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December 12, 2025 53 mins
The reeling Cardinals take on the red-hot Houston Texans on Sunday. Arizona will be shorthanded, too. Jess and Seth preview game, talk about keys and important matchups, and they make their game predictions and give you their favorite prop bets for the game. 
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Zo Zo.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
Hellower's on the Cardinals fans and welcome to the latest
edition of the Rise Up Secret Podcast, the best star
of Cardinals Talk on the Web. I'm your host Jess
Root from Cardswire dot com USA, today's NFL wire site
that covers your Arizona Cardinals. On the line with me
is my co host Seth Cox from Revenge of the
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we record episode seven hundred twenty eight, it is our

(00:54):
Week fifteen. It's our Cardinals Texans preview, picks and pres
The Cardinals, who are three and ten, loust five straights
and ten of their last eleven games, and seem to
be getting progressively worse going up against a team that
is red hot, has won five games in a row.

(01:15):
They have not allowed twenty points in their last four
games or in six of their last seven. They are
the number one defense in the NFL in terms of
points allowed, yards allowed, first downs allowed, their number three
against the pass, their number five against the rush, and

(01:38):
they have elite pass rushers.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, the Cardinals.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
This is an awful game if you are if you
want the Cardinals to win. This is a game we
wonder if people will survive.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, this is probably the worst matchup of the season
in terms of just match up on paper. I mean,
could it be as bad as the Seattle game. Probably
not in terms of like first what sixteen minutes, first half,
first half?

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Could it could?

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Well? I don't know if their offense is good enough.
It's not bad by any stretch of the imagination, but
it's not. Yeah, they definitely, they definitely are going to
score or force a score. On defense. Uh, they're just
elite defensively. You brought it up. I mean their past
rush Daniel Hunter as eleven sacks, Will Anderson's enough, you know,

(02:42):
you look at it from that perspective. And then and
then they have, you know, some very talented linebackers as
the al share in Henry to Toto. But el Shair
is also potentially the dirtiest player in football, so that's
obviously a huge huge issue. Kamari Lasser and Derek Stingley

(03:08):
are probably the best young corner duo in the NFL,
because Stingly might be, you know, top three in the NFL.
Jalen Peatree is his morphed into an absolute terror on
the back end at safety, you know, really turned into

(03:29):
a to a special player both you know, against the run,
but also he's become such a weapon against the past
twelve or sorry, nine passes defense, which is a career
high four interceptions, which is one off his career high,
and that's in ten games played, Jess. I mean, he
hasn't even played in every game and he's doing all

(03:50):
of that, you know. So you look at that defense, Jess,
and it's just it is the elite of the elite.
And you know, it's always interesting when people talk about
decisions and what the Cardinals have done, and we go

(04:14):
back to Monty's first draft and people, you know, want
to say, oh, they should have stuck and picked Will Anderson.
And by the way, that would not have been a
bad pick. I don't think there was any any situation
in which Anderson Junior failed as a player. But this

(04:35):
is one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL.
And if you take off the one guy that's a
Pro Bowl level talent in Paris Johnson Junior. How much
worse is it? And I know people would be like, well,
you would have drafted or signed to left tackle. Yeah,
you would have signed Jonah Williams or you know, like

(04:56):
it's it's not like their left tackles just grow on trees.
And then you know, I've heard people be like, well,
you know, you would have been so bad, you could
have drafted Joe Alt. The next year, it's like, okay,
so you have Joe Alt.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Couldn't they have drafted Joe Alt anyway?

Speaker 1 (05:15):
I know? So so you know, it's just interesting to
look at because you know, whether or not people like it,
whether or not people agree with it. The reality becomes
the Texans with Jamico Ryans obviously, you know, became the

(05:39):
head coach the same year as Jonathan Gannon. He's never
won less than ten games. Obviously, that first season was
was borderline special when when they made a made a
run into the divisional round. You know, the next season
they they made another run into the divisional round, kind

(06:01):
of shocked everybody by beating the Chargers and then and
then came back down to earth a little bit against
the eventual AFC champion Kansas City Chiefs. But you know,
you look at it, Jess, that was the expectation and
maybe not you know, the best defense in the NFL,
but that was the expectation with with signing Jonathan Gannon, right,

(06:26):
And and that's why those that are looking at it
and going, you know, maybe they need to move on.
Maybe that's maybe that is a fair thing to say.
That's that's where they stand on that, right. Just like

(06:47):
you've got a guy that was drafted or not drafted,
but you know, signed in the same year and people
could say, oh, well they have c J. Stroad, he
was doing so much better.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Well.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
C Shroud has been the definition of average this year.
He's five and five, twelve touchdowns, six interceptions. It's you know, okay,
and all the other metrics. Davis Mills is three and
oh Jess. And he completes less than sixty percent of
his passes and there's three and oh in his starts. Like,

