The Red Whine 09-09-24 Republican Recount State Senate Race Massachusetts

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Speaker 2 (03:17):
Hi everybody, it's Daryln Heywood and my friend Dixie is
here to co host with us tonight. She just flew in.
She is ex military, one of my friends. We're not
going to say her last name because she's super cool.
Cama Cray canceled tonight. She was going to be a
guest along with Matt Moore Torri. They are both buying

(03:38):
for the state Senate seat. And I'm actually texting Matt
more Tory right now with you.

Speaker 9 (03:46):
Right now? Man, Who he is?

Speaker 6 (03:48):
Yeah, I'm here, I'm here.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Oh hey, Matt, let me just finish my intro here, Matt,
thanks for being on with us. I appreciate it. You
have been, uh, buddy. Of course we're in Massachusetts. Matt
moretre has been a state Rep representing Plymouth. Is it Plymouth,
Pembroke Town.

Speaker 6 (04:13):
Smith was just three quarters of the town of Plymouth.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, so I grew up in Plymouth. I went to
missus Esti's was my second school teacher at Mount Pleasant
Elementary School. But Matt has been a state Rep for
ten years. He's kind enough to join us tonight. He
is in a contentious race with another Republican, Carrie mc ray,
carries second time running for state Senate, and they are

(04:37):
very close. So there's been a recount. This is the
first time, you know that I've ever heard of a recount.
I think there's a short, you know, short amount of votes.
But at first, Matt, before I give you a chance
to speak, I just want to read a quote from
Amy carnavally because she was kind enough to give us
a quote for today, and the mass GOP says we're

(05:00):
closely monitoring the recount and mass up's executive and political director,
John Milligan, will be on the ground to observe competitive
primaries our hallmark of a healthy party, and we are
pleased with the level of competition observed thus far. The
master UPE stands ready to support whoever Massachusetts Republicans have
chosen to best represent their values and communities against the

(05:22):
scandal prone democrat currently representing the district. So, Matt, can
you tell us what made you run for State Senate
at this point? And after that, if you can speak
a little bit, if you're able to a little bit
about the recount and explain to our listeners a little

(05:44):
bit about how that works.

Speaker 6 (05:46):
Sure Shell be happy. First of all, thank you so
much for to have me on. I really appreciate that.

Speaker 10 (05:51):
Just a little bit of my background in the political world.
I actually was on the finance committee in Plymouth and
two thousand and five I was appointed by the tom
Otter at the time, who's still a tom Outer, received
trifo Letti. My wife was an attorney and was working
with him, and he needed somebody on the Finance Committee.

Speaker 6 (06:10):
So I went on.

Speaker 10 (06:12):
Didn't know what it was about, but went on and
was on there for five years. A seat opened up
on the Border Selectman in twenty ten, and I was.

Speaker 6 (06:18):
A vice chair of the Finance Committee at the time,
and people.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
What's the budget there, Matt, what's the budget right now?

Speaker 10 (06:23):
It's over two hundred millions, about two hundred and thirty
million when.

Speaker 6 (06:26):
We started out.

Speaker 10 (06:27):
When I started out in twenty two thousand and five,
it was somewhere around one hundred and thirty hundred and
forty million.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
I just don't understand why our budgets keep increasing uncontrollably.

Speaker 6 (06:37):
Well, absolutely, because you know we don't. I'll tell you why.

Speaker 10 (06:41):
Well, let me finish up for us, and i'll tell
you why well, I think at least. So then I
was vice chair of the Finance Committee. Then a seat
opened up on the Border bort As Luckman. A bunch
of people, the same people said, once you're run for Seluckman.

Speaker 6 (06:53):
I did.

Speaker 10 (06:53):
I won twice twenty ten, twenty thirteen, and then this
seat opened up once I Center Presentory Smurray decided to retire.
Vinni d Massillo was the state Rep in Plymouth, and
he decided to go for that seat and he won
and I won as well in twenty fourteen. So I
really never thought I'd be doing any of this, but
here I am doing this, and I believe that I'm

(07:16):
very fiscally conservative, and I believe we don't do zero budgeting.

Speaker 6 (07:20):
And in the business world, and I come from the
business world, what.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Do you do in the business world or what did
you do and do you do that simultaneously with your
state Rep seat?

Speaker 6 (07:29):
Right now?

Speaker 10 (07:30):
I used to own child daycare centers. We own it
for twenty years, but I was in the process of
selling them last year and finished selling the last one
early year, and so we got out of that business
and I planned on getting out of that.

Speaker 6 (07:43):
And now I've been a nursing administrator since nineteen ninety one.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
I held my gosh practice as.

Speaker 10 (07:49):
A nursing administrator since COVID. But we do have a
company that does consulting in Massachusetts.

Speaker 6 (07:55):
But I'm won.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Hopefully it's not connected to Bennett Walsh.

Speaker 6 (07:58):
I don't know who that is, but no, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
It wasn't he the guy who ran the I could
be wrong in the name, but wasn't he the man
who ran the Old Soldiers Home?

Speaker 6 (08:08):
I forget, Yeah, I know who he's talking about it.

Speaker 10 (08:13):
But he wasn't even a licensed nursing on Ministry, which
floyed me when I found that out, because you have
to be licensed in every other you know, every other
nursing on Masters, so you have to have a license
from Masters to do that.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Well, I would hope. So now, why wouldn't Charlie bake
a check something like that? It seems like, you know,
throwing somebody to the wolves.

Speaker 6 (08:29):
Yep, that has since changed, so now that's oh, that's good. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (08:32):
So the budgeting, I think I always believe in zero budgets,
so you don't you don't build on the budget from
the year before.

Speaker 6 (08:39):
I think what you do is.

Speaker 10 (08:40):
You take a zero budget and you build a budget
from there based on what you think the revenues are
going to be.

Speaker 6 (08:44):
And you know what we're doing in Massachusetts. We just
keep building.

Speaker 10 (08:47):
We just keep adding revenue by adding taxes of these
And I don't think that's.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
How many how many people have left? I mean, you
have access probably to a lot more information than the
regular person does. But the information that I had says
that we have forty nine thousand people have left the state.

Speaker 10 (09:03):
Yeah, I don't know, I don't I don't know the
exact number, but it is. It is in the thousands
on a weekly basis. That people are leaving particularly, and
there's two different groups of it. Really, it's it's the
people who are retired, and I believe the millionaire attacks
really really put a strain on those folks that they
have left the state and they're living in places like
Florida and New Hampshire and the Carolinas. And I also

(09:25):
think what's really happening now too, is we're losing the
people from the younger people from the colleges. As you know,
we have some of the best universities and colleges in
the entire world, and they come here and in the
past they would stay here after they graduated, but now
they can't afford it.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
So if you.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Look at in South Boston, for instance, which is right
around the corner from you in Mouse Boston. Yeah, I
mean though, that's you know, all working class families where
if they sell their three deco right now, they're set
for the rest of their life. They probably bought it
for eight thousand dollars on you know, on E Street, right. So,
but what I wanted to add see what specifically was

(10:01):
when we talked about the budgets, how do you put
the budget together? And what's the responsibility of the state
reps to kind of rein in any kind of spending.
I mean, like this billion dollars, where did this billion
dollars go? We've been asking more heley where this billion
dollars went? For illegal aliens? And I also want to

(10:21):
focus on Dylan Fernandez too, because you and Carrie are
both Republican candidates a year in incumbent obviously, but in
a different seat, are running against Dylan Fernandez. And I
happen to have a picture of Dylan with all these
illegal aliens and they're flashing gang signs and it's MS

(10:46):
thirteen and I haven't yet, we haven't figured out what
the other two gang signs are. We have some gang
investigators that are looking into that. But how does that
sit with you when you have Dylan Fernandez. He actually
went down onto Hyannas, which is a town, well is
a village in the town or actually the city in

(11:06):
Barnstable that I live in, and he went drinking with
all these people, And how does that comport with financially
the financial burden on people right now. And what do
you have to say about Dylan Fernandez.

Speaker 10 (11:21):
Yeah, well, first of all, with regard to the billion
dollars plus, and it's a lot more than a billion
dollars that were spending on these migrants and most of
them illegal migrants coming into the state. We as a
Republican caucus, as you know, there's twenty nine of us
out of one hundred out of two hundred four in
the Senate and twenty five in the House, and we've
been united for well over a year now, and try

(11:42):
to change the right to shelter law. We try to say, okay,
you have to be a Massachusetts resident for our twelve
months or six months, or nine months or three months.
We also block budgets, We also block funding for it,
and it gets overridden every time by the Democrats because
they're leading the charge here in Massachusetts.

Speaker 6 (12:00):
One of the things that.

Speaker 10 (12:00):
We're running on, Carrie and I always talked about was
a balance of power. That we need more Republicans. We
need to have, you know, two teams on the field,
and right now we don't.

Speaker 6 (12:09):
And I want to.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Let me just let me just interject there if I
may in, Dixie's here, my friend. She's retired from the military.
We're not going to say her last name because she's
super cool, but she's going to be with us today.

Speaker 11 (12:23):
So hey, uh yeah, got you fabulous.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
So I totally just lost my trained thought. It happens
when you're fifty eight.

Speaker 10 (12:34):
And Matt has six daughters as well as I think
Carrie has two daughters and a couple of grandchildren.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
So so you both, what I thought was great. And
I heard this from Carrie, and you can confirm or
deny or whatever you want to do, but I heard
her say, I believe it was on w XTK that
you and she both agreed to a recount or I
don't know who did it first, but you're you're united
indust recount. Is that correct?

Speaker 6 (13:02):
Well, let me clarify a little bit. The day after
the election.

Speaker 10 (13:06):
The morning after, Carrie called me and it indicate to
me that, you know, she's thinking of doing a recount
because it was so close. And I said to her
at that point, I said, you know, I probably would
too if I was you, and we kind of talked
about it, but we agreed at that point that whatever
decides to happen with a recount. We need to go
forward with a with going after a Dylan Fernande says

(13:29):
the Democratic co bonent, because we need to have a
Republican in the seat.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
So we both agreed to do that.

Speaker 10 (13:34):
And then later on, after I was able to speak
to some experts and a couple of lawyers, we did
have a conversation the early afternoon on Wednesday, and I said,
you know, Kerry, obviously you do what you want to do,
but we are finding out that to turnover forty I
think it was forty eight votes at that point, to
turn that over is almost impossible to do because of
the electronic machines they have nowadays, and seven out of

(13:57):
the eight communities do have electronic machines. One does not
plump in as does handcounts. Still, but they were only
like two hundred and four ballots.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Well what about the mail in ballads? It was what
I wanted to actually compliment that to you, this isn't
this wasn't a criticism. So let me just go ahead
with my compliment, because you know, because I've texted to
you and I've spoken to you, and Carrie knows, and
you know not that the three of us have agreed,
but you understand that we are going to fully support
you if you're the victor, and Carrie understands we're going

(14:25):
to fully support her if she's a vis. So we
we made that agreement very early on. I want to say,
like maybe December, right right, so you know this this
this wasn't like to pit you against Carrie in any way,
you know, although you know Carrie doesn't have a record,
and you do. What I wanted to focus on tonight was,

(14:47):
you know, the mail in ballads? What do we do
about these mail in ballads? Because when I ran for
State Committee, I never bothered reporting it. I should have
reported it, but I was just I was so disgusted
with the whole system. All these mail in ballads poured
in and then all of a sudden, my blanks in
the blank is you know when someone skips your name.

(15:08):
My blank turned into votes for my opponent. And she
was a twelve year incumbent, and I think we were
within thirteen points. So that's I think if there's like
six thousand votes, that's like eight hundred votes or something,
so for a twelve year incumbent. So I mean, I
think you would admit that Carrie coming so close to

(15:31):
someone who's been in politics for a decade is fairly significant.

Speaker 6 (15:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
I mean, I'm not going to take anything away from her.

Speaker 6 (15:39):
No, not at all.

Speaker 10 (15:40):
And if I may, we knew this race was going
to be very close. We knew it, and that's why
we poured so much into it. We you know, we
raised eighty nine thousand dollars. We knocked over eleven thousand doors.
You know, my wife sent letters to many folks down
and down the Kpe area that that were with. I mean,

(16:00):
everything possible we did because we knew it was going
to be close.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
But what did Cary spend? You spent eighty nine thousand dollars?

Speaker 11 (16:07):
No?

Speaker 6 (16:07):
I raised. I raised eighty nine thousands.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Oh okay, you didn't spend it.

Speaker 6 (16:10):
Yeah, no, no, I haven't spent all that.

Speaker 10 (16:13):
But my point, My point is that we knew she'd
run a spirit a campaign, and we knew she was
a former opponent, so we did not take it lightly whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
And did you think about carry getting fired for free
speech when she was supposed to be a teacher in Handover?

