December 04, 2023 (Hour 2)

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talking about horse radish. Do youknow that since the German preparation hit the

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market because it originated in Germany,several lab and human studies have found it's
effective as antibiotics and treating bronchitis earinfections. Gastro Intestinal illness is caused by
E. Coli contaminated food. GastroIntestinal illness is caused by food contaminated with
bacteria Staphylococcus aureus hemophilis influenza, whichtypically strikes children under the age of five.

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Yeah, nothing like a Remember yougo out and you have prime rib
and what do you put on it? Horse radish? Oh? There you
have it. Why you won't eatlike the buddy britz you use horse radish?
Yeah, also good for treating pneumoniasinus itis. Hey, trust me,
you get a good shot of thathorse radish. Anybody that's taking horse

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radish when you got stuffed up edclears it out real quick, doesn't It
also good for strep throat and otherserious illness is caused by Streptococcus pyogenes such
as cellulitis and pottago and scarlet feverand uties as well. Now, for
those of you who obviously if youhave secondary health insurance out there, many

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of you do, I figure theinsurance companies are in control of the game
as well, especially now that weknow that one in ten US doctors are
affiliated with United Healthcare. Yeah,the United Health Group now employees staggering ten
percent of all American physicians ninety thousanddoctors across the country and its networks.

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They are on track to eclipse fourhundred billion next year in revenue. Wow.
United Health Group is one of thelargest private health insurance in one of
the ten world's largest companies overall.So those of you with United Healthcare know
exactly what I'm talking about. Andof course, giant food PepsiCo has announced

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this month that's going to begin adoptingthe World Health Organization's dietary guidelines when manufacturing
its products. Oh, time tostart boycotting Pepsi. Yeah, they're going
to start doing stuff cutting down onsalt cutting down on pesticide use. You

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know, it says it doesn't includeits agricultural goals and any plans to reduce
pesticide use, which means they mustbe using pesticides. Why would you want
to buy any pepsi products. Asa result of that, city lawmakers in
Brazil have enacted to what appears tobe the nation's first legislation written entirely by

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AI, even if they didn't knowit at the time. That's right.
The city of Porto Alegre and cityCouncilman Ramiro Rosario revealed this week it was
written by chat bot chat GPT.They're gonna it created a binding ordinance for

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one point three million residents. Wow. And of course now they're all supporting
it. You see, this iswhere it starts. They all start supporting
chat GPT and everybody to talk tome. Have you seen the commercials on
TV. They're all ex stoling thevirtues of chat, GPT and AI and

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how wonderful it is and how it'sgoing to improve our lives and it's going
to be convenient. And see that'sall predicated on blockchain, right, all
part of the CBDC and all partof what they're going to do to take
over your bank accounts and control youwith digital currency. So much for your
bank account huh. I don't thinkthe bank's like it, but hey,

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anything for control, right. There'sa tech alert out. Google Chrome has
a critical flaw for those of you. They've recently issued an update. I'm
talking about Google across Mac Lennox andWindows platforms to address a critical zero day
security vulnerability, marking the sixth suchflaw in the popular browser this year Google

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Chrome. That's why I don't useit. Geoengineering Watch, by the way,
has put on a new climate alertnumber four thirty four. Probably want
to check that out at geoengineering watchdot org. Talking about changing temperatures making

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you sick, wouldn't it be moreappropriate to ask if it's what's in the
changing weather that's making it sick.Yeah. Dane Wiggington's got some insight into
that. Climate Summit leader said there'sno science behind the knees to faise out
fossil fuels. Let what what didthe US do? Thanks to John Kerry,
that moron that they need to getrid of him. Uh. He

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signed a deal, a new climatePact with a Paris Climate Accord to shut
down all coal power plants in theUS. In the meantime, Biden is
promising three billion in a gift tothe United Nations Green Climate Fund. Yeah,

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Chlamydia Harris announced the cash splash ispart of a series of US climate
initiatives at the COP twenty eight conferencenow underway in Dubai. Wow. And
you see what's really funny is it'sbeing hosted in one of the richest oil
countries in the world. And youreally think the oil barons are going to

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let them get away with this.Oh No, their stuff going on in
the background. We'll figure it out. You know. They're pointing at figures
about Chinese businesses headquartered in the UnitedStates. Republican presidential candidate Florida Governor Ron
DeSantis was the subject off yet anotherreport unflattering to his record on China.

