Robert Taktalian on healthy oral hygiene + Fred Dashevsky on gold prices increasing – November 29, 2023 (Hour 2)

Robert Taktalian, founder of Vita-Myr natural toothpaste & mouthwash joins to discuss the importance of...

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We've been having some technical difficulties herein our connections this morning. Welcome back.
It's a power mall is now openeight seven seven eight one seven eight

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nine for those of you who wantto call up an order, because that's
what keeps us on the air.Where one hundred percent listeners supported. And
of course, on October thirtieth,somebody joined us and bought us a cup
of coffee, choosing germane anonymous.We appreciate that. Robert Tiktalian. Uh,
let's see. Do we have youon the line, Yes, you

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do. I've been listening to you. Yeah, I'm telling you I haven't.
I haven't talked to you a while. I was sitting there extolling the
benefits of Vadimir toothpaste and your mouthwash, which I used daily. Absolutely love
it. As a matter of fact, you know, I've had a couple
of issues. You know, whenyou have implants and stuff like that,
sometimes your gums get sore. AndI have found that after you know,

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brushing and taking time using the mouthwash and whatnot, all of a sudden
that sensitivity in the gums just magicallygoes away. You ever had anybody come
in and give that kind of atestimonial. You know, I can tell
you thousands of testimonials because I've beendoing this for twenty five years now,

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and people find a good product andthey will use it. Of course,
you know, I was sitting herelisting some of your commercials. They're so
beautifully done. I learned a lotabout a few things on your commercials.
It is something that people have tolearn if they don't understand that your mouth

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is the beginning of your health.You cannot ignore the fact that your mouth
is very important part of your body. The beginning of your health starts in
your mind. You take care ofyour mouth, your month will take care
of you. I've been saying thisforever, and I love to hear when
people say, you know, Iuse the mouthwash and I got a benefit.

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I use the toothpaste. I benefitfrom it well because it has great
ingredients of seeing Folly Caucid's gloil,moral and all natural toothpastes, no chemicals,
no preservatives, no sugars, soit really really works. And I
suffered it or I had problems,and that's why we created the mouth Rush

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and toothpaste. So I can tellanybody try the mouth rush and toothpaste.
Weismareth toothpaste and mouthwash. You canget it at Power Mold and we guarantee
hundred percent satisfaction or money back guarantee. We don't have anyone shoot the product.

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I understand that completely. Robert seeten percent off this week by the
way, at the Power Mall.For those of you, you got three
days to take advantage of that,and so you know you can call eight
seven seven eight one seven nine twonine to the Power Mall is open now.
Power or Jay will take your call. And like I said, we're
listener supported, and this is oneof the reasons because we have great people

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like this. Joyce Riley has takenthe time over the last twenty years before
she passed in twenty seventeen to comeup with vendors and partners who have quality
products. Viidamir toothpaste is one ofthose, and so is the mouthwash and

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the mackup powder. I mean,there's all sorts of good stuff here.
We're going to be talking about thatin this particular segment. The natural mouthwash
comes in a sixteen ounce size bottleand the stuff is potent. Let me
tell you you don't need a lotof it. Tell me about that,
Robert, I know, you knowwhat, Jenna. Yeah, it has

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four ingredients zinc, folic acid,glooral morale in these two water. It's
a process. It's pattern that processanyways. But what it does is penetrate
between your garment teeth. It goesafter the bacteria that's hiding in between packets

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or lose teeth everywhere. You know. The bacteria goes from your mouth to
your bloodstream to your heart. Thisis very hard to just create it,
but by dental association, accepting thefact that bacteria can cause heart disease and

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our product to best and mouth byboat will help you in that. One
of the main things. It willkeep your mouth most. Dry mouth is
one of the biggest problems people have. One of the biggest problems because a
lot of people use alcohol, smokingor alcoholic best products could be mouthwode based

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in alcohol. Your dry mouth helpsbacteria to grow faster every time you swallow.
If you have good mosh mouth sliva, you swallow bacteria and kill the
bacteria in your stomach acid and alleviateyour mouth from the bacteria. So having

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moist mouth is very important, sothe bacteria will nasticks, becameline, create
plug and eat your bono way.This is so important and the simple things
you know, you don't need alot of good things. Good brushing,
good flashing, good mouth wash,swishing your mouth. It will help you

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tremendously stay healthy and you can eatand enjoy your food crap. Imagine when
you have sold it it's hard tochew because it hurts. Then you swallow
big pieces of food. Now you'rehaving your stomach to digest that big piece
of good and give you stomach eggbecause it's hard to dodgest big pieces of

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food. First digestion start in yourmouth by chewing your foot goods at this
twenty thirty forty times before you swallow. Your sliva is helping. Our slava
has a lot of enzymes, goodand bad bacterios, hopefully more good bacterios.

