November 20, 2025 • 36 mins
After the Cardinals' 41-22 blowout loss to the 49ers, Jess an Seth react to what they saw and talk about Michael Wilson's career game, Jacoby Brissett's performance and the play on defense.
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sp Nations Arizona Cardinals site. Is we get to react
to the Cardinals forty one to twenty two blowout loss
to the San Francisco forty nine ers, with so so
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much to just not like even though like if you
look at some of the numbers, you're like, well, the
Cardinals played well, they had almost five hundred yards of offense.
But that's about it. It's just it's kind of comical,
how just the situation is it?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
So?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, forty one to twenty two, second straight game of
given up over forty they scored. You know, it appears
the offense has found its cap in this, you know,
with this at iteration of the offense scoring you know,
twenty two to twenty seven points and given up a
ton seth. What what are we going to do about
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these Cardinals?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Well, I mean, it's it's just interesting because I you know,
obviously we both run sites and and things of that nature.
And it's fans don't care. They're they're weirdly okay with this,
and so it's just what can you do, right like
in reality, like what can you do with this group?
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And and how do you make them not care? And
and if if that's what they feel and that's what
they want, then there's nothing you can do about it, and.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Right you just you just let it play out that
way it is.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
It is basically that point where it's I'm not invested
emotionally into this team anymore. In fact, my like the
way things went in Seattle. That was laughable the way
it started against All I can do is just laugh
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and go, well, here we go. Because and let's talk
about just initial impressions. The overall feeling from the game is,
you know, I'm like that I'm here for the badness,
Like I'm here for the terrible play. And when the
opening kickoff gets taken ninety eight yards and it was
just after they got their asses handed to them in Seattle,
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they come home and that's how they open the game.
It's like, do the Cardinals even it's very it's weird.
It's like do they even want to win anymore? Or
are they just going through the motions at this point?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah, And it was interesting because that that all comes
down to coaching, right, and like you know, people look
at things and look at how it goes and and
they go, well, you know, what are they going to do?
And it's like, well, what what they're going to do
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is hopefully not wrap the bed like they did.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
And I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
It was just a really interesting game overall, and the
way it came about was just like you said, it
was just incompetence.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Right, you go on top of that, Yeah, it was.
It was the kickoff the immediate touchdown. Then you look
at you know, they fell behind thirteen to nothing. Defense
would like they got nothing defensively really, and then on
top of that, the record setting number of penalties seventeen
penalties for one hundred and thirty yards, and yes, not
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all of them were great penalties, but maybe you would
have expected that. That's That's the thing that's disappointing is
like we kind of feel like, well, his has Jonathan
Gannon lost this team because this isn't remember I've talked
about them over the last two and a half years
that in twenty twenty three they cashed enough of those
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chips to keep playing at a high level, at least
to competing at a high level. And you look at
that first year, there was I mean, they were overmatched,
but they they There was only really one game where
it felt like they had given up, and that was
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that was the Rams game in Week twelve and twenty
twenty three, you know, the San Francisco game earl of
the season, thirty five to sixteen, the thirty four to
twenty eight Bengals loss. It felt like they were competing
the entire time, they were just being bad and it
was only the Rams game when they dropped to two
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and ten, where it felt like they just kind of stopped,
like they were purposely that they didn't care. Last year,
you had two bad games where they just didn't compete
at all, and it was that was a Commander's game,
that was the Packers game, and it was just it
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they didn't compete at all. But after that they were
pretty solid that this year we go from we've gone
to the the heartbreaking, Hey, they give the ball, they
they give the they give the defense, they just need
to one more stop to we're getting the doors blown out,
blown out off of this, you know, they beat the Cowboys,
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and then then it's just suddenly, that's it. That's it.
Thirty five to nothing, deficit, four thirteen and nothing deficit,
give up over forty, lose by nineteen or more two
games in a row. I'm like, it's it's just like, well,
this is what you I get. And your reaction has
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been is like, this is what y'all wanted, this is
what y'all wanted. You wanted Jakobe prissaid at quarterback, and
and look what you get. You get fancy passing numbers
in losses that have been progressively worse.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Yeah, and and the question is what matters, like do
those fancy numbers matter or wins?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I guess well and then yeah, obviously, but even if
they're not going to win, and like now they're looking bad,
they're looking there. It's embarrassing to see what And this
is a forty nine ers team that had been embarrassed
the week before, like you would have thought. And this
is what Gandon's teams have always done, is like they
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have a bad loss, even if they just was lack
of they were just bad. They have always bounced back
and been disciplined and competitive. And after getting blown out
against Seattle, you would have expect did that and it
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was the opposite of that. It was bought special teams,
it was turnovers, it was bad defense, it was penalties
on both sides of the ball. And like this is
we find ourselves in kind of a crossroads here and
Jonathan Gannon promises they're going to turn it around. How
in the world are they going to turn this around?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Well, and how do you trust this team to turn
around when there's a difference between playing close games and
losing and being right there and then just not being competitive,
And like you said, the last two weeks have not
been competitive. You could even be okay with the Indianapolis game,
the Green Bay game, but the last two weeks are
really unacceptable, especially for a team that is in year
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three of their build, and more importantly, a team that's
based on defense and is getting nothing from their defense.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah, that is the thing that drives me and going
to get into the season. When people said, and I
was on a couple of podcast asked him like, well,
isn't the pressure on Drew Petsy now say what we
want about Drew Petsi. He had gotten good metrics and
numbers from the offense in the first two seasons. This
year things fell apart. But the Cardinals have had a
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patently bad defense. The last two years they went out
and gave all put all their assets into the defense
for Nick Rolis, and this year they've they've it's turned
into a crap show. It really is. It's turned into
a bad, bad team. And my initial impressions about the
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feeling from this game is like, this is what y'all wanted.