(07:22):
when you build the side of the ball that wins
football games, you don't have to worry about what the
offense does. And that's just the reality. I mean, they
have Nico Collins, who's gonna put up over a thousand
yards barring you know, an ir trip in the next week,
and after that they're Number two is Dalton Schultz, the

(07:44):
tight end, who's you know, fine, five hundred and seventy
four yards. And then from there it's, you know, just
a mishmash of guys that are going to go for
right around five hundred yards on the season. Jayden Higgins,
the rookie, Jalen Noel old school Chris drink Kirks only
played in nine games this year as two hundred and
four yards. They're they're running backs, you know. They they

(08:06):
brought in the bionic Man. Nick Chubb. He's been fine.
I mean he he doesn't do a whole lot recently.
You look at it, just the last five games he
has twenty four carries, not and.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
And he's doesn't look like he's tracking to play this
week either.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Right, and then why would you, I mean, I don't
need you don't need Nick Chubb against the Cardinals. But
he also he also, like you said, hasn't been healthy.
And so Wood he marks, yes, something named Wood he
marks is their leading rusher. He's just a fourth round
pick out of Mississippi State, went to USC after that yeah,

(08:52):
fourth round running back Jess doesn't really run particularly well.
I mean averages three and a half yards to carry.
I was just forty two yards a game. He is
a very dynamic player out of the backfield. I think
we can both agree with that. Iver just nearly ten
hours per reception. But like, yeah, I mean he's he's

(09:14):
a version of Michael Carter. I mean a little bit
bigger at two a weight, but like you know, kind
of Michael Carter. Ish. Uh, the run games terrible. Their
past game is ZI average at best, and they're eight
and five and like you said, Jess, they just beat

(09:34):
the tar out of teams lately.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yes, they have. And their offense is not that they
do not wow you offensively. This doesn't this team look
like how it we feel like Jonathan Gannon wished the
Cardinals did defensively with just a just a just efficient

(09:57):
enough offense to do the job. Because like you look
at the points, you know, twenty to ten over the Chiefs,
twenty to sixteen over the Colts, twenty three to nineteen
over the Build, sixteen thirteen over the Titans. They beat,
they scored thirty six on Jacksonville. But they are methodical.

(10:18):
They if c. J. Stroud is more or less doing
what Kyler did last year, right, he's having a very
he's having an okay season. He's doing what he's coached
to do. But he hasn't been the same quarterback he

(10:41):
was his rookie year, whether it was the shell shock
from a year ago or simply making different decisions because
the defense that they have this year is is elite
at every level that he just like he was so
ynamic as a rookie and just kind of fell back

(11:02):
and he wasn't bad last year, and he hasn't been
bad this year. But he hasn't been great. He hasn't
been great. He's been he's been a pretty good starting quarterback,
which is I mean, they're winning games well.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
And again I go back that they go through and.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Now what Davis Mills tells you something about that that
that team overall, it's like, you know when Colt McCoy
was winning games for the Cardinals.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Right and you look at it. I mean you mentioned
that that Jacksonville game just there they were, they were
down twenty nine to ten and won thirty six to
twenty nine. They scored twenty six points in the fourth quarter.
You know, Davis Mills had three touchdowns in the fourth quarter.

(11:50):
I mean he passed for two ran for one. So yeah,
I mean that that that was the anomaly of the game.
But you mentioned it, Jess. I mean the next week
against Tennessee they win sixteen to thirteen. You know, they
beat the Bills twenty three, nineteen, they beat the Colts

(12:12):
twenty to sixteen. They beat the Chiefs and beat up
the Chiefs twenty to ten. And by the way, that
Colts and chief that Colts game in that Chiefs game
on the road, like they're just a just a physical,

(12:32):
dominating football team. They have had games where they look
borderline elite on offense, right, Jess, I mean the Baltimore
game they won forty four to ten. You know, that
went over San Francisco, they put up four hundred and
seventy five yards of offense, they won twenty six to fifteen.