Speaker 10 (16:29):
I don't know too much and too much about it,
but I do I do worry about you know, the
free speech issue, and I have been for quite some
time now in our country, and you know, and I think,
you know, we've gotten away from that that you know,
people can people should be respectful about their thoughts and
all that, but they should be able to to speak freely.
But in her particular case, I don't really know the

(16:51):
whole scenario. But if free speech from what I understand
from from people talking, if that's the reason why I don't,
I think it's concerning.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, I am worried about it myself. I mean, I
I made a donation to a Republican candidate the other
day and my bank card was shut off. Really like
I called. I was in Fancies market. I had just
left the beach, so I mean I was looking hagged.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
I was.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
I had each beach hair and sand all over me,
and I had not seventy four dollars worth a grocery
to cook dinner. And the woman said, your card has declined.
I'm like, Holy, it's so embarrassing, you know. I mean,
I make enough money at retired state police. I have
money in the bank, thank god, not as much as
I had, you know, five years ago. But so they

(17:38):
said to me, Well, what have you? Where have you
spent I'm like, oh crap. I'm like, okay, So I
gave my kid my card to buy Chipolti for him
and his friends because they had friends over. I don't
know how much that was. And they're like, well, do
you know what dollar and cents? I'm like I don't know.
And they're like, did you donate to win Red? I'm like, oh, yeah,
I did. I said, you're shutting my card down because

(17:58):
I donated to a republic candidate. She's like, oh no, no,
it was this this purchase that I made before, I said,
but that purchase went through, but my donation didn't go through.

Speaker 11 (18:10):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, So how do we feel about a bank? This
is what I'm scared about. How do we this is
I don't like the cryptocurrency. How do we feel about
a bank shutting down a bank card because you donated
to win Red. You know, I don't know if they
would have done it if I don't know any Republicans
to donate to, I mean Democrats to donate to. So
I don't know, but you know, what could you do

(18:34):
as a state senator to kind of rein in.

Speaker 11 (18:39):
Censorship?

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Censorship?

Speaker 10 (18:41):
I mean well, one of the things we need to
do first off the bat is we need to be
able to uh audit the legislature, and we need to
have transparency and all the meetings that happen. It's something
that I've been advocating for for almost a decade now.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
I was, why do you think that they're so against
Diana uh Got the state auditor. And by the way,
she you know, I have to say, she is my
favorite Democrat, probably.

Speaker 11 (19:09):
The only Democrat.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
But well, I don't know, you know, like you know,
I have Democrat friends that have run for Congress before.
I mean, I do know where you know, work.

Speaker 10 (19:20):
With her in the house and I got I have
a great deal. I always had a great deal of
respect for her.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Well, what I respect about her is that she was
fired erroneously or I would say legally terminated, and she
was subject to a non disclosure agreement. And I want
to since you're the father of six daughters, I would
like to get your thoughts on this, because I think
that this is really important. I don't think people understand

(19:47):
what it's like. And I'm going to use a tiny
bit of fool language, but my first day as an
undercover narcotics officer assigned to the DA. One of the
guys said to me, I don't know if I want
to feed you or fuck you, and thank you, Rick,

(20:10):
You're the best. So basically what he said to me
was he liked heavy girls and I was super skinny,
platinum bond and I don't know if I want to
feed you or fuck you. And I was like, oh,
you're getting a lunch order, I'll take an Italian toasted
no hots, don't fuck it up. And that is basically
how I survived through that. And I don't know what

(20:30):
the instances were, but I know that Diana Desauglio was
sexually harassed. She she does not talk about it because
retaliation is real. I love the way she's handled it.
But Matt, she got up on the floor of the
house and said, I'm not pointing fingers, I'm not naming names.
And I don't know if you remember this. I don't
know if you were there. I'm not naming names because

(20:53):
retaliation is real. I will give back the money if
someone asks me to. But this non disclosure and sexual
harassment in the state House has got to stop.

Speaker 6 (21:04):
I was I was there when she did that.

Speaker 10 (21:06):
It was very powerful, and I don't disagree with her
at all about the non disclosure agreements.

Speaker 6 (21:12):
Look, I think this is you know, their legal maneuvers
as you know, why they're.

Speaker 10 (21:17):
Done, but to silence somebody, particularly a woman, for things
that have happened to him.

Speaker 6 (21:23):
And I don't know the story of really I don't.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
I don't know it either. She hasn't revealed it.

Speaker 6 (21:27):
But I really have concerns about that.

Speaker 10 (21:29):
And people should, you know, shouldn't have to lose whatever
compensation they got because they signed a non disclosure agreement
and to keep quiet.

Speaker 6 (21:37):
I don't think. I don't think that's right.

Speaker 10 (21:38):
And I you know, and I really never thought about
it before until be honest with it, until she actually
brought it up on the House Law and then I
related back to my six daughters. I'm like, yeah, if
that ever happened to them, you know, I want them
to get compensated again, an apology and all that, But
shouldn't have to sign a non disclosure agreement?

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, I so I'm gonna I'm gonna touch probably a
little bit of a Swiss swad, but it's nothing that
you don't know about. A commercial with some some Democrats
god Lanatra and forgive me. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So,
you know, I feel that the reason why Carrie has

(22:17):
gained such traction is because I you know, I feel
that and this is just my personal opinion that people
are tired of the bs with candidates being chosen for us.
And one of the things that I revealed when I
ran for State Senate in twenty twenty two was the

(22:37):
unwritten rule. And the unwritten rule is when elected Republicans
refused to support Republican candidates against incumbent Democrats. So I
want to know, you know, in the greater sense of
you know, government is supposed to protect its its citizens.
That's the main goal of government. So how do we

(22:59):
fight again and being bullied into acquiescing to what the
Democrats want with whether it's an omnibus bill or whether
it's bullying, or whether it's you know, I'm gonna cut
off donations to your campaign. Where is there a voice
for someone who's in between, you know, a carry in

(23:22):
a Matt moratory. How how is someone supposed to reconcile?
You can't like every single thing about every single person.
And I think one of the things that people are
upset about that I've heard is that you endorsed the
two Democrats over to Republican candidates. Now, I understand maybe
those Republican candidates weren't up to par, But should there

(23:45):
be a space in the Republican party where we say
I don't want to support that Republican because that's not
the Republican I am? Or do we? Republicans of Massachusetts
are not as devoted as the Democrats are. They vote
straight party ticket, crazy for crazy people, which is the problem. Yeah,

(24:07):
go ahead, So so how do you how will you
reconcile those you know? And and by note, like I
think everybody's judged. I think, oh, you're too Republican, you're
too conservative, you're two whatever. But I know once you
get in that house that if you get somebody who's
like squishy, those Democrats are going to move your desk

(24:30):
into the hallway and treat you like a broomstick. So
how do we satisfy the voters? And and so they
feel like they're being heard?

Speaker 10 (24:43):
Yeah, well, I go back to the very beginning where
I said we need to we need to elect more
Republicans period.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Okay, we say that, right, Yeah, go ahead, sorry.

Speaker 10 (24:53):
Alan as Republicans in Massachusetts it's easy for us to
vote against the speaker the how some policies, and we
do that all the time. That's that's easy for us.
For Democrats, it's not that easy because what happens to
them is that, you know what you said.

Speaker 6 (25:10):
They do get punished.

Speaker 10 (25:11):
A lot of them have you know, uh, these extra
stipends for whether they're cheers or vice cheers or whatever
whatever they are. So it's very difficult to vote against
the Speaker of the House, against anything.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
But are you saying that, let me for clarity, are
you saying that they're financially bullied to go along to
get along with the Democrat Party?

Speaker 6 (25:33):
And that's that's that's it.

Speaker 10 (25:36):
I mean, they have it's you know, and I've heard
other people say that go on to get along.

Speaker 6 (25:41):
It's in the Democratic circle. It's not with us Republicans.

Speaker 10 (25:45):
We can vote whatever we however we want. Nothing it
can happen to us. We have we have Leader Jones,
and we have our own caucuses.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
But then why does some why do some Republicans vote?
Do they vote a certain way because they figure, hey,
I won't vote against this because it's going to pass anyways.
Because that's some of the things that I've heard.

Speaker 6 (26:06):
Maybe yeah, maybe a little bit. But a lot of
it is district too.

Speaker 10 (26:09):
Some districts are different, Like this district is more purple
than say, down the Website area, which is very conservative,
very red. So you're really voting on how your district
wants you to vote as Republicans at least.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Well, I mean wait, like your district didn't tell you
to endorse two Democrats.

Speaker 6 (26:28):
Well do you want me to address that?

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (26:31):
I mean yeah, if I can't. So what I'm saying
is like, let me just address that.

Speaker 10 (26:36):
Let me just address that first, because people, and I've
said this publicly many times, there was no endorsement involved there.

Speaker 6 (26:41):
But I'll tell let me frame it. What happened.

Speaker 10 (26:44):
So back in twenty twenty two, particularly the fall of
twenty twenty two, and what people forget is I had
an opponent. I always have had opponent. So we look
at our campaigns, say what do we need to do
to strategize to win this election? And the one thing
we had to do was we had to look. We
had to show the people of Plymouth who vote for
me that I do work across the aisle, because in

(27:05):
Plymouth they like when you work together now, the reason
for the commercial was for that.

Speaker 6 (27:09):
And if you remember back then, the mass GOP.

Speaker 10 (27:13):
Wasn't somewhat disarray and there wasn't any There was wasn't
any support and financial resources, nothing coming from Masso GOP.
So as Republicans, we were on our own. So unfortunately,
let me fast. So at that point, you were on
our own as Republicans to run. So we need to

(27:34):
raise our own money and you do all our own things.
But this was a strategy. And then not once did
we ever say this is an endorsement. And I'm fighting
for my life and my election. And unfortunately, sometimes elections
are selfish, they are really selfish. And I couldn't go
out and support anybody else. I had my own race
to run, and I think that's what people what people

(27:55):
forget about that election is that I had my own race.

Speaker 6 (27:58):
But it never used the word endorsement. I see what.

Speaker 10 (28:00):
People think that it appeared to be, but that's not
what it was at all. And I got to tell you,
I'm flattered to think that people outside of Plymouth, you know,
like Pembroke and these other places know who Matt Miratory is.

Speaker 6 (28:11):
In October twenty twenty two, they didn't. They don't. They
didn't know who I was, so that wasn't the point
of it whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Well, I appreciate you addressing that, because yeah, sure, it's
you know, I wish sometimes. I wish sometimes that I
never ran for State Senate. And I mean that honestly
because I worked in I was in the state Police
for twenty five years, and I've seen the underbelly and

(28:41):
that changes you as a person. Not only I mean
if you see it, when you see dismembered people in
a car crash, you get in your car and you're like,
you know, I have three kids. I had a Ford expedition.
It was a two thousand and five. It fit three
full sized car seats along the back. But I thought,
my god, I'm putting this kid here and not in
the middle, Like I was freaking out about if I

(29:02):
got in a crash. And now you know, when I
talked to candidates like I had, we had Diana and
I she's not with us. I hope she pops in soon.
But we had Robert Antonellis, We had Aaron Packard who
was a writing candidate. Ian Kane and John Deaton refused

(29:23):
to come on, but the Master Op chose the candidate
that they wanted to to get behind or that or
that they wanted to win, and it just seems like
we are losing on the cape. We lost the district
attorney's race, we lost the sheriff, we lost the state
rep seat and the DA. I mean, that's when you

(29:46):
lose the DA.

Speaker 10 (29:48):
That was and that's exactly what I'm talking about, exactly. Yeah, yeah,
that's a problem.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
But you're the master Uop is She's now the I
think it's very I want to say vice president, but
it's vice here. They supported all those people and they
and they got beat And we've been losing Democrats for
the last twelve years and now Charlie Baker has actually
thrown his money to Democrats. So when is Charlie Baker went?

(30:15):
First of all, when is he going to get his
foot out of Massachusetts? And when are Republicans? Can they
ever speak their mind? Or is it a consistent like
is everybody lying about everything? Is there a piece of
truth in what people say? It's I've become so skeptical
in this sense too, right, And that's why I wanted
to have you on it because people will say, I

(30:37):
don't like that kind of republican or this kind of republican.
Bobby anton Allis ran on trump Ian Kane. It seemed
to me was the only one that had any sort
of municipal budget business experience and seemed like the correct
choice to me. But the Master Up chose John Deaton.
And I don't want to take away from you and carry,

(30:58):
but who wrote a book about framing his sister as
an attorney? So like, is it the leadership that needs
to change in Massachusetts or is it the electorate? What
do we need to do to electric?

Speaker 10 (31:11):
I think the leadership has changed, and that's why I
keep going back to October twenty twenty two.

Speaker 6 (31:16):
So since the.