This is laughable. This has become a clown show to me,
And I hate to say that about a team that
I have for decades been hopeful and optimistic, and I
have finally, at least right now, I've reached across the
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threshold of whatever, man whatever.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yeah, and you look at it and the biggest issue,
I don't want to say the biggest issue, right, but
like the issue that became of everything is that you're
looking at a team that was like the ideal behind
the team, right, was built in the mold of the
Philadelphia Eagles. And we've had this conversation a number of times,
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and you know, people can say what they want about
whatever they want, and that's fine, but it was built
in the mold of the Philadelphia Eagles. The Eagles are
sixteenth in offensive scoring, they're twenty eighth and passing thirty
first and pass attempts and quite frankly, they don't even
run the ball that well this year. Right, they're twenty
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fifth in yards total like seventeenth, and rushing yards twenty
fifth and rushing yards per attempt like, they're not good,
but they're a good defense, right, And so that's kind
of what the mold is. And if you look back
at their last two wins ten to seven and sixteen
to nine, as ugly as those are, as bad as
football as those are, you go, oh, okay, that's what
the Cardinals want to be, right, Like, that's how you
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look at it.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
And so when you get two games.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Where that's the idea and and you're looking at it
and you going, okay, that's what how we want to compete,
that's that's our brand, blah blah blah, YadA, YadA YadA,
And then it doesn't happen. You go, oh, okay, Well,
then what are we as a team?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Right?
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Like?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
What what on earth are we? And?
Speaker 4 (11:31):
And I think that's what the concern has become, right,
is that this team just doesn't really show anything in
terms of of like where where do what's there? What's
their stamp?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Like what do you? Where do you go? This team
is good at X.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Or you know, Y or Z or whatever you know,
you get what I'm saying, but like what what where they?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
And I don't think sudden.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Team, right, And that's that's fantastic, But it's also coming
when they are behind, which makes it easy for volume passing.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Right, they're behind by a lot. They are.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Basically basically playing against previous defenses, and they're basically floundering
when the game's out of hand. And and those are
those are not the time. And just here's the other
crazy thing. They scored twenty two points. Like, you threw
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the ball fifty seven times, you had four hundred and
fifty passing yards, and he scored twenty two points. Like
that's your season average. You you did what you always do.
And so people are like, oh my gosh, look at
all these passing yards. By the way, just do you
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know that they now ranked first in passing attempts in
the NFL?
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Gosh like they were they were, Oh my gosh, they
were twenty ninth with Kyler.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
So again like the the shiny numbers are are cool,
but they're not. They don't lead to anything. You're you're
scoring these same amount of points. Yeah, and by the way,
now your point.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Differential is out of control, Yes it is. It's laughable. Man.
Come on next on the rest is Here podcast, Best
her Cardinals talking line, but talk a little bit about
one of the standout performers in the game, Mike Wilson.
Michael Wilson. That's kind of next. On Rice's Here Read
We're back on the Risers Here podcast, Best Our Cardinal's
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Talk on the Web. One of the bright spots from
the game. Obviously, we're gonna talk about Jacob percent in
a second. Trey McBride had a fantastic game, but he's
consistently good. He's consistently good. Michael Wilson playing the wide
receiver one role for the first time in his career
because Marvin Harrison Junior had appendicitis, had an appendectomy and
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will miss at least the game against the forty nine ers.
And what does Michael Wilson go and do. He's targeted
eighteen times, catches eight fifteen passes for one hundred and
eighty five yards. What a freaking debut. And but you know,
as awesome as that was to see from Michael Wilson,
my only thing I can think of was like, oh, oh,
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so now they target their their top receiver. This is
when so don't feed Marv, feed Michael Wilson. Is that
the game plan? What we're doing now?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Well, And it's interesting because people are using this game
as a see I told you Michael Wilson's the best
receiver on the Cardinal Trust and and here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
He might well be. But like the fact that people
are like, oh, look.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
At you know, I told you that Michael Wilson best players,
best receiver on the Cardinals roster, and you're like, when
did you say that? Because I've never heard you say that,
and so so now you're saying like, oh, yeah, this
is this. You know, this is the best receiver on
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the Cardinals roster, but you've never actually said that before.
And and now you're using confirmation biased to be like, see,
I told you this was the best guy on the
roster the whole time.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
And you're like, but wait, wait, what when did you
say that?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Because I don't know when did Well here's the thing.
It what it does is confirm what Tyler believes about
Michael Wilson, because he's the one who said, yeah, Michae,
well he's I believe he's a thousand yard type receiver,
like he's got the opportunities do it. But you know,
why is it that Michael Wilson can get eighteen targets
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but Marvin Harrison can't get more than six on target
throws when he's targeted twelve times. It's it's almost like
like with the Philadelphia Eagles, like the way they handle
a J. Brown And they're saying, so you get targets
and there there's crap targets, it's badly it's you know,
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throwing things on bad situations, uncatchable throws. I mean, I
love the fact that Wilson did that, but I look
at that as well, and I go, well, if they
can do that for Mike Wilson, why can't they do
that for Marvin Harrison? And I know part of the
answer is because because the forty nine ers didn't treat
Michael Wilson like Marvin Harrison Junior. I'm that is one
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hundred percent the case. They moved him around like they
moved Barb. But the fact of the batter is is
one San Francisco's defense isn't that good right now? And two,
they didn't treat Wilson like Harrison. Why would they, right?
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Why would they? Why would they feel the need to
in that instance? And so, like all of those things,
like you said, they come together to create the opportunity
that that happened. And again, nothing taking absolutely nothing away
from what Michael Wilson did. That was a fantastic, fantastic, fun,
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enjoyable outing to see he played his uh you know
what off to get there and and it was great
that it all worked out. And then at the same time,
you look at it and you go, yeah, they didn't
even like put them in a position to win, like
like like that's the hard part for me when when
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people get excited about stuff like that is like, and
I feel like I've always been very consistent with this,
is that I don't care, Like I don't care that
Michael Wilson put up one hundred and eighty five yard
receiving because they were all I shouldn't say all, they
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were a majority to your point, garbage time right, like
it was, it was garbage time.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
And here's another thing.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Just and I know that they're different players in the
way they use is different and blah blah blah, but like,
think about this, Wilson in ten games has thirty seven
receptions on fifty six targets for only four hundred and
sixteen yards. Marvin and nine games now because he missed
the one obviously thirty four receptions to less receptions, little
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more targets sixty two for five like Marv has one
hundred and nine extra yards on three less catches and
people and again, like this is a good problem to have.