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Where you chew your food and swallowproperly, then it helps your organize
your intestine. Does your stomach digestit much easier. So all these little
things that we never really pay attentionmakes a lot of difference on our general
health. And having good products thatcreated by somebody who suffered from this oral

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health problem is very important. Agood toothpaste, a good mouthlage, and
good brushing fishing with the montage willreally tremendously help you. Yeah, I
don't know how too many people,I mean our regular listeners know what you
went through at the age of fortyfour. You had paradonald disease so bad

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your teeth were too very loose.Dennis wanted to take them out, give
you all amplants. I mean,that's pretty scary stuff. You want to
tell us the story for those whohaven't heard it. I love to tell
that story. I never stopped tellingit, even though it's the reputation reputation,
but it's the truth. I couldn'tI couldn't eat anything. It has

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to be solved. Might t losetotally losing my mind. And I had
good dentists. Suppose I had greatpair of dentists. So they were playing
volleyball with my wallet. One month, I did the dentist, next month,
a pair of dentist. For years, I said thousands and thousands of
dollars to the dentists and pero dentists, and one day my pero dentist said,

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you know, there's nothing more wecan do. We have to remove
all your teas. But don't worry, Robert. We'll give you the best
implants. You'll be okay, butif you don't, you will have no
bone struting left to hold your dangersor influence. I was scary, but
I said, sure, go ahead, We're going to do it. You

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know my health is important. Iwant to leave. When I came to
my office at the time, weused to the floor businesses, and I
told my wife they gave me thispill sarch tick before the operation, and
they're going to remove all my teads. She said, wait a minute,
what are you talking about removing yourtid. I'm telling you we can do

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something natural. And she was tellingme all the time, but I would
tell her, Look, you don'tknow better than my dentists or the dentist
and my payer of dentists. Imean, they started for years to be
professional people in the field. There'sno way that a couple of natural ingredients

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could help in my condition. Shesaid, now, how hard is it
to try. Let's try it beforeyou remove your things. Well that sounded
good for a change, and butfor the first time, maybe I listened
to my wife and we make thelong story short. We got the ingredients.
We made mountwage. It took aboutover three months because testing in so

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many different ways. We end upwith zinc full because of global lurl with
distill water. The process of cookingthat we did, by the time perfect
that this mount us what it istoday. It was selling nationwide. I
had my tead nice and tied mygums stop bleeding totally. I was able

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to buy an apple, and youknow how hard is to buy an apple.
First bite with nice tight apples isdelicious, but you can bite.
You have to cut with a knife, but if you have good teach,
you can bite it. I beatan apple and edit and I was like
ecstatic. It was like Urica whenI find life. It is so important

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to have good tea where you canchew your good food and enjoy it too.
When I start doing that, Ipromised. I know it sounds corny,
it sounds like you know I'm doingbusiness and promoting products, but it's
the truth. I told my wife, I'm going to put this product everywhere

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I can beat all the money Ican make to put it out to help
people who suffer like me. It'snot right designed to profit make money.
I wanted to help people who sufferlike me. I swear. I'm telling
you. I've been telling this fortwenty five years now. I want to

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help people who suffer like me.You know what it is when you talk
to somebody and then they say,oh, your gums are bleeding, your
month is full of blood, becauseyou don't know you're just talking to somebody.
I'm a businessman and I've been inbusiness and people will tell me,
Robert, what's wrong. You're bleedingin your mound. Oh, you know,
I'm bolishing that I can talk aboutthis forever and non stuff and take.

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I know. The other thing thatgets me though, is the costs
of dentistry these days and what donnistsare trying to do. I've had I've
had so many people I've talked tothat visit one dentist and they have to
refer them because now they don't wantto do rick canals. Dentists don't want
to do rick canals, just wantto do cosmetic surgery what makes money and

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put implants in. But you've gotto go to an orthodonist or a periodonist
to get or an end of donniststo get a rick canal done. And
then he wants to do the sameX rays that the original dentist wanted to
do, which is more money.So you're spending another two hundred and fifty
bucks. And then he says,well, he says I could do the
you need a rip canal, Andit's like, well, wait a minute,

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you have help, you have dentalinsurance, No, you don't have
dental insurance. And if you havedental insurance, it's like, how much
of that isn't going to pay?Then? You start comparing apples to oranges.
In the meantime, the you know, you're like, well, I
don't like you know, your bedsidemanner, because it's all about the money.
How come you had to charge mefor more X rays when the first
enist already gave you the X rays? I really think this is a cya

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kind of thing that these dentists andthese specialists are doing these days, referring
business to each other to bleed youfor more money. And if you don't
at Attic with gental insurance, yousee, folks, you're running into this
sort of situation. And Robert,how much did they want to charge you
for all those implants? Oh?Forty five thousands of the time. Yeah,

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see, folks, that's what I'mtalking about. Yeah, that's what
I'm talking about. Yeah, fortyfive thousand those Well to do you get
one thousand, four thousands? Justone inflant Yep, that's right. I
paid thirty five hundred for the oneI got. And see, the thing

