Real N Rare interview with Rayne Wells (1)

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:23):
All right, what is up, fight fans? We are back
for another episode of The Real and the where I'm
your host, as always Stephen Rochelle my special guest this afternoon,
this evening. All depending where you're catching us from, is
my good friend with uh Rain Wells. He's uh, he's
a fighter, he's a a fight manager. He's you know,

(00:44):
he works in all areas of combat sports that that
that allows him to and uh, we're gonna we're gonna
be picking his brain this afternoon this evening. Like I said,
wherever you're catching him further up, you're over the bond.
If you're you're in another zip code. That's something to me.
Me and Rain were talking about before getting on. We
have to get get our zip codes right, make sure
everything was was was good. But combat sports world is

(01:06):
always something interesting to talk about, always always something to
go over. And uh uh, the the one of our
I guess I always say the one of our Mount
Rushmore is of of women's combat sports veterans had a
lot to say this week. I don't know if you've
seen this, did you see? Uh Ronda was on I

(01:27):
think Burt Kreisler's podcast, and she she wasn't holding punches.
She was coming at just about everyone's throat. Did Did
you happen to catch any of that?

Speaker 2 (01:35):
I didn't catch it.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
But I should tell you before we go any further
with that that I'm good friends with her brother.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
That's awesome. Listen. I'm not a Ronda hater. I'm not Listen.
I love I love women's combat sports, doesn't matter which
level we're talking about. Ronda. You know, I said, I
have this saying here, Gina Caronal crawl to Ronda can run.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah exactly, Ronda.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Ronda went and you know, had had had her her
her paton taken by by uh, you know one Amandas.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, the next generation of that as well as we're
about to see Amanda and uh and and the our
new champion down there also get ready to take it on.
I hope they pushed that one back to the to
the the White House card because uh Kayla Harrison and
the main and Amanda Nonaz at the White House would

(02:32):
be must see TV, at least in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
I met Harrison and didn't have about eight years ago
and had no clue who she was. She signed this
thing for me. I was like, oh, thanks. I have
no idea who you are.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
That's fine. When obviously, you know, I had I had
a step daughter at the time, and she was she
was having some stuff and we were putting her in
combat sports and she absolutely fell in love with Ronda
you know everything, you know, uh her bravado whatever you
would you would want to call it. You know, she
you know, even my younger daughter, like you know, she

(03:07):
got so involved her Her favorite fighter up until she
retired was Pelice Harry. Oh yeah, you know, she was
just you know, she was on a bashful she she
didn't have have a filter. I think that that that's
a lot of reason why some of the people don't
really care for him. But listen, I think Ronda is
a pioneer in so many levels. And there's even people
like I messed Gina carranou Tera Le Ross is another

(03:30):
one I think is very important to the early stages
of what women's combat sports was. And you know, we
can even go even further to like, you know, with
some of the boxers. I mean, obviously we're about to
see uh Sidney Sweeney, uh do Christy Martin story. I'm
really looking forward to that. You know, we don't get
a whole lot of combat sports movies that that are
outside the boxing realm. But I mean, I you know,

(03:54):
I think, uh, I think uh Dwayne, Dwayne Johnson did
a great job with uh, you know, the Smashing Machine,
and I know some you know, it didn't get the
numbers in the box office, but I don't think we
can judge that anymore, just because where we consume movies
anymore is more streaming than going to the theater. So
I don't put I think, you know, some of these

(04:17):
some of these movie studios have to adjust on their
expectation things regardless of of what your budget was, however,
you go whatever. You know, some of these movies they
do way better on the streaming side of things than
people do actually go into the theater anymore, at least
in my opinion. But going back to what was being said,
Ronda had a lot to say, and you know, there

(04:39):
was a couple of things that that she said that
kind of brought out to me when she she was
basically being ass like, you know, why we haven't seen
her in things like that, and uh, Rona brought up
a good thing and and you know, uh, you know,
mma community can take it for however they want. But
she basically said, you know, when you look at the
w W E they have such a reverence for for

(05:02):
their legends. And she's absolutely true when we're talking about
you know, wrestling, pro wrestling legends, Uh, you know w
W legends that they have, they are held to a
certain standard. But in m m A, it's like the
second you're not on the top anymore, your ship, you're you're, you're, you're,
you're the worst thing that that's ever come to. Necessarily

(05:22):
disagree with her that that title once you lose that
or the the entire the the entire mass is that
that is the m m A community that doesn't really
give you the love and respect that you see the
wrestlers have. And I think she's hit that spot on.
You could take that however you want. She's not wrong

(05:43):
there the same thing, you know, jose Addle was the
greatest thing since since slices spread through that that lighter classes.
The minute he lost he lost to Conor McGregor exists anymore,
I'm like, what are you talking? So I think she's right.
I think there's a different level of respect when it
comes to the wrestling community. With the wrestling legends than

(06:06):
what it is in the m m A community with
the m m.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
A legends even boxing.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Look at how they're treating Canelo right now, like he's
like he's done.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Like dude, he he lost. He lost the Crawford and
and CS. I think Crawford fought fought in an immaculate
played fight. Yeah, like he fought inside the shell he was.
He was aggressive when he when he needed to, he was.
He was lighting Canelo up like you didn't you didn't
get this great knockout, knockdown, knockdown slug out that that

(06:39):
you know, I guess the the the blood enthusiast of
the combats always want. But as far as two high
level boxes, I felt that, uh, you know, regardless of
who was promoting it, what else was done on? Like
there were some fights on that car and I was like,
what in the hell was going on? Like early stoppages.

(07:00):
But just like we can argue about different aspects of
refereeing officiating as we continue to go on tonight, but uh,
you know, I see it a lot, and you know,
I think the the m m A fan needs to
adopt the the reverence that that that we we see

(07:21):
a lot of our dude, John Cen has gotten Dan.
They were a two year retirement tour and everyone for
lack of that. They used to hate him because he
was he was the the baby face that that everyone
couldn't stand anymore. He he you know, he's been going
and act and I think he's been doing a killer
job at uh, you know, picking his roles, finding some

(07:42):
of this niche form where a lot of people when
Duane Johnson came in, it was like they were turning
their nose up at him, like they can do anything.
And then all of a sudden that Dwayne found his
niche inside inside of the the you know, the Hollywood movie.
Rom I already said that if you haven't, please go
watch The Smashing Machine, especially if you're an old school combats,