It'd be great if Michael Wilson took that step and
you're like, holy crap, Michael Wilson is a baller, and
now you know you have too legitimate, like high end
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receiving threats as opposed to zero. And then you add in,
you know, maybe the best tight end receiving tight end
in the NFL. Like, holy crap, this is insane. But
why are we saying like, see, I told you he's
better than more? Like why, like what is the Like
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I just don't understand the whole idea behind It's like, hey,
let's let's knock one of our players to build up
the other player, but also, you know, do whatever we
can to knock down a play like it's just a
wild scenario.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
To me, it's it's it's still it was fun to see.
But you know that My takeaway was, well, when Marve
gets back, let's do that too. Let let's let's throw
him the ball like the through it to Michael Wilson
that anyway coming next on the RESI of Hered podcast,
The Best are of Cardinals talk on the web. Let's
move on and talk about quarterback Jacoby Brissett, a record
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and monster numbers. That's coming next time he read, We're
back on the Rise of Secret podcast, The bestar Cardinals
talk on the web. Brissette had a game for his career,
I mean forty seven and fifty seven passing for four
hundred and fifty two yards, two touchdowns and the two interceptions.
As he's been more prolific, the team has been doing
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less well, which is which is definitely unfortunate. He set
an NFL record. I mean, I don't know, like forty
seven pass you know, forty seven completions in a regular
season game. Woo hoo. I mean, he completed a lot
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of passing, but he was on target, and he had
four hundred and fifty two yards. That is number seven
in terms of single game records for the Cardinals. But
it took garbage time touchdowns to salvage what was It
was a really bad look because he had the two
bad interceptions, he got the too late touchdowns, and and
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you and I were texting about this earlier. That sort
of performance that just to me, with those volume numbers,
it felt like nineteen ninety five again, like the type
of games that the Cardinals starting quarterbacks had volume numbers
in blowout losses. It felt like this is it's like
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Cardinal the Cardinals are going the route of the Dave
Craig and the and the you know the boomeras the
washed up boomeras Sias in the Kent Graham, the all
of the different because all of the quarterbacks that the
Cardinals burned through in the nineties and they got some
a four hundred and fifty yard performance with two tuchdowns
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and two picks in a nineteen point loss. That's not
really something to celebrate, right, I mean, there were a
couple of good things when he did not get sacked.
He was hit only four times. Granted, San Francisco's pass
rush is anemic. They only have twelve sacks on the
entire season, so that was a positive, which allowed him
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to be able to deliver the ball down the field.
But we're seeing monster pass numbers that really don't do
anything different, Like the offense isn't better, there's not scoring
more points, they're not getting closer to win. And I
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don't know what to think about this, but clearly Brissett
is a capable starter in the NFL, but he's not
a difference maker.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Well, and it's again, what are you looking for?
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Are you're looking for a guy that's going to put
up numbers or you're going to look, are you looking
for a guy that's going to give you a shot
to win? And that was what was always so interesting
about the like, Oh, it gives you the best opportunity
to win. I'm like, then when do the wins come? Like,
that's that's my question.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
We've turned We've turned uh clos losses, heartbreaking losses to
blow out losses. That's it. It's in the progression it's been.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
And and you look at it and and you mentioned,
you know, the numbers, right, like the he's seventh all
time before him Boomer size, And isn't that I mean
and obviously Boomer had a better overall career, but like,
isn't that kind of the same thing, right, Like you
look at it. Kurt Warner at the end of his career,
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you know, was was crazy and had and you look
at all these numbers, right and and it was really
just Neil Lomax twice and then Jake Plumber wants that
was like games that were holy cow, like look at look.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
At what they did.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
And and you know, people I don't know, man, Like,
it's just it's wild to me that fans all of
a sudden are like, ah, whatever, you're going to lose
and they're okay with that. I just that's where I
struggle because you know, for so long it's always been like, oh,
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you know, you got to get somebody like the quarterbacks
holding the team back. Okay, all right, so you change quarterbacks,
and now your team's undoubtedly worse, and well, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
The defense isn't as good.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
It's like, well, the defense is finally healthy, so why
are they not as good?
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Oh my gosh. And so it's it's wild and it's
crazy that And I'm not saying this to be because
Jacoby's not been bad.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
No, and he's not been the issue.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
It's just showing that the issue is so much more systemic.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Than it is.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Then it is, you know, nothing like we're we're just
acting like oh yeah, it's no big deal like so
that I think that's where you know, yours and my
problem stands for more than anything else.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
And yeah, it's just it just doesn't make sense to
I mean, we're I mean, I guess it is. The vibes.
Vibes are like Jacoby's vibes are cool. You know, he's
he's putting them numbers, maybe says he he is the backup.
But people believe that he was the better option, and
he's the better option. Why are they no closer? Why
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are they no closer to winning than they were before?
Other than that they beat the Cowboys? Again? What is it?
What's what's the record now? What's the record now? Undrew
Gannon without Kyler?
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Two and one, two and twelve, And those two wins,
those two wins are both against the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
And against in games where we can point to and
say the Cowboys mismanage those games, they won't hundred present
mismanage those games.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Well, and it's just go back to the question like, look,
you and I have you know, we've gone to the
like hey, like it's probably best for both parties if
this is it under Kyle or with Kyler?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Right, But like I think were you.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
And I pushed back and where we kind of kind
of chuckle, is like wait when did when did it
not become about winning? When did it become about well,
look at how the stats and it's like, well wait what.
And that's the thing too, is like nobody really wants
to acknowledge that they're just using counting stats and being
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like see, look at how good they are, and it's
like Okay, but why are they so much less efficient
and effective? Like why is that not being acknowledged?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Four hundred and eighty eight yards they out gained the
forty nine ers by over two hundred yards and lost
by nineteen Like how do you pile up four hundred
almost five hundred yards of offense and not get to
thirty points at least?
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Right?
