one of these websites,
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cross your fingers, do your best. Or should we make the online
dating sites a little bit more responsiblein this. How do we protect all
parties? And maybe it's not possibleif you've been online dating, I'm curious
to get your feedback. Four one, six, eight, seven, two
ten ten. Start talk on cellor you can text us at seven ten
ten. Vicky, you've had goodor bad news when it comes to online
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dating? Vicky, are you hi? I'm sorry you cut out there.
Hi, John, great news forme. I met my husband ten years
ago online and we've been married foreight And similar to what Jacques had said
just previously, you know, buyerbeware. We spent a lot of time
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on the internet, just emailing backand forth. I made a point of
making sure I didn't give him myhome phone number that I gave him or
he gave me his home phone number, which I think is quite amusing.
If a man isn't prepared to giveyou his home phone number and only his
cell number, that's to me asa red flag. So we had probably
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a month of discussions before we met. We went for dinner, and you
know, the rest is history.As they say, did you ever think
to check the sex fender list across references name? Because I wouldn't think
many people would do. That didn'tcross my mind honestly today. I mean,
you know, ten years ago,you know the use of Google wasn't,
you know, as prominent as itis today. I would certainly if
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I was doing it today, Iwould certainly do a Google search and see
what comes up. But you knowyou have to you know, you have
to use common sense. Whether you'remeeting somebody you know in a park,
or in a bar, or atthe grocery store or online, you need
to use common sense. If you'regoing to meet somebody, you know,
always meet them in a public place, you know, making sure that you
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know your your best friend or yourmom or whoever it is, knows that
you're meeting somebody. I mean,you hear about women who you know give
men money. I would never thinkof giving somebody that I've only met money,
So, you know, it doescome down to some common sense.
Those are good tips. Was thereanything your husband lied about online that afterwards
you found out was in fact alie or was he honest? Well,
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he didn't tell me that I wouldhave the interior of Alexis in my basement,
let's put it that way. Butif a car guy is he he's
very much a car guy. No, what you know, he was up
front right from the beginning. Hedidn't do a PowerPoint presentation as Shock did,
but he was upfront. I methis family fairly early on, and
I think regardless, again, ifyou meet somebody online or otherwise, you
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know, families are good indicators.Friends are good indicators to who this person
is. If he has no friendsand you know he's you know, there's
things that don't feel right, itprobably isn't right. Vicki, thanks for
the call. It's interesting. We'vehad two great success stories ending in marriage,
so clearly online dating works. BothJacques and Vicki gave great tips.
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You know, take your time.That's probably a key indicator. If someone's
looking to rush things, that's probablytrouble right there. Make sure you do
a backyard on check Google, Facebookagain, sex registries not a bad place
to check out. I mean,I don't know, it seems weird that
you would do that, but again, it's just one little click. Can't
hurt to give it a try.I've never had to do online dating.
It would scare the Bejesus out ofme, it really would. But people
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are having great success with it.So Matt, how about you. What
do you think about online dating?Should the services provide a better level of
protection or is it up to theuser? Matt, yes, hey John,
how are you doing? Is itup to the users or should the
provider provide more safety for the users? I think it comes down to the
user. You know, by doingthose extra steps, you go ahead and
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do that from a dating site websiteperspective, but I don't think that that
will to your point earlier, isthat whether the people who are trying to
deceive you, they're not going tobe honest anyways, So it's best to
kind of set out the parameters anddo all the things that the previous callers
just mentioned in terms of cross referencingother social media. When I started doing
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it back in two thousand and twothousand and one, there wasn't you know,
there wasn't a Facebook, that typeof thing, and of course a
lot of people wouldn't admit that theywere doing online game back then, but
it was very much meeting public places. You know, you talk on the
phone, first, talk online messaging, m said, messenger back in the
day when it was popular that typeof thing, and and you know,
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from there, if there was agood vibe you did that public meeting and
like the other and it goes Iknow, we're putting a bit of a
slant on it from you know,the safety from a woman's perspective, but
it also goes the same way forguys because there may be well there may
be guys out there who are posingas women looking to get you to come
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out meet somewhere. They could jumpto you, they could be looking for
you don't know what they're looking for. If somebody's really out to do something
that they you know, there arethose types of setups that I've heard about
as well. I didn't encounter themmyself. Mine were great, similar to
the previous callers. I also metmy wife in two thousand and five.
We got married in twenty ten,have two kids. Now. Wow,
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fun The funny thing is is thatshe told her family that we met at
a gap station because somehow that wasbetter the meeting online. Back then,
well, certainly back then the stigmawas not as what it is today.
Because again we've just heard three callersin a row who have found the level
of their life and have been successfullymarried. Let me ask you this,
as a guy did, was itgood action on the online like, were
you easy? Was it easier topick up women online or more difficult than
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say a bar. I think itwas much easier actually, because you were
you got different types of people whoare looking for different things, you know,
the club scene or the bar scene. Obviously there's some stigmas attached to
that in terms of what what guysare looking for and what girls are looking
for when they go out to aclub or a bar and and whatnot.