(08:05):
you know, combat sports fan. I think Dwayne knocked that
out out of the park. And for what people don't know,
he also donated a portion of of of of what
he was getting paid to his co star.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Right.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
So, like a lot of people like to hate him
Dwayne for a lot of reasons, like listen, you know,
you know, uh, everyone talks about what happened with Fast
and the Furious, and maybe there were some things that
he rubbed that rubbed him the wrong way and he
handled it wrong. With us at human beings, we don't
always handle things the greatest way that you should, just
the way the life life goes sometimes. But it's one

(08:38):
of these things where I won't hear it. Dude talked
at a great job. I'm really looking forward to. I
think it's the seventh. I think it's November seventh that
that Chrissy is gonna be in theaters, like listen, you
know for the female you know, combat sports athletes, fans, whatever.
I think you definitely need to need to go and
check that out. What was one of the other ones

(09:03):
that that that she said, Oh, and you know, this
is something I think we can we can all kind
of agree on. There was another part of the comment
that was made and was talking about Dana White, and
basically she said, basically, when Dane is done, I think
the dominant M and a organization title will be up
for grabs. And I totally agree with her. I think
that the UFC is absolutely nothing without without Dana White,

(09:26):
without him, it's just letters her comments. I think she's right.
I've been sitting there saying for a few years, I
think the UFC is having a big, big problem right now,
and I think, you know, they're not developing stars that
we used to see to on the regular when when
The Ultimate Fighter was in its heyday, you know when

(09:47):
when they had when they would have seasons, there was
almost like five fighters or more that you immediately attached
yourself to and you were invested in. I don't know,
it's because they don't quite do the countdown shows the
way they used to. I don't know what the formula
is or is it just the you know, the newer
age fighter is just there's it's a different animal, maybe

(10:08):
something we've already seen. I don't I can't sit there
and say put my finger on it. But they are
not developing stars like what we see. And this is
going going go even for even another level into this
that we've seen what what we've seen in Bare Knuckle
Knuckles fount the way in multiple different promotions to build

(10:29):
up fighters that that are now approaching superstar status, regardless
if they were in m m A, regardless of they
were in boxing, regardless if they were in nobody before
the sport came that, regardless of we're talking b k B,
B K F C uh, you know, if we're talking
Ken SHAMROCK's version of of Bare Knuckle, they all have

(10:50):
have stars in in in their organization that they could
easily sell out arenas with. And it's you know, Dana
got set off. There was a Q and A he
was sitting down there with with Nina, and the first
one was like, why is next weekend's card? Absolutely like
like dog poll, And Dana's like the card hasn't even
going off. How can you sit there and say it's

(11:11):
a terrible card. We we're not even a week away
from the event. Like, guys come on like I think
they are having a star problem. And I think when
Connor McGregor officially leaves the UFC leaves the MMA scene,
I think when you know, you know, Alex Pereira walks away,

(11:33):
he walks away, you know, Max Holloway walks away. When
those guys leave, they're gonna be in trouble.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, well, they're not selling the personalities like they used to.
I mean, look at that we used to see all
Connor McGregor. You couldn't get him out of your face.
You know, he was on everything. It was science, sports,
science shows, all kinds of shit.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
I don't. I don't know what it is. A lot
of people saying it's t k O, and you know
t k O is ruining both the UFC and and
w w A. Listen, if anyone's ruined the w w A,
it's triple h. He's the one. He's the one that
that that takes control of the whole creative window. Granted
he's not Vince. I just don't think there was a
lot of things that Vince did wrong creative wise, regardless

(12:20):
of it of any other thing. But you can't get
everything one hundred percent right one hundred percent of the times.
Everything can't be perfect. That's not the world we live in.
And that's I don't. I don't. I don't don't agree
with with just putting that on one thing, but I
do agree when Dana White decides that he's done with
the UFC, they're going to be in a world fool trouble.

(12:41):
You built it, you know him, And yeah, you know
he did it with you know, uh, you know the
Fortita Brothers money. Yeah, he went and took him from
Spike TV to to to Fox, to to CBS too.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
You know, they were they were ready to walk bro
and he and he pulled it, he reined it in.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
You know, they paid for the for the for the
first season of The Ultimate Fighter out of their own
pocket because Spike wouldn't error. Yeah, so, I mean that's
not just his but the Ftida brothers belief and what
they had and and and what what Dana was capable of.
You could say whatever you want. You know, Dane is this.
Dane is that he doesn't do this, he doesn't do that.

(13:26):
And there's things that they do right now that kind
of irritates me. I just seen, you know, one of
these guys got hurt, wasn't in the camp, and he's
on online begging for money to to have MRIs and surgeries.
I think that's something that has to be It doesn't
matter if they're under if they're under your contract with
you and they've had a they've had a fight, they've
they've they've been in your ring, that they should be

(13:48):
under your your medical.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
And yeah, yeah, all promotions are bad about that though
all I agree.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
I agree, And you know it's some of these things
where we don't have a perfect formula, you know, when
it when it comes to the combat sports worth boxing
m M A bare knockle whatever. There's not a perfect
formula with that that anyone's anyone's free from you know,
you know, being what whatever the vertical. Now, a few

(14:31):
other things we wanted to kind of kind of touch on. Obviously,
the big thing over the the last few days have
been the ipoke situation, right Herb Deane basically says that
there there has been meetings, conversations looking into that, and
something's gonna be changed moving forward. We this has been
something we've talked about in M M A for for

(14:52):
a while. It's not just a Tom aspinall situation. I
don't agree with the fact that you know, we're talking
about you know, Dana White basically sitting there saying that
Tom wanted out. I don't know if he wanted out.
I can't sit there and say it. I'm not I'm
not in between his ears. But I don't think a
guy that's been waiting a year and a half to
to kind of have his uh, his title defense, is

(15:15):
gonna gonna find the way out the door with an
ipoke that that he doesn't get. He doesn't get a
he ain't gonna get anything but his show money, which
is I think wrong. I think it should have been
a d Q because it's one of those things when
it's something that happens multiple times. You know you're warned
and you're continuing, and everyone wants to say, oh, well,

(15:35):
you know you listen if you're putting your hand out
with your hands open like this and it's not like
I think if if you're moving your hand forward like
this in a Perry type of situation, that there has
to be some type of warning. There has to be
some type of recourse. You know, your guy that that's
been in there, what would you like seeing done in
this situation where we are getting ipokes, We are getting

(15:59):
things that are and in big fights. You know, we've
seen videos. It doesn't matter if it's John Jones or
some other fighter where they you know, they get you know,
knuckle deep, you know, eye poke and you know, you know,
you know, the fights off or we're sitting there waiting
five six, seven minutes and you know, uh, for for
a stoppage because you know they're trying, they're they're trying