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Happened this week, this time forreportedly providing ninety thousand and tax relief to
the subsidiary of a Chinese headquartered solarpanel manufacturer with a factory in Jacksonville,
Florida, Jinko Solar. That's whatit is. According to Washington Examiner,
the company would be rated by theDepartment of Homeland Security two, after allegations

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had violated the Wager Forced Labor PreventionAct. No okay, oh, let's
see before we go back to thephone lines. Thanks for holding everybody.
I got to get to this.This is about mRNA vaccines in our livestock.
This unholy alliance between Big Pharma andBig Agra may be the real issue.

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mRNA vaccines for cattle creating controversy.Why do they have to jab our
cows? This is of course beingfought by farmers who use traditional vaccines for
their animals, and they're dead setagainst using mRNA vaccines. This is US
Cattleman's Association they're fighting at too,as well as individual farmers. Since we're

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the Second Amendment stuff here in justa second. Jeff in North Carolina,
welcome to the show. Good morning, Hey, Hey, good morning,
Dave. Great show is always Hey, I'm just gonna have to go rush
out and get start getting cases abovelight. Now. I like to drink
beer a little bit, so that'swhat I need to do now, right,

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Okay. I was grimacing a littlethere until I figured out it was
a joke. Okay, oh man, oh man, oh man. Well
hey, hey, Dave, Iwanted to you were commenting on the stuff
going on January sixth in the stateof the country, as far as that
goes. I listened to a veryinteresting interview with Mike Eruzione the other day.

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You know, obviously you know whothat is, a guy that was
on the USA hockey team that beatthe Russians in nineteen eighty and they were
talking about the state. Do youdo you remember how remember how it was
they went back then when they wonthat game, how everybody was flying their
flags and saying, you know,screw Rush and everything. Do you remember
that? I vaguely do. Yeah. And they came out with the movie

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Miracle on Ice and everything, youknow, but they were talking about how
much this country has changed. Theysaid, well, what would what would
it be like if that happened now? What would how would people react,
especially the younger people. Now youknow they're saying they were talking about that,
and it was very interesting, youknow, imagining the scenario if that

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happened, like you know, liketomorrow or something. You know what I'm
saying. Yeah, well, Imean, given what's going on in all
the universities and all of the antiIsrael protests going on here and about the
Muslim community come out out and sayingthat they're going to make sure Biden doesn't
win the election, I find thateven more interesting. I can't think it's

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kind of reflective on everything that you'vebeen talking about, because you know,
when they multiculturalize a country and youdo something that these multiculturalists don't like,
this is what you get. Ohyeah, yeah, yeah, yeah that
and just the hatred for this countryright now is just even you know,
by people that live here is justabsolutely insane. And then I'm to come

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on and one more thing. I'llcome in on one more thing, David,
and I'll get off here. Iheard this story I guess has happened
maybe last week, But there wasa teacher I think in somewhere like in
Connecticut or somewhere up in there,that now this is a state of our
country right now, some of thepeople that are floating around. A teacher
got caught. I think a highschool teacher got caught having sex with e

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eleven year old kid in her inher car. That's the state of some
of the people in this country rightnow. Isn't that something? Well?
It is And they just busted anotherFlorida teacher for doing the same thing,
not having sex in the car.But I mean she was literally texting and
sexting and all that good stuff andgot caught. That's crazy. We appreciate

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the call. Sherry in Kansas,your next step, go ahead, Good
morning. Dave. George Riley haddoctor Oga Wall. He's a PhD.
Chemist that was I believe he wasdone at d M. D Anderson Cancer
Center. And he had written abook Healing Spices, and it is really

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good. And in that book hehas fifty different herbs that he focuses on
and tells all their properties and stuff. And horse radish is in the family
same family as broccoli and habbage andcall aflower a cold plant. And he

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said, of all of those,and you know how they're saying broccoli is
good against cancer, he said,the best one is the horse radish.
Interesting. Okay, well, thankyou for clarifying that. And he said
that I used to put horse radishin my meat loaf. Huh, it's

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you gotta try it. It's prettygood. Well, no, I've tried
horse radish before, but not inmeat loaf. But that's an interesting idea
I picked up speaking of radish becauseit is part of that family. I
got some dicone. You ever hadthat, No, I haven't, ye.

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I think I tried to grow himbecause I I think it was that
kind of radish seed. It wasa white radish seed. Yeah, yeah,
it is. It's hot and likehorse red it's it's hot. And
I actually shred it and put iton salad, cut it up in the
little pieces and put it on salad, on fresh salad. It's really good.