Speaker 10 (31:16):
Leadership has changed and the elections happen, as you know
on March fifth, there is more unity in the mass
EUOP at this point.

Speaker 6 (31:23):
And I but you see that with Peter Durant won
a special election, right, I think his seat.

Speaker 10 (31:32):
So we're starting to see that now and the Master
EUOP has turned it around. They have funds now, they
have a good amount of funds now. They will be
able to help candidates like myself win the seat. This
is going to be a tough seat to win in.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
This Why would they give you money, but not carry.

Speaker 10 (31:47):
No no, no, no, no, no no. They'll give anybody
money wins this great. This is the number one seat
that the mass euop sees that we can win back.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Let's talk about Dylan Fernandez. Tell me you dislike about
Dylan Fernandez. And you know we leave at ten, so
you have to.

Speaker 6 (32:05):
I only have a few more minutes.

Speaker 10 (32:07):
But I got to tell you the policies that he supports,
particularly around the migrants. Again, we've knocked over eleven thousand
doors in this district and we hear time after time
at the time it's a whole migrant issue.

Speaker 6 (32:19):
That's the issue.

Speaker 10 (32:20):
It revolves around affordability. It arounds affordability for housing. It
takes away house different veterans from Massachusetts residents. It's to
all the policies and the things that we're trying to
do to just or get rid of the right to shelter.
The law that he has supported and the policies that
he's been supporting over the last eight years are just

(32:40):
I think, just dead wrong and in reality, I think
they're dangerous for this district.

Speaker 6 (32:45):
What's happening.

Speaker 10 (32:46):
And that's the difference between the carrier myself and and
Dylan Fernandez, and we're going to make We're going to
make these issues about affordability, about a balance of power,
and about this migrant crisis. The issues not national. There's
no national issues that we're talking about. We are talking
about these issues because these are the issues that the
people of this district, well and the Massachusetts want to

(33:07):
talk about and need some resolution on. And putting another Democrat,
you know, up and up and Beacon Hill in the
Senate is not the solution to it. The solution is
adding more Republicans.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Well, I hope that that is the solution. And I
don't know if you believe in God, but I pray
for our country and our state and for you and Carrie.
As we've said, the red Wine has vowed to support
the winning candidate, and unfortunately Carrie had some some she
was helping her I think her helping her daughter move.

(33:42):
I'm hoping maybe she'll pop in before that. But Matt,
I really appreciate you are the first I want to say,
like other Republicans that's agreed to come on with us,
and we're not scary, right, We're not. We don't we
didn't bite anybody, you.

Speaker 10 (33:55):
Know what I said to people. We're all Republicans now,
whether you know. And one of the carry and I had,
you know, one of the questions was how republican are
how conserved value is a republic And I said, I
think I'm about an eight.

Speaker 6 (34:07):
And she was a ten plus plus. Yeah, and that's okay.

Speaker 10 (34:10):
But you know, ninety percent of the time we agree
on so many different things. And Carrie and I are
debate and when we talk privately, there's so many things
we agree on. But what the disagreement is is with
with the Democratic opponent, Dylan Fernandez. And that's that's the target.
That's what we need to get at. We need to
get the truth out about him and the policies that
he supports.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
And so one last question, and so Carrie has run
for this seat before, Yeah, do you feel that like
are you?

Speaker 5 (34:42):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Jesse Brown won the primary right for your gated Yep.
I'm so good for Jesse. Jesse's daughter, Actually my daughter
are really good friends a lot, So I want to
give Jesse a little plug.

Speaker 6 (34:54):
Yeah, we're good.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
But what I wonder about is, you know, it's still
this It's like, oh, we need to elect more Republicans,
yet we have this unwritten rule where some of these
Republicans can't they can't get I think we should. Primaries
are really hard because you have a short amount of
time to raise funds for your primary, and then the

(35:17):
general election is so close that it seems like we're
bankrupting Republican candidates. I see in your OCPF you have
raised like fifty fifty thousand. I'm sure you have more
coming in. It's only for the September our August race.
But should we be spending millions of dollars like this?

Speaker 10 (35:35):
No, it's it's it's we should be spending that kind
of money on other causes, good causes like you know,
homeless shelters and you know people that need it, and
you know food insecurity and things like that. It's it's
And you hear the money that's being spent on the
national races as well, it's it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
It's some of the Massachusetts DVD cards being used in
MAUI I think it was over like a billion dollars
being used on vacations. You know, I personally took my
kids out of public school and sent them to Catholic school.
You though I'm not Catholic, and I haven't been on
a vacation of five years. So if somebody on eb
T cards is going to Hawaii, sign me up for

(36:13):
that again, everybody. Matt Moratri he vacated his decade long
seat as a state rep for the town of Pullmouth, Massachusetts,
and he is buying for a vacated state Senate seat.
He and Carrie McCrae, who is also a Republican. Matt,
thank you so much for joining us. We are really greatful,

(36:34):
appreciate that, and uh we hope that win or lose,
you will come speak to us after and you're happy
when you can't be as honest. But if you don't win, maybe.

Speaker 6 (36:46):
What what you what you don't know about me?

Speaker 10 (36:49):
I am and you know again I have six daughters
and and I actually you know, I'm very straightforward, you know, open,
honest guys.

Speaker 6 (36:57):
So that's just who I am.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Can you know that I am too because I texted
you and we spoke, right, we spoke.

Speaker 6 (37:03):
We spoke, Yeah, we spoke early on yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
And that and I and I followed through with everything
I said I would do, and uh, you know, in
my heart, I and Carrie too, I think she said
as well, like we no matter which one of you wins,
we really need to have a show of power. And
whether you support Trump or you don't support Trump, in

(37:27):
my heart, shouldn't we need to think locally? Yeah, and uh,
we need to bring people together. And if you're willing
to do that, absolutely.

Speaker 6 (37:39):
Okay.

Speaker 10 (37:40):
Any Republican candidate's always said this public I'm running on
a balance of power. I'm running on more Republicans. We
need more Republicans period.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
One other question, so, say you win, will you support
down ballid candidates that that you feel can win, even
if the Master Up doesn't agree.

Speaker 10 (38:02):
I the answer is yes, I would, And I think
I really believe you after talking to Amy and others
and the Master Up, they.

Speaker 6 (38:09):
Will be supporting every Republican candidate.

Speaker 10 (38:13):
I really believe they want to do because they believe
in the same thing, a balance of power.

Speaker 6 (38:16):
We need more.

Speaker 11 (38:17):
Well.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
I don't want to I don't want to get into
what Amy kind of believes because I don't want to
taint your Yeah.

Speaker 10 (38:22):
Yeah, no, no, no, I'm not just saying I I see
what they're trying to do.

Speaker 6 (38:27):
They are trying to elect more Republicans. We need them.

Speaker 10 (38:29):
They believe that as well. Except for Trump, no, I
believe the State Party is. Matter of fact, I was
with Brad Wyatt at a cohaestive event yesterday morning. Yeah,
and he was talking about what the mass UP is
doing for for the Trump campaign. So yeah, no, they're
very much involved with that.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
All right, Well, thanks for Claire friend that we will
follow up. We'll have Brad Wyatt on. He really exactly,
he'll do wonderful things for the mass GP and UH,
in two more years we'll be back here again with
you or Carrie, and we really want to our Our
objective here is to you know, give the heisman to

(39:11):
Dylan Fernandez. We don't we don't want him. We don't
need another Julian's here, correct, all right, Matt, God bless you,
God bless Carrie.

Speaker 6 (39:20):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Appreciate We'll catch up with you soon.

Speaker 6 (39:22):
All right. You take the thanks very much, so, Dick.

Speaker 11 (39:30):
It was interesting. He had some good points that he
brought up. It's good to know that he will support
anybody on the Republican ballot side of things that actually wins,
So if he loses, he's willing to support his opponents.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Well, we actually talked in back in December when uh
we found out that Matt was quote asked to run
against Karen McCrae. And you know, I had called and
had a conversation with him Carnivalley, and I asked her
straight out, I said, did did you or did the
party ask Matt Moratory to run against Karen McCrae. And

(40:10):
if so, you know, did you inform Carrie McCrae of that?
Because how I mean, look what Carrie has done and
look what she had, what she has overcome. She is
thirty nine votes away from tying Matt Moratory. And Matt
is a tenure incumbent of State Rep in Plymouth. He

(40:34):
does have six daughters. In full disclosure. When Matt nice Folk,
he was very gentlemanly. He was very open to having
a discussion with me. He didn't hang up on me.
I texted him first, I think, and he called me back.
I think. I think I contacted his office maybe to
speak with him, and so I think he thought I

(40:55):
was a constituent until we start. You know, he started
to ask questions and I started to answer, but I
basically asked him, I said, you know, you have six daughters,
and I'm just curious why you would usurp Carrie instead
of supporting you know, Carrie, females when you have six

(41:15):
daughters and listen, I'm not trying to slam that at all.
This was the conversation that we had. But how would
you feel if someone took credit for your daughter's work,
like say she was doing a pH d and she
wrote a thesis and then all of a sudden, somebody
still put the name on it, you know. And I'm
not saying that he stole anything. I'm trying I have
I'm bad with analogies, but Dixie, what I wanted to
say is like, it's a team and you and the military,

(41:39):
and you understand teamwork. I disagree with the fact that
the Republican Party in Massachusetts is unified. I mean I
disagree with that greatly.

Speaker 11 (41:49):
I entirely disagree with that.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah, and that and that worries me because no matter
what side you're you're on, you know if you're going
to well esque with another group or not. I mean,
there was a state committee meeting recently and the leadership
of the Master UOP had not explained Robert's rules to

(42:15):
the new state committee members, so they didn't understand that
those meetings were governed by by Roberts rules, and I
hope that Diane pops on and soon because she is
the expert on Roberts rules. And it's basically how government
meetings are run. I don't know if it's used in
any non profits or whatever, but it's a way to
keep decorum so that people get a voice and they

(42:41):
get to talk, and which is good because when you
have highly contentious debate, as we do in politics, you
need to have some kind of you know, you need
to stop talking. You have to and it you know,
like it's gonna be solid, it turns into a mud slinging,
you know, MND wrestling match, and we don't want that.

Speaker 11 (43:00):
Some people might want that.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Well, I don't know if anybody wants that, but there
are definitely different factions in there are factions of the
Republican Party. And this is what I was trying to
get to. You know, I feel that this isn't to
take away from from Bob Antonellis or Aaron Packard. I
think they were a little bit over their toes as

(43:24):
far as experience and answering questions and just basically being
knowledgeable about how government works. I remember asking one of
the candidates Aaron or Bobby Antonellis and they said, well
that that wasn't on his sheet and he needed to
look it up. But you know, it was a question.

(43:44):
I can't remember the question, but it was something that
I thought that they should have known. And me personally,
I thought Ian Kane was a good candidate, and you know,
did I care that he was wants a Democrat for
a cup of coffee? No, But our Republican Party seems

(44:06):
to think if you don't support Trump, your trash. So
that's not inclusive because why can't we have different ideas
but our main goal, our main umbrella. We run the
under the auspices of conservativism and what is it? What

(44:27):
is conservatism?

Speaker 12 (44:28):
Like?

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Why are you conservative? And obviously you're a retired military member.

Speaker 11 (44:34):
I don't if we speak in terms of today, today's
world and what's going on, I don't like what has
been done over the past three and a half years.
For one, definitely, I don't want my children and my
grandchildren to have to be in this world and fight

(44:55):
for every single thing. While we just like have a
money tree, it seems to print out money day after
day after day after day, so that we're in debt
in the billions, millions, thousands, however you want to put it,
and nobody agrees with anybody, and everybody blames everybody else.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Well, people don't like they say, you know what bothered
What bothered me is okay? I mean I'm using Ian
Kane as an example, right.