(16:19):
not to see uh you know, triple vision out there, because.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
I mean they're they they're handling it the only way
they really can. I know, they changed the gloves in
in the UFC back.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
They did change it back, They did change it. They're
supposed to be like a I still think when we
talk about this, Pride gloves are probably the better ones
because of the way they were made. They covered the
they covered the fingers that have some type of patting there.
But you know, I don't think it's as simple as
a glove change. I think you do rule wise need

(16:52):
to hold somebody accountable, you know, when when you're in
that situation, like but we're also talking about a sport
where grappling evolved in you need you need the use
of a free fingers. So it's yeah, it's a a
situation if you've really asked me. But there's something you
can't just sit there and continue to go about it
the way. It's just because that's the status quote, you know.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Well, yeah, I think I think rematches should be a
thing too with that, Like, if there's an eye poke
and a stoppage, I think your next bite has to
be against the same.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Guy, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
I agree with that too.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
That way, you can't get out of it like that,
and if not, you're in violation of the contract.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
See later, you know.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, if you're if you're a title holder or whatever
that you know, you're you're stripped. If you're a ranked one,
if you're ranked in the top ten, your your rankings removed.
There to be some recourse that way if the rematch
isn't it isn't immediately set up. And I can clear
you can clearly see there's not a situation with that
for this one.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
But I mean may yeah, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Now, I don't know that came out. I don't know,
like I you said, if you've seen this weekend, but
this fight fix and stuff has really been come out there.
There was a lot of money that came in. Like
the we're talking about the betting aspect of things coming
on obviously, the the the FBI probe, what's going on
in in the NBA right now again you know, uh,

(18:21):
we're talking about you know, games being fixed, things things
like that. But over this past weekend, the guy that
was you know, was in James Crass's camp. Before you know,
you're starting you're starting to see a large amount of
money coming over the weekend where the FBI did did
say something to the UFC like, hey, we're getting a

(18:43):
lot of money in on on on a so and
so's opponent things like that. Obviously, the James Crast situation,
you know, was was something that you take of it, like,
you know, it's the same thing when we're talking about uh,
you know, Wall Street insider trading and insider deals, it's
the same. It's in the same ilk when we're talking

(19:05):
about combat sports. If you know somebody in your gym,
you know, knows that that you know, you completely dislocated
your your shoulders a week before your fight and be
like listen calls up his bookie and bet betting the
farm against you, then yeah, there there should be some
things like that, like you shouldn't be able to bet

(19:25):
on that. But we've all all the sports, it doesn't
matter if we're talking NFL, n b A, n h L,
what we've we've all adopted the prop betting, whether it's
you know, Draft Kings, FanDuel, whatever. It is. Like we're
in an age where bet betting is almost second nature,
to the point where you know, NFL guys are getting

(19:46):
getting cussed out in the d MS because you know,
you know, if you did, if you'd have caught that pass,
I'd of gotten was they able to able to hit
my three leg Like why are why are we in
this day where you can message an athlete basically tell
them that they cost you money and you know everything
under the sun. You know, we just seen Isaiah Rodgers

(20:06):
up there up there in Minnesota after getting burnt by
my Eagles and had all kinds of racist people in
his d MS calling him trash, calling him this name,
that name, Like like, listen, man, there there's there's lines
that shouldn't be crossed, you know, you know, betting.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Everybody your voice.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
I mean, I don't know how you fix this because
the genie is already out of the bottle. The genie's already
out of the bottle. But like I think that if
there's something something that is being done illegally and and
people making money off it, yeah, then you know people
need to be held accountable for that. And you know,

(20:48):
I think this weekend they probably should have pulled that
fight from the from the from the card. If you're
being called by the FBI, regardless of you know, missing
one fight on the card, it wasn't the main event,
you know, I think it was one of you know,
your I think your middle tier events. Whatever guy wounds
up getting choked at in the first round, and you

(21:09):
know kind of you know from from what I'm here,
and it looked like, you know, he uh, he wasn't
doing much fighting back after the the you know, his
back was secured again. It's it's something that if we've
been watching jiu jitsu in m m A for a while,
you could tell when somebody's fighting something off or when
somebody's checked out. Yeah, have one of those situations. You

(21:32):
should just pull it.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Men.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
If if if you're getting getting calls of the sitting
there saying you're getting an exorbitant amount of money on
one guy, then you should probably you should probably take
a look into that and and and yank that.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah, but what.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Are we gonna do now? Like it's like literally like
no matter, it doesn't matter where you go. Like you
can bet on just about anything on anyone.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Man.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
I bet sports, and I especially get on fans doing that.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
BCFC. This week there.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Was some guy that I know that does picks, and
I sent him five picks.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
I went five for five.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Hey, man, Like, listen, you you know you when you
know like but you're also involved in it where you
you see guys. You know you you you know, you
train with guys, you work, you work with a lot
of athletes, so you're you're in one of those situations.
But like I was sitting there saying, the genies out
of the bottle. So just because you're somebody that's involved
with all these athletes, should you be banned from betting?

(22:31):
I don't think that that's a that's a fair way
to go about it. It's the same thing. But James
was setting.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
His h.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
There you are.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, like I said, literally, my whole thing just went out. Yeah,
but you're on a your camera's off right now though.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
If I can do it.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Gotta love the technical issues there here back.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, I didn't see them.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Went out, so I was like, I thought it was
just the cable because again I told you was on
with them for a while, but a few more combat
sports for later one, you know, uh, you know back
to the I poke thing. You know, Kevin Lee was
basically he's been never been been, you know, never I
poked anyone in some twenty two fights, you know, And

(24:37):
what these guys are doing, it's on purpose. Should be
taking points all the same. You know, a lot of
people be faking too. Yeah, I hear Kevin with that one.
You know, there are guys that, you know, push that
envelope and and find a way out. I don't think
everyone is though, But no, no, I didn't want to

(24:58):
give you a chance to talk talk about, you know
a few of these other things you're working out. I
know one thing we were talking about was the fight
wax stuff. Now, I guess give everyone a quick to
do about you know what fight wax is, and you
know what are what are some of the some of
the products that you can get some of these guys

(25:19):
involved with.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
For sure.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
So fight wax is a skin defense system. It's essentially
an alternative to vasoline. It's all natural, So all the
bad stuff that's in vasoline, and there is a lot
of it, you shouldn't be putting it on your skin,
and we have been for a long time. So fight
wax is an all natural alternative to basoline. It has