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I was going to tell you,Oh, Dick Durbin, the way
he got into Congress, he theIsrael lobby gave him a bunch of money
to run against Paul Finley because PaulFinley wasn't playing ball with the Israel lobby

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and he was in the House andthat's how he got it. And of
course now he's in the Senate,but opposing if anybody is opposing to steal
mars about Blackburn is trying to do, you can you need to look at
their how much they're getting to differentIsrael lobby groups. Because we know Jeffrey

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app was probably run it working forhim, I would imagine A pack is
one of them, and I hadto bring that up. I'm sorry to
keep interjecting the word that the phrasea pac, but yeah, well a
pack is a you know, there'sa bunch of little lobby groups and like
I think it said that Durban gotmoney from twenty seven different is your lobby

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groups. That's why you can't getkeep track of them, and an a
pack's just sort of the umbrella groupfor him. Yeah, I get that,
all right, So that's it.Yeah, I appreciate the heads up
on there. Kevin and Ohio.Good morning, sir, Welcome to the
show. Thanks Steve. Good morning. Let's sold an interview this weekend with

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Irin can be a medical official andhe claims that they're they're they're now processing
legal aliens in the VA system whofor their medical treatments. Isn't that a
wild one? Holy smokes. Youhave something like one hundred and twenty thousand

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of them. Oh my, andthat's sweet. Yeah, yep, screw
the veterans and give it to allthem. Wow. Yeah. And secondly,
I was listened to ag report here, local Ohio ag report this weekend,

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and they're talking about a new tick. Have you ever heard of the
Asian longhorned tick. No, probablya new one. Let me write that
down. Yep. It's less thanI think it's under ten years. It's
been in the country now, it'scrossed from Virginia to West Virginia to Ohio

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and there's other states. And thistick is a sexual. It's only the
size of a poppy seed. It'sasexual, and it can produce twenty It
can produce two thousand eggs at atime, so it doesn't have to breed.
You know, it's cloning more orless. And every one of those

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two thousands of female and each ofthem can produce two thousand eggs at a
time. They can get on alarge animal, let's say a fifteen hundred
pound cow steer, and they cansuck a dry of blood and actually kill
it. They found they found threedead three dead head of cattle in Ohio

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recently on a farm, and that'swhat they assumed after analyzing that's what it
was. Well yeah, yeah,yeah, they say they can find tens
of thousands of a TI of thoseticks on one animal. They prefer large
animals, that it can go tosmaller animals, and they don't know about
it's transmissive dismissivity, y transmissivity,yah are you well? Let me ask

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you this though, and you knowthat is a possibility that thank you for
bringing that up, because that isa possibility too that if you get these
on you and they start manufacturing,you know what, another interesting way to
depopulate not only ripping off our foodsupply by killing the cows that were anticipating
eating, but gives them another reasonto inject them with m RNA, thinking

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that they're going to stop stuff likethe Asian longhorn tick from infesting in their
into our livestock herds. But yeah, that's a that's a bigger problem that
you just mentioned there about the ideathat it could attack humans as well,
that's pretty scary. Yeah, that'sanother Asian invasion. Eh. Yeah,
you say, you get somebody talkingabout the moral compass of the United States

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coming on them about this last week, there was a World Age d that
just that just makes me sick.Yeah, I know that's they're trying to
garner sympathy for all these people outthere that were victims of it. Yet
the AIDS virus is about four percentof the m RNA jab and nobody figured

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it out. That's one of thereasons so many of us said no to
it. Thank you, Kevin,I appreciate it. I will mention that
Michael Anderson, we're going to tryto reach out to him at the bottom
of the hour here after the break, Eric Nebraska, eure up, what's
on your mind? Oh? Allright, Well, I wonder if I
wemexed and will kill parasites on theoutside of an animal or is it just
for the inside. But I thinkthe cow may be our savior since our

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diet and process food and all theherbs and people are trying to heat to
get healthy. Have you heard ofMakaiah Peterson, the daughter of Jordan Peterson.
Makiyah Peterson. Let me write itdown. M m I k h
A I l A m k hA I l A is she when she

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was two, her legs started,her feet started turning out. She said,
really bad, rubaturd arsiatis, andthen she lost, had to have
a hip replacement at seventeen, andthen she said she had an ankle replacement.
But eventually, uh, she goton just a meat diet of beef
and she recovered. And she hadshe listed all the drugs she was on
and all the antidepressants and stuff likethat, and this ted X wouldn't post