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is is that you know I havediscount plans. You get dental insurance,
you're going to pay thirty to fortybucks a month, and if you multiply
that, that's about four hundred andeighty bucks a year, and so you
know, for five hundred dollars ayear, and then they only they only
cover fifty percent of the cost.Folks, I'm trying to tell you something
here, and that's you know,if you're not going to get an education

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this way, look at the finances. What it does your bottom line when
you don't take care of your teeth. That's one of the reasons why we
carry vitamin products. Yes, Ican tell you there is not enough insurre
You cannot buy enough insurance for yourworld care. There is not enough insurance.
I don't care if it's Humana,at Kaiser or whatever insurance companies you

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deal with. They have only afew dollars. When you sit on a
dental chair, it's one thousand dollarsright there may be just or two thousand
or three thousand dollars. They justthrow numbers. Look, there's a lot
of good dentists in this country.I'm not knocking down dentists. I have
a lot of good dentist friends whocare about their patients. I have dental

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companies who sell our product or giveaway our product as samples for the people
for the people benefit from a goodtoothpist. But most of them are in
business to make money, and dentalbusiness. Look, there is dental office,
every mod every quarner of the street, there's a dental office. There's
a reason for that. There's goodmoney and it's easy money. But you

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can help yourself by just taking careof your teeth by brushing with good toothpastes
like Wisemark flashing and using the mouthwashafter that and clean your mouth properly.
You don't have to see dentists,maybe one say, just to get make
sure check off there is no otherproblems. A lot of people say,

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well I just use the mouthwash andit didn't do anything to me. Well,
I said, how long you've beenhaving problems? Oh? Many years?
Well, I say, clean yearsof problem. You think a bottle
of mouthwash is going to help you, You have to be steady, diligent
about taking care of your oral headat least two three times a day if

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you have problems, maybe more.A lot of customers learn that if you
use the mouthwash more often it's smallswishing problems, you will alleviate the problem
better, faster and have a goodresults in a mouthwash. Just take a
small sip of mounthash. Hold inyour mouth as soon as you can bear

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it. Swishe it, hold itswishes, hold it to it. If
you have bleeding guns, you willsee three days three four days time a
great benefit of it. I cannotsay enough what it will do for you.
So call power Mol. Trust me. I'm telling you this is something

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I've been doing for twenty five years. I spend every time I have to
do this just to help people.Call Parermol. Get your two tests in
mouthwash tried yourself one hundred percent moneybag guarantee. If you're not satisfied,
but it will help you, butyou have to use it. You can
just brush your te once and speak. There is no miracle in this world

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that I know. Utical is yourhog book and you'll do some the care
of your health and not trusting someabout us to take care of you.
You trust yourself, do yourself,take care of yourself. And that's that's
the best of us I can giveyou. Yeah, for sure. Well,

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and see that's one of the reasonswhy we have ten percent off.
Folks. This is the thing andit's not an info martial. We're actually
sharing real, live stories and tryingto get to the economics of this,
which is going to be cheaper andless painful buying the mouthwash and the toothpaste
now, and see, the olderyou get, the worse it gets taking

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care of your teeth and your gums, because you know, sometimes we forget
you don't brush after every meal.I get it. There's a lot of
people just a they don't have time. There's a lot of people out there
that still work and they don't havetime. They could they manage to get
it done in the morning and inthe night. The thing is is,
which is cheaper these expensive dental billsand paying for dental insurance all the time,

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or buying mouth washing the powermall keepingus on the earth so we can
continue to educate and inform and thenthat's less trips to the dentist. I
have not had one cavity on anycheckout in the last three years because I've
been on this regiment. Believe itor not. That's my new testimonial,
Robert, Well, thank you,that is so good. No. I

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hear these testimonials every day from peopleI talk to, But I also hear
other things. People say, well, the dental off you saw me this
bottle of Montos with thirty nine dollars. But it blockens my teeth. What
should I do? I say,well, don't use the product that you
don't see what's good. Use aproduct that doesn't do that. If you

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have any product that blocks you,you have a problem there. Yeah,
for sure, Robert Textalian, thankyou much. We're at the break.
We are going to be back tryingto get Prejudice Chefski on the phone here
if we can and have a littlechat about the US coin capital. Davis

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reach us at one eight hundred eightseven eight two six four six uscoincapital dot
com. Welcome back to the PowerHour. Dave Preeger with you here at

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twenty six minutes after the hour.I know we kind of shifted the clock
around on you a little bit.Uh, thanks you to technology these days.
But I told you that if Icould get Fred Dschewski on this phone
line, uh, and we're onSkype together, of course, if I
could get him on and talk tohim anymore, I said, we just
don't have enough time ever to talkto Fred. And Fred's one of our