(25:43):
healing properties that are similar to triple antibiotic, and it's
a total skin defense system. It's got something called anyway,
I'll get back to that, but I got that.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
I think it's pulled some of this up that you
know I found on your.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Oh there's the price list. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
So we got we got cans that are typically used
for cornermen, and then we got tubes uh of skin
defense product. And right now the company is based out
of Canada, but I am the United States point of
contact for sales, so they're gonna ship products to me
and then I'm gonna ship it around the US because
we have been having a lot of problems with Canadian

(26:26):
shipping lately. So we got merch as well. And the
merch is it's pretty high quality stuff.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
You know.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
It's the hats are stitched and the.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
The the clothing is is excellent material.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
It's just it's it's really good.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
So we're hoping to take over combat sports, uh and
replace vasoline and other products that are not all natural.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, man, that's ye know, we talk about like some
some of the aspects of combat sports is still still
stuck in the old times. And you know, I agree
with you, Vasolene isn't something that should be continually being used,
uh to to help our help our athletes to you know, uh,
prevent cuts, door door in fights and things things like that.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
So well, you know, they had that stuff that you
can pack in cuts that's like powder, that's terrible. But
but also it's we have studies that show my wax
is good for ezema, it's good for rashes. I mean
it's really it's and we have doctors.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Bad so me and you need to have a conversation
about the same. Yeah, absolutely, because that's something that he's
still dealing with. And he uh, he plays football. So
I was just talking to him the other day. I'm like,
I like, you get your showers this week. He's like, yeah, yeah,
I'm like, why why do you look look like look
like a scaled alligator right now? And do what's going
on here?

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah? For sure, good product. Gotta check it out.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
It's definitely something I want to do. And the other
side of that was, yeah, you're also involved with another
program that's the the Sponsored Fighters. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
So I started a website called sponsor fighters dot com
probably a little over a month ago. Right now, we
have three hundred thousand clicks. In the first month, we
had two hundred thousand, and then we also have one
hundred and fifty active users, and we just started the

(28:34):
business profile section so fighters can get on, they can
create a profile. Then what we do is we use
scraping data from uh from Google. So if a business
is advertised with Google, we'll take the fighter look and
see where he's from. We'll scrape all the data from
all the sites that have advertised with Google, and we'll

(28:55):
send that fighter's profile. So the better profile with the
more links that you make, the more information is going
to go to a potential sponsor, and we're gonna hopefully
get these guys some money because it's expensive to live,
but it's more expensive to live and train and a
lot of these guys work full time jobs.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
So so yeah, it's it's.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
A great thing, and we we need fighters to sign
up and we need We're not asking businesses to build
a page to be sponsors, though that wouldn't hurt if
you're involved at all in combat sports or know somebody
who is. It's just free advertising for a business. So
there are more business pages that are on here. The

(29:33):
more clicks on the website we get, the better it
is for us, the better advertising it is for them.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
And that's something you know me and you talked about,
you know, before we set up the interviews. Just like
man fighter pay is crazy. And then as you were
just talking about a lot of these guys you know,
working nine to five, work regular jobs and then try
to also squeeze training in on top of it because
they're not they're not able to to live live freely

(29:59):
to a point where they can just they can just
concentrate on on training. And you know, they have you know,
this company, that company that that that actively takes care
of them on a on a regular basis, not just
when when you know they're getting ready for for a
big fight. So it's it's very crucial, not just for

(30:20):
the high level athlete, but you know, you're you know,
you're you're up and coming amateur, your your your profighter
that's you know, you know won the five five fights
into into their career. They don't have that that following
that that that support. They normally rely on local businesses
and and and things that that are close to home

(30:41):
to kind kind of help get them through that. You know.
Obviously a lot of times you see some of these fighters,
they they get they link up with UH with fight
management companies and really rely on them to you know,
get get there, get their walk out t shirts made,
get get you know, get get their their fight outfits
taken care of. You know, UH, fight banners situated like there,

(31:02):
there's so many different things that that they have to
worry about. On top of going you know, going to
go go fight, then you also have to worry about
the promoter. Once you guys to sell sell tickets and
do this and do that, you guys are literally stretched
all over the place, and so it it's it's nice
to hear of a you know, uh, I'm not even

(31:23):
gonna call out a company a community like yours that
that is trying to connect both the athlete and and
the the companies that that that are looking to get
you know, uh, you know, more more eyes on them
by you know, sponsoring a combat sports athlete. You know,
you may not be to the level of you know,

(31:43):
your NFL players, your your Big four sports to be
able to do that. So I think what you're doing
is is an invaluable thing right now that maybe not
a whole lot of people know about. And you know,
I want to try to kind of do what I
can to help you guys, kind of spread the word
to get you know, get some more companies involved, get
get some more fighters involved, and you know, help spread

(32:08):
as much as I can.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
My friend, I appreciate you. I appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
And Uh, I work with a management company called C
and C Management, and we mostly deal with uh guys
that want to get into BKFC, but we also are uh,
you know, dealing with a couple of guys that do
UFC fight pass, MMA situations and boxing and all kinds
of stuff dirty boxing even now. But are that website

(32:35):
is not just for people that are interested in bare
knuckle or or want to be part of the management
company that I'm associated with. We got guys that are
from Smith Brothers and all kinds of stuff that are
kind of rival management companies. But the website is for everybody,
and I don't treat anybody any different.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yeah, and listen, man, you know, people like you are
few far between, my friend, it's uh, there's you know,
the combat sports world is a dirty, dirty world. There's
very few good hearted, genuine people that are involved in it,
you know. Uh, you know everyone always says that, you know,
you know, we we see the don Kings of the

(33:13):
of the world still continually, you know, making money off
of the backs and blood, sweat and tears of all
our athletes, and it's it's very rare to see people
that just want to want to genuinely see you know,
people continue to uh you know, not have to struggle
and fight from from you know, fight to fight, and
that bar eager to pay Paul just just to just

(33:36):
to continue to potentially you know, have their dreams. It's
it's rough, man.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah, I appreciate you, man.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Not a problem. And you know, speaking of people, uh,
you know, leeching off other people and to make their name. Obviously,
you know, Jake Paul is one of these guys. Either
you love them you hate them. Listen. I'll always say
this right now, I'll continue to say this. I will
not respect him as a boxer until he regularly fights