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her testimony and this. Yeah,So in this Anthony shape Shape shafeyet from
Australia, he entered a rest homeownerhal Kramer, and he said that he
tried to do all these diets andthe dietitian had him running around getting all
these ingredients and then the patients orthe residents didn't like it. So then

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he tried this carnivore diet, whichis no carbs and you have eggs and
some dairy dependent on you. Andthey were people recovering from their diabetes and
their dimension. Wow, well amazinghow that works. No one did they
want to kill off all earth?Maybe we better keep the cower in.
Yeah, it sounds like a goodidea. You can find those testimonies on

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YouTube. So anyways, I'll throwthat out. So I've been on street
days, I bet you have.I appreciate it tike you, sir,
you sound very well informed this morning. Take care all right, Moving on
to the second Amendment, there aresome things you need to understand. The
Democrats are unveiling what the NRA iscalling the most sweeping gun prohibition bill of

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the twenty first century. It's calledthe Gas Operated Semi Animatic Firearms Exclusion Act
ghost Safe. See they god allgot to have an acronym. Oh,
the Go Save Act. Yeah,this is what your gun rights group is
pan. Perhaps the most sweeping gunprohibition bill of the twenty first century,
introduced by number of Democrat US senatorsalong with an independent guess who that is?

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No Republicans joining, of course.The goal of the bill is to
ban firearms that can be fired quicklyalong with accessories and increase firing speed.
This would be like help fire triggersand echo triggers. Yeah, they have
the ability to accept magazines with acapacity of ten rounds or more, all
in a bid to limit a firearmsability to inflict maximum harm in a short
amount of time. In other words, basically, they use these help fire

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triggers to simulate automatic weapons so theycan create cover fire from people moving from
point to point For those of youin the military, you know exactly what
I'm talking about. We would usecover fire so that people could advance on
a target understand what they're trying toeliminate, because they don't want us having

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weapons similar to what the military has. You see how that works. Congress
is not your friend. If peopleare going to try to take away your
guns, and they're going to tryto strip your Second Amendment rights, we
have a real problem here. JudgeThomas S. Klee has issued a decision
striking down the federal prohibition against eighteento twenty year olds purchasing handguns. Oh

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wow, believe it or not.Yeah, you got all these people trying
to put a prohibition out to eighteento twenty year olds can't have a handgun.
It's really funny that we can drafteighteen to twenty year olds to go
serve in the military, but Godforbid, they come here after they're done

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and they can't own a handgun.Really, you see, this is the
stupidity of our government and all thegun control nuts out there. Gun control
nuts, iata, why don't youjust put a no kill, you know,
no weapons, Put one of thosesign out there, gun free zone.
Put one of those signs out infront of your house and see how

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long you live. And of coursenow we have a new CDC director,
doctor Mandy Cohen. God, theygot to find somebody Cohen Cohen. Wait
a minute, isn't that Jewish?She was formerly North Carolina's health secretary and
now she's a new director for theCDC. And she's defending COVID area policies,

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COVID era policies rather like vaccine mandates, in her very first appearance before
Congress, saying she's proud of thework they did in North Carolina. Ah,
I felt like what we did inthat way was very inclusive. Oh
inclusive? Oh d I right,she's defending the vaccine mandates, the school

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closer making excuses for her bad behavior. Wow. The US military, by
the way, got another whistleblower outthere. US military was among the first
to detect heart inflammation cases among thevaccinated YEP believe it or not, mile
carditis in the military mandated COVID nineteenjabs for its force. People who got

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the jabs are at a higher risk. According to South Korean researchers of blood
disorders and ear diseases, fake obituariesby the way, because they're trying to
cover all this up. Somebody's payingfake websites in India, Vietnam and elsewhere
to write fake obits. Doctor WilliamMaccus, who we've had on the show
before, has compiled ten shocking stories. And they died suddenly, but yet

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the fake obituary said they died ina car accident. All three of them,
the fake obituaries that were reviewed bydoctor William Maccus, all say they
died resulting from a tragic car crash. Interesting how that works. And of
course, of all the freaky thingsthat could happen. A blow dryer has

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been blamed for a Malaysian actress's suddendeath, Queens E Cheng. She died
suddenly last week from a ruptured brainaneurysm. And of course what did they
blame it on. Well, shewas blow drying her hair and it exacerbated
the aneurism. Oh my goodness,and the Asian media is all over this.
After blow drying her hair, shesaid she felt dizzy, had a

