The Rounds - Episode 1 - February 19th, 2025

On the debut episode of "The Rounds" TJ De Santis welcomes in Brandon Mccaghren, Matt Elkins and Keelan Lawyer to talk about a variety of subjects. This week on "Buy or Sell" the guys discuss whether or not the GFL is a viable business model and what fan's expectations should be. Plus, they get into whether or not you can become a better martial artist by actually taking time away from training. They also preview this weekend's UFC card that sees Henry Cejudo battle Song Yadong in the main event. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Cold Soul is on fire.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Oh goodness, it's the Rounds and all new podcasts here
from the mind of one b Mac Randon mccatherine.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Hey, everybody, I'm teg to say this.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
B Mac is with me as well, broadcasting live from
the Caterer, Alabama. And if we didn't have enough Southern
flavor here on your new favorite podcast, we also got
your boy, Matt Elkins hanging out. Is it safe to say,
b Mac that Matt is the looks of the operation?

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Oh well, if it's up to me and you to
be the looks, that's that's not good. That's actually exactly
why I invited him to be a part of this.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
I'm also a big fan of the Matt Elkins Morning Voice.
Can we hear that?

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (00:52):
That thing has got a little extra flavor down there
in the bottom of it.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
I didn't like that you kind of cleared the flavor
out of your throat right there.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
That was that was disgusting.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
I'll try to keep it right back down there where
you want to man.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
All right, Well, gentlemen, we're here. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
This is something that b mac and I have talked
about doing for far too long, and then always something
got in the way.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
But we're motivated. We're here.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
We're hitting the ground running or we're hitting the ground crawling.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
I guess, b MAC, it's baby steps.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, it's baby steps. Listen. We've got some stuff we're
gonna have to work out, but I feel pretty good
about the setups. DJ, you don't look that good, but
your setup looks great. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
You know, you put money into an operation and you
can only make it look so good.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
It's like you're just sing a turd brute force. Yeah, yeah, you.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Like that boy from the Master Disgui has been eating.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Good turtle turtle, turtle.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
All right, ladies and gentlemen. That does it for the
first episode of the round. I'm starting to realize what
I just entered into and it's not gonna be good
for you now.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Mistake, Oh absolutely, without question.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
I've always said that doing a podcast will only cost
me a job and not get me one. So, uh,
filling out those unemployment papers as we speak.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Well, what are you?

Speaker 1 (02:15):
What are you worried about? TJ?

Speaker 3 (02:16):
What everything?

Speaker 2 (02:17):
We've been on the air for a minute and a
half and it's clear that I've already made a giant mistake.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
Oh, TJ, we understand you could just you could just
have me nipped. You know, you could have me at
the bottom of a river, so to speak.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
You know, so, don't you.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Know, I don't know what that means, but I'm gonna
gonna go with it.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Like the mob.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
Just okay, and then Matt Elkins disappears off the bottom
of the screen forever.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
So if this is the last time that we see
and hear Matt Elkins and you're looking for a suspect,
I did it.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
I'm excited about the you know what else, I'm excited
about the dude, let's.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
See the risk cam. I'm ready for it.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Extreme close up wall.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
It's see, this is what happens when you give b
mac too many toys. I mean, let's be honest, B
Mac would not probably be able to get out of
bed without keeling.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Generally speaking, keeling is not in my bed.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
No.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
No, the reason that you're able to get out of
bed and be functional.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
That's behind the paywall.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
That's a good point, b Mac.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
You want to tell people what they can get if
they are members of your YouTube channel.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Well, you know, it's just it's whipping right there across
the bottom of your screen. You become a member of
this channel, and you too could become a brad Eater
for only ninety nine cents a month. Here on the
YouTube channel, you can become a brad Eater custom emojis.
We're talking about behind the scenes content. We're talking about
some members only seminars, my instructional courses, all kinds of stuff,

(03:54):
and then you know, it goes up from there.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
There you go check it out.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Isaac knows Keeling on camera. This is a big deal.
We got Keelan to agree to be on camera. That's
a pretty big deal. Hey, listen, if you're watching, if
you're joining us, feel free to give this thing a
share across your Instagram, across your you know, your homie
group chats and stuff, because let's be honest, we know
nobody's looking at your Instagram stories, nobody's watching your Instagram stores,

(04:21):
so might want to send it in the group chat.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, definitely do all of that help us. And I
think this is gonna turn out to be something good.
If you don't know, it's called the Rounds and we're
kind of doing the rounds talking all things combat sports,
makes mortial arts, jiu jitsu. Keilan wants us to be
Ringworm Radio. He just everything in our show prep. He's like, yeah,
let's let's talk about jiu jitsu, and we're gonna talk
about jiu jitsu, but I don't want to know about

(04:46):
Ringworm and I feel like it's gonna come up.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
I feel like the name Ringworm Radio would have been
pretty good, to be honest with you, Matt had a
good one too. Matt had Grapple Chapel and I thought
that was pretty good. If we did it on Sundays,
that would be perfect.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
I'm still in the works, boys, we'll see.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
And that's the thing. I think this is gonna flash
itself out.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Would you say let the people decide?

Speaker 4 (05:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Why not? If you liked one? Yeah, if you like
bring Worm Radio better, let us know in the chat.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
We're gonna be throwing up some comments throughout our broadcast here,
So if you want to share your thoughts, opinions, ask
a question, do that. But we've got a few segments
that we're gonna get to and the first one we're gonna.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Kick off is buy or Sell. Look at that.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Right on cue Keelan pushing buttons and making the I
feel like a pro here. Normally it's just me trying
to you know push buttons and I hardly know what
I'm doing, but Keelan pulls it off much better, so
I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
And dude, let's be honest, doesn't look like the dude
for Master of Disguise? Is it just me? Or is
Matt Elkins already frozen? Was that just me?

Speaker 2 (05:52):
I'm looking at the camera and Matt's beautiful face.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
I'll get to try.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
A frozen Yeah, just for a second. It's okay, should
get through it.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
Like I said, there's a there's a little fellow on
a hamster will out back keeping this internet going.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
I believe a couple more biscuits.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
I believe it all right.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
So first segment, Buy or Sell. We give you a topic,
we decide whether or not we buy or sell. The
topic on this episode is the GFL.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Is it the Global Fight League? I think that's what
it is.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
I believe it's the Global Fight League.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, and all new organizations that's been making waves as
of late with basically on Instagram just putting up their
logo with a athlete that we're all familiar with and
it says signed to the GFL. It's a team based
concept supposed to be kicking off here in April of
twenty twenty five. They've got big names Junior Dosanto, Fabricio,
over Doom, Tyrone, Woodley, Sage, Northcutt, Page van Zant, a

(06:49):
lot of familiar names, and uh, you know, to me,
it's not a new idea. You know, the league based
concepts in combat sports have been around for years. Ultimately, Uh,
they end up failing before they succeed. And this concept
it's coming out swinging, but I don't know if any

(07:11):
of those punches are going to land. B MAAC your
thoughts in the GFL and just the team based concept, Like,
guess when it comes to mixed martial arts, is it
something you believe in?

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Well, obviously I believe in team based combat sports, but
I don't know if I believe in team based MMA.
It's that's that's the thing that we've seen fail over
and over with the IFL. The IFL was a great idea, dude, Yeah,
idea of the GFL is a great idea. Damn. I'm

(07:46):
I'll be honest with you. I'm selling a couple of
things though that I'm buying about the gfluh, the draft,
the color scheme, the idea, basically all the things that
I feel they straight copied from the PGF. I'm buying
all those things I feel like I feel like they want.

(08:07):
Maybe this is crazy, but I feel like they watched
what we did with the PGF and just straight took
it from us.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
And then wrapped in they.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
There are things I think you can buy about it.
The marketing you can buy into. But if you're someone
who has followed mixed martial arts for more than you know,
five to ten years, this is nothing new. We saw
the AFL a few years ago, the American Fight League.
They came out, did the same thing, said they were
going to sign athletes to one hundred thousand dollars contracts.
They never put on a show. You mentioned the IFL.