(34:08):
guy his own age, his own weight class, et cetera.
The the stuff that's going on right right now with
with Tank Davis is beyond laughable stupid. But I will
say he always puts a good undercard on it. That
makes you just man, Now I have to tune in.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
And Anderson Silva is an excellent boxer, Let's be real.
You know, he he's an athlete and he when he
does something, he takes it seriously. But Jake Paul, let's
be honest, man, Tommy Fury is not an excellent boxer,
but he's a younger dude and he put hands on

(34:50):
Jake Paul.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
I think it's funny, like the legitimate boxers that been
calling him out mysteriously escape Jake Paul's mind, thoughts, tongue, whatever.
Tommy Morrison has been begging. Tommy Morrison's son, Kensey Morrison,
has been begging on every platform. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't
matter if it's if it's Twitter x, if it's Instagram,

(35:13):
if it's Facebook, if it's Snapchat, if it's TikTok. He's
been on every platform calling Jake Paul out at least
once a week. Gave me multiple times a week to
put on a fight rockman Son. He's been asking, asking
to get it, get in with with with there. There's
guys that has little you know, lineage is two boxing

(35:35):
that you could be fighting that are in your age, age, group,
weight classes, et cetera, and that Jake Paul has been
keeping away like like it's a bad cold or something.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
But I trained a little bit with Kensei Morrison's brother
in Tulsa, and I follow Kenzie.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
He had Jake Paul's pitcher taped to a.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Punching bag for like weeks just punching the ship out
of it.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Man. I can't wait for for Kinsey to to really
like I mean he obviously when when uh when b
KFC was was in Texas recently, he uh he did
his thing man, he Uh Listen, I've been I've been
been a proponent for him for a while. I don't

(36:20):
know if a lot of people who file combat sports
know what Tommy's widow has been doing over there. Yeah yeah,
I so want want Ariel Hawani to put her on
his show and and really dig deep into it because
some of the stuff that that's been was going on
with what was surrounding Why why uh why Tommy had

(36:44):
had this and that going on in his life outside
of the substance abuse stuff and stuff like that, Like
what what really jack Knife? His career needs to be
talked about, needs to be investigated and people held accountable
for it because the fact fact that that man died
and there was there was no traces of the HIV
virus in his body is a qumongous red flag and

(37:07):
it needs to be investigated. Arion Hawani, if you wound
up coming across to someone, reach out to Tricia Morrison
and get on your show. I mean, they broke somebody somebody.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Did you see that long post that she made?

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Which one because she she she makes she makes multiple
a week, So I mean.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
It was crazy, it was huge. I took the time
to read it and I was just like, Wow.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
One of the interesting things is, and I don't like
to throw people's names under the buses are in there,
but Kevin Iley was was a big part of the
the Las Vegas Stay Athletic Commissions sanctioned body for a
long period of time, to the point where his wife
was one of the people that were involved with the medicals.
And she's she you know, made some accusations that that

(37:58):
Kevin wasn't was all on the up and up and
with some of the things that went on with that.
The apparently from from her claims and some of the
stuff that I've seen, the ESPN thirty for thirty uh
documentary is a complete and utter total of fat fabrication. So,
I mean, it's it's one of these weird things, man,
that you know, I think that that's one of these

(38:21):
things that you know, we talk about this is a
dirty sport at something at sometimes and.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
That's kind of hard to that's kind of hard to believe,
but I mean, you never know.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
I just I think some of the stuff that she has,
she she she's got a leg to stand on. And yeah,
I find it funny that that we see all this
other stuff get get, get put on, get put on,
you know, TV, podcast, whatever, but no, no one wants
to sit down and hear a word this woman has
to say, uh, come on, come on, Yeah, but I

(38:57):
want to. I wanted to get back into one more
thing that that Ronda was sitting there saying, apparently, you know,
she's not too happy with how people are still giving
Kabibo this love. You know her her wording where it
was was not it was not something I want to repeat.
On Ara basically was sitting there saying that people still

(39:19):
got Kabeb's you know what in their mouth and they
still revere, revere him to to this level because he
was smart and knew when like listen, like he was
all on borrow time. As much as he missed fights
for injuries blowing his knee out, he was smart to
pick the right fights at the right time against the
right people. I'm not gonna fault him from that. But

(39:41):
with that being said, he doesn't have the number of
title defenses that a lot of these guys have. You know,
I won't put him on my goat list. I refuse to.
Doesn't mean that he wasn't a great champion, doesn't mean
that he didn't help help grow the sport in ways
that that some guys did it. I just like when

(40:02):
I'm talking about my Mount Rushmore fighters, at least when
we're talking about the UFC, I won't have Kabe bone there.
So I saying that a lot of a lot of
the kob fans think that he is like the greatest
of all time. I don't see because.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
I mean, let's be honest about something. He'd beat McGregor,
but MacGregor didn't have any grappling none.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
So not to a level, not to a bad level.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
There's there's guys, there's guys now that would just waste him.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
You know, I agree, But you gotta think like I
agree when we're talking about the Connor McGregor situation. He
he hasn't been wholeheartedly hungry and involved for for mm
A in ten years. Let's be honest.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
No, Yeah, you know, I'm a fan. I'm a big
fan of Connor, you know, but you know, and I've
been around him a couple of times, you know, not
like I hung out with him or talk to him
or anything. He was ringsided one of my fights.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
But I'm a big fan man, you know, and I
don't like to talk shit about people.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
But come on, you know what I'm saying, Like, let's.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Not talking ship. I think if you ask him right now,
he would say, I think data Wright was spot on
once he had that Mayweather fight and they put one
hundred million dollars dollars in his pocket. Stop. He sold it.
He sold his his his uh, his alcohol brand, and
made me four times as much as he as he
put into it. Yeah, the dude's living on a yacht.

