Real N Rare interview with BKFC Welterweight Ryan Peterson

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
All right, what is up Combat sports fans, We are
back for another episode of The Real and the Rare
and joining me this afternoon this evening, depending on time
zones where you're catching us from, mister Ryan Ryue Pearson.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
How are we doing today?

Speaker 3 (00:39):
I'm doing well, sir. How are you?

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I'm great? Where did Ryu come from?

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Man?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
What are you an old head?

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (00:45):
You know?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Street Fight one?

Speaker 3 (00:46):
I am an old head.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
I'm hello old, but two just from being a kid,
you know, back in the day going to the arcade
or going to the pizza joint downtown and playing Street
Fighter two back when it was out. My boy Jason
just started calling me Ryu. And really it's been that
way since I was six. I've been called Ryu since
even before I started fighting or anything like that. So
if anybody has a mix up of a Ryan in
the gym, they always say right you, Ryan or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
So I've been called right you forever.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
That's the way to do it, brother, Yeah, And I'll
say this much, doing it the right way.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
I have a I have a thing. Man.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
You cannot give yourself a nickname, having someone else give
you the nickname, giving you your moniker. That's how it's done.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
You can't. You cannot self proclaim.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
It agreed, agreed, and that, and that gets laid out
that way. That way. Somebody else pointed out, you could
name yourself whatever you wanted to.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
It don't stick. It's got to be from somebody else.
But like I said, my boy Jason gave it to me.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
It's stuck. And it's been that way, like I said,
since I was six years old. So that's the case.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
That's that's the way. That's the way it is. Brother.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
So as we were talking beforehand, got got the beautiful scenery.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Behind you, Yes, sir, out here, I live on a
ranch out here in northern California.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
I got a homestead.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
We raised all our own animals for food, have a garden,
or we trade a lot of times with people just
left out here alone to our own device.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
I like that. I like being sovereign.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
I like being left alone as independent as possible.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
The way you do it man, like uh, you know,
I think over the last month interviewing fighters too.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
You know, two different fighters I've talked to off the grid.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, you know, get get their own means, and you
know they really ever go to the supermarket for that,
you know, I had his own chickens.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
He was like, I got my own eggs.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
So it's like, yeah, with the other gentleman, what was
his name, he just fought on the Connecticut card.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
You can message me after. I'd be interested to see
who that was. But yeah, we got chickens, chickens, We
had cows. They're gone right now. Those guys said to
slaughter pigs cheap the sheeps that are about to have
lambs here in a day now, So.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, we do all that.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Man, it was Drew Nolan.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Okayrew Nolan. I'll check him out.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Cool, he like legitimately collects his own ringwater the whole mind. Nice.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Good, good for you.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Good interview from like his little his little perch where
he normally hunts.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
So cool. Nice, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
But yeah, I mean, like, like I said, I've been
seeing a whole lot more athletes doing it that way.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
You know.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
I think that, you know, it's.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Not hard to kind of find the training. I mean
in the day and age we're in now, Like if
we're talking twenty years ago, the way technology is connecting
with people with a whole lot harder than what.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
You see now.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
So like I think that being able to you know,
live off the land, live on your own. You know,
you don't really you know, have too many people to
kind of mess with your environment, so to speak.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
It's yeah, yeah, well that's you know, obviously there's pros
and cons to all this.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
The pros are left alone. I get to kind of
do as I please.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
I know what goes into all my food. Privacy is
a major issue. But also here's the cons. Though I'm
a little bit far away from people, it's hard to
get to things sometimes it's hard. I actually live not
too far from the gym, luckily, but I have a
gym here at my house too, and I'm in humbold
County to where we're shut off from the rest of

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the world and literally probably every winter we've got.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
I think.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
You can either come in on Highway one O one
or Highway thirty six, and there's also another Highway two
ninety nine, and every winter these highways slide, so you're
landlocked for a lot of the winter, so things don't
come and go out of here. So it could be
a bit challenging, but you know, I've made it happen.
I left for a while to to go train and
go to different gyms, lived up basically in Canada. They

(04:52):
lived up there for five years to just get training
in and pursue what I wanted to pursue.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
You guys take the pros of the cons with it.
Sometimes my friend, uh, I say no matter what, Like
you know, like I said, you could you can call
training partners in the company, like, hey, like, come stay
in the ranch for.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
A few weeks, let's get some work.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
It's so much.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Easier to do that than, like I said, than it was,
you know, fifteen twenty years ago, when you know, combat
sports really kind of making its rise, and you know,
we see what what what has been done here over
the la what Filman has been able to do over
over the last handful of years. I've been asking a
lot of a lot of athletes this, especially the combat

(05:40):
sports ones. Do you don't you feel the UFC is
kind of leveled off and the gap between you know,
b KFC and some of these other you know, even
boxing itself has kind of stepped back back up into
the limelight a little bit.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Alloh, you got date data White promoting boxing now. But
the only you feel BKFC is probably one or two
big big I wouldn't they even say free agent.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
It's just big, big moments to completely uh fill in
that gap between where the UFC used to be and
where they are now.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
You know what's funny is I actually I'm not I
actually don't really even watch fights, but I could say
this and I think that by far, the BKFC is
the most exciting one to watch.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
You know, the action is fast around, everybody's pressing the
pace and a lot of knockouts, which is what people
are going for, you know, with what the fans want
to see. But I just feel like, yeah, it's the
most exciting thing that's going right now. So you know,
what a blessing to have this platform as then here,
you know, it's only been around for seven years and
it's just taken off like a rocket. You look at

(06:48):
UFC in its first seven years, it was still kind
of underground until basically what two thousand and five with
the Forrest Griffin Stephan Bonner fight on The Ultimate Fighter.
Then you know they got some rocket fuel in their system.
But hey, you know, the future is the future is brighton.
There's only one way and that's up for PKFC.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
It is And I'm not even gonna say just bare
knuckle in general regardless.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
You know, yeah, I agreed, agreed to e y By.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
They have a great platform and put and put on
great fights and have some of the top fighters in
the world there.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
And you know, we even seen over over the late
last week.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Uh you know, your your female featherweight champion and there
featherweight champion kind of trading barbs there for for for
a bit. I mean, I think I would hope like
at some point in time over the next ten years
we see something like what we've seen with the UFC
in Pride at one point in time where you have
a co promotion, you really find out who the best

(07:44):
fighters in the world at X weight class, at b
waight class, at sea way class.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
You know, yeah, that's I mean, that's always going to
be a question until that it's answered. But again, you rarely,
I mean very few times obviously the UFC and Pride
actually get to have a cross promotion Brook chucklate it
went over there. Trying to think who else went over
for a while, maybe just been Chuck back in the day, right,
But that's a tough one obviously when business gets involved,

(08:10):
because money gets involved, who wants to you know, who
wants the lion's share of the promotion or the gate
or whatever it might be. But even so, that's you know,
all the people that got involved in Baron Knuckle got
into it just you know, to see where they're where
they're at in the game.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, it's a it's it's a great time in combat sports.
I say, like from from where it's grown. You know,
I guess you know, the streaming apps, like, you know,
you've seen so much stuff happen to kind of make
it easier for for some some of.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
The athletes to be seen.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
You don't, you know, you don't necessarily uh you know,
even the pay per view model, it looks like it's
almost dying or completely going to be dead with it
with a matter of a few years.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
So it's a it's an interesting time in the combat
sports world. I say that way.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, agreed, Agreed, it is it isn't. I don't know, if.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
You know, sometimes I look at the platforms obviously, like
I said, I don't really watch too many fights actually,
but you know, you've got the ESPN Plus thing where
you have to subscribe to ESPN plus plus pay for
the fight, which I think that's kind of a bit
of a hassle, and I think that there probably will
come up with some way to mitigate.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Well, I mean that whole concept licensing deals on, and
I think there's a good possibility we're gonna see it
on multiple different different avenues.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
I don't know if we're.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Gonna still have I think that they've ESPN has removed
you know, half of the library or off of there,
so I think, uh, you know, I wouldn't be.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Surprised if we see you know, a little Netflix.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
And a little little Amazon, you know, you know, maybe
you do see a bit a big network like an
NBC Sports or you know, ABC Sports whatever, you know,
I think you'll see them on that where you won't
have you won't have that that pay per view all
more anymore, and it won't be it won't be so
hard to sit there, you know, you know, pay for
UFC fight Pace and pay for ESPN plus yeah, having