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But at least from your meeting online, both people are there looking to meet
similar, similar ideas going in.So I found that it was much better
that way. And you can't justbe a carbon coffee every time. And
that's another thing. If you know, for girls or guys looking you're getting
a look like a cat doesn't sentto one hundred people. The chances are
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either guys you know up to nogood or their their dating calendar is pretty
full and they're just kind of riflingthrough different people, maybe looking for quick,
quick and not long term cool.Great advice, Matt, Thank you
very much for the call. Goodadvice. We're getting this. Andrea,
you've had a similar situation. Youfound out a guy had actually been charged
when you were searching about him.Tell us your story quickly. Oh,
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hi, I really liked this guy. He had like really great rapport with
him, and I was looking forwardto meeting him. The next day,
I was out with some girlfriends.I showed him his picture from Plenty of
Fish, and one of my friendssaid, oh, I know who that
guy is. And from that Iwas able to figure out his name.
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I googled him and found out thata couple Tronto Star articles he'd been charged
with rape. Wow, and wereyou shocked when you saw that? Oh
my god, like it's everybody's biggestfear. Did it deter you from using
this site again? Or did yougive it another got me from meeting him?
Did the drug and the drink right? Well, I assume that you
didn't meet him, But did youstill give the sight another attempt? Or
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did you I kind of I'm stillbeen on it, like this happened maybe
in April or May. Yeah,but the wind's gone out of my sales.
Put it that way. So you'resaying you're available, you know,
I kind of go on and Ilook, but I don't really bother meeting
anymore. All right, and Andrewis available for the weekend. Boys,
she's looking for love. Let's goto Neil. Who is Sarah. Let's
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go to Sarah here quickly. She'sdoing some tender action and seeing some clients
on it. That's got to beshocking. Sarah, tell us your tender
story quickly. So I decided totry Tinder, as you do when you're
you know, young and trying outall the different stuff. And I was
going through Tinder, and you know, I thought it was kind of fun.
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It's kind of like a game.Tender is for those who don't know.
Tinder is where you see the pictureand you swipe one way if you
like them, and if they swipethe same way, you can talk.
Go ahead. Yeah, exactly.So I was swiping away and I start
to come across some of my clients. So I work in social services,
and it freaked me out a littlebit. And you know what, everyone
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deserves love, everyone deserves a chance. But when you start seeing clients of
your own or previous clients or thingslike that, it just got a little
too much. I believe that,And thanks for the call. I guess
the lesson here is, look,do your research, take your time,
don't rush. But some good successstories dating online it's two fifty six.
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If you're on vacation right now,please please please call and tell me if
you've been calling the office and checkingin. I hope not. I wish
you would just rest up a lotof people checking in at the office.
Why. We'll tell you on theway our weird aw watch continues. It's
all looking good. I may haveto apologize to him. Maybe he's waiting
for the on air apology. Hedoesn't want it voice to voice over the
(34:59):
phone. I will apologize to himbefore four o'clock and get ready to brag.
It's a Friday. Let's brag aboutstuff that's going on good in our
lives. And we'll tell you aboutthat straight ahead. We appreciate that it
is the shogram, it is aFriday, and of all the things in
the world you could be doing,you're spending your time with us. Let
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me say on behalf of the entireBelt media staff, from the guy who
parks the cars to the guy atthe top, thank you. Thank you.
The Showgram continues with special guest hostJohn Paul on News Talk ten ten kids
doing drugs at concerts. There's abrand new idea. We'll get to that
in moments. Idea is a ShowgramFriday edition. Uh. You can text
us anytime seven ten ten phone linesfour one six eight seven two ten ten
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or Star Talk on Sell that Stareight two five five. Coming up after
two thirty. Online dating. Ihave never had to do this, and
I'm from a small town, soit's easy to know about who you're gonna
date. Even if it was ablind date, you still knew something about
them. Lots of people are movingtowards online dating and can give you really
good stories of how it's turned outfor them. However, there are some
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sex offenders with profiles. Does thatchange your thoughts? We'll get to that
after a two thirty. But first, about a year ago, just this
time of year, two people diedand thirteen were hospitalized because of drug use
at an EDM music fest. TheVeld Music Festival is set to return to
Downsview Park just around August. First, Now, if you've heard anything about
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the EDM culture raves and the typemusic, anything you've ever seen on TV.
You know that there is a druguse that takes place at those concerts,
and I don't think this is somethingwe have to say is brand new
to concerts. We could go backto Woodstock or you know, they were
screaming from the stage, don't takethe brown asset. That was three days
of piece of music back in Augustof nineteen sixty nine. So drug use
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at concerts, it's not really anythingnew. However, in Nova Scotia,
the Evolve Music Festival, which isalso an EDM festival, may actually be
in jeopardy because they tried it.Tried to provide drug kits for the kids,
and the drug kits would allow allthe kids to test their drugs to
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make sure that the drugs were safefor their consumption. They were actually the
drug they think they are actually taking. So the concert provider was actually trying
to provide this as a measure ofsafety for the kids. The challenge is
their insurance provider is backing out becausethey've basically said, look, if we're
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doing that, it condones drug use, and as an insurance company, we
want nothing to do with that.We don't want to condone drug use.