(41:43):
He's doing kinds of stupid. Do you blame him where
he come? No, there's not enough, not enough uh teachers
in this world to teach young men how to deal
with that level fame, that level of money. We talk about.
The NFL has symposiums every year where they sit the

(42:05):
rookie classes down and they talk talk to NFL veterans
and they just tell them, like listen, like the things
to look out for. There's nothing like that in combat sports.
It doesn't matter. We're talking whatever. There's no one to
sit down and talk to these guys when you make
X amount of money, when you're being proclaimed as well
as one of the bad, bad you know, wolfos on

(42:26):
this planet. Of how to keep yourself grounded and still
wanting to compete at that level, there's nothing for it.
And I think he became a victim of that. That's
a victim of his own success. When I say victim,
So you know, it is what it is, you know,

(42:46):
and we're talking about Connor. Obviously we got we got
to bring up what just happened a few weeks ago
with he got that eighteen month suspension for the whereabouts
thing for for the US the UFC is high doping policy.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Yeah, but what does that even matter because that's that
eighteen months is up before the White House card, and
that's that's all he's really doing.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
I doubt honestly.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
I bet the UFC will let him out of that,
out of that two fight contract and he will fight
one time in b KFC because he's a part owner,
and that is the and that is the end.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
I agree. I said it a while ago. I think
here's the other thing about the UFC contract. There's there's
there's there's three. There's two things to that. Yes, he
signed a three fight deal, but there's also a a
time tier that he has to have those three fights
in before the contract becomes Nolan Void, I think it's

(43:46):
a few years after the fact, But I think you're right.
I think once he when they get hit situated, I
think he is going to fight Michael Chandler. Yeah. I
think that. I don't think there's any ifs or buts
about that that that fight is going to happen and
that Dana will allow him out of his contract at
that point, don and you will see him fight either

(44:09):
Jeremy Stevens or or my or Mike Mike Perry. I
think Jeremy Stevens should get the get that fight point
blanket Peers because it completes a story. Yeah, you know,
because lives is who who the fuck is that guy?
Right that that that story has to be completed? Uh,

(44:30):
you know, everyone wants to say that we'd rather see
him fight Mike Mikey has been been running from from
from montdal for almost two years now. I don't I
have I have no interest in seeing that fight. You know,
he can sit there and say he's the badest, baddest
MNFR on this planet. You're not the baddest guy in

(44:51):
your your weight class. I don't want to. Mike Perry
is an uh an awesome entrepreneur, you know. I love
what he's doing boxing stuff like that. But but I
also think that that Connor should fight someone closer down
his weight Clayers.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
I think I think Mike Perry.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
I think Mike Perry wats Connor McGregor in bare knuckle,
and I love Connor McGregor.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
I think he I think Mike.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Perry actually absolutely murders him in a baron knuckle fight.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
Jeremy Stevens though maybe.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
That's why that's that's my prediction. I think it's gonna
be Jeremy Stevens over Mike Perry for for the exact reason,
but the other one I was just getting to. I
think because because Jeremy is closer to his natural weight
Clayers that you know, Jeremy started at forty five, you know,
he came up, came up to fifty five, went up
even more when he just fought fought Mike Perry. Yeah,

(45:47):
I think I think Perry would would have to beat
Mondell before before Connor would entertain that, and I don't.
I don't see that fight happening. I don't. I mean
at least at least uh over the next year. We'll
see what happens. But I agree, I think it. You
know that we will get a one off goodbye. I

(46:08):
guarantee you it will be at a Knucklemania. I don't
know it will be you know, two years from now,
how however that plays out, but it will be at
a Knucklemania. Won't be at a you know, a regular
pay per view event. It will be at one of
their bigger events.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
Well you know, you know that's about They're about to
do these uh the tryouts again in Philly for BKFC,
and then there'll be a Knucklemania right after that. I mean, so,
I mean, is it.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Got sanctioned here in PA? Dude? This is this is
Dave Felman's backyard, this is where he grew up. I
have no I had no doubt about it. That's why,
you know, I was. I was, you know, I was
blessed that my kids were able to go go go
see that. Yeah, you know, had uh had one of
the local fighters hook up my kids with tickets. And
then last minute, I actually got media credentials because one

(46:57):
of my friends who does the Bare Knuckle News, she
got sick. It was like, I need your help, can
you help me out? I'm like, well, I would rather
watch the fight with my kids, but I mean, if
you really need my no, I mean I was able
to answer the fight, get get my kids to come
down backstage. That they met Rath, well, they met Jeremy Stevens,
they ran in the back wild. So it's one of

(47:17):
those things where I was able to create a lasting
memory for them. So I can't put a dollar man
on that. It didn't matter a bat or what. So,
you know, was happy was able to do that. But yeah, no,
they're about to have a try out here in Philadelphia
where apparently you know, date the Golden Ticket. Yeah ticket,
he's doing the Willie Wackett thing.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
That's cool though, I got I got nothing but respect
and good things to say about the organization. They kind
of you know, I got three losses and they kind
of got me on the on the back burner. They're
talking about me and fighting dirty boxing. I got to
opera to fight Derek Brunton like last month, and I
just didn't work out. But U but yeah, I was

(48:00):
at the fights this last weekend cornering a guy, a
guy from my gym that I trained with. He's he's
a much better fighter than me, usually heavier, bigger, and stronger.
But I was teaching him some ship in the gym,
you know, trying to get him ready for this, and
he went out and knocked this guy out in like
twenty five seconds, you know, So it was awesome.

Speaker 4 (48:21):
Dave felt me out that.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Tell me? How was how was the Michigan event? Obviously
you were you were behind the scenes cornering guys and
stuff like that. What was uh? What was it? It
was weekend? Brother?

Speaker 3 (48:32):
It was small, bro, you know, it was small, but
I think it was a feeler to see, you know
what the deal was. And their production is always very good.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
It was live.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Everybody loved it. The fights were good. The matchups were
pretty decent. Man, I'm not gonna lie. And uh, sometimes
when you see those fights it's a one way slaughter
for about seventy five percent of them. But these ones
were banged. You know, some knockouts to the first two

(49:04):
fights were my guy and Ruben Arroyo got stopped in
the first round.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
But uh, you know, I don't ever.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
I've been stopped in the first round my damn self,
So I'm not gonna throw any shaded anybody for getting
in there and banging knuckles. You know, it was a
good show man. I really enjoyed it, and I think
everybody there did.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Yeahs. It's one of those things where you know, the
sport is uh, it's remind the growth of the of
what bare Knuckles doing is reminded me of like after
after the first Ultimate Spighter UFC. With the growth that
we've seen it like internationally, uh, you know, getting getting getting,

(49:51):
you know, more more of of the of the fifty
states hit here in North America to to sanction it
where we're starting to see like over over the last year,
I think we've seen what at least seven states.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Uh yeah, Uh, there's there's more on There's more on
the way. And I got to tell you, bro is
Dave Feldman. H you can hate him or or or
or whatever, but he's he's a sharp businessman and I
I've talked to him a little bit through messages about
different business things, trying to be uh useful to the

(50:24):
cause and get wedged my way in a little bit.