(12:55):
But then they have games where where they look, you know,
very pedestrian, that that loss on Monday Night football to
the to the Seattle Seahawks. They only had two hundred
and fifty four yard of offense. You know, But but
you mentioned it. Just what they do and who they
are is their defense, and outside of the first game

(13:20):
or the second game this seasons, excuse me, they haven't
allowed over three hundred and fifty yards of total offense
the rest of the season. In fact, just in in,
oh my gosh, in ten of their thirteen games. They've
allowed less than three hundred yards of.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Offense in six of their last seven, six of their
last seven as well.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Cheese. Yeah, So, I mean they're just they're playing at
a physically elite level ess and you look at it,
offenses like the Colts and the Chiefs that are, you know,
head and shoulders above the Cardinals, they're struggling to get
to two hundred and seventy five yards of offense. And

(14:06):
so it's one of those games where they don't need CJ.
Stroud to be twenty twenty three CJ. Strowd. They just
need CJ. Stroud to be the guy he's been this year, right,
I mean, two hundred yards and a touchdown should be
more than enough. They don't need the guy that threw
for three eighteen right against against San Francisco. They don't

(14:29):
need the guy that through for you know how an
eighty five percent completion percentage for two hundred and forty
four yards and four touchdowns against the Ravens. Now. To
be fair, that's probably what they're going to get because
the Cardinals defense is so porous, but they don't need it.
And so that's the thing is you look at it.

(14:50):
They really don't need CJ. Stroud to be anything more
for them to win games. And that's probably what we're
looking at again this week is just do enough, you know,
turn around, hand the ball to Woody Marks, throw the ball, hit, hit,
get Nico Collins is eighty five yards to get over
one thousand for the season.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
You know he's going for one fifty, right.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Well yeah, but that's what I mean. He only needs
eighty five and technically eighty four. Ning's at one thousand.
But and that's just that's what this game is going
to be. It's a very it's gonna be a very
workman like whole home game for them on offense because
their defense is going to eat in this one.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Oh my gosh, let's let's talk about this game coming
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Cardinals talk on the Web, Keys matchups, the ones that
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back on the Rise of Secret podcast, The Star Cardinals
talk on the web talking about Cardinals Texans this weekend
in Houston December in Houston, teased the game. We have

(15:57):
reached the point that this is not about keys to victory.
It's keys to not embarrassing to self. And I think
number one, I mean, how are they going to avoid
turning the ball over? Because this Texans team has forced

(16:22):
at least one takeaway in ten of their last eleven games,
and have multiple takeaways in four of their last six
and five of their last eight weeks. They are piersome.
And while Jacob Brissette has done an okay job of
protecting the football, he's got that league record interception percentage

(16:47):
for his career. I mean, the Cardinals will have exactly
zero chance if they turn the ball over even once
this game.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, and you look at it. I mean, on the season,
Jacoby you know, has has only five interceptions, which is,
you know, right around his career average. But he is
a bit careless with the ball in terms of fumbles.
He's already got four on the season. Now, he's been

(17:22):
better in the last four weeks. He hasn't he hasn't
been as bad. But until last week. They really haven't
played a defense that forces a lot of fumbles, right,
I mean, and and so I guess you can be
happy he just threw an interception in the game and
didn't really do much else. And so you look at

(17:47):
it from that perspective. He can't turn the ball over,
like you said, I mean, he's got to continue to
protect the football. But he's been he's been, you know,
a little bit careless in terms of you know, nine
turnovers on the season. And then the reality of the

(18:09):
situation is he's got to get rid of the ball quick.
I mean, he can't. He can't look and live for
the big play because it's just not gonna happen this week.
We talked about it off the air. There's been one
guy that's thrown for over two hundred and fifty yards
against this team, Josh Allen. And as much as Jacoby's played, well,

(18:30):
he's not Josh Allen. So they're gonna have to get
the ball out quick. They're gonna have to get the
ball to Michael Wilson, Trey McBride. See how that goes.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
It doesn't look like Marv's gonna play this week again,
or Max Meltin.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Or and Paris is definitely out already.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Paris has already been ruled out. Evan Brown is not
back from his personal absence, so he's missed two days
of practice.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
I mean, we all knowed.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Come on, well, we were talking before the show. I mean,
is this a case where like and if whatever is
happening with that in Evan Brown's life that's causing him
to miss an entire week of the NFL season, that sucks.
I mean that that's that might be serious. But at

(19:22):
the same time, isn't this the time of year where
you start wondering about vet guys And if, for example,
the conversation was had with Evan Brown to say, hey,
we're gonna give We're gonna give Gainsey some playing time,
and Evan Brown's like, oh, oh okay, I'm gonna go home.