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new partners here at us cooin Capital, new sponsor for the Power Hour.
And the thing is is that youknow we're in a situation economically. I
mean, you got the Christmas treeblowing over with just August to win a
national capital, I'm just like scratchingmy head going, man, what else
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looking at your investments. Yeah,Wall Street may be up, but you
know, see the thing is itis all based on a propped up fiat
currency system. Well i'll tell youwhat. Fred's on the right track because
one he's a numismatic collector, andI think people need If you don't know
what numismatic means, I'm gonna letFred explain it. Welcoming back to the
show, sir, welcome, thankyou, Happy to be back with you

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again. And numismatics fancy word.I've always loved it. People ask what
do you do for a living?I say, and I'm a numismatist and
they just stop. But effectively itis the study of coins and currency.
I love it. See this isjust like you know a magician when you
say a new miss and they're goinga what, I think you're a magician.

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Well here's the thing. You know, Fred can take your whatever you
want to call that fiat currency andconvert it into gold. I think that's
a good idea. Yeah, Ithink it is too. We have gold
investments and silver investments, and thething is that Fred does offer specials.
But here's the thing. When yougo to the website at us coin Capital

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and that's capital like the building capitalcool col When you go to uscoincapital dot
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and of course he's on top ofall the latest trends and he puts all
this educational material on the website.So those of you who don't understand the
function of things, I want totalk a little bit about it. Let's
get these people an education because someof them don't know. I got asked
questions about this up and one ofmy listeners actually talked to regularly ought there

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asked me about spot price. Theywant to understand how spot price, what
it is? How is it determined? You know, where do they come
up with this number? Sure?Well, you know, like all mortgages
originate with libor, so we havea fundamental basic level for which precious metals

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will trade. And precious metals aroundthe world are traded in various forms,
but effectively, the London Billion MarketAssociation, along with comex, define each
day the current trading price for goldand silver based upon supplying demand characteristics,
and they set what they refer toas spot. So the spot price effectively

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is kind of like that fundamental ratewhen it comes to mortgages. Everything springs
from that. So how much arewe paying over the current mortgage rates or
how much are we paying over theone to billion Market Association spot price.
So spot sets the level for whichthe metals will trade, but then you
have to add to that, sothere's always overspot or underspot. So the

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overspot comes from the fact that atsome point somebody acts to actually manufacture the
silver, refine it, and there'san expense in that. So you've got
to clean out any impurities, you'vegot to refine it to a pure form
that's recognizable. Perhaps it needs tobe stamped or struck into a bar,
mint it into a coin. Allthat comes with a cost. So the

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eventual price that an investor collector willpay is going to be somewhat over the
price of the spot metal. Whenthey show the spot price on the most
of the market analysts and most ofthe market condition pricing that you see a
lot of times they're referring to futuresprices more than the current daily price.

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So it can get a little confusing. Is there's a bit of a spread
between the futures market and the currentspot price. But for all intents and
purposes, spot can be defined asthe base value of the intrinsic metal.
So if we see silver today,let's say twenty five dollars an ounce,
that's the basic metal cost for anounce of silver, and then we may

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have let's say a couple of dollarspremium for it to be refined into a
bar, and maybe a ten dollarspremium for petty refined into let's say a
silver eagle, and then various coinsagain may sell for more or less than
the current spot price. The samething with gold. See. Because a
lot of people and this is aconfusing thing. The thing that always got

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me bread And I'm glad we're havingthis conversation because there's a lot of people
out there that want to invest,but they need an education. So you
know, one of the things thatpeople will get spot and they go,
okay, well that's the spot price. What's with the premium? See they
think premium is your commission. Oh, how much money they're making off selling
me that coin. That's not whatyou just said. No, it's not,

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because again, there is an initialmanufacturing cost to refine anything. If
you think about let's say oil,the same thing applies. If you look
at the price you pay for gasversus the price of a barrel of oil,
they don't relate directly because there's arefining cost involved in there. And
then again there is a middleman,is this transportation that's involved. There's all

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sorts of little things that have tocome into play when you're dealing in physical
product. But we need to havea base idea of what the metal value
is, so they have a startingpoint, and that would be the spot
price. I don't think anybody shouldever expect to be able to buy anything
for the base metal cost. There'salways going to be something. I mean,
if you look at the cost oflumber, for example, and then

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go to your local lumber store tobuy a slab of wood, again,
you're going to be paying more thanwhat lumber per pound or per square foot
charges again because there's a cost involvedto physically manufacture it, refine it into
some sort of useful form, transportit, and all that sort of stuff.