Speaker 4 (27:06):
And so that's those are the questions that you know,
you and I have, But what do we know?
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Gotter? Next on the Rise of Here podcast best or
Cardlo's talk of the Web. Finally we had to talk about, well,
the actual problem and that's the defense. That's kind of
next and rise ups he read back on the Rise
of Hecorite podcast. Best are Cardinal's talk on the web.
The defense looking at the defense now, granted the this
time it was the defense giving up over forty against
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the Seahawks. You know, fourteen of those points came against
the against the offense thanks to DeMarcus Lawrence a couple
of times. It's so forty four. They the defense gave
up thirty to the Seahawks and they gave up forty
one to the forty nine ers. I mean, they didn't
do anything well particularly San Francisco only had nine third
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doll granted, three for nine, that's a good percentage, but
the fact that San Francisco only had three nine third
downs the whole game. Brock Purty three touchdown passes, Christian McCaffrey.
They didn't slow him down. He had three. Like their
biggest weapons, Like their biggest names, brock Purty, Christian McCaffrey,
George Kittle, the Cardinals did nothing defensively to stop them
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from being their playmakers. Kittle had six catches for sixty
seven yards, score twice. Christian McCaffrey had three touchdowns one hundred,
one hundred and twenty one yards from scrimmage. Brock Purty
nineteen for twenty six for two hundred yards and three touchdowns.
It was it was like the Cardinals had no answer,
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and really the only thing you can kind of look
at and say, oh, Josh Sweat got another sack. He's
at nine. He's at nine, so that looks good. They
didn't get there. They know they only got They only
hit him three times in the game. They only had
three tackles for loss. You know, good job, good job
Alter Nolan with with two tackles. Both were tackles for loss.
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He had a quarterback hit, but other than that, Cody
Simon pack put up a whole bunch of tackles twelve
total tackles. But what we were looking at is is,
you know, it goes here. Here are the the drives
for the for the forty nine ers, touchdown, touchdown, punt, touchdown, punt,
field goal, field goal, field goal, touchdown, punt, touchdown, you know,
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end of the game.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Right, and and the issue has become they don't do anything, well.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
There was stop the run, they're not getting the quarterback,
and they don't get their hands on the ball.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Yeah, and all those things lead to games where like
I don't think that we've talked about the craziest stat
you mentioned part of it right totally yards. The Cardinals
out gained them by two hundred. Obviously, turnovers make a
huge difference, penalties make a huge difference. All those things
are you know, playing to it. But the Cardinal had
a nine and a half minute time of possession advantage.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
And I think the thirty nine ers had the ball
for the under twenty six minutes and scored forty one points.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Like that's what's crazy to think about, right, Like twenty
Both teams had twenty four first downs to the forty
nine ers. I'll say this, the Cardinals rush defense wasn't bad, right,
twenty five for ninety five. I know they gave up
two touchdowns, but twenty five for ninety five is not terrible, right,
But like the rest of it, there was no efficiency.
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There was no They can't stop the pass like at
all because they get no pressure on the quarterback SAMs,
their rookie who gets twenty five snaps. Like That's what's
wild to me is they just have They have two
guys that play less snaps combined than they had snaps
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in the game, and Josh swat And and Walter Nolan
those are the only two guys that get any type
of pressure all game on Rock Party. And then everybody's
kind of like, well, yeah, what are you gonna do? Right,
Like I'm like, wait, no, not what are you gonna do? Like,
where where is your pride?
Speaker 3 (31:24):
It's and and the fact that they're coming in against
the team that the Jackuars. We'll talk about the Jaguars.
Dya'ven scoring points?
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Then on the Chargers too.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
The one good thing, I mean, it's not good, but
the one good thing I would say is that. And
I talked to my buddy John Shipley, who who covers
the the Jaguars, and you know, he's like I because
I said, I was just chatting with him seeing if
he was coming out for everything, and he's like, no,
not gonna make this one. And I was like, oh,
(31:58):
I was like, you can just pre ride it like
bad Arizona Cardinals lose to Jaguars and and he's like, no,
not with this Jacks team, they're really And I said, no,
that is true. Like you do have a team that
is very up and down in Jacksonville, especially on the road.
They're two and two on the road. They've had some
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you know, negative games, but I mean the Cardinals haven't
looked competent in three weeks now. Like, I don't know
how you look at any game they're going forward and
think anything positively.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Of the Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Do nothing? Well, they do nothing at all?
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Well, well, I mean they throw the crap out of
them jest they I mean they they have a ton
of passing yards.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
So there's that that they do.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Indeed that they do. Indeed, for sure, man, is there
any hope for this team?
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Like here's the biggest thing. And I think you and
I would agree, like, whoever the quarterback is, whatever you
guys want to you guys can all fight that battle.
Just and I look at a lot of things, and
the one thing that we look at is that this
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team is just not competitive. And that's the biggest concern overall,
is that they're just not compared. Like they don't look
well coached, they don't look well prepared, they don't look.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Engaged like I think. I think if the.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Offense was putting, you know, if you were losing games
thirty eight to forty one, you'd be like, all right,
they need to fix the defense. Or if you're losing games,
you know, ten to seven, Okay, they need to fix
the offense. But they're losing games, like you said, the
last two games eighty five to forty four, they've outgained
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their opponents, and they're zero and two and not particularly
competitive against the second and third best team in their division.
I mean, they haven't even played the best team in
their division yet. And you look at their upcoming three
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games and how bad the defense has been, and you go, yikes, right.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Oh man, Jags, Tampa Rams Houston, maybe they can beat
maybe they can beat Kirk Cousins and the Falcons maybe,
but then they got to stop Ejean Robinson. So it's sad.
And with that we'll go ahead and wrap things up.
This is that wrap up this edition of the Rise
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sp Nations Arizona Cardinals site. Is we get to react
to the Cardinals forty one to twenty two blowout loss
to the San Francisco forty nine ers, with so so
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much to just not like even though like if you
look at some of the numbers, you're like, well, the
Cardinals played well, they had almost five hundred yards of offense.