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headache and felt like vomiting, andof course she had an aneurysm. You
know, the high heat sitting inthe blow dryer machine can cause the blood
to circulate faster and burst the aneurysm. Then, of course it hemorrhages in
the brain and kills him. AndI'm just like, seriously, here we
go again. Wow, Lewis,welcome to the show. How are you,

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sir? Here's a good morning,Dave. I heard you speaking earlier
about the Google Browser, which Idefinitely do not use. A good recommendation
as an alternative is the Brave Browserb R a v E browser. Uh,
that's a good one as a substitute. She should stay away from the
Microsoft browser or the Google browser becausethey're part of the surveillance state. Yes,

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course, Well quick questions as you'retalking about that before you I lose
my train of thought. What doyou know about dot dot go? Yeah?
I don't use that either. Iuse start Page. You're familiar with
Katherine Angelo Brect. She's the onewho she's been ahead of the curve on
all of this surveillance stuff from manyyears ago. I heard her, Uh,

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and she's instrumental in developing start page, which is a great search engine
startpage dot com. And that's agood that's what I use. I use
the Brave Browser, and I usestart Page. Those two. Those two
are and lastly, a lot ofus are still stuck with Gmail. We
should migrate away from Gmail and eitheruse start mail, which is part of

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the start Face group, or protonMail. Now that we're going to stop
making it so easy, so easyfor us to be track, we need
the challenge that stayed a little bitmore and not be so complacent about continuing
to use the same things that we'vebeen used to over the years. No
doubt, I appreciate that, Lewis. Thanks for the input this morning,
So all about solutions here. Hopefullywe're going to reach out to Michael Anderson

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and selling it. You understand theconsequences there. I mean, it's bad
enough. We got Saint Mary's Collegeand All Girl Catholic School and Notre Dame
Indiana announcing now it's going to admitmen that identify as women. Where is

(34:58):
our moral compass? On? MikeAnderson. Welcome to the show, sir,
Thank you pleasure to be here.Now, you've got a PhD in
information science and I have. Isthat related to it or is it just
yes? Okay, I've been anIT consultant for four years and so now
you wrote a book based on thisare our moral compass? Basically? Is

(35:22):
that what I'm understanding? Yeah?I started writing in two about twenty years
ago, and I've always liked history, so I started reading about ancient history,
and then political systems, and thenmorphed in do modern politics. So
what have we got going on rightnow? I have always said that multiculturalism

(35:45):
is going to ruin this country,especially the importation of what nine something million
illegal immigrants that I'm being told thismorning by our listeners that they're watching programs
that are revealing that the va istree one hundred and twenty thousand of them
at our taxpayer expense. Wow,I mean, where does this end?

(36:07):
Well, the problem with multiculturism isit divides and makes a society more complicated.
I mean, it can function,but it makes it more difficult because
different cultures have different behaviors and differenthistories and all that, so assimilation becomes

(36:30):
more complicated and difficult. Well,when you get on, I like these
short, chopping answers. But youknow, here's the thing, when you
get on and you're like Biden andyou turn against the Muslims. Now,
the Muslims have turned against him,and they are vowing to take Biden out
in the swing States in this upcomingelection in twenty four because of the way

(36:52):
he's treated him. I don't thinkthere's any backpedaling from that, right,
yep. I mean, he's gothim into a difficult situation because he bought
into the progressive ideology in exchange forthem helping him get elected. So you
know, he's pulled way over tothe left and taking the Democrat Party way

(37:15):
over to the left, which ironicallymakes traditional Democrats like Bill Clinton look like
the Republicans because when you go whereyou go so far the left, everybody
else goes to the right. It'sa rule. Yeah. The bigger problem
is is that nobody wants sharia lawin this country, and that's what they
may very well up end up withif they don't stop this nonsense. I

(37:38):
mean, it is I mean,since you've been in this and you've seen
all of this stuff, You've writtenthe book about it, You've talked about
WoT corporations. Now we're hearing that, you know, bud Light went and
got Peyton Manning and Emmitt Smith,you know, retired NFL players to endorse
bud Light now, which everybody's callingbeer for queers. I'm just like,
look, you can't fix it.The two paces is already out of the

(38:00):
tube. I mean, how doyou figure all these people are going to
get away with it? Walmart,They're all going walk yep. One of
my basic principles is that you can'tforce a society to go in a direction
that it won't go. And theleft is enthusiastic and fanatical about equality,