(10:03):
to pay for the pay per views on top of it.
I think it'll it'll help the UFC kind of. I
think their biggest problem lately is just you don't you
don't have that star power. You have a handful of
guys that are about to retire.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
You just see the John Jones, the BAC will.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Kind of kind of come and go, but they don't
like they're losing a lot of a lot of their
they're big stars that that that really perform for them.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
You know.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
It's uh, it's interesting obviously, you know. Uh, you know,
no one's a star until they until they get that
big fight and then you know they kind of really
kind of blow up throughout the world. But uh, it's
it's one of those things that I think they're lacking
the star power and it's because of a b k
f C coming in and and a lot a lot
of the guys and girls who who used to fight

(10:51):
for for for for the bigger promotion coming, they prefer
to just you know, uh, concentrate on bare knuckle you know, yeah,
one of the pure things of combat sports.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
If you ask me, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Well, let's you know, I think anytime Mom asked about
my opinion about bare knuckles, say, this is original combat.
The very first fight that ever happened in history was
a bare knuckle fist fight, you know what I mean,
no doubt, I have no doubts about that.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
So this is original combat.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
Man a man whatever, woman to woman whatever, you want
to say, and just a bare knuckle, bare handed scrap
and that was that's the way history started.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
And here we are again.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
It's an you know, interesting time. You know, throughout the sport.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
The only thing that I think is really kind of
a scratching my head right now is you heard about
what's going on with Ben Askern right now?

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Right?

Speaker 3 (11:45):
You know what I kind of have. I don't have
a whole lot of idea.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
I did see something this morning about Jake Paul talking
about he needs a double lung.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
The initial thing is going on he was hospitalized.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Ago or something, and now like he's looking to to
to get into to have have this surgery, and now
the freaking insurance company.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Has is denying him the surgery because it costs too much.
You know, we're in this state.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
And in the comment that Jake made was like, obviously
he's gonna make a donation and things and things of
that nature. But you know, you know, he's taught some
of the biggest stages. He's one of one of the
more decorated UH wrestlers point blanket period. Yeah, would you

(12:40):
hear you know here here about Ben Askering? He it's
you know his wrestling is is it's some of the
top here in the United States. He's fought you know,
he was a champion for belt or he fought for
the UFC. You would assume someone in between there would
would step in and make sure this this, uh, the
surgery happens. And it's yeah, it sucks that a guy

(13:03):
like Jake Paul you know, is sitting there like, oh, well,
you know, I'm gonna step in into and take care
of it.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
It's just it shouldn't get to that point.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
It shouldn't get to the point where it has to
come across Jake's desk, Dana White desk, in anyone's desk,
and the medical companies need to do this. Is that
something you worry about as you get older, like you
know how it is to cover yourself for insurance?

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Well, yeah, that's you know, obviously that's just a big,
big issue overall in our country. But insurance is such
a scam, the fact that you could just pour tons
of money into it for you know, from the beginning
of time and then at the end they just say, no,
we're not doing that, We're not paying for it. My
aunt and uncle here in California, fire insurance. This says
nothing compared to what Ascar's dealing with. I feel just

(13:47):
terrible for his family. But here, my aunt and uncle,
they live down the way from me. Here, they paid
They paid home insurance on their place.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
They own their home. They paid home insurance on their.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Pace for the last forty five years or so, buyer insurance,
all this kind of stuff. Well, California obviously has a
lot of fires. So the insurance company just ups and
drops him, doesn't give him opportunity, doesn't give anything.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Just drops him.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
And yet here they've paid, you know, over two hundred
thousand dollars into this for somebody to just say, nope,
we're not covering anymore. They got nothing out of it.
They never had a claim, never in this in all
these years that they had a claim. And yet the
insurance company it's because all right, you're done. And here's
that's the thing here with Askrin, he's paid into his
insurance potentially whatever whatever insurance he might have, or is

(14:28):
asking an Olympian as well.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
I'm not sure if he was an Olympian. I knew
I knew he was, you know, you know, NCAA champion.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
Okay, either way, you figure that somebody with you know,
his prestige and the things he's accomplished, that there might
be something set up for somebody willing to come and help.
And although I do believe in people being independent taking
care of their stuff, he's given a piece of himself
to a lot of people. And it's really a slap
in the base to everybody that is dealing with the

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insurance companies. You know, that makes you, uh, this is
exactly when people get a bitter taste in their mouth
to these size and then people like that Luigi gentlemen
going tap that dude that everybody applauds and nobody gets
upset about it, and people say, oh, you're sick for that,
But it's it's people end up building a vendeta against
these companies because of behavior like this.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, I mean, it's listen, it's probably the most what
you mentioned, you know, what what your parents went through
with uh, you know, uh fire insurance and all that disgusting,
especially with what was going on the on there in California.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
You know exactly.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
And it wasn't just you know, it wasn't just your
you know, your regular people like you you had, you know,
Hollywood stars, you know, you know, actors, things of that
nature that you know, scrambling to make sure that that
they were taking.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Care of it.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah, more so like I heard like water was shut
off in the area, like like like some of the
stuff that was coming out with disgusting.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
And then again, you know, you.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
See the insurance companies, uh, you know, getting getting more
dirt thrown on their name.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
As Yeah, they always come out on with the upper hand,
and that's where people get, uh you know, they end
up building ah, you know, building a case against these
type of companies for behavior like that. You know, it's
ill behavior, it's it's it lacks integrity to do something
like that, to say, hey, we're gonna drop you even
though you've paid into it.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
How about you give me.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
All my money back because you actually never ensured a thing,
you know, and then in the case that maybe you
are paying into your insurance, maybe they even just deny
your claim as it is. You know, there's all sorts
of there are all sorts of ways to weave these
type stories. But they're not in business because they're losing money.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
I'll tell you.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
That goes the same with you know, casinos and things
like that. They're not in business because they're handing out cash.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
I'll tell you that.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
I mean, you see it all the time, Like professional gamer.
It's like, oh you you're.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Either bane from from from the casino, or you can't
play this specific game. You can do this, you can
do that, you can't play blackjack, or you can't play
crap Like what is this?