But that's about it. It's just it's kind of comical,
how just the situation is it?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
So?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, forty one to twenty two, second straight game of
given up over forty they scored. You know, it appears
the offense has found its cap in this, you know,
with this at iteration of the offense scoring you know,
twenty two to twenty seven points and given up a
ton seth. What what are we going to do about
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these Cardinals?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Well, I mean, it's it's just interesting because I you know,
obviously we both run sites and and things of that nature.
And it's fans don't care. They're they're weirdly okay with this,
and so it's just what can you do, right like
in reality, like what can you do with this group?
(02:21):
And and how do you make them not care? And
and if if that's what they feel and that's what
they want, then there's nothing you can do about it, and.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Right you just you just let it play out that
way it is.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
It is basically that point where it's I'm not invested
emotionally into this team anymore. In fact, my like the
way things went in Seattle. That was laughable the way
it started against All I can do is just laugh
(02:59):
and go, well, here we go. Because and let's talk
about just initial impressions. The overall feeling from the game is,
you know, I'm like that I'm here for the badness,
Like I'm here for the terrible play. And when the
opening kickoff gets taken ninety eight yards and it was
just after they got their asses handed to them in Seattle,
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they come home and that's how they open the game.
It's like, do the Cardinals even it's very it's weird.
It's like do they even want to win anymore? Or
are they just going through the motions at this point?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah, And it was interesting because that that all comes
down to coaching, right, and like you know, people look
at things and look at how it goes and and
they go, well, you know, what are they going to do?
And it's like, well, what what they're going to do
(04:02):
is hopefully not wrap the bed like they did.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
And I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
It was just a really interesting game overall, and the
way it came about was just like you said, it
was just incompetence.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Right, you go on top of that, Yeah, it was.
It was the kickoff the immediate touchdown. Then you look
at you know, they fell behind thirteen to nothing. Defense
would like they got nothing defensively really, and then on
top of that, the record setting number of penalties seventeen
penalties for one hundred and thirty yards, and yes, not
(04:44):
all of them were great penalties, but maybe you would
have expected that. That's That's the thing that's disappointing is
like we kind of feel like, well, his has Jonathan
Gannon lost this team because this isn't remember I've talked
about them over the last two and a half years
that in twenty twenty three they cashed enough of those
(05:06):
chips to keep playing at a high level, at least
to competing at a high level. And you look at
that first year, there was I mean, they were overmatched,
but they they There was only really one game where
it felt like they had given up, and that was
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that was the Rams game in Week twelve and twenty
twenty three, you know, the San Francisco game earl of
the season, thirty five to sixteen, the thirty four to
twenty eight Bengals loss. It felt like they were competing
the entire time, they were just being bad and it
was only the Rams game when they dropped to two
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and ten, where it felt like they just kind of stopped,
like they were purposely that they didn't care. Last year,
you had two bad games where they just didn't compete
at all, and it was that was a Commander's game,
that was the Packers game, and it was just it
(06:09):
they didn't compete at all. But after that they were
pretty solid that this year we go from we've gone
to the the heartbreaking, Hey, they give the ball, they
they give the they give the defense, they just need
to one more stop to we're getting the doors blown out,
blown out off of this, you know, they beat the Cowboys,
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and then then it's just suddenly, that's it. That's it.
Thirty five to nothing, deficit, four thirteen and nothing deficit,
give up over forty, lose by nineteen or more two
games in a row. I'm like, it's it's just like, well,
this is what you I get. And your reaction has
(06:53):
been is like, this is what y'all wanted, this is
what y'all wanted. You wanted Jakobe prissaid at quarterback, and
and look what you get. You get fancy passing numbers
in losses that have been progressively worse.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Yeah, and and the question is what matters, like do
those fancy numbers matter or wins?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I guess well and then yeah, obviously, but even if
they're not going to win, and like now they're looking bad,
they're looking there. It's embarrassing to see what And this
is a forty nine ers team that had been embarrassed
the week before, like you would have thought. And this
is what Gandon's teams have always done, is like they
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have a bad loss, even if they just was lack
of they were just bad. They have always bounced back
and been disciplined and competitive. And after getting blown out
against Seattle, you would have expect did that and it
(08:02):
was the opposite of that. It was bought special teams,
it was turnovers, it was bad defense, it was penalties
on both sides of the ball. And like this is
we find ourselves in kind of a crossroads here and
Jonathan Gannon promises they're going to turn it around. How
in the world are they going to turn this around?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Well, and how do you trust this team to turn
around when there's a difference between playing close games and
losing and being right there and then just not being competitive,
And like you said, the last two weeks have not
been competitive. You could even be okay with the Indianapolis game,
the Green Bay game, but the last two weeks are
really unacceptable, especially for a team that is in year
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three of their build, and more importantly, a team that's
based on defense and is getting nothing from their defense.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah, that is the thing that drives me and going
to get into the season. When people said, and I
was on a couple of podcast asked him like, well,
isn't the pressure on Drew Petsy now say what we
want about Drew Petsi. He had gotten good metrics and
numbers from the offense in the first two seasons. This
year things fell apart. But the Cardinals have had a
(09:13):
patently bad defense. The last two years they went out
and gave all put all their assets into the defense
for Nick Rolis, and this year they've they've it's turned
into a crap show. It really is. It's turned into
a bad, bad team. And my initial impressions about the
(09:34):
feeling from this game is like, this is what y'all wanted.