(08:42):
The IFL was really good for a couple of reasons
during its time.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
I don't think it was.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Successful for a variety of reasons. But you know, they
did have teams that were actually teams. Patlatic was the
coach of the Quad City Silverbacks. I think they were
called which they should have just been called Militant Fighting Systems,
but that was a real team. The issue that I
have here with the GFL is first off, that the
team based concept in combat sports doesn't work. I think

(09:10):
when it's mixed martial arts because of concussive blows.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
You you can't do it every weekend.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
You can't.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
And you know, talking about the PGF, I think the
PGF concept works for a variety of reasons, but one
is you're not getting hit in the face. You're not
getting you know, concussions, You're not getting things that are
going to prevent you from being able to do appearance
after appearance if you have one tough fight. Also, the

(09:36):
thing that I like about the PGF that I think
is going to be an issue with the GFL is
you're drafted to a coach. You're with your team all week.
It's one week you get drafted in the GFL. Are
you really a part of a team? Do you know
your coach? I called an MMA promotion I think in
twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen that was team based and
we all met in Atlantic City for the first show.

(09:57):
It was way and day and I was like, so
what's it like working with your coach? And they're like,
I haven't met him yet. Wait, what how are you
gonna go out there and be a part of a
team when you haven't even met your coach yet. And
that's where I struggled because I mean, that's the thing.
There are stars on this GFL roster. They're not going
to pick up and go, you know, move and be

(10:18):
with their new team.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
And that's the issue.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
I think that is something that comes up time and
time again, like how much are you willing to sacrifice
in nixed Martial arts for a team based concept when
that team record that's not gonna follow your career on
your sure Dog fight finder page, on your tapology page,
if you lose a fight that's gonna follow you forever,
or if you win a fight that's gonna follow you forever.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
If you know that you have.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
The ability to maybe win a fight by decision, which
is two points in the GFL, but your team needs
a knockout, are you really going to sacrifice a win
that's gonna follow you forever for potential gamble that is
going to haunt you forever.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
I don't think how much money is on the line,
to be honest with you.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Yeah, and that's the question.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
You know, there's big names that are signed, there's obviously
price tags that come with that, but is it realistic
that a promotion that's coming out. You know, this aggressive
has that bank. We don't know where the money is
coming from. They don't have a television deal. You know,
they're they're making waves, but does that translate to money?

Speaker 3 (11:21):
No, I don't think so. I gotta sell that all.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Day, do you think, Matt?

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Yeah, I think it's a hard sale.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
It looks like a shack you day board of just
YouTube fighters are just gonna come and cherry pick these
dudes off. There are some legitimate guys, like there are
some guys that are still about it that are in there,
and there are definitely some matchups that I think that
are gonna that are gonna pop up, you know, like
seeing some of these guys have a matchup against Dylan Danis,
Like am I gonna Am I gonna tune in to
watch that? Like, yeah, I'm gonna check some of them out,

(11:50):
but I'm not gonna follow it closely like a sports league.
It's just there's not It's it's just not gonna produce
what I think they wanted to produce. I think it's
just a classic case of like oh, somebody watches from
the sideline, they see someone be successful and they're like, well,
I could just copy that guy's playbook and now I'm

(12:11):
gonna be successful, and it kind of, uh, in my opinion,
is disrespectful to assume the success that they're gonna have
when the UFC did so many things for so many
years to become what they are, and so I don't
they're not gonna compete with the UFC, so they're in
my opinion, it's it's not really a by situation.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
I'm saying, can you even compete with the UFC at
this No?

Speaker 5 (12:34):
No, And it's it's kind of senseless to even try to,
like the taking a different angle like the YouTubers, like
doing some cross you know, some boxing and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Cross promotional stuff might might happen, but man, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
I do want it to work because the fighters, Like,
if the fighters had more places to go and make money,
then obviously that would be great, and I would totally
advocate for the athletes getting taken care of.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
It's another empty promise for me, I'm selling.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
And here's the thing you said, b Mac that you're
you're gonna watch it. If Dylan Danis is finding someone,
You're you're gonna watch it. But the question is you're
gonna pay for it because this is a time where
there's so much market saturation in MMA that the idea
of putting money down for maybe less than seller fights
or maybe just one fight card when there's a UFC
fight card that say stacked, you know that same week

(13:26):
that if you already have you know your ESPN Plus
subscription is right there. You're already paying for it. You
don't necessarily have to put extra money down. You mentioned
you'll watch it b MAC, but would you pay for it?

Speaker 1 (13:37):
I don't think I'm gonna pay for the first couple
of iterations, like I want it to work, to be
honest with you, sure, I'd love the concept. It's just
so hard to make this, to make team things work
with MMA, And I think the reason that the teams
work with the PGF is that we have an end

(14:00):
visual element to it, like it goes to a playoff
where your individual performance during the season matters at the end.
So for for me, I'm not I'm gonna kind of
hold judgment. I'm holding the stock, but I'm not I'm
not selling everything right to go buy you know what
I'm saying. I'm holding in hopes that it goes up.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
I feel that and you know, one thing about the
PGF two that I like and why I think it
does work is it's all in one week you run
that gamblin. Don't get me wrong, There're gonna be people
that falls out, But every time someone falls out, there's
a hungry guy that wants to prove themselves and they
come in.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Here with the GFL Like.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Don't get me wrong, I think there are names on
this list that want to, you know, prove themselves. There
are some fighters that were in the UFC for not
very long that you know, you're not really they're not
satisfied I think with their MMA career. But then you
have a lot of guys that they're Hall of Famers
already the work has been put in. Are they going
to go out there and sacrifice you know, maybe they're

(14:59):
they're well being when they're already established.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
I want to put it to the people that are watching,
let us know if you're buying or selling. I think
that we all agree with the idea that if it works,
it's better for the sport as a whole.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
But you mentioned b MAC like you're not going to.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Necessarily watch or pay for the first couple of iterations.
We might not get a first couple of iterations. This
thing needs to come out, you know, landing quick and
effectively to make money to sustain themselves. And more often
than not, these shows they come out, they'll do one
or two three events. The one promotion that I said
that I did that was team based. They've done three

(15:34):
shows I think since twenty eighteen. You know, I think
they did one within the last six months. But it's like,
this is a sport where you have to have consistency
and you have to have continuity, and when you have
a big roster like this with big names that that
time it's gonna have to be one after another. They say, yea,
they have a show in April. There's no television deal.

(15:55):
We don't know what really is happening after April. And
I don't think anything is happening after April if they
don't have a TV partner in place.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
I mean, it just depends on their I guess there's
their strategy. It depends on also, like how much is
in the coffers. Are we dealing with the Lanisters here?
Like if they're the Lanisters, you know they got big backers.
They got a bunch of gold in the chest. Then
you can keep an idea running for a long time
with just like you said, with just brute force of

(16:24):
pushing the money out. And you know, uh, e Lopez arts.
I'm gonna go back to this comment here he said
they don't have the marketing. In my opinion, I think
their marketing has actually been their only strong point.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
So I agreed, agreed, because they're getting keep talking about it,
We're talking about it.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Yeah, Chad Gpt does great work.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
And here goes Isaac here coming in. Why did everyone
hate the AI video so much? Because I was just
about it. I think the reason that people hated it
was because it was terrible, Like it looked pretty crazy.
They had Homeboy riding in on a horse. I wish,
I wish we had the video to play. I I

(17:04):
didn't quite vibe with the AI. And I'm a dude
who's like, I'll lean towards a Keelan hates AI videos
and pictures and stuff like that, and I don't. I
think they're usually cool. This one didn't land for me,
you know, b.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Mack, I'll never forget a cab ride that I took
with you in Las Vegas on our way to the
Fight pas Inditational, and you showed me chat GPT for
the first time and it had been out for like
forty eight hours.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Dude, I was I was on Chat GP. I was
on the GPT too, before people even knew what was
going on. I've been in on the AI scene for
a minute, dude. I love this kind of stuff.