We don't want to provide these drugkits. That's not our business. We're
not into this. Meanwhile, weknow that coming up in August at Downsview
Park there's going to be an EDMFSand there's probably going to be drugs.
We know that right now it's notgoing to be a shock to many people.
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But if the insurance companies won't ensurethese events and the drug kits aren't
available, should we be shocked whentwo people die and thirteen people are sent
to hospitals? The question I havefor you this afternoon is this, who
is responsible? Is it the kidwho's going to the concert that should know,
they should know not to take drugsand that doesn't mean that they won't,
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right or is it more of acase that the concert goers should provide
that level of protection. Here's thekit, Here's how it tests the drugs.
Now you'll know if they're safe orthey're not safe. We're going to
tell you how the kids actually workhere in a moment. But here's the
question I want to post to youfour one, six, eight, seven
two ten ten Star talk on salethat's star eight two five five, or
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you can text us at seven tenten. Who's responsible? We protect our
kids? From everything else. Whenthey go skiing, they didn't use helmets
before, now they do. Playinghockey, lots more of lots more equipment
and rules now than ever before.We protect our kids in all these way.
Bikes, I didn't wear a bikehelmet, now I do. Car
seats. I didn't have a carseat, Now every kid has one.
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So we're starting to protect our kids. I feel this is a good move
because the kids can't protect themselves.Let's find out how the kids actually work.
Trip Project coordinator Lori Kuffner is withus, Laurie. I know these
drug kits. They're given, ifI understand correctly, to test the drugs
themselves, and they will tell theuser whether the drug is pure. Is
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that how it works? Almost Thereare a purity test kits available, but
they need a really specific scale.So the ones that we recommend people use
more regularly are they called a reagenttest, and it basically tests what the
most predominant substance is in a smallsample of the drug or the substance.
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So basically, you take a tinyamount of whatever it is, like a
small sample, you put it ona plate. There's a reagent test.
There's all these different chemicals that whendropped on the sample, it turns a
different color, and what the colorturns is a good indication of what the
predominant substances are. So it doesn'tgive a percentage breakdown, it doesn't give
all of the different substance that arein there, but it is a really
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good indication if there's something actually reallydangerous in the substance, or if it's
something entirely different than what the personthought that they were buying. Now,
I know you're tight on time,and I'm not a drug guy at all,
what kind of drugs would you betesting on these plates? Like what
would be the popular ones? Imean MDMA is this popular one right now?
Or molly or ecstasy or E orwhatever people want to call it.
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It's basically supposed to be MDMA.Sometimes people want it with a little bit
of speed so they can dance allday or all night. But oftentimes it's
cut with something or it's sold completelyas something entirely different. Often these new
chemicals or novel psychoactive substances that areyou know, very similar chemically to the
or what people are wanting to do, but sometimes kind have drastically different effects
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and reactions and can make people sickor have weird undesired effects when mixed with
alcohols for example, which is anotherthing that's you know, a big thing
at these musicccessibles. Sure, andit's just hard to really when you don't
know what you're taking. It's hardto know if the effects are normal,
or if you're having a bad reactionto something, or if you need medical
attention, or if you just needto sit down for a minute or what
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with us? Sorry sorry, LoriKufner's whether she's from Trip a project coordinator.
Let me ask you this, whenit comes to these tests for drugs,
in your experience, what is thelikelihood that a kid will actually use
it? Because that would be myconcern is you can provide it, but
if they're not smart enough to connectthe dots that they need to use it.
So in your experience, are ourkids open to this idea of using
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these tests? Oh yeah, definitely. A lot of people are mad at
us that we don't do it onsite at festivals, and you know,
we kind of have to say there'sa lot of reasons for that, which
I'm not going to get into rightnow. But the way that they're also
sold currently is in individual test kits, so you have to buy a kit
that includes forty or fifty Like enoughfor forty or fifty tests isn't cheap.
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So if people are only, youknow, using a drug a couple of
times a year, they're not goingto spend fifty dollars? Is that how
much they are? Fifty dollars?The full reagent kit is about sixty five
or seventy five dollars depending on whereyou're getting it from. And is that
like an individual reagents are twenty five? And can I get that at walmert
or the drug store? Where doI pick up one of these kids?
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Now, there's a retailer in theUS day Have Safe, so they're a
sister organization to a Trip. Theysell them online, and there's a Canadian
company called test kit Plus and theyalso sell them. And we are working
with a few different organizations that whenfolks contact us, then we can connect
them with a testing kit that theycan either buy online or pay in cash
in person, so there's no creditcard or a delivery address associated with it.