This is laughable. This has become a clown show to me,
And I hate to say that about a team that
I have for decades been hopeful and optimistic, and I
have finally, at least right now, I've reached across the
(09:54):
threshold of whatever, man whatever.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yeah, and you look at it and the biggest issue,
I don't want to say the biggest issue, right, but
like the issue that became of everything is that you're
looking at a team that was like the ideal behind
the team, right, was built in the mold of the
Philadelphia Eagles. And we've had this conversation a number of times,
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and you know, people can say what they want about
whatever they want, and that's fine, but it was built
in the mold of the Philadelphia Eagles. The Eagles are
sixteenth in offensive scoring, they're twenty eighth and passing thirty
first and pass attempts and quite frankly, they don't even
run the ball that well this year. Right, they're twenty
(10:40):
fifth in yards total like seventeenth, and rushing yards twenty
fifth and rushing yards per attempt like, they're not good,
but they're a good defense, right, And so that's kind
of what the mold is. And if you look back
at their last two wins ten to seven and sixteen
to nine, as ugly as those are, as bad as
football as those are, you go, oh, okay, that's what
the Cardinals want to be, right, Like, that's how you
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look at it.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
And so when you get two games.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Where that's the idea and and you're looking at it
and you going, okay, that's what how we want to compete,
that's that's our brand, blah blah blah, YadA, YadA YadA,
And then it doesn't happen. You go, oh, okay, Well,
then what are we as a team?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Right?
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Like?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
What what on earth are we? And?
Speaker 4 (11:31):
And I think that's what the concern has become, right,
is that this team just doesn't really show anything in
terms of of like where where do what's there? What's
their stamp?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Like what do you? Where do you go? This team
is good at X.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Or you know, Y or Z or whatever you know,
you get what I'm saying, but like what what where they?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
And I don't think sudden.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Team, right, And that's that's fantastic, But it's also coming
when they are behind, which makes it easy for volume passing.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Right, they're behind by a lot. They are.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Basically basically playing against previous defenses, and they're basically floundering
when the game's out of hand. And and those are
those are not the time. And just here's the other
crazy thing. They scored twenty two points. Like, you threw
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the ball fifty seven times, you had four hundred and
fifty passing yards, and he scored twenty two points. Like
that's your season average. You you did what you always do.
And so people are like, oh my gosh, look at
all these passing yards. By the way, just do you
(13:06):
know that they now ranked first in passing attempts in
the NFL?
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Gosh like they were they were, Oh my gosh, they
were twenty ninth with Kyler.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
So again like the the shiny numbers are are cool,
but they're not. They don't lead to anything. You're you're
scoring these same amount of points. Yeah, and by the way,
now your point.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Differential is out of control, Yes it is. It's laughable. Man.
Come on next on the rest is Here podcast, Best
her Cardinals talking line, but talk a little bit about
one of the standout performers in the game, Mike Wilson.
Michael Wilson. That's kind of next. On Rice's Here Read
We're back on the Risers Here podcast, Best Our Cardinal's
(13:56):
Talk on the Web. One of the bright spots from
the game. Obviously, we're gonna talk about Jacob percent in
a second. Trey McBride had a fantastic game, but he's
consistently good. He's consistently good. Michael Wilson playing the wide
receiver one role for the first time in his career
because Marvin Harrison Junior had appendicitis, had an appendectomy and
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will miss at least the game against the forty nine ers.
And what does Michael Wilson go and do. He's targeted
eighteen times, catches eight fifteen passes for one hundred and
eighty five yards. What a freaking debut. And but you know,
as awesome as that was to see from Michael Wilson,
my only thing I can think of was like, oh, oh,
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so now they target their their top receiver. This is
when so don't feed Marv, feed Michael Wilson. Is that
the game plan? What we're doing now?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Well, And it's interesting because people are using this game
as a see I told you Michael Wilson's the best
receiver on the Cardinal Trust and and here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
He might well be. But like the fact that people
are like, oh, look.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
At you know, I told you that Michael Wilson best players,
best receiver on the Cardinals roster, and you're like, when
did you say that? Because I've never heard you say that,
and so so now you're saying like, oh, yeah, this
is this. You know, this is the best receiver on
(15:28):
the Cardinals roster, but you've never actually said that before.
And and now you're using confirmation biased to be like, see,
I told you this was the best guy on the
roster the whole time.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
And you're like, but wait, wait, what when did you
say that?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Because I don't know when did Well here's the thing.
It what it does is confirm what Tyler believes about
Michael Wilson, because he's the one who said, yeah, Michae,
well he's I believe he's a thousand yard type receiver,
like he's got the opportunities do it. But you know,
why is it that Michael Wilson can get eighteen targets
(16:06):
but Marvin Harrison can't get more than six on target
throws when he's targeted twelve times. It's it's almost like
like with the Philadelphia Eagles, like the way they handle
a J. Brown And they're saying, so you get targets
and there there's crap targets, it's badly it's you know,
(16:27):
throwing things on bad situations, uncatchable throws. I mean, I
love the fact that Wilson did that, but I look
at that as well, and I go, well, if they
can do that for Mike Wilson, why can't they do
that for Marvin Harrison? And I know part of the
answer is because because the forty nine ers didn't treat
Michael Wilson like Marvin Harrison Junior. I'm that is one
(16:50):
hundred percent the case. They moved him around like they
moved Barb. But the fact of the batter is is
one San Francisco's defense isn't that good right now? And two,
they didn't treat Wilson like Harrison. Why would they, right?
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Why would they? Why would they feel the need to
in that instance? And so, like all of those things,
like you said, they come together to create the opportunity
that that happened. And again, nothing taking absolutely nothing away
from what Michael Wilson did. That was a fantastic, fantastic, fun,
(17:27):
enjoyable outing to see he played his uh you know
what off to get there and and it was great
that it all worked out. And then at the same time,
you look at it and you go, yeah, they didn't
even like put them in a position to win, like
like like that's the hard part for me when when
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people get excited about stuff like that is like, and
I feel like I've always been very consistent with this,
is that I don't care, Like I don't care that
Michael Wilson put up one hundred and eighty five yard
receiving because they were all I shouldn't say all, they
(18:13):
were a majority to your point, garbage time right, like
it was, it was garbage time.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
And here's another thing.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Just and I know that they're different players in the
way they use is different and blah blah blah, but like,
think about this, Wilson in ten games has thirty seven
receptions on fifty six targets for only four hundred and
sixteen yards. Marvin and nine games now because he missed
the one obviously thirty four receptions to less receptions, little
(18:44):
more targets sixty two for five like Marv has one
hundred and nine extra yards on three less catches and
people and again, like this is a good problem to have.