Speaker 5 (17:46):
Also, they they did an atroacuous job and that was
a little worrisome.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Oh my gosh, got it right here.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
Is this is a horror movie that's safe.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Okay, the AI is living up to the building right now.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Hey, listen. Here's the thing though, man, Like, they have
some guys on here that I still want to see fight.
And that's one thing that I do buy about this.
I still want to see some of these guys fight.
Like I want to see hen and Morale fight again.
I want to see Chris Widman fight again. I want
to see Tyron Woodley fight again.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Can I just say that the Gladiator man touch is
really nice, but I'm I'm missing that hot hot Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
I mean it's definitely a throw a throwback to a
marketing that's the UFC already abandoned a way. You know,
it's it's back to that and listen by yoursel page
van Zant. You know what I'm saying. I'm I'm buying
her fighting again. I'm not necessarily buying her only fans content,

(18:58):
but I'm buying. I'm buying and to see her fight
against Showgun on a horse.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't know like there are
Let me just go down some of the names here
and you tell me if you're interested in them fighting,
because I think there are some hits and misses with
some of these signings.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Let's do this, TJ. As you hit a name, Me
and Matt and Keelan just come in with a buy
or sell. That's all we get to say in response.
Bye if you want to see him fight, sell if
you don't.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Care, all right, let's go with Ta Miami. We're gonna
hit everybody on this list. They're heavyweights. Junior Dos Santos,
Bye bye, Healing, Oh buy him all right? Rebella's to Spain. Bye, Okay,
So that's good. First two buys, that's good. Uh they're
light heavyweights. Uh Tiago Maheata Santos so.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
Bye, no idea.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
I'm selling because I'm selling because he I was cornering
Eric Anders in Brazil when he beat my boy up up.

Speaker 5 (20:00):
So I'm selling we hate his guts for that, but
that doesn't mean that I don't want to watch him
do that to somebody else that I don't love.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
You know what I'm saying watching.

Speaker 5 (20:10):
Watching that fight with my boy Eric Anders absolute gangster
and shout out to the boy the money Eric Anders
for his masterful performances in the uf.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
And C and and buy or sell this Matt Eric
one of the most quick witted guys in the m
M A scene.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
The fact that the GFL isn't that they're going to
try to pick Eric Anders up as soon as he's
done in the UFC, They're going to try to throw
some money at my boy.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
And my man knows numbers.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
He's your boy.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
He's your boy.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Oh yeh boy.

Speaker 5 (20:42):
Okay, technically I might have bestowed that nickname upon him,
your boy Eric Anders.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah, but I little fact, but you call everybody your boy.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
But that's how it went, Okay, how it goes.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
I like it. Joel Romero, Bye bye. I'm selling. I
watched him.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
Fight until he's eighty years old, bro, will you though?

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Because sometimes he doesn't fight, Sometimes he just comes out
there and stands.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
There sometimes, but then every once in a while he
takes those sunglasses off, looks the camera in there and
gives one of those Instagram reels that I really like.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
And sometimes he goes, no vuget Jesus, okay, stop hard
stop right now, we need that again.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Beat Mac on the risk cam okay, no bulgete. And
that is why the Rounds? Is you your favorite podcast?
Ladies and gentlemen, all right, Hector Lombard.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
So so, all right, fair gleas and teabow so so.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
I was selling him when he was in the UFC
Jeremy Jeremy Stevens.

Speaker 5 (21:55):
Bye, I like, I'll buy the whoda fool? Is that
guy definitely paying attention. He's been doing some bare knuckle.
I've really enjoyed watching him in the b KFC.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Uh Yo, Am I hearing Connor McGregor versus Jeremy Stevens
and bar knuckle? Am I hearing that correct?

Speaker 2 (22:12):
I mean you might be. You might be hearing it,
and a lot of people would like to buy it.
But let's not forget Connor McGregor, a UFC athlete. There's
no way they're letting that happen.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
None didn't he buy part of bar Knuckle?

Speaker 3 (22:26):
He did, but he can't. His fighter rights are still.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
What his cut was, Like how much of it does
he own?

Speaker 3 (22:33):
What is no idea? No idea?

Speaker 2 (22:35):
But I remember there was that video where he was
talking about doubling bonuses and his partner David Feldman's in
the background going like, doubling bonuses.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Anthony Pettis, Bye bye love, Anthony Pattis, Charles.

Speaker 5 (22:54):
Rosa, that's my boy. So I'm buying because because he
my boy.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
You know what I'm saying, You.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Sign if you don't have a bunch of other guys
like Anthony.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
Pettis, like Charles Ross, the guy that kills.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Out your roster and is a concept that you can
try to get mine in Mark.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
He's also trying to stay active, like he's been trying
to look for fights. He's been trying to work his
way up promotions and stuff like that. He's a guy
that's gonna get out there and run it really, really hard.
I'll take it.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Kats and Ghano cell so hege van Zan, I.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Mean real talk.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
So yeah, I mean who's she fighting?

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, I mean so I feel that Fabricio Overdoom So.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah. So Shogun Hua bye bye, because I think he
I think he's willing to die.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Okay, that's true.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
But do you feel comfortable with a guy that is
clearly on the backside of his career taking that kind
of punishment when he has that kind of heart, Because
that's something.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
I no, No, I always feel comfortable with that because
it's not my choice, it's his choice. I always feel
comfortable with somebody that's willing to go out there and
die on their show. I always feel comfortable with that.
If I'm the Brandon, should I fight? You're my friend? Okay,
let's me and you talk about it. But if you
made the decision and you're taking the punishment, who am

(24:29):
I to sell for you? If I would love to
watch him fight? Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
The tricky Pitbull Fredae Hey, I'll.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Buy that one.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
I'm going to sell that one, all right, let's keep
going here. Alexander Gustilson, Bye.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
I feel like he still got I feel like there's
still some meat on the bone there.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
The next name I'm gonna say I would buy all day,
and I would like to see him back in the UFC.
And that's key Garbu Sasci Oh bye.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
Yeah, Yeah, that's the biggest, that's one of the biggest
buys on the entire things. Gay Guard absolutely about it.
I mean, obviously he's probably on the back nine as well.
This is the back nine league that they're starting here.
But Gay Guard is an absolute savage you see.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
That's the thing there. There's definitely like a senior league
to the GFL. That vibe is there, and there are
some veterans that I still think are worthwhile. There's a
big difference in my feelings sorts of guy like Fabricio
over Doom and a guy like gay Garden Sassi.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
Yeah, yeah, I'm with the old guys getting paid, man like,
I love to see it, rooting for it, but definitely
not investing. Not gonna pull my money out a bitcoin
to drop it in the GFL.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Here's a buye for for b Mac. I know he's
gonna buy this one. Alan Belcher, Oh that's.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
You know, that's my dude. Yeah, you know that's my boy,
Big B definitely buying and why why Yes, he's my boy.
You know he's in the best shape of his life.
He's a heavyweight now. Yeah, he won the bare knuckle
heavyweight title. He's out there getting after it as good
as he was when he was like in line for

(26:08):
the one eighty five title in the UFC. He's probably
in better shape than he was. Then that's a buye.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
Alan Allen's got a pretty cool story, man.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
I definitely would be interested to watch him get in
the mix in some of the heavyweight fights.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
All Right, so here's when for you already said you'd
be interested in it. I want not only a buy
or sell on his participation in the GFL, but his
his stock.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
We almost do stock up stock down on this.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
But Dylan Danis is he a bye for the GFL
and is he a bye as an actual relevant mixed
martial artist?