Speaker 11 (45:24):
It was very well spoken because I heard the interview.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Right, and I met him through Judy Crocker at the
I think you were. I was there at the Barnstable
Republican Town Committee. So thank you Judy Crocker for introducing
us to Ian Kane. But he received no help from
the mass GP none. And you know, they labeled him

(45:46):
from the very beginning and they sort of wrote his
narrative before he had a chance to even express it.
I mean, he is a city councilor in Quincy for
like ten years, right, and I think he's been re
elected five times. So when I was the station commander
of South Boston, I worked frequently, you know, because the

(46:09):
city of Quincy was in my jurisdictions. Quincy, South Boston. God, yeah,
I forget the whole area. It's been a long time,
but those people are extremely involved in their politics. I
mean self Boston people. I think some of them would
like to put a barricade around the city and only
let you come in and out, because they would complain

(46:31):
all the people are speeding on Dave Boulevard. So as
a station commander, I would set up a speech out
and all the people that caught were from selfie and
they're like, hey, but I'm from here. I don't know
you were the one doing the complaining. But I guess
what I'm saying is those people, I think because they
live in such I don't know if it's because they
live in such close quarters they have more of a

(46:53):
sense of community than the suburbs do. Because like your
cousin and your uncle, like the whole family lives in
South A two streets over your ex boyfriend from elementary school.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 11 (47:06):
Is now, that's the same when you went to a wedding,
Oh my god, yes, and everybody knew who your cousin
was and who your auntie was. And we weren't even
like anywhere near where their house was. We were blocks away,
and they were like, oh, yeah, she gets this. This
is this. So that was.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Everybody knows everything about everybody, and they're very involved in
their politics, and I had an opportunity as a station
commander of South Boston to attend these community meetings with
my commander, who at the time was Ricky Ball, and
we went to these Boston City Council meetings. It was
like I think Michelle woo Ayanna Presley, I think they

(47:47):
were the Boston City Council with Michael Flaherty at the
same in Boston. I forget who else was there, but
very very involved, and you don't. I guess My point
is like, you don't get re elected in Quincy five
times in a row if you do want a terrible job.
Correct And someone said, oh, well, he complimented Michelle will Okay, Well,

(48:12):
we just spoke to Matt Moore Tori who said sometimes
you have to I mean he didn't say this, but
sometimes you have to kiss a little ass to get
shit done. And that's what shit done. The what I
don't like about it is the you know, Ian Kane

(48:33):
come out and said, which one of the things I
don't agree with, I'm not going to vote right, Well,
if you're not going to vote, then I think we
should have petitioned to have a I'm not happy with
either candidate right to send a message that we are
not happy with either candidate.

Speaker 11 (48:50):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
And we've also seen that John Deaton, because you know,
being ex military both of us, but you were active duty.
We saw the Master up throw money behind John Daton,
and I think it's despicable.

Speaker 11 (49:08):
It's disgusting that they would back such a candidate. John
Deeton admittedly self admits that he's a criminal. Even while
he was an attorney for the United States Marine Corps,
he was a jag officer. I believe had his sister
falsely accused of stabbing him.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
No, he falsely accused her.

Speaker 11 (49:31):
Right, he thought that's what I meant to say.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Sorry, Yeah, he falsely accused her, And I'm trying to
find an actually from the book.

Speaker 11 (49:37):
She actually ended up spending six weeks, I believe, in jail,
like actual jail, for something that she never did, which
is absolutely abhorrent.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
He says. This is John Daton, page forty seven. I
flew home that weekend, only telling my brother Todd. What
happened next would cause Tina, his sister, and I not
to speak for several years. I arrived at my mother's
house one in the morning. Tina was asleep on the couch.
Coming down for a heroin Binge. I walked into my
mother's bedroom and told her that, no matter what she

(50:09):
may hear, don't come out of the bedroom until I
say so. I told the same to my sister Michelle.
My brother Todd had picked me up at the airport
and was in the kitchen. I grabbed a steak knife
from the drawer and told Todd, do not open the door.
Do not peek through. There can be no witnesses. Now,
I want to reiterate, this guy's an attorney for the
Judge Advocate General in the Marine Corps. Todd's face became pale. John,

(50:33):
What the fuck are you doing? What needs to be done? Brother?
No matter what, do not open the door. I closed
the door to the living room. I grabbed a chair
in the wireless phone, and then I sat down in
front of the couch and placed the knife on my knee.
I shook Tina to wake her. It took several minutes
to shake her fog. When she awoke, she's just startled.

(50:54):
What are you gonna do?

Speaker 11 (50:55):
John?

Speaker 2 (50:55):
What are you doing? John? I stared at her with
a blank look in my face. She noticed the knife
in the phone and yelled out, what the fuck are
you doing? She yelled for my mom, mommy, mommy. Tina
started to get off the couch and I violently pushed
her down. Tina, if you get up again, I'll put

(51:16):
you through the fucking wall.

Speaker 11 (51:18):
Well that's nice.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yeah, I looked her dead in the eye. Now you
rob your own mother at gunpoint with a loaded fucking
gun and threaten her life. My fucking mother, by the way,
his mother's had like what ten kids with six different
Tina began to cry, what are you gonna do with
that knife job? I shook my head and told her
I love you, Tina, and then I took the knife

(51:42):
and sliced my left forearm open in three places, but
splattered everywhere, including all over Tina's face, and she screamed
and share horror. I dialed nine one one. My sister's
high and she's attacked me with a knife. I told
them to send the police in paramedics.

Speaker 11 (52:00):
Now correct me if I'm wrong. You had a career
law enforcement right, and in your opinion, professional opinion, if
someone were that much of a danger to themselves and
or to others, isn't there a mechanism to go to court?

Speaker 12 (52:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (52:18):
I don't know. What it is in that state. But
it's a section thirty five I and you've helped me
with this because you have experienced. We never found any
address where John or his family member lived in Highland Park.
They lived in Hazel Park. And his sister currently has
outstanding bills and outstanding leans to the amount of six

(52:41):
or eight thousand dollars. So why isn't John the gazillionaire
asbestos attorney, if he quote loves his sister like he
says he does.

Speaker 11 (52:49):
Why isn't he helping her now?

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Why doesn't he pay those bills for her?

Speaker 12 (52:51):
Right?

Speaker 2 (52:52):
And then this is this is what made me so
upset about the mass top is think about how many
police officers are in the state of Massachusetts. I mean,
there's at least twenty three hundred state troopers alone. That's
a lot of votes. Yeah, and then you take every
single town in the state of Massachusetts and figure out

(53:13):
how many police officers are there. Wouldn't you try to
court that vote?

Speaker 11 (53:16):
I would think so.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
John Daton in twenty seventeen attended with his girlfriend hit
her sons, So his girlfriend's sons football game or a
football game that the whole family was at. John Deaton
ended up allegedly grabbing the throat of his girl's ex

(53:39):
husband at this football game. All right, and if you
read the lawsuit, it's pathetic because even you know, any attorney,
if you have a class of four hundred, the guy
who or girl who graduated four hundred is still an attorney. Okay,
So don't think that they're always smarter than you. They
may know where to find answers. But so John Deaton

(54:02):
and his infinite wisdom decides to sue Barrington Rhode Island
Police Department and get this for loss of reputation. Now
here's a guy who just wrote a book. Seriously, and
you know what's what's encapsulated in his book. I mean
it's sheer criminality, it absolutely and I'm wondering how.

Speaker 11 (54:21):
He admits to it all. I don't mean to interruption,
no good, he admits to it all. So how has
this person come this far in his career? Be it
personal professional that the GOP is supporting this person for office?
When in his own memoir, which we just must assume

(54:41):
that it's true, he goes through everything that he's done
and he admits that he was selling drugs. He admits that, oh,
and he says he was.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Selling drugs to get his mother food stamps. That's not
how it works. No, I was raised by a single
mother on food stamps and lived in the city. You
get food stamps when you're freaking poor. You don't sell
drugs to get food stamps. I use when I was
undercovern A products, I tried to buy drugs with the
food stamps.

Speaker 11 (55:13):
Yeah, that maybe that's what he means, is that the
people had food stamps and he was trying to like
take the food stamps to give to his mother. But
I'm selling drugs.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
I don't know, I don't I don't know.

Speaker 11 (55:23):
He claims that there was a drive by and one
of his friends got shot, so he took his friend's
gun and proceeded to shoot through the back window of
the vehicle. That how many people are going to allow
you to take their gun?

Speaker 2 (55:41):
And and if he shot the back window, that's gonna
happen in a split second, okay, because if you're driving
away from a scene, you're you're driving fast, right, And
so he had the wherewithal to say to his friend, like, dude,
give me your gun. Someone better shot than you, and
he shot out the back window. And doesn't know if
he killed.

Speaker 11 (55:59):
He doesn't know if he killed anybody because he doesn't
know if the person like leaned over to duck the
bullet at the speed of light, like Superman or Batman
or somebody.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
This makes me really scared that this is who the
jepe he picked.

Speaker 11 (56:12):
Yeah, it's insane, but I digress. According to I just
want to read you guys a couple of little things
from his own memoir. Like I said, and he says,
although I lied to the cops, I wasn't under oath
and I would never testify against my sister for something
she didn't do. My brother Todd, however, didn't follow my instructions.

(56:37):
Unknownst to me, he cracked the kitchen door and watched
it all happen. I'm just I'm like flabbergacid by even
reading this and thinking his.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Brother was in the air force.

Speaker 11 (56:50):
You know, that's even worse. I can't even I don't
have any words to say. What this a This affects
me like mentally and whatnot because myself and I know
there's other people as well, my age and much younger,
because it's going to be their world. I don't understand

(57:11):
how this is what we've come to that this is
what we accept in the Republican Party or even any
party anywhere anywhere actually got that, and there's never any accountability.
Why why is there never accountability?

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Because I think people don't know and they don't do backgrounds,
and that's why, you know, Diane and I are committed
to giving people information right and they can do with
it what they want. You know, there's a state Senate
election every two years, so if if the candidate that

(57:45):
you like, whatever it doesn't get in this year, then
you have two years. I don't agree. I think it's
too short a term because you're always raising money.

Speaker 11 (57:53):
You're just learning about that position too.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Yeah, and you're just you're you're campaigning all the time.
And one of the things I hated about campaigning was
asking for money. And you have to get really comfortable
with asking for money. And when you have grown up
and earned everything that you have and nothing was ever
given to you, it's really hard to ask for money.

(58:16):
But you're not a politician if you're not asking for money.
So you know, what I said to Matt was I
wish I didn't know what I know, right, But when
I know people that are running, I just hope that
they're not. They don't get corrupted, right, I don't think
like Sweezy ran a one his primary and he said,

(58:42):
I'm looking forward to a very long political career. I
don't think you should be.

Speaker 11 (58:47):
No, No, it shouldn't be. It shouldn't be determined that
like once you're elected, like that's it.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Well, because that's where everybody, that's where all the donors,
they give all their money to incumbents, no matter who
they are. These corporations don't care Democrat or Republican or whatever.
But did you have more to read? I did take
away from the No.

Speaker 11 (59:09):
There's just so much that goes on with this person,
John Deaton. But I do want to touch base again
and add a little more to it. That was writing
his memoir, He says, Plus, I was a federal prosecutor
and the only other witness was a drug addict with
multiple felonies under her belt.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Now, let me just interrupt that that is extremely significant
to me because if you compare that statement with the
twenty seventeen police report of John Daton being arrested in Barrington,
Rhode Island, who is suing because his quote reputation was damaged.
He is. He alleges in that same arrest in twenty

(59:50):
seventeen that the guy that he likely touched the throat
area of he because how many people have you ever
touched that throat in that area? I mean that's a
very protected area. I mean if someone comes and pokes
you or grabs you by the neck and throat area,
I'm sorry, they are a predator. Yes, And his excuse

(01:00:13):
for that was I may have likely touched So that's
a non lie, you know for a lawyer, I may
have likely touched his throat and neck area. Well, when
you're pushing someone, do you ever really touch their neck
and throat area? Likely? No, you push them on the
chest or you grab their arms. First of all, why
are you putting your hands on someone at a fible game?

(01:00:35):
Tell a guy the fuck off and be gone and
soe I'll deal with you later. But no, he took
it one step further and said, well, this guy has
a he has a warrant, so he's a scumbag. So
anybody who's well, you know, he is an attorney, so
I'm sure he has access to So.

Speaker 11 (01:00:51):
Do we think that he abused his don't?

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
I don't know that. So I don't want to speculate
on that, but the only way that he could know
that there's a warrant would be to use his attorney
access in Massachusetts to determine that there was actually a warrant.
So you know, that's something for the Massachusetts Board a
bar overseers to look into because this was a Rhode
Island case. I'm sure that they don't know, but you

(01:01:15):
know it. And we don't know what other admissions John
Deaton has made. But two admissions, you know, an admission
that he said, no one's going to believe the drug
addicts sister, so he stabbed himself. And then the admission that, well,
this guy has a warrant, so that should somehow lessen
his credibility because John's an attorney and this other guy

(01:01:36):
has a warrant. But I'm sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 11 (01:01:40):
And so he goes on to say that as a
federal prosecutor living in Arizona, I knew that the State
of Michigan would not subpoena meine to testify. I knew
without my testimony, the State of Michigan would have to
eventually drop the charges. He goes on to say, although

(01:02:00):
I lied to the cops, I wasn't under oath. He continues, like.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Like does that make it any better? Because if you're
lying to a police officer, you're filing a false report
and that is a crime. That's a crime. So he admits.
He even says like, basically, I knew I was lying,

(01:02:28):
but because I wasn't under oath, it doesn't matter. Well,
what else have you lied about? John? Right, You're not
under oath? So are you saying that the only time
you need to be truthful is when you're under oath?

Speaker 11 (01:02:40):
So you just can hop skip along you're getting the
activities and just lie to everybody because you're not under oath.
How does that work?