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Yeah, yep, yep, exactly here.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
You know, you're basically if we can't scam you, then
you can't be here.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
And that's kind of the message that's sent in a way.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Such as the world we live in these days.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Yep, it is a it's a strange place.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
I'm a pro capitalist, but sometimes I look at some
of the things that are going on.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
I just think, this is not it's not ideal.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
It ain't.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
It ain't it's it's it's a it's it's a wonky
world we live in.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
Yeah, at times it can be. So you're gonna find
your blessings and keep all of those.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
We see all kinds of crazy stuff. Like I said,
you know, I was mentioning John Jones retirement. He's been
basically left put the UFC on the hook for for
for about a good year or most and then you know,
days minutes hours. Answer is is uh his retirement that
he's got more legal trouble.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
And yeah, I saw something about, uh, has he got
another arrest coming or something along those lines.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
It looks like it.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
And they have some audio apparently, like I guess the
woman was saying John was driving and then John, you know,
obviously denying the fact that the not just that was
just threatening them, like like, you know, it's not the
first time I've threatened somebody this year.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
You know, my my brother's killers are killers. Wow. Third,
I'm like, if I'm a lawyer, I'm running. I'm like, yeah,
I'm good. This this is this is.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
A whole whole ship show.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yeah, that's not you know, that's not behavior you want
to be involved in.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
Obviously, Like I say, that kind of ship lacks in
tebrity and uh to behave that way, it's it's too bad,
especially for such a wonderful athlete like him. The guy's
probably the greatest of all time in m m A.
But yet can't keep his head on his shoulders. And
I remember I did see the other day when this
came up. I saw a video of DC he talking
about that, saying that he's got a gal that a
pr gallop that he's like you can see it in

(19:04):
her eyes that she just knows that this guy is
always going to be causing trouble. So that really is uh,
you know, just obviously trash for him, trash for his family.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
That that sucks, you know what I mean. So it's
a it's a shame.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
I mean, I'm gonna bring this one up off of that.
You know, you said he's arguably with the greatest of
all time. You know, uh, no losses that you know,
no no one considers the the Matt Hammill fight at that.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Yeah, that.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
I've ever seen anyone ever take. Yeah, this locates his
shoulder on the first takedown. On the fight, John was
throwing twelve to six. As they stop it, he points
out his shoulder. You know, he loses the fight that way.
Is a terrible way as an athlete to lose a fight.
That being said, you know, we've seen John Jones do
the do the whole uh Ount Rushmore list is like,

(19:56):
here's you know John Jones list, you know himself, Demetrius
Mighty Man, Johnson, TSP and Anders and sofa. I always
like to ask us it's it's still probably unfair. But
if you had your own Matt Rushmore of combat sports,
it doesn't necessarily just have to be m MA. We
can do boxing, what what what whatever? Who would be
your your your your four athletes? You you would put

(20:17):
Matt Rushmore on for combats? Wow?

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (20:20):
Okay, So for for man, I got to say, I
think that John Jones probably the greatest, although I do
you know, I Admira, Demetrius and Meira and Silva at
GSP all think all those guys are great, But I
think that John really has almost.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
No Flusky's game Pittings went. So I probably put John
up there.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Mike Tyson just for the sheer impact that Mike had
on on on my life and and in boxing, although
his his career is actually kind of a quick flash
compared to some of these guys that went through the decades.
Oh boy, I'm trying to think who else I had
put on there.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Shoot. Then I started thinking, let me think of kickboxing.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
You gotta go probably Ernesto hoo'st for kickboxing, and I'm
gonna think of a wrestler. I'm gonna put Dan Gable
on there. I just picked basically, try to pick one
from each sport. I put Dan Gable on there as well.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah, there you go, got got got literally covered the
entire mix.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
I tried to go through each one there. So I'm
a big fan of Gable, big fan of gables work ethic.
I never wrestled growing up, but I'm a giant fan
of Dan Gable.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, you know he's Yeah, when we're talking about USA wrestling,
that's uh, that's one of the names that's that's synonymous.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
So yep, yep, you know that's I.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Don't have any I don't have any gripes with with
your interpretation of your list.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Cool, cool, So another one I go through.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
I came across this meme the other day and and
it just cracks me up, right, you know, you see
see the retarded guy from from uh the South Park,
but NNA bloggers use the term fraud check. I hate
this work.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
I do.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
I I really do, because sometimes you get some of
these athletes and they're highly tatted from other sports. They're
highly tatted for this reason or that reason, and eventually
at some point in time, you know, very few fighters
get out of the game like John Jones, where you
don't get figured out and exposed inside of the cage.
That that's why he's on you know, the mount Rushmore

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list is the greatest of all times lists. And I
have a problem with with with with the goat talk period.
It doesn't matter what we're talking about, because there's so
many different variables, uh, you know, like you know with
eight classes men or women you know, uh, you know
which which.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Era are we talking about?

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Like there's so many different variables when we're having this conversation,
and then like you know, oh, well Ronda Rassi was
fraud checked. Well, if it wasn't for Ronda Rauci, women
women would have never made it to the UC so
as much as oh well she was a one trick PODi.
But then now you're having conversations with her, now she

(23:01):
was she was basically walking around unconscious.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Half the time.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Yeah, So I've actually never seen that meme or that.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
So the term is basically somebody might be full of
shared or they haven't been tested.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Is that the uh, like basically fraud checked.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
You know who is the bo Nickel you know, lost
his fight recently and they were like, oh he's been
fraud checked.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
I'm like he's a wrestler.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
Yeah, I mean that's a funny thing to say, because hey,
all these guys are working their asses off and it's
a fight. Anything can happen in a fight. You get caught,
you could have somebody that wins. Look at GSP and
Matt Sarah. I mean, nobody gave Matt Sarah a chance
in that first one. It's a fight. GSP got caught,
ESP came back and beat him. But that doesn't mean
he's a fraud. It's a fight, and that's Hey, there's

(23:47):
a winner and there's a loser in a fight, and
that's just what happens. You know, I wouldn't I wouldn't
take away anything from anybody that's uh getting in there.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
And that's the nuts, you know.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah yeah, I mean, like I said, it's it's a
saying that I can't stand. I really can't because there's
so many different things that goes on in the fight.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Mentally, Yeah, yeah, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Like you know, bait, you could have a you know,
a really tough matchup this. You know, one of your
one of your non strengths is you know, you know,
cage grappling or just wrestling in general, and you wind
up getting put in there against a world world class,
you know, uh, you know, wrestler, and then you wind
up being put on your pack for for you know,

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fifteen minutes, twenty five minutes.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
However, winds up, winds up working out.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
So it's it's it's one of those terms I just
really can't stay and like, listen, you know, styles make fights.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
I've said it for the longest.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Time, and you know, you know, we're all as as
mixed martial arts is concerned, you know, it's the ultimate test.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah, absolutely, I agree.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
We're talking boxing, wrestling, jiu jitsu, judo, I mean, every like,
there's so many different things and even like you we're
seeing you know, of karate combats blowing up of fairly
big over the last few years, and you know, there's
just so many different aspects to it. I just can't
stand them. When when people just want to tear an

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athlete down and.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
Yeah, yeah, well again, it's like it shows that guy
at the computer obviously a guy that had done shit
or nine times.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
And that's the funny part why I chose that one,
because nine times that attend the person that's in there
saying this person's the worst fighter in the world.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
They look like that well, and not only that, what
the fuck is there? What does their opinion mean?

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Anyways? What have they accomplished? You know?