(19:45):
I don't want to say that's happened. But the way
this season is going, the way the season is going,
I wouldn't put it past the Cardinals of taking their
one once starting their one of two starting linemen left
and to say, you know, we're going in a different direction,
you know, kind of like how Owen Papo quietly played

(20:05):
the entire game as sin of a King Davis Gaither
last week. Yeah, I mean most personal things say say
it was a baby, because we don't usually know until
like afterwards. And Evan would have been back by Monday
or Tuesday. He didn't. He was not back, not back

(20:26):
on Wednesday, not back on Thursday. So if it's something
trad if it's something tragic that's been happening in his life,
well then then that's awful and he needs to take
the time that he is. But there is nothing. We're
at a point in the season we don't trust anything
about what the Cardinals are doing, and so wouldn't be
surprised by any nonsense that it might be correct.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
And you know, you look at this week and they
just you know, what are the matchups that matter? Well,
can the Cardinals block the Texans? The answer is no.
I mean, I like Kelvin Beechrim. He's a nice guy,
he's a swell fellow. He's not going to stop Daniel
Hunter and Will Anderson right and then and then across
from them it'll be Josh Fryer. And so you look

(21:09):
at it and you go, okay, well, you know, god
speed Jakobe. And then it gets worse and there are
I mean, obviously you never root for injuries because it's
just bad business. But you know, there are some things
you look at. Felden Rankins has been dealing with an

(21:32):
elbow issue. Maybe they don't need him this week. Wouldn't
shock anybody, right, as we talked about al Sha here,
he hasn't practiced. Maybe he doesn't play this week. You know,
those those both would be massive benefits to the Cardinals.
I don't think it swings the game in any way,

(21:55):
shape or form, but it would definitely give the Cardinals
more of a fighting chance if they're able to not
or they don't have to face al Share and Sheldon Rankins.
And let's be honest, dress there's also the reality that

(22:16):
there could just be teams that are like, ah, these
guys are a little nicked up. We're playing the Cardinals.
We're not going to force this guy back out here,
Like who cares? Like it's the Cardinals, right, So what.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Do we need for the Cardinals to do?

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Like?

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Can we say they need to run the ball. But
I mean it hasn't mattered Kansas City Rush for one
hundred and twenty six and Buffalo Rush for one hundred
and forty three and they still didn't Like Kansas City
were ten, Uffle scored nineteen and the Cardinals don't even
run the ball.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
So like, yeah, I'm I mean, that's what's the difficulty.
Is nobody's thrown the ball effectively on this team all year.
Like it's just the reality of the situation. Nobody's thrown
the ball effectively. I mean, you go back to the
Rams game Game one, where the Rams won fourteen to
nine in a barn burner, and the Rams had two

(23:07):
hundred and ninety six total yards on offense. Matthew Stafford
in that game, you know, he went for two forty
five in a touchdown. Like that's been the best game
of the season against the.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Texans, and that's this year's possible MVP as a result.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Right and so and so you know you look at it,
and that's kind of what has to happen, is you
have to have an efficient because here's the thing. He
threw the ball twenty nine times in that game. Jacoby's
never thrown the ball that little ever this season, and

(23:52):
so they have to be efficient. It can't be a
game where Jacoby throws the drops back, you know, fifty
five tomes times throws the ball forty eight, scrambles four
and gets sacked three. Like, that's not gonna work out.
They're gonna lose by sixty Okay, maybe not sixty, maybe
thirty five.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
But it's oh man, But I'm legitimately worried about the
health of Jacoby. Wes said, like, how is he gonna
get through this Cream game? Because if we have to
say the name Keten Slovas at quarterback or include that
in our game summary, there is no shot in it.
Like I'll joke about this, but the two snaps that

(24:33):
Keaten Slovas had when against Jacksonville, In fact, the very
foot when when Jacoby got hit and he had to
leave the game for a couple of plays. That very
first play, they didn't even trust Keten Slovas to hand
the ball off. They had direct snap to Greg Dortch.
I thought that was one of the most Like when
you get a backup in this they always do a handoff.
They didn't even let him handle the ball. So imagine

(24:58):
if he has to play because Jacoby gets hurt, that
I don't I don't even know. But matchups, obviously we're
gonna look at the tackles against the the Leite pass
rushers Will Johnson against Nico Collins. See how that goes.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Well, and you look at it, Jess. There's a couple
other things. I mean, you mentioned Jacoby right, here's a
reality that's crazy. And we'll talk about the props in
a little bit, but this is super interesting in the matchups.
His over under for passings two thirty four and a half, Jess.
He hasn't thrown for less than two hundred and fifty

(25:36):
eight yards in a start. His over unders twenty four
yards less than his lowest total on the season. Because
the matchup is so astronomically difficult for them. You look
at their coverage and their cover corners Pamari Lassiter and

(25:58):
Derek Stingley Junior are you know, the elite of the
elite in terms of cornerback play on the season. And
then that we mentioned Jalen Petrie earlier. He has been
you know, insane this year. And then their other safety

(26:20):
in terms of Kaylen Bullock, you know, he's he's kind
of the enforcer. And so you look at you look
at their secondary and you look at what they've done
to all passers. Again, the high this year in passing
yards was two hundred and fifty three by Josh Allen.