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Wow, I'm really trying to wrapmy head around this because I'm thinking
of the kid that's organized and responsibleenough to order or get one of these
kids, but still wants to dodrugs. It just seems it seems like
almost a contradiction. Well, no, people want to be safe. Nobody
is doing things to put themselves inharm. Yeah, but if they're that
responsible, would they just not sayno to drugs? I don't know.
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That's a whole other conversation for sure. No, And That's where I'm struggling
with it. May I think alot of drug users are responsible and want
to be healthy and want to havea good time and not end up in
the hospital. Are dead? Yeah, No, I'm with you, Laurie.
Thank you for explaining how they work. We appreciate it. Laurie Kuffner
from the Trip project coordinator, Weappreciate or joining us this afternoon. We're
going to ask you the question who'sresponsible the kids, the party, the
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project coordinators, are the concert coordinatorsor the concert promoters? Are they responsible?
How do we protect the kids usingthese drug tests? Are they good
to have or is it sending thewrong message? Four one, six,
eight, seven to ten ten startalk on sell that star eight two five
five. To get back to thewarning that I've received, you might take
it with how many, however manygrains of salt. You wish that the
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brown asset that is circulating around usis not specifically too good. It suggested
that you do stay away from that. Of course, it's your own trip,
so be my guests, but advisethat there is a warning on that
one. Okay, Woodstock August nineteensixty nine, we were advising everyone about
the brown asset. Take care ofyour trip. So we've been warning people
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since kids have been going to concerts. I mean Woodstock was nineteen sixty nine,
so this isn't new. And althoughmany of us probably are not into
EDM, that's probably not our bag, baby, that doesn't mean that this
isn't a real problem. If kidsare going to festivals, for example the
one at Downsview Park, the VeldMusic Festival, which is coming up in
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August. Just about a year ago, two people died and thirteen were hospitalized.
Are we to be providing better protectionfor our kids. We provide security
so if someone gets out of control, there's a security guard there to help
them out. We provide you know, the Saint John's ambulance or safety paramedics
that if someone falls and gets hurt, there's someone there to help them the
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drug kits? Is that something thatshould be mandatory for concert promoters to provide?
You know, obviously we wish thatthe kids would say no to drugs,
but I think we would be afool to say that that's going to
be the solution, because it's nodifferent than bike helmets. We would like
our kids to be safe on theirbikes. However, we know that twelve
year old boys do goofy stuff onbikes. We know that skiing downhill,
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we force them to wear more protectiveequipment than ten fifteen years ago. We
do that because we know kids makepoor choices once in a while, and
when they do, they have alevel of protection. So should these drug
kits that tell the kids whether thedrugs are safe or not safe for them
to take? Should we make itmandatory for the concert promoters to provide them.
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There is a concert promoter out eastin Nova Scotia that's trying to do
this and his insurance company is sayingno, no, no no. If
we do that, it promotes druguse. Where do you sit on this?
Four one, six, eight,seven, two ten ten star talk
on sell that's start eight two fivefive, or you can text your comments
at seven ten ten GLORYA. Youactually say you've been to one of these
events, I'm so old school,it's it's way past my bedtime. Tell
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us what you know. Yeah,I've been to actually one of the biggest
house music festivals in the world.It was in Belgium, and when I
was there, I was just sosurprised about how much they were educating the
people that were there, because you'regoing to go to these hussles and most
people are going to do drugs regardless, like you can't stop it. So
I was just so surprised at howthey're educating people on the drugs that were
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being passed around at the festival.So they were just showing you, like
what drugs are being passed around,which ones were good, which ones were
making people feel sick. So thatway you knew, like like if you
got a pill and it looks likethis one, then it would make you
feel good or it would make youfeel bad, and no one, no
one dies, one died. Wasthat like a like a billboard they had
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up or was it a video screenor was it like a booth where people
were actually using conversation talking back andforth. It was like like it was
like a tent. So like everywherethat you had like food tents, you
had one of these like drugs informationtents. And did you partake in drugs
when you were at this festival?Uh? Yeah, yeah, Well no,
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okay, you're not the first,you're not the only one. And
did you check out the booth beforeyou took the drugs? We did?