(38:22):
and so they want to push equalityas fast as they can throughout our society.
And that neglects the fact that halfthe society is conservative. It's basically
about forty percent on each side.So and people don't change their political morality.
I mean, it's heavily influenced byheredity. It's about a fifty percent

(38:50):
likelihood that you will inherit the politicalviews of your parents, and obviously your
views are influenced by your environment andyour social circle, well when you're growing
up and all that. But youcan't change progressives in the conservatives and the
reverse. But progressives don't get thatmessage. They just and you see in

(39:14):
all the media how they think conservativesare wrong. They're wrong, and they're
bigoted, and they're biased, andthey have an incorrect view of the world.
The only correct view is their view. So they don't accept the other
point of view and won't even discussit. That's why we have tribalism.

(39:35):
Interesting. Well, see, andthe thing is is that we've had people
on the show, and I'm notgoing to mention names, but we've had
people on the show that have basicallysaid my way or the highway, and
you know, when our callers haveasked them specifically, well what about they
take the defensive and it's like,look, I've had guests on the show
that I know are yellow dog Democrats. They are liberal to the tea,

(39:59):
and we have con conversations like nobody'sbusiness. I love doctor Naomi Woll She's
figured it out. Her own partyturned on her. So I mean,
when you there are people who arewaking up from the other side and they're
joining the conservative ranks for lack ofa better cause. Im there isn't one
out there other than you're either oneway or you're the other. There is

(40:19):
no happy medium in the society,is there No? But you can blow
up the progressive's logic because if theyrefuse to talk to the right because they
don't accept the rights point of view, then the country can't move forward because
you can't have a government that isequally divided and then moves forward. There

(40:39):
has to be And then, youknow, before the nineties and during part
of the nineties, there were moderatesin Congress, as I'm sure you're aware,
and those moderates took the role ofmediating ideological arguments between the left and
right. Well, they're all gone. There are no moderates there. Obviously.

(41:01):
You can look at the Congress andyou look at the speeches that come
out of the Congress. It's leftand right. Now. The Congress does
not operate separate from the American people. They reflect the American people. So
the tribalism there reflects the tribalism ofthe American people. Man, I'll tell

(41:22):
you what I hate to and I'mnot going to disagree with what you just
said. If what is going onin Congress is a reflection of we the
people were in trouble, well,let me give you a great example of
that. Everybody complains about how manyold people are in Congress, right,
and you get discussions about term limitsand things like that, we need younger

(41:44):
people, we need new ideas allthat. The problem is that people keep
voting for the same candidates all thetime. If each person would take that
statement to heart and really look attheir own elections and vote accordingly, those
people would all be thrown out.But it's like, uh, get rid

(42:07):
of the old people as long asit's not in my district. Oh my,
you know, all for me,not for THEE, and vice versa.
The bigger problem, yeah, thebigger problem with Congress. I mean,
we share a lot of the sameviews because I majored in polyscide in
college. You know, with thisit science that you are heavily involved in

(42:30):
and have been for the longest time. You got to wonder about whether the
far right conservative movement, see there'sauthory to authoritarianism on both sides, left
and right. The ultimate goal ofthe extremes is total control, and the
bigger problem is, and it's awe studied this religiously too, like you
did. What's your take on what'sgoing on with the elections and what everybody's

(42:53):
talking about. Yeah, let meat a point before we go there.
I applaud you for understanding the differencebetween ideology and politics, because people confuse
that all the time. They assumethat conservatives are the same as fascists because
they're on the right. But there'sreally two spectrums. There's the political spectrum,

(43:15):
which has liberals on the left andconservatives on the right, and then
there's the ideology spectrum that has communistson the left, but fascists are on
the right. Because the two extremesand ideology support collectivist ideas. Conservatives are
capitalists and they're in the middle.They believe in individualism and not in groupism.

(43:43):
So the election very scary to mebecause I wish neither person was running.
I voted for Trump in sixteen,but I am not happy with the
way he's behaved. I think weneed more decorum in the presidency. I

(44:06):
mean, his personality works great inbusiness because you can bully people and get
him to sign a contract for lessmoney, but it doesn't work the same
in government. I mean, youhave to be open to other ideas.
You have to be good to allthe people, not just to your fanatics.