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Well, I mean he's got all kinds of money. He
walked into Massachusetts and handed Amy CARNIVALI and her minions money,
which I'm sure they all accepted, and sure they all
passed out stickers. And Jilen Deeton's a great guy for
the fact that he framed somebody for crime that they
didn't commit and they went to prison and lost there.

Speaker 11 (01:03:08):
I think I think I've gotten like five mailings from
his campaign, even though I'm not in his area for
his for him seeking office, but he has money to waste,
and that's what the GOP is coming on, like they
just took his money. They didn't care anything about what

(01:03:30):
he represents, what he's done, and not only that, vetting
there was nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
They didn't care enough to present the voters with a
respectable candidate. You know Howie declared him quote the winner,
you know, and this goes back to you know, what
I was saying about the Republican Party is so you're
not going to give Ian Kane a look because he

(01:03:56):
said that he wasn't going to support Trump did, which
is everybody's prerogative. But instead, you're going to support candidate
that isn't qualified or isn't ready, and that that doesn't
mean that they won't be ready another time, right, but
at the moment, at the moment, they are not ready.

(01:04:16):
So instead of the master GOP looking at all candidates neutrally,
they chose Eaton because he has money. And that's what
this is about. And that's why when I was you know,
think about roundred percent and I was totally I had
to raise six hundred thousand dollars. That's insane. Well, I mean,
whether it is or it isn't, what it means is

(01:04:38):
you need to pay me. And that's how these political
operatives work. And it appears that they're paid to lose campaigns.

Speaker 13 (01:04:50):
What does is it just me maybe that thinks that
when I go to vote, I'm not I feel like
I'm voting for what I believe is is going to
be the best policy for But here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
We don't know what these people's policies are. We don't
because they're so you know, like for example, I'll take
when I ran, I had a platform that I ran
on and then my opponent stole my platform, is right,
and it's just like Kamala's. So Kamala is now saying
we need to close the no tax on tips and whatever,

(01:05:26):
so to try to make themselves more like the other person,
you know, which that person would never could never be,
that man could never walk on my shoes. But this
is the person we're going to put deeton and people
are falling in line, and I and I and I
don't want to be the bearer of bad news. But

(01:05:46):
like the Hangar Republicans, someone said to me, like, do
you really think he's worse than Elizabeth Warren? Is that
our goal to be? Who's is? Are they worse than
Elizabeth Warren. Wow, how about they're the worst of all
the candidates. He's the worst of all the Republican candidates
in aggregate absolutely because he lies, he cheats, he steals,

(01:06:09):
he's admitted to criminality. He is admitting to defacing and
military property, which is his body, is hisself. Yeah, I mean,
what would happen if you were active duty and you
like started cutting yourself. I mean you would be sectioned
absolutely in about five seconds.

Speaker 11 (01:06:27):
Even people with eating disorders and what some might think
are like the smallest of issues when you're in the
military are under the spotlight and they're dealt with immediately.
So when you have someone like John Deeton, who had
the privilege of being a.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
United State privilege it is it's a Marine Corps prosecutor
Jack yep. And what I don't understand and I haven't
been able to verify this yet and probably won't buy
the election, but so he allegedly put himself through private
high school and he's watching fifteen. Okay, he went to college,

(01:07:07):
had testicular cancer, and listen, I have friends who had cancer.
They are not going to college. No, and no, there's
no way, Okay, not at the moment, and then he
went on to have children.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
So in my limited perspective of people that I know
with testicular cancer, they had to save their sperm, correct,
because when you have radiation treatments and cancer treatments or
spro coun so you know again, you know, I don't
want to take anything away from him if he is
a cancer survivor. But it's just everything he says is

(01:07:44):
so hyperbolic, and people are.

Speaker 11 (01:07:46):
Like, yeah, he was underdog, and like, no, he's not
the underdogs.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Not he's the scary dog.

Speaker 11 (01:07:57):
He is very scary because the lurk.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
In the shadows kind of controlled state operatives that we
want to stay away from. Yeah, when you admit to
criminality as an attorney, how does that play with the
Supreme Court of Rhode Island or Massachusetts?

Speaker 11 (01:08:21):
The zero accountability that we see now in our government,
and then you look at him as a candidate and
see clearly he has zero accountability. And it makes you
wonder why the RNC is actually supporting him, because I
don't understand it, and maybe I'm naive, but I just

(01:08:42):
don't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Well, in my opinion, it's because he had money, that's
the only reason. But Are we to judge someone only
by the money that they come with? Is that not
you know, lack of diversity. I hate to use that word,
but you know, do we want someone with criminality, unknown

(01:09:08):
criminal to be in office? I know, I don't think so.
And I think the people that support that or who
don't question that, or you know, I think it's really
healthy to question people about things. And we've questioned crystals
on who's a state Senate candidate, will question his his

(01:09:30):
self submission that he made twenty to forty thousand dollars
working for his parents, right, I mean, and.

Speaker 11 (01:09:38):
We providing for his kids four or five?

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Four? I believe, you know, it doesn't really matter. But
two are his wife's from my previous marriage, and they
have two children together, and God bless him, and God
bless him for taking, you know, taking care of those
kids if he does. But you can't survive on the
cave for forty thousand dollars a year. So I questioned that,
and I questioned that because of the same things that

(01:10:04):
I said to Matt Martre is do we just accept
any Republican No?

Speaker 11 (01:10:12):
Well, I know, I don't. Just well, I mean, but
I don't. I don't think the whole. What I've seen
is people are saying I'm not gonna vote for on
any side of Republicanism for lack of a better phrase,
but just because they don't like Trump. You're not voting
because you like or dislike the person. You should be

(01:10:34):
voting on what you believe in and what you think
that they believe in at that point in time.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
But even when I asked the candidates, like what policy
do you like or disagree with?

Speaker 11 (01:10:46):
They couldn't answer.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
The supporters or the detractors, like, no one could answer that.
And and that's where we get into this like kind
of low information. And New Gingrich wrote this book that
I that I read probably five years ago so and
it's called The Dumbest Generation and you know, encouraging yeah
new Gingerish, Yeah, you know, I mean say it like

(01:11:10):
it is. But there has been kind of a dumbing
down of you know, I mean, look at when we text.
We text like are you know our letter? Are you awake?
Question mark? I mean.

Speaker 11 (01:11:26):
That's so funny because I find myself doing that all
the time, just for my kids and trying to make
things quick and abbreviated. But then when I have to
send like a professional email, and I find myself typing are.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
You or a like, how about when you w dictate
something and it comes out wrong on your voice of
activated phone. I think I sent one of those to
a boss that I had in the state place, and
thank god he was understanding, understanding, but as funny because

(01:12:00):
he had sent me something the week before and at
that point, I don't know what was going on with
the Apple phones, but if you hit a certain button,
it would like scroll, like love you, like some weird shit, right,
And he sent me that, Oh no, and I was like,
oh shit, And I was upset because he knew that
I filed the lawsuit against my boss. But my boss

(01:12:23):
talked about his flaccid or rect pedis and and you're
all sexual escapades, So I mean, who would lie about that?
I mean the trial in December. But I felt bad
for him because he was such such a good guy.
I knew exactly what happened to him because it had
happened to me before. And I was like, no problem,

(01:12:43):
you're good. It's all good. You know, it's no no,
no worries. So so I don't know how we get
you know this, this Trump has been great and he's
been divisive at at the same time because there really
is a thing called Trump derangement syndrome. It really is true,

(01:13:07):
and you can support the policies without supporting the person.
And you know, and I think, you know, going back
to like Ian Kane, everything he said in our interview
really supported the mainstream conservative ideology, and the other two

(01:13:28):
candidates were just like, yeah, I'm an American first candidate,
but didn't explain what that was taken anything away from
them because listen, I didn't know anything about anything when
I ran. I you know, I thought I knew and
I depended on fellow police officers who you know, Xaros
and Whalen both really kind of worked against me for

(01:13:51):
whatever reason that was, and they found it. I like, quote, yes, candidate,
and that is why we need to question candidates. It's
not to embarrass them. It's not to but you asked
to be put on the spot, correct, you know, Like
I ran because I don't have anything to hide. You know,

(01:14:12):
I've never cheated on my husband, I have three kids.
I didn't get married till I was thirty six. I
was a police officer. I never put my finger on
the scale. The only thing I ever had was, you know,
a law of super sexual harassment. But what what people
see is a flash and a smile and nothing else,

(01:14:33):
and they go with that.

Speaker 11 (01:14:36):
That's it's so hard to I think, and it's my opinion,
and maybe you're opinion, but it's so hard to know
who you can trust and when and what the circumstances are.
You just look into their background, correct, But I think
that now, at least from what I've seen recently, is

(01:14:57):
there really is no looking into backgrounds, and if there is,
it's turning a blind eye to what the background actually
tells them. Yeah, so they're seeing the truth, they're reading
the truth, they're witnessing the truth, but they still refuse
to believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
Well of that, it's like the elected, the elected Republicans
that I dealt with. I remember one female specifically told me,
the voters don't care if that person got a free
house or a job from their family. They don't care
if they failed everywhere else. And you know what, she

(01:15:35):
was right because they never asked about it, they never
investigated it. They don't look into family dealings. So really
it's it's all a mirage. It's like smoke and mirrors,
like the state police. You know, we only care about
our image and not the substance. We only we want

(01:15:59):
people that we can control. And I don't think that's
what we want in Massachusetts. Like I hope that we
court unions because when you think of all the unions
that are donating to Democrats, they have hardlines donated to Democrats.

(01:16:20):
But if you could rally all the police, vote, all
the fire vote, all the nurses who see the death
and destruction and harm. I mean, when one person gets
killed by an illegal alien or a drunk driver or whatever,
the whole family and community suffers. Yet we keep allowing

(01:16:42):
these people in, we keep giving them housing.

Speaker 11 (01:16:45):
How about the schools. The schools now are dealing with
all of that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
It is so sad.

Speaker 11 (01:16:50):
And I saw something recently that said that a lot
of these schools were blindsided by the immigrant or not
immorg an illegal persons that have entered our country and
they've been placed in shelters, they've been given free housing
and food and everything else. They have children, and it

(01:17:11):
is not their children's fault that they're put in this position.
But now the schools are put in a position where
they didn't know that they were getting all of these
extra students every year, so they don't have the funds
to support it. And then you have, at least in Massachusetts,
you have the Healey administration announcing a two million dollar

(01:17:34):
increase in their federal budgeting for these illegal immigrants.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
Well, you know, I want to say that we in
our I believe it's a Massachusetts constitution. I could be wrong,
but we do have an obligation to educate people. And
I understand that, like you don't want people coming to
this country and not be educated. But when that was written,

(01:18:03):
the rules were different. I mean, you were sponsored to
come into this country or you you stayed with a
family and you learned English and you you acclimated to
That's not the right word acclimated you you became part
of the culture. I don't know the word I'm looking for.
But you know, now you have the second generation that

(01:18:26):
still doesn't speak English. And you know, I personally, I
spent the summer in Germany. I couldn't imagine living there
anymore if I didn't speak the language.

Speaker 6 (01:18:35):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
I mean, first of all, your thumb is one which
I totally didn't know. In your index fingers too, So
I would go to a bakery every morning, and I
would put up like a single finger like and I
would point to what I wanted, and they always gave
me two. And I thought I just liked me until
you know, it was a boyfriend at the time that
I was visiting, until you told me that this is

(01:18:55):
you know, their thumb is one and your endus swingers too,
And then I knew that they just thought I was stupid.
You know, I was like, I had all these like
I hope it was really good, but you know, you
can only eat so many German So as far as
unity goes, it's really hard to unify people who have

(01:19:19):
negative feelings and negative actions towards another person or group.
And those are the fractions that that I see in Massachusetts.
It's you know, it's the Trump supporters, the never Trumpers,
and the middle that's kind of like, well, I don't

(01:19:39):
like either one. Well, in some sense, I believe you
have a duty to choose, like for a president, I
believe you should you should vote. So I kind of
disagree with the congressional candidates that said that they wouldn't
vote either way. But at the same time, and there's

(01:20:00):
been times where I didn't want to vote for a
Republican because I knew what they were right. So do
we just do la the Democrats do and vote straight
down the party line, no matter the person like, no
matter how grotesque their actions may have been.

Speaker 11 (01:20:20):
There's just so much at stake. But I think, and
you can say the same thing, like you have kids
that are younger. My kids are a little bit older
than yours. And right now I know a lot of
the the kids that are like I call them kids,
but they're not really kids like that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
I know. It made twenty.

Speaker 11 (01:20:37):
Somethings they don't even feel secure enough. Even though they
have great jobs with unions and chances for advancement and
all of those things. They don't even feel secure enough
that they can buy a house in this country, never
mind in the state. The twenty somethings that I I

(01:21:00):
know don't want to be in the state anymore. And
that's sad to me.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
That is very sad, because what's going to be left?