Yeah? And did that make youfeel better about it or did you feel
more confident? No? It mademe feel so much better about it because
I'm a like I'm not a druguser, so like just for me to
know, I didn't want anything badto happen to me while I was overseas,
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right, Yeah, No, okay, it's responsible of you, and
I appreciate your honesty. There's alot of people that might might not come
on here and be honest. Wouldyou use one of these drug testing kits
if you were at an event likethe Veld Music Festival? Yeah. And
the thing is that a lot ofpeople like going to these fossils. It's
their first time doing it because alot of people are curious about it,
you know, So like I thinktesting it is a good step forward to
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preventing a lot of people getting sick, people getting hostilized, and people dying
or people taking too much. Youjust really have to educate them to like
put a stop to all this glory. I appreciate your honesty and behalf of
your parents. I'm going to tellyou, don't use drugs. Use hugs
not drugs. Okay, all right, use hugs not drugs. See,
I'm trying to help people today.That's what I'm doing here. Uh,
it is the Showgram. I'm Johnpoul four one six, eight seven,
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two ten ten star talk on Sealthat's start eight two five five. We
want to know what you have tosay about this. Should the concert promoters
be providing these kids that allow thekids to test their drugs or is that
sending a message that says we wantdrug use? Joe, what's your thought
on this? Joe or no,Joe. I'm John, you're Joe,
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Joe, you have a take giveit to us. Yeah. I think
the kids are an absolutely great idea. I think, you know, I
think drugs that they're very controversial.Obviously they're pretty dangerous for you, you
cannot accuse them pretty easily. ButI'm all for people like experiencing something different,
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even a few times in their life. And if you go to a
music festival and you want to delveinto some drugs, well, I think
the most scary think is just notknowing where it's coming from and not knowing
it's safe. I've personally known friendsthinking that they're buying MDMA and it turned
out to be something completely different.They suspected it was like speed or something,
but it was They felt really sick, and you know that's that's just
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like a scary feeling. Have youused these sorts of drug drugs, Joe,
I have? I Like, likeI said, I don't abuse them.
I think I actually had some greatself control of them. But I
do like to delve into them everyonce in a while with like big events
such as like a music festival.And would you use one of these kids
to test the drugs before End WeLoved? I went to a festival just
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a few weeks ago, and youknow, I was nervous to take the
drug best for usual, because likejust that scared feeling, not knowing if
it's exactly what I wanted to be. And if I had a kid,
I would have used it for sure. Well, there you go. Joe
is a guy that's going to thefestival. He's saying, look, I'm
gonna be honest with you. I'musing the drugs and I would use this
kid to protect myself. I thinkthat's you know, that's a smart kid
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right there. That's someone being honestsaying, look, we got to protect
our So where do we stand onthis? Do we feel it should be
mandated, like a bicycle helmet ismandated. Should a concert have to have
these drug kits? That is thequestion. And I don't know if there's
an answer, but I think asa society, if we're protecting people,
we got to make sure that we'reproviding them the best education possible. And
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these kids certainly seem to be helpingout that way. Elaine, what are
your thoughts. I think it's agood idea. My grandfather way back,
he went to school at New EnglandSchool and he was taking chemistry. He
actually used to test the bath tubgin for the speakeasies during prohibition, so
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it's not new no, and yeah, and then he would tell all his
mates like which ones to go to, which ones not to go to,
and through recommendations and he did sucha good job. He ended up working
for Jack Daniel. There you go. See every story has a happy ending.
I like on the text seven ten, someone suggested, Hey, we're
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gonna go this far, why don'twe just set up a venue and sell
the drugs ourselves, throw a littletax on them, and then at least
we know they're safe. I actuallyhave not a posed to that idea.
To twenty four, Hey have youbeen on plenty of fish or match dot
com and you have found your mate? I need your help because I don't
get why people will do this.Do you know there's actually sex offenders on
(16:22):
some of those sites? Does thatchange your search for love and how you
do it? We'll talk about thaton The Way Show Ram Friday edition.
I'm John poll In for Jim Richards, and we're hoping weird Al Yankovic will
call in. Our people have talkedto his people. I'm trying to apologize
it. Maybe it's possible. Havewe heard anything? Is there any response
(16:44):
so far? Nothing? Crickets.It's possible he remembers and won't accept my
apology. We're on a weird Outwatch. We'll see if he calls in.
Straight ahead time for News Talk tento ten News with h Dave Show
Gram I'm John Polling for Jim Richardsin Moments on in Depth Radio News Talk
ten ten. I know there arelots of bad people out there, but
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when you're looking for love, sometimesyou let your guard down. We're gonna
try and keep you safe when itcomes to online dating. Straight ahead,
Jim Richards and the Show Gram ison with special guest host John Pole,
News Talk ten ten. I'd beafraid to date online. Oh that sounds
way too high tech for me.I wouldn't even know where to start.
(17:30):
We're gonna talk about how to keepyou safe here in moments. I am
John pol It is a Friday,a gym is off today. It is
the Show Gram, Rainy and Blah. Our goal is to make this a
ten out of ten show. Ithink so far. You know, we
started out strong, maybe dipped abit. We're bringing it back up.
We're gonna get you to grade theshow later today, seven to ten,
ten, you know, scale ofone to ten. How do we do
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you're the audience, you're the onein charge. We'll let you decide.
Coming up after three o'clock. Vacations. A lot of us, when it
comes to vacation, are actually doingsome work while we're away and we don't
mind it. What is wrong withus? Do we learn nothing from the
go gos and the great Blinda Carlislewho taught us vacation all I ever wanted
(18:15):
vacation had to get away. Vacationmeant to spend alone. Now we're staying
connected and doing work. We're gonnaget to that. We clearly have problems.