Speaker 4 (25:36):
And again too, you have to does this person's opinion
actually hold weight? Does it actually hold water if we
put it to the test, or is it just somebody
just spouting off? You know, you've got eight billion people
on earth, eight billion different opinions and perspectives. You got
to figure which one you got to put, you know,
that you could put your money on.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
There's probably very few.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's funny you say it that
way too, because like I did an interview with with
Jessicay prior to her fight in Texas, and this guy
will she's just an average fighter.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
I'm like, have you even listened to.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Anything that's happened to this woman over the last three years?
She had a parasite that's bigger than you. Wow, you know,
ravaging her her muscles, her her nutritions in her body,
and this, that, this, that, and the third I looked
at our way and I'm like, good god, that's that's
probably the best that she's ever looked in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
So uh, And then like you're sitting there saying like, oh,
she's this, and she's that.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
I'm like, you're tearing her apart and you're not even
paying attention to what's going on. And then she winds
up beating, you know, a world champion boxer in in
her b KFC debut at the back.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
I'm like, what about now? Like, oh, well she got lucky.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
Yeah right, Um, there's an old quote. The harder I work,
the luckier I get, you know. Yeah, so it's all
that's all hard work.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Man.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
She didn't go in there untrained and nothing like that.
Just happened to flip the coin the right way that night.
You know, somebody she was determined, had the audacity to
do it and went for it. So yeah, you know what,
something too it is I'm not really big. I'm not
really big on people that mouth off.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
I'm not really big. I'm not a shit talker myself.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
I feel like this is a respectable endeavor, the fact
that it's just two people going head up. So that's
that's one thing with me is I've never been much
for never been much for talking. I'm not much for
the internet literally actually right live, I didn't even have
the internet until last November, so I don't have cable.
I don't have internet none of that, so's not my scene.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, and I don't know if you've seen there's a
video of uh one of the former Ultimate Fighter wunner winners.
He was in the crowd, right and he's I guess
like he was just throwing his hands around and.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
He turned wo clipping of the fans. But I think
it was funny. It was his name.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah, this guy, he was at the one thirty seven
way ins and he woked up.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Luckily didn't knock the fan. The fan.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
The fan was cool about it, you know, wasn't one
of one of one of those d bags like, oh
well I'm.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Going to sue because this is this is the UFC fighter.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Oh wow, well good hopefully hopefully that sticks. Then then
they just yeah, they don't.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
The craziest things happened, not just in the in the cage,
but that fight. Sometimes you just said, yeah, on what
goes on in the sport from time to time.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. That's a wild one.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
You know, again, it could have been somebody else and
they want to fake an injury or do something crazy,
try to sue, you know, so good go that way.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
The combat sports athletes doesn't have enough protection like when
it comes.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
To stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
So yeah, right, huh, I agree.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
I'll just leave it at that, but I want to
get into your fight a little bit.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
I mean obviously that you know, they they made the announcement,
you know, fight night here in Philly.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
David Feldman's keeping his as he's already.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Been been the Philly you know, was it now three
times in seven months?

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yeah? This will be number three?

Speaker 1 (29:09):
The uh you get the the main slat there against
against dust uh Dustin Peg.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
How excited are you for this matchup?

Speaker 1 (29:17):
July twenty fifth, the uh, the twenty three hundred arena
here in South Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
How excited our few this matchup?

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yeah? I'm excited. Man. I feel like this is.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
You know, I feel like part of it is destiny,
which might sound a little bit wild, but I just
feel like, truly I was born for this, man, I
was born for this game, and I love it. I
love bearing up fighting, and uh, what a wonderful thing
to have it at this venue as well. I'm an
old school wrestling fan, so I love old school e
c W. I just find that to be a good omen.
Dustin seems like a respectable dude. So I'm excited, man,

(29:54):
I'm excited. He seems like the type guy that you know,
hit shake your hand before, shake your hand after, and
we'll go to war while we're in there.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah, he definitely does seem seems one of those respectful,
humble guys.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
You know. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
You see some of these fighters and all they do
is yeah, yeah, yeap, yeah, like you know, the Jake
Pauls of the world.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
You know, I was already mentioned what was going on
with Jessica Borga and uh and Jamie Driver over the
past week.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
You're just you have some fighters that talking is there
is there game, and that's how they that's how they
get matchups.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
And fights, and some yeah, are literally the the epitome
of what a martial artist is it it's yeah, it's
and and it's it's respect.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
It's funny like.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Anymore, right, Yeah, well it's funny that you know, it's
somewhat I don't know, ironic or coincidental that my nickname
is right you and I really resonate with the character
Ryu from Street Fighter, just pursuing bettering yourself through fighting
through martial arts.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
I just I feel that to my core, I grew
up screw man.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
I grew up just being an idiot on the streets,
and this is exactly what turned my life around. I
was getting in street fights every single day, hurting people,
having dreams about being locked up because I was just
you know, couldn't hold my insecurities down, couldn't hold my
temper or whatever it might be. And started going to
the gym and that turned my life around. So I
feel like, you know, that's just part of the blessing

(31:23):
that martial arts can do, getting communities involved in martial
arts to produce things like that, to give that blessing
of just a strong community or a strong person, a
strong individual with self belief, self esteem, you know. And again,
people could talk themselves into fights as far as you know,
on the television and pay per view and all that

(31:44):
kind of stuff. But I really think that that is
just the antithesis of martial arts. And actually I'm kind
of a fan of Jake Paul too, just for what
he's done, even though I don't I'm not much into
the mouth and offer and all that kind of stuff.
Get I give the guy credit for the fact that
here he's really, uh.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
What was he?

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Everybody always bust his ball saying he's a Disney star
or something like that.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
But he's going out there and doing.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
It as one of the you know, one of the
Disney guys.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Yeah, but he's he's doing it though, you know what
I mean. He's put he's put his dedication into his training.
He's got proper coaches. You know, he's not a slouch.
And now people are gonna want to argue and say, oh, well,
why doesn't he fight somebody in their primes and that, Well,
he's not ready to fight somebody that's a you know,
Canelo is much smaller, but he's I know he's called
out Canelo before. But you know, if he was to
fight somebody that was in the top ten in that

(32:30):
uh weight division, I don't think he would find as well.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
But he's fighting good guys.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
He's fighting guys that it takes balls to call him out,
and it takes balls to get in.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
There and just play what you got.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
So I got credit, but I also give him credit
for what he's done for the promotion of boxing. As
far as I believe, he's paying guys pretty well. Here,
he's stepping up to pay or to help out. Ben
Askrin you know that's really I think it's it's a
little bit of gay favre where he plays almost plays
a villain on the U, on the television, on the internet,

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you on social media and this and that.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
But in reality, I think he's probably a good dude.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
See here's my thing with Jake. All the things you
say you respect for him, I do too.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Like how many fighters build up their resume with absolute
trash canes of athletes, he's testing himself on the fly
as he I will absolutely give him credit for that.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Where I I go and and and say this is why.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
I can't I can't do it is one of the
things that I already mentioned. You know, he's he's a
wait bully, that's one. You know he's fighting some of
these older guys. Well, that's gonna happen when you're trying,
when you're when you're building a brand and fight fighting
guys that that that you know.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
You're you're stealing their their their stars so to speak.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
You know, I understood, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
But my thing is like he's getting he's starting to
get there obviously.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
You know last night he fought you know Juli or
Sejo Savez Junior and uh, you know neither one of
them looked like they had a mark left on them.
I didn't watch the fight, so I can't sit there
and say what happened one way or another.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
But he's calling out the champions and the top ten
guys in his weight class, which is.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
What I said. That's what it would take for me
to kind of let off on tearing him down. Listen,
you can only tear him down so far, because you're
absolutely right, He's done so much for the sport of boxing. Yeah,
over the last handful of years. And I still I'll
set it on this program many times. I'll continue to

(34:30):
say the smartest thing he did when he started this
venture was bringing a man to Serrano along with him.
She is an absolute starring. She brings in the you know,
the Puerto Rican community, which in turns brings in the
Mexican community, which is some of the bigger communities as
far as when we're talking about combat sports and boxing.