It'd be great if Michael Wilson took that step and
you're like, holy crap, Michael Wilson is a baller, and
now you know you have too legitimate, like high end
(19:08):
receiving threats as opposed to zero. And then you add in,
you know, maybe the best tight end receiving tight end
in the NFL. Like, holy crap, this is insane. But
why are we saying like, see, I told you he's
better than more? Like why, like what is the Like
(19:29):
I just don't understand the whole idea behind It's like, hey,
let's let's knock one of our players to build up
the other player, but also, you know, do whatever we
can to knock down a play like it's just a
wild scenario.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
To me, it's it's it's still it was fun to see.
But you know that My takeaway was, well, when Marve
gets back, let's do that too. Let let's let's throw
him the ball like the through it to Michael Wilson
that anyway coming next on the RESI of Hered podcast,
The Best are of Cardinals talk on the web. Let's
move on and talk about quarterback Jacoby Brissett, a record
(20:09):
and monster numbers. That's coming next time he read, We're
back on the Rise of Secret podcast, The bestar Cardinals
talk on the web. Brissette had a game for his career,
I mean forty seven and fifty seven passing for four
hundred and fifty two yards, two touchdowns and the two interceptions.
As he's been more prolific, the team has been doing
(20:30):
less well, which is which is definitely unfortunate. He set
an NFL record. I mean, I don't know, like forty
seven pass you know, forty seven completions in a regular
season game. Woo hoo. I mean, he completed a lot
(20:50):
of passing, but he was on target, and he had
four hundred and fifty two yards. That is number seven
in terms of single game records for the Cardinals. But
it took garbage time touchdowns to salvage what was It
was a really bad look because he had the two
bad interceptions, he got the too late touchdowns, and and
(21:15):
you and I were texting about this earlier. That sort
of performance that just to me, with those volume numbers,
it felt like nineteen ninety five again, like the type
of games that the Cardinals starting quarterbacks had volume numbers
in blowout losses. It felt like this is it's like
(21:38):
Cardinal the Cardinals are going the route of the Dave
Craig and the and the you know the boomeras the
washed up boomeras Sias in the Kent Graham, the all
of the different because all of the quarterbacks that the
Cardinals burned through in the nineties and they got some
a four hundred and fifty yard performance with two tuchdowns
(22:00):
and two picks in a nineteen point loss. That's not
really something to celebrate, right, I mean, there were a
couple of good things when he did not get sacked.
He was hit only four times. Granted, San Francisco's pass
rush is anemic. They only have twelve sacks on the
entire season, so that was a positive, which allowed him
(22:22):
to be able to deliver the ball down the field.
But we're seeing monster pass numbers that really don't do
anything different, Like the offense isn't better, there's not scoring
more points, they're not getting closer to win. And I
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don't know what to think about this, but clearly Brissett
is a capable starter in the NFL, but he's not
a difference maker.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Well, and it's again, what are you looking for?
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Are you're looking for a guy that's going to put
up numbers or you're going to look, are you looking
for a guy that's going to give you a shot
to win? And that was what was always so interesting
about the like, Oh, it gives you the best opportunity
to win. I'm like, then when do the wins come? Like,
that's that's my question.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
We've turned We've turned uh clos losses, heartbreaking losses to
blow out losses. That's it. It's in the progression it's been.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
And and you look at it and and you mentioned,
you know, the numbers, right, like the he's seventh all
time before him Boomer size, And isn't that I mean
and obviously Boomer had a better overall career, but like,
isn't that kind of the same thing, right, Like you
look at it. Kurt Warner at the end of his career,
(23:38):
you know, was was crazy and had and you look
at all these numbers, right and and it was really
just Neil Lomax twice and then Jake Plumber wants that
was like games that were holy cow, like look at look.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
At what they did.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
And and you know, people I don't know, man, Like,
it's just it's wild to me that fans all of
a sudden are like, ah, whatever, you're going to lose
and they're okay with that. I just that's where I
struggle because you know, for so long it's always been like, oh,
(24:19):
you know, you got to get somebody like the quarterbacks
holding the team back. Okay, all right, so you change quarterbacks,
and now your team's undoubtedly worse, and well, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
The defense isn't as good.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
It's like, well, the defense is finally healthy, so why
are they not as good?
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Oh my gosh. And so it's it's wild and it's
crazy that And I'm not saying this to be because
Jacoby's not been bad.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
No, and he's not been the issue.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
It's just showing that the issue is so much more systemic.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Than it is.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Then it is, you know, nothing like we're we're just
acting like oh yeah, it's no big deal like so
that I think that's where you know, yours and my
problem stands for more than anything else.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
And yeah, it's just it just doesn't make sense to
I mean, we're I mean, I guess it is. The vibes.
Vibes are like Jacoby's vibes are cool. You know, he's
he's putting them numbers, maybe says he he is the backup.
But people believe that he was the better option, and
he's the better option. Why are they no closer? Why
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are they no closer to winning than they were before?
Other than that they beat the Cowboys? Again? What is it?
What's what's the record now? What's the record now? Undrew
Gannon without Kyler?
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Two and one, two and twelve, And those two wins,
those two wins are both against the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
And against in games where we can point to and
say the Cowboys mismanage those games, they won't hundred present
mismanage those games.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Well, and it's just go back to the question like, look,
you and I have you know, we've gone to the
like hey, like it's probably best for both parties if
this is it under Kyle or with Kyler?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Right, But like I think were you.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
And I pushed back and where we kind of kind
of chuckle, is like wait when did when did it
not become about winning? When did it become about well,
look at how the stats and it's like, well wait what.
And that's the thing too, is like nobody really wants
to acknowledge that they're just using counting stats and being
(26:39):
like see, look at how good they are, and it's
like Okay, but why are they so much less efficient
and effective? Like why is that not being acknowledged?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Four hundred and eighty eight yards they out gained the
forty nine ers by over two hundred yards and lost
by nineteen Like how do you pile up four hundred
almost five hundred yards of offense and not get to
thirty points at least?
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Right?
Speaker 4 (27:06):
And so that's those are the questions that you know,
you and I have, But what do we know?