Speaker 5 (26:40):
He's a bye because I want to watch him get
knocked out one hundred and I feel like that's the
only thing.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
Like. I also feel like he might have been on
drugs or being.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
Being systematically broken down by the deep state or something
like that. I'm excited to see how he faces that.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
And yeah, I'm buying that fight just to watch the demise.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Honestly, it's not a it's not a buye for me really,
even about his fighting skill or or the age that
he is or where he's at in his career. It's
a bye for me because he makes you want to
buy the fight because he's crazy. Wanting to watch him
has nothing to do with his fighting skill. For me,

(27:28):
I just like the circus. I'm a crazy fights guy.
So sign me up. Sign me up for Bob Sapp
versus Dylan Dannis.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Dude, here's one for you, here's one for you. Todd Duffy.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
I think for me that's a bye because he always
had so much potential.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Correct, But I mean, at this point, Todd Duffy is
thirty nine years old.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Guys like, yeah, well I'm forty five, so that's a
young buck.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
No, that's your perspective of a young buck. That's not
That doesn't make it real. Perception and reality are not
too different or very much two different things.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
I'm not gonna tune in because Todd Duffy is headlining
a card, but like he could.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Fill the other role in the fight.

Speaker 5 (28:18):
You know, if it's like an Alan Belcher versus Todd
Duffy or something like that, that could get interesting for me.
But if he's fighting, if Todd do Duffy's fighting a
no name type person.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Okay, but no one.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Here's the way it is for me. With most of
these guys, I'm not tuning in to the GFL to watch, Like, oh, shoot,
Todd Duffie's on the card, that's not gonna make me watch.
But hey, Gegar Musassi versus Alan Belcher will make me watch,
And then if Todd Duffy's on the card, I'll keep watching.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Okay, what I'm saying, let's get down to brass tacks here.
First fight from GFL.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
If it was a pay per view and it was
forty nine, what have they got to put on for
you to put that money down?

Speaker 1 (29:01):
They gotta have Musauc versus fad Or.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
I watched that grappling match in Kansas City like a
decade ago.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
That happened.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
Yeah, every one of these guys that we just mentioned
all have to be in a battle Royale style fight
for me to pay fifty bucks.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Okay, that's a couple of cards of eggs. Brother, what
are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Okay, So what if we made that actual battle royale concept,
but with AI and all their likenesses?

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Sell?

Speaker 5 (29:31):
Okay, yeah, I gotta I gotta sell the ah, what
are they going to do with their hands?

Speaker 1 (29:37):
I'm selling going down the rest of this list to
be honest with you. Here's what I want to buy
or sell. I want to buy or sell this comment
right here. Jones is dodging aspinall proved me wrong? Buy
or sell, Joe buyers. Jones is dodging tom aspinall.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
I sell it all day long.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
I sell because what what John is doing is making
sure that whenever that fight happens, he's getting the most
money for it.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Because that money sound effect? Where's that money sound effect?
I need that one?

Speaker 4 (30:10):
Should she? Yeah, I definitely think that. I definitely think that.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
That's an absolute, an absolute lie. John Jones is not
scared to fight tom aspinall. I mean, he just it's
it's is it a risk of his game? Like a
gamble of his legacy? I mean, yeah, anytime you step
in there, it's a it's a gamble. But like I
think that a lot of people thought that, uh, he
was gonna have some real trouble with like a serial

(30:36):
gone type dude, and I just I mean, he just
dispatched of him. And I don't see tom aspinall keeping
up like that.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
I just don't.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, I mean I picked Cyril Gune in that fight
and was horribly mistaken.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
But like that that's the thing about John, and he
mentioned legacy matter, Like, dude.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Stop what you're saying right now?

Speaker 3 (30:57):
TJ?

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Are you telling me? Are you telling me that you
really thought the fight was gonna go down that way? Dj? I.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
So here's here's my question that I had for John.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
And it's been answered a little bit since the serial
gun fighting the steepe, but not a whole bunch.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
I don't know what John Jones looks like at.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Getting hit at heavyweight from a real heavyweight hitter, and
he got hit a lot at you know.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
What Cyril Gone looks like.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Correct, I thought Cyrel Gone? Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Stop.

Speaker 5 (31:30):
I must also say that I I don't want to
call it hype serial moves.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
He's an amazing heavyweight fighter.

Speaker 5 (31:37):
I definitely thought that he was gonna float like a
butterfly in a way that John Jones was not prepared for.
But man, that his just instincts and it's it's like
he he obviously is an amazing mixed martial artist, but
it's like checkers, not chess. Just his ability to stand
there and pick punches and things like that. You know,

(31:58):
it's it's definitely underscored, underrated, and I think that he
would dispose of tom Aspinall very easily.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
We'll see what happens. I think that fight happens. Will
it happen in twenty twenty five, I think it will.
I think will happen probably late twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
But we'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
They're gonna figure out how many zeros they need to
add to that check, and until the right amount of
numbers are on that check, John's gonna probably play it down.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
I'm gonna pay forty nine to ninety nine just to
watch one fight on that card, John Jones versus Aspinall.
And then, like I said, you can miss me with
the with the GFL for fifty bucks.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
I promise you'll be paying more than forty nine ninety
nine for John tom Aspinall.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
I'll be excited about that.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Hey, listen, that's a one hundred dollars fight for me.
I would pay one hundred dollars to watch that one.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Sorry, this is for the very first time we have
one fight on a UFC card. It's Jones versus Aspinall,
and it's one hundred dollars. I'll be there. I'll kills
to watch it. Here's here's another buy or sell for
you out of the comments section. Let's buy or sell.
Bradley Martin beats Mighty Mouse in a no rules street fight.

(33:10):
This is not rage bait. He wants to know he's too.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
It is rage bait. Stop it. I scoff at the.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Wait what he that?

Speaker 5 (33:22):
Bradley Martin is gonna twose sixty his way to being
beating one of the greatest mixed martial artists of all
time against the black belt in jiu jitsu.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Like you, by the way, he's obsessed with jiu jitsu.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
Now, Jah, I don't know, man, I have. I definitely
recently had a huge Division one football player. He's like
three hundred pounds with abs and he came in and
I mean, brother, I mean it's not. He's definitely big

(33:57):
and strong and very promising. But like brad Martin, gonna
have to take a few classes before he started talking
sideways or he might catch the backside of Mighty Mouse.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
Is little Paul. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
I mean, Mighty Mouse is little paw. That got me.
That's good, that's good. You know.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Here's the thing size does matter, all right, let's just
isolate that. But looking at size and technique, that's when
size doesn't matter. If you're the bigger fighter in a
weight class and you're both in the UFC, because you're
the bigger fighter, you're gonna be, you know, having an advantage.

(34:36):
This is UFC one, This is you know, Hoys, Graciees
is Mighty Mouse. Bradley Martin is Taylor Tooley and uh,
you know too is probably gonna go flying.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
I think there's no chance Bradley Martin wins that fight.
He did clarify that he was talking about street fight rules,
which means no rules.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Right, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
I think that actually makes it worse for Bradley Martin
because when he gases out, he ends up with his
face in the concrete and he's getting like shin bone
into the side of a car, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah, all right, last gfl by or Sell, because I'm
curious your thoughts on two of these guys on Team
Los Angeles, Tony Ferguson and Sage north Cut.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Both of those By or Sell.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Give me just let's go with one of them first.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Yeah, yeah, we'll start with Tony Man.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
I got I gotta sell Tony was just and Tony's
my dude. I just don't think he's got it anymore.
As much as I hate to say it, I'm not
saying he ain't got it in the gym. I ain't
saying he ain't got it me versus Tony, you know
what I'm saying, nothing like that. But yeah, I mean,

(35:52):
if he still wants to fight, let him fight. But
buying or selling that pay per view, I'm not buying it.