Why would you do that? There'speople on vacation right now. We'll
let them jump in. But first, online dating. This is from the
Hamilton Spectator. It's kind of anopinion piece from Nicole Reid, who is
(18:36):
a fourth year student at McMaster Universityand she's doing a major injustice, political
philosophy and law. And her point, I think is a good one,
and I'm curious to see where yousit on this point, because when it
comes to dating online or really datinganywhere, obviously you always have to be
sort of careful who you're dating.There are bad people out there now doing
(19:00):
bad things, and it's kind ofhard to know when you just meet them
on the surface. But online datingsometimes you can let your guard down a
little bit. There's but forty onemillion people that have tried online dating and
would you believe just under half arein fact women. They're looking for mister
right or mister wrong. Hopefully misterwright. Sometimes they're finding mister wrong.
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In the case of Nicole Reid andher piece of the Hamilton Spectator, her
question was there are sex offenders onthese dating sites. One of them,
Najem Kerazad, is a man classifiedas a serial rapist, and yes,
of course he's on the sex offenderlist. But our people that are meeting
people online or are they cross checking? Of course, the other problem with
(19:45):
dating people online and sites like plentyof Fish ormatch dot com is you create
your profile, so maybe you don'tneed to tell the truth about everything.
Maybe your picture isn't even true,maybe your name is just a anonymous handle.
So how do you protect yourself online? Do you feel that some of
these dating sites, whether it bea match dot com or Plenty of Fish
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or whichever one you're using, doyou feel they should be required to have
someone required to fill out a boxare you a registered sex offender? And
again, I guess the problem iswe still don't know that they would.
But maybe if there's a box thatputs a little bit more pressure on people
to go, maybe this place isn'tfor me. Certainly. When it comes
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to dating sites, there's really thewhole gamut. There's a cougar Life dot
com for people looking for older women, the koogs, as a young kids
say, there's what's that one AshleyMadison's for people that are married that are
looking for affairs. There's plenty offish. There's even one I can't even
believe this, inmates connect dot com, which connects you with inmates, Like
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who would even sign up for that? That disturbs me on a huge level.
But when it comes to internet dating, you know, I'm from the
old school. I live in asmall town, so dating was simple.
When you knew you were going ona date, even if it was a
blind date, you could find outsomething about the person cross reference, find
out if they're a good dude ora nice lady or whatever. So it
wasn't secret. In the big city, it's much difficult, much more difficult.
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Lots of people are using online dating. It makes my head spin.
Forty four million people, half arewomen. So how do you protect yourself?
Do we make it some sort oflaw that these sites need to provide
more information so that the users canget a better feel for each other or
is it just you know, letthe buyer beware, get out there and
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do your best, and you know, do your own investigation on the people.
How do you do that of yourdating? How do you know if
there's a sexual offender? How doyou know you're not afraid? What are
the tricks you're using? Let's sharesome of them. If you're you've been
successful in online dating, I'd becurious our phone number four one six,
eight, seven, two ten tenstar talk on Sell that Star eight two
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five five, or you can textus at seven ten ten. To me,
online dating is scary, but Iknow there's lots of people that it's
just it's just how you do itthese days, it's not scary. In
fact, some people argue it's evenbetter because you get to know the person
before you actually have to meet them, so some of the pressure is actually
off. I want to get yourfeedback on this. Four one six eight,
(22:17):
seven two ten ten star talk onSell That Star eight two five five.
Should dating sites be required to makesomeone let you know that they're on
these sexual offenders list, which wedon't know that they will, so maybe
they would have to do something withtechnology in there that would cross reference in
a bit to keep people safe?Or is it just hey, let the
buyer beware. Uh? Is itJacques or Jackie calling Jack John? Jack?
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All right? What's your take onthe providers for online dating? Who's
responsible here? Is that the peoplejust trying to hook up they got to
do the research on each other?Or should the provider that's connecting them get
involved? Jha is better to beaware? You know, I have to
eat. I met man, havetwo pen the fish and we've been together
five years. The best thing Iever did. You know it took a
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while. You have to do yourhomework. You got to ask questions when
you're online. Uh, I havethe questions because I have plenty of fish.
You can it's you can ask yourquestions. You're you're directly with the
person you're with and you basically yougot to ask the right questions. You
gotta take your time. You can'trush if a person wants to rush you
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to meet, you know, Islow down, cowboy. You know we
we we got a lot to talkabout. And uh, you know what
person take notes? Uh? Youknow, do you do like I said,
do you a little bit of homework? Uh? Take your time.
There's no rush. You want tomeet your partner for life, then you
got you got a long time,you know to do this. So Jacques,
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let me ask you this. Youmet your wife on plenty of fish.
How much interaction did you have beforeyou actually met her face to face?
Like? How many emails is that? Oh my god? We were
online seven hours a dairy for aweek. Wow, there wouldn't be much
left to ask. I'm talking abouteverything and everything, and when we finally
met, what I did as Ibrought every piece of ID, my career,
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my every diploma I got because wetalked about it, and I did
it a kind of like a fifteento twenty minute presentation for my trunk.