(34:53):
So he is a marketing genius. I mean, he was
just on one of the bigger shows. He you know,
he wants them hanging up on but he said it
was like, listen, I'm trying to sell pay per views
off of your platform. I can care less what you
say of me, what you think of me, et cetera.
And that's the attitude you should have. I don't care
how he goes about some of the things or some

(35:16):
of that, but that's all part of the pageantry of
what goes on when you're trying to promote and sell
and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
So ye won't.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Tear him down too much.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
But he's starting to get to that point where he's
calling at the right people. He's calling out the guys
that are in his weight class. He's calling at the
guys so that are within his age brackets. So, like
I said, for me personally, the the the Jake Paul
hates kind of calmed down a little bit. But that's
also because he's fighting more and more legitimate guys.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
Yeah, and that'll come. And to be honest with you,
I actually did. I mean, I didn't care for the
idea of him fighting Mike Tyson. I'm the biggest freaking
Mike Tyson fan.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
I love Mike.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
But but you know, obviously it's funny because you know,
you talk with people who are just casuals in man,
they think, but what was all that stuff of Mike
when he was training. It's like, well, you're looking at
five second clips that were spliced together Mike, because obviously
he was with fifty six at the time. And I
respect Jake for the fact that here it was probably
the second of the third round when he hit Mike
with something, it was kind of obvious that, all right,

(36:15):
he could probably take him at any time if he
wanted to, and he didn't.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
He laid off, he didn't give Mike any injuries.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
And I'm sure that he loves Mike just like we
all do, you know so, and again, hopefully that got
Mike a nice payday, Not that that's necessarily what it's
all about, but if fifty six you're not doing it,
Mike's done at all. He doesn't need the glory. He's
doing it for the money, and at least it got
him in good shape too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
I mean, it's like I said, it's one of those
things where you don't want to see somebody like Mike
go in there. And I mean, regardless of what anyone thinks,
I think there was a gentleman's agreement that once one
clipped the other or et cetera, that that there would
be a pullback. I think there was a couple of
times where we all thought Mike, Mike could have put
a put a nice combination together and and you know,

(37:00):
send Jake across the ring and you'd see like you
don't know if it was age or whatever, but like
like you said, when he clipped, when he clipped him,
he and he knew he clipped him, he was yeah, okay.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
You could see it at that point, and that that
changed the tide right there to where it was almost
like he took off the gas a little bit, Mike.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Mike really didn't push the gas on it either.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
I mean, everybody's hoping for for him to come out
guns blazing and just show U just a glimmer of
what you know, a twenty year old tyson is. But
it's just you know, hey, guy's almost sixty years old.
He's got total peace in his heart. So that's good though,
it is it.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
I mean, like listen, I'm sure there are ninety percent
of the people who tuned in that night was praying
and hoping they.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Would see Yeah, yeah, exactly, Mike. And it doesn't always
happen that way.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
Yeah, So a bit of like you mentioned, you know,
the pageantry of it, it's a bit of a WWE
esque type.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
There's a spectacle.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
Involved there, and maybe not the same spectacle that you
would go to if you went to go watch a
real you know, or I don't want to say a
real boxing match, but two guys who were maybe you know,
going for the number one contender spot, are going for
a title, you would see them basically go to war
as this.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
It was more of a.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
Spectacle fight as a lot of pulse fights are, because
that's you know, what he's doing where he's out right now,
rather than fighting just randoms.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
I mean, we see spectacles and all kinds of it
doesn't matter what all right, b KFC. You know, over
the over the past past month, so we're watching uh,
we're watching h b KFC ice.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
You know, yeah, yeah, hockey.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Guys and that has that has a niche to it
as well. It's not like it's just this whole new thing.
I mean, hockey is kind of like completely gone away
from like the enforcers and things of that nature. So
these guys need need somewhere that they want to throw
their hands and you know, I applaud b KFC even
seeing that that that that you know, they needed a

(38:53):
platform to kind of perform on and from what I heard,
the last two events have been pretty amazing.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Yeah, well, it's it's something when you get somebody of all.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
I believe Kevin Smith has got a big.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
A big hand in this. Kevin obviously loves hockey.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
He's a Canadian, he loves hockey, and so hey, when
you get somebody that's passionate about something and they get
to put their heart into that outlet, that's where that's
where genius happens.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
You know.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
That's the same thing Feldman with BKFC. You know, just
what was it yesterday? I think it was where he
put up the post from back in twenty ten where
he said baron knuckle boxing coming soon. They had like
three likes on it, you know, And here was his
vision fifteen years ago, and now it's come to fruition.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
He's got passion involved.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
It's what he wanted to do and it's given everybody
a fantastic platform.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
You know, what the hell would I be doing right now?

Speaker 4 (39:40):
I don't know if i'd be I was a kickboxer
before all this. I don't know if I'd still be
kickboxing at the moment. You know, I might just call
it good, But when when I saw Baron nuckle fighting
come about, I just knew that was for me. And
I just saw it and I thought, this is exactly
what I need to be doing.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
And here it is.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
Now, it's finally, you know, we have finally a wonderful
plat per form. It's a good presentation of a show.
And hey, you know, here we are, here, we are
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah, I mean, and you're not the only athlete, you
know that that has been in that boat, man, Like
You've seen a lot of a lot of fighters from
a lot of different backgrounds, and you know, guys that
are that are probably we're getting close to to the
end of being able to to compete at the level
that they wanted to. And then up, you know, up
comes David Felman with with Bernackle Fighting Championships, and uh,

(40:33):
you know, you know, you can love him, you can
hate him, you can dislike him about this, but he's
given all you all you athletes, you know, another lease
on on on your combat sports dreams. You know, some
people do it, you know, strictly for the notoriety or
or the glory, so to speak, and then some do
it because they just they just love to throw down.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
So I mean, yeah, yeah, this is such hey I'm doing.

Speaker 4 (40:59):
I literally really feel like this is what I was
born for, was born for barre knuckle fighting, and I'm
blessed to have found it. It's blessed to have the
platform a good platform as well, because obviously, you know,
you can do bare knuckle fighting anywhere you wanted to
if you just want to go get a street fight,
but that's not not really an honorable thing to do. No,
I think it's just fantastic, And I think a lot

(41:20):
of these guys as well are finding that surprisingly bare
knuckle training for bare knuckles much easier on your body
than I mean, MMA is training is rough on your body.
Kickboxing was rough on my body. I find this to
be pretty smooth on my body.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
That it's not you know, it's it doesn't put as
much wear and tear as you might think.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Yeah, I mean, like there's people that argue like, oh,
you know, it's barbaric, it's this, It's that like there's
I think the worst thing is just you guys get
cut up a little bit more than you would, you know,
m M A et cetera. Yeah, I think you don't
the long.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Term damage isn't going to be as much as it was.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
You know, if you're if you're boxing or if you're kickboxing.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
Yeah, that's correct. So we have a we participate in
a study. Basically all of us sign a thing that
participates in a study before this, so they're collecting all
the data from all the fights. BKFC has got a
two percent concussion rate as opposed to boxing, which has
an eleven percent concussion rate, So you can see just
I mean, that's a massive difference just you know, only
two percent because obviously in baron knuckle you get people

(42:28):
that get hit and they aside, all right, that was
that was enough damage, or their nose gets smeared across
their face. It's like all right, that's that's good. We
don't have a three knockdown rule, so I mean that,
you know, that is up to the fighter.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
If he wants to keep, if he wants to continue.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
But at two percent concussion rate is quite a bit
better than eleven percent. But we do have a thirty
percent cut rate, which can make it. On paper, it
appeared to be a blood sport, and in a sense
it is, but uh, it's also a skill.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Sport as well, and that's what I gotta ask you.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Like you said, you came from a kickboxing background, you
it's hard to spar when it comes to bare knuckles,
So how do you go about preparing for for like
do like a what do they say a flow spar
or float boxing or things? Because you don't have gloves,
so so defending is different.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
You don't have ways to you know, kind of hide
some of that.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
It's it's definitely not the same.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
You can't. You can't.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
You can't do this other than doing it live to
be honest with you know what I mean, because the
way I tell people and bare knuckle boxing, everything is
of consequence. So whether I'm throwing a punch or whether
I'm getting punched. Right, if I'm throwing a punch, I
have the potential of damaging my hand or in boxing,
you generally are not gonna have damage. Your hand is
fairly well taped up, you have a glove on with
protection over your hand. If you're receiving a punch, you

(43:50):
have the potential of a cut, of being knocked out,
whatever it might be. So you know, everything is of
consequence in this game, So to spar like that, it's
just not the same. People in bare knuckle you might
be tentative to throw something because of that consequence. In boxing,
you could just wing it. You can block with the
with the glove much better. It's really hard to block
with the bare fist, right, Even if I put my