Speaker 5 (35:59):
Yeah, a lot of the guys, like like some of
the Mike Tyson type fights, Like you know, you've wanted
them to be something that they're just not gonna be
and it winds up being like sad after the first
round or so, and like when it's a homie like that,
you don't want to see your homie going out like that.
And so in that sense, it's it's a Seale situation.

(36:21):
But am I there for the chaos if Tony Ferguson
does sign the contract and show up and he's gonna
be in there doing his thing, and yeah, I could,
I could possibly tune in on on that, you know.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
But so here's the thing. I don't feel like Mma
or Jiu jitsu or really anything has to be the
best versus the best. Like I'm not I'm selling Tony
Ferguson versus the top forty in OK. But I'm buying
Tony Ferguson versus a local black belt. You know what

(36:55):
I'm saying, Like, oh that because I'm gonna get a highlight.
What I want is oh my god moments, you know
what I'm saying. And Tony Ferguson's still capable of delivering
those with the right matchups. So that's the stuff that
I'm selling. I don't feel like it's got to be
the best versus the best to be entertaining. Otherwise nobody
would go buy a ticket to watch a high school

(37:16):
basketball game. They all suck. They're in high school, you
know what I'm saying, But nobody would watch college basketball.
Ninety percent of those dudes are not making the association.
But it's still great because it's it's appropriate matchups, you
know what I'm saying. I feel like there's still there's
still room for that kind of stuff. I'm selling any

(37:37):
of these dudes being the man though, Yeah, I'm buying
the right matchups.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Well, I think those expectations are tempered already. I mean
Tony Ferguson fighting in the GFL like his whole purpose
is to draw eyeballs, not to draw curious eyeballs on
whether or not he's the best in the world. It's
just I want to see a Tony Ferguson fight. Let's
move to Stage northcutt and I'm going to bring it
back to what I think both that these guys should
be doing after that.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
But Sage North Cut, GFL by or sell.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Bye, because still I think there's still some story to
be written on Sage north Cut, don't. We don't know
the Sage North north Cut story yet. We know that
Tony Ferguson story. We know that one right, Like the
Tony Ferguson story is Raiders of the Lost Art was sick,
Temple of Doom was sick, the Last Crusade was sick,

(38:25):
and he just made the Dial of Destiny and the
Crystal skulls, you know what I'm saying. Like we we
understand the Tony Ferguson story, but with Sage north Cut,
there could be a couple of good movies left in
the bank.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
We don't know.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
What was that diamond all the way polished before we
decided it wasn't as e valuable. I had to make
that reference for me because I've never seen an Indiana
Jones film.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
So whoa time out, Riz Cam, what did you say?
You've never seen an Indiana Jone.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
You're gonna come to find out that I have not
seen most movies that every person has seen.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Oh oh leave made Matt leave. He just sold the
whole program.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
He's like, I'm out, god bro, Sorry, all right, I
need in the comments. I need buy or sell. DJ
is an idiot, that's I'm an idiot.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
I was just a poor kid without cable and we
didn't go see movies.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Make me an idiot, Yes it does, Yes it does.
All right. So first of all, Keelan has never seen
any movie. Right, I've tried to get your boy to
watch Goodfellas, Godfather, never saw it. You're upset.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
You could play a game where you come up with
ten movies and whoever wins would be the person that's
seen those movies.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
And I bet you Keilan and I finished with a tie.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
I bet you Keilan seen Indiana Jones and he hasn't
seen anything Kielan.

Speaker 6 (40:05):
Due, No, I don't want to upset you but I
would never watch Indiana Jones.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
But you've never seen it.

Speaker 6 (40:14):
Like, I know what you're talking about, but I haven't
watched the movie.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
I watch it, I gladly watch it. I'm just to
sit down and watch it by myself.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
For a man with such a palette for storytelling, it
is outrageous that he has not seen some of the movies.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
That he's What do you mean you would never watch it?
What are you? What are you trying to say? Right there?

Speaker 5 (40:35):
The one would the Crystal Skull. I agree, let's not
waste our time with that thing.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Let's get Dollar Destiny, right.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
Yeah, I don't even I didn't even know that was
one of them.

Speaker 6 (40:44):
See, okay, I can make this take here without ever
seen that.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
I'm getting mad.

Speaker 6 (40:51):
The same movie and it's not even a good one.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Just so stupid. This is so stupid.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
I can't stand you, dude.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Everything she makes me upset. Oh my god, dude, lost.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
TJ Le's see if I can alienate you more. I
met George Lucas, but I've never seen Star Wars.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Actually, I actually recently.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Just watched Star Wars because I bought a video game
and I wanted some context.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Oh my god, You're fired. Bro. That's the dorkekest thing
I've ever heard.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
That.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
That's dorkier than.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
People who love Star Wars.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Again, I'm wondering why I agreed to this, but like I.

Speaker 5 (41:54):
Saw one of those cool little Stormtrooper rifles at somebody's
house and I was like, what is this and they
were like, this is from Starwards and I was like, let's.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
Give it a chance.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
You know guns, yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
And it yeah. But you know what you just said
that was outrageous to each.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Sorry, sorry, all right, it made it made my heart
beat check, Like I can feel my heart racing about you. Guys,
just totally taking a dump on Indiana Jones.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
The key to a good content creator or a fighter
or anybody in being successful is making the audience feel.
Doesn't have to be good or bad, but you have
to have them emote. So I'm doing my job.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
God, I'm raging inside.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Perfect perfect.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Well all right, did we get a Do we get
to buy or self from Matt on Sage north Cut?

Speaker 5 (42:39):
I definitely would like to probably buy because there might
be a little bit of story left. Like we talked about,
Sage is an incredible athlete, Like if you've seen him
do a backflip after.

Speaker 4 (42:49):
A you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (42:50):
Obviously, he's probably one of the most athletic dudes in
the roster, but I think that he does really really
well against proper matchups. Like if somebody's not scared of
Sage north Cut, then I think that he kind of
crumbles a little bit under the pressure.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
But if he's out there and he's feeling confident in his.

Speaker 5 (43:06):
Ability to take this guy out of there, he's gonna
put on an awesome and awesome performance highlight reel.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
I'm shaking my head at Parker's comment there, What do
you mean you expect this from TJ? Keeling's got to
get so I.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Can't even pay attention to what's happening right now. I
can't even pay attention.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Right Let me talk about something I feel like I
have a little expertise on because I've covered combat sports forever.
I would buy both Tony Ferguson in jiu jitsu and
I would buy Safe north Cut in karate combat infinitely
more than I would buy either of them competing in
mixed martial arts.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
I get down with that. I would love to see
Tony do some jiu jitsu. Yeah, that's see That's what
I feel like we need to be doing with the
guys that are in the GFL. Yeah, you know what
I mean, Like, Yo, let's put you guys on the
PGF instead, right, Like Yo, Tony Ferguson, that would be
the sickest thing ever. Yeah, I would look Oh my god,

(44:00):
I would freak out over that.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Yeah. Someone called wouldn't watch it.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Keelan wouldn't watch it.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (44:08):
I'm never getting over that. I'll never recover from that.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
All right, fair enough, Now some of the heat's been
taken off of me, so I feel good about it. God,
all right, you ready for a next segment?

Speaker 1 (44:18):
I guess dude. Honestly, I'm ready to quit this show.
I don't want to do this anymore.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Like b Mack wants to fight somebody, So why don't
we get ready to Warriors and maybe we can find
some willing sparring partners.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
He's the only Star Wars fan in here.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
They're Star Wars fans everywhere.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
But let's talk about Keyboard Warriors and what the segment's
all about. Basically, mixed martial arts, combat sports, jiu jitsu.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
It's all talked about on Reddit.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
We dive into what we're essentially calling the reddit files
and see what some of these keyboard warriors are saying. Obviously,
the most insane things are going to be covered here, because,
let's be honest, that's what the Internet is filled with
insane things.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
B Mac, Why don't you h tell us what you
found on Reddit?