You're right, you're telling me onthe first time you met your wife,
you did like a full on PowerPointpresentation about your life to give her the
goods exactly because her family said,well, it may be a senior,
(24:33):
you may be a seriant of Killer, and I said, well you may
be a black widow. I don'tknow. I start getting a full on
presentation, I might be more concerned. You're always trying to tell me something.
Was there one thing that you thoughtabout your wife? That turned out
to be not true anything at allthat you were surprised or she lied about.
She's the most gassing, honest personyou've ever wanted to meet, and
I've never to death. Well,I'm glad and I wish you a great
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weekend. Thanks for the call.It's two forty five Cottage Country, brought
to you by your Ontario Subaru dealers. Experience the safety of affordable all wheel
drive. Today. I'm looking atthe picture of this guy was featured in
the Hamilton Spectator and a piece byNicole Reid, now Jim Kerazad. He's
a man classified as a serial rapist. He has been found targeting Hamilton women
(25:21):
on various dating sites. And ifyou saw his profile, he saw his
picture. He's a pretty good lookingdude. In two thousand and nine,
he pleaded guilty to the rape offour Hamilton women. And of course he's
on the sex offenders list, buthe's also on dating sites. This is
real. So who do we putin charge? Is it the person who's
dating? Is it let the buyerbeware you're going on one of these websites,
(25:44):
cross your fingers, do your best. Or should we make the online
dating sites a little bit more responsiblein this. How do we protect all
parties? And maybe it's not possibleif you've been online dating, I'm curious
to get your feedback. Four one, six, eight, seven, two
ten ten. Start talk on cellor you can text us at seven ten
ten. Vicky, you've had goodor bad news when it comes to online
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dating? Vicky, are you hi? I'm sorry you cut out there.
Hi, John, great news forme. I met my husband ten years
ago online and we've been married foreight And similar to what Jacques had said
just previously, you know, buyerbeware. We spent a lot of time
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on the internet, just emailing backand forth. I made a point of
making sure I didn't give him myhome phone number that I gave him or
he gave me his home phone number, which I think is quite amusing.
If a man isn't prepared to giveyou his home phone number and only his
cell number, that's to me asa red flag. So we had probably
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a month of discussions before we met. We went for dinner, and you
know, the rest is history.As they say, did you ever think
to check the sex fender list across references name? Because I wouldn't think
many people would do. That didn'tcross my mind honestly today. I mean,
you know, ten years ago,you know the use of Google wasn't,
you know, as prominent as itis today. I would certainly if
(27:12):
I was doing it today, Iwould certainly do a Google search and see
what comes up. But you knowyou have to you know, you have
to use common sense. Whether you'remeeting somebody you know in a park,
or in a bar, or atthe grocery store or online, you need
to use common sense. If you'regoing to meet somebody, you know,
always meet them in a public place, you know, making sure that you
(27:37):
know your your best friend or yourmom or whoever it is, knows that
you're meeting somebody. I mean,you hear about women who you know give
men money. I would never thinkof giving somebody that I've only met money,
So, you know, it doescome down to some common sense.
Those are good tips. Was thereanything your husband lied about online that afterwards
you found out was in fact alie or was he honest? Well,
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he didn't tell me that I wouldhave the interior of Alexis in my basement,
let's put it that way. Butif a car guy is he he's
very much a car guy. No, what you know, he was up
front right from the beginning. Hedidn't do a PowerPoint presentation as Shock did,
but he was upfront. I methis family fairly early on, and
I think regardless, again, ifyou meet somebody online or otherwise, you
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know, families are good indicators.Friends are good indicators to who this person
is. If he has no friendsand you know he's you know, there's
things that don't feel right, itprobably isn't right. Vicki, thanks for
the call. It's interesting. We'vehad two great success stories ending in marriage,
so clearly online dating works. BothJacques and Vicki gave great tips.
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You know, take your time.That's probably a key indicator. If someone's
looking to rush things, that's probablytrouble right there. Make sure you do
a backyard on check Google, Facebookagain, sex registries not a bad place
to check out. I mean,I don't know, it seems weird that
you would do that, but again, it's just one little click. Can't
hurt to give it a try.I've never had to do online dating.