(26:43):
This Houston defense because of their coverage abilities and then
the fact that they have two elite pass rushers and
Daniel Hunter and Will Anderson our our matchup nightmares for
the Cardinals. Again, the one thing that could help is
if Rankins is gone, because he brings that interior pressure

(27:04):
that they don't really have without him. You look at
their numbers on the season. He's played in every game.
He has twenty six hurries on the season. Their next
guy in terms of defense in interiors at sixteen, So
he's the guy that brings the pressure on the interior

(27:25):
while obviously Anderson and Daniel Hunter are the guys on
the outside. You know, the other thing is how do
they how do they control al Shair's That's a legitimate question.
He leads the Texans and tackles Jess. He's a decent

(27:49):
cover guy, but what he is is he's an enforcer.
He's a throwback in terms of.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Order. Line dirty is this reputation and line and you
look at the guys that he is.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Taken out And I hate saying stuff like this, but
and if if al Shire plays, can Trey McBride, because
that's who will be on him. Can McBride stay healthy,
Like that's a legitimate question that you have to ask

(28:32):
with Alshire covering him, because it's not a question of will.
Like he's he's decent in coverage, he's not great. He's
allowed thirty five catches for two hundred and eighty two
yards on the season, He's got one interception. But he's
going to take shots on on McBride from his his

(28:55):
linebacker position and take some liberties with how he plays.
That's why not because I'm like, oh, it will help
the Cardinals win the game. He could not play, and
I still wouldn't pick him to win. But I don't
want to watch a promising young player like Trey McBride

(29:19):
get hurt this late in a garbage throwaway season, when
he's on pace for a record setting season from the
tight end position. I don't want to see him get
hurt in a game like this, Like it's just it.
As much as it sucks to say something like this,
it's not that important. And so that's one of the
matchups I'm watching because you know, Again is gonna be

(29:44):
on him, Al Shaier is gonna be on him. They're
gonna throw different guys to try to mitigate what Trey does.
That's gonna be something to watch because I just I
want to I want him to get through this game healthy,
because I really do. I mean, it really is a
on the flip side jess on offense. How do you

(30:05):
slow down something that's not great? Right? Obviously, the biggest
thing is gonna be Nico, Right, you got to you
gotta you gotta contain Nico Collins. Again, he's he's right
on pace for a thousand yards the way they played
Puca last week. If they played Nico the same and
I know they're not the same receivers and the usage
isn't the same, but if you play him in a

(30:27):
similar manner, he's gonna put up similar numbers. And you
joked about it, but you were slightly joking and slightly
serious in what you were saying, right, like, like he'd
go and so how do you slow him down? Because
he's really the only guy, right, I mean, we talked
about Dalton Schultz. Is it gets you fifty yards? You know,

(30:49):
not even really fifty, like forty five yards? You know
what he marks is gonna get you forty three yards
in the game, Jayalen Noel is gonna get you forty,
but Nico Collins is gonna get you eighty plus. So
how do you control Nico Collins and make him hard
to beat? And the reality becomes you have to you know,

(31:10):
somebody else has to beat you. You know, whether whether
it is what he marks, whether it is Jaden Higgins, Jaylen, Noel.
You know, one of these guys has to beat you.
You cannot let Nico Collins beach you because if Nico,
if Nico Collins beat you, I mean, we talked about
it last week, right, like we knew that Kyron Williams

(31:33):
and and Blake Korn we're gonna run wild, Like we
knew that, and then there wasn't much you could do
about it. But it's worse when it just happens, right
Like you're like, these are the guys that are gonna
beat us, and then the three guys on offense, they're like, hey,
we got to slow them down. It's like, no, those
guys have like massive games. That's that's frustrating. And so

(31:53):
like if Nico Collins to your you know, joking but
serious point comes out and puts up one hundred and
fifty yards, at that point, you got to start, and
we've already started, but you've got to question rollis, like,
what are you doing, bro, Like, make anybody else beat you.
Let Noel or Higgins go for one hundred and twenty yards,

(32:14):
make one of those other guys beat you. But if
Nico Collins goes for one hundred and fifty yards, and
don't get me wrong, Nico Collins is a very very
good player. But if Nico Collins goes for a one hundred
and fifty yards, that's just you being stubborn. I mean like, well,
we're not going to change and scheme our defense for
one specific guy. Well, that one specific guy just toasted
you for one hundred and fifty yards last week, and

(32:34):
Puka Nakua and two touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
And they rushed for two hundred and fifty yards.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Almost got right. So it's like at some point you
have to start scheming to, let you know, to make
somebody else beat you. And when you look at the
Houston offense, nobody is outside of Nico Collins. Nobody is
jumping off the page right like nobody's had this year
where you're just like, damn, this guy's killing it other
than Nico Collins. So don't let Nico Collins beat you. Like,

(33:02):
I know, it sounds simple, but like again, just anybody else,
just anybody else, and you'll be like, all right, I'll
live with that. But if it's Neco Collins, you're like,
what are we doing? Yeah? Man?