(44:11):
hand up and I get hit, it's still gonna be
there's still gonna be something there, maybe even smashes my
hand up there. So as far as the way I spar,
I generally spar which is normal. I'll do boxers or
MMA fighters, I'll spar with them or you know, kid
boxers whoever just combat sport athletes spar with them in
boxing do clinch work as well. And then there's been
times where I took the like the turtle gloves for MMA,

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you know, and use those uh for sparring as well.
But of course you got to watch your your pace
with that because you start, you know, I think damage
can be accumulated, and sparring with those really easy. But
that's probably been the best way that he could do,
is those small MMA sparring gloves.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Yeah, it's it's not easy, Man's just I think the
only thing is, like you said, it is just just
be being in the fire. Is kind of kind of
the the best feel for over, you know, sparring training,
whatever you can just yep, you know.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
I think it really is just basically watch film on
your opponents, see what the tendencies and weaknesses are, and
kind of attack it that way.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
You know what's funny is I actually I don't watch footage,
Like I said, Man, I really actually hardly watch any
fights at all. I don't watch footage on my opponents.
I maybe see twenty or thirty seconds on my Google
the guy. I don't look at social media. I don't
look at their I don't look at their pages. I
don't look at their Facebook or Instagram.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
I really don't. I just meet them that night and
figure the way.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
I kind of look at it and sayf hey, if
this guy ran upon me in the street, what would happen?

Speaker 3 (45:37):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (45:38):
And maybe that's not necessarily the brightest way, But I
also believe that what you see in there.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
Is different than what you see on television. Right, It's
no different than the armchair quarterback. I'm here, sorry, that's wow.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
There no different than the armchair quarterback in the sense
that you know everybody's yelling the screen.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Why didn't he throw it downfield? Why didn't he do this? Well,
the gentleman throwing the ball the quarterback.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
See what you see from that third personal perspective, and
that's the same fighting as well.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
What you're seeing from the screen is not the exact same.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
Now, of course, you might be able to pick up
a tendency that the individual has, but while you're in there,
you need to apply that. And again, everything is of consequence.
So are you willing to take that step or you're
willing to cross that line? A you're willing to apply
that pressure? And the pressure applied the land what you
think you're gonna land?

Speaker 1 (46:22):
You know?

Speaker 3 (46:22):
And again everything in bare knuckle uh all counts?

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Yeah, it definitely does.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
You know.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
A few more before we before I let you go.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
You know, obviously last night we've seen a double champ crowned,
you know, uh a lately stopped, stopped, Alabarat collected a
second belt obviously, but it makes me go back to like,
who are some of your favorite two weight champions?

Speaker 2 (46:52):
You know, I came across this graphic a few a
few times. You know, we've seen b J.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
Penn oh ay guitar, George Saint Pierre Daniel Cormier. You know, Uh,
I'm a big man of BJ.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
I like BJ a lot. I feel bad for whatever
he's going through right now.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Uh talk about it were We talk about us all
the time, like about people need need to go help
some some of the older athletes so they don't end
up in these situations.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
I believe that if the.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
UFC was still involved in Stephan Bonner's life, he would
still be with us right now.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
Yeah, that's a that's a I mean, that's an interesting,
interesting thought because obviously, you know, it's it's a lot
of what ifs. There are a lot of variables. But
I look at I have a buddy that's involved in
mental health and he mentioned to me a thing called
I think it's called Capgrass syndrome c A p g
R A S cap Grass syndrome, and it's basically describes
exactly what BJ is going through. And I'm not a

(47:47):
psychologist or anything like that, so I can't diagnose him.
But if you look this, you look up cap Grass syndrome,
you'll see it basically fit everything that BJ's talking about.
That he thinks that people are imposters or thinks that, uh,
somebody murdered his family and changed them out, and it's
really a shame to watch that. Of course, you have
social media, you know, saying oh he's on methis and
that I don't know about that. To me when I
see him, he didn't look like he was on meth.
But it's really sad to see what's going on with

(48:08):
him right now. And and in my opinion, PJ I
probably should have put him who I had a different
another person that put on that mountain.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
I love BJ. I'm a big BJ bj pen fan.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
I am too, you know, I was in attendance for
you for UFC one on one here in Philadelphia. Oh wow,
So I thought Kenny Floorian would be like listen, if
Kenny can get into the ground and make it a
jiu jitsu match, he might might have a chance. And
then BJ just beat Kenny Dan submitted and did did

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what what BJ normally does.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
So like, yeah, that was a brilliant performance. That was
prime BJ.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Right, yeah, yeah, that was that was prime BJ.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
And like yeah, like you said, like you know, definitely
concerned one of him. I hope somebody you know, in
the combat sports room reaches out to him and you know,
helps it helps him out in any way that they can.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
But uh, yeah, it is sad to see.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
You know, he is one one of one of my
favorite uh double champs. You know, you know Henry Shudo,
you know, you definitely gotta gotta get tip your cap
to him as well, you know, coming from that wrestling
background and you know, you know, being a two way champion.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Connor McGregor is more.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Of the the the audience he brought in, the his
his effect on the sport as a whole. Yeah, you know,
like he was a great double champ, but uh, you
know we John Jones obviously is you know, tops it,
but I don't give him the full respect to that
because of his retiring and not not fighting Tom Aspinet.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
Yeah as well.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
But I mean, how about this there, the top of
the mountain is always you know, there's always a landslide
going on. For the fact that John Jones held it
for so long, it's really a shame that his personal
life wasn't good. The fact that he held it the top
for so long, despite the fact that there was you know,
big breaks in between. It would be nice if he
was to get in there with every buddy that was
at that you know, everybody the things they're going to
be taking that spot that would be nice. And to

(50:04):
be honestly, I've never seen Tom aspinall fight, so I'm
not certain of that. But uh yeah, that's that's a
different one you mentioned Connor. Connor is like a you know,
a life character that got you know, maxed out on
charisma points, you know, in D and D style, maxed
out on charisma points, and that brought so many people in.
And it's a rare individual to be able to captivate

(50:24):
the world that way.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
So I applought Connor for that.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
You know, he's special for that, Like there's people that
could not it didn't matter what he could be, you know,
eating ice cream and people.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
To people are interested. Yeah, that's something I remember. Back
in the day, there was a website called middle Easy
dot com and I remember they did.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
They used to call them.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
They used to call them what the das Brother of
Ireland and I remember watching something on him. This is
probably back maybe twenty eleven or maybe twenty twelve.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
I remember watching him back then.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
You know, even then when he was fighting was a
Cage Warriors, you could see that he was special. And
then as Momentum group, you know, he set himself apart
from what other fighters were doing. Everybody else was you know,
when they go to the press conference, he'd always be
dressed very nice, but he did the bow tie thing.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
He always stood out.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
He always did something that set himself apart from everybody else,
and that was a fantastic Hey, he's my boss.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Hey me brother, listen, that's what crazy worldver, well, what
I talk about.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
We live in Connormer is your boss.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Yeah, that is weird.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Right, Let's have some stone cold Steve Boston Vincic man action.
Let's get a boss versus employee fight whatever.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
I'm a firm believer that we will never see him
fighting guy.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Yeah, I'm not certain that he definitely doesn't need to write.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
But what I'm saying, I think Jane was right when
he got to a certain amount of money, then he
started accumulating losses and things of that nature that he.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Doesn't have to do it anymore.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Yeah, he's more interested in promoting and growing bare knuckle
and and and you know things along them lines. Even
even I think we would the next McGregor wil piece
he fight is one of his kids.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Hey, that'd be that'd be pretty wild. That'd be cool
to see. Yeah, I think about it. He seems to
have his plateful obviously.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
You know, I've seen there's some political things going on
where he's standing up for the people of Ireland, which
is fantastic. And what a guy to what what an
individual to lead that to go down that path. You know,
he's got he's got the influence in the charisma to
carry that torch.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
I mean if you were if you were like say,
you know, say from a man from you know, from
another country and you see what was going on in
yours and you build your breand up for years out
and saying I'm going to run for president like Connor's doing.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
Yeah, he he could pull it off. I think I
think that they would vote him in my assumption.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
You know, you see the numbers that he pulls on
on pay per viewer.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Can you imagine what happened if he actually reigned and actually, yeah,
political team around him.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
I would hope that he'd have a strong, a strong
cabinet with him, so you know that way that recovered.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Yeah whatever the tears character and he parties too much.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
He does this yeah yeah, yeah, somebody clubs he does that.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
He does this there they would play every every every
political you know.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
Ski every skeleton would come out, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Yeah, I hope, I hope that that the people Island
see better days than if Connor McGregor is the one
that take taken there so be Yeah, but I was
talking about Connor's next next kid being fighting. I don't
know if you've seen this, but did you see that,
uh that bellamere has has has returned.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
And yeah, that's fantastic statement that.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
She's going to compete in the Olympics in eight.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
Oh right on, good, that's that's good.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
Frank mirrors is fantastic and having his kids compete is good.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
Who was she competing in the in the UFC BJJ thing?
Is that what's going on?