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Well, you know, I don't even know that this is insane.
I just think it's a topic of discussion, you know.
Uh so the topic is not going to class but
still improving faster.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
I think that's insane to me.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Specifically, that's like you rolling in college and not going
but yeah, I'm getting smarter.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Specifically, they're talking about jiu jitsu obviously, So I'll just
read you the initial post and then we'll let you
guys make your own comments and then hit me up
in the chat let me know what you think. And uh,
this is it not going to class and improving faster
from blue to purple belt. I was on the mats
four days a week consistently recent. Yeah, this is I

(45:51):
hate this podcast already immediately. Jesus Christ.

Speaker 6 (46:00):
That's how you got to read the comment.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
It's not to you, it's the comment that's good.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
No, don't do that again. Don't do it again.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
I was buying that.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Yo, great idea, guys, let's kill the podcast on the
first episode. Great, y'all are brilliant.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Continue, What were we even doing? I watched Indiana Jones
later today, be Mad Gonna make You feel Better?

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yeah, I hate all four of you.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
Well, I read out, Yeah, I'm not gonna watch that trash,
but I'll read some cliff notes about it.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
You know, from Blue to Purple Belt. I was on
the map four days a week consistently for about three years. Recently,
I've been going to the gym's Open Matt. I took
the time I was doing jiu jitsu during the week
and started doing lifting and cardio. I also bought my
first instructional watch that throughout the week and go into

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Open Matt and intentionally work that content. I've noticed significan
improvements in my game in a very short amount of time,
not just enrolling, but in conceptual understanding as well. Has
anyone else experienced anything like this? I assumed I would
get worse not going to class as much. What's the
deal your thoughts?

Speaker 4 (47:14):
I feel like one of my students wrote this.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Like, hey, let him believe it Matt because if they're
still paying that monthly due, you know, the.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
Less I appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
I do appreciate that part, but that sounds like it
was written by the guy that when I'm tapping them
out with the same move that they were studying on YouTube,
they like, give me a loud, like audible cuss. You
know that's caught on the you know go you know,
rage quits after I tap him out four times in
a round. It's a you know, he's looking for validation.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Well, let me ask this question, because I think that
there is something to the idea of picking up technique
from watching instructionals now applying it is something that is different.
Only Kenzie once said the most ridiculous thing to me, ever,
in the sense that she's like, you've watched a lot
of MMA, you can probably defend yourself.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
What the hell are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Just because like I, I've seen people put on a
Darce doesn't mean I can do a dars you know
what I mean, Like I understand tactics and I understand
fight IQ, but that doesn't mean that I can impose that.
That doesn't mean that I can do anything with it.
I mean, I trained two decades ago, almost at this point,
and haven't trained since.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
I have not improved.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
I've just gotten around, added a couple of chins, two chins.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
You know, though, thank you, I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Hey, well we did our first like show mock up,
I looked like grew from Despicable Me. I might still,
but at least I got better lights and I'm not
sitting in the dark plotting to take over the world.
But again, I think you can take away some things
from watching, and if you are active le training, maybe
you know, watching can help you improve or make you
think outside the box or add different layers to your game.

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But not going to class and actually trying to apply things,
you're not gonna get better. Maybe you come back and
you have a better you know, time rolling for whatever reason.
Maybe it was just your day, But I don't think
that's indicative of you getting better as a martial artist.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Well, for me, it's like go ahead, Joe Brandon, No,
no you.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
For me, this this whole entire.

Speaker 5 (49:28):
Concept is like on Facebook, one of the things they
get me with is pottery videos.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
Brother sitting there and I just can't help it. I
gotta walk.

Speaker 5 (49:36):
I've seen hundreds of them I just can't help but
watch it. And then for me to assume to have
the audacity to assume that I'm just gonna hop on
a pottery wheel and just start building and making these
little intricate designs and stuff like that, it's just absolutely
it's complete malarkey, is what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
And so there's a good there's a good comment here
in the chat. It's a second one from the top.
I don't know if you can throw that out, because
I firmly believe that there's some truth to this that.
You know, if people are overtraining and then they take
some time off and they come back and they feel better,
they're gonna perform better.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
I think there's some truth to that.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
If you're on the mat four days a week, for sure,
you're not gonna feel as good as if you're coming in.
You know, after maybe a couple of weeks off, I
think that you might feel better, but it doesn't mean
that you're doing better.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
Well, get back to.

Speaker 5 (50:21):
Door dashing, bro Like these door dashers gotta they just
show up the class, you know what I'm saying, Like,
it's not like that.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
So here's what I think we're really talking about. Now,
let's this guy was said he was going four days
a week and he's a blue or purple belt. Right,
he's are blue. Let's see from blue to purple, and
he's showing that he is a purple. So okay, and
he's going four days a week. That's that's pretty good.
But is that enough to cover all the education that

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you need even if your coach is awesome, yes or no. No,
there's so much to learn, right, And even if your
coach is fantastic and you're training all the time, you're
still gonna have a ton of holes and a ton
of education and knowledge that you still have to take in. Right. So,
I think what instructionals do is that they supplement. And

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what do they supplement? They supple What instructionals do you watch?
The ones that you're interested in, the ones that you
feel like you have. I feel like I have a
hole right there. Well, if coach is not covering your
specific deficiencies in class and you're going out and gaining
that information, of course you're getting better. So to me,

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instructionals absolutely you can. I think without question, you can
watch instructionals only drill them and go to class or
go to just open mat and roll and get better.
I think there's no question about that.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Actually, I think they.

Speaker 5 (51:59):
Addressing the invisible jiu jitsu if you will, you know,
like there's just like you can watch it's it's like,
I'll use Jet Thompson for an example. Ben Hetty showed
me the video of Jet Thompson arm barring him the
exact same way that he did me in the PGF

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the night before. I was thoroughly warned, but that wasn't
the same thing as you know, feeling the young man
just whip his hip around and try to destroy my elbow.
But it's there's just an invisible nature to it. It's
just no different than any other type of video, like
I said, with the pottery video or weightlifting or climbing
or UFC jiu jitsu whatever, Like people watch it and

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they armchair quarterback it, and that keeps the sports alive.
We need those people to kind of believe in those things.
But it's a it's a lie one hundred percent of
the time.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Well it's a lie if you're not good already.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Yeah, you're telling me that.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Matt Elkins, you've been wrestling your entire life, you're a
former pro MM, you're a tenth planet jiu jitsu black
belt that's been training for how long have you been doing
jiu jitsu?

Speaker 4 (53:06):
Long enough? Brother, My back's hurting.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Okay, So you could watch an instructional take that to
open matt without drilling it, and by the end of
the day, if you were focusing on looking for that
during the open map, you would be able to do
it to blue and purple belts by the end of
the class.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Yeah or name uh.

Speaker 5 (53:28):
I definitely agree. It's like learning music theory versus learning covers.
Like if these guys have the theory and they understand
the concepts, then they're gonna be able to keep up
with what they see and they can learn all the
cover songs that they want. But you know, otherwise, if
you're playing it in an old school way and you're
not a seasoned grappler and problem solver a scientist yourself,
then I think that you're gonna have some trouble with

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some of the you know, through the fire and flames
on expert.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Yeah, well, you know, that's that's a great point. Like
I like that analogy a lot, just because I've been
playing music, so stand that analogy. Like, if you tell
me the chords to what you're playing, Hey, what key
are we in? And tell me the chords. I can
sit there and play with you, but I can't hit
the beats in time until we start playing together, right,

(54:14):
and then well, then the music tightens up and we
start hitting the hard stops, and we start hitting those
offbeat changes and we understand together what's going on. But
that doesn't mean that I can't get out there and
play that song. And if you give me just a
guitar by myself and the chords and the lyrics, I
can reproduce that for you in a in a way
that you would probably enjoy.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Now you mentioned music, I think that music is actually
a really great analogy because there are bands that come
out and they'll have a different sound, and all of
a sudden, that sound will influence, you know, other musicians,
and all of a sudden, that influence alone sometimes gets bands,
you know, record deals. And we see that in Nix
Mortial Arts too, where I remember back in two thousand
and four the Anaconda started taking over Minataranogara hit it

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on noia Ogawa, I believe in pride, And then you know,
we saw Randy Gatuur hit it against Mike van Arsdale
a couple of months later.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
You know, and also too, I think you can.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
See the low calf kick revolution in mixed martial arts.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
You know, somebody hits it.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
I think it was uh Brett Primus and Michael Chandler
had that drop foot syndrome, and then we started seeing
a lot of people, you know, get on that low
calf kick, and you know, that technique. I don't know
if it's necessarily has to be drilled over and over again.
How you're gonna drill that necessarily in the gym without
destroying everyone's legs. But that influence and you know, sort
of changing the mindset of athletes. There is some where

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that guys can improve their games just from visualizing, you
know what the modern sport is implementing.