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Coming up next on the Rise of Here podcast, Best
Our Caldine's Talk of the Weather's talk about our predictions, picks, predictions,
and the prop bets that'll make you a little bit
of money. That's kind of an extant receips.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
He read.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
We're back on the Rise of Here podcast, Best Our
Cardinals talk on the web. Time to bake our predictions
for this game. Needless to say, there is little hope
we have. And let's let's look at the what the
betting public says. Ninety six percent of the money line
back the Texans, which is no surprise, and even with

(33:46):
a nine and a half point spread nine and a
half guys, that's huge. Seventy three percent still back the Texans.
And I am one hundred percent on board with that.
I do not think. Now, what's always the danger in
one of these games is that the Texans play a

(34:09):
mucky game offensively, but the Cardinals don't show the ability
to slow guys down like Tampa. And we just saw
Tampa lose to the Falcons. Their season is fading very quickly.
And the Cardinals play the foul Falcons next week. Is

(34:31):
but Kirk Cousins just throw three touchdown passes. So yeah,
that's what's coming up next next week. I expect this
game to be where the Cardinals, if they get to
double digits, they'll be lucky. If they score two touchdowns,
I'd be shocked. My prediction for this game is a

(34:54):
methodical twenty seven to ten game, and I bet there's
a defensive score. Other Wise it would be you know,
twenty to ten, very boring, but you know, barely covering.
But I think there. I think there will be a
defensive score in there, because I don't think the Cardinals
will be able to hold onto the ball the entire game.
So twenty seven to ten Texans and you know, in

(35:17):
the Cardinals, if they score points, good on them, because
they're they're Their offense is no match for this defense.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
It's really not. And so we'll see how that goes.
You know, you look at overall this season and what
they've what they've done, and the question becomes that forty
two and a half for me, because I'm with you, jest,
there's no way. I just don't see a way the
Cardinals cover that that nine and a half. Excuse me.

(35:50):
So it's the forty two and a half and the
fact that the money is starting to move to the over.
It's really interesting because you can break the things down,
so you go, you know, at least on FanDuel. I'm
sure you cann't bet MGM as well. But the money
on FanDuel is starting to move to the over. But
the money on fanduels on the Cardinals under sixteen and

(36:13):
a half, meaning that people are thinking that the Texans
score more than twenty six, just like Jess. And the
fact that it's going over forty two and a half
to the Sharps is what is getting me because it's like, Okay,
you think the Cardinals maybe score thirteen, like maybe they

(36:35):
get a touchdown in two fieldals, So are they like,
are people really thinking that the Texans put up thirty
five points? I would have a much easier time betting
that over if I had seen anything in recent weeks
outside of that fluky Jacksonville game where they put up points.

(36:59):
But in the life. Last four games, just they're averaging
twenty one points a game. It's not like the Texans
are torching teams and in fact justs since their bye week,
they've only scored over thirty points one time. They've only
scored over that twenty six and a half mark one time,

(37:21):
and that was again where they had twenty six points
in a quarter. So it's really hard for me to
see where the why the money is going on the
over right now, all that being said, I'm kind of
with you. I think twenty eight ten, I could even

(37:41):
see like a thirty one to ten, but which we
get you close? But yeah, twenty eight to ten Texans
over the Cardinals. And it's just I just I'm really
interested why. But I mean, Vegas makes money because of
things like that, right, they're you know they all those

(38:02):
casinos didn't pay for themselves. We did, and so that
that'll be what's interesting to kind of watch. We mentioned
the passing yards, right, Jacoby's lines at two thirty four
and a half. He's never thrown as a starter for
less than two fifty eight. Is this the week?