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Now, when it comes to coins, it gets kind of interesting.
There are some old coins, andwhen I say old now, it's only
because I'm that age. They thenback to the nineteen sixties, and you
know, when you talk about silverquarters and dimes and halves, they don't
sell for a lot more than thespot price of silver. Their premiums as

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it is, are rather low.And that's really amazing considering obviously they can't
go back to manufacture any more ofthese things. Whatever they minted up through
it, including nineteen sixty four,is the complete and full supply that will
exist for every generation to come,for every generation going forward from here.
So the fact that we have thisfixed supply and these things were already minted

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into a legitimate legal tender form,the fact that they don't care very much
of a value more than merely themetal they're made of, is astounding.
But it makes it a very affordableway for people to acquire silver. Now,
as you get into slightly and progressivelyrarer items, they begin to carry

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premium values. Now, those premiumsare not profits made by the dealers.
So let's say you have a thousanddollars silver dollar, for example, that's
value to one thousand dollars because ofits rarity. It's not like if one
were to sell it, they're onlygoing to get the price of the silver

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metal, you know, the threequarters of an ounce of silver, the
silver dollars made of. They're goingto get a much higher price for that
coin because it has a value inits own right. So some coins trade
for way above the metal value.Those are the more numismatic coins as we
call them, right and you havea deal right now going on numismatic coins.

(33:59):
A certain gotten I think is whatyou said. Yeah, it's a
gold piece. It's a one outsized American goal coin. The last regular
US goal coin minted in American historywas known as a Saint Garden's twenty dollars
gold coin. And when we talkabout a twenty dollars gold coin, first
of all, this was in nineteenup to nineteen thirty two, nineteen thirty

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three when they were minted, theywere at that time twenty dollars face value,
and that meant that there was anequivalency between a paper twenty dollars note
and that gold one ounce coin attwenty dollars. They were interchangeable, so
you, as an American citizen,have the legal right to ask for the
twenty dollars goal piece that was representedby that paper note you carried around,

(34:43):
and you could actually physically make thatexchange at your discretion anytime you wanted,
because they kept supplies of these againstall the paper money. Now, over
time, the gold value of thetwenty dollars coin began to exceed the face
value, so in other words,the ounce of gold became worth more than
twenty dollars. That started a problem, and that ended with the government having

(35:08):
to stop the production of gold coins. Because let's say it cost thirty dollars
worth of gold to make a twentydollars gold coin. Well, you've got
a running problem. You could takethat gold and melt it for the thirty
dollars, but you could buy itat face value at twenty So obviously these
would never circulate his money and itwould cause a deficit for whoever was producing

(35:30):
them. So they just stopped producingthem. That was their answer, and
then little by little, that twentydollars gold coin became worth thirty dollars and
forty dollars and fifty dollars, andthen over the years we began to find
that most of these got melted duringa nineteen thirty three gold recall where the

(35:51):
government had run out of money andduring a great fiscal crisis, the Great
Depression. To bring it to anend. Their conclusion for how to deal
with that was to ask the generalpublic to volunteerily turn over their own private
gold reserves, because the gold quantitiesthe government was holding just simply weren't sufficient
for the amount of paper money thatthey had printed. And they knew that,

(36:15):
so they asked the public, couldyou replenish the treasury vaults with gold
by turning over your own But indoing so, they also had to stop
the public from redeeming these twenty dollarspaper notes for these gold coins they needed
to replenish the gold reserve. Theycouldn't have everybody showing up to pull the

(36:36):
gold right back out, so weweave. Yeah. So they passed the
law that said, Okay, we'regoing to produce more paper money. It's
going to be backed by gold,but we're going to prevent the public from
actually taking that physical delivery. Andyou're going to have to now accept the
notion that you're getting now an ioupromise from your government that they will sustain

(37:00):
the same quantity of gold that previousexisted, but you just can't have it
ouch boy, oh boy, andlook at where times are now and what's
going on. I mean, now, I'm going to get to this.
There's a little thing that you seewhen you look stuff up MS. Sixty
four. I'm going to let Freddefind that here in the second Eric in

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Nebraska, you have a question forFred Drshevski. Yes on the twenty dollars
liberties and the saying gods. Whenyou buy them, you seem like you're
buy them in a premium. It'san old coin. But then if you
need to sell them, they usuallyonly pay you what's the amount of gold
in it, to say it's ninetypercent gold. That just pay the spot
price for gold. So I wonderif it'd be better just to buy new

(37:45):
gold and some kind of thing that'sverified on the ounce instead of buying those
one hundred euro o coins. Sure, now, in that situation that you
describe, of course the answer wouldbe yes. But the reality is is
that dealers you actually pay premium forthe twenty dollars goal pieces and the rarer
coins in mint condition. That marketexists, but you have to go to

(38:07):
somebody who's making that market, notto somebody who's just looking to buy,
you know, like somebody could buya piece of art and say, well,
you have a picasso, you know, and it might sell at auction
for ten million dollars, But I'mgoing to look at it and say,
well, it's made of this muchwood, and it has this much to
canvas and this much pain, andif I add up the value of those

(38:30):
products, that that's what it's worth. Now, if I offered that to
you, you would walk out thedoor. You wouldn't accept that notion that
my establishment of its value is accurateto what it truly is. Same thing
applies to American gold and silver coins. There are dealers, of course,
who will try to take advantage ofpeople and not recognize, you know,