Speaker 5 (55:45):
I think that the previous era where there was no
YouTube and you were like chastives for watching inst I
guess it was just YouTube content mostly or something on
the dark webs about what Marcello's doing or whatever.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
But now, yeah, those things.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
I got the boss and workout on VHS using it.

Speaker 5 (56:07):
Hey, you were cooking a second and you start dropping
the old school trivia that there's nothing in my heart,
you know, just.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
All of that. Nobody's better at old school. Nobody here
I'll put I'll put TJ against anybody of old school
mm a knowledge anybody.

Speaker 4 (56:25):
Number one, number one.

Speaker 5 (56:28):
But yeah, I think that the the current era where
obviously you come to class and you have to be
like I use the pottery because it's like you gotta
get you gotta get your hands dirty, you gotta be
moving around, you gotta have you you know, have your
hands in the clay, so to speak. And then past that,
like when you're out of class, do please go watch
stuff and study your game and develop your your your style.

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But to say that you're only on YouTube and you're
never in my class, Uh, those are those are both crazy.
To be on polar ends of the spectrum, right there
in the middle with a happy balance, I think is
obviously the move.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
I think it totally depends on the guy's skill set.
Like I think that it's absolutely possible to just show
up to Open Matt and be able to execute what
you learned on instructionals, but your skill set needs to
be very strong. I know I can do it. I
do it all the time.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Yeah, I'll watch it.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
I'll watch an Instagram video on loop three times and
I'll go in and hit it in the gym.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
The last time I trained b MAC was in two
thousand and four, so I've been watching MMA since twenty
one years since then.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
But your skill set was zero. That's like your your
skill set is zero. That's fair, you know, like, that's
not where my skill set is.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
I'm want to know. In the cage dog, I had
a grappling match. I put a guy in renick a choke.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
It was awesome, hul footage.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
Hit that rim shot over there. Say that again, TJ.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
Nope, not going to I'm not gonna subject myself to it.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Hit him anyway, Thank.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
You, Thank you very much. All right, anything else on
the reddit files he want to hit?

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Uh oh, I don't think on the reddit files, but
I want to shout out my boy right here, Steven
Aiken jumping in. Look at that Bobby, both of them.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
I never thought I would ever speak like that on
a broadcast, but every once in a while I'll call
him Bobby, both of them on a PGF broadcast, and
I feel funny doing it, but it just sounds so fun.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
I like the games that we do in the PGF
that's fun to me, Like the dump trunk Randy Roadin,
and so that was before you came along, TJ. So
Randy Roaden got that big legs, big booty, and he
would come out there. We started calling him the dump truck.
And when he would take his stuff off and he
would walk out, he would kick his shoes off and
he would back up onto the mat and the whole

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audience would go, Bee.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
That's kind. You can't just come up with it and
give it to yourself.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
I was messing around with the idea we've been talking
about AI, and I have this AI chat bot that
was created that is MMA centric, and I've asked some questions,
some trivia questions, and it just gives me the worst answers,
this factually incorrect answers. And I thought maybe we would
ask this thing some questions and see if.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
It can get it right.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Can we get it on screen?

Speaker 3 (59:12):
No? But I can read it.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Okay, I guess all right, you gotta we need an
intro to this section, just even even just something corny,
some kind of music or something.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
Give me something, TJ or keeling, there we go, how
about that?

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Okay, that'll work all right?

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Perfect?

Speaker 2 (59:33):
So let's see, Uh, we want to ask you a question?

Speaker 3 (59:38):
Or should I ask us a question?

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Give me the premise one more time. This is an
AI chatbot that you created.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
No, it's on Facebook.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
It's available to anyone on the Facebook messenger after's meta AI.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
Yeah exactly. Okay, So let's ask it a qu Let's
ask it about the PGF.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Oh okay, no, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (59:59):
Do it?

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
All right, I'm just asking it. Tell me about the PGF.
See what it says. It's thinking, it's writing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Okay, I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
You knew Dead Air was bad, so you said, he's
thinking it's the air.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
So here we go. Tell me about the PGF.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
The Professional Fighters League was previously named but closer it's
actually called Professional Fighters League was former named Actual answer
the organization referring to National Fight League.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Stop, all right, ask worst segment ever?

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
Ask it?

Speaker 5 (01:00:34):
Which heavyweight on the UFC's roster would eat a cheeseburger
eating contest?

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
That's what I want to know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
That's actually a great question. Which heavyweight on UFC roster?

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
I think we all know the answer to this one.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
And cheese burger?

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
It's Derek Lewis, dude eating?

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
Oh brother?

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
All right, let's see.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Here that boy Jimmy Crue from down Under. He looks
like he could probably put it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
He could put something down.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
Oh my god, this is great.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Based on their physiques and fighting styles, I'd put my
money on derreck lewis possibly heavy appetite as well. A
second choice would be tied to Ivasa. His aggressive fighting
style might transfer to aggressive eating, and we all know
he can chug from a boot.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
Okay, that was a pretty good answer.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Yeah, that's a pretty good answer.

Speaker 5 (01:01:27):
Now, Conspiracy b Mac is already turned into an AI Botah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
All right, let's have it. Tell me. Tell me about
Brandon mccaffine.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Oh this is I mean, no chance that it knows
who I am.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
It's probably gonna say you're beat Okay, all right, this
is amazing. His actual name is Brandon mccaffrn, but UFC
fans know him as Brandon the American Grizzly mccaffern, Brandon
the Grizzly mccatherine, but everyone knows him based on his

(01:02:05):
resemblance and appetite. He's a heavyweight UFC contender and former
amateur eating champion. Did you know almost did you know
he almost beat Joey Chestnut in practice?

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
Wikia again.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
This is the worst AI in the whole world.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Right, and it's available on a widely distributed platform.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
That's the I mean, that is the worst AI of
all time. That's that's terrible.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
I'm going I bet if you ask the new.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Groc he'll he'll give you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
What's up my buddy Google?

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Listen, Nerd, nerd toime, y'all want y'all want good functional
AIS that actually work. The new Grock is pretty sick.
You gotta be on x premium to get it. The
new Google Gemini Advanced is insane. That one's totally free.
And the new Chat GPT is completely off the charts amazing.

(01:03:01):
The Grizz, I'm the Grizz. Give me the Griz Cam.
We're gonna start calling this the Griz camp. All right,
all right, next section? Are we have more segments? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
Our time is running out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
I want to take a look at the UFC card
that goes down in Seattle this Saturday, headlined by Henry Sujudo.
Uh he is back in action. He takes on uh
songing you dong. To be honest, guys, this is this
is I'm a full disclosure uh UFC my primary employer,
but With that said, I will say one thing that
the UFC doesn't do well at times, and I think no,

(01:03:40):
I think I think it's actually a roundabout backhanded compliment.
They have so much stuff going on that they're not
able to put enough promotional time into some of the
events between the marketing pay per views, and you know,
with this UFC fight night, I didn't realize that Henry
Seuda was fighting until like two weeks ago. And you know,
Henry's a guy, one of the all time greats. You know,

(01:04:01):
you can hate on him for his cringe gimmick, and
that's very much.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
What it is.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
It's a gimmicky, you can do it, but uh, he's
still one of the greatest. You cannot deny what he's
done on the mat, both in wrestling and in the UFC.
And uh, honestly, I don't think that there's as much
hype around Henry fighting a tough guy in You Dong
song or song you Dong, whichever way you like.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Uh, I think I like the dong either way.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
TJ, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
It's it's the shade of green you picked, brother.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
I don't know how dare you It was easy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
It was just low hanging fruit.