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Gotter? Next on the Rise of Here podcast best or
Cardlo's talk of the Web. Finally we had to talk about, well,
the actual problem and that's the defense. That's kind of
next and rise ups he read back on the Rise
of Hecorite podcast. Best are Cardinal's talk on the web.
The defense looking at the defense now, granted the this
time it was the defense giving up over forty against
(27:33):
the Seahawks. You know, fourteen of those points came against
the against the offense thanks to DeMarcus Lawrence a couple
of times. It's so forty four. They the defense gave
up thirty to the Seahawks and they gave up forty
one to the forty nine ers. I mean, they didn't
do anything well particularly San Francisco only had nine third
(27:59):
doll granted, three for nine, that's a good percentage, but
the fact that San Francisco only had three nine third
downs the whole game. Brock Purty three touchdown passes, Christian McCaffrey.
They didn't slow him down. He had three. Like their
biggest weapons, Like their biggest names, brock Purty, Christian McCaffrey,
George Kittle, the Cardinals did nothing defensively to stop them
(28:22):
from being their playmakers. Kittle had six catches for sixty
seven yards, score twice. Christian McCaffrey had three touchdowns one hundred,
one hundred and twenty one yards from scrimmage. Brock Purty
nineteen for twenty six for two hundred yards and three touchdowns.
It was it was like the Cardinals had no answer,
(28:43):
and really the only thing you can kind of look
at and say, oh, Josh Sweat got another sack. He's
at nine. He's at nine, so that looks good. They
didn't get there. They know they only got They only
hit him three times in the game. They only had
three tackles for loss. You know, good job, good job
Alter Nolan with with two tackles. Both were tackles for loss.
(29:03):
He had a quarterback hit, but other than that, Cody
Simon pack put up a whole bunch of tackles twelve
total tackles. But what we were looking at is is,
you know, it goes here. Here are the the drives
for the for the forty nine ers, touchdown, touchdown, punt, touchdown, punt,
field goal, field goal, field goal, touchdown, punt, touchdown, you know,
(29:25):
end of the game.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Right, and and the issue has become they don't do anything, well.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
There was stop the run, they're not getting the quarterback,
and they don't get their hands on the ball.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Yeah, and all those things lead to games where like
I don't think that we've talked about the craziest stat
you mentioned part of it right totally yards. The Cardinals
out gained them by two hundred. Obviously, turnovers make a
huge difference, penalties make a huge difference. All those things
are you know, playing to it. But the Cardinal had
a nine and a half minute time of possession advantage.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
And I think the thirty nine ers had the ball
for the under twenty six minutes and scored forty one points.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Like that's what's crazy to think about, right, Like twenty
Both teams had twenty four first downs to the forty
nine ers. I'll say this, the Cardinals rush defense wasn't bad, right,
twenty five for ninety five. I know they gave up
two touchdowns, but twenty five for ninety five is not terrible, right,
But like the rest of it, there was no efficiency.
(30:36):
There was no They can't stop the pass like at
all because they get no pressure on the quarterback SAMs,
their rookie who gets twenty five snaps. Like That's what's
wild to me is they just have They have two
guys that play less snaps combined than they had snaps
(31:00):
in the game, and Josh swat And and Walter Nolan
those are the only two guys that get any type
of pressure all game on Rock Party. And then everybody's
kind of like, well, yeah, what are you gonna do? Right,
Like I'm like, wait, no, not what are you gonna do? Like,
where where is your pride?
Speaker 3 (31:24):
It's and and the fact that they're coming in against
the team that the Jackuars. We'll talk about the Jaguars.
Dya'ven scoring points?
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Then on the Chargers too.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
The one good thing, I mean, it's not good, but
the one good thing I would say is that. And
I talked to my buddy John Shipley, who who covers
the the Jaguars, and you know, he's like I because
I said, I was just chatting with him seeing if
he was coming out for everything, and he's like, no,
not gonna make this one. And I was like, oh,
(31:58):
I was like, you can just pre ride it like
bad Arizona Cardinals lose to Jaguars and and he's like, no,
not with this Jacks team, they're really And I said, no,
that is true. Like you do have a team that
is very up and down in Jacksonville, especially on the road.
They're two and two on the road. They've had some
(32:19):
you know, negative games, but I mean the Cardinals haven't
looked competent in three weeks now. Like, I don't know
how you look at any game they're going forward and
think anything positively.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Of the Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Do nothing? Well, they do nothing at all?
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Well, well, I mean they throw the crap out of
them jest they I mean they they have a ton
of passing yards.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
So there's that that they do.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Indeed that they do. Indeed, for sure, man, is there
any hope for this team?
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Like here's the biggest thing. And I think you and
I would agree, like, whoever the quarterback is, whatever you
guys want to you guys can all fight that battle.
Just and I look at a lot of things, and
the one thing that we look at is that this
(33:20):
team is just not competitive. And that's the biggest concern overall,
is that they're just not compared. Like they don't look
well coached, they don't look well prepared, they don't look.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Engaged like I think. I think if the.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Offense was putting, you know, if you were losing games
thirty eight to forty one, you'd be like, all right,
they need to fix the defense. Or if you're losing games,
you know, ten to seven, Okay, they need to fix
the offense. But they're losing games, like you said, the
last two games eighty five to forty four, they've outgained
(34:00):
their opponents, and they're zero and two and not particularly
competitive against the second and third best team in their division.
I mean, they haven't even played the best team in
their division yet. And you look at their upcoming three
(34:22):
games and how bad the defense has been, and you go, yikes, right.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Oh man, Jags, Tampa Rams Houston, maybe they can beat
maybe they can beat Kirk Cousins and the Falcons maybe,
but then they got to stop Ejean Robinson. So it's sad.
And with that we'll go ahead and wrap things up.
This is that wrap up this edition of the Rise
(34:52):
of Here podcast, Best Star Cardinals Talking. But we will
be back mixed later this week to preview Cardinals Jaguars.
I'll see if I can't get the Jaguar is right
to join me as well. And with that that seth Cox.
I'm jess Rue. Thanks for listening. As always, We'll be
back again soon.
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