Speaker 3 (38:22):
I would yeah, I would guess. I mean, I don't know.
There are a lot of empty yards that they could
have late in the game with Michael Wilson and Trey McBride,
And I wonder if the coverage of Wilson is going

(38:43):
to change to where they start rolling coverage his way
because my guess, you know, I haven't looked at this,
but teams defend Marvin Harrison Junior differently than they defend
Michael Wilson, And yeah, I don't. I here's here's the
other thing. Is he gonna play the whole game to

(39:05):
be able to get that anyway? Then too, I don't
there's no defensive props, but how many times are you
gonna get hit? This is this is one of those
games where it might be a seven sack thirteen hit
game and he has to come out sometime in the
second half, so there's no chance he'd hit his he'd
hit the over well.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
And that begs the question, you know, if they if
the money is on Houston obviously to cover the money's
on the over, but the Cardinals under are they thinking
Jacoby doesn't make it through the game? Like? Is that
kind of because even in the even in the Seattle
and San Francisco games where they were down five scores,

(39:47):
it was still the Jacoby Show, right, Like a lot
of teams, let's be honest, most teams in those situations,
we'll go to the next guy. So it's it's interesting
that the two thirty four and a half because it, yeah,
that's the lowest amount on the season. And then you

(40:10):
look at it too. Pass completions, his over unders at
twenty two and a half, that's something like good.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Then you go to attempts, it's thirty eight and a half.
I'm like, you'd think he'd be over that. I don't know, Like,
are they gonna run enough? Like are they going to
run enough place? Because that's the one thing like if
they're getting shut down and shut down and shut down,

(40:38):
they just simply won't have the number of plays to
get to forty passing forty passing attempts slash the number
of times he gets he has to scramble or get
sacked to you know, if he drops back, if he
drops back forty five times. But I don't know this,

(40:59):
I'm trying. I don't love any of the passing props
for this game.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
What do you think about rides over It's at six
and a half, and the money's on him to have
more than six and a half catchers, which is kind
of wild to me.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
I don't know, Like here here's here's one I like,
and and that's Jalen Noil Jalen Nole for over one
and a half receptions and because you get plus one thirty.
My favorite, my favorite props are the ones that are
that are you know, you only need a little bit

(41:40):
to get some plus money. And Michael, like Michael Wilson
over four and a half of minus one fifty five, Like,
I mean that makes you not want to bet it.
I'm like, that's an easy but like why did why
didn't they put it up it?

Speaker 1 (41:54):
You know, but but that's the thing. So they go
to five and a half and it's plus money, so
like they don't see it this week. They don't see
it with Wilson this week. And what's really interesting about
the Wilson situation is that we've talked about it when
he's when he's being forced the ball like that, it's

(42:21):
it's a lot of catching tackles, right Like, it's a
lot of fifty to fifty balls. There's a lot of athletic,
impressive plays from Wilson. So the question becomes if he's
getting those if he's gonna hit the over, right, so

(42:41):
five plus you feel like he's gonna hit the yards then,
which is sixty one and a half, right, Like it
just it doesn't seem like it would be possible that
he'd have six, you know, five or six catches for
less than sixty yards, because as he's been the guy

(43:04):
in these in these three games, he's averaging twelve plus
yards per reception. And what's more impressive, Jess, is he's
averaging over eight yards per target, so or sorry over yeah,

(43:25):
right around eight and a half yards per target. So
if they give him, because he's never had less than
fifteen as the man, so let's just cut that down,
like you said, less possessions, les less success to twelve.
Even at his worst, which is eight yards per target,

(43:47):
that's still ninety sixty yards. Like the sixty one and
a half is another thing. So, like you said, they
they're feeling they're feeling froggy with this Cardinals offen having
been so productive in terms of yards that they're not

(44:11):
that they think that they're like, these numbers are going
to get a lot of people to hit the over,
which is always what makes me nervous, right, Like, when
they set a fishy line like that where where it
just seems like it doesn't make sense. You like, it's
your money, you know, obviously, But from Jess and I's perspective,

(44:33):
sixty one and a half, I don't love it. And
the reason why I don't love it is why is
that the line? It makes no sense. In all three
games where he's been without Marvin Harrison Junior, he's averaging
one hundred and thirty or one hundred and forty five
yards per kame and they're setting the line at sixty

(44:53):
one and a half, Like it just that stinks, like
there's something that we're not seeing out of that. Would
you not agree?

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (45:02):
That's it's it's almost like this is where the where
they turned into a pumpkin this week?

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Right and game? Yeah? And to be fair, that wouldn't
be shocking, right, this is the best defense in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Right, this could be This could be a twenty seven
to game. It really could. It could be. They could
be that bad.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
At one hundred percent, just one hundred percent. This could
be a game where people go, ugh, I'm not sure
about your Kobe, Like maybe we maybe we're off on
this one, right, Oh, maybe Michael Wilson is not Randy
Moss or Jerry Rice whoever, the comp is uh when

(45:43):
he doesn't have Kyler or sorry when he doesn't have
Marv there. So so that's you know, kind of what
you look at from that. But yeah, man, this is
a tough one because you don't see any you don't
see any positives where they're going to win this game.
And so the most impressive thing would be just if

(46:04):
they won the game, Like, even if it was the
ugliest game ever, if they won this game would be shocking.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
It would be it would be I do, like, give
me the alternate receiving yards one hundred plus for Nico
Collins a plus two hundred, Just give it to me.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Yeah, I would agree with that. So how many receptions
are you thinking? Is he going to go over his?
Because they have his his over under at five and
a half, So you think which is plus money on FANDL,
So you think he's gonna go over that?