(44:27):
Small example. I don't know whetherhe supports or doesn't support the extreme
right, but he never takes apoint of view about it, and so
that leads everybody lead is a leftto the impression that he really supports the
alt right, and that's a mistaketo you know, and he's got supporters

(44:51):
there, so maybe he thinks helikes those having those supporters and needs them,
but by not addressing the issue ofthe problems the alt right causes reflects
back on him. And see,you, I've always thought the alt right
was, you know, consists ofalso right thinkers, in other words,

(45:12):
people that are looking at this andsaying, hey, wait a minute,
we started out with the constitutional Republic. And everybody, including Tucker Carlson that
gets on the air and starts talkingdemocracy. And I always refer to that
as Pelosi as a chatty Kathy doll, where if you pull the cord enough
times and she keeps saying democracy,democracy, or dentures fallout, and the
game is you put him back inand keep pulling the string again. I

(45:35):
mean, this is the same thingthat we are being indoctrinated with. They're
trying to change the mental framework ofthis country and it seems to be working.
That's the sad part. You're goingto enjoy the title of my next
book. All right, it's calledAmerica's Counterfeit Democracy. Wow, bravo.

(45:57):
I'm going to have to write itforward for the book, just like hey,
people are asking me to write forwardsand you know, for their books,
and they've got I got another onecoming out soon that I wrote it
forward for. And it's like,look, it's not so much the scripture
that indicates this, it's we,the people. We have the power to
control what is going on in thiscountry. And it's like, what's the
difference between ignorance and apathy? Idon't know, and I don't care.

(46:21):
So you know, when you getand you wonder why people who sit back
and go, yeah, the electionwas stolen, but I ain't gonna do
anything about it. It's like,oh, see, this is what's going
to cause our country to fall apart. Well, the major theme of my
fifth book is the power elite concept. And I don't know which if you've
read much about that, but Basicallythe concept is that, uh, the

(46:44):
wealthy families and the corporate leaders controlthe country and they have, you know,
a mechanism by which they control it, and they have they control the
media. Obviously, the media hascombined into six or seven billion dollar players,
and so the media message is thesame coming from all the sources.

(47:09):
Basically Foxes is different, but therest are the same, and so they
can exert influence on the people.And of course the social media is in
on that too, because that socialmedia is run by the left. So
it's been left ever since it's started, because the founders of Silicon Valley people

(47:32):
and see, the thing is is, I'm convinced that people, for one
reason or another still want to participatein social media because they feel like that's
the only way they can connect.And I'm just like, man, we
have to start shunning this stuff.But the thing is is if we you
know how the old saying about keepyour enemies closer, It's like, you

(47:53):
don't know what they're thinking unless youhave access to social media. You can
watch what they're saying from a distance, right, right, Yeah, how
about talking to your neighbor. Thatwould be a good thing to do.
Getting on social media. Yeah,sure would. That's a whole argument in
my fifth book about how community relationshipshave been degraded. There was a book

(48:17):
written about this. I don't knowif you've ever heard or heard of it.
It's called Bowling Alone. It waswritten in nineteen ninety four, and
it's basically about the degrading of communityassociations in the seventies, eighties, and
nineties, people doing less as groupsand doing more as individuals, partly because

(48:42):
of the helicopter family concept, soparents are devoted to watching what their kids
are doing twenty four hours a day. And then there's the TV and the
Internet, so people don't communicate anymore. And you've got obviously know this.
You've got trust problems. You don'tdon't know what to believe when you get

(49:04):
on social media because it's not moderated. Any fanatic or anarchists can get his
fifteen minutes of fame, and ifhe's his message is explosive enough, he'll
get a lot of viewers, whichthe media moguls like because they get more
advertising dollars. So it's a viciouscircle. Well, now look what they're

(49:29):
doing to X. I mean,they're trying to get the word out on
that Twitter. No, it isnow known as X and Elon Musk.
I mean, all these people Elon'scalling out, including Disney and Walmart and
everybody else, has decided, Look, we're pulling all our advertising because we
don't like what he said, right, I mean, that's what this is
coming to. So now they're tryingto in essence, trying to bankrupt X,

(49:50):
which I don't think will happen becausehe's got billions of dollars and he's
got Tesla and everything else going forhim. But the thing is is that's
a classic example of how the leftthis progressive movement. I'm not so sure
about Elon Muskin as a wolf insheep's clothing. I'm not sure about any
of it, given this tit fortat that's going on on social media.
Right. Yeah, I'm not surewhy he made the comments he made because

(50:13):
of their very questionable comments, butit gave the left an opportunity to pounce,
obviously, And you know, theyhaven't liked the idea of him buying
Twitter from the very beginning because he'snot a progressive individual. So that gives
them competition that they don't want.Interesting. Eight. I probably have time