(38:52):
a high quality grade or a rarercoin. But again there are also huge
numbers of legitimate dealers that do knowand do pay the appropriate values for coins.
I also recommend, as a methodof solving that problem that if you
buy a coin that does have morevalue than it's metal, make sure it's

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been graded and certified by a professional, independent organization. By doing so,
the coin will come in a sealedholder and stamped right on the front of
the holder is the date, thecondition, the fact that it's meant and
that prevents that dealer from saying,oh, well, that's just a melt
value. Well, no it's not. It's graded, and it's been graded

(39:37):
by somebody independent. It wasn't thedealer that graded it. It was a
third party that had no ax togrind. They independently viewed it and they
said, this is a legitimate,authentic pre thirty three coin. It is
clearly mint conditioned and on a scaleof one of seventy, we call it
a sixty four, which is avery high quality grade coin. Now what

(39:59):
is MS stand I came in withthe mint state graded sixty four. What
would you pay for it? Well, a coin today, for example,
that I'm offering for sale at twentysix hundred and ninety five dollars, I
would be paying twenty four hundred ifsomebody were selling it to me. And
then so I forget what spot priceof gold is today, about two thousand

(40:21):
and twenty five dollars or twenty andforty it's up a little bit in the
last two days. Okay, Now, on silver, you say you buy
back silver eat silver dollars that wereyou know, still in the case and
the mint, how much over aspot price would you pay for those?
Well, depending on the coins nowcirculated silver dollars that are just running the
mill and worn out and not evengraded, you know they're going to bring

(40:45):
twenty twenty five bucks a coin easily. And as you move up in the
mint condition grades minstate sixty two's andsixty threes, each coin carries a higher
and higher price, So sixty four'sor you know they're ninety hundred dollars on
the whole sale side, you canbuy them for about one hundred and fifteen
and so on. As you moveup the scale MS sixty five grades,

(41:07):
you know they're worth about one hundredand eighty one hundred and ninety on the
wholesale and you can buy them retailfor about two hundred and fifteen to twenty
a coin. So there's a littlespread in anything that you buy, and
that is certainly true of gold andsilver coins. One of the reasons I
recommend that people do not speculate andtry to buy something today with the intention

(41:27):
of selling it in two weeks ora month because they think something's going to
dramatically make the price of gold andsilver go up. That to me is
speculation, and that's not how Ithink people should acquire gold and silver coins.
I think if you're doing this properly, you're putting these things away for
five or ten years out and lettingthem appreciate over time against the progressively weaker

(41:47):
paper dollar. That's where you getyour gains and benefits. So, as
an example, on that twenty dollarsgo coin, it wasn't too many years
ago that we were selling them toour customers at our round six hundred and
ninety five dollars apiece. Then theywent up to around eight hundred and ninety
five, and then eleven hundred,and then fifteen hundred and eighteen hundred and
twenty two, and now we're atabout twenty six or twenty seven hundred dollars

(42:10):
for a good bin condition coin.And they will progressively keep getting more and
more valuable, both as the priceof gold itself goes up, but also
as these get rarer and more scarce, their values also continue to increase even
a little bit more rapidly than theprice of gold, so they're a great
way for investors to own gold.The other reason I like them is because

(42:34):
of the fixed supply, the factthey can't go back and make more where
they certainly can produce more ounces ofgold like you're describing brand new gold.
Ounces can be reproduced forever, andthere's no difference amongst them by any date,
so they're all the same, whichmeans they never will appreciate at all
unless the price of gold goes up, So you're cutting yourself off for one

(42:57):
potential way for seeing a game profitover time. That's why I like the
original gold coins with fixed supply,and also because the government has decided they're
going to treat you differently if you'rebuying ounces of goal versus buying old or
numismatic coins, in that they forceus as dealers to follow regulations for people

(43:20):
who sell us billion. So ifyou sell me bars of gold or any
form of bullion we call that,I have to by law file to ten
ninety nine B. That means takingyour personal Social Security number and letting internal
Revenue know that I've written a checkto you for this amount of money and
that is all income for you.You then have to prove that you had
a cost basis, so you candefine the profit is only the difference between

(43:45):
the two. Now, if yousell me numismatic coins like these twenty dollars
in gardens, you can sell mea million dollars worth of these, and
I just write you a check.I am not required to file any information
with anybody, and I don't,so at least you have financial privacy.
New coins. You don't have todo that. With new coins like new
silver dollars, you don't have That'snot okay. It is required on any

(44:07):
new coin, any bullion item,anything that is not a pre thirty three
gold or pre nineteen sixty four silvercoin. Wow, boy, something you
learned, see Eric, Thanks foryour call and the legitimate questions, every
single one of them. These arethings that everybody and their brother is asking.
The one thing that always puzzled me, though Fred, was negotiability of