Speaker 3 (46:37):
Then yes, I do, I do.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Yeah, So what do you so? It's plus two ten
on FANDLE for one hundred plus yards.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
So look, okay, Fandel, guys, you get plus odds on
the on the receptions and on the hundred plus, that's good.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Yeah, And that's one where you could you know, you
can even fire those as a small parlay, right, Like
you get that, you get that, you know, plus two
thirty five combined, so you get it even a little
more juice if you really like Nico in this one.
Does Jacobe get two passing touchdowns? I know you and
I say no, But the fact that that's plus two

(47:15):
hundred is is legitimately wild because there's no way that
they score two touchdowns unless it's through there, right, yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
Yeah, Well, and here's the other one, minus one sixty
five that he throws a pick.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
I know, that's crazy numbers. It's crazy. It's it's crazy thing.
This is the first time in a long time just
that I've seen anytime touchdown numbers. And obviously I'm talking
for the Cardinals, not for the Texans like they used
to be back when Fandle first started. Because Michael Wilson's
plus two to ten any time touchdown, Bam Knight's like

(47:56):
plus two fifty. When was the last time I run it?
Like the lead running back was plus two fifty to score.
It doesn't happen anymore, right, And so That's the thing
is like McBride's the highest at plus one or the
lowest I guess technically at plus one sixty for the
anytime touchdown scores like that is a why again, that's

(48:19):
a wild, wild number for McBride just based on what
he's done this year, what he you know, what he's
been able to do. This is a game where all
the lines for the Cardinals on the Cardinals side of
things are really really fishy, and so they're either they're

(48:41):
either going to go broken this one because people are
going to hammer the overs on Jacoby Michael Wilson trade
McBride because they've been hitting almost every week. Now. McBride
didn't do great last week, but they you know they
might they you know, he was under all of his
his numbers that he's at his lines this week, but

(49:05):
they're like there, this is this just feels like a
bait week where they're setting these lines lower than what
we're used to seeing. And I think they're just gonna
make a ton of money on people going like, oh,
Jacoby's throwing for over two hundred and thirty four and
a half yards every week, Why wouldn't I bet more?
You know, why would I bet that they hit. And

(49:27):
then they're like, thanks, appreciate the donation. So so here
here's the thing. A defensive touchdown by Houston, Like it's
only plus five fifty. Yeah, that's I say, take I
make that bat guys, But you aren't those usually like
plus seven hundred and more and above yeah yeah yeah.
Usually if you get them under under seven fifty, it's

(49:53):
it's you're like what and so that that's what I'm saying. Man,
this is a like the Cardinals don't have a plus
two art sorry, a two plus touchdown score under plus
one thousand like McBride's plus thirteen hundred to score two touchdowns,

(50:13):
which is again an absurd number, like it's and then
they basically like said, the chances of any Cardinals player
scoring three touchdowns is like landing on the moon. So
you know, it's this is a week where it's just
it's really hard to see any success for the Cardinals

(50:39):
because the lines just they're they're baiting you, They're they're
daring you to be like, hey, take this line. Yeah,
Jacoby's over unders a little fishy. Yeah, Michael Wilson's over unders,
little fishy. Why wouldn't you bet it. Why wouldn't you
bet him to get over sixty one and a half yards.
He's averaging one hundred and forty five yards without Marvin Harrison.

(51:01):
Come on, sixty one and a half. That's nothing.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Yeah, this is sorry, guys, if you're looking for hope,
we normally provide a little bit of hope for this
on this show, on this podcast where we have now
at seven hundred and twenty eight episodes, and guess what
there is none? Sorry guys, but yeah, but make some money,

(51:27):
make some money on some little little bets. You know,
I like rushing. They don't even have they don't even
have anything for Sam Night nothing nothing. No.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
By the way, if if and when you get sack
props absolutely hammer, Danielle Hunter and Will Anderson both have here.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Give me this one, Jacoby percent over two and a
half rushing attempts. Oh yeah, so's leek. All right. Yeah.
So with that, we will wrap up this edition of
the Rise of to your podcast, the best of Cardinals Talk,
and we've ever got one more show later this week
with Kate Thompson over the Texans wire As we'll have

(52:10):
an opponent preview. But until then, Seth and I will
be back next week talking about what hopefully isn't too
much of a disaster. But until then that's seth Cox.
I'm Jesserey. Thanks for listening. As always, we'll be back
again soon.

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