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Yeah? Yeah, that's what she was doing. She's taken.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
I think that was her first like big match in
doing anything in two years.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
I know she did a couple amateur MMA fights.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Like like back to back to back to back, and
then Frank I don't know if it was her or
Frank shut it down. Like I think it was like
almost two years from the time that she had done
any anything significant. So I'm interested to say.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Because Frank, I think was was.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
A a rare high breed heavyweight that competed at the
craziest time that there ever was. I mean, you know,
broke Tim Sylvia's arm, you know, yeah, yeah, well he
he he, you know he he kneed Bard brock lesnar
at the height of Brock's career and and things that stopping.

(54:47):
No Garra with with with that, with that, uh, I
will never forget that submission. I remember, Oh, no, Garat's
gonna beat him up. He's I'm like, listen, don't count
Frank Murio.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Guess what.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
I think that's probably has to be one of the
nastiest bone break submissions that we've seen in a higher
promotion like that.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
Yeah. No, Garett took it like a champ too.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
I'm like, oh, well, that's the consequence, right, He wasn't
gonna tap, which is wild, but he took it like
a champ.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
The same thing, Goes. Didn't it happen to h Henzo
and Pride, right?

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (55:24):
I think he had the same uh, same break, but
he had the gel so you didn't see the nasty
arm dangling. Yeah, the same thing, Goes. I was actually
just thinking about that Tim Sylvia fight. I believe herb
Dean was the the ref, right Herb Dean, he'll stop stopping.
I remember Tim Sylvia thinking that, what, there's nothing wrong.
And then when you go back and you watch the yeah,

(55:46):
you see the replay and you see it snap. So
that was probably the That was probably the uh, you know, obviously,
the the ref's there to protect you if something goes awry.
And that was the right call at the time. Whether
Tim Silva you liked it or not, you know, his
arm would have been done. So he just kept going, here's.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
The thing, like, like I know, like you know, Tim
is you know, you know, uh, one of these guys
that you don't have, you don't ever want to make
that you know, you got a broken bone or whatever.
But if he actually threw a punch with that that
arm as of the fact that it'd been it had
been a bad night for him.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
Or let's say Frank just hung onto it, you know
what I mean, hung onto it and wrenched on it more,
what kind of damage would that have been Maybe that
toward you know, ligaments or tendons that are potentially not
able to be repaired. So that was that was the
better call at the time for sure.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Vintage Vintage UFC right there.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Yeah, that's me. That's that's where I you know, that's
the stuff that I remember.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
Like I said, I don't really watch any more fights nowadays,
so it's really hard for me to tell you.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
I probably couldn't even tell you who champs are right now.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
I'm the same way. And I think it's more just
because like.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
I don't I don't know if it was like the
Tough Age where you were just they were pumping out personalities,
like it was nothing like there was almost five six
guys a show that you were invested in. For whatever reason,
I think the UFC relies more on like the social
media side of the side of things that kind of
help athletes grow to an extent where they don't kind

(57:14):
of do that like they used to do those countdown
things where you would you have a thirty forty minute
video of just this whole fighter's life that would get
fans invested in. I don't see that as much anymore
as what we used to see. And I think that's
why you see this complete parody and you don't see
as many big name fighters stars come out of the

(57:37):
UFC just because no one's really it's just it's just
just another guy, another girl going out there for whatever reason.

Speaker 4 (57:45):
Almost could be too much to grasp. There's too much
of a you know, it's flooding the market. You know,
you think back to early two thousands, Remember there was
an event every two months and basically every other every
other event you could have, you know, Robbie Ller.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
Might fight it.

Speaker 4 (57:58):
Let's say, let's say UFC just a number, Let's say
UFC forty eight. Then he would fight on fifty and
just you know, keep rolling like that to where they
would have him.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
It built staples of people, that's for sure.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
And then those guys that have gone that long, which
is pretty amazing that Robbie Loller went as long as
he did, starting from nineteen you know until wait when
whenever the last fight he had. But yeah, there might
be there might be a lot, And I think that's
something with BKFC is I feel like, obviously it's easy
for them to take guys that are already have stars built,

(58:30):
you know what I mean, the guys from other promotions
and they're well known, so you.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Could build promotion off of that.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
But then you're gonna have people that I feel like
myself and other gentlemen that are you know, basically home
grown talent that maybe the world didn't know who we
were before the BKFC, and then now that you know,
that's where our roots are as far as the world knows.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
But I see, I.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Think the funny part is, go and look at the
stars that have signed with bk None of them are champions.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. It's interesting to think about that.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
I mean, it's like, look, it's great to have them, you.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Know, under contract and and attached to what Bare Knuckle is,
but I think it speaks more to what you were
just sitting there saying.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
You know, the guys or girl that maybe didn't have
all the eyes on them are now getting this platform,
getting these chances.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
And you know, Jessica Borgo was was basically nobody, you know,
you know six months ago, a year ago. She she's
bkfc's featherweight champion. Awful looks of it. She's probably gonna
be fighting Christine Christine Fieri arguably you know, the queen
of Baarre Knuckle right right now. Yeah, And so it's

(59:43):
like you see guys like Kay Stewart, like no one
knew who Kay Stewart was, was was two years ago.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
And now he's on a run, man, he's on a runnel.
You know.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
You know, he he was like, you know, just this
this the road, you know, you know, h m M.
A guy he gets here. He's been on the road
last two years. So it's like, yeah, that's what I
like about about Barre Knockle is the the superstars aren't
actually the ones that are the belt holders right now
that they're there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
They're competing, but they're not.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
They're not the ones that that that are making these
runs and get going on on on uh on for
title fights and things and things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
I mean, yeah, you got was Mike Perry, but he doesn't.
He doesn't. He's got a made up belt.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
Well, you know, the thing is is it's a different
it's a different skill set. So you do have people
that maybe didn't they weren't and maybe perhaps they were
middle of the road in MMA, but then they got
into this and then that's really their bread and butter,
and you know, I think that's a different thing. It
goes the same way where you might see a boxer,
like you remember when Pauli Malinaji came in there, everybody
figured he was just gonna tear through uh who's the