Speaker 11 (01:21:06):
Right? And I grew up in the city one hundred
years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
Where did you grow up in the city? Oh no,
kidding the river, Well that's a different city than East Boston.

Speaker 11 (01:21:21):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
We never interact with anybody from Barbia right now. I
didn't even know where now.

Speaker 11 (01:21:26):
I left there, and I swore that I would never
go back. The only reason I did go back here
and there was because my grandparents still live there and
they basically brought me up so I would spend time
with them. But beyond that, I never wanted to go back.
So I can't even imagine now, like when my own

(01:21:46):
children say there's nothing to do on the cave, I
hate the state. I hate this.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
I hate that there's never really been anything to do
on the cave for kids. So I get that par
I do too.

Speaker 11 (01:21:57):
But then when I when we happen to have been
on road, whether it was looking at colleges or whatnot,
and we would drive through some different cities, and I'm like, soul,
do you want to live in a city? And so
they could see what there actually was, at least on
the visual side of things, not knowing right the intricacies

(01:22:19):
of it, but data I could never go back to
the city, could do no never.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
I don't think I could never even if I had
a penthouse on the water overlooking with Butler. I just
I you know, I get irritated drive in to the airport.
I you know, I grew up in a triple decker
with a single mother, and I couldn't imagine, you know,

(01:22:48):
trying to shovel a parking spot and put my chair
in it.

Speaker 11 (01:22:51):
I know.

Speaker 14 (01:22:52):
And you see that, like even driving down from the capes,
New Bedford and whatnot, you drive down some of these
streets and there it's like all these chairs on the street,
or like.

Speaker 11 (01:23:03):
Trash cans or something. And when you ask, like what
the heck, they're like, oh, that's to save their space.
So when the plows come they don't follow them in.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
Oh no, only that, but people will fight you for
a parkas.

Speaker 11 (01:23:14):
Yeah, And I'm like, no, me, I'm like, that'd be
the day. I'm like, he put a chair and I thought,
like that thing.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
The funniest thing I ever heard was you know how
Saint Patrick's Day they have the Saint Patricks Day whatever
it's called, like, yeah, no, no, no, the breakfast and
Congressman Stephen Lynch was telling a story and he lived.
I used to stay at a friend's place, Sue, thank
you for letting me stay at your place in Sealthie

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when I was the station commander of South Boston. And
it was great because she had a parking spot, and
nobody else has a parking spot. So Congressman Lynch, at
one of these Patriots Day celebration breakfasts or whatever, they
all get up and they kind of roast each other.
So he said, you know, I was down there shovel
in my spot, and my wife yelled out the third

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story of the triple decker that they lived on, which
was just up the street from where I was in,
which was like G and I. It was at the
top of Gen seventh. So he says, his wife yells down,
staate An, you're in Congress, Now, what are you doing
with that ugly lawn furniture? Put out the good kid furniture.

Speaker 11 (01:24:28):
So you know, how are you judged? Like you know,
of course it's right, But where's our judgment?

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
Now, where's our morality? Where's our ethics? Like I understand
it's politics, okay, but at what point are you I mean,
look at Ed Kennedy got elected. Okay, I'm sure he
went to his grave sad about what he did. Hopefully
but he but he persevered or whatever. But the master

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up putting forced someone who is an admitted criminal and
broke the law as an attorney. I'm sorry, Like that
breaks my heart. And that's kind of where I draw
the line. And that's where I think that we get
into I don't know, Rick, what you would call it
communism or dictatorship or we're actually putting forth criminals.

Speaker 11 (01:25:21):
How do we get to that point?

Speaker 9 (01:25:23):
I people are retarded. That's how we got to that point.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
Yeah, what is it? Rick? I mean, you know, like
we would tell the truth on our Facebook page double
D and censored Diana and I and people would get mad.
I'm like, it's a fact, and I posted the fact,
like why are you mad about the fact?

Speaker 9 (01:25:43):
Because people don't care about facts anymore. That started changing,
I would say probably eight or nine years ago when
people started adding the word may to the word truth.
Because all that did was up jump an opinion to
a validated fact, even though it was nothing but emotion.
So now your truth is what takes precedent. So when
you start trying to tell people actual truth, well, I
don't like that because hur's my feelings.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
I mean, I go, I.

Speaker 9 (01:26:07):
Go through it all the time. I'm like, and and
this is something because I know people that are just
diametrically opposed to Trump, and I know some people that
are diametrically opposed to Trump because they don't like his
handling of COVID and they had family members that got sick,
family members that got passed away. I'm not gonna down
I'm not gonna downplay any of that or tell them
how they should vote, et cetera. But I will say
for all the people that there's like, I just can't

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vote for him because he's mean. If we can't go
together to agree to get rid of the comedies in
this country, then we don't deserve to have a country anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Well, our founding father said, you know, enjoy your freedom
while you have it.

Speaker 9 (01:26:45):
No, I mean Ben Franklin said something very similar as
he was leaving the the constitutional signing, and he's someone
asked him, what have you given us today, sir, A republic, madam,
if you can.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
Keep it exactly exactly.

Speaker 9 (01:27:00):
And I mean our founding fathers, if you look at
their if you look at their writings and their papers,
they honestly expected this experiment to last maybe fifty seventy
five years tops. And unfortunately they weren't very far off
because it was fundamentally changed after the Civil War, and
it hasn't been the same since well.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
I've been reading the Federalist papers. I don't know if
you've read any of them, all of Yeah, and I
got the big print because then I can sit in
my son up with all my glasses and read the
big print without sweating all over my glasses. And I
find it amazing that people who didn't have, you know,

(01:27:40):
the and you know, shame on me for judging someone's
intellect on their surroundings. But I mean, they didn't have toilets,
and they were so astute, and they they thought of
all the different ways that we could possibly lose our
freedom and tried their best to ameliorate those with you know,

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how they set up the government. But they also had
the foresight to know that they would be corruption.

Speaker 9 (01:28:15):
Well, I mean that's the thing. They always knew that
there was a chance that things could go sideways. That's
why the Second Amendment was created in the first place.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
And people don't understand that. They won't argue about whether
they're a militia or not. No, it's to protect yourself
from an encroaching government.

Speaker 9 (01:28:31):
Well that's because nobody understands that when the Second Amendment
was written, well regulated simply meant in proper working order right,
So everybody likes to think about regulations the day we
view them today and they're like, well it it says
right there, and you have to be part of a
well regulated militia to be able to own weapons. In
colonial times, anybody that was male, of sound mind, of

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sound body, and above the age of sixteen was already
a part of a militia if they owned a weapon.
It was pretty much just that simple. Actually, they don't
even think it was sixteen. I think of reserve. I
think the age was thirteen to fourteen. But that meant
everybody that was of a township that was able to
be was enable, bodied of sound mind, had access to
a weapon, and was old enough was automatically a member

(01:29:15):
of the militia because we didn't have an organized military.
So one of the things that started changing when we've
got an organized military was this idea that well, now
that we have an organized military, we don't need a militia.
And no, I'm sorry you're wrong, because one I still
believe that everybody of a certain age that is of
sound mind and sound body, who has access to a
weapon should be able to use that weapon to not

(01:29:38):
only defend themselves, their family, their neighbors, their friends, but
defend themselves from Joe Biden or even in this case
Kamala Harris, because I'm sorry if you think we need
an F fifteen to beat the government, the Taliban is
laughing at you.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
Right. So have you ever read Thomas Paine's Common Sense?

Speaker 9 (01:29:58):
Yes, is actually required reading for a group that I
used to be part of.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
I think it's such a great document because he talks
about society and how it's produced by our wants in government,
by our wickedness, and in that society promotes our happiness,
where government negative, negatively restrained, restrains our vices or you know,

(01:30:25):
whatever negative thing you are, and the one encourages social
intercourse and the other creates distinctions. But the government ends
up being a punisher. And you know, in one of
his writings he says, society in every state is a blessing,

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but government, even in its best state, is but a
necessary evil, and in its worst state, an intolerable and
intolerable one. For when we suffer or are exposed to
the same miseries by a government which we might expect
in the country without a government, our calamity is heightened
by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer.

(01:31:09):
So right now we're suffering from an influx of illegals,
which is one of the reasons why you know, we've
tried to form this new government, is because we don't
want interlobras interfering in our society, in our elections. And

(01:31:30):
you know who is to be held responsible for that, well.

Speaker 9 (01:31:35):
I mean, you can simply, you can simplify it just
a little bit more. I mean, you're on the right track.
But the main reason why we founded the government that
we founded and went the war with England is because
we decided we were tired of people thousands of miles
away from us telling us how we could live our lives,
which is pretty much the same thing that we're facing now.
I mean, we have now a centralized government which is

(01:31:55):
much bigger than the Founding Fathers ever intended, that has
more control than the Founding Fathers ever intended, and they've
centralized everything to the point where when the Constitution was written,
we had what was called a general government and it
basically existed for three common purposes. Now they control almost everything,
so our issues and our complaints and our grips and
the things that are making us more and more angry

(01:32:17):
every day. Are we now have two halves of the
same coin within the same continent, and we have half
the country that just says we want to be left alone,
and we have the other half of the country saying, please, government,
please be our mommy and our daddy. And we don't
want that. And that is why I have, as much
as I have fought the idea, as hard as I
have fought against the idea, I firmly believe we are

(01:32:39):
headed towards a national divorce.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
And what do you mean by that? Like, you don't
mean a national like a civil war, but you mean
a divorce. So explain that because divorce.

Speaker 9 (01:32:50):
Well, the issue is the national divorce could happen one
of two ways. We can either agree that we can
no longer cohabitate or cooperate with these people, and basically
we start divvying up things and they get some and
we get some.

Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
That's divorce. That's divorce, that's national divorce.

Speaker 9 (01:33:11):
Or at some point we probably will have some form
of a civil war again, because we now have two
completely anathetical ideologies in the same place at the same time,
and those two things cannot remain in the same place
at the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
Well, how about this, Like the sole purpose I believe
a government is to protect the citizen's safety. We're not
protecting the citizen's safety by importing illegal aliens and we
don't know who they are. If we want to quote diversity,
like we said, we could use the diversity visas. There's
a fifty five thousand diversity visas issued every year in

(01:33:43):
the United States, and that's for someone who has a
skill like their mason or they sidewall or or there
whatever they're skilled in given MRIs whatever it is, or
they have a four year degree and experience. So this
wasn't about diversity, no, I mean, this was an invasion.

Speaker 9 (01:34:06):
So here's the problem. And this is one of the
reasons why I firmly feel that we are at some
point headed towards the national divorce. In one way or
the other. You say words that mean a certain thing
to you, but the other side doesn't view them that way.
Like you are saying things like the government should only
exist to keep its citizen re safe. But the leftists

(01:34:29):
believe that the things that they are pushing for do
in fact keep the citizen resafe because it gives people
that think they're born in the wrong bodies, the ability
to experience life the right way. They believe that people
should have the ability to love whoever they love, regardless
of consequences, which nobody wants to talk about. What a
slippery slope that is, because you notice they don't bring

(01:34:50):
age up at all in that equation anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:34:52):
Well, I think they purposely don't bring up age. In
a Massachusetts we get a state senator that actually made
best Reality illegal. Seriously, so we called the state House
and asked them, like, is this bill about beastiality. They're like, oh, well,
we don't see that. I'm like, well, when you see
animals in sexual activity in the same paragraph, like, why

(01:35:14):
are we trying to purposely degrade? And we are because
I see it in my kids. I have arguments with
my kids. I'll be driving somewhere. I was in CBS
and this kid looked like a girl, and I swear
it was a girl until he spoke and his name
was like an androgynous name, like my daughter's name is Kyle,
but she's definitely a girl one hundred percent through. And

(01:35:35):
I said to this kid, well, you look just like
and I pointed to the People magazine you could be
that girl's sister. He was like, dude, dude, and only left.
My kid was like, why do you have to do that?
Like he's still like seriously, like not talking to me.

Speaker 11 (01:35:48):
Now, Like why did you have to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
I'm like, I didn't know. I thought it was a girl.
She's like, didn't you see his name tag was like
Duncan or something. I'm like, your sister's name is Kyle. Like,
I'm sorry, Like it's weird to me. I don't have
any ill will towards anyone that feels like they're in
the wrong body or whatever. But I just don't think

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we should change our whole national policy.

Speaker 9 (01:36:14):
No. I mean, well, that's the thing we because we
have been of the mind that all we want to
do is get along with these people. For so long,
we've been the ones giving and giving and giving and giving,
to the point where now the second we finally say
we're not willing to go any further, well, you're just
not willing to work with us anymore. No, you've pushed
us too far. It's not about not wanting to work

(01:36:35):
with you anymore. It's about time and time again when
we have tried to work with you. You get everything you want.
We get nothing. I mean, you can go back as
far as Reagan. In eighty four, Reagan signed amnesty because
he was promised by the Democrats if he cleared the decks,
they would finally reform immigration so that we could have
a working system that wasn't being manipulated all the time.