It would scare the Bejesus out ofme, it really would. But people
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are having great success with it.So Matt, how about you. What
do you think about online dating?Should the services provide a better level of
protection or is it up to theuser? Matt, yes, hey John,
how are you doing? Is itup to the users or should the
provider provide more safety for the users? I think it comes down to the
user. You know, by doingthose extra steps, you go ahead and
(29:30):
do that from a dating site websiteperspective, but I don't think that that
will to your point earlier, isthat whether the people who are trying to
deceive you, they're not going tobe honest anyways, So it's best to
kind of set out the parameters anddo all the things that the previous callers
just mentioned in terms of cross referencingother social media. When I started doing
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it back in two thousand and twothousand and one, there wasn't you know,
there wasn't a Facebook, that typeof thing, and of course a
lot of people wouldn't admit that theywere doing online game back then, but
it was very much meeting public places. You know, you talk on the
phone, first, talk online messaging, m said, messenger back in the
day when it was popular that typeof thing, and and you know,
(30:12):
from there, if there was agood vibe you did that public meeting and
like the other and it goes Iknow, we're putting a bit of a
slant on it from you know,the safety from a woman's perspective, but
it also goes the same way forguys because there may be well there may
be guys out there who are posingas women looking to get you to come
(30:32):
out meet somewhere. They could jumpto you, they could be looking for
you don't know what they're looking for. If somebody's really out to do something
that they you know, there arethose types of setups that I've heard about
as well. I didn't encounter themmyself. Mine were great, similar to
the previous callers. I also metmy wife in two thousand and five.
We got married in twenty ten,have two kids. Now. Wow,
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fun The funny thing is is thatshe told her family that we met at
a gap station because somehow that wasbetter the meeting online. Back then,
well, certainly back then the stigmawas not as what it is today.
Because again we've just heard three callersin a row who have found the level
of their life and have been successfullymarried. Let me ask you this,
as a guy did, was itgood action on the online like, were
you easy? Was it easier topick up women online or more difficult than
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say a bar. I think itwas much easier actually, because you were
you got different types of people whoare looking for different things, you know,
the club scene or the bar scene. Obviously there's some stigmas attached to
that in terms of what what guysare looking for and what girls are looking
for when they go out to aclub or a bar and and whatnot.
(31:40):
But at least from your meeting online, both people are there looking to meet
similar, similar ideas going in.So I found that it was much better
that way. And you can't justbe a carbon coffee every time. And
that's another thing. If you know, for girls or guys looking you're getting
a look like a cat doesn't sentto one hundred people. The chances are
(32:02):
either guys you know up to nogood or their their dating calendar is pretty
full and they're just kind of riflingthrough different people, maybe looking for quick,
quick and not long term cool.Great advice, Matt, Thank you
very much for the call. Goodadvice. We're getting this. Andrea,
you've had a similar situation. Youfound out a guy had actually been charged
when you were searching about him.Tell us your story quickly. Oh,
(32:23):
hi, I really liked this guy. He had like really great rapport with
him, and I was looking forwardto meeting him. The next day,
I was out with some girlfriends.I showed him his picture from Plenty of
Fish, and one of my friendssaid, oh, I know who that
guy is. And from that Iwas able to figure out his name.
(32:43):
I googled him and found out thata couple Tronto Star articles he'd been charged
with rape. Wow, and wereyou shocked when you saw that? Oh
my god, like it's everybody's biggestfear. Did it deter you from using
this site again? Or did yougive it another got me from meeting him?
Did the drug and the drink right? Well, I assume that you
didn't meet him, But did youstill give the sight another attempt? Or
(33:05):
did you I kind of I'm stillbeen on it, like this happened maybe
in April or May. Yeah,but the wind's gone out of my sales.
Put it that way. So you'resaying you're available, you know,
I kind of go on and Ilook, but I don't really bother meeting
anymore. All right, and Andrewis available for the weekend. Boys,
she's looking for love. Let's goto Neil. Who is Sarah. Let's
(33:28):
go to Sarah here quickly. She'sdoing some tender action and seeing some clients
on it. That's got to beshocking. Sarah, tell us your tender
story quickly. So I decided totry Tinder, as you do when you're
you know, young and trying outall the different stuff. And I was
going through Tinder, and you know, I thought it was kind of fun.
(33:50):
It's kind of like a game.Tender is for those who don't know.
Tinder is where you see the pictureand you swipe one way if you
like them, and if they swipethe same way, you can talk.
Go ahead. Yeah, exactly.So I was swiping away and I start
to come across some of my clients. So I work in social services,
and it freaked me out a littlebit. And you know what, everyone
(34:14):
deserves love, everyone deserves a chance. But when you start seeing clients of
your own or previous clients or thingslike that, it just got a little
too much. I believe that,And thanks for the call. I guess
the lesson here is, look,do your research, take your time,
don't rush. But some good successstories dating online it's two fifty six.
(34:34):
If you're on vacation right now,please please please call and tell me if
you've been calling the office and checkingin. I hope not. I wish
you would just rest up a lotof people checking in at the office.
Why. We'll tell you on theway our weird aw watch continues. It's
all looking good. I may haveto apologize to him. Maybe he's waiting
for the on air apology. Hedoesn't want it voice to voice over the
(34:59):
phone. I will apologize to himbefore four o'clock and get ready to brag.
It's a Friday. Let's brag aboutstuff that's going on good in our
lives. And we'll tell you aboutthat straight ahead. We appreciate that it
is the shogram, it is aFriday, and of all the things in
the world you could be doing,you're spending your time with us. Let
(35:19):
me say on behalf of the entireBelt media staff, from the guy who
parks the cars to the guy atthe top, thank you. Thank you.
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