(44:27):
these things in hard times. Youtake one of these nineteen sixty four and
you drop it on the connor andyou can definitely hear the difference between today's
quarter and sixty four quarter, andyou'd see you hear it, You just
know it. Wait a minute,that's silver. But you take that anywhere
to a grocery store or whatever,well that's twenty five cents. No,

(44:47):
it's not. You see, nowwe have a negotiability factor here, and
when everybody falls on hard times andthey god forbid, bricks comes in and
they dedollarize everything. I mean,this stuff's going to be really pricey.
It's going to be valuable, It'llbe very valuable. But again, you
know, unlike you're not going totake your piece of art down to the
supermarket and try to negotiate for food. You're going to sell your art to

(45:10):
a dealer first, convert that intowhatever form of spendable money we have at
that point, And the same thingwould apply to your silver and gold coins.
Some people have asked, you know, what would happen in that worst
case scenario, you know, completededollarization or a value of dollars going to
zero. So, now, howdo we conduct commerce at all? I

(45:31):
mean, how do we even functionas a world? First of all,
I see that as a really unlikelyscenario only because it would really bring the
entire world's economy simultaneously to a speechinghault. You know, the United States
imports most of its food and wepay for that with US dollars. How
does that function if the dollar isworthless? How are we buying the food

(45:52):
initially that your grocery is stockpiling foryou to come in and buy if the
dollars are useless? And then secondly, how do we as individuals? What
do we all show up with papermoney and the grocer says, I'm sorry,
I'm not accepting that as a formof payment, So what are my
options? Well, if I havea handful of real silver coins, I

(46:13):
might be able to say to him, Look, this is silver. Everybody
knows that these are issued by theUS government. There's no question that they're
legitimate and real and actually made ofsilver. And how many of these will
it take for me to buy thesecouple bags of food that I need.
We might have a negotiational point thatwe can work from. But I would
think at that point, if thedollar really had gotten that bad, the

(46:36):
value of silver and silver coins wouldexplode and they would be so in demand
that only the fortunate people who alreadyhad them would even be in that position
to have that option, because Ithink everybody else would be scrambling trying to
first get their coins when the papermoney now is beginning to erode to nothing.

(46:57):
I mean, simultaneously, you're goingto have what couple one hundred million
Americans suddenly waking up and saying,holy crap, my money's worthless. I
have to negotiate with something. Ibetter go buy some silver. So I'm
going to call Fred now, well, good luck. There would probably be
one hundred thousand calls ahead of you, and honestly, the only people getting
silver or gold coins at that pointare going to be the ultra wealthy.

(47:19):
I mean, the average person wouldbe left in the lurch waiting. So
I would encourage people to make sureyou have your stash pile of gold and
silver long before any kind of massiveeconomic crisis. But getting back to the
main point, how is it negotiable? Again? I would think there would
be a conversion first to a goldand silver coin dealer, then using whatever

(47:42):
that capital is, and then usingthat to make your purchases again, unless
it came to the point where thepaper has completely lost all of its value,
and then we're just simply trying tonegotiate as best we can. And
look what I'd rather be in thatposition where I had real money at that
point, I get it. Butlook what after the Deutsche mark. You
know, in Weimar first World Wartwo. I mean, it took a

(48:04):
whole wheel barrel full of Deutsche marksto buy a loaf of bread. So
you know, if it gets tothat point. And I'm not saying that
history won't repeat itself. I meanthis is the phobia that has permeated America.
And I mean you're on the frontline of this thing. You obviously
understand that it could happen again.Tim and Michigan. You're on the phone
with Fred Rszchewski. Go ahead,two quick questions. If somebody was to

(48:29):
have a ten pound bar of silver, would you be wise to change that
to coin of any kind? Andtwo? What about I bought quite a
bit of Canadian silver, just thinkingif the American government changes the rules that
maybe Canada wall blah blah some tothat scenario. Can you talk about that?

(48:49):
Thank you? Yeah, Well,the first part, I would probably
at some point convert that silver barin the coins, but I wouldn't rush
to do that necessarily tomorrow. Imean, and it's not something I think
you need to do immediately. Ithink there'd be a benefit to doing it,
so I would do it at somepoint. But because you own that
physical silver bar, I'm presuming physically, I think you're fined to just hang

(49:12):
on to it at some point.If you add more to your silver,
I would just do it in theform of the coins and at some point
perhaps convert that silver. The Canadiansilver doesn't operate any differently than any other
billion product, so in the US, the way the Treasury Department and the
IRS view it, it's just ouncesof billions. So Canada has produced one
of the most popular gold coins,the silver coins. The mayple leaf very

(49:36):
popular around the world because of itspurity and the whole concept there was recognizable
nature of an ounce of silver orgold. If somebody shows me a maple
leaf, I don't feel compelled asa dealer to want to drill a hole
in it and find out if it'sreally gold. I accept the notion maple
leafs are well defined and well madeand their gold so they can be tradable.