(01:36:56):
And he cleared the decks, and they didn't do it anyway.
This is why we've started to have such animus because
up until then, even Reagan said and talking about Tipper
Gore was like, hey, you know, we may go at
each other from eight to five, but after five o'clock,
if we want to go have a beer, we're fine
with that. And everybody was cool with that back then.
But the problem is you can't do that anymore because
these everybody has become so ideologically charged to a point,

(01:37:20):
and it's because both sides have gotten to the point
where they think they're the only ones that are right.
And it's one of the things that used to drive
me crazy because I started doing this a long time ago.
A lot of people don't know, but I started doing
this in two thousand and nine, shortly after was right
before a Whama got sworn in, the economy was already
killing my business. I had to go to work somewhere
that I didn't want to go to work for. So

(01:37:41):
I started venting on Facebook, and then eventually it turned
in everything that it is now. But the thing about
it is all the way back then, I kept trying
to convince everybody, Look, there's about seven or eight issues
that if we could just put those aside for five minutes,
we could agree on about eighty five percent of the
things that are making this country horrible right now. Nobody
wanted to do that. Still to this day, nobody wants

(01:38:03):
to do it. That's just like Donald Trump did something
that the anti abortion crowd has said they've wanted done
for as long as I've been alive, which is to
get abortion back to the States. Now they're pushing the
issue that they want a national band. That's not what
they talked about. That's not what they've ever talked about.
But now that they got the ground that they wanted,
now they want the government to do the hard work

(01:38:23):
for them, instead of taking the battle back to the
states and actually making the changes where it could and
should matter. If we can make the changes at the
state level to teach kids why abortions should be a definite,
only ever last resort, because even me being one hundred
percent pro life, doesn't believe that it shouldn't ever happen.
It should just be very very rare. It shouldn't be

(01:38:46):
this thing where well.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
I think, wasn't it wasn't it rare? Safe? And the
third legal and rare right? And I remember that James Madison.
James Madison wrote in framing then, which is to be
administered by men over men? The great difficulty lies in this.
You must first enable the government to control the governed,

(01:39:08):
and in the next place oblige it to control itself. Well,
they haven't controlled themselves.

Speaker 9 (01:39:14):
No, all they've done is fa And this is why
I blame both parties, because what happened is during the
Civil War we had our first ever actual national income tax.
They passed it because it was the only way to
get it refunded. It was temporary, they had to vote
to keep it. Eventually they repealed it. So shortly after
that that was repealed. Every two years, the new Democratic

(01:39:35):
crowd would come to the new Republican crowd and say,
we need that progressive income tax back, we need it back.
We need it back, we need it back. Well, it
was just like the old cartoon with Spike and the
little dog. Eventually the little dog finally and Spike just
as fine, let's go to it. So that's what they did.
They were like, look, okay, this is what we'll do.
We'll put it to a vote of the people. If

(01:39:55):
they if they amended as an amendment to the Constitution,
then you're going to get what you and everybody needs
to remember that how the Democrats sold that is the
same way they sell it. Now. This is only going
to be the top. This is only going to be
for the top one percent of the country, and it's
only going to be one percent of their income. And
that's why the Republicans lost the debate nationally because everybody

(01:40:18):
kept pushing it, it's not really going to impact you.
It's only going to impact the rich. It's not really
going to impact you. It's only going to impact the rich.
So thirty one percent of the state said, it's not
going to hurt us. Let's do it.

Speaker 12 (01:40:28):
Now.

Speaker 9 (01:40:29):
Look at where we are.

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
Do you believe in the trickle down system?

Speaker 9 (01:40:32):
I do because it worked.

Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
Yep. Because there's a lot there's some Democrats, as we
can do that to run for Congress. That like, the
system used to be a trickle down system, but now
the money is held in the hands of a few families,
and so it's not necessarily a trickle down theory. But

(01:40:57):
you know, I believe it's all a trickle down theory.
I mean if first of all, nobody what they what
they do to people who don't make a bazillion dollars
a year is make them hate the rich, so it's
easier to tax them. That's one of Olenski's you know
rules for radicals is r right, is to have a

(01:41:20):
class differentiation and say, yeah, America is the land of
opportunity and the land of freedom, and you should be
able to make as much money as you want. But
when you make X amount of dollars, we don't, we
don't like you so.

Speaker 9 (01:41:36):
Well, so so they see that's that's part of the
mindset change. Because I remember even when I was a
kid in you know, mid seventies, there it was, you know,
you would see somebody driving down the road in this
really nice car, and I remember having the conversation with
my dad almost word for word because he could see
it and it was different for me because my dad
used to work in a body shop. He worked with

(01:41:58):
my grandpa, my grandfather. My grandfather actually owned a body
shop when I was a kid. So we were we
were tooling around in a car that they'd worked for
because they had done some work on the engine and
then done some work on the outside. So we were
test driving, driving everything to make sure that it worked.
And it was one of the first times I remember
ever being in a car. And this is probably seventy six,
seventy seven with electric windows. So I'm just sitting there

(01:42:20):
just in the button watching the windows go down and
pushing pulling it back, watching it go up. And my
dad like, you like that, huh? And I was like, yeah,
pretty awesome because I'm used to having a crank on
windows and have the little wing windows in the truck
and everything else. And he's like, well, you know, this
is America. You figure you figure out a way to
do it, and you work hard enough, and eventually you
could have a car with these same kinds of bells

(01:42:40):
and whistles too. But that's not that's not what we
teach our kids anymore. Now you have now you see
the same conversation being played out all over the place,
and it's it's dad and son, or mom and son
or mom and daughter walking down the road and they
see this guy in this big ass limo and son's
got a glint in his eye, and all of a sudden,
the parent looks down with the kid and is like, A,
I don't worry, We'll get them out of that limo

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one of these days, because it's not for them to
have it either.

Speaker 11 (01:43:04):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:43:07):
What's going on in Massachusetts is they used that COVID whatever,
that COVID rule that you didn't have to put bids
through the regular procurement process. So that allowed even more
corruption because our Massachusetts governor gave an unbid document to

(01:43:31):
the friend of a state senator from Cape Islands, a
six million dollar bid to transport illegal aliens from A
to B or wherever the hell they want to go.
I saw this guy today. It broke my heart. He
was mentally challenged. I was at the hospital to pick
up a prescription and I noticed him, and I thought,

(01:43:52):
you know what, don't say anything. He's probably whatever crazy
beings or don't get involved. But then I was at
the red light and I saw him walking, asked me,
and he had holes in his shoes and sweatpants, and
finally I couldn't take it anymore. I was in traffic
for so long. I pulled over and I said to him,
do you need any help? And he goes, I he

(01:44:12):
was definitely challenged mentally. He said, I do this twice
a day. I live on School Street, the third house
on the left. And I said, okay, I just I
saw you and I wanted to see if you needed
any help. He goes, I do this twice a day.
Like he was adamant. He was in a stroller, like
had a walker, he was hunched over, h had sweatpants

(01:44:36):
on with boat shoes with holes in the toes. And
he says he does this twice twice a day. And
I'm thinking, Jesus Christ, like, what's this guy going to
do when it snows? And I was heartbroken that he
was challenged, and that we're given all this money to
illegal aliens, and this guy makes this trek from the
hospital to his house on School Street, which is at

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least a mile twice a day. What are we doing?

Speaker 11 (01:45:06):
I I.

Speaker 9 (01:45:08):
Well, I mean, honestly, that's one of the things that
I have had the most complaints about. If We've got
billions of dollars that we can be sending to places
like the Ukraine where they're basically laundering money for the bidens, right,
And why are we not helping the people that need
help here?

Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
And why are we spending more on like the life
expectancies of paleomneites when the whatever whatever environmental challenges there are,
when we could be given this guy a ride, you know,

(01:45:46):
I mean, this guy is clearly mentally challenged. He's would
I would guess he was forty. He was polite, he
said thank you, I can do it myself. Like, that's
a guy that needs some help. Hit holes in his
shoes and he's wearing sweatpants and a T shirt and
a walker hunched over, and I just felt obligated to

(01:46:12):
stop and be like, I didn't know until I spoke
to him if he was going to be a nut.
And when I spoke to him, he was very polite.
He was obviously mentally challenged and had holes in is shoes.

Speaker 11 (01:46:28):
It's sad what we've come to. Yeah, when you think
of people like that man and all the other people
that you see in this area, like up and down
Main Street, I think every business almost has almost people
in their doorways. Yeah, and they're constantly calling to have
them removed, and so they moved. So the police go

(01:46:49):
out and their hands are kind of tied because I
know the community impact. The unit will try to find
them housing and they'll call all the shelters and they'll
go to the else was with them, but there are
no beds for them. So why are we creating all
this housing for illegal immigrants? Well none of that, like

(01:47:10):
why do we have taken care of our own people?

Speaker 2 (01:47:13):
And that just makes me so sad, Like I mean,
people are people, yes, but where do we draw the line? Rick?

Speaker 9 (01:47:21):
Look here.

Speaker 12 (01:47:24):
I finally made this has been How on earth? What
a day?

Speaker 2 (01:47:31):
Sorry, well we missed you today. We Carrie had a
family emergency that she had to attend to, but Matt
Moratoria was on and basically told us why he did
a commercial with Democrats, you know, And I was saying
that I wonder if the Republican Party and not speaking

(01:47:53):
about Matt moratory but if we can be more accepting
of candidates and making funds more available to them and
not be chosen by just the master up I.

Speaker 12 (01:48:09):
Think, and we've always spoke about that where it should
be up to the voters to decide, not the party.

Speaker 2 (01:48:18):
Yeah, but when they're not promoted, you know, when they're
not when the candidates aren't aren't promoted, or their narrative,
like Ian Kan, their narrative has been set for them
before they even have a chance. I think that we're
disenfranchising voters much like the Unwritten Rule. I think we're

(01:48:39):
in the same place. And Matt mor Tori wants to
say that, you know, Amy Carnivarley and Judy Crocker are
United's you know, I wholeheartedly disagree with that. What's your opinion?

Speaker 12 (01:48:50):
I completely disagree with that. I think they similar to
how the National Party used to be, which I think
has changed since new leadership both like Laura Trump and others.
It's no longer who has the most money. I think
it's more who is appealing more to citizens. I mean,

(01:49:13):
people are now not voting for who has the biggest pocketbook.
They're not voting on what they resonate with and what
they can do for them personally.

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
But I'm kind of pissed that the Masterpiece specifically has
pushed a US Senate candidate that's it has an admitted
criminal task it's appalling and put him forward, and for me,
that diminishes my faith in the mass GOP because why

(01:49:46):
would you back a candidate who's admittedly framed his sister,
stabbed himself while a federal prosecutor, while a Marine Corps attorney.
I mean, it doesn't get more American run blooded than
a US Marine Corps attorney. But then when you add
the fact that he committed a crime and purjured himself
even though he says he wasn't under oath.

Speaker 12 (01:50:08):
Well, ask yourself this when it comes to the mass GOP,
and ask yourself, have they put.

Speaker 2 (01:50:20):
Last two died ricked?

Speaker 12 (01:50:24):
You Ever'll be right back, oh my back. What I
was gonna say. What I was saying is ask yourself
about the mass GOP and the party right now as
it is, and all of the vacant, vacant seats that
they didn't bother to put any candidates forth all over
the state of Massachusetts. I mean, in every single district

(01:50:45):
there are empty seats. No one is running against Democrats period.
They're just literally open. It's like they've rolled over and
given up. And that's not fair to the people out
there that want to run when they don't get the
support that they they should, you know, obviously need. It's
in their hands, you know that. But it's an embarrassment

(01:51:06):
that so many Senate seats and so many House seats
have no one running at all, and then and then
therefore about to do a writing campaign. It's an embarrassment, right,
And we had that situation here for a State Rep.
Jerry O'Connell, who did a write in Canvassy and he's
on the ballot. But then we also have, you know,

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we lost all these seats in twenty twenty two in
Cape Quad of Massachusetts.

Speaker 2 (01:51:30):
We lost the attorney's race, we lost the sheriff's race,
we lost a state rep. Seat. And it's really hard
to recover from that because now we have the person
Susan Morin, who vacated the seat that Matt Mortri and
Karrie McCrea are running for, and she's she's basically a
shoe in for the Clerk of Courts. After we have

(01:51:50):
a Democrat just took Attorney Rob Galliboy, who has lost
thirty five employees since he's been elected. I meant, you're
losing thirty five employees. Man, You screwed up somewhere. You're
you're not a good manager. That means you have never
supervised people before. I mean, imagine if I had thirty
five people that wanted to transfer out of my command.