Speaker 4 (50:27):
Haven't quite been successful with that yet.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
But uh, they they throw these tryouts, the tryouts are
they they do grab a couple guys from the tryouts
usually and are like, oh, this dude's got some skill.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
Let's let's get him.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
But those things are all you know, uh, to feel
out and see after they legalize if if there's gonna
be sold out shows, you know, and then after the
tryouts there's always an event.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
So they're cultivating the culture, you know.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Yeah, they've what I think what Dave has done man
like he is created He's created a culture. And we
talk about this all the time when when we're talking
about football and baseball, like you know, it all starts
with the culture from from the front office down down
to what what the what the players or athletes are.

(51:22):
What Dave has done is is definitely unique. He is
he has made himself in that mold. Like what we
were just talking about with Dana White, when Dana White
goes away from the UFC, that the UFC is going
to suffer. I think the same thing would happen regardless
of who would take the day's day's position. You can't
just leave Connor there. You can't leave that while man

(51:44):
run the whole show. You have to have you have
to have somebody to kind of bring him back down
to earth, and that I think that's what, uh, what
Dana and Connor has done masterfully or over over the
last two years is build a connection, know what works best,
and I think what they've done has been amazing. So
you know, definitely he's a rare one, and uh, you

(52:07):
know space Speaking of rare ones, I gotta get your
thoughts on this one. We're talking about culture and stuff
like that. Why is not not for whatever reason, the
last two times he's been booked for fights, it's been
all this controversy. Ram he's been he's been disappearing.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Oh my god, I'm probably I'm probably the worst person
to talk to about this because I want I.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Want everyone's opinion, Like when was up here?

Speaker 3 (52:37):
When when he didn't show up, When he didn't show
up this last time, I he they were he was
supposed to come to Florida, and I posted a bunch
of memes with the Bermuda Triangle, told people, told people
he was flying into Florida and got and I showed
where the permuted Bermuted Triangle was at. I put his
space on a milk carton all kinds of it, and

(53:00):
his opponent he was supposed to fight Perez. He laughed
at this ship, but it was a sore subject. I
don't know, man, he was supposed to be.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Here in uh for for for the Philly knocklemania. I
forget who was he supposed to fight? Who? Who's the
kid's name?

Speaker 3 (53:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
I winzer man.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
They never should have rescheduled him after that though.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
That's weird.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Yeah, I mean, listen, Yeah, that was one of the
reasons my daughter was excited because the influencer of some
guy that he followed, he followed me on X but
like it, you know, didn't get a chance of set
anything up interview wise. But you know, it's definitely one
of these guys that it was. If if if Kimbo,
actually Kimbo Junior actually showed up, it would probably been

(53:46):
a fight that he would have been favored to win.
But I mean, this was the second time not. I mean,
we were just talking about some of the things that
they got you situated because the rules they haven't placed
around the back burner if you don't show it for
two fights that they waste time on. I think I
think that pretty much puts you on the on the
on the on.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
The well, right, BKFC got this new rule system that
they just enacted, and they're trying to lower the age
limit of the fighters that are involved. Now I'm forty three,
so I'm included in this. Uh, if you're over forty,
if you got losses, and if you've been inactive for

(54:26):
X amount of time, you're not gonna fight.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
So that that makes me ask the question because older fighter,
I'm gonna I'm gonna bring up Houston. Alexander's over the
age of fifty. He's three and oh and he's won
all of his his bare knuckle fights that he's had.
I thought we would see him when they went back
to to the Nebraska earlier in the year, when they
went back to Omaha, I thought we were gonna see him,
but we didn't. So I'm assuming at this point in

(54:51):
time that Houston's retired. Now let's just say for argument's sake,
this time next year they go back, they go go
back to Omaha again. You think they would keep him
away from having like a walk off fight because he
would be what like fifty two years old at the time.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
No, I think that it's a it's a company policy,
and I think that if it suits the company, they'll
go ahead and band all the rules that they want.
I hate to say it, but I've heard that even
when the Commission's involved in something, if they want it
to happen, it will. And when you're when you're powerful enough,

(55:29):
you know the deal. You know, you're like, hey, can
you help us with this? And of course they're going
to if they can.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Yeah. Yeah, Me and you were talking about some stuff, uh,
you know before we set this up off of air,
along those lines where you know, some of the times
they make things happen because because it benefits them, and
sometimes they'll shut things down because they're worried about about
what could potentially happen.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
So yeah, yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
You know we were talking about the frankiegar situation. You
know that was that was that was unfortunate. We listen,
I'm not listen. I'm not one of these ones. I'm
not gonna sit there and and blow roses up bkfc's
but all the time. But I'm also already said on here,
no one has a perfect formula for that. I get
why you would want to protect yourself in that situation.

(56:17):
But you had already went through the process with with Frankie.
So regardless if you paid him or not, I think
that that was kind of a crappy thing to do,
regardless of the fact, I understand the other side of it.
If if, if if Jimmy wiped the floor with Frankie,
Frankie wants up in a medical situation, that you were
the one that brought him out there after he had

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already walked three fights in a row before he was
before he walked away from the UFC. But I'm not
I'm not gonna throw too much more shade at that.
And you know, I know we're getting close to the
to the end of this. I did did find something
on your Facebook I wanted the one want to bring up.
So I see you're a Niners fan.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
Brother an names from Bank Bank, Niners gang bro.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
What do you think about the game today?

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Man?

Speaker 3 (57:01):
Oh man, I've been you know, I'm still driving back
right now from uh from Michigan to Iowa.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
So I didn't catch it.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Yeah, what happened. I thank god that that you're your
head coach had the mindset enough to bring in mac Jones,
because if not, I think y'all would be in a
very very difficult situation.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Oh man, I I love it. He he's doing better
than than anybody thought he would.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
I tell you that.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
Yeah, I think he absolutely has uh really re established
that he was definitely in the wrong place. Uh and uh,
he definitely deserves another chance. We'll see if if Shanahan's
smart enough to deal him to like New Orleans or
Las Vegas during the offseason. Get some picks, get get
some uh, you know, get get some uh some some

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stuff in the building where they get where they can
make some moves. But I'll say this much right now,
you guys had a I have a fairly good schedule
because of the injuries and stuff where you guys played
out last season. I think that that's going to help
you guys over the next two months. Yeah, listen, you know,

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obviously I'm an Eagles fan. So yeah, we're we're sitting
We're sitting in good listen. It ain't no love loss
obviously there all right, we have a new rivalry. It's
not even a real rivalry. But if people remember most
y'all knocked us out of the playoffs a couple of
times over over the late last twenty twenty five years.
So yeah, you know the the ray Roads team that

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we have, Ricky Worters on you y'all, y'all beat the Brakes.
I think it was like twenty seven and nothing or
something like that. Not gonna be out of playoffs before.
So like we we have some rivalry obviously. Uh you know, uh,
Pardy get get hurt early in that game a few
years ago. Pie was the worst thing that could ever happen.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
But I mean that picture that you showed was at
that It was at that Kansas City game in Kansas City,
and Yah, people.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Were dumping beer from the upper parts as I walked out,
yelling at me and ship and I'm telling you what.
I'm telling you what. The guy that I was with
was like, man, don't say nothing. I said, fuck that,
bring your eyes down here and trying to get them
dudes down.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
I'll say this much man like people love to give
the Eagles, Eagles fans craft, Dude, we ain't wasting no
beer on you.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
I'm sorry, all right, all right, I appreciate that I was.
I was in Philly for a fight a little while ago.
I know that what you're saying is true.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Listen, we ain't waste some beer on people.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
Like Listen, cheef steaks are disgusting. Though I wanted to
put that on the record.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Yeah, listen, where'd you go? I gotta I gotta ask
where'd you go?