Speaker 5 (01:04:38):
Yeah, but this is a pretty I mean, it is
a pretty high level fight, and I mean I've just
I literally just found out yesterday that these two guys
are gonna fight. Definitely seems like they're not putting enough
gas on the on the flame.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
I mean that's the thing too.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Like we talked about an oversaturated market, the UFC is
oversat trading their own market, which I think is great.
There's a quality fight on every single week. Yeah, maybe
one card isn't as good as another card in the
same month, but there's not a UFC card that is
put on where there's not at least one or two

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fights that I'm genuinely intrigued by, and this is definitely
one of them. This main event is a good one,
to say the least.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Okay, come back to the top of that card to
Keelan and let me just walk down this event. This
is a fight night. This is this is an ESPN
Plus subscribers only fight night. Sahuto versus song you Dong
at the top, check out this comin right here, Brendan Allen,
Fluffy Hernandez. That's a banger.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
It's a great fight.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
That's a great fight. Give me Brendan Allen on that
let's let's let's make our picks though as we go down.
So at the top we got Sahudo versus song You Dong?
Who you take in?

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
I got Henry, Yeah, I got I got Henry Shudo
and one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
As well, same so Hudo Kielan. Yeah, I would take
Henry oh unanimous. That surprises me a little bit, but
I agree Brendan Allen, Fluffy Hernandez. Give me Brendan Allen.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Yeah, I'll go Brendon Allen.

Speaker 5 (01:06:15):
Fun fact, I fought Brendan Allen as an amateur, and
this is actually I followed his career, obviously followed his career,
and I believe that this is a rematch for him
from his LFA days. I think that he might have
lost to this guy. I believe if it's if it's
who I think it is.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
And so this is tell me about your fight with
Brendan Allen.

Speaker 5 (01:06:33):
Oh, brother, it's out there on the YouTube. Obviously, I'm
sitting here before you now, so you could probably imagine
that I did not win, but uh man, I would
say that your boy was doing just fine. Brendan Allen
and I have talked about it a couple of times
He claims that it was one of his toughest fights
that he ever had, especially as an amateur. Obviously he's

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fought incredible talent as a UFC fighter. But yeah, man,
that's on YouTube. You can check it out, you know,
you know, check it out. Yeah, naked, naked at the
end of it.

Speaker 6 (01:07:04):
I was looking for highlights for a video for Matt
one time and I watched that fight.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
He Matt was winning, I think, brother, From what I remember.

Speaker 6 (01:07:15):
It looked like Matt was winning and he expected to win.
But then Brendan was still there and like the latter
part of the fight, and it was like, oh, ship,
he's not dead yet.

Speaker 4 (01:07:24):
And I would agree with that.

Speaker 5 (01:07:27):
I would say that, in my opinion, I was saucing
him up just a little bit and then he popped
out on my back and was winning for about nine seconds,
and those were the nine seconds that mattered.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
Brother.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Uh. Here's here's a comment from the chat. Why are
these clowns sitting here in sunglasses?

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
And I'll just say it's because we get paid to
do it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
And I agree, you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Thanks, Yeah, I appreciate that they don't get better if
they weren't wearing glass.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
No it wouldn't do that though, it wouldn't. Let's by
the way you are. Anthony doesn't wear glasses.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
Brandon doesn't wear glasses.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
B Mac does.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
That's all I got to say.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
It's that way.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Well, let me just say, it's like it's a layer,
it's a character. It's more fun.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
There's nothing more frustrating to me when I see you
do that transition right before a show that we're working.
It's just you're like Brett the Hitman heard it drives
you crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Well, I'm fantastic. Bring that card back up to Youlan.
Let's go back down the rest of it, because the
one of my favorite fighters is actually on this card
is third fight is Rob Font Jeane Matsumoto. Give me
Rob Font a big rob Font fan.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Matsumoto undefeated, but I haven't really seen enough of him.
Rob Fon as a proven guy, a little bit long
in the tooth, I think, But uh yeah, my money
being Rob Font.

Speaker 6 (01:08:55):
Lots of Mooto is the favorite.

Speaker 4 (01:08:57):
Bye.

Speaker 6 (01:08:57):
By what what's the line does minus one sixty six
right there?

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
That's that's a pick him fight.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
A lot of people buying the the line if it's
like if it's under minus two hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
That's still pick him fights.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
In my opinion, it's MMA, anything can happen, unless like
you're a three to one favorite. That's when we start
to see an upset if you are an underdog at
plus one fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
I mean that if I could go either way.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
All right, here's here's my one of my favorite fighters
to watch right now. Jean Silva incredible. You guys seen
him yet?

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
No. Matt Elkins, Matt familiar. Matt, give me the Griz cam. Kieling,
give me the Griz cam.

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
Feed me.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Be bad. Oh dude, you're gonna love him. He's exactly
the kind of fighter you love.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
Like, yeah, really, go back to Dover was amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
Okay, he got Drew Dover out of there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Yeah, I got a idea stoppage in the third round.
Dover was a bloody mess.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Dude, and he looked like an ultra g as he
made it happen. Alonzo Minifield, Julius Walker, give me Minifield.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
Yeah, I like Minifield.

Speaker 4 (01:10:15):
I'm unfamiliar with these guys at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Oh my god, you're useless.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Uh My, one of my favorite fighters on this card,
way down the list. But Andre Touchy Pheely. Andre's an
awesome fighter, one of my favorites.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
And dude, it's hard to have a better nickname than
Touchy Feely.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
Oh yeah, so good.

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
Definitely a big fan brother as well.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Uh, Ricky Simone, Yeah, Ricky Simone, I like, keep going,
give me Austin Vanderford back in the mix yep, oh okay, yeah,
I mean it's it's pretty. I would say the Preliums
aren't uh setting the world on fire.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
One of the first fights of the night, though, is
with the guy who I think I love saying his name,
and that's Modesta's Bocaccas. It's hard to say it, but
I like it. Coustus, thank you. That sounds like a
genre of adult film. Leave that alone. Oh my god,

(01:11:23):
he went there, Hey, but I only go there on
this platform.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
That's why. That's why it's worth while.

Speaker 4 (01:11:29):
But the thing is is we were all thinking the
same exact thing, brother, h.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Yeah, I mean you got a boot caucus and your
dong on the same card. That's a tough day at
the office.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
I was doing a uh fighter one time with Pearl
Gonzales and she just could not get over song.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
You don This was not.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Train wrecks crickets.

Speaker 5 (01:11:56):
Yeah, dog versus Bootcacus or whatever you said, isn't that
that's a crazy headliner.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
I think it's about that. Tom guys.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
Yeah at that music keeling and hopefully everyone enjoyed the rounds.
You can check out the archive behind the paywalk on
bmac you two page. We're gonna have the audio up
available on iTunes, Spotify, iHeartRadio, wherever you get your podcasts,
do a search for the Rounds and we'll get you there.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
Anything else you want to hite Bemack on the way out.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
That's it, baby, all right. EGF coming up this summer
season eight. It's gonna be five one hundred and fifty
five pounds.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
I'm excited for Matt Alkins, b Mac, Greda mccatherine, I'm
teg DeSantis. Thanks for putting in some rounds with us
and we'll see you next time