(01:52:13):
I'm sure that people would would look at me and say, ah,
he's growing up.

Speaker 12 (01:52:18):
No kidding. Right by the way, Rick, I really am
digging this red wine picture.

Speaker 11 (01:52:23):
That you have.

Speaker 12 (01:52:25):
I'm kind of thinking that that might be something we
need to rebrand.

Speaker 11 (01:52:32):
I love it.

Speaker 9 (01:52:35):
You're welcome, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
So I was saying Diane earlier that I discussing with
Rick about how the Republican Party, at least in Massachusetts,
has decided, you know, if you don't support Trump, that
you're not worthy of support, which, you know, I kind
of think that we have to think locally instead of

(01:53:00):
you know, down you know, down ballad from President Trump,
because I think there's always going to be dissension in
the ranks. But I don't think that you should. I
think we should look at all the qualities of a
candidate really as open mindedly as we can, and say,
is this person qualified, you know, is this person going

(01:53:22):
to do what the people want? Does this person have
a history of being honest and truthful? Because I think
that's important. I think that's important important, But when we
post it on our double d uncensored Facebook page, some
people disagree with facts and truthfulness and they get upset.

Speaker 9 (01:53:44):
I spoke as a hate farm now anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:53:48):
Yeah, but you know, we we try to inform people
as well as we can. There's so many elderly people
out there that don't even have Facebook and they actually
someone called me today and said, you know, can you
can you send me the link to your podcast so
that I can send it in my email to my
friends that aren't on Facebook. You know, that's a lot
of that's a lot of people, any reasons. People with

(01:54:11):
the twenty thousand dollars mailing all across the state. I mean,
that's what John Deeton's doing, and it's all going into
the pockets of political consultants. And he's not going to win, now.

Speaker 12 (01:54:22):
I mean, I'd be embarrassed if he won.

Speaker 2 (01:54:24):
I don't mean if he won, I'd be shocked because
Elizabeth Warren has a war chest, and typically all corporate
and educational institutions, they no matter what they're leading, they
donate to the incumbentty.

Speaker 12 (01:54:40):
It's embarrassing if that guy wins. Because I'm sorry, is
that the best the mass Jobeek can bring forth for
a candidate.

Speaker 2 (01:54:50):
No, it wasn't the best, but it was the one
who had the money.

Speaker 12 (01:54:53):
Yeah, and that's what I'm talking about. He's an embarrassment.

Speaker 2 (01:54:57):
Well, he's a criminal. If what he says is true
in his book, he's a criminal, and he should be
just barred. And that's what people that Like, someone asked
me from Hanging Republicans, They said, do you really think
he's worse than Elizabeth Warren? Like, is that our bar
We have to be worse than worse than Elizabeth Warren

(01:55:19):
who was practicing law without a license in Massachusetts. I mean,
I don't know what. I think. We need to get
in the schools and make sure that they're teaching civics
and the constitution and how people are elected to office.
And uh, you know, we got way too much emotion

(01:55:40):
in this for someone who comes from a law enforcement background.
We we got way too much emotion in this world
people because we feel bad.

Speaker 9 (01:55:54):
All I'm going to say about Liz Warren is y'all
can have her, and we.

Speaker 2 (01:55:57):
Don't want her. She was an interlaw or just like Johnny,
we didn't we didn't didn't want either that's what we
center your way.

Speaker 12 (01:56:05):
No, thank you, thanks Bud, but my hat stepped on
my phone and disconnected me.

Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
Oh my god, and.

Speaker 9 (01:56:16):
You thought he heard a Haitian. Don't judge.

Speaker 2 (01:56:19):
Well, we Karen McRae wasn't able to come on today tonight, Diane,
but we did say that, you know, she did an
outstanding job. I have to.

Speaker 12 (01:56:29):
Eight votes that was separated thirty nine.

Speaker 2 (01:56:32):
I think, wow. And you know Matt more Torri, I
have to give it to him too, because you know,
he came on and you know I didn't you know,
I didn't smash him because it really was nothing because
there was nothing to smash. We really wanted to know,

(01:56:52):
you know, do will you support Carrie if she wins?
Will carry support you if you win? So there wasn't
any trick questions that there was and anything like that,
Like we are here to promote Republicans and he was
brave enough to come on. Some Republicans aren't. Some Republican
candidates aren't. We've invited them numerous times. Some Republican operatives

(01:57:16):
we've invited to come on.

Speaker 12 (01:57:18):
And I mean he gave an explanation as to why
he you know, supported or you know however we did
with the Democrats. Bottom line is if he wins, I
hope he represents the people that he needs to represent.

Speaker 2 (01:57:33):
Well, he's going to be held you know, with his
If he wins, his feet are going to be held
to the fire, just like carries would be. Yeah, you know,
friendships are friendships, But when you're representing a community or communities,
and we're talking about people who are spending millions of

(01:57:54):
dollars of our taxpayer funds and we are being taxed
out the backside in Massachusetts.

Speaker 12 (01:57:59):
And you know what, think about all those people that
have taken their vacations using their EBT cards in Hawaii
or the Virgin Islands or wherever else are going. They said,
EBT transactions were done in every single state using Massachusetts
ZBT cards, right, And they're supposed to have an oversight
They're supposed to have an oversight board for that. They're

(01:58:21):
supposed to they're supposed to contact the state if they're
going out of state and they plan on potentially using
their EBT cards. So I'd like to know who in
the state of Massachusetts a prove these.

Speaker 2 (01:58:34):
Well, I would like to know that too. I mean,
I can't imagine you know who the perfect person to
ask that is Diana z Aglio. You better believe it,
you know what, I really hope that she does come
on our show because, like I said before, like she
is my favorite Democrat. Actually I have a Kelsey Gavern. Tom,
You're my favorite Democrat and Tom knows who he is

(01:58:56):
from Massachusetts, but he is my favorite. But she's my
favorite female Democrat. Not to like break things down into gender,
but but I really I admire her. I admire her tenacity,
I admire how she wielded power with her sexual harassment case.
I wish I had known some of the political insider

(01:59:19):
whatever behaviors that she exhibits when I had run, because
she was a class act. She was a class act
while she was shoving it up their backside. And you
know now and now she.

Speaker 12 (01:59:33):
Has the goal to say that she wants to audit
you know, the house in the Senate of Massachusetts who
has all the stuff behind closed doors.

Speaker 2 (01:59:42):
So do you think Anthony Amory, a sick a fan
of the mass GOP, would have done the same thing. No,
I would have gone along, gone along to get along.
And if you know on, I'll take people on face
value until they until they proved me otherwise. But Diane
dezaglio in taking on the state auditorship, for whatever reason,

(02:00:07):
she took it on. It's a personal oath. It's a
personal They take a personal oath to be the state auditor.
And I'm a big proponent of oaths. I took an
oath when I joined the military. I took an oath
when I joined the state police. I took an oath
when I was married. And I do believe in oaths,

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and she took an oath.

Speaker 12 (02:00:31):
I just didn't put obey in my language.

Speaker 2 (02:00:34):
I didn't put obey either. But you know what they
I got married and belize and I found my marriage
license the other day. They called me a freaking spinster.
They're like occupation State Trooper Spenser. I'm like, you, freaking spinster, man.
I was hot when I got married. It's no way
that anybody would have called me a spinster. I'm so mad.

Speaker 9 (02:00:59):
You can put the definition though you are, you've been married,
you have kids. You're not a spinster, well not anymore.

Speaker 2 (02:01:06):
But accordingly, I was at thirty six years old, with
a career all of my own as a state trooper
undercovern Arcotex officer whatever, homicide investigator. But when I went
to go get married, I was reduced to a state
trooper slash spinster. And my husband was not like any
like he didn't have any name. Bachelor, yeah, bachelor, but

(02:01:28):
I was a spinster. I'm like Jesus, like, that's gonna
such a negative connotation to it. Like I think of
missus Krabits like our crabs. She's married, but she's a spinster.
Like Kylie Roberschard, she's a spinster.

Speaker 9 (02:01:46):
Done Dune Dunn.

Speaker 2 (02:01:51):
Sinister, Right, I don't know so well think.

Speaker 11 (02:01:55):
You talk about that.

Speaker 12 (02:01:56):
We're gonna, yes, because we're gonna hopefully here from todd Lyons,
so hopefully we can get him to come back on
from ICE because you know, he's had some great arrests
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:02:06):
And Todd is the Boston director, the Boston field Director
of Enforcement Removal Operations.

Speaker 12 (02:02:14):
Right, and you remember him Rick when he was on before.
He's had some pretty high profile Yeah, he's had some
pretty high profile.

Speaker 2 (02:02:24):
Arrests rape children.

Speaker 12 (02:02:27):
Yeah. Yeah, so I wanted we reached out to try
and get him on him and we have a few
other things that were working on up our sleeves too.

Speaker 2 (02:02:36):
Yeah, Dixie says there was an arrest on was it
Marcus or Nantucket rapist?

Speaker 12 (02:02:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:02:43):
Yeah, and oh and they actually honored.

Speaker 12 (02:02:45):
The Dukes Triff's department, right, So you know, I.

Speaker 2 (02:02:49):
Would like to know if there's a way that we
could find out who has not authorized ICE deertainers.

Speaker 12 (02:02:55):
Well here's the thing, which you know, I'm sure you
read the news whatever, but two of the Venezuela and
gang members and in Aurora, Colorado, they actually let out
on bail and they would not honor the ICE detainers
that ICE had them. These are two gang members that
were part of the ones that took over that apartment
building and everything, and they let them out.

Speaker 2 (02:03:16):
One of people moved to Colorado ruined Colorado. Then you
know they before that, they moved to Portland and ruined
that place.

Speaker 9 (02:03:24):
And Seattle Democrats are the human equivalent of locusts.

Speaker 2 (02:03:29):
I think the female liberal is, the female white liberal
is the greatest threat to society at this point. There's
answer their SUVs and their ponytails and picking up their.

Speaker 12 (02:03:42):
The latest that the latest that has me over the
edge of New Hampshire when because they're you know, running
all these ads against like Kelly Iyot and everything, they're
now basically stating the medically as they call it the
medically I was, I had to have a medically induced
abortion when my child like died, you know, say it

(02:04:03):
six months old or whatever. And I'm like, excuse an
abortion exactly? You tell me any woman who has miscarried
a child, okay, or a child that has you know,
died in vitro whatever, that that calls it a medically
induced abortion, because I can assure you they don't. I don't,
And I think it's disgusting and appalling that it's it's

(02:04:26):
a Democrat she used to be for the House rep
in New Hampshire whatever, but it's it's a pack that's
affiliated with Chris Pappus, who's our you know, congressman here.
And it's like these ads are running non stop and
it's like, seriously, I think it's an insult. And I
would say that the majority ninety nine percent of women

(02:04:46):
who have you know, lost a child due to miscarriage
or you know, they don't call it.

Speaker 2 (02:04:53):
A medical disbortion. Right, you had a live like well,
I don't want to say like a birth, but the
big be was not alive still born, like.

Speaker 12 (02:05:03):
Yes, But they're talking about they're talking about like a child.

Speaker 2 (02:05:09):
Yeah, and you can't say that, you know, a medically,
like if you're having a two wular pregnancy. I wouldn't
necessarily like characterize that as an abortion. I think it
as an abortion. It's like your child is not viable
or it's unwanted. I don't know if we lost your dive. Rick,

(02:05:36):
Thank you for letting us go over time.

Speaker 12 (02:05:39):
I'm here, Thank you Rick for letting us go over time.
And I'm sorry I was only here for five minutes.
But I will catch you all next week. You have
us four. We have three more Mondays this month, Rex,
so you get to join us for four this month.

Speaker 9 (02:05:54):
It's not great news hashtag slash risks.

Speaker 2 (02:05:59):
Risk mitigation A great good night, everybody.

Speaker 12 (02:06:02):
I'm off. I'll see you guys leday.

Speaker 2 (02:06:07):
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Oh you changed it right. It used to be at
Rowdy Rick Robinson, and now it's different.

Speaker 9 (02:06:24):
No, it's at Rowdy Rick seventy three. It's what it's
been for like the last five years.

Speaker 12 (02:06:28):
Okay, you're just an radio.

Speaker 2 (02:06:32):
Radio dot com. We have some special coming for you
next week.

Speaker 12 (02:06:36):
I see Eleida.

Speaker 9 (02:06:38):
Hopefully Diane can actually show up for this.

Speaker 12 (02:06:40):
Yes, Tie, I did make it, though late, better late
than ever.

Speaker 2 (02:06:43):
Yeah and present, No at Bay.

Speaker 6 (02:06:49):
Bye.

Speaker 10 (02:07:01):
Just what