(50:36):
to take one question from somebody outthere, if you have one, and
please frame it in the form ofa question, because this is some heavy
duty conversation we're having here. Uh. The name of the book is Twilight
of the American Experiment. Without morebalance, our Republic will fall by Michael
C. Anderson. And the thingis is this is not the first book
that you've written. Is Aserve numberfour? Number four? Yeah, and

(50:59):
so number five is coming out nextand that's going to focus on that's the
America's counterfeit democracy. Yeah, becauseanything anything but next year. All right,
good deal. I appreciate that.I'll look forward to getting that and
taking a look at it. There'sso many things to me that is going

(51:20):
on right now, and it lookslike what the system as a whole is
trying to do. Because you weretalking about individualism and not collectivism, it's
breaking up the family unit, right. Yeah. Yeah, there's I think
there's you have a copy of mybook, but there's a section there talking
about moral capital. Yep. Moralcapital is family, community, church,

(51:40):
and patriotism. All are under attack. All are glue that holds society together.
If you destroy them, all youdestroy society. So looking at this
whole bigger picture destroying society and thefact that we are threatened by outside sources.
And now because of COVID, theymanaged to lock us down. They

(52:01):
managed to brainwash a bunch of usand condition us to behaving like social isolationists,
where we all rely on social media. I mean, it's like they
pushed us all into well, thisis the only way that we have to
communicate because we're locked down in ourhouses. Why they even had to succumb
to this in the first place isbeyond me, because you know, you

(52:22):
once you figured out what the gamewas, it's like the jig is up
and I'm not buying it. Imean, Americans have to stand up now,
don't they. Yeah. I talkedin my Tribalism book about the things
that could end tribalism. One isan event that unites the country, because
if we get like nine to eleven, for example, if we get united,

(52:43):
we stopped being tribal. But andI thought COVID was the answer.
But COVID became politicized like everything else. Unfortunately, well this is the bad
thing because Trump then came out withwarp speed and he's doing this and patting
himself on the back the whole timeand telling people we got the booster,
and I'm like, oh, dearGod. Now we figure it's a depopulation

(53:04):
effort because all these people are droppingdead or having adverse events. We've got
increased cases of mile charaditis in themilitary. I mean, there's only one
way that this is gonna work.I mean, nobody wants to join the
military. I see ads for themilitary all the time, and nobody wants
to join. But they're trying toget us into a world war. And
so you know, America's faced witha real serious dilemma at this point.
And it's more than just how tosay no. Define tribalism for those that

(53:29):
don't have a clear picture where you'regoing with it. It's the clear split
between left and right among the Americanpopulation, where and try people join tribes
because they're safe, and people goingright or left was safe for them because
they didn't understand what was happening tothe country. And so, you know,

(53:51):
and unfortunately, it's easy to betribal because you don't have to think,
you know, you just look atwell, this tribe believes this,
and this tribe believes that, I'lljoin this tribe because it sounds like what
I want to be. You don'thave to make an objective evaluation of the
truth. You just join a tryit man. See that's the thing.
It could be dangerous too, becausestuff like that can be held against you,

(54:14):
especially if you were at J sixand that whole thing was a trap.
We already know that. That's partof your tribal instinct you're talking about,
right, Yeah, yeah, God, that's scary and the whole thing
was a setup and we know it. So this conservatism, you think it's
a failure on what grounds? Well, the important point to make is that

(54:37):
conservatives and liberals think differently. They'regenetic differences that are proven. Their brains
are different, they have different pointsof view, and they're not going to
match up. Okay. The differencethough, is that liberals are very outgoing,
they're extroverts and they're pushy, pushingfor equality. Conservatives are their status

(55:00):
quote people. They are comfortable change. And again this is personality, so
they don't for example, they takeridicule and don't fight back, you know,
because you'll hear attacks on conservative housemembers or senators, no no response
back. Interesting that attract the leftyou attack the left, you get a

(55:22):
strong response back. And part ofthe problem there is conservatives like living their
lives. They have confidence in whatthey've accomplished. They're into the moral capital
that I talked about, family andcommunity, and so they don't feel like
they need to engage now conservatives.Conservatives think that the human society should be

(55:47):
hierarchical because they think that's the naturalway for it to work. The best
and the hardest working go to thetop. So the left that's unfair and
so they want social Yep, thereyou have it, folks. The name
of the book once again, you'vegot to get this. You can get
it through the Power Mall and thePower Hour by Mike Anderson. Remember that

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