(01:00:56):
gentleman that he fought to these dang with McGregor.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
What's the guy's name on the top of my head, Uh,
m Artem leven No, not Atom leven Ardam.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
What it was like low ball or something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
Yeah, yeah, something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
But you know here everybody figured, oh, paul he's just
going to tear him up because PAULI is a boxer.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
But this is a different game.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
It's not boxing, you know what I mean, It's not
boxing it is it is barre knuckle fighting.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
And that is because I just heard he signed with
the other promotion.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
I saw that, Yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
He said he's going to sign that, and he mentioned
that he wants to go through the ranks rather than
just using his power to you know, take a title shot,
which that's admirable.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Why everyone loves.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Paulie like you know, you know when when when lose,
draw like him, hate him whatever. He's a fighters, fighter,
like yeah, yeah, he's not just going to sit there
and be like, you know what, I want a title fight.
He could have very well went right in there and
demanded a title fight and he probably would.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Have gotten it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
But yeah, I love guys, said you know what, I'll
I'll take all you know, you know, two or three
contenders over the next year, and you know, let's see,
let's see where the chips fall.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
You got.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Yeah, yeah, No, Pauli's the man. Paul's dope.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
It's good to watch him still competing and doing something
that still works. Again, like I said, the most damage
that you're gonna take is gonna be in the fight,
obviously with cuts and things like that. But because in training,
like I said, I feel like I feel like I've
hardly come out of training battered at all. We're in kickboxing.
I felt like, you know, you always got something nagging you.
And obviously I trained him and mate back in the day,

(01:02:25):
and there was always just something, you know, ligament.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Hurt here, this and that. Jiu Jitsu's jiu jitsu is rough, you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Know, yeah, it's it must it must be a lot easier.

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
You don't have to do the wrestling classes anymore. Yeah
places anymore. You can just worry about about about throwing
your hammers.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
Man, Yeah, exactly, And that's that's the thing that's I mean,
I could I don't think, like I said, I this
wasn't around. I don't think i'd be I'm not even
certain i'd still be competing and kickboxing either, but I
definitely wouldn't be doing MMA.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
My time is very limited as well.

Speaker 4 (01:02:56):
I have a I work full time, I've got a family,
got a ranch. So sometimes it even burns me out
the fact that I'm burning the wick at both ends
and every once in a while I'll light it in
the middle as well. So that's obviously during fight camp
time to you know what I mean, I'm burning, I'm
burning around the clock, and that's that's probably the roughest
part right there now.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
I mean, that's always not the easiest choice to make.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
So I mean, I'll take you take this, this, this next,
last one, and then you know, wrap this one up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
You know what you already said, you know, limited time.
You know, you know, you're you know you're you're You're
not You're not a spring chicken anymore. Things that things
that nature.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
What are what are some of your goals over the
next year, but you know, year and a half or
you know, when do you see you you you you
quote unquote hagging the gloves up.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
It's funny.

Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
I was just talking with my father about that this morning.
I told him maybe four or five more years. And
he says, you want to make a wager on that.
But you know what, I feel damn good to be honestly,
I feel damn good. My body's in good shape. I
don't have any nagging injuries or anything like that. I'll
be forty in a couple of days here, actually, so,
but I feel damn good. So honestly, So I have

(01:04:11):
a three I have three more fights to fulfill in
this contract, and we'll see what comes after that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
And and I like fighting kind of back to back.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
It was nice for those first two would be GFC
that they were like less than sixty days apart.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
That was nice. I healed up pretty quick, so I'll
just take it up.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Fight When next time your dad bat, you just show
him Houston. Alexander's last three fights.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
Well, I you know I mentioned was Louis Palomino. Lewis
is a stud man, right you're here. I believe he's
he's forty four, and that guy is, uh, he's good.
That's admirable what he does. You know the fact that
he's still moving, he's forty forty years old and uh,
still hanging and banging.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
So that's good.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Yeah, those are some of the guys, you know. I
mean Houston's he's almost fifty now, right.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
Yeah, yeah, he's a specimen though, right, he's a I mean, obviously,
both those guys are. But you take care of your body.
I take care of my body. I take care of
you know, I don't live I don't live a wildlife, obviously.
I live very humble and relaxed. I don't want to
say relaxing life because it's will blast all the time.
But I'm not out partying. I'm not out, you know,
chasing women. I'm not out doing anything like that. Literally,

(01:05:23):
if I'm not doing this, I'm hanging with my kids,
hanging with my wife. Pretty pretty relaxed. I almost live
like a damn monk. I don't drink, don't smoke, don't
do it, none of that. So that's a benefit that
keeps me moving, you know that I feel like is
some of these other guys, the younger guys, they still
have that pursuit in them. I don't have that kind
of pursuit any longer, you know' that's done.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
Well, as we wrap this one up, what I typically
do is kind of throw the proverbial microphone over to you. Ryan,
anyone you would like to thank, you know, training partners, teammates,
any socials that you do have that you want to promote,
any sponsor as you have anything you want to We
want to say to the listeners in your fan the
time is yours, my friend.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Well all right, coy, thank you. So.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
First off, thank you to my family for putting up
with me all the time. Thanking for my wife, my
kids to deal with my mood swings, my attitude and
everything that comes along with a fight camp. Thank you
for my sponsors, day Tattoos, Humboldt Exotics, Huckleberry Hill Farms,
Lotus Mountain Active Care, Chiropractic.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
What else do I got? Bell Tower and.

Speaker 4 (01:06:33):
Let me think you're just Humboldt County in general. I
want to thank humbold County for always having my back.
My county where I live has done nothing but show
love to me. So that's been fantastic. July twenty fifth,
ECW Arena twenty three hundred Arena at Philadelphia. Let's go
have a blast man full blast and let's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
I'm looking forward to it one way or another, my friend,
It's you know, always fun having having bear Knuckle here
here here in my backyard. You know, uh, I was
covering Dave's x FE promotion way before you know, he
he uh, he wound up launching Bare Knuckle.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
I remember when c FFC.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Bought him and him and his son were walking around
just doing nothing. They were stuck under contract, and I
remember him sitting there saying like, listen, I'm gonna start,
I'm gonna start start a bare Knuckle promotion. Uh, you know,
as soon as our contracts are up, and you know,
it's gonna be the biggest thing in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
And he's almost completed that. That that uh, that statement.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
To me, So hey, that's great, man.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
I wish Dave, you know, Dave n Damon, you know,
all the best in in their their respective fight promotions.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
You know, wish you the best of skill here coming on.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
The twenty fifth, you know where you know, you know,
two three weeks away now it's uh should be a
should be a blast, as it always is in South Philly.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
So absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Appreciate you your time, and uh we definitely gotta do
this again against some time.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
My friend.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
It sounds good. Thank you, Steven, thank you for your time.
I appreciate it. Brother.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Not a problem. You have a God with my friend
you as well. Take care you all right everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
That was Ryan Peterson, another another great combat sports veteran.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Gonna be gonna be having some fun.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
In the BKFC page page cage here in July twenty fifth,
as he said, twenty three hundred the arena for people
don't know, that's the ECW Arena in South Philly.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
But another fun one in the books.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
I will be back tomorrow after no evening and we're
gonna be talking on a one hundred and eight Stitches
podcast with former Philadelphia Phillies pitcher Pat Combs rescheduled interview.
We're gonna have some fun with that one. Guys, make
sure that that you that you like, subscribe, share the

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South Florida Tribune, you know, pay just both, you know,
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you know, share it with your mom, share it with
your girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Make sure you're showing us love on all all the platforms.
I will be back running running the ship this week.
Scott should be back some sometime soon with Candy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
Hold on a few more weeks here with me as
we continue to grow and have fun here on the
South Foorder Tribune Media Network.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Other than that, I'm Steve.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
This was another episode of the Reel and the Rear
and appreciate uh mister Ryan Peterson for joining us best
of skill on his upcoming fight.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Catch you guys later, Peace, help

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
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