Speaker 4 (59:49):
I went to Phil's and I did not I did
not like it?

Speaker 1 (59:54):
All right, listen that that'll be another name I had
the list. Never go to Pat pat Ginos. Those are
absolute tourist attractions.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Those are the places people told us to go. Pats
and Fields.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Oh, those are It's literally a tourist attraction anymore. They're not.
It's not the same place it was thirty forty years ago.
Like if you're going after like like Tony Luke's isn't
bade Uh. The Sandro's is probably the place to go.
I love of Steve Princess steaks. There's one here in
the northeast. There's there's another one further than the Boulevard.

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I think that's one of the better places. Like it
really does depend on where you go in the city,
on what type of steak you're gonna get. What you
need to do the next time you come is actually
cut link up with an actual somebody from Philadelphia. Have
you go maybe maybe maybe we'll let we'll call big
down from the Eagles to tell them to show you
where the best steaks are.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
Well, look, I the guy that I bought was John Garbarino,
and I should have asked him because he slapped a
little canoli on me and the weigh ins.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Yeah, man, but no, that a thing. He has made
that a thing. You know, I gotta give him that. Actually,
before that, before that fight, you know, he was uh
you know uh when they did they pre fight press
conference over at Parks, I actually ran ran into his team.
He actually helped me get a few autographs for my

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son for Gregor. So, you know, gotten out of love
from them guys. You know, it's a you know, I'm
obviously a rough situation for you. You're basically you got
you had a trend started on your dime, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Well, I was the second I was the second guy,
and I didn't get slapped across the face with it,
So I was all right the gut. Yeah, he he
invited me to the after party, and ship I wasn't
too mad. I took the fight on two weeks notice
and I was up a couple of weight classes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
But he's you know, he's an interesting guy. Like we
were talking, pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
He gave me a shirt. I fucked with him a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
So yeah, Hnny, Johnny's a cool dude, like you know,
regardless of you know, him being an opponent, you having
to fight him or whatever. I think he's one of
these guys that you know, you know, has the potential
to be a huge star in Bare Knuckle Philly. We
were talking about before is my main Lex Lex Love

(01:02:16):
looks hell yo, man? That yeah exactly, He's he he
He is a pure pro wrestling concept when it comes
to fighting.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
That dude, that other dude that he thought was funny
as hell to uh what's his name?

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
No, the dude he bought in Philly.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Uh, Connor McKenna.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
M dude.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
I can't believe that dude. I watched his h TikTok
and all that ship. He is a funny motherfucker bro.
Oh my god. And they were talking to each other
that whole fight.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
Yoh, listen, we got some characters here in Philadelphia. I'm
not gonna sit there and say we have all the
best fighters. We you know, we have the best fourteen
one thing for sure. We do got the best fans.
I don't care what anyone says. No one travels like
Philadelphia fans, regardless that we're talking your major for sports,
if you're talking about combat sports. I think that just

(01:03:13):
as fans of of of sports in general, we just
get it. We know you we travel well. You know
you see it. You see it, especially with the Eagles
with we go into other other team stadiums and you
hear us just as much as you hear the hometown fans.
So you know, I think it's one of the rare
things that that we do have over other people. But

(01:03:36):
bigging back to the football part of it, how do
you see your boys playing out the rest of the season?
You you you see you guys keep keeping the division,
bringing the division title back? Or do you think somebody
like like the Rams are gonna gonna want to win
the division? You'll get in as a wild card, Like
how are you feeling? No?

Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
No, I think we. I think we.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
I think we come back and clinch the division. Man,
I I don't care what happens as long as the
Seahawks never go anywhere. And I'm from I'm from Seattle
and absolutely I can't stand them.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
So listen, it's the same way like, Uh, you know,
I'm an Eagles fan. You know my rivals started to start,
the New York Giants, Dallas Cowboys, Washington Commanders. That's the
way it always starts. Cowboys fans just have a special place.

(01:04:29):
It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter what happens. I just
love to watch that team fall apart. I all keep
saying it. Uh. You know, for whatever medical doctors and
medical experts that that they're are in the world, make
sure you keep Jerry Jones alive for another one hundred years,
because I cannot get it. Get good enough of that
soap opera that he continues to run.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
He's got enough money, He's got enough money. Hey, my
bone's about to die.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Brother. All right, brother, Uh, real quick before we let
you go, you know, Uh, let everyone know where to
find you. Let everyone know where to I am.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
I am the guy on the couch on TikTok. I
am Tough Guy Tuesday on Instagram and Rain Wells on Facebook.
Uh sponsor Fighters with an s dot com is my website,
and reach out to me.

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
Get to me however you can.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
All right, all right, Rain, appreciate your your time this evening.
Get back on the road. Drive safely, get get get
get home safely.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
Hey, this was this was the best podcast I've ever
been on.

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
Man, I appreciate you listen.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Sorry for the technical difficulties with the internet kicking app up,
we were still able to get to get everything done.
I'll shoot you some of the some of the clips
that that stream yard ops out and uh, you know,
we'll we'll share share everything we can. Appreciate the time. Man,
have a safe trip, all right, bro, thank you, not
a problem. All right? Everyone that was mister rain Wells.

(01:05:58):
Couldn't have couldn't have a a better way to end
our our our Sunday evening here on the South Florder
Tribune Media Network. Really appreciate Rain for hopping on to today.
We'll we'll definitely have him back on again at some
point in time in the future, you know, you know,
talk some talk some some fight game. Maybe we'll get

(01:06:19):
them the hop in here to talk some talk some
football with us when it's prevalent to talk some some
forty nine ers. You know, we'll see how what the
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