(49:59):
But they are bullion products, boththe silver Canadian and the gold Canadian,
so they will follow those same IRSregulations. Now, what about the
year I need? Yeah, goahead, Well, I'm gonna say,
is there any deficit like do youtrust Mexico? Do you trust their gold
and silver coming out of Mexico tobe one hundred percent pure? And that's

(50:22):
why I went with Canada, becauseI figured that they're probably one of the
safer bests for a foreign coin.Yeah, I think you're fine there.
You know, I've seen Mexican goldforever. In fact, you know,
Mexican silver dollars have been around,Spanish silver dollars been around long before even
the US had its first silver coin, so they're very viable. And again,
all of them tend to operate mostlyas a bullion product. There's not

(50:45):
much of an issue with with purity. When it comes to silver coins.
The bars can be a little moretricky. You know, I've seen fake
silver bars, and I've seen fakegold bars, and I've seen fake platinum
bars. So you know, whenit comes to a struck bar, you
know, there are some well knownrefiners Johnson Matthew Credit, Suee Sengle Heart.

(51:06):
These guys are world renowned refiners thatpeople again effectively accept the notion that
once they put their stamp on something, it's legit. So I wouldn't worry
too much about the authenticity of whatyou're buying. I would just say that
you, and I would say thisto everybody. I think any form of
physical silver or gold that people own, I don't care if it's Mexican,

(51:30):
Canadian hot doors, it doesn't matter. I still think that's better than paper
money. I just find amongst thedifferent forms of physical silver and gold in
all the years I've been doing this, there's definitely kind of a leaning benefit
to having the US coins one recognizablytradable in the US, very easily,

(51:50):
tens of thousands of ready dealers makinga market every day, fixed supplies and
known quantities. And I think Americansshould own legally currency. I think it
should be a part of what weeach have as American citizens. I think
we're stronger as a nation the moreof us that are not counting on that
field currency, and we appreciate that. Thanks Tim for your call. Mike

(52:14):
and Alaska, you're on the phonewith Fred Drzshewski. Go ahead. Top
ten silver mines produce about two hundredmillion ounces a year. Most of them
are in Mexico, one in Peru, and we only have one here at

(52:34):
Greens Creek Underground Mine in Alaska.So you know in the federal government.
We have the richest mind from silvermine in the world is sitting down in
southern California. It's called the KellyMine, and they won't let them open
pit, so that's been put onpermanent, indefinite holds. But I think

(52:58):
the best tool you could have,Fred is a rare earth magnet, because
I just bought a couple of Ibought it. I bought two maple leafs
in a lot sale, and Imade a mistake of not going a reputable
dealer like you or someone else.But uh, they're magnetic, and here

(53:20):
they're supposed to have the most bulletprooflaser micro etching. There's a little panel
under there with a maple leaf onthere, and I couldn't believe it.
So, yeah, stick to amagnet, folks. So if you ever
stick a magnet to something that's supposedto be gold of silver and it sticks,
you have a problem. Thanks forthat one, Mike, I appreciate

(53:44):
it now. Yeah, Perret Schulberactually uh repels. Yes. And you
know, production of silver from themines in the US was a huge part
of why we have silver dollars.From the eighteen seventies, they were massive
finds, you know, the Comcasthold the hordes that they found in Nevada.

(54:05):
I mean, it was incredible theamount of silver that was produced.
And of course the huge goal findsSutter's Mill and the goal finds in northern
Georgia in eighteen thirty eight, wherethe first goal was actually found in America,
was actually found on the East coast. Most people think of Sutter's Mill,
but actually was found in Northern Georgiafirst. And we produced so much
silver, and the silver producers wassuch a powerful force. They actually helped

(54:30):
elect presidents. They were a majorpower force behind the politics of the early
nineteen hundreds. So the production ofphysically we I appreciate that. Thanks Mike
for your call. See Mike likesto mind gold and silver, so he
loved He's in the no on thatFred. The ear's the thing before we
go, because we got about aminute left. Here you have the a

(54:52):
box of twenty pre nineteen twenty oneMorgan silver dollars and these are ms sixty
four, which is mint state forthose of you that don't know what that
means, which means they're in verygood quality condition at twenty three hundred box
and of course these have been certifiedby Fred Right, certified by NGC as
we lose speed certified by I thinkwe did well. Hopefully I'm still here.

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Yep, are we there? I'mhere? Can you hear me?
Anyway? This is Uscoincapital dot comis the website US coin Capital C A
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starting out, it would off usto have that because you know, comment
on the screen if the dollar isn'tworth much. And just remember, folks,
we are dealing in fiat currency.We're dealing in Federal Reserve notes,
notes or promises to pay, andthat is a problem because when you have
all that debt floating around, you'regiving debt for debt. You need something

(55:58):
with intrinsic value. And that's whywe have what we have in gold and
silver coins. Fred Dashevski, thanksso much for joining us US